1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Whoever said orange is a new pink, but seriously. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: Disturbed Laurels for spraying groundbreaking. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you have. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: To do it. 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: You live for fashion. 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Tamorrow 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Holland I'm Mamma MIA's fashion editor. 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 3: And I only send to Picket trend forecaster and content creator. 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: Each week we talk all things fashion, whether it's helping 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: you decide what is and isn't worth adding to your wardrobe, 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: or maybe it's just helping you figure out how to 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: make the most out of the clothes you're already own. 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 3: Hello teh, Hello. 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: My friend, you're giving kind of like a Grandpa Core 16 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: aesthetic today. I'm loving this fit. Take me through it. 17 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: That's literally what I was going for. Grandpa vibes, Grandpa Core. 18 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. I woke up this morning sort of 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: feeling this vibe and ran with it. So I've just 20 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: got some Dad loafers on my husband's green socks. 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: You the execution of the loafers is perfect. I'm really 22 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: struggling with loafers right now, so I need someone to 23 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: help me. 24 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: And warmers well with this cold weather. Yeah, speaking my feetus, 25 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: not me. 26 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: Still in thongs. I'm holding on. 27 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,279 Speaker 3: But I've just got some baggy sube jeans on brown belt. 28 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: This is sub as well. Actually it's a tank top. Yeah, 29 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: a little Cardi green party, but yeah, going for the 30 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: whole Grandpa vibe. Look, I suppose tell me about you 31 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: tell me about this jacket. I'm really loving it. 32 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm wearing like a leather jacket that I've buttoned up 33 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: as essentially as a top with some with some baggy 34 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: gray black jeans. But the top is actually it's borrowed 35 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: from my mother's closet. Yes, thanks mum. 36 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: And what color would you call that? 37 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: Fawn? Mushroom love, mushroomy fawn. So what are we talking 38 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: about today? 39 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: So today we're tackling the big questions. We're going to 40 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: sink our teeth into some really interesting topics. Firstly, we're 41 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: looking at the death of logo mania, very dramatic. We're 42 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: also looking at is looking expensive starting to look cheap? Indeed, 43 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 3: also the rise of the borecore movement. What that is 44 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: and how does it affect our style? 45 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: That's right, and if you're anything like us, you've been 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: struggling to find jenes for the season. Aheads. So in 47 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: bougie to budget, I've got three pairs of denim that 48 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm loving, but they have a little twist. Yeah, so 49 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: stay tuned for that awesome. 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: Can't wait? All right, Well, Tam, I would love to 51 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: hear what's been going on in your fashion orbit, your world. 52 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: What have you been seeing? 53 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: All the luxury brands are collaborating with other shoe brands 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: that we know and love, so making them slightly more accessible. 55 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: So just don't yeah, I know, right, like a little 56 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: bit more affordable. So a couple that I want to 57 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: list off this is everywhere on my feet right now. 58 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I'm seeing so many 59 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: so I want to name drop a few. The first 60 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: one that just went gangbusters Isabelle Morn with Havianas. Did 61 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: you see this? 62 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: I haven't. 63 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: It was like blink in your misst So they're sold out. 64 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I think there's like maybe some 65 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: select sizes available. Pretty much sold out. They sold through 66 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: really quickly. When I last looked, there was like one 67 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: size available and I almost bought a pair for myself, 68 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: and then I just hesitated at the price. I'm going 69 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: to tell you why, So let me just break it down. 70 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: So Havianas revealed a collab with the French luxury fashion 71 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: house known for its sort of boho aesthetic, Isabelle Morn 72 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: and they had these Tai Die print rubber thongs, so 73 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: your traditional Havianas just with a little Isabelle Morn inspired twist. 74 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: There are one hundred and sixty eight dollars, so that's 75 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: where I kind of go, Okay, yeah, it's really cool. 76 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: I love Isabelle Moran, but one hundred and sixty eight 77 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: dollars is a lot for a Haviana's, okay, So I 78 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: couldn't quite pull the pin there. But they also did 79 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: a really great style that was a bit more elevated. 80 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: It was like a puffy leather strap with embellishment again 81 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: on that rubber thong, and those sold through really fast. 82 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: So super cool. I think we're going to see more 83 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: flip flops. Obviously, that's the you know, it's the American 84 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: in eurosummer right now. So to that end, we also 85 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: have seen Ghani, the Danish scandy brand like first word 86 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: in scandy cool. They have collaborated with Melissa, which is 87 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: known for its rubber foot. It's kind of iconic in 88 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: that space. And they've done another thong collab, but this 89 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: is jelly kitten heel thongs as well as just flip flops, 90 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: and they have this signature rooshed jelly strap which is 91 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: really cute. And we're talking like two hundred and sixty 92 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: dollars for thong heels, which you know, and it's a 93 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: fairly accessible price. 94 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: You do sort of go, oh, that's not too bad, 95 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: but then you do remember it is just a rubber thong. 96 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: Correct, But then I mean Christopher Esba, one of the 97 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: biggest you know, Australian designers, has a cult rubber shoe, 98 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: a flip flop that's somewhere in the realm of like 99 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: several hundred dollars. People are buying that shoe. So I 100 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: suppose that's the price point that you pay for a 101 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: luxury rubber thong these days. 102 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: The first two brands that you mentioned, Haviana's did twenty 103 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: twenty four collaboration with Dolchin Kobana. Did you see those 104 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: I did. 105 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: They were very dult cha. 106 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 3: And the leopard print, the zebra, the embezzlements and whatnot. 107 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: They're still. 108 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Bepp Yeah, so they're still doing it. 109 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: They're still doing it? Is it? Fel Maura? They also 110 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: parted with Converts. Have you seen those? I did? Yeah, 111 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: and you think I really wanted to get something. I 112 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 3: think the price point was about six hundred Yeah, but 113 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: I just can't. 114 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: I love. Yeah. 115 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: I like that they're bringing them to Australia because famously 116 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: Haviana's in the past, they haven't stopped these collabs here, 117 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: so it's great that we got an option to shop them. 118 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: The last one I want to name drop here is J. 119 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: W Anderson with the Italian heritage sports where brand Diadora. 120 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: So they've done a range of colored Swede sneakers. 121 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: With the J. 122 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: W Anderson logo and lasers. They're really cute. They are 123 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: so so cool. They're seven hundred and sixty dollars and 124 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: they've almost sold it. 125 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: They look amazing. It's like the evolution of the new 126 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: new New Balance, don't you think, Yes, very similar version 127 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: of that. Yeah, those awesome. Well, speaking of shoes, have 128 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 3: you noticed that there's just so many weird, freaky shoes 129 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: out at the moment, big time, big time, right freaky shoes. 130 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: There's Mandy Lee, She's a fashion commentator on TikTok. Do 131 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: you follow her? 132 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: She's not on TikTok. 133 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: I know she sort of started coining it freaky shoes, 134 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: but they seem to be everywhere and I can't not 135 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 3: firstly mention the Chanelle cruise collection. Did you see these shoes? 136 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: Of course these went so immediately viral And. 137 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: If anyone's listening, what's a cruise collection? It's interchangeable with 138 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: the word resort. So in the States they like to 139 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: call the resort collection cruise I suppose because people go 140 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 3: on cruises in summer. 141 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: And people who can afford these kinds of clothes would 142 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: be the type to go on yachts. 143 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I. 144 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: Don't know is that a stretch? 145 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: So Chanelle had their cruise collection a couple of weeks ago. 146 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: It was in Beirits from It's incredible, but they had 147 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: these shoes about Terblazi's doing some amazing things with the brand. 148 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: But these I don't know barely their shoes. It's basically 149 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: a heel cup that just covers the heel. There's nothing 150 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: on the front of the shoe. Vogue actually said a 151 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: really funny comment. They said, it's basically a shoe that's 152 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: been circled size because there's just no front end of 153 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: the show. 154 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about like the practical end use 155 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: of this shoe, and I'm like, I guess if you 156 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: were on a yacht, you could pat around on the 157 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: yacht without scuffing the I don't know you go on 158 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: yachts sometimes, would you wear this shoe? 159 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: Well, I was like, are they actually going to create 160 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: the shoe? Was it just for the runway? But they will, 161 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: they will. 162 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: Oh they will. People will buy this shoe and they're 163 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: the kind of people that don't need to think about 164 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: really where they're I mean, I guess if you're like 165 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: at a fancy beach club in the south of France 166 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: or something, and you're just walking around on the sand's going. 167 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: From a vio to the restaurant, walking across. 168 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: The You're not on the road. You're not getting a 169 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: cab like this is. This is purely fantasy. 170 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: And that's so that's luxury fashion. Brown Channel. We've seen 171 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: Loaba their balloon shoes twenty four with Jonathan Anderson. The 172 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: Rain has creative director, but he had this obsession with balloons. 173 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: He made a black sort of kid clothes Toelick Kitt 174 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: and Hill, and it was almost like the heel was 175 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: made from a balloon that you were sort of stiffed, 176 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: so it looks squashed as you. 177 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: Were a deflated balloon. I would almost say that he 178 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: is like the instigator of this trend, like I feel 179 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: like before that obviously that we've seen other designers play 180 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: in this territory before, but he really made it mainstream. 181 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: Now other designers are really doing this on a more 182 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 1: commercial level. 183 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: So true, and we're. 184 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Seeing it infiltrate in Australian brands are experimenting with this 185 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: at the moment. Brands like Alias may have done fluffy shoes, 186 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: and Miller and Mark done Yes shoes. Yeah. 187 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: I love low wav Is shoes. They are so experimental. 188 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: I have to mention there was one. Did you see 189 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: one of his shoes where it was covered in just 190 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: deflated balloons? I did, And everyone's just because they're so expensive, 191 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 3: like two thousand dollars. People just recreating their own with 192 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: a hot gun on TikTok and I look almost the same. 193 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: Love that. Why not get crafty? 194 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: I just also want to quickly mention did you see 195 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: the Diesel and Tinder collaborations speaking at colabs, No We've 196 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: been talking about like fashion brand versus fashion brand collaborating, 197 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: but this is interesting where it's a fashion denim brand, 198 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: Diesel partnering with the dating app Tinder to create a 199 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: limited edition seventeen piece collection. They're expanding outside of denim. 200 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: It's not just denim. They're doing some intimates as well. Okay, 201 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: and it's just an interesting side of the times. I suppose. 202 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: The creative director at Diesel mentioned that working with Tinder 203 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: reflects a shared attitude, no rules, no fixed definitions, just 204 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 3: the freedom to connect on your own terms. And I 205 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: kind of think that's a little bit waffly. I love 206 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: brand collads. You know, you can get a lot out 207 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: of them. You get access and exposure to another brand's 208 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: database and customer. Is it just that Diesel needed to 209 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: get bankrolled and a tech brand was there. 210 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: It's interesting. Glenn Martin's who's the creative director of Diesel, 211 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: is also heading up Marjella, So he's one of the 212 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: most interesting names working in fashion at the moment, and 213 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: he's kind of revered as bringing Diesel back into currency moment, 214 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: like making Diesel cool again. And I've actually been watching 215 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: someone who you know, watches all the runway shows every 216 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: season is very invested in what's happening on the runway. 217 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: Diesel is one of the most interesting shows at the moment, 218 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: as well as marj Ella. So I'm really into what 219 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: Diesel is doing and I hadn't seen this, so I 220 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: think it makes a lot of sense for the brand 221 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: to be backing Pride and that's kind of the Yeah, 222 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: that's boundaries as well. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Awesome, 223 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah to some sad news now rip to Emily and 224 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: PARI did you see this? 225 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: Okay? I would love to warn with you, dam but 226 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 3: I have to be honest with you. I have never 227 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: watched an episode of Emily. 228 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. 229 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: I feel that was to say that on Mike, But yeah. 230 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so what you're telling me is you've never watched 231 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: an episode of the Netflix show Emily in Paris in 232 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: five seasons. No, this is disappointing. I've watched sure the 233 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: Drive to Survive though. Yeah, no, that doesn't surprise me. Okay, 234 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: that's yeah, all right. 235 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: I like some of the cool fashions. 236 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So the reason I love Emily in Paris 237 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: is it's such a fun, escapist fashion watch. Like initially 238 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: it was Patricia Field working on the costuming, which was 239 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: just like a moth to a flame for me. Famously, 240 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: she did Sex and the City the costuming, and yeah, 241 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: a different designer took over in the latter seasons, but 242 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: it kept that same amazing costuming aesthetic all the way 243 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: through the show, and it's just that fantasy watch. It's 244 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: been so much fun. Every season I've recapped the fashion 245 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram and my audience has been like right there 246 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: with me, like, whoa, this stuff's easy. Oh my god, 247 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to miss it so much. I can't believe 248 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: this is the end, Like I would happily watch seventeen 249 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: more seasons of this show. 250 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: Have you ever tried to recreate some of the outfits 251 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: that you've seen on the show. 252 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: No, No, because that would be insane. I mean, if 253 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: there's anyone that I wanted to dress like, it would 254 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: absolutely be Sylvie. So she's the marketing but I feel 255 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: like I'm talking. 256 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: To about I know you do. If it's from online. 257 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: She's the marketing boss that like is the sheakest woman alive. 258 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we need a Sylvie spin off immediately. 259 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: Is it all high end brands or is it? No? 260 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: It's actually like quite high low. There's a little bit 261 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: of that. There's like all the sites you know that 262 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: id what they're wearing, which has been great for me personally, 263 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: so you can shop some of what they're wearing. So 264 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: there's a bit she like Sylvie wore some high end stuff, 265 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: some Saint Laurent and Celine and whatnot, and then Emily 266 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: was more like your sort of mid tier occasionally a 267 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: little bit of like fun fashion, fast fashion. Not so 268 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: much fast fashion, but just like cool. 269 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 3: Good shit. So there's one more season. 270 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: There's one more season. So they're filming in Greece right now. 271 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: We're getting a few snippets of the pap shots of 272 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: them doing that. It looks like a really great backdrop 273 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: for the last season. But yeah, I'm really sad. 274 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 3: To see it. I'm gonna make a deal with you. 275 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to watch all of it right up until 276 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: this new season and then we can debrief it together 277 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: when that new season comes out. 278 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: Are you committed? You're gonna regret not watching it sooner? 279 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: My friend. Let me tell you so before we move on, Lucinda, 280 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: what's one thing that you're seeing that you really really 281 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: want to add. 282 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: To cut this week and I'm going to do it 283 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: as soon as we get off Mike. It's a military jacket. 284 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 3: I feel like any millennials or jen X would remember 285 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: the military jacket from Kate Moss wearing it at Glastonbury. 286 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a wrong visual there. 287 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: Coming up here Isabelle Morant. Yes, who else do we have? 288 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: Sassin bybe Yes? 289 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, like early two thousands. 290 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: Here a runway and I really I've been looking all 291 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: over Deep Hop trying to find one of the ogs. 292 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: But military jackets defined by a stand collar, the effaulets 293 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: which sit on the shoulder, the metal buttons, and just 294 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: a really sharp cut. So there was Vogue November twenty 295 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: twenty five cover where they had a double layered military 296 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: jacket that Greta Lee was wearing. And of course who 297 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 3: else has been in the military jacket? I saw? 298 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: Oh, who was it? Margot Robbie, She wore one recently 299 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: in McQueen one. 300 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. They just looks black one cool. So yeah, Margo's 301 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: was black, Juliafas was red. The one I'm looking at 302 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: is from Revolve. It's a black one, and I think 303 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: that's going to be a little bit more easier to wear, 304 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: so that's revolved. That one's two hundred and ninety two dollars. 305 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: There's also an incredible one from Wolf and Badger, which 306 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: is a little bit more expensive, but we'll include it 307 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: all in the show notes. I'm still gonna hunt though, 308 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: on say Vestia and deeppp for a bit more of 309 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: an affordable one. Yeah, love, and what are you adding 310 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: to your cup taffeta pieces? 311 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm seeing this everywhere. It's a fabric that you might 312 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: associate with like older ladies wear, but the cool girls 313 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: have really reclaimed it as their own. 314 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: Can you describe it to our listeners because when I 315 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: saw taffata, I didn't even know what it was until 316 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: I clicked on the eye. 317 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, once you see it, it's like 318 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: a sturdier version of like a silk coore satin with 319 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: a sheen to it. 320 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 321 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: That's why I say like older ladies wear, because if 322 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: he went into it, but you know, into an opshop, 323 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: you might see a bit of taffeta around. But now 324 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: brands like Verge Girl, Hanson and Gretel and Harris Tappa 325 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: have incorporated taffeta into recent collections. So this fabric sits 326 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: away from the body, whereas a silk coore satin kind 327 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: of robes the body, so it gives us slightly different 328 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: silhouette in that it sits away. So just keep that 329 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: in mind when you're shopping that you're looking for volume 330 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: in these pieces, it's going to create volume. Verge Girl 331 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: have some really interesting silhouettes in their new collection. They've 332 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: got dresses, shorts, and tops that have that kind of 333 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: flare to them that's really cool. The piece I'm eyeing 334 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: off is the Fairfax Mini Dress in black. It's a 335 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: shift dress with that volume, and it's got a v 336 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: neck at the back and it's black. 337 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: So beautiful. Really, would you mind if I got that 338 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: as well? No? No, use a lot of bear Park 339 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: vibes as well. 340 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm sure bear Park will be doing some 341 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: taffeta as well. Yeah. After the break, we'll be talking 342 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: about whether looking expensive is starting to look cheap and 343 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: what an earth is bowk or We'll get into it soon. 344 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: So we're at a point now where like quiet luxury 345 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: is no longer what we're aspiring to. Necessarily, there's nothing 346 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: wrong with doing quite luxury, but I feel like we're 347 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: kind of moved on from that. But we still want 348 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: to look polished and chic. I want to I'm personally 349 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: invested in looking effortlessly chic, But like, how are we 350 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: doing that now? 351 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: What does luxury look like now? 352 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the question, Like how are we doing that now? 353 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: Everyday style? I suppose, how has it evolved? 354 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: I really want to sink our teeth into these topics, Tam, 355 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: And the first one I want to talk about is 356 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: the death of logo mania. I know that sounds a 357 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: little bit violent and brutal, and I don't actually think 358 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: it's the death. No, but I don't think anything dies. 359 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: I think things just get put on ice until it's 360 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: time to come about again. But are you noticing this 361 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: as well? We're not as interested as consumers, we're not 362 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: leaning towards logos as much. 363 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that kind of visual sign posting has 364 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: kind of taken a back seat for a little while. 365 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: And like, this isn't a new notion, right, Like with 366 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: the whole we're going to say quiet luxury so many times, 367 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: and yes, we've been talking about quiet luxury for years. 368 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: We've moved on, but like that really was kind of 369 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: the death the start of the death of overt Brandy right, 370 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: because before that, I feel like we had years of 371 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: wearing a logo on your chest, Like remember those like 372 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: Selene t shirts with like giant logo in the middle, 373 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: Gucci belts, and yeah, like that was the one way, 374 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: like the key way to signal wealth and signal that 375 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: you can afford luxury was to do it that way. 376 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: And that's almost feeling quite twenty tens, isn't it, Like 377 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: the Paris Hilton's wearing the big logos. But I was 378 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: thinking how and why it's shifted. Would you agree that 379 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: one of the main reasons is there's just so many 380 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: fakes out there now, like everywhere online you can buy them. 381 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: I was in China a month ago and everyone was 382 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 3: wearing luxury brands. There's no longer that barrier to entry exclusivity. 383 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you can't tell the difference, then what's 384 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: the difference, I suppose is the question. Yeah, I guess 385 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: there's always two types of luxury shoffers, right, Like there's 386 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: that entry point aspirational shoffer. 387 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 3: They're the ones buying the Selene Triomphe belt, the Gucci belt, 388 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 3: the bags, the sunglasses, and they're still wanting some sort 389 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 3: of logo they've worked damn hard, They've earned this money. 390 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: They want to buy something that they're proud of. You 391 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: still sort of want some logo, I suppose would you agree? 392 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 3: And I think I fall into that camp, Like I 393 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: am still an entry point luxury shoffer. I'm not walking 394 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 3: into Chanell buying all the like the clothing. 395 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and that's why Chanell bags exist. I mean yeah, 396 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: like they cost twelve thousand dollars, but there are accessible 397 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: there's different levels that you can access, right, and it's 398 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: usually starts with to your point, a belt or Sonny's. 399 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 400 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean not many people can afford to even start 401 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: with a belt, right, but that's accessible luxury, yeah, the 402 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: lower tier. 403 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: And back to your point, Tam about the my crow 404 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: trend of quiet luxury. There's so many of these stealth 405 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 3: wealth old money quiet luxury and the hundreds of TikTok's 406 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 3: methodically telling people how to dress like old money, how 407 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: to create the old money look, and ironically I've been 408 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: creating these tiktoks for people as well, how to create 409 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: the old money look on a budget. The irony there. 410 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: Right, it is so ironic and like you know, even 411 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: the whole like throwing the knit around your shoulders and 412 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: adding the Ralph Lauren cap like these are easy ways 413 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: to make yourself look you know, money. Like you've made 414 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: the point before that like that used to be instinctial. 415 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: That used to be just like the esthetic that you 416 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: naturally are inclined towards it, Like this is like a 417 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: subculture and a way of dressing that we're adopting to 418 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: try to visually signpost something about ourselves that we're not. 419 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: It's actually not your own tastes exactly right. 420 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 3: It's cause playing a different social class, which is really bsire. 421 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: There was an amazing substec that I just want to 422 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: give a shout out to is by Jessica Harris. It 423 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: was called the Curated and it's all around how expensive 424 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: is starting to look cheap? And she said that, she said, 425 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: quiet luxury. It was all about, like you said, dressing 426 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: for instinct. You're wearing the collard shirt because you don't 427 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: want your neck to get some burnt when you're horse riding. 428 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 3: You've got that. 429 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: At the point. 430 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and the cashmir over the shoulders isn't just 431 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 3: a trend with everyone doing the same. It's coming off 432 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: as formulaic and just boring, right. 433 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: But I think this is why quiet luxury, as big 434 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: as it was, had to come and go, like it 435 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: had to be replaced by something new. Yeah, you know, 436 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: the pendulum swings back and forth. So we had quiet luxury, 437 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: and then it reverted back to like a sort of 438 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: maximalist esthetic again because we got sick of that, you know, 439 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: And it is just trends. 440 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: People to think we're squashing that minimalist look. We love that. 441 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: We don't want people going out dressing like a substitute 442 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: craft teacher or you know, I mean you have to 443 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: go whacky, but yeah, you do you but you and 444 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 3: I love a minimalist look. I love head to tell 445 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: a crew. I love beije on beije on, beije on beige. 446 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 3: But there's certain ways of dressing on how to create 447 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: a tasteful minimalist look and then one that sort of 448 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: maybe comes off a little less tasteful. But we can 449 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: go through those tips later on maybe how to pull 450 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: the right minimalist look together. 451 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, everything we're talking about here really leads me to 452 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: a trend that I'm seeing emerging in the zeitgeist called borcore. 453 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: Have you seen this? 454 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 3: Seen it? But can you tell me? Yeah? I'm confused 455 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 3: by it. 456 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: It comes up. This is not the first time we've 457 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: heard this word. It actually had a little moment back 458 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. I even did a reel about 459 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: borecore back in like twenty earlier than that. I think 460 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: I thought I coined it, but apparently. 461 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: Not before twenty twenty a little later than that. 462 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: I think I'd have to scroll back through my Instagram. 463 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: But basically, borcore is it's a fashion movement that's all 464 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: about stripping your look back to the basics, back to 465 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: essentials that you might even consider boring, quote unquote, but 466 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: they're actually incredibly considered. So the List Index, which is 467 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: fashion reporting body, in its fourth quarter report for twenty 468 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: twenty five, described borecour as a deliberate aesthetic of restraint. Okay, 469 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: so restraint's a really interesting word here, right, because restraint 470 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: implies what you're not doing right, You're pulling back. There's 471 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: things you're not doing with your aesthetic or with your 472 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: look to achieve a certain you know, a certain look. 473 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: And if you think about the influence of Carolyn Bessett 474 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: Kennedy's style after the show Love Story exploded and everyone 475 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: started trying to dress like Carolyn again, like CBK in 476 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: you know, minimalist looks. This is really that aesthetics starting 477 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: to settle in to the culture. So Borcore is about 478 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: bringing it back to basics. And I think something that 479 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: we're going to see more of now is that look 480 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: being interpreted through celebrity street style. So I think about 481 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: your I know we talk about them all the time 482 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: on the show, but think about your Hayley Baber's and 483 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: your Kendall Jenners and KaiA Gerber is another really good example. 484 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: And these are women that you know, in the past, 485 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: their style might have been more kind of dialed up 486 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: and glamorous, and now it's really like I would almost 487 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: define their aesthetics as boring intentionally, Like it made headlines 488 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: when Kendall Jenna wore a five dollars Haynes singlet back 489 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: with some leather pants, and it makes headlines when KaiA 490 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: Gerber wears a baby tea with some blue Levi's jeans 491 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: and some ballet flats, And that inherently is because those 492 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: outfits look so approachable and so quote unquote boring, but 493 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: they're achievable, right, So. 494 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 3: What would this have been called before? Is it just 495 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 3: like is it minimalist dressing? 496 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I think a tea in 497 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: jeans is as boring as it gets. But that doesn't 498 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: mean it's bad. 499 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: It almost like the DNA of Calvin Kline, isn't it. 500 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: It is Calvin Klein esque, isn't it. 501 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: I love there's a bit of joy and restraint, isn't it. 502 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: I love nothing more than just a pair of jeans 503 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: and a white tea. Right, Yes, it's nice just walking 504 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 3: out in that. There's joy and restraint. 505 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think that's what these women like if 506 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: I think about this celebrity influences, that's what they're trying 507 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: to do with their style. But the irony in talking 508 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: about restraint and style someone like CBK, like Carolyn set 509 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: Kennedy is so revered because achieving a minimalist look is 510 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: actually sometimes the hardest to execute, you know, Like and 511 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: this effortless cool of someone like a Kendle or a 512 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: Hayley that's not without thought process effortless is actually the 513 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: most effortful sometimes, and that's why they have to lean 514 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: on stylists to help them do the executing. So it 515 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: brings me to just to layer onto this concept of borcoor. 516 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: I recently read an article on what We're UK and 517 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: they were talking about the rise of a trend they're 518 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: calling the West Village girl wardrobe. You've seen this around, 519 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: but I like the sound of it. The West Village girl. 520 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean New York being the center of fashion, right, 521 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: but I mean the West Village is Yeah, it's a 522 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: it's a burrow of New York where a lot of 523 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: a lot of girls lev I suppose, but this is 524 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: also where you see celebrities like your Zoe Kravitz and 525 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 1: your Jennifer Lawrence and Dakota Johnson is another one that 526 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: was cited in this piece as being like a west 527 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: Vielach girl. So these women might be known for like 528 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: being amazing on the red carpet, but they really deliver 529 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: in their street style too. They're often papped in really 530 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: quite nondescript outfits. It's like casual separates with dad caps 531 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: and like really cool flats from the row and that 532 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And these outfits can be more powerful 533 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: than their red carpet outfits because they're kind of thing 534 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: that powers the fashion media. They keep our interest, you know, 535 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: like they're the ones that pop up on our social 536 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: feeds that we want to then emulate that they're the 537 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: ones that get the press. Isn't it talking? Yeah? 538 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: Isn't that the wild thing? Like the irony in that 539 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: it is really even just a basic dad outfit like 540 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 3: Jean's white tea in a hat that you mentioned. 541 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: Can be the coolest thing. 542 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: And just because they've worn it and been papped in it, 543 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: it's entered and filtrated in the zeitgeist again, yeah coined Yeah, 544 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 3: West Village girl. 545 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: And and if you think about someone like a Zoe Kravitz, 546 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: like she has such a hold on the fashion industry 547 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: at the moment, Like something that I want to reference 548 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: is an outfit that she wore. God, I reckon it'd 549 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: be over a year ago, but it's only just infiltrating 550 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: the market now. So she was wearing a raglin tea, 551 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: which is like a long sleeve white tea with contrasting 552 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: colored sleeves. You might also call it a baseball tea. 553 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: So it's a white tea with navy blue sleeves. Yeah, 554 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: and now we've seen that trend all over the high street. Yeah. 555 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 3: The best thing about these trends as well is they're 556 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: so easy to achieve on a budget, like I love 557 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: a baby all my white baby teas. I've got about 558 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 3: six of them from Kmart. I think they're about six dollars. Literally, 559 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: they're just I'm always in a white tea. Camart. You 560 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: can create these entire looks that you know, Zoe Kravis 561 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: and what not a wearing. 562 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: Exactly, Yeah, on a budget. She also wore those added 563 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: ass track shorts with heels. 564 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: I love it, and that's. 565 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,239 Speaker 1: That's like a huge trend now. So the power that 566 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: one of these women's street style outfits has. Jennifer Lawrence 567 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: is a really big one as well. She's very emblematic 568 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: of the West Village Girl trend. Everything she wears turns 569 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: to sold. 570 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: Do you know who her stylist is? She's looking amazing. 571 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't off the top of my head, but so 572 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: would you. 573 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: Say West Village Girl is a bit more like a 574 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: sporty aesthetic. Is that wind breakers and things? 575 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: There are some wind breakers, there's definitely some sporty jackets. 576 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: But I know, I think it's just casual. It's casual. 577 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: Where So just a few notes for our own wardrobes. 578 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: You know, if you want to get the West Village Girl, 579 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: we can call it whatever we want. Call it West 580 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: Village girl, call it barecore, call it you know, like, 581 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: but ultimately we're talking, like you said about back to 582 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: basics casual dressing and really just like leaning into that 583 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: and owning. 584 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: It and creating a tasteful, minimal West Village look without 585 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: looking like you just pulled it from a TikTok algorithm shopping. 586 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: With exactly, So go back to basics. Yeah, we're talking 587 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: plain tea, whether you do a baby tea, a raglan tea, 588 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: or just a nice crew cut T shirt. Tanks, white tanks, 589 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Simple denim so straight leg, baggy cut, 590 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: high waist crop. Whatever works for you and your body 591 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: is going to be the best nim shape for you. 592 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: Collared sweaters is a really great way to add a 593 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: touch of that kind of you know, almost what do 594 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: we want to call that? Like it just adds a 595 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: little bit more. Yeah, like it's sporty sheet exactly. Field 596 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: where fieldware. 597 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: You're going out shooting in the countryside. Fieldware? 598 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: Okay, fieldware. Yeah, these are all things that are on 599 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: the market. Invest in the best quality you can afford. 600 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: I always say another pointer, don't overthink the styling. Like, yes, 601 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Kendall and Zoe and you know, they all work with 602 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: stylists that help them to overthink it to the point 603 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,239 Speaker 1: that it looks immaculately under thought. But for you, you know, 604 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: keep it simple. I always think, Okay, if you're doing 605 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: one statement piece, let that shine. So if you're doing 606 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: the sporty track short and you and you're channeling Zoe Kravitz, 607 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: don't then do the sporty windbreaker as well. Just have 608 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: the T shirt with the track shorts, or just have 609 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: the windbreaker with the genes. 610 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: And all the things you're describing as well. They're just comfortable, 611 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: aren't they. You're dressed for comfortability. Yes, I love that 612 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: tip with any trend. Just pick one element of the trend. 613 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: Don't go head to toe. Yeah, western and like just. 614 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: To bring it full circle, like we talked about looking 615 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: rich and looking you know, luxury and sometimes the simplest Yes, 616 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: they can be hard to execute, but like comfort and 617 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: looking comfortable and what you're wearing, Like we all know 618 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: the power of leaving the house in an outfit that 619 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: you feel good and comfortable in, you know, and you 620 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: haven't had to overthink the elements, and that can often 621 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: translate the best as you're going about your day. I know, 622 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: for me, like if I feel good in it and 623 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: comfortable in it, that you know that courage so. 624 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: Your data shines. Yeah, and on that as well, like 625 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 3: dressing to look rich. It's all a bit icky, but 626 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: it is sort of all in the sort of algorithms 627 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: and how people are trying to achieve these looks. A 628 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: few tips around that it's not necessarily choosing the most 629 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: expensive brand, although that does help because they're using proper 630 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: materials and fabrications. But I guess when you're looking at items. 631 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: A couple of things I always do is if I 632 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 3: buy a pair of trousers, even if they do fit you, 633 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: it could just be an inch of tailoring to make 634 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 3: them look a little bit more refined. Or is it 635 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: the buttons? I find I really don't like plastic buttons. 636 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 3: I find any metal button really elevates a look. And 637 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: if I bought something that was a more affordable price 638 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 3: with a plastic button, I would take them off and 639 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: so them on myself, not personally myself, and I've got 640 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: plastic But I guess it depends on the look. But 641 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: if you wanted to try and create a more elevation. 642 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: It's just a way. It maybe wouldn't work for everything, 643 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: but just to elevate a look, switch out the buttons. 644 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: Also choosing the color in the minimalless world, like I 645 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 3: find stark white can be a little bit too much. 646 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: It's finding the right accrue, the right mushroom, the right 647 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 3: talk like, Yeah, I think the cool undertones come off 648 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: a little bit dirty. Trying to find those really warm 649 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 3: mutual colors I think can elevate an outfit definitely. And 650 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: the materials as well, Like some jackets and products are 651 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 3: meant to be made with particular materials, so wool, that heaviness, 652 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 3: the structure, it is going to look more elevated than 653 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: buying something that's not lined and just like doesn't hang 654 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 3: or fall properly from the body. Yeah, So choosing the 655 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 3: right fabrications and that's where you invest. Guys. We're loving 656 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: bringing these topics to the pod. And if there's anything 657 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: that you want us to bring, any questions, any conversations 658 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 3: you'd love Term and I to have, please send us 659 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: a DM on Instagram or any social channel. We're at 660 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: Nothing to Wear Pod. 661 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: After the break, we're going to get into Boogie to 662 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: Budget where I'm bringing you some Western inspired jeans. 663 00:31:51,520 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: Y h, it's very expensive, how wondred percent. 664 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: It's time for Bougie to budget. Yeah, where we each 665 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: bring you three items, one on the affordable end of 666 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: the spectrum, one that's in the kind of mid tier investment, 667 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: and then one that's like more of a splurge. Call 668 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: it what it is, a wish list, a wish list item. Yes, okay, 669 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: So Licinda, what. 670 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: Have you got for us this week? I got so 671 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: I'm bringing to Bougie and budget. Wrap pants or the 672 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: overlay pants have also been called. 673 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: I've also seen Fishermen pants around. 674 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's in case you don't know what they are. 675 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: It's a trouser with a built in sort of asymmetrical 676 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 3: band doanna. So it's almost like it's in the same colorway. 677 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: It's almost like a styling accessory that's built into the pant. 678 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 3: I find it really elongates the legs. I'm really flattering. 679 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 3: Coming into winter, I want to get out of my 680 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 3: jeans and get into more trousers. So they'd be really 681 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: great to wear out for dinner. Okay, So my budget 682 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: is from a brand called Charcoal. They're the Bonfire pant 683 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: they come in stone or off white. 684 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: Nice. 685 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: It's got that one long line asymmetrical bandana, all built 686 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: in looking really beautiful. I love the stone ninety nine dollars. 687 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: Pant, yeah yeah, And what about your mid range? 688 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 3: And my mid is from Motel Rocks and it is 689 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: another wrap around pant and that's in charcoal, similar style 690 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 3: for one hundred and twenty dollars. 691 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: That's also like quite a good price, right. 692 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's more just depending on what colourway you want. 693 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 3: I personally like the stone playing in those earthy colors, 694 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 3: but this is more maybe a bit more of an 695 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: elevated look in charcoal. And my last is Inku and 696 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: it's a wrap around pant in navy steel sounds. It's 697 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 3: quite premium looking. And that's two hundred and twenty dollars, 698 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: so still not too bad. That's more of a premium 699 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: price point, but there's three options there, really affordable, A 700 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: really great piece for the cooler months coming ahead. 701 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: I love it. You've sold me. 702 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: And tell me about your bougie to budget. 703 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: I am loving at the moment jeans with a bit 704 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: of an elevated twist, and I'm going to call them 705 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: like Western inspired jeans. So yeah, so whether it's like 706 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: rhinestone or stud detailing, or it's sort of a patchwork 707 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: effect of dark and light denim on the same gene. 708 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: So maybe you've got a light panel down the front 709 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: and a dark indigo panel down the back, or even 710 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: like stitching, you know, just Western inspired stitching along them. 711 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: I'm going to call it like the gusset jean, just 712 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: to kind of give a bit of like a you know, 713 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: like chaps or yeah, it grows to that kind of 714 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: I guess that cowboy yet tomorrow. Oh okay, yes, of 715 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: course you are. You need some Western inspired jeans for 716 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: perhaps some job pers. Okay, so my budget find is 717 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: from the label Daisy, which is on the Iconic. They're 718 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: the Kansas high Rise straight leg jeans. These are super 719 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: high rise baggy jeans. They're an indigo wash, and they've 720 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: just got like quite a subtle stitching along the top 721 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: of the like just under the hem that gives like 722 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: a little Western edge to a straight baggy jean. So 723 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: I love those, and they are one hundred dollars. 724 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 3: Okay. 725 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: My mid range are from Levi's. They're the rib Cage 726 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: Western Yolk jeans. So the rib Cage is a really 727 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: iconic Levi's style, the loved style. This is quite similar 728 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: to the style that you know and love. They're cropped 729 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: indigo jeans again, but again they have that stitching along 730 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: the front, but this is a little more structured. It's 731 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: kind of hard to explain. You're going to have to 732 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: take a look at these, I think to see what 733 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, but they're giving again, they're giving a 734 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: little bit of cowgirl energy, but not two extrames, just. 735 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 3: A bit of quirk to the other fide. Yeah exactly. 736 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: So like if you're wearing these with a T shirt 737 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: or a you know, an oversized shirt tucked in, they're 738 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: just going to give that little bit of edge to 739 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: the look. Yeah. So the Levi's jeans are one hundred 740 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars sixty one, Okay, so reasonable for Levi's gene. 741 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: And then for my bougie these are from Blank NYC. 742 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: They're the Franklin high Rise straight leg. These are a 743 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: true mid rise straight jeen. They're in like a vintage 744 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: blue wash, so more of that kind of lighter denim. 745 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: And these are like, to me, these are the perfect 746 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: Western inspired jeans. They've got like oversized silver disc studs 747 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: all the way down the side seam of the jenes 748 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: and it's just you turn to the side and you've 749 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: got that flash of. 750 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: The stud and of these cropped as well or not. 751 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: Just like at the ankle. 752 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 3: Nice. 753 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So these are like elite They are two 754 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight dollars and nineteen cents. 755 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: And are they a bit out there? Like? Are they 756 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 3: obviously do what? No? Like? 757 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: This is what I like about this trend is it's 758 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: not so out there that it's unwearable. It's not like 759 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: a cowprint jeen, cow hide gene or something. You're not 760 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: going it's not fringing down the side. It's like a 761 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: little bit of study. It's an elevated but not crazy great. 762 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: We'll be wearing be wearing those next. 763 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll probably be wearing the same ones. 764 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 3: So if you want all the links from today's episode, 765 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 3: they'll be in our show notes. 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