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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Sees the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 1: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 1: one way. So this is the platforms to hear and

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Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives they adore,

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Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly, The best and worst day

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Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of seizing your yea. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned

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Speaker 1: funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels to co found

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Speaker 1: Matcha Maiden and Matcha Milk Bar. Sees The Ya is

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Speaker 1: a series of conversations on finding a life you love

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Speaker 1: and exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along

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Speaker 1: the way. Lovely yighborhood, Welcome it to our Soul Diaries episode.

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Speaker 1: As you know, Nick and I have just come home

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Speaker 1: from five days in Soul for an incredibly special trip

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Speaker 1: and for Nick's first time ever visiting South Korea. I

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Speaker 1: won't talk too much in the intro as we cover

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Speaker 1: pretty much everything we did in great detail each day,

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Speaker 1: and it's already such a long episode once I put

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Speaker 1: that all together. We haven't actually done a real time

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Speaker 1: diary episode before, but it was so much fun, especially

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Speaker 1: doing it together. So maybe you'll hear more of that,

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Speaker 1: or maybe not totally. Let us know what you think.

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Speaker 1: It's not that often that I can drag Nick onto

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Speaker 1: the show, but he embraced it fully this time, and

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Speaker 1: I laughed so hard listening back to this one. We're

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Speaker 1: also feel like we've revealed far too much about the

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Speaker 1: inner workings of our relationship. But we cover the highlights, surprises,

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Speaker 1: and lessons from each day, from wearing traditional Korean harm

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Speaker 1: books through the streets to Nick's second ever facial treatment

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Speaker 1: from the demilitarized zone at the most armed border in

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Speaker 1: the world, and Nick's journey with rubbish bins and fire hydrants,

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Speaker 1: which will make more sense as you listen. You may

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Speaker 1: know it was extra special for me being my country

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Speaker 1: of birth and we reunited with my foster family during

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Speaker 1: this trip, but we will be covering that in a

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Speaker 1: separate episode. As there have been so many adoption related questions.

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Speaker 1: now and have a lot of new revelations after this trip,

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Speaker 1: so if you've got any new ones yourself, there's still

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Speaker 1: time to send them through and I will record a

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Speaker 1: fresh set of insights about that in a coming episode.

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Speaker 1: A very big thank you at the outset to our

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Speaker 1: jet Star family for getting us there and back safely.

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Speaker 1: As always, they always have the cheapest fairs with all

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Speaker 1: of travel, which makes such a difference. Jet Star flies

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Speaker 1: direct from Sydney to Soul as you guys saw, I

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Speaker 1: was perfect and we'll be commencing direct flights out of

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Speaker 1: Brisbane too from the first of February next year, so

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Speaker 1: hopefully some of you are encouraged to book your trip in.

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Speaker 1: I've had a few dms about people who have been

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Speaker 1: And if you do let me know I can send

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Speaker 1: show notes to the Jet Star Souls so you can

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Speaker 1: Welcome to our first Korea diary. We arrived last night.

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Speaker 1: Nick has never been here before, and this is the

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Speaker 2: Was really chill day.

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Speaker 1: We met up with one of our beautiful friends and

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Speaker 1: ask you, Nikki, what your own expectations were last night, Like,

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I've been to most parts of Asia, like

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Speaker 1: That was one of your first impressions this morning. So

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Speaker 1: There's so much to do, but today was really We

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Speaker 1: The coolest thing about Korean food is that at every meal,

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Speaker 2: So your highlight, your surprise, and your lesson.

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Speaker 3: My highlight was probably probably that lunch or maybe just

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Speaker 1: We were around book Chon, which is the really ancient area.

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Speaker 1: leads me to my surprise for the day, which is

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Speaker 1: that Soul became the capital when this main there's quite

441
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 1: a few palaces, but this main one Gyeongbokung where we

442
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 1: were for the changing of the guards. When that got

443
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: finished being built, Soul became the capital and has remained

444
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 1: since then because of its fun shui being around mountains

445
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 1: and river. So it's surrounded by They're not hills, they're

446
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 1: thirty three mountains and the river has like the best

447
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 1: funk shue for a capital city.

448
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 3: So that's that's isn't punctuey Chinese?

449
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's.

450
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: Still like the principles of its ideal location in nature

451
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,640
Speaker 1: based on like, yeah, the principles of how energy flows

452
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, I was reading. I don't know what

453
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: the green version is, but that's why it was kind

454
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: of chosen as a city.

455
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 2: So that was my surprise.

456
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 3: Interesting well, speaking of funk Shue, my surprise is why

457
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 3: the functue of the industrial design around here and their

458
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 3: architecture doesn't include a rubbish bin because I'm still carrying

459
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 3: my coffee cup in the first day I found one.

460
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 3: I actually found one garbage bin the entire time I

461
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 3: was here, and it's the cleanest place in the world,

462
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 3: and you just there's just no, there's no cabbage bins.

463
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Speaker 1: This is a continuation of your surprise from day one,

464
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 1: which is still the last. All day you were like,

465
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: I still haven't seen one. I still haven't seen one,

466
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: but I've seen so many fire hydrates, Like where are

467
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: the bins?

468
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: It's cut my coffee, Like I usually have two or

469
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 3: three coffees. I've only had one a day because I'd

470
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 3: never get to put the coffee cup down. So it's no,

471
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 3: but it's stunning. It's amazing that you don't need to

472
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 3: like if that, if they had the little amount of

473
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 3: coffee cups like that in Melbourne, where would be stepping

474
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Speaker 3: over rubbish just to walk down straight like it's incredible.

475
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: So speaking of coffee, that is where we wandered to

476
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: after we got out of our Hambucks. I had hired

477
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: mine for the day, so I was ready to wear

478
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 1: it all day. Nick not so much so you know,

479
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: changing back out of them, but you can do by

480
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: the hour higher or full day hire or multi day higher.

481
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: And one of the places where people also where Harmbox,

482
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: is to Bookchon, which is the ancient area where a

483
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: lot of the old Hannocks, which is like the very

484
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: traditional again dating back to the thirteen hundreds, the Harnock.

485
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Speaker 2: Houses are still.

486
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Speaker 1: I think it's the largest population of these houses that

487
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: have still been preserved. And a little while ago there

488
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: was a whole thing about knocking them down and then

489
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: everyone protested.

490
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 2: So it's this.

491
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: Beautifully preserved village where a lot of the old Hannock

492
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: houses are still residential. So like it's a fully tourist

493
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 1: area now and there's all these signs saying please be quiet,

494
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: keep your voices down because we live here. But there

495
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: are also all these little stalls and cafes. There's a

496
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Speaker 1: sulasa in there. That's where we went to the Oslock

497
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: tea house the other day. So we went in search

498
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Speaker 1: of a coffee and to go for a little wander

499
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: in this beautiful area where again there's you walk sort

500
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: of upper hill and there's all these beautiful traditional houses,

501
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: but then you look down the hill and there's the

502
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: city skyscraper skyline.

503
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: It was so beautiful.

504
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's so nice. It was. I Like, I

505
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 3: like it when places retain that culture, Like it's so

506
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 3: easy when you've got a country that has economically grown

507
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: so fast, like thousands of send increase on their GDPA

508
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: over last things, Like you know, I read somewhere it's

509
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: like seventeen hundred percent increase in GDPs And so I've

510
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: been alive in the last forty years. Whoa, I mean,

511
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 3: I think Australia it's like eight hundred in that time

512
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: and we've had a big increase. But like I mean,

513
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 3: think about LG, Samsung, Hyundai, Kia, like that they're all

514
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 3: from this country and look at the growth of those

515
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: brands in last year. So do you think about how

516
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 3: this entire country has gotten to be, Like it's so modern,

517
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: everything's so modern. It's to be able to retain those

518
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: properties and make them still look the way they are

519
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and also allow people to wander residentially.

520
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: Imagine someone in a really nice house in Melbourne and

521
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: you people just wandering through them and taking photos through

522
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 3: like that wouldn't happen, and it's lovely that they allow

523
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 3: it to happen. But it's beautiful and it's just so

524
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: safe here too.

525
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was your surprise, wasn't it? So my surprise?

526
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: I had so many different surprises, but was yeah, about

527
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: the Soul being the capital city, and also like your

528
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: main surprise was the bins, but your other surprise was

529
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: something Jade's partner told you about about safety here.

530
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was like you could leave your laptop just

531
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: sitting on a table and walk off. So he left

532
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: his bag in a park on a bench, and he

533
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: forgot about it, and he went back the next day

534
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 3: and it was still sitting there, like people just won't

535
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: touch it. It's apparently just the crimes for so longs.

536
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: I haven't done my research on the crime stats and

537
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 3: stuff like that, but apparently it's crazy safe here. So

538
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: it's pretty cool. There's no graffiti except for artistic graffiti.

539
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 3: I saw one bit of gre yesterday in it day one,

540
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: and that was the neatest, cleanest bit of graffiti on

541
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: this plain wall. It was like a smiley face and thing.

542
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's probably commissioned. And another funny one

543
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 3: was some of the driving. He is awful. But they

544
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: have their warning lights on, so if you put your

545
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 3: warning lights on here, you can pretty much do anything.

546
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: Like It's like it's like when someone gives you a

547
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: wave and says sorry, and you're like in the car

548
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: and you're so angry and you're like, oh, it's fine.

549
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: Then you said sorry. It's like that with their warning lights,

550
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 3: people just stop and just put their warning lights on.

551
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 3: Everyone just waits and then but if they didn't have

552
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: a warning lights, yeah, I mean it's like it's this

553
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 3: little rule of God, apparently according to the sky I

554
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: was talking to. And it's a funny place.

555
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: It is so interesting, how like how sh meeks some

556
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: other really modern like in book John, there's obviously all

557
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: the old places, but the tea house that we went to,

558
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: which is kind of nestled in among all the old buildings,

559
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: was so modern, like this three story industrial awesome modern place.

560
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: But then at the same time they've retained my favorite

561
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: part of Asian culture, which is all the cutest cartoon

562
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: characters for everything.

563
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: Remember the hippos we saw yesterday.

564
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I want that tattooed on me because

565
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: it's the cutest hippo cartoon I have ever saw.

566
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: The hippo was wearing a handbop.

567
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: It's so cute. Outside the police stations there's these like

568
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: cute happy police in cut little cartoon character.

569
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so sweet.

570
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: But another thing that we tried to do, so we

571
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: had a big day today of ticking off things. So

572
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: we had this beautiful cultural traditional morning and then we

573
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: went in search of a couple of the things that

574
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: were on all the tourist lists. So one of them

575
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: was Onion Cafe, which is again like a really beautiful

576
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 1: ancient architecture but a really modern Melbourne level coffee joint

577
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: and cafe. Inside the que was like two hundred people,

578
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: so we didn't go inside.

579
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: You don't love a q doo No, that was a

580
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: ridiculous cue that was so long. What was it was

581
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: peak time though, on and on a Sunday, so I

582
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: get it. And then we went to that Michelin Star

583
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: dumpling place, and there was a pretty solid Q and

584
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh I I don't like ques at the

585
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: best of time. And we stood in it and moved

586
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: so fast. So if you ever do to go to

587
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: the Michelin Star, if you want to go to that

588
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: dumpling place which is cheap ads and it was really

589
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 3: as beautiful. Yeah, don't don't worry. The Q moves so fast.

590
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: And get the noodle soup no, no, get what was it,

591
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: the one ton soup and the dumplings. Yeah, don't worry

592
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: with the cold ones.

593
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: So we had I'd seen it on a few lists,

594
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: but it was actually a couple of people who sent

595
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: me dms who were like, you have to go to

596
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: kur Ja. There's a few different branches, but the que

597
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,239
Speaker 1: was like down the street and it moved. Yeah, I

598
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: mean like we got seated within five minutes. There's only

599
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: four things on the menu too, are hot to a

600
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: cold probably go with them. Yeah, as you said, the

601
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: hot things. The other two noodle soups that were cold,

602
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: which kind of surprised you.

603
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: They were nice, but the hot ones were way nicer.

604
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: And sets one with the kim cheese that was really hot. Yeah, yeah,

605
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: it was hot.

606
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: There's a lot of kim.

607
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: There a lot of kim cheese and they're different shapes

608
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: and stuff. And I don't not a huge kimchi fan

609
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: in Melbourne, but when I'm in a different place, I'll

610
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 3: try everything. And it's growing on me. It's growing on me.

611
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: We haven't ediblegogi yet.

612
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: I've had it for breakfast every day. I just felt

613
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: like it. I don't know anyway, And then so it

614
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: was a big day, so we did that. We came home,

615
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: had a little rest, we walked. It's really nice. We've

616
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: been walking a lot, which is really lovely. I also

617
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: learned it's the longest metro in the world. It's like

618
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: nine hundred fiftyilometers. We haven't touched it because we've been

619
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: either in cars or walking.

620
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: So we had a little.

621
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: Rest and then we headed back out for nighttime again

622
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: to check out the markets here, which are again a

623
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: huge feature.

624
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: There's Guangjong Guang Jung.

625
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: Been practicing all day.

626
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: There's also Num Damon, there's Dong Daemon. There's a heaps

627
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: of markets that we chose Guangjong on the recommendation of

628
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: our dear local friend Jade.

629
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: And it was a lot. It was awesome, so many smells,

630
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: so much going on.

631
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot going on. But I've been to

632
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: a lot of these markets so that where like a

633
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: lot of them that you'll bitch. Look, they'll cook the

634
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: food in front of you and you're just sitting there,

635
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: which is pretty cool. I probably trust this street food

636
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: more than most. Don't reckon like most, like in Thailand,

637
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: you just know it's that you. Yeah, I mean like

638
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: in a in Thailand's and and different countries. Is great

639
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: for Asian countries, is great for the restaurant food, but

640
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: the street food is pretty much for locals only. And

641
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: this here, I reckon you'd be probably pretty good. I

642
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: really want to try one of those pancakes. I wish

643
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: we got on, but we didn't have time. But it

644
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: was beautiful. It was it was It was just I

645
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: don't know, it's just it's not so in your face,

646
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: like people yelling at you and all that type of

647
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: stuff like some some markets you go to, like food

648
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: and stuff. That was just really really interesting.

649
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: No one really like hustles you like, you know when

650
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: you're going past sometimes in some places and they'll touch

651
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: you and be like come.

652
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: And sit down, Come and sit down.

653
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: They were all just these Most of them were like

654
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: beautiful older Korean ladies cooking what you are sure is

655
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: a family recipe for like the whole you know, generations

656
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: cooking it right in front of you, and people sitting

657
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: on these like little very rudimentary like camping chairs, but

658
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: half locals, half to USA recond or maybe even more locals,

659
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: or just being literally served from the pan. All kinds

660
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: of different street food and it was such an experience.

661
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: And then we went on.

662
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: To Itta One, which is the nightlife. I would say

663
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: it's probably a more international suburb, really cool, lots of

664
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: like amazing boutiques. If you're from Melbourne, it's very like

665
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: Chapel Street versus a Chatty or a Melbourne CBD like boutique.

666
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: Kind of amazing shopfronts, very modern, lots of international food.

667
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 2: For the first time.

668
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: We haven't really seen that many places like that.

669
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there was. It was candle shops and like

670
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: but like well, like a French named clothing store that's

671
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: in a sanserra font with lots of negative space and

672
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: you walk in down there's seven pieces of clothing on

673
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: the rack and they're all nine grand each like stuff

674
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: like that. But that was it was really cool and

675
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: big open but again big open streets clean that one

676
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: we were walking through in the dark, and not one

677
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: second I felt unsafe. It was. That was lovely.

678
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: It's pretty much the we've been told it's like the

679
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: clubbing town where all of the clubs and cool bars are,

680
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: which it's not what we were kind of looking for.

681
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: We just wanted to experience it. But I think because

682
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: we went on Sunday night, it was a little bit

683
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: quieter than it would have been on a Saturday, but

684
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: even still, like there was no like alcohol, you know,

685
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: that alcoholic smell in bar suburbs.

686
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: There just was like it was so pristine.

687
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Have I mentioned the fire hydrants on here?

688
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

689
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 3: So there's a little fire hydrants here. They've got the

690
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: little stands. They look like they've just won a price.

691
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: They look like a little trophy. To show you photo.

692
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: I found another one yesterday. They're so cute. They they've

693
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: got these little stands and I'm just like, oh, well done, buddy.

694
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 2: Every day Nick walk was past one of them.

695
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, good job, buddy, good job, You're doing

696
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: such a good job.

697
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: They're so funny. They've got this little little chunky, little

698
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: fire extinguished in a little stand with like gold riding

699
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: on them. They look like they got Employee of the

700
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: Month underneath or something like that.

701
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't get why the gold pluk doesn't really make

702
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: Nick's gone to find a photo to upload to the

703
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: show notes for your reference.

704
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: Wait, do you see this one?

705
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: They can't see, but it's audio. They're so cute.

706
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: Anyway, while Nick goes and finds that that was our

707
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: gigantic day two. It was absolutely incredible. I'm falling in

708
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: love with the city all over again. As I mentioned,

709
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: last time I was here, I didn't really get to

710
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: do much of this truthy stuff. So doing it together

711
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: kind of for the first time, or for the first

712
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: time I was twelve, has been really special. This morning,

713
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: we got up and we're about to go and.

714
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: Spend some time in Gangnam for I'm so proud. Yes,

715
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: so good.

716
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: We're going to go visit Gangnam, which is a really

717
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: cool shopping district. It's got so much it's really busy.

718
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: It's got that massive library that probably a lot of

719
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: you've seen, as I have on Instagram and TikTok, that

720
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: just has like floor to ceiling, but like multi level,

721
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: Like the ceiling is like goes up multiple levels without

722
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: any What am I saying?

723
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: Do you know what it matter? How would you describe it?

724
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: Goes up multiple level like as in there's not anything.

725
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: The library that has like floor to ceiling book bookshelves,

726
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: but like there's no different flaws like this.

727
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

728
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, the really cool library. Look up really cool

729
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: library and soul. You'll understand. It is the one where

730
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: there's just like.

731
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: They're going to google really cool library and soul.

732
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: That's what I googled, and it brought up co extermel. Anyway,

733
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: so we're going to go explore that. We're going to

734
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: go shopping. We've got facials booked for tonight for the

735
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: you know, Korean skincare side of things. I can't believe

736
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: you're getting a facial.

737
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: One hundred percent believe I'm getting a facial.

738
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: So excited.

739
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: So we'll be back and I will figure out how

740
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: to explain the library better.

741
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: It's a really cool one in Soult.

742
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: Well just look at us, I'm cutting you on.

743
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: Look at really cool library and soul with ceilings that

744
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: like extend ceilings into like ceilings.

745
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: Okay by guys nicky boy, Day three and four we've

746
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: done again.

747
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: We've got me so much into this trip.

748
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: It's been great. I'm about to roll onto the plane though.

749
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: When we do get there, I tell you what I've

750
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: eaten a lot.

751
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: I feel like all we've done is eat, get skincare shop,

752
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: eat gets kids.

753
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 3: Having said that, we've walked a lot, so I mean,

754
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: especially in the DMZ. We walked a lot, didn't we

755
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

756
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: Okay, so we haven't even covered the DMZ. So where

757
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: were we up to last time? We were just about

758
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: on day three to go to Gangnam, and then we

759
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: had our facials that night, and then we had the

760
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: DMZ tour the next morning, and then dinner last night.

761
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: So that's all of day three and all of day four.

762
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: So let's start with Gangnam.

763
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: What did you do then? Oh, we went to the library.

764
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one that you were trying to tell me

765
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: about on Instagram, which I hadn't seen ever in my

766
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: life and now I get wides everywhere. But it was

767
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: pretty awesome, and the best bit about it was I

768
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: hid from you. And let's just up to the top

769
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: watching you look for me and get angry.

770
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: It was pretty funny after I think that's fair. I

771
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: deserved it. After I made you do the Gangnam style

772
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: pose underneath the massive hand So there's a whole statue

773
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: dedicated to Si and Gangam Style outside the mall. And

774
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: I made Nick pose, which you loved, oh.

775
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: So awkwardly, then you do the dance. I'm like, I'm

776
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: not doing the dance. I'll stand there and hold my

777
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: hands in that position, and you've got four seconds of

778
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: me smiling, and then I'm going the resting bitch face

779
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 3: after that.

780
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I had made you wear a handbock all

781
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: day the day before, so to be fair, you've done.

782
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: It very well.

783
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, we did gang them and walked around kind

784
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: of the main shopping street, which is we've been in

785
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: really boutique areas. It's a lot more like big shop

786
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: fronts and like bright colors, lots of Neon, drag Nikkivoid two.

787
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: It's called Coex.

788
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: Mall, and that's like another big, massive shopping center that

789
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: actually has an aquarium in it.

790
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: I don't think we.

791
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: Saw it, but it has a lot of stuff going

792
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: on in there.

793
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: But the main thing is.

794
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: Starfield library, which if you guys are following on socials,

795
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: will have already seen my post about it. If you

796
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: like books or any kind of bookworm, you will have

797
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: definitely seen the viral videos of this, like floor to

798
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: see that huge atrium of just books, Like it's so impractical.

799
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't even know how they get their books down,

800
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: but literally like a hundred levels of books per shelf,

801
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: and it's one of those things that on Instagram you

802
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: think it's never going to be as cool, like it

803
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: couldn't possibly be as cool in real life.

804
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: But I walked in and I was like, it looks

805
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: the same.

806
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really cool. It was really cool. I

807
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: think anything above headheight is for looks. But there were

808
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: some cool books I've never seen before in there because

809
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: I don't read Korean. Now it's in like some like

810
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: English books, Like there's a book there by Colin Firth

811
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like, when's he been writing books? Like and

812
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So it's kind of like surrounded by

813
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: good coffee shops and cake shops and yeah, it was cool.

814
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: There's so many people.

815
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: There, it was packed, but we still managed to time.

816
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: So one of the iconic photos that you get I

817
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: was being such an instagrammer and annoying Nick so much

818
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: is you on the escalators going up alongside one of

819
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: the massive bookshelves, and you have to time it around

820
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: people not getting on to go up or going down

821
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: at the same time so you can be in the

822
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: photo by yourself.

823
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 2: I think I made you wait for.

824
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: Me to go off and down the escalator about how

825
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: many times I don't know, like forty, I don't know.

826
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: But if you miss it, you've got to go all

827
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: the way up top the escalator again, then wait for

828
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: other people that are do it and think all the

829
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: way back down. They're big escalators that go up like

830
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: two sorry flights fly flight.

831
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: So I just yeah, but that was only after I

832
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: filmed you doing it first, and then I waited for

833
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: you to come back down to take my turn, and

834
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: that's when you hit from me. So for like twenty minutes,

835
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: I was like, where's Wally?

836
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 3: But you filmed me for you?

837
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: Well, I just thought you might like a cute picture

838
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: look at this, just.

839
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 3: Like who was doing it for you?

840
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: I was doing it for you. I'd send you the

841
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: video afterwards.

842
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: Anyway, highly recommend a visit, particularly if you're a bookworm.

843
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, one of those really cool things that

844
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: I've never seen anywhere else in the world. Definitely not

845
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: like a Korean cultural thing, but it was.

846
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: It was beautiful.

847
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really cool to say. Actually, like I was

848
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: neither here nor there about it when you were telling

849
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: me about it, but seeing it was pretty pretty cool.

850
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: That's also because I explained it so badly anyway, And

851
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: then ceilings above ceilings. So definitely recommend a walk around

852
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: Gangnam as well. It's such a cool suburb and there's

853
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: just like all the different areas here are so diverse

854
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: and we love We've loved them all for different reasons.

855
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's like such a quintessential Korean

856
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: area and there's so much capop around the place. There's

857
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: also a like k pop idle alley there, which we

858
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: didn't go to see, but there's like little statues of

859
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: all the K pop stars, which is another big feature

860
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: around there. But anyway, because we had a bit of

861
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: a later start, we kind of had had a huge

862
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: weekend and did a little bit of work on this

863
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: particular day, we came back to the hotel and chilled

864
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: out a bit before going.

865
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: To get out. Facial I dragg.

866
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: Nikki boylong to get his second ever face because you

867
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: can't come to sell and not get some kind of

868
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: skincare treatment. And you are I'm sorry, glowing, glowing tell

869
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: us about your second ever facial experience.

870
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: So let me tell you this. I don't understand. That's

871
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 3: why they made me take my underpants off and put

872
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 3: fake underpants on and light it. It's a facial like

873
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: I get like minded take my shirt off because they

874
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: massage your shoulders and arms and they don't want to

875
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: get stuff on it. I get why you can't wear

876
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 3: long pants and socks because you got that little foot

877
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 3: bath at the start.

878
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted you to go into the detail

879
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: of your skin and the procedure. But first they take

880
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: you into the room and you change into your little

881
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: robes and you get the disposable little undies. And it

882
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: was so cute because I got disposable girl undies and

883
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: Nick got disposable box of shots.

884
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: That was so cute.

885
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: You first, you don't know I had to wear them.

886
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: Couldn't I slept minder pants on?

887
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: You could?

888
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

889
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: Is that your surprise for day three?

890
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeh, I've got another one for that start off with

891
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: little foot scrub bath thing, then a whole routine.

892
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: Of I'm so excited to hear you try and describe

893
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: what the steps are without knowing what they're called.

894
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: Well, it was a cleanse, then a deep cleanse, then exfoliating,

895
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 3: and then there was a tona I think wasn't No

896
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: tona was after the cleans, wasn't it anyway? And then

897
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: they put the rubber mask on me. That sounded like

898
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: a gimp mask.

899
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: But it wasn't.

900
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: The one that they paint. So they put this like

901
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: a thick moisture mask, then a net, and then this

902
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: really thick mask on top that they put on as

903
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: liquid like cream or gel, and it like hardens into

904
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: rubber that then you peel off all in one go.

905
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 3: So and then in between it all, when they're waiting

906
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: for all of the active ingredients to do their thing,

907
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 3: they're giving me a massage. But yeah, I skin felt

908
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 3: great afterwards. It was about nine pm at night, because

909
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: do you want to put sunscreen on? I'm like, on panicked,

910
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: I'm like yeah, sure, and I'm sure. Tod been like,

911
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: what the what the fuck do you want sunscreen on?

912
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: It's nine o'clock at night and you just get what

913
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: are you doing? And I'm like and afterwards like, why

914
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 3: did you say yes? Why do you ask me? It

915
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 3: was nine o'clock.

916
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, but your skin looked at both of

917
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: our skin, like, I don't think. I haven't had a

918
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: phasial in a while. We've been on planes, we've been

919
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: like out and about and you literally your paws disappeared.

920
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: Do you find it relaxing?

921
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, but my tensions, like I was just thinking things

922
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: I had to do. So but course nice, it was nice.

923
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: The massage was really nice as well, and yeah, it

924
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 3: was good.

925
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed. And so after that we then felt

926
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: pushed to we're staying in Yongdong, which is where all

927
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: of the skincare outlets are. We felt pressed to make

928
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: the most of the amazing deals. So we have so

929
00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: many masks in our suitcase, which is amazing. But I

930
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: bet a hottail list along a little bit because we've

931
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: been rambling. So Day four was the DMZ, which was

932
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: something I wasn't sure I was allowed to do because

933
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: there's a bit of a confusion around my passport. So

934
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: I have a passport, of course I have an Australian citizenship,

935
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: but there's one document that we can't find anyway. It's

936
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: very technical. But for a while I didn't know if

937
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: I was allowed to go there, so Nick was going

938
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: to go by himself.

939
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: In the end we just.

940
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: Booked it and thought we'll figure it out. Surely my

941
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: Australian past what would be enough, which it.

942
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: Was, and it was.

943
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: It was a half day, it was probably three quarters

944
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: of a day. It was a big It's an hour

945
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: out of Soul and there's a lot of waiting, a

946
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: lot of like logistics between sites. But it was one

947
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: of the most interesting things I think I've ever done.

948
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: So if you guys aren't to where the DMZ is

949
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: the zone between South and North Korea which was separated

950
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: at the end of World War two. So on either

951
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: side of the official border, there's a buffer zone of

952
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: two kilometers on each side, so about four kilometers wide,

953
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: and it's about two hundred and fifty kilometers long where

954
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: no weapons or military forces can be used beyond that zone.

955
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: It is the most heavily militarized border in the world,

956
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: and there are actually still millions of land mines within

957
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: the border itself as well, but technically it is meant

958
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: to have no military activity in that four kilometers. It's

959
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: such a fascinating place to visit and I've been wanting

960
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: to go for years.

961
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: It's very interesting. You've got to do it in a

962
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: tour one. I think you have to to go in there,

963
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: but also just for them to explain it to you.

964
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 3: And the tunnels is what's interesting. So after the war

965
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: they found tunnels in I think the sixties, seventies and nineties,

966
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: and they go for kilometers underneath the DMZ. Now we

967
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 3: went into the third tunnel, and we're talking big tunnels.

968
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: The fourth tunnel is three meters by three meters. It

969
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: was like that could have brought artillery and troops through it.

970
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: They're all engineer. They're not like some little molehill. They're

971
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: like blasted through rock. And I think the fourth tunnel

972
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: was concrete reinforced along the way. And they found this

973
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 3: tunnel because someone told them about it. Effect they told

974
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: them about it, and so they put a whole bunch

975
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: of PVC pipes in the ground, filled them with water,

976
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: and then once they're blowing up the dynamite along the way,

977
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: they'd see the water shoot up in the air, and

978
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 3: that's when they knew where it was. So it was

979
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: pretty incredible. So we went down into the third tunnel. Now,

980
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: unfortunately we couldn't get any footage or photos because it's

981
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: you know, i'd take bones or cameras in there. But

982
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: we donned a hard hat and went three hundred and

983
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: fifty meters down a ramp which took a seventy three

984
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: meters underground, and we went through this very narrow, tiny

985
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 3: tunnel for another two hundred meters and they were actually

986
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: around two hundred meters then or one hundred and something

987
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: meters from the North Korean border underground boom, So it

988
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: was pretty wild. What I found great was it wasn't

989
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: the whole area wasn't about war with North Korea. It

990
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: wasn't about we hate North Korea. It wasn't about like

991
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: anti Kim Jong un or anything like that. It was

992
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: about we want to be unified with our all of

993
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: Korea unified. Because essentially they just drew a line through

994
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: the center of it on one day nineteen forty eight,

995
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: and if you were out going for a hike or

996
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: something like that, you were just stuck on the other

997
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: side of the line essentially. So it was definitely worth

998
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: going to. It was not what I expected, it's not

999
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: like we've been to some interesting areas in our travels.

1000
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: Like I think it was one of those one of

1001
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: those things where you have no idea what it's going

1002
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: to be like, but you sort of think I'd rather

1003
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: go and have said I've seen it and learn something.

1004
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: But we were quite blown away by how much we learned.

1005
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: And I think the crazy thing, like you said, Nick,

1006
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: was that I hadn't understood this either that on one

1007
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: day they truly drew a line and if you were

1008
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: on either side of the board at shopping or at

1009
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: the gym or whatever. I mean, not at the gym

1010
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: probably back then, but whatever side you was like on

1011
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: that day, you never got to go back over. You

1012
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: cannot North Koreans can't cross into South Korea, and vice versa.

1013
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: You could not see your family ever again. And so

1014
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 1: I found it fascinating that for five thousand years, Korea

1015
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: was one country, like ancient history, it's been one country,

1016
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: and they've only been separate countries for like seventy five years,

1017
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: but in that time, it's not only been shut off

1018
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: from the entire world. So then I of course spent

1019
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: the entire afternoon watching reunion videos on the one day

1020
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: per year that they allow certain families in a ballot

1021
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: to reunite, but that there's become over time, so they've

1022
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: gone from the exact same nationality, the same language, so

1023
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: the same people, but just a random arbitrary line to

1024
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: now seventy five years later there is a forty times

1025
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: difference in the GDP of the two countries.

1026
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: Blows my mind. I learned so much.

1027
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: But what is also amazing about the desert About the DMZs,

1028
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: you can see the tunnels. They actually built it for

1029
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: tourists to be able to look at it. But there's

1030
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: also an observatory where which we found fascinating, where you

1031
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: can see the South Korean flag on a pole on

1032
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: one side and the North Korean flag on a slightly

1033
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: higher pole. They had a pole competition literally meters apart

1034
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: from each.

1035
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: Other, poles apart from literally.

1036
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: Poles apart from each other. And then there's all these

1037
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: binoculars on the South Korean side where you can see

1038
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: the nearest town and people on bikes walking around doing

1039
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: their life. I mean, one of the towns is a

1040
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: propaganda town. It was built by North Korea literally just

1041
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: for display. But there are other parts of that area

1042
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: where like you saw, we saw people.

1043
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was It was just strange, like just

1044
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 3: to know that the juxtaposition between the two countries, I mean,

1045
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 3: South Korea is GDP higher than Australia's like a North

1046
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: Korea is extreme poverty. So really that guy was the

1047
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 3: guy on plowing the field was Ko And it's just

1048
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 3: such a big change. And you talk about that whole

1049
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: North Korea South Korea thing. I mean, the founder of

1050
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: Hyuende he's an incredible story. Wikipedia the hell out of

1051
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: this blown. He was in North Korean and just before separated,

1052
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: he pinched a cow of his dad, sold it boord

1053
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: a train ticket to go a bus ticket or ticket

1054
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: or whatever to go just down south and got a

1055
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: job and started working. Then it got separated, and all

1056
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 3: his families north. He's always lived North, all that type

1057
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: of stuff and anyway, so he had this incredible life.

1058
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: You should look him up on wikipedi if you get

1059
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: a chance. And he just could never go back home.

1060
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: And he's the one that started this program where you

1061
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: could actually go and visit North Korea for a bit,

1062
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 3: which lasted for like five or six years. He also

1063
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 3: sent back one thousand and one cows because of the

1064
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: cow he stole off his dad back to his village

1065
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 3: as penance, and he put I think like ten in

1066
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: a high Undai truck and sent them on behind their

1067
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: trucks across the Unification bridge that they build, and he

1068
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 3: gave them all the cars as well, so they had

1069
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: some transport, and he donated lots of money back to

1070
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: North Korea for humanitarian purposes. But just thinking, like I mean,

1071
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 3: and a friend of ours that we were here with,

1072
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: like her some one of her I think her grandmother

1073
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: she was saying, was from North Korea, and she's had

1074
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 3: no family in South like just just none of her family,

1075
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: and she doesn't know anything about the family. So it's

1076
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: quite interesting.

1077
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: It was also fascinating to see that because North Koreans

1078
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: don't really have access to the internet, their media is

1079
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 1: very controlled by the state. It's so interesting to sit

1080
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: like we learned a lot about their laws as well,

1081
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: and like how controlled. So you know, we went down

1082
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: a wormhole of course of looking at North Koreans who

1083
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: had escaped, and there's a few who are quite well

1084
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: known that they didn't know there were countries outside of

1085
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: North Korea. They literally had no idea and they are

1086
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: not allowed. If the newspaper has a picture of one

1087
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: of the leaders on the front, they're not allowed to

1088
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: fold the paper across the photo, or you can go

1089
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: to jail.

1090
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: You can't fold money because it's got the leader's face

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Speaker 3: on it. And when you do finish reading a newspaper,

1092
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 3: you can't throw it out. You have to leave it

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00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 3: flat somewhere so it's not folded, and have someone who's

1094
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: authorized to dispose of it. And you can't take a photo.

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00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: Was it? You can't take a photo of a statue

1096
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: unless you get the entire leader in the statue in

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00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 3: the insert in the photo.

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Speaker 1: Which fascinated me so much, like to understand that there's

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00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: a country that's literally next all we could see it

1100
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: and it was just so ideologically different, like it was

1101
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: what I think, coming back to the whole highlights, surprises

1102
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: and lessons, all of my highlights, surprises and lessons were

1103
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: the DMZ from the last two days.

1104
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 3: All my cameras have prime lenses on them. I don't

1105
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: know how I'd not crop them. I'd have to run

1106
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: across the road.

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00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: What were your highlights, surprises and learnings from the last

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Speaker 1: two days.

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00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: I've found a bin which was a good chance not

1110
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: carrying the coffee cups in it. No, their highlights was

1111
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: was definitely the facial and the DMZ were like two

1112
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: things that I was actually looking forward to in your

1113
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 3: facial ape here because obviously one of my businesses is

1114
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: a beauty company, and we have investors in a large

1115
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: company in Korea as an investor, and Korean beauty is

1116
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: the epitome of beauty, especially now, So that was great.

1117
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 3: And the DMZ I find things like that so interesting.

1118
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 3: Sounds great now a big surprise for me. Now, this

1119
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: is along this whole why they're new trash can sting

1120
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: is why to Koreans have coffee so late, Like you

1121
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 3: go past a Starbucks or a boutique coffee shop or

1122
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 3: something like a twosome place it is and it's absolutely

1123
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: heaving at ten o'clock. I'm like, stop drinking coffee at

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00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 3: ten o'clock. But that's why. That's why it's a vibe

1125
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 3: at night in career and no one can sleep because

1126
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: they're buzzing off their head on caffeine.

1127
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: But they don't open until eleven am, which is so weird.

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00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 3: It's it's bizarre for me, Like I'm like, what someone's

1129
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 3: why are you having a double espresso. It's eleven o'clock,

1130
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 3: go to bed.

1131
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also have a cama mile tea and a

1132
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: lie down, a lie down, a lie hyphen down. I

1133
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: can see that the cultural significance of Korea has gone

1134
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: over Nikki Boy's head and all his highlights are related

1135
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: to bins and coffee behaviors over here.

1136
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the fire hydrants and the little stands. No.

1137
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: I definitely think the DMZ was something that we did

1138
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: amina a little bit about because it's out of Soeul.

1139
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: There are a lot of different tours and it's sort

1140
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: of hard to understand to choose what's the right thing

1141
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: and which parts of it. But we can include links

1142
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: in the show notes if anyone's interested, because I highly

1143
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: highly recommend it to understand the history of the two

1144
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: regions and the significance of the fact that. Yeah, I

1145
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: just think we really learned a lot that we wouldn't

1146
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: have learned from any other experience here.

1147
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 3: And there's two words that make there's not two words

1148
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: make me shut out more than anything in the world,

1149
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: and that's bus tour, right, Like, honestly, tour groups alone sometimes,

1150
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 3: but bus tour was not up there with things I

1151
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 3: wanted to do in my late thirties, but it was

1152
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 3: very painful. It was great that was a really comfy bus,

1153
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: and the fact that you even if you can do

1154
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 3: a private one, but it's like seven hundred bucks versus

1155
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: like seventy bucks and you still have to get on

1156
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: another bus anyway, and so it's not really much point.

1157
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: I don't think so I would definitely Sarah's going to

1158
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: give the show notes stuff. But the people we went

1159
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: with were great, and yeah, I definitely recommend it.

1160
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had an amazing guide as well, who was

1161
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: so knowledgeable and shared so much. So yeah, I'll popplink

1162
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: to everything we did really in the show notes, but

1163
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: I highly recommend the DMZ.

1164
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 2: I can't even remember what we did after that. We

1165
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: were pretty cooked. We walked around, we went to go

1166
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: get dinner, traditional Korean dinner, and we ended up eating

1167
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: at dntai Form, which was Taiwanese dumplings.

1168
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: Since what do we had last night's pizza and dumplings?

1169
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: Our food during the day has been very Korean but

1170
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 3: at night somehow, but I've had some street food at

1171
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: night as well, like my potato and they called it

1172
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: a tornado.

1173
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 2: Potato potato nado.

1174
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: Stop it. That was so good.

1175
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 2: Potato Nato, potato tornado. Okay, well that was day three

1176
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: and four.

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00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: I'm also going to put together a highlight video of

1178
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: everything in a more concise order than this dear diary

1179
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,479
Speaker 1: that has become quite chaotic. But tomorrow I am taking

1180
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: Nick back to the orphanage where we were from and

1181
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: where our adoption took place, and where meeting well, he's

1182
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: meeting my foster mother and foster father for the first time.

1183
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: I'm seeing my foster mother for the first time since

1184
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, and I haven't seen my foster

1185
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: father since I was born, really, so that will be

1186
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: really really special and probably an episode in itself, so we.

1187
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: Will be back. I know myself too well.

1188
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: That last day was definitely worth an episode in itself,

1189
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: and I've since uploaded both the full chronological itinery to

1190
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: social media few guys as a list, as well as

1191
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: all the photos from reuniting with my foster parents. It

1192
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: was such an incredibly special day, and I just I

1193
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: can't still explain all the emotions that burst forth interestingly

1194
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: in a way that have never before, even though I've

1195
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: met them before. And have had all my life to

1196
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: reflect on what it means. It seems says quite a

1197
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: lot of separate questions about our adoption, as I mentioned,

1198
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: which come up every now and then, so I might

1199
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: do a fresh, separate episode on that, as our diaries

1200
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: have already ended up taking up nearly an hour. The

1201
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: only thing I would add as a last note was

1202
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: that much like Melbourne, solely somewhere that has a few

1203
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: must dos on the hit list, but my favorite part

1204
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: was really just exploring the different areas and wandering lesslie

1205
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: to soak it all in. So on that last day

1206
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: we headed back to it On, but during the daytime

1207
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: we then kept walking onto Hannam, which we hadn't explored before,

1208
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: not to see anything in particular, but just to experience

1209
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: yet another completely different area. They were both so cool

1210
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: to walk around, with modern cafes and boutiques and bakeries

1211
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: hidden behind normal booking traditional street frontages. The only Tartan

1212
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: bakery outside of La is in Hannam, and a lot

1213
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: of K pop stars live in that area apparently, so

1214
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: we loved spending our last afternoon just roaming those streets.

1215
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: As I said, a more list based itineries up on

1216
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: Socials and I'll pop the link to that in the

1217
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: show notes and if you have any more questions, I'm

1218
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: so passionate about you all visiting Soul. It's such an

1219
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: amazing city. I hope you all enjoyed having Nikki Boy

1220
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: back on the show. It was so much fun listening back.

1221
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: I rarely hear us recorded in our completely natural habitat,

1222
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: and this was such a funny insight into us traveling.

1223
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: It's actually our fourth wedding anniversary as I record this,

1224
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: so we would you for a Davidson or a Yaevidson

1225
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: episode anyway, keep the dms coming and I'll answer as

1226
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: best I can. And if you are considering a trip,

1227
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: Jetstar flights direct from Sydney to Seoul and will be

1228
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: commencing direct flights out of Brisbane iiO from the first

1229
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: of February twenty twenty four. Jetstar always has the cheapest

1230
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: fares and as you know, we travel with them regularly

1231
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: because you can tailor your inclusion so that you only

1232
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: pay for what you want or need for a particular

1233
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: trip and can save the rest to spend at your destination.

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00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: So grateful to our jet Star family for getting us

1235
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: there and back safely as always

1236
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: And in the meantime, I hope you're seizing your ya