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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Muma MEA's twice daily

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Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie. This week, Queensland has joined New

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Speaker 2: South Wales in making coercive control a criminal offense. But

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Speaker 2: what exactly is it and how far off are we

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Speaker 2: from making it nationwide? Plus, if you've ever found yourself

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Speaker 2: caught in an endless loop of what if questions, trust

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Speaker 2: me you're not alone. Luckily we found a simple five

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Speaker 2: minute method to stop those stress virals in their tracks

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Speaker 2: before we get there. He's Clamurphy with the latest from

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Speaker 2: the Quikie newsroom for Tuesday May twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. Police are wanting those who may seek to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of those hit by floods across New South

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Speaker 1: Wales that they will be caught after two men were

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Speaker 1: arrested for alleged looting. Extra police are on duty across

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Speaker 1: the Hunter and Mid North coast that are now clean

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Speaker 1: up up after last week's floods, with two men aged

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Speaker 1: in possession of stolen property. Deputy Commissioner Peter Thirdle said

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Speaker 1: stealing from people vulnerable during hard times like these is

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Speaker 1: un Australian. The warning comes as military personnel head into

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Speaker 1: cut off by the natural disaster that took five lives.

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Speaker 1: Questions are being raised over Victoria's bail laws after it

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. After the brawl between rival gangs broke out

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Speaker 1: in Northland shopping Center. A twenty year old man was

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Speaker 1: hospitalized with serious head injuries. One of the attackers was

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Speaker 1: pinned to the ground in a citizen's arrest. Two teenagers

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Speaker 1: of the incident. The violence prompted an immediate ban on

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Speaker 1: the sale of machetes longer than twenty centimeters. Possessing the

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Speaker 1: The twenty five year anniversary of an iconic march is

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Speaker 1: as Reconciliation Week kicks off. More than two hundred and

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Speaker 1: YU two thousand Reconciliation Australia CEO Karen Mundine saying it

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Speaker 1: was a great moment to see so many people coming

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Speaker 1: Australia found itself, understanding the past, the triumphs and the setbacks.

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Speaker 1: Reconciliation Week marks the successful nineteen sixty seven referendum and

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Speaker 1: to next, Mundane saying there was still a need for reconciliation,

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Speaker 1: in the ULARU Statement from the Hearts still yet to

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Speaker 1: be dealt with. US President Donald Trump has blasted Russian

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Speaker 1: know what the hell had happened to him. Trump went

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Speaker 1: country singer Dolly Parton has hinted she may be making

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Speaker 1: a special appearance at Beyonce's tour. Beyonce covered Parton's classic

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Speaker 2: Thanks Claire next understanding coercive control. As of yesterday, Queensland

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Speaker 2: The name Hannah's Law draws from the case of Hannah Clark.

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Speaker 2: from monitoring phones and isolating partners from family and friends,

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Speaker 2: to controlling finances and constant humiliation. One survivor shared with

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Speaker 2: Mamma Mia. When she was giving birth, her partner demanded

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Speaker 2: or dangerous. The new laws focus on patterns of behavior

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Speaker 2: always about physical abuse. While New South Wales and Queensland

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Speaker 2: Victoria currently addresses coercive control under its general family violence laws,

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Speaker 2: meaning it doesn't recognize it as a standalone criminal offense. Meantime, Tasmania,

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Speaker 2: one eight hundred RESPECT. That's the National Domestic Family and

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Speaker 2: Sexual Violence Counseling Service on one eight hundred seven three

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Speaker 2: seven seven three to two. Do you ever find yourself

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Speaker 2: caught in that endless loop of what if? Questions? Well,

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Speaker 2: our podcast but Are You Happy? Is back diving straight

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Speaker 2: into all the mental health topics and challenges that we've

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Speaker 2: Heronas share their five minute technique to stop those stress

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Speaker 3: The technique and the strategies that I'm going to give

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Speaker 4: It's really interesting because it can sound really basic, but

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Speaker 3: So once we've stopped, we want to take a moment

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Speaker 3: tell ourselves is actually true. We all engage in unhelpful

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Speaker 3: We do all these sort of thought patterns quite naturally,

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Speaker 4: I really like that moment of pause, and essentially we're

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Speaker 3: So I love the journaling because actually seeing those words

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Speaker 4: So what happens if you're too deep in the spiral

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Speaker 4: and you know the strategies you've just mentioned doesn't actually work.

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Speaker 3: If we're in a state of panic and distress and

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Speaker 3: a physiological level for reregulating our body. So I encourage

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