1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,024 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,104 --> 00:00:18,784 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,864 --> 00:00:21,544 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on Hi Spillers. 4 00:00:21,704 --> 00:00:24,304 Speaker 2: We are off today as it's a public holiday, but 5 00:00:24,384 --> 00:00:27,144 Speaker 2: we thought we'd pull out a little episode from Mamma 6 00:00:27,184 --> 00:00:30,584 Speaker 2: MIA's comedy podcast Canceled. They did a huge episode on 7 00:00:30,704 --> 00:00:33,384 Speaker 2: zac Efron that we absolutely love. They dove into his 8 00:00:33,904 --> 00:00:37,904 Speaker 2: infamous red carpet mishap that I also wrote about. I 9 00:00:38,024 --> 00:00:39,384 Speaker 2: want to link that in a show notes for you 10 00:00:39,424 --> 00:00:40,984 Speaker 2: to read because it's one of my favorite pieces I've 11 00:00:40,984 --> 00:00:43,864 Speaker 2: ever written, and they also talked about his controversial portrayal 12 00:00:43,904 --> 00:00:46,864 Speaker 2: of Ted Bundy. Enjoy this episode. We will be back 13 00:00:46,904 --> 00:00:54,424 Speaker 2: in your podcast feed at three pm tomorrow. 14 00:00:58,584 --> 00:01:01,304 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Canceled, the podcast. It looks at 15 00:01:01,384 --> 00:01:04,944 Speaker 1: silly celebrity crimes and as science charges and sentences so 16 00:01:04,984 --> 00:01:07,624 Speaker 1: we can all get on with our lives. I'm Jesse 17 00:01:07,704 --> 00:01:10,824 Speaker 1: Stevens and I'm joined by Claire Stephens. And do you 18 00:01:10,904 --> 00:01:13,224 Speaker 1: have a lazy girl story for us today? I do it. 19 00:01:13,224 --> 00:01:15,184 Speaker 1: It's a bit of a personal one, all right, Okay, 20 00:01:15,224 --> 00:01:16,984 Speaker 1: It's not what happens when you haven't been through the 21 00:01:17,224 --> 00:01:22,384 Speaker 1: well exactly. So we were on holidays recently, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 22 00:01:22,664 --> 00:01:27,064 Speaker 1: and we were traveling with an icon mum. Yeah, and 23 00:01:27,624 --> 00:01:30,224 Speaker 1: Mum just had a line which I thought would resonate 24 00:01:30,264 --> 00:01:33,784 Speaker 1: a lot with lazy girls everywhere. She was sitting on 25 00:01:33,824 --> 00:01:36,704 Speaker 1: a couch when we were in the south of France 26 00:01:36,784 --> 00:01:38,704 Speaker 1: and she had a book in front of her. Yeah, 27 00:01:39,024 --> 00:01:42,224 Speaker 1: and she said, I could read, I want to read, yeah, 28 00:01:42,544 --> 00:01:46,824 Speaker 1: but I prefer to be on TikTok. And I just thought, Wow, 29 00:01:47,344 --> 00:01:50,064 Speaker 1: that's it, isn't it. That's it. It's it, and it's 30 00:01:50,144 --> 00:01:54,904 Speaker 1: not just about reading, it's about work. I think that 31 00:01:54,944 --> 00:01:57,424 Speaker 1: a lot I got. I could be working, but I'd 32 00:01:57,544 --> 00:01:59,464 Speaker 1: rather be on it. But I'd rather be on TikTok. 33 00:01:59,464 --> 00:02:01,104 Speaker 1: And I thought, it's just one of those moments where 34 00:02:01,104 --> 00:02:05,104 Speaker 1: somebody says the unsaid, she's a lazy girl. There is 35 00:02:05,144 --> 00:02:08,424 Speaker 1: something really liberating about the other day. You know, I 36 00:02:08,464 --> 00:02:11,504 Speaker 1: found myself at an hour and I thought, what could exercise? 37 00:02:11,624 --> 00:02:13,944 Speaker 1: Could do? Laundry, house has messy, got work to do. 38 00:02:14,544 --> 00:02:19,344 Speaker 1: And I found myself intentionally walking towards my bedroom, getting 39 00:02:19,344 --> 00:02:22,704 Speaker 1: into my bed and going, we're gonna have to TikTok 40 00:02:24,704 --> 00:02:27,584 Speaker 1: uninterrupted TikTok time there was a meme going around that 41 00:02:27,704 --> 00:02:29,664 Speaker 1: was like, oh, what's your bed time routine? 42 00:02:29,744 --> 00:02:31,864 Speaker 2: These are the nine evidence based things that I've built 43 00:02:31,904 --> 00:02:32,584 Speaker 2: into my routine. 44 00:02:32,664 --> 00:02:34,344 Speaker 3: I followed the perfect nighttime routine. 45 00:02:34,384 --> 00:02:39,024 Speaker 1: Welcome to my nate routine. Well, it's ninety minutes of TikTok. Yeah, 46 00:02:39,784 --> 00:02:41,824 Speaker 1: that's what it is. Nineteen minutes before I'm going to 47 00:02:41,904 --> 00:02:45,464 Speaker 1: go to sleep. I get up my phone and I 48 00:02:45,544 --> 00:02:48,944 Speaker 1: start to scroll, and I lose myself and any sense 49 00:02:48,984 --> 00:02:51,304 Speaker 1: of time. It's funny because I always say I'm not 50 00:02:51,344 --> 00:02:53,744 Speaker 1: a routine person. I can't do routine. Well, the one 51 00:02:53,784 --> 00:02:56,584 Speaker 1: part of my routine that doesn't labor it's home before 52 00:02:56,624 --> 00:03:01,344 Speaker 1: bed hours and I'm talking out hours. Yeah. Everyone says, oh, 53 00:03:01,384 --> 00:03:03,864 Speaker 1: you've got time to excite. No, I don't. I'm busy. 54 00:03:03,904 --> 00:03:06,744 Speaker 1: I don't have time. Well, because I got TikTok. Time 55 00:03:08,064 --> 00:03:14,864 Speaker 1: very important always and sacred. You are about to enter 56 00:03:14,944 --> 00:03:21,864 Speaker 1: the canceled courtroom. The defendants are celebrities, the chargers are petty. 57 00:03:22,664 --> 00:03:29,304 Speaker 1: The rulings are final. Today we're talking about zach Efron. 58 00:03:29,704 --> 00:03:38,344 Speaker 1: This could be the start of something new to wdor weird, right, stars, 59 00:03:39,184 --> 00:03:43,824 Speaker 1: maybe the world could be I just walk up and 60 00:03:43,944 --> 00:03:47,824 Speaker 1: fucking jail with a budget, penises on my forehead, frost 61 00:03:47,824 --> 00:03:53,344 Speaker 1: before hose, right, yeah, man can junk before truck. Zachary 62 00:03:53,464 --> 00:03:56,824 Speaker 1: David Alexander E. Froch such a hot nurse, so I 63 00:03:56,904 --> 00:03:59,704 Speaker 1: challenge you to have another. First name. Was born in 64 00:03:59,824 --> 00:04:03,744 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven in California. In high school, Efron described 65 00:04:03,784 --> 00:04:06,864 Speaker 1: himself as having been the class clown I believe it, 66 00:04:07,664 --> 00:04:11,784 Speaker 1: and there he started singing lessons. He started acting in 67 00:04:11,824 --> 00:04:14,144 Speaker 1: the early two thousands, and one of his first roles 68 00:04:14,264 --> 00:04:16,504 Speaker 1: was in one of the greatest medical dramas of all time. 69 00:04:17,544 --> 00:04:21,264 Speaker 1: Er here are some irrelevant and blurry images. Oh my god, 70 00:04:21,824 --> 00:04:27,184 Speaker 1: he's on the table, and then the second image is 71 00:04:27,264 --> 00:04:31,584 Speaker 1: him with the doctor from are Yeah, they have recently 72 00:04:31,624 --> 00:04:34,664 Speaker 1: reunited in the Iron Core because she was the mother 73 00:04:34,744 --> 00:04:37,624 Speaker 1: in the Iron Clare. I know it's oh my god, 74 00:04:37,664 --> 00:04:39,384 Speaker 1: because in Iron Clare I was like, where do I 75 00:04:39,464 --> 00:04:43,944 Speaker 1: know that woman. The turning point for zac Efron came 76 00:04:43,984 --> 00:04:46,824 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six with a teen musical television 77 00:04:46,864 --> 00:04:48,704 Speaker 1: film called High School Musical. 78 00:04:49,104 --> 00:04:50,024 Speaker 3: This movie. 79 00:04:51,984 --> 00:04:59,264 Speaker 1: Something it feels. So there's a controversy there, which we 80 00:04:59,304 --> 00:05:01,984 Speaker 1: will get to. He then starred in Hairspray before doing 81 00:05:02,024 --> 00:05:06,624 Speaker 1: High School musical two, followed by scene every zach Efron movie, No, 82 00:05:07,584 --> 00:05:10,704 Speaker 1: followed by a high school musical three. My prom is 83 00:05:10,704 --> 00:05:14,024 Speaker 1: wherever you are. Some of his other movies include Bad Neighbors. 84 00:05:14,064 --> 00:05:16,064 Speaker 1: You've seen that Bad Bad Neighbor too. You've seen that. 85 00:05:16,104 --> 00:05:19,424 Speaker 1: We're gonna end the year with the most legendary rager 86 00:05:19,464 --> 00:05:22,384 Speaker 1: of all time. I'm talking even bigger than last year's 87 00:05:22,384 --> 00:05:26,984 Speaker 1: White Trash Bash. Have you seen Baywatch? Yeah? Oh yes, 88 00:05:27,064 --> 00:05:29,584 Speaker 1: I actually think bay Watch is an excellent film. Really, 89 00:05:29,824 --> 00:05:32,464 Speaker 1: I never watched it. Okay, The Greatest Showman. You've watched that? 90 00:05:32,744 --> 00:05:35,184 Speaker 1: Most recently The Iron Claw. You've watched that? Ever since 91 00:05:35,184 --> 00:05:37,224 Speaker 1: I was a child, people said my family was cursed. 92 00:05:38,184 --> 00:05:41,784 Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to protect us with God, trying to 93 00:05:41,784 --> 00:05:42,864 Speaker 2: protect us with wrestling. 94 00:05:42,984 --> 00:05:46,624 Speaker 1: And have you seen a family affair? Is that brand new? Yeah? 95 00:05:46,664 --> 00:05:50,824 Speaker 1: You have seen on my Netflix. Haven't seen it yet? Okay, no, 96 00:05:50,984 --> 00:05:53,104 Speaker 1: have not seen it. You can't animated films because we 97 00:05:53,104 --> 00:05:55,784 Speaker 1: talk about an animated film with Zaki from but like 98 00:05:55,864 --> 00:05:58,224 Speaker 1: you definitely haven't seen that something you failed to mention. Sorry, 99 00:05:58,224 --> 00:06:01,664 Speaker 1: are you getting to it? What? Yes? Okay, shut up? 100 00:06:02,984 --> 00:06:06,344 Speaker 1: Wait me meeting him? This is the next Okay, Okay, 101 00:06:07,544 --> 00:06:09,944 Speaker 1: I couldn't keep it in anymore. But before we. 102 00:06:09,904 --> 00:06:13,184 Speaker 3: Get into it, Claire, I just wanted to make sure 103 00:06:13,224 --> 00:06:16,704 Speaker 3: that you haven't had any experiences that may prejudice the jury, 104 00:06:17,344 --> 00:06:20,144 Speaker 3: like say, having met zach Efron or anything of that. 105 00:06:20,464 --> 00:06:23,624 Speaker 1: I reckon. I've mentioned it on this podcast close through 106 00:06:23,624 --> 00:06:27,824 Speaker 1: one hundred times. I did interview zach Efron as he 107 00:06:27,984 --> 00:06:31,024 Speaker 1: was doing Greatest Showman. I interviewed zac Efron and Zendia. 108 00:06:32,144 --> 00:06:35,344 Speaker 1: Zach Efron is one of the most beautiful people I've 109 00:06:35,384 --> 00:06:39,024 Speaker 1: ever sat opposite. Elaborate it's his eyes for me and 110 00:06:39,064 --> 00:06:42,224 Speaker 1: I went in and the eye contact, you know those 111 00:06:42,264 --> 00:06:44,304 Speaker 1: people who they say like they have like a real 112 00:06:44,344 --> 00:06:46,424 Speaker 1: presence and eye contact did not take his eyes off 113 00:06:46,464 --> 00:06:49,744 Speaker 1: me to the point where I walked out thinking there's 114 00:06:49,784 --> 00:06:53,144 Speaker 1: a love story that just blossomed. Yeah, between us. I 115 00:06:53,184 --> 00:06:56,384 Speaker 1: didn't hear from him in the aftermath, so you thought 116 00:06:56,384 --> 00:07:00,824 Speaker 1: he was very charismatic, very charismatic. Funny. I'm trying to 117 00:07:00,824 --> 00:07:03,504 Speaker 1: find the video on YouTube. Do you know, Oh, we 118 00:07:03,504 --> 00:07:06,064 Speaker 1: should reach out the video because speaking of lazy Girl, 119 00:07:06,344 --> 00:07:09,784 Speaker 1: one thing that I never got my head around, I 120 00:07:09,784 --> 00:07:12,584 Speaker 1: still don't get my around. I'm quite oily in the 121 00:07:12,624 --> 00:07:14,704 Speaker 1: face yeah, And it was a hot summer's day and 122 00:07:14,824 --> 00:07:17,264 Speaker 1: I was nervous and I went in and I did 123 00:07:17,264 --> 00:07:20,024 Speaker 1: this interview and it looks like my face is dripping. 124 00:07:20,744 --> 00:07:24,544 Speaker 1: It's the worst. Sucks because front and it's the worst 125 00:07:24,624 --> 00:07:29,664 Speaker 1: because that clip went viral because some fan clipped it 126 00:07:29,664 --> 00:07:32,104 Speaker 1: to say there was a moment of chemistry between Senda 127 00:07:33,104 --> 00:07:36,464 Speaker 1: and between me, and clearly the chemistry bestow me and him. 128 00:07:36,544 --> 00:07:38,864 Speaker 1: I've seen the video of the body slam. Did you 129 00:07:38,864 --> 00:07:41,584 Speaker 1: guys have any just really cringe worthy, embarrassing moment. 130 00:07:41,664 --> 00:07:43,784 Speaker 2: That's one of the things about being a part of 131 00:07:43,824 --> 00:07:45,944 Speaker 2: the musicals, that's you're ashamed of it. 132 00:07:46,064 --> 00:07:48,104 Speaker 1: Yeah, something goes wrong. You kind of have to get 133 00:07:48,144 --> 00:07:51,104 Speaker 1: rid of the fear of looking stupid. Yeah, exactly, because 134 00:07:51,144 --> 00:07:53,904 Speaker 1: if you live that way, you seriously will never get 135 00:07:53,944 --> 00:07:57,264 Speaker 1: anything accomplished. But it's literally got millions of views, and 136 00:07:57,304 --> 00:08:00,544 Speaker 1: there I am with the wettest face you do you've 137 00:08:00,584 --> 00:08:02,744 Speaker 1: ever seen. Even my friends messaged me being like, why 138 00:08:02,784 --> 00:08:04,664 Speaker 1: don't you put some powder on? And I was like, well, 139 00:08:04,864 --> 00:08:06,504 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was in a rush. I was 140 00:08:06,504 --> 00:08:08,704 Speaker 1: in a rush. I was stressed. I was concentrating on 141 00:08:08,784 --> 00:08:12,704 Speaker 1: my questions. But I think I've said on this podcast before. Yeah, 142 00:08:12,824 --> 00:08:17,664 Speaker 1: zac Efron, all the vibes then day are not as much. 143 00:08:18,224 --> 00:08:20,944 Speaker 1: Only she was very young and she was on her phone. 144 00:08:21,024 --> 00:08:23,544 Speaker 1: She's on her phone. You didn't lie that where is Zach? 145 00:08:23,904 --> 00:08:27,184 Speaker 1: And you were like, who even is a next minute? 146 00:08:27,304 --> 00:08:30,384 Speaker 1: Next minute? How embarrassing. I like zac Efron because I 147 00:08:30,384 --> 00:08:32,944 Speaker 1: think it's sexy when he dances, and I thoroughly enjoyed 148 00:08:33,264 --> 00:08:36,064 Speaker 1: the Greatest Showman. I also think he's funny. He was 149 00:08:36,064 --> 00:08:38,384 Speaker 1: a real laugh and bad neighbors. Did you know that 150 00:08:38,424 --> 00:08:41,824 Speaker 1: it's actually just called neighbors, yes, in America. Yeah, he's 151 00:08:41,824 --> 00:08:44,144 Speaker 1: a fun guy, and I get that sense that he'd 152 00:08:44,144 --> 00:08:46,944 Speaker 1: be a real fun person to her in sense of 153 00:08:46,984 --> 00:08:50,224 Speaker 1: human My structure for today is as follows, High School 154 00:08:50,304 --> 00:08:53,424 Speaker 1: Musical and an Awkward Truth, a condom and a red carpet, 155 00:08:53,824 --> 00:08:57,304 Speaker 1: an altercation with a homeless man, the film New Year's Eve, 156 00:08:57,744 --> 00:09:00,664 Speaker 1: making the worst serial killer of all time, sexually arousing, 157 00:09:00,864 --> 00:09:06,304 Speaker 1: and finally face High School Musical and an Awkward Truth. 158 00:09:07,424 --> 00:09:10,224 Speaker 1: In January two thousand and six, High School Musical debuts 159 00:09:10,384 --> 00:09:13,504 Speaker 1: the Disney Channel, and many say it's a modern adaptation 160 00:09:13,544 --> 00:09:17,624 Speaker 1: of Romeo and Juliet Ah. The film became an enormous 161 00:09:17,624 --> 00:09:29,304 Speaker 1: success with these young people with their singing and they're dancing. 162 00:09:29,584 --> 00:09:31,344 Speaker 1: I remember I was sick one time and I was like, 163 00:09:31,344 --> 00:09:32,824 Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do. Watch a high school 164 00:09:32,904 --> 00:09:36,384 Speaker 1: musical and it's great. It's really great. I've never watched it. 165 00:09:36,384 --> 00:09:39,584 Speaker 1: It's the music for me. Well, it's not zac Efron's voice. 166 00:09:40,264 --> 00:09:45,544 Speaker 1: What that's Drew's voice, which begs the question, who the 167 00:09:45,544 --> 00:09:52,984 Speaker 1: fuck is Drew? Drew, Yes, not Zach's voice. Drew Seeley 168 00:09:53,104 --> 00:09:55,424 Speaker 1: is a lovely young man who loves to sing. He 169 00:09:55,464 --> 00:09:58,624 Speaker 1: has been in some musicals and some television and movies. 170 00:09:58,704 --> 00:10:01,864 Speaker 1: But Zach Eye can sing. Zac Efron can sing, So 171 00:10:01,904 --> 00:10:04,544 Speaker 1: why didn't they use his voice? Well, I'm getting okay. Sorry, 172 00:10:04,584 --> 00:10:10,024 Speaker 1: I'm just Okayron said later in an interview. In the 173 00:10:10,024 --> 00:10:12,864 Speaker 1: first movie, after everything was recorded, my voice was not 174 00:10:12,984 --> 00:10:15,224 Speaker 1: on them. I was not really given an explanation. It 175 00:10:15,264 --> 00:10:17,544 Speaker 1: just kind of happened that way. Unfortunately, it put me 176 00:10:17,584 --> 00:10:20,024 Speaker 1: in an awkward position. It's not something I expected to 177 00:10:20,064 --> 00:10:22,984 Speaker 1: be addressed. Then high school musical blew up. I'm very 178 00:10:23,024 --> 00:10:25,544 Speaker 1: fortunate that Drew has gotten proper credit, and also that 179 00:10:25,584 --> 00:10:27,624 Speaker 1: I've gotten the opportunity to come back and try it. 180 00:10:27,664 --> 00:10:30,864 Speaker 1: Again with my own voice. He's very talented. I consider 181 00:10:30,904 --> 00:10:33,464 Speaker 1: myself a regular kid that can carry a tune. The 182 00:10:33,504 --> 00:10:37,344 Speaker 1: party line is that Efron is a baritone. Baritone is 183 00:10:37,384 --> 00:10:43,304 Speaker 1: quite low. Yeah, and all of Troy Bolton's songs I've 184 00:10:43,304 --> 00:10:47,784 Speaker 1: written for TENA, which is high. Yeah. Of course, so 185 00:10:47,864 --> 00:10:51,904 Speaker 1: Efron couldn't hit those notes. What's cruel is it? Drew 186 00:10:51,984 --> 00:10:55,784 Speaker 1: tried out and he missed it. Yeah, Drew's pretty proud. 187 00:10:55,784 --> 00:10:57,664 Speaker 1: I've read some interviews with Drew, and I'm going to 188 00:10:57,744 --> 00:10:59,864 Speaker 1: say that when I went to Drew's Wikipedia, I'm not 189 00:10:59,904 --> 00:11:03,104 Speaker 1: being mean, but his most recent achievements are like web series, 190 00:11:03,744 --> 00:11:07,944 Speaker 1: So I just don't feel like he's dak Evron. He did, though, 191 00:11:07,984 --> 00:11:12,264 Speaker 1: and he'll have, you know, help the lyrics for get 192 00:11:12,304 --> 00:11:18,824 Speaker 1: your Head in the game outside the game. But then 193 00:11:18,824 --> 00:11:21,064 Speaker 1: I went and looked up lyrics I get you. It's 194 00:11:21,144 --> 00:11:23,344 Speaker 1: very get to heend the game. It's very gets your head. 195 00:11:23,624 --> 00:11:24,904 Speaker 1: It's gets your head in the game. I got a 196 00:11:25,024 --> 00:11:26,944 Speaker 1: I gotta get my head in the game. Do you 197 00:11:26,984 --> 00:11:28,904 Speaker 1: think he helped with the lyrics get your head in 198 00:11:28,944 --> 00:11:31,464 Speaker 1: the game. Maybe he changed it from get your head 199 00:11:31,504 --> 00:11:34,184 Speaker 1: in the game to get you, because that is it's 200 00:11:34,184 --> 00:11:36,504 Speaker 1: officially gets your head in the game. And it was 201 00:11:36,544 --> 00:11:38,264 Speaker 1: I think it was nominated for an Emmy or something. 202 00:11:38,304 --> 00:11:41,864 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, yeah, Andrew saying it. Efron did sing 203 00:11:42,064 --> 00:11:44,544 Speaker 1: in the next two movies. There's ship between Fron and Drew. 204 00:11:44,584 --> 00:11:47,864 Speaker 1: I'll say that there's tension because Drew's like, well, I 205 00:11:47,944 --> 00:11:49,864 Speaker 1: didn't see Efron a lot because I was there when 206 00:11:49,864 --> 00:11:55,344 Speaker 1: he wasn't there. Make that lip sinking so good? It's 207 00:11:55,424 --> 00:11:58,424 Speaker 1: not not a thing. So it happened during the Olympics, 208 00:11:58,544 --> 00:12:00,984 Speaker 1: and there was like this person who was like the 209 00:12:01,104 --> 00:12:04,224 Speaker 1: voice of the Olympics when it was in China, and 210 00:12:04,784 --> 00:12:08,824 Speaker 1: she was remarkable, but that wasn't her voice. She had 211 00:12:08,864 --> 00:12:12,584 Speaker 1: like star power, but she didn't have the chops to 212 00:12:12,584 --> 00:12:14,904 Speaker 1: pull it off. That's what's so remarkable about say a 213 00:12:14,944 --> 00:12:18,664 Speaker 1: Nicki Webster is that you know, she was Nicky Webster 214 00:12:19,744 --> 00:12:23,864 Speaker 1: plus vocals. And with Zach, I think Drew was a 215 00:12:23,904 --> 00:12:26,024 Speaker 1: few years older as well, and so he was like, 216 00:12:26,144 --> 00:12:28,104 Speaker 1: I would have looked weird next to Vanessa Hudgens, and 217 00:12:28,104 --> 00:12:32,224 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's maybe what all. Maybe I'm not 218 00:12:32,344 --> 00:12:45,464 Speaker 1: Zach Efron Drew. We do have some very exciting news 219 00:12:45,664 --> 00:12:48,704 Speaker 1: for Lazy Girls, and that is that we have released 220 00:12:48,744 --> 00:12:52,424 Speaker 1: a lazy Girl collection on Moamir's exercise app Move. I 221 00:12:52,464 --> 00:12:55,464 Speaker 1: know what you're thinking, exercise app doesn't sound very lazy. 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Yeah, Okay, yeah, 239 00:13:53,664 --> 00:13:57,504 Speaker 1: that's why because I sorry, I'm gonna need to see Yeah. 240 00:13:57,504 --> 00:13:59,024 Speaker 1: If I'm going to the movie, it's to see him. 241 00:13:59,064 --> 00:14:01,344 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need to see you. Yeah. And as an aside, 242 00:14:01,504 --> 00:14:03,424 Speaker 1: in that movie, he lends his voice to a twelve 243 00:14:03,464 --> 00:14:05,184 Speaker 1: year old, so he's kind of playing a twelve year old, 244 00:14:05,184 --> 00:14:05,864 Speaker 1: but he's twenty four. 245 00:14:06,104 --> 00:14:10,824 Speaker 3: So, mom, do you happen to know if there's any 246 00:14:10,904 --> 00:14:13,824 Speaker 3: please where I could get a real tree? 247 00:14:13,904 --> 00:14:16,344 Speaker 1: Anyway, he's trying to pose with his hands in his pockets. 248 00:14:16,384 --> 00:14:18,744 Speaker 1: He's got like a cool pose and like sunglasses on 249 00:14:18,784 --> 00:14:22,344 Speaker 1: and stuff. He's looking good. Skinny Jean's absolutely height of 250 00:14:22,384 --> 00:14:25,024 Speaker 1: the Skinny Jean's moment. And he can't quite FITTI his 251 00:14:25,104 --> 00:14:28,024 Speaker 1: hands him. I was gonna say out loud, probably because 252 00:14:28,024 --> 00:14:30,704 Speaker 1: he has a big dick, but I decided against it. 253 00:14:32,104 --> 00:14:33,824 Speaker 1: So do you think he'd have a big dick. I 254 00:14:33,864 --> 00:14:38,944 Speaker 1: think he'd have a lovely would be lovely, but his hands, Yeah, 255 00:14:38,984 --> 00:14:40,944 Speaker 1: there's just a lot going on, you know what. Rather 256 00:14:40,984 --> 00:14:42,984 Speaker 1: than that, I think it's actually got a beautiful bottom. 257 00:14:43,104 --> 00:14:44,904 Speaker 1: He's got a booty. Yeah, he's got a booty, So 258 00:14:44,944 --> 00:14:47,184 Speaker 1: he can't get his hands in. So he empties his 259 00:14:47,224 --> 00:14:48,584 Speaker 1: pockets and he kind of goes and gives it to 260 00:14:48,624 --> 00:14:50,264 Speaker 1: the usher, like, oh, I should just take outlets in 261 00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:52,464 Speaker 1: my pockets. And as he does that, something falls out 262 00:14:52,504 --> 00:14:55,224 Speaker 1: onto the orange carpet and it is a silver like 263 00:14:55,264 --> 00:14:59,984 Speaker 1: an aluminium square, and it is a condom or as 264 00:15:00,024 --> 00:15:05,184 Speaker 1: Americans say, condom, a condom, a condom. The condom drop 265 00:15:05,384 --> 00:15:08,424 Speaker 1: happened with this movie poster in the background. Please describe 266 00:15:08,424 --> 00:15:12,144 Speaker 1: the movie poster, doctor Zeus. The law acts and it's 267 00:15:12,264 --> 00:15:16,864 Speaker 1: like it's it's from the creators of Despicable Media, and 268 00:15:17,104 --> 00:15:21,744 Speaker 1: it's clearly for children. Is for children, you see, it 269 00:15:21,784 --> 00:15:25,184 Speaker 1: was a children's movie and their twelve year old had 270 00:15:25,224 --> 00:15:29,624 Speaker 1: just dropped a condom mmmm of the orange so that 271 00:15:29,664 --> 00:15:32,904 Speaker 1: he didn't catch chlamydia. I would assume this is irrelevant, 272 00:15:33,104 --> 00:15:36,464 Speaker 1: that is it. There was someone else who voiced in 273 00:15:36,504 --> 00:15:38,824 Speaker 1: that film, and it was Taylor Swift, And all I'm 274 00:15:38,864 --> 00:15:41,704 Speaker 1: saying is that when he had a condom in his pocket, mmm, 275 00:15:42,624 --> 00:15:48,544 Speaker 1: who was he going to use it on? Okay, well, 276 00:15:48,744 --> 00:15:52,024 Speaker 1: so my theory here that was one hundred percent a 277 00:15:52,064 --> 00:15:55,824 Speaker 1: pr stunt. Claire actually brought the video to show you 278 00:15:55,824 --> 00:15:57,464 Speaker 1: because I want you to tell me whether you think 279 00:15:57,504 --> 00:15:59,544 Speaker 1: this is on purpose or not, because the more I 280 00:15:59,584 --> 00:16:02,184 Speaker 1: watch it, the more I think it is genuinely an accident. Okay, 281 00:16:02,264 --> 00:16:05,344 Speaker 1: all right, because it's very hard to act taking things 282 00:16:05,344 --> 00:16:07,384 Speaker 1: out of your pocket and just dropping one of the thanks. 283 00:16:07,384 --> 00:16:10,944 Speaker 1: Here we go so we can see him. He's just 284 00:16:11,024 --> 00:16:13,664 Speaker 1: on the red carpet. He's then like, all right, I'm 285 00:16:13,664 --> 00:16:15,664 Speaker 1: going to get these things. And I got some wet receipts, 286 00:16:15,744 --> 00:16:17,984 Speaker 1: maybe some lip bum, maybe a coin or two. And 287 00:16:18,024 --> 00:16:21,344 Speaker 1: he's handing it to the usher and something's just dropped 288 00:16:21,384 --> 00:16:23,264 Speaker 1: on the floor. He's very quickly picked it up, put 289 00:16:23,264 --> 00:16:25,344 Speaker 1: it back in his pocket and needs that. And now 290 00:16:25,384 --> 00:16:29,864 Speaker 1: he is mortified. He's putting sunglasses on, he's breathing deeply, 291 00:16:30,424 --> 00:16:33,064 Speaker 1: he's covering his mouth, he's looking the other way and laughing. 292 00:16:33,984 --> 00:16:36,224 Speaker 1: He is And I do think he's a brilliant actor. 293 00:16:37,024 --> 00:16:39,784 Speaker 1: But that is an A grade. I guess you could 294 00:16:39,784 --> 00:16:43,264 Speaker 1: interpret it either way. I mean, oh, I think it 295 00:16:43,304 --> 00:16:48,224 Speaker 1: didn't hurt his career. Let's just say that, because he's like, I, 296 00:16:48,944 --> 00:16:51,624 Speaker 1: you know what, it's very I have sex. Okay, That's 297 00:16:51,624 --> 00:16:52,944 Speaker 1: what I was going to say, is you know when 298 00:16:52,984 --> 00:16:57,264 Speaker 1: you're young, like in high school, and everyone's like, oh, no, 299 00:16:57,344 --> 00:17:00,544 Speaker 1: my my condoms are falling out of my wallet. Yeah, 300 00:17:00,584 --> 00:17:04,424 Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, no answer, and you're obsessed with 301 00:17:04,864 --> 00:17:08,424 Speaker 1: your own erect Painnis. It's very that, which is weird 302 00:17:08,424 --> 00:17:11,704 Speaker 1: because he's twenty four, Like that's a little bit old. Yeah, 303 00:17:11,744 --> 00:17:13,464 Speaker 1: but it's very when you're sing around with your friends 304 00:17:13,464 --> 00:17:16,704 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, let's please, like, never have I ever 305 00:17:17,304 --> 00:17:22,744 Speaker 1: its threesome? I have like that. It's very bad. After 306 00:17:22,784 --> 00:17:24,664 Speaker 1: the law Axe, he went on to play roles where 307 00:17:24,664 --> 00:17:27,344 Speaker 1: he was actually an adult, like The Lucky One and 308 00:17:27,384 --> 00:17:31,264 Speaker 1: Bad Neighbors. I've seen The Lucky One is excellent. He 309 00:17:31,344 --> 00:17:35,184 Speaker 1: returns from war. I believe that's a Nicholas bar and okay, 310 00:17:35,224 --> 00:17:37,144 Speaker 1: you know who's in the Lucky One is the woman 311 00:17:37,184 --> 00:17:40,504 Speaker 1: who ended up being the main woman. You know? Interesting, 312 00:17:41,064 --> 00:17:44,064 Speaker 1: well said, So the question is in this was he 313 00:17:44,224 --> 00:17:47,824 Speaker 1: saying I need condoms because I use my penis sexually. 314 00:17:47,904 --> 00:17:50,384 Speaker 1: I'm an adult man with an erection. Yeah, is that 315 00:17:50,464 --> 00:17:52,584 Speaker 1: what I represent? And I reckon it was very like 316 00:17:52,784 --> 00:17:57,664 Speaker 1: I'm not a Disney star anymore. Yeah, see, I need condom? 317 00:17:57,704 --> 00:18:02,664 Speaker 1: What do you use condoms for? My dig nice an 318 00:18:02,664 --> 00:18:04,944 Speaker 1: altercation with a homeless man. There comes a point in 319 00:18:04,984 --> 00:18:07,544 Speaker 1: every Disney Star's career where they have an altercation with 320 00:18:07,584 --> 00:18:13,504 Speaker 1: a home in twenty fourteen, Eefron reached that moment. So 321 00:18:14,024 --> 00:18:16,664 Speaker 1: he's in the skid Row area of Los Angeles. Yep. 322 00:18:16,664 --> 00:18:19,104 Speaker 1: I've seen that on Keeping Up with AH. It has 323 00:18:19,144 --> 00:18:21,464 Speaker 1: one of the largest stable populations of homeless people in 324 00:18:21,504 --> 00:18:24,584 Speaker 1: the US, and the police are called. They have one story. 325 00:18:24,824 --> 00:18:27,544 Speaker 1: Efron has a slightly different one. I'll start with the police. 326 00:18:27,984 --> 00:18:30,744 Speaker 1: The police reported that the fight started after midnight when 327 00:18:30,744 --> 00:18:33,144 Speaker 1: Efron threw a bottle out of the window of his car, 328 00:18:33,304 --> 00:18:36,424 Speaker 1: which shattered right near a group of homeless people. Efron 329 00:18:36,464 --> 00:18:39,984 Speaker 1: was ultimately punched in the face, and police found him 330 00:18:40,024 --> 00:18:43,544 Speaker 1: and his bodyguard fighting with several homeless men under an overpass. 331 00:18:43,944 --> 00:18:47,144 Speaker 1: No one was arrested because it was considered mutual combat, 332 00:18:47,464 --> 00:18:51,504 Speaker 1: and one source described Efron as heavily intoxicated. Efron says 333 00:18:51,584 --> 00:18:53,584 Speaker 1: him and a friend were searching for something to eat 334 00:18:53,744 --> 00:18:56,464 Speaker 1: downtown and they ran out of petrol, so he had 335 00:18:56,464 --> 00:18:59,464 Speaker 1: to pull over. He said, a homeless guy or vagrant 336 00:18:59,504 --> 00:19:02,384 Speaker 1: tapped on the driver's side window. Before I knew it, 337 00:19:02,424 --> 00:19:04,664 Speaker 1: my friend was out of the car. They started fighting. 338 00:19:05,744 --> 00:19:07,784 Speaker 1: I saw the homeless man was carrying some sort of 339 00:19:07,864 --> 00:19:09,624 Speaker 1: knife or shank, and I got out of the car 340 00:19:09,704 --> 00:19:11,984 Speaker 1: to disarm him. He said that being punched in the 341 00:19:11,984 --> 00:19:15,704 Speaker 1: face was the most terrifying moment in his life. Interestingly, 342 00:19:15,784 --> 00:19:17,944 Speaker 1: it was around this time that Efron decided to get 343 00:19:17,984 --> 00:19:20,984 Speaker 1: sober and he completed a stint in rehabs the drug 344 00:19:21,024 --> 00:19:24,504 Speaker 1: and alcohol abuse interested. I did not know that. Yeah, yeah, 345 00:19:24,544 --> 00:19:26,384 Speaker 1: he kind of disappeared for a little while, and he's 346 00:19:26,384 --> 00:19:29,984 Speaker 1: spoken a fair bit about it, like how all the 347 00:19:30,024 --> 00:19:33,984 Speaker 1: things that you get offered and struggling with addiction and 348 00:19:34,064 --> 00:19:35,704 Speaker 1: going to AA and that sort of thing. I'm not 349 00:19:35,744 --> 00:19:38,264 Speaker 1: happy with that story. I don't believe that you just 350 00:19:38,384 --> 00:19:40,984 Speaker 1: happened to run out of petrol in front of a 351 00:19:40,984 --> 00:19:43,944 Speaker 1: homeless person. I think he went to start a fight 352 00:19:44,504 --> 00:19:47,744 Speaker 1: or somebody he was with me. My thing is always, oh, okay, 353 00:19:47,824 --> 00:19:49,784 Speaker 1: we pulled over to get something to eat. What was 354 00:19:49,824 --> 00:19:53,264 Speaker 1: after midnight? Had you donner? Yeah? You go through drive 355 00:19:53,304 --> 00:19:56,184 Speaker 1: through macas after midnight. Everyone knows that, Yeah, like what 356 00:19:56,224 --> 00:19:57,984 Speaker 1: were you looking for? And he's like, oh, we couldn't 357 00:19:57,984 --> 00:20:00,224 Speaker 1: find somewhere to eat. The mate, it's twelve thirty, Yeah, 358 00:20:00,304 --> 00:20:03,104 Speaker 1: everyone's closed. Lot at you watch go home and have 359 00:20:03,184 --> 00:20:06,744 Speaker 1: some toast. Yeah, like everyone else the film New Year's Eve. 360 00:20:07,264 --> 00:20:09,464 Speaker 1: We've spoken at length on this podcast about the twenty 361 00:20:09,624 --> 00:20:14,304 Speaker 1: ten film Valentine's Day. It famously starred every Jennifer in Hollywood. 362 00:20:14,984 --> 00:20:18,664 Speaker 1: Two Jessica's a, Julia, two Taylors. I could go on, 363 00:20:19,504 --> 00:20:22,584 Speaker 1: but so New Year's Eve. What we haven't spoken about 364 00:20:22,704 --> 00:20:26,664 Speaker 1: enough is the poor cousin of Valentine's Day, Bradley Cooper 365 00:20:27,104 --> 00:20:31,904 Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper twenty eleventh film, utilizing the exact same formula 366 00:20:32,904 --> 00:20:35,064 Speaker 1: by this point, to the extent to which everyone just 367 00:20:35,104 --> 00:20:37,864 Speaker 1: wanted to make love actually, but no one could. No 368 00:20:37,944 --> 00:20:40,824 Speaker 1: Americans couldn't. No, no, no, no. Can you just throw another 369 00:20:40,904 --> 00:20:46,344 Speaker 1: name that was in years eight? Ah? Who just can 370 00:20:46,384 --> 00:20:51,184 Speaker 1: you remember? It's a real strange mishmatch. I'll tell you that, 371 00:20:51,184 --> 00:20:53,304 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That's why it's kind of hard, 372 00:20:54,504 --> 00:20:57,104 Speaker 1: because by this point I think the actors in Valentine's 373 00:20:57,144 --> 00:21:04,184 Speaker 1: Day had realized Jennifer Garner. No, I think the actors 374 00:21:04,184 --> 00:21:06,784 Speaker 1: in Valentine's Day had realized that something terrible had happened, 375 00:21:07,104 --> 00:21:09,544 Speaker 1: and they refused to ever work on a project again 376 00:21:09,544 --> 00:21:12,224 Speaker 1: that claimed to be like love actually but actually a 377 00:21:12,224 --> 00:21:15,104 Speaker 1: piece of shit. The makers of Valentine's Day, sat around 378 00:21:15,104 --> 00:21:18,464 Speaker 1: a table and said, through Britgard teeth, there are some 379 00:21:18,544 --> 00:21:24,104 Speaker 1: actors left, There are some did any crossover? Yeah? Okay, 380 00:21:24,184 --> 00:21:27,464 Speaker 1: and so came Newars Eve. Two actors crossed over. I'll 381 00:21:27,504 --> 00:21:29,464 Speaker 1: show you this image. Just start yelling out and I 382 00:21:29,504 --> 00:21:31,304 Speaker 1: guess who crossed over, and then you have to tell 383 00:21:31,304 --> 00:21:33,904 Speaker 1: me who crossed over? Okay, So Nears Eve has Jessica 384 00:21:33,944 --> 00:21:37,664 Speaker 1: Biel did she do that? Yeah, yep, Okay. We've got 385 00:21:37,704 --> 00:21:41,984 Speaker 1: Sarah Juska Parker, yeah. Uh, Catherine Heigel interesting, she was 386 00:21:41,984 --> 00:21:46,784 Speaker 1: picking up scraps. Hashton cuicture. Some of them I can't name, 387 00:21:46,824 --> 00:21:50,184 Speaker 1: I just know their faces. You got a Hillary Swang, 388 00:21:50,344 --> 00:21:55,704 Speaker 1: Robert de Niro, Josh dem he was with the chick 389 00:21:55,704 --> 00:21:58,344 Speaker 1: from the Black Eyed Peas for a moment. Who else 390 00:21:58,784 --> 00:22:05,984 Speaker 1: Liam Michelle, Hillary Swank? Perhaps? Who else crossed over? Ashton? 391 00:22:07,224 --> 00:22:09,624 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, and right in the middle 392 00:22:09,984 --> 00:22:13,664 Speaker 1: that zacky boy. Yeah. The plot is that it follows 393 00:22:13,664 --> 00:22:15,984 Speaker 1: several couples and singles in New York City over the 394 00:22:15,984 --> 00:22:18,464 Speaker 1: course of New Year's Age. I was on the IMDb 395 00:22:18,584 --> 00:22:23,664 Speaker 1: page and it said award nominations, so I clicked read 396 00:22:24,064 --> 00:22:30,984 Speaker 1: the awards of nominations Worst Actress Sarah Teska Parker, Worst 397 00:22:30,984 --> 00:22:36,784 Speaker 1: Director Gary Marshall, Worst ensemble the entire cast, Worst Picture, 398 00:22:37,144 --> 00:22:42,024 Speaker 1: and Worst Screenplay. Yeah, what how an achievement, Claire. The 399 00:22:42,024 --> 00:22:45,584 Speaker 1: film is terrible and I loved every minute. I actually 400 00:22:45,664 --> 00:22:48,184 Speaker 1: think and I will die on this hill. That front 401 00:22:48,664 --> 00:22:51,704 Speaker 1: was a standout. Yeah. Can you remember the best scene 402 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:55,824 Speaker 1: in the movie. You can, you can just below the surface. Sorry, 403 00:22:55,864 --> 00:23:01,704 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about the other which is excellent. 404 00:23:01,864 --> 00:23:06,984 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but he picks excellent films, excellent film, great mixture. 405 00:23:07,064 --> 00:23:09,384 Speaker 1: I remember watching that movie and being like, you really captured, 406 00:23:09,504 --> 00:23:12,624 Speaker 1: like a relation. That's a little bit funny. After the 407 00:23:12,664 --> 00:23:15,784 Speaker 1: movie ends and the credits roll, we just get to 408 00:23:15,824 --> 00:23:20,944 Speaker 1: watch Zach dancing. Do you remember this? He kisses Michelle Fiffer. 409 00:23:21,464 --> 00:23:27,184 Speaker 1: How are you doing at twice your age? Final resolution? 410 00:23:28,624 --> 00:23:32,744 Speaker 2: I kiss on who you see? Yeah? 411 00:23:32,784 --> 00:23:34,424 Speaker 1: I forgot to mention is in it, which just says 412 00:23:34,424 --> 00:23:38,304 Speaker 1: everything about the cast. Share the poster, you know it's 413 00:23:38,304 --> 00:23:40,544 Speaker 1: a big movie, when oh, yeah it is. No she is. 414 00:23:40,624 --> 00:23:42,184 Speaker 1: She just doesn't look okay. Yeah yeah. And there's a 415 00:23:42,224 --> 00:23:44,224 Speaker 1: lot of people that are vaguely famous, so I don't 416 00:23:44,264 --> 00:23:46,624 Speaker 1: know the names. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna share this thame Okay, yeah, 417 00:23:46,664 --> 00:23:49,824 Speaker 1: I forgot me, Like yeah, okay, yes, yes, yes, okay, 418 00:23:50,344 --> 00:23:52,144 Speaker 1: right right, turn off the lights. 419 00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:55,744 Speaker 2: We're gonna lose our Monster Nights dearly. 420 00:23:55,544 --> 00:24:01,304 Speaker 1: Top me, top three, feeling okay. The thing about zach 421 00:24:01,384 --> 00:24:06,824 Speaker 1: Efron dancing is he commits, ah, he commits a hundred 422 00:24:07,224 --> 00:24:10,184 Speaker 1: and a million percent and he goes such a good dance. 423 00:24:10,344 --> 00:24:12,584 Speaker 1: This is a routine and you can actually imagine him 424 00:24:12,624 --> 00:24:14,664 Speaker 1: in the club. You can imagine him in the club. 425 00:24:14,704 --> 00:24:17,264 Speaker 1: He dances like Travis Kelcey be the hottest person. Yes. 426 00:24:17,824 --> 00:24:20,264 Speaker 1: In fact, in Iron Clare, did you notice that there's 427 00:24:20,264 --> 00:24:26,944 Speaker 1: a scene where he dances at his wedding inside and 428 00:24:26,984 --> 00:24:31,664 Speaker 1: it's just fifteen seconds. Week, I break his contract every 429 00:24:32,144 --> 00:24:36,624 Speaker 1: he's on I'm a great dancer, So in every contract 430 00:24:36,704 --> 00:24:39,104 Speaker 1: for every movie there has to be a dance break 431 00:24:39,904 --> 00:24:43,224 Speaker 1: that it stole the film for him, so everyone leaves 432 00:24:43,224 --> 00:24:46,184 Speaker 1: going terrible film, great dance. I really liked that Raise 433 00:24:46,184 --> 00:24:49,304 Speaker 1: a glass. Yes, that was fun. That was fun at 434 00:24:49,304 --> 00:24:51,704 Speaker 1: the end, and it goes through the whole cast and 435 00:24:51,744 --> 00:24:54,224 Speaker 1: it's like and Michelle Pheiffer is like, you know, over 436 00:24:54,224 --> 00:24:56,584 Speaker 1: the age of forty, so she's basically got a walking stick. 437 00:24:57,584 --> 00:24:59,704 Speaker 1: Then it's like, how lucky is she that Zack Efron 438 00:25:00,184 --> 00:25:03,304 Speaker 1: is doing a jig in front of him and so sexy. 439 00:25:03,424 --> 00:25:04,984 Speaker 1: It was just a high for him because he wasn't 440 00:25:04,984 --> 00:25:08,064 Speaker 1: playing a four year old, His voice isn't dubbed, he 441 00:25:08,144 --> 00:25:11,624 Speaker 1: wasn't dropping a condoct making the worst serial killer of 442 00:25:11,664 --> 00:25:15,664 Speaker 1: all time arousing. Zac Efron is hot, beautiful, sexy and 443 00:25:15,744 --> 00:25:19,584 Speaker 1: as aforementioned arousing. Ted Bundy was an American serial killer 444 00:25:19,864 --> 00:25:22,544 Speaker 1: who kidnapped, raped, and murdered dozens of young women and 445 00:25:22,584 --> 00:25:26,024 Speaker 1: girls in the nineteen seventies. He confessed to thirty murders, 446 00:25:26,344 --> 00:25:29,224 Speaker 1: but the true number is not known, and in twenty nineteen, 447 00:25:29,584 --> 00:25:33,784 Speaker 1: director Joe Berlinger, who is fascinated by Bundy, released a 448 00:25:33,784 --> 00:25:38,544 Speaker 1: film called Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile, starring zac 449 00:25:38,584 --> 00:25:40,744 Speaker 1: Efron as a serial killer. It took me over a 450 00:25:40,744 --> 00:25:46,264 Speaker 1: decade to look at this phone. Now what happened to 451 00:25:46,464 --> 00:25:47,064 Speaker 1: her head? 452 00:25:48,544 --> 00:25:52,504 Speaker 2: She was still positive in the words to animals could 453 00:25:52,504 --> 00:25:54,784 Speaker 2: have conceivably done something. 454 00:25:54,544 --> 00:25:58,224 Speaker 1: Like animals don't do that. I'm not a bad guy. 455 00:25:58,664 --> 00:26:02,704 Speaker 1: Seen it, seen it? Efron was also a producer. Talk 456 00:26:02,744 --> 00:26:04,664 Speaker 1: to me about it because I haven't seen it. Actually, 457 00:26:04,704 --> 00:26:07,144 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it. No, you've actually seen it every 458 00:26:07,224 --> 00:26:12,704 Speaker 1: dae every day. No, it's good. Well, there was a 459 00:26:12,704 --> 00:26:15,704 Speaker 1: lot of criticism. Do you recall the criticism at the time. No, 460 00:26:16,104 --> 00:26:18,384 Speaker 1: that was everywhere. I remember everywhere. Wrote an opinion piece 461 00:26:18,424 --> 00:26:20,824 Speaker 1: and it was summed up by the Washington Post, who 462 00:26:20,864 --> 00:26:24,464 Speaker 1: said the film failed to distance itself from the glorification 463 00:26:24,544 --> 00:26:28,264 Speaker 1: of Bundy. The point was, according to critics, that Bundy 464 00:26:28,344 --> 00:26:30,744 Speaker 1: was hot, so no one could believe he would be 465 00:26:30,784 --> 00:26:34,144 Speaker 1: capable of such a barren crime. But like, yes, and 466 00:26:34,544 --> 00:26:36,224 Speaker 1: that was the vibe of the film, But that was 467 00:26:36,264 --> 00:26:38,904 Speaker 1: also the vibe of Ted Bundy in real life. Yes, 468 00:26:38,984 --> 00:26:42,424 Speaker 1: But their point was that the film was therefore unable 469 00:26:42,544 --> 00:26:45,504 Speaker 1: to do justice to the sheer volume of horror, and 470 00:26:45,544 --> 00:26:47,384 Speaker 1: that the fact he was hot in ordinary and blah 471 00:26:47,384 --> 00:26:49,624 Speaker 1: blah blah. It was like the dominant narrative at the time. 472 00:26:50,104 --> 00:26:52,424 Speaker 1: It was like it was broadcast and all these women 473 00:26:52,424 --> 00:26:54,584 Speaker 1: were looking at it, going, look, he's gorgeous, blah blah blah. 474 00:26:54,584 --> 00:26:57,784 Speaker 1: It's like you're telling the same story we've already heard. 475 00:26:58,464 --> 00:27:02,544 Speaker 1: Rather than doing any justice to any of his victims. 476 00:27:02,704 --> 00:27:04,504 Speaker 1: I know what they mean. We moved past him. Yeah. 477 00:27:04,504 --> 00:27:07,784 Speaker 1: Efron's performance was criticized because he didn't possess the malice 478 00:27:07,864 --> 00:27:11,424 Speaker 1: required and it sort of just perpetuate the stereotypes that 479 00:27:11,464 --> 00:27:13,864 Speaker 1: the press did during Yeah, like you got the hot 480 00:27:13,864 --> 00:27:18,144 Speaker 1: part right. Yeah. But actually, even when I think about it, 481 00:27:18,824 --> 00:27:21,864 Speaker 1: I don't even know if they showed the violence and 482 00:27:21,944 --> 00:27:23,904 Speaker 1: the horror. No, I don't think they did. No, it 483 00:27:23,944 --> 00:27:25,464 Speaker 1: was more like he's a normal guy who lives with 484 00:27:25,504 --> 00:27:28,864 Speaker 1: his wife. I set. Yeah, if you had a relative 485 00:27:28,864 --> 00:27:30,824 Speaker 1: that was killed by Ted Bundy, you'd be few, you'd 486 00:27:30,864 --> 00:27:33,184 Speaker 1: be like, Yeah. It was very like he's a new 487 00:27:33,224 --> 00:27:36,944 Speaker 1: heart throat film. By the way beat dubs it's Ted Bundy. Yeah. 488 00:27:37,424 --> 00:27:42,144 Speaker 1: Read this tweet. It's a picture of zac Efron. Look, 489 00:27:42,224 --> 00:27:44,104 Speaker 1: I actually didn't think he was at his hottest in this. 490 00:27:45,104 --> 00:27:47,344 Speaker 1: He was playing Ted Bundy. No, no, but it just 491 00:27:47,504 --> 00:27:50,544 Speaker 1: wasn't really his style. Like his hair was like curled 492 00:27:50,584 --> 00:27:52,864 Speaker 1: and he had bow ties and stuff. It's a tweet 493 00:27:52,904 --> 00:27:55,464 Speaker 1: that says, high, I'm Ted Bundy and you're watching disney Town. 494 00:27:55,744 --> 00:27:59,504 Speaker 1: It's a confusing pivot. It's a confusing pivot. This very 495 00:27:59,624 --> 00:28:03,224 Speaker 1: much is what the vibe was. Read that tweet. I 496 00:28:03,264 --> 00:28:05,304 Speaker 1: feel so bad for the families of the victims that 497 00:28:05,384 --> 00:28:07,784 Speaker 1: have to sit there and see their terrors revived as 498 00:28:07,824 --> 00:28:11,344 Speaker 1: a witty, romantic thriller. Yep, and then read this tree 499 00:28:11,424 --> 00:28:15,184 Speaker 1: down the bottom Ted Bundy rapes murders and estimated one 500 00:28:15,264 --> 00:28:18,024 Speaker 1: hundred sex workers and child You're but we need to 501 00:28:18,024 --> 00:28:20,104 Speaker 1: see his charismatic side. Oh my god. Plus he was 502 00:28:20,104 --> 00:28:24,024 Speaker 1: so hot. Yeah, okay that And look I looked at 503 00:28:24,064 --> 00:28:27,704 Speaker 1: images of zac Efron next to Ted Bundy, and I 504 00:28:27,784 --> 00:28:29,864 Speaker 1: know it isn't the point of the podcast, but it's 505 00:28:30,024 --> 00:28:34,504 Speaker 1: just just Ted Bundy wasn't hot. Absolutely no resemblance. I mean, 506 00:28:34,584 --> 00:28:38,504 Speaker 1: but then again, that happens with like generations. I know, 507 00:28:38,704 --> 00:28:40,904 Speaker 1: but I just think we've really over egged how hot 508 00:28:40,904 --> 00:28:44,064 Speaker 1: Ted Buddy was. I've often thought that. Anyway, I sort 509 00:28:44,104 --> 00:28:46,064 Speaker 1: of agree with you that Twitter missed the point a 510 00:28:46,104 --> 00:28:48,904 Speaker 1: little bit. Like the film was obviously meant to contrast 511 00:28:48,944 --> 00:28:51,624 Speaker 1: the charisma and the ordinariness with what the guy did. 512 00:28:52,184 --> 00:28:55,424 Speaker 1: And zac Efron was a producer, so he knew what 513 00:28:55,504 --> 00:28:58,224 Speaker 1: he was trying to do, and obviously it was a 514 00:28:58,304 --> 00:29:01,584 Speaker 1: career pivot he was stepping out of, Like you know, 515 00:29:01,744 --> 00:29:05,824 Speaker 1: he'd done New Year's Eve, yeah, and he needed to 516 00:29:05,864 --> 00:29:07,784 Speaker 1: go and he done my game. I'm going to be 517 00:29:07,824 --> 00:29:12,024 Speaker 1: a serious actor. Yeah, who should I play Ted Bundy? Yeah, 518 00:29:12,064 --> 00:29:13,704 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play ten and so. But we've kind of 519 00:29:13,864 --> 00:29:17,224 Speaker 1: the problem is that he was too sexy. Yeah, which 520 00:29:17,264 --> 00:29:20,144 Speaker 1: is that his fault? Maybe? Sorry? Speaking of him being 521 00:29:20,144 --> 00:29:23,344 Speaker 1: a serious actor, the wrestling movie Dying Claw. He's gonna 522 00:29:23,344 --> 00:29:25,944 Speaker 1: win award. Oh, he's so brilliant. He's just so a 523 00:29:25,944 --> 00:29:28,624 Speaker 1: great actor. He'll be what she is even I go, 524 00:29:28,704 --> 00:29:31,064 Speaker 1: you were great then, yeah, but mark my words, he'll 525 00:29:31,104 --> 00:29:33,064 Speaker 1: be winning an Academy Award in the next few years. 526 00:29:33,184 --> 00:29:45,224 Speaker 1: Not for a Family Affair. Finally, his face. There's a 527 00:29:45,264 --> 00:29:47,144 Speaker 1: movie out on Netflix called a Family Affair. 528 00:29:47,184 --> 00:29:49,064 Speaker 2: Because I can't play a blind alcoholic. 529 00:29:49,544 --> 00:29:53,264 Speaker 1: It goes against my iconography. My eyes are too pretty 530 00:29:53,304 --> 00:29:56,384 Speaker 1: to not be on camera. I told you we'd see 531 00:29:56,544 --> 00:30:00,584 Speaker 1: your eyes. Starring Nicole Kidman, Joey King, Claire. Can you 532 00:30:00,624 --> 00:30:05,464 Speaker 1: please remind the councel courtroom who Joey King is the 533 00:30:05,464 --> 00:30:12,424 Speaker 1: ex girlfriend of Jacob Lordie. Oh, yes, you're gonna gypsy 534 00:30:12,624 --> 00:30:15,744 Speaker 1: row gypsy rots. Yeah, but from the kissing booth la 535 00:30:15,864 --> 00:30:17,864 Speaker 1: la lah. They have history. We need to do a 536 00:30:17,904 --> 00:30:21,144 Speaker 1: big mind map of all the connections between them. And 537 00:30:21,264 --> 00:30:25,464 Speaker 1: of course Zach I watched five minutes and Luca made 538 00:30:25,544 --> 00:30:27,624 Speaker 1: us turn it off. But I have saved my place 539 00:30:27,664 --> 00:30:30,344 Speaker 1: and shall be returning in private. Okay. That often happens 540 00:30:30,344 --> 00:30:32,984 Speaker 1: with your partner, doesn't it. You go yeah, yeah, it's terrible. Yeah, 541 00:30:33,064 --> 00:30:34,704 Speaker 1: we won't and then I'm like, you go on out. 542 00:30:34,864 --> 00:30:37,944 Speaker 1: This week, I've got a movie to watch. The headline 543 00:30:37,944 --> 00:30:40,544 Speaker 1: about this film, which has a thirty nine percent rating 544 00:30:40,584 --> 00:30:42,424 Speaker 1: on Rotten Tomatoes, which makes me want to say more. 545 00:30:42,704 --> 00:30:43,904 Speaker 1: Is Zach Evron's face. 546 00:30:44,144 --> 00:30:47,384 Speaker 2: Right, folks. Zach Efron's jaw is making headlines again. 547 00:30:47,624 --> 00:30:50,584 Speaker 1: It's different. People on the internet say his face shape 548 00:30:50,584 --> 00:30:52,784 Speaker 1: has changed considerably. You can see in The Iron Claw 549 00:30:52,824 --> 00:30:55,384 Speaker 1: as well. His jaw is more square and his lips 550 00:30:55,424 --> 00:30:58,424 Speaker 1: appear fuller. And everyone's yelling you messed up your face 551 00:30:58,744 --> 00:31:03,304 Speaker 1: and sharing mean comparisons and saying that they feel personally victimized. 552 00:31:03,424 --> 00:31:06,384 Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't know, maybe you need to 553 00:31:06,424 --> 00:31:09,624 Speaker 1: go for a walk, okay, Dutch, some grass touch some 554 00:31:10,144 --> 00:31:12,144 Speaker 1: is hot, though it's still hot in Iron Clare. I 555 00:31:12,184 --> 00:31:15,744 Speaker 1: just think he's okay, yeah yeah. Efron has actually addressed 556 00:31:15,784 --> 00:31:19,504 Speaker 1: his changing face. He says that back in twenty thirteen, 557 00:31:20,224 --> 00:31:22,064 Speaker 1: he was running through his house in socks and he 558 00:31:22,144 --> 00:31:25,624 Speaker 1: tripped and fell on his fountain because there was a 559 00:31:25,624 --> 00:31:28,104 Speaker 1: puddle of water. This is a court room, so we 560 00:31:28,144 --> 00:31:32,664 Speaker 1: need to properly prosecute this story. I started by googling 561 00:31:32,744 --> 00:31:35,984 Speaker 1: granite fountain, okay, because I needed a visual. This is 562 00:31:36,024 --> 00:31:38,104 Speaker 1: what came up on Google Watch. I mean, this is 563 00:31:38,144 --> 00:31:40,824 Speaker 1: an outdoor fountain. Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask. 564 00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:43,024 Speaker 1: Was was talking about an indoor It's an indoor fountain 565 00:31:43,064 --> 00:31:45,224 Speaker 1: and his indoors at his home. Yes, why does he 566 00:31:45,264 --> 00:31:46,864 Speaker 1: have an indoor found? He has addressed that and he 567 00:31:46,864 --> 00:31:48,584 Speaker 1: said it's pretty cool. I have an indoor found, so 568 00:31:48,624 --> 00:31:50,744 Speaker 1: he knows that's not the knot. But he does have 569 00:31:50,784 --> 00:31:52,944 Speaker 1: an indoor fountain. But then what I did is I 570 00:31:53,024 --> 00:31:55,664 Speaker 1: tried to find an image of the granite fountain inside 571 00:31:55,664 --> 00:31:58,864 Speaker 1: his house, and I could find his house like as 572 00:31:58,904 --> 00:32:00,344 Speaker 1: in the one that he'd bought or whatever. But I 573 00:32:00,344 --> 00:32:02,504 Speaker 1: think he might have installed the granite fountain after he 574 00:32:02,544 --> 00:32:05,184 Speaker 1: purchased it, because I couldn't see an image. Okay, Now 575 00:32:05,384 --> 00:32:10,064 Speaker 1: I've got some comments about the fall, specifically the socks 576 00:32:10,104 --> 00:32:14,384 Speaker 1: and the water. I have slipped in my house wearing 577 00:32:14,424 --> 00:32:20,624 Speaker 1: socks on floorboards, on tiles. Lots of situations you know 578 00:32:20,784 --> 00:32:23,744 Speaker 1: a bit of water when you get out of the shower, slip, slip, 579 00:32:24,264 --> 00:32:28,784 Speaker 1: But when you're wearing socks when you step in wet 580 00:32:28,424 --> 00:32:34,504 Speaker 1: you okay, yes, yes, okay. There are two different ways 581 00:32:34,504 --> 00:32:41,584 Speaker 1: to slip. Yes, one is socks, dry floor. The other 582 00:32:42,064 --> 00:32:46,784 Speaker 1: is no socks, wet floor. That's they are the two ways. 583 00:32:46,824 --> 00:32:51,104 Speaker 1: If it slip on a granite fountain. Yeah, And what 584 00:32:51,144 --> 00:32:55,504 Speaker 1: I'm confused about is if you personally have ever slipped 585 00:32:56,624 --> 00:32:59,664 Speaker 1: on water and socks. Okay, what I will say, No, 586 00:32:59,944 --> 00:33:02,144 Speaker 1: I haven't, but this is what I will say. And 587 00:33:02,184 --> 00:33:04,824 Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. When you get an injury, 588 00:33:05,184 --> 00:33:07,824 Speaker 1: you somehow I hit my head the other day, like 589 00:33:07,864 --> 00:33:11,024 Speaker 1: a little while ago, full banged my head, huge egg 590 00:33:11,104 --> 00:33:13,904 Speaker 1: on my head, full bruise. I had to call the paramedics. 591 00:33:14,744 --> 00:33:16,984 Speaker 1: Whenever you have an injury as an adult, and I 592 00:33:17,104 --> 00:33:20,384 Speaker 1: have to explain how it happened. It sounds weird, sounds 593 00:33:20,384 --> 00:33:24,064 Speaker 1: like a lie. There's never a time when what you 594 00:33:24,144 --> 00:33:26,944 Speaker 1: were doing leading up to that to make this makes sense. 595 00:33:27,384 --> 00:33:30,864 Speaker 1: So me and my partner were walking home from dinner. 596 00:33:31,344 --> 00:33:34,824 Speaker 1: It was five pm. Yeah, so the paramedics are like, sorry, 597 00:33:34,864 --> 00:33:37,424 Speaker 1: you're walking hot dinner at five pm. Sounds like a lie. 598 00:33:37,544 --> 00:33:40,304 Speaker 1: We have a baby, right, so things are weird. So 599 00:33:40,344 --> 00:33:43,144 Speaker 1: you had dinner at four? Yeah? Yeah, And it's like, 600 00:33:43,464 --> 00:33:46,624 Speaker 1: why were you walking down this street? It's not a 601 00:33:46,624 --> 00:33:48,784 Speaker 1: logical way to walk to our house. And then I 602 00:33:48,824 --> 00:33:50,784 Speaker 1: think I had maybe a Luberta concussion. I was like, oh, 603 00:33:50,824 --> 00:33:54,304 Speaker 1: we were going to Messina all right after our four 604 00:33:54,464 --> 00:33:57,144 Speaker 1: thirty pm dinner, okay, And there's just a lot of 605 00:33:57,224 --> 00:34:00,544 Speaker 1: moving parts like, yeah, why were you It sounds like 606 00:34:00,584 --> 00:34:02,944 Speaker 1: you're covering. Yeah, it sounds like it sounds like you've 607 00:34:02,984 --> 00:34:07,824 Speaker 1: fallen to distract from a drug bust. Yes, And it's 608 00:34:07,864 --> 00:34:10,944 Speaker 1: like were you drinking? And it's like it does I 609 00:34:11,024 --> 00:34:14,464 Speaker 1: should have been drinking? Fair, fair, fair question, And no. 610 00:34:15,344 --> 00:34:18,744 Speaker 1: I am just very odd And every time I've injured myself, 611 00:34:18,744 --> 00:34:21,184 Speaker 1: I've thought that. So in zac Efron's defense, the weirder 612 00:34:21,224 --> 00:34:23,864 Speaker 1: the story, the more I actually believe it. Yeah, but 613 00:34:23,944 --> 00:34:26,144 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm with him on falling on the 614 00:34:26,144 --> 00:34:29,344 Speaker 1: granite funtain. Yeah. I just wonder if, in order to 615 00:34:29,384 --> 00:34:32,984 Speaker 1: make it believable, he's gone slippery and then he's gone 616 00:34:32,984 --> 00:34:35,384 Speaker 1: I'm going to add some slippery details. But the two 617 00:34:35,424 --> 00:34:38,464 Speaker 1: slippery details, it's like two positives equal and negative. I 618 00:34:38,504 --> 00:34:41,424 Speaker 1: think maybe there was water. Yeah, he doesn't realize that's 619 00:34:41,464 --> 00:34:44,104 Speaker 1: not what he slipped on. What did he slip on? 620 00:34:44,424 --> 00:34:48,384 Speaker 1: Just the normal floor? Okay? Or he actually wasn't wearing socks. Yeah, 621 00:34:48,464 --> 00:34:51,744 Speaker 1: he's just got confused. Yeah, Well, he was struck unconscious 622 00:34:51,784 --> 00:34:53,864 Speaker 1: and when he woke up, his chin was hanging from 623 00:34:53,944 --> 00:34:57,704 Speaker 1: his face. And I googled whether hitting your chin can 624 00:34:57,744 --> 00:35:00,064 Speaker 1: make you unconscious because I also want more. Does that 625 00:35:00,224 --> 00:35:04,224 Speaker 1: check out? No, definitely it does. Skull bones going up. Yeah, 626 00:35:04,304 --> 00:35:06,744 Speaker 1: he had to have his mouth wide shut and he 627 00:35:06,824 --> 00:35:09,864 Speaker 1: needed lots of stitches as a result of breaking his jaw. 628 00:35:10,424 --> 00:35:14,304 Speaker 1: A said that his other facial muscles, namely the mass tears, 629 00:35:14,744 --> 00:35:20,104 Speaker 1: which are used for chewing massader massa mass I'm sorry, 630 00:35:20,104 --> 00:35:23,424 Speaker 1: what was You know why I know it because people 631 00:35:23,464 --> 00:35:27,384 Speaker 1: talk about getting massive botox. Ah, that's the only context 632 00:35:27,424 --> 00:35:31,144 Speaker 1: is that I've seen TikTok videos of people talking about massa. Okay, 633 00:35:31,304 --> 00:35:34,024 Speaker 1: so grinding. It's the muscles that are used for chewing. 634 00:35:34,104 --> 00:35:36,264 Speaker 1: And the reason that people want botox for their grinding 635 00:35:36,544 --> 00:35:39,584 Speaker 1: is because it will make your jaw look bigger. So 636 00:35:39,824 --> 00:35:42,784 Speaker 1: if you grind or if you like overuse those muscles, 637 00:35:42,824 --> 00:35:47,144 Speaker 1: it can change the shape of your jaw. And basically 638 00:35:47,464 --> 00:35:50,344 Speaker 1: what happened was because it was wired shut and he 639 00:35:50,544 --> 00:35:53,344 Speaker 1: was like grinding like he had his teeth shut. The 640 00:35:53,424 --> 00:35:55,864 Speaker 1: idea is that it had kind of overcompensated and his 641 00:35:56,104 --> 00:35:58,704 Speaker 1: massaters grew to be really, really big, and he was 642 00:35:58,744 --> 00:36:00,344 Speaker 1: meant to be doing physio, but then he had another 643 00:36:00,344 --> 00:36:01,864 Speaker 1: project he had to go and work on, and he 644 00:36:01,904 --> 00:36:04,664 Speaker 1: didn't do the physioproperly, and apparently it grew and grew. 645 00:36:05,144 --> 00:36:07,304 Speaker 1: I googled it because I was like, well, can that happen? 646 00:36:08,024 --> 00:36:11,984 Speaker 1: And yeah, it can. This is a lie, like a 647 00:36:12,024 --> 00:36:16,704 Speaker 1: PR team has got a doctor involved and asked a 648 00:36:16,744 --> 00:36:18,264 Speaker 1: lot of questions. It seems a bit funny to be 649 00:36:18,264 --> 00:36:22,224 Speaker 1: defending him because women's appearance is always torn apart, and 650 00:36:22,424 --> 00:36:24,904 Speaker 1: how often do we talk about women ruining their faces 651 00:36:24,904 --> 00:36:27,984 Speaker 1: with plastic surgery or whatever. But I do think it 652 00:36:28,064 --> 00:36:30,024 Speaker 1: is never appropriate to say that, and it is sad 653 00:36:30,064 --> 00:36:33,904 Speaker 1: because it was an injury in a family affair. Zac Efron, 654 00:36:34,064 --> 00:36:37,904 Speaker 1: Actually he references he's due, but I'll tell you there's 655 00:36:37,944 --> 00:36:40,704 Speaker 1: another story. He's saying he fell over on set. No 656 00:36:40,864 --> 00:36:46,504 Speaker 1: mention of a granite film I did, though you read yeah, where. 657 00:36:47,864 --> 00:36:48,384 Speaker 2: That's right? 658 00:36:48,464 --> 00:36:54,064 Speaker 1: Here I fell answer. Oh yeah, I see it. It's 659 00:36:54,064 --> 00:36:59,104 Speaker 1: a brook. Okay, that's because it's in a script. I 660 00:36:59,224 --> 00:37:02,144 Speaker 1: just think that if we're gonna go with our sockshow 661 00:37:02,184 --> 00:37:06,504 Speaker 1: wet story, provide more details through feeling exactly exactly if 662 00:37:06,504 --> 00:37:08,464 Speaker 1: we're going to provide a detail through film. It felt 663 00:37:08,464 --> 00:37:10,064 Speaker 1: like he had to acknowledge it because people are going 664 00:37:10,104 --> 00:37:12,104 Speaker 1: to talk about the face. And he was like, no, 665 00:37:12,184 --> 00:37:15,944 Speaker 1: I've had an accident. I lost my chin on No. No, 666 00:37:16,584 --> 00:37:18,944 Speaker 1: but he talks about a scar. Yeah, he says he 667 00:37:18,984 --> 00:37:21,344 Speaker 1: nearly died. It was very very serious. It's very traumatic 668 00:37:21,344 --> 00:37:24,384 Speaker 1: for him. We shouldn't be laughing. Stop Claire. It is 669 00:37:24,424 --> 00:37:33,384 Speaker 1: time for charges and sentences. On the socks. We need 670 00:37:33,384 --> 00:37:35,584 Speaker 1: to know how wet because there's a point at which 671 00:37:35,584 --> 00:37:37,984 Speaker 1: obviously socks are made of fabric, and we know that 672 00:37:38,024 --> 00:37:42,464 Speaker 1: the fabric can cause resistance, which helps us to not 673 00:37:42,624 --> 00:37:47,424 Speaker 1: fall in wet. But were they so wet? Just become 674 00:37:47,504 --> 00:37:50,784 Speaker 1: foot You've taken a few steps and your sock has 675 00:37:50,784 --> 00:37:52,704 Speaker 1: soaked through, so that your sock is no longer sock 676 00:37:53,224 --> 00:37:56,304 Speaker 1: in terms of purpose. Exactly, there's no friction left. We're 677 00:37:56,344 --> 00:37:58,664 Speaker 1: just slipping around. Yeah, which I can see how you 678 00:37:58,704 --> 00:38:01,544 Speaker 1: would slip. I have another question in regards to this, 679 00:38:01,864 --> 00:38:03,904 Speaker 1: Like we're in a court room, your zac Efron, and 680 00:38:03,944 --> 00:38:08,344 Speaker 1: I'm just fasting questions. It's just my job. Why the wet? 681 00:38:08,544 --> 00:38:11,224 Speaker 1: Why the wet? Yes, so you have a granite fountain. 682 00:38:11,384 --> 00:38:14,384 Speaker 1: Love that fear it was from the fountain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 683 00:38:14,424 --> 00:38:19,424 Speaker 1: it's he fountain leaking. Yeah it was leaking. No, it 684 00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:22,624 Speaker 1: wasn't leaking. The problem with having a fountain inside is 685 00:38:22,864 --> 00:38:26,944 Speaker 1: that often water does splash from the fountain into the outside. 686 00:38:27,184 --> 00:38:29,544 Speaker 1: Zach Efron, do you have help? Yeah? They were sick 687 00:38:29,624 --> 00:38:32,984 Speaker 1: that day. I just feel as though if I'm zac Efron, 688 00:38:33,104 --> 00:38:35,664 Speaker 1: I'm not mupping up my own floor. I feel as 689 00:38:35,664 --> 00:38:37,984 Speaker 1: though there's a guy. Well, I think the surprise you 690 00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:41,024 Speaker 1: pay for having a fountain indoors, it's why I've not 691 00:38:41,104 --> 00:38:45,464 Speaker 1: done it, because I don't want wet. Yeah, there is 692 00:38:45,504 --> 00:38:49,184 Speaker 1: another feature of a lie. Again, I'm just asking questions 693 00:38:49,944 --> 00:38:53,104 Speaker 1: where we give a few too many details. Right, he 694 00:38:53,144 --> 00:38:55,944 Speaker 1: didn't trip over a fountain. He tripped over granite fountain. 695 00:38:56,504 --> 00:39:00,024 Speaker 1: It wasn't just any socks. It was wet. That's also 696 00:39:00,424 --> 00:39:03,784 Speaker 1: those details, the details that you think is that relevant 697 00:39:03,864 --> 00:39:08,464 Speaker 1: also a feature of the truth. That interesting, interesting but 698 00:39:08,784 --> 00:39:11,584 Speaker 1: a strange It's like when I I'm lying about why 699 00:39:11,744 --> 00:39:15,384 Speaker 1: I'm sick from whack, I'm taking a photo of my 700 00:39:15,464 --> 00:39:20,424 Speaker 1: vomit right, Like, I'm really over providing on evidence. And 701 00:39:20,504 --> 00:39:22,704 Speaker 1: I just wonder if he had truly fallen, would he 702 00:39:22,824 --> 00:39:26,704 Speaker 1: say I sipped at home it was an injury. I'd 703 00:39:26,744 --> 00:39:28,544 Speaker 1: like a picture of the granite fountain, okay, And I'd 704 00:39:28,584 --> 00:39:30,144 Speaker 1: like to know where it happened. I don't know. I 705 00:39:30,144 --> 00:39:31,624 Speaker 1: feel like if you were chatting to a friend about 706 00:39:31,624 --> 00:39:33,824 Speaker 1: how you injured yourself, sometimes you do provide just a 707 00:39:33,864 --> 00:39:38,464 Speaker 1: few details. Yeah, okay, so you believe me? Yeah? I 708 00:39:38,464 --> 00:39:40,184 Speaker 1: think I believe him too. And what's that saying? Truth 709 00:39:40,224 --> 00:39:43,304 Speaker 1: is stranger than fiction? Oh wow in the can? 710 00:39:43,944 --> 00:39:45,824 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, weird. 711 00:39:45,584 --> 00:39:48,424 Speaker 1: Of the story, the more true. I'm going to go 712 00:39:48,464 --> 00:39:50,024 Speaker 1: first in the charge. I need to talk about New 713 00:39:50,104 --> 00:39:53,184 Speaker 1: Year's Eve. I saw that because he was in it, 714 00:39:54,264 --> 00:39:57,784 Speaker 1: and that was one hour and fifty three minutes of 715 00:39:57,784 --> 00:40:00,464 Speaker 1: my life I'm not getting back. And storylines that don't 716 00:40:00,464 --> 00:40:04,464 Speaker 1: involve him so many Yes, it's like I'm just over here. 717 00:40:04,704 --> 00:40:07,464 Speaker 1: What was his watching Bloody Robert de Niro? If someone 718 00:40:07,544 --> 00:40:09,904 Speaker 1: to watching Robert de Niro film, I'd watch literally any 719 00:40:09,904 --> 00:40:14,624 Speaker 1: other one words. Yeah, I need to watch him in 720 00:40:14,744 --> 00:40:17,464 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. What is zac Efron's storyline in that? 721 00:40:17,504 --> 00:40:20,144 Speaker 1: I think he's pursuing Michelle Pfeiffer older woman, and she's like, 722 00:40:20,184 --> 00:40:25,424 Speaker 1: I'm older than you. That's kind of hot. It took 723 00:40:25,504 --> 00:40:28,344 Speaker 1: too long to get to the dancing scene as established, 724 00:40:28,344 --> 00:40:31,344 Speaker 1: and there's actually another crime which breaks the rules of 725 00:40:31,504 --> 00:40:34,864 Speaker 1: court because you shouldn't bring up new evidence in the ruling. 726 00:40:35,224 --> 00:40:39,024 Speaker 1: Or maybe that's debating, can't be clear. Yeah, remember a 727 00:40:39,064 --> 00:40:41,264 Speaker 1: few years ago he came to Australia and he started 728 00:40:41,424 --> 00:40:44,504 Speaker 1: dating a girl in Byron Bay. Yeah, I could draw 729 00:40:44,624 --> 00:40:48,904 Speaker 1: a photo of her from memory. That pissed me off, okay, 730 00:40:49,064 --> 00:40:54,064 Speaker 1: because it was like, well, now maybe you are within reach, 731 00:40:55,024 --> 00:40:57,904 Speaker 1: like you're literally just over the plane trip cheeky ten 732 00:40:57,984 --> 00:41:01,624 Speaker 1: hour drive from where I'm sitting right now to zac Efron, 733 00:41:01,824 --> 00:41:03,824 Speaker 1: And like I know the cafe where she was working 734 00:41:03,864 --> 00:41:05,144 Speaker 1: that she met him, and it's like I could have 735 00:41:05,144 --> 00:41:07,824 Speaker 1: been at that cafe. I could have worked there. Yeah, 736 00:41:07,944 --> 00:41:10,664 Speaker 1: so we're dating Australians now, Yeah, could have let me 737 00:41:10,704 --> 00:41:13,184 Speaker 1: know and then within ten years of my age, and 738 00:41:13,224 --> 00:41:16,624 Speaker 1: then I thought, so if we were open to dating 739 00:41:16,944 --> 00:41:21,144 Speaker 1: everyday goals. Yeah, how about when I met you? Yeah? 740 00:41:21,184 --> 00:41:25,104 Speaker 1: And why didn't we flag that so that a few 741 00:41:25,144 --> 00:41:27,064 Speaker 1: of us could get a shot? Good? Because it nearly 742 00:41:27,144 --> 00:41:29,824 Speaker 1: ruined my relationship with my husband, the father of my child. 743 00:41:30,464 --> 00:41:34,024 Speaker 1: It did, Yeah, because I went all right, there's a 744 00:41:34,144 --> 00:41:37,344 Speaker 1: chance that the man from high school, musical man in 745 00:41:37,384 --> 00:41:39,304 Speaker 1: bad neighbors, who I think is a real laugh and 746 00:41:39,344 --> 00:41:42,944 Speaker 1: does a sexy dance in Newyear's Eve. He's just over there, 747 00:41:43,184 --> 00:41:45,184 Speaker 1: it's just picking up girls, just looking for love. He 748 00:41:45,184 --> 00:41:49,984 Speaker 1: could dance just for me, and he likes the Australian accent. 749 00:41:50,064 --> 00:41:53,144 Speaker 1: Apparently that relationship did end. 750 00:41:52,824 --> 00:41:54,464 Speaker 3: It did end because she. 751 00:41:54,584 --> 00:41:58,864 Speaker 1: Wasn't right, Oh, because you're right? Yes, okay, yes, but 752 00:41:58,944 --> 00:42:02,904 Speaker 1: he was getting warmer. My sentence is all forgive any 753 00:42:02,944 --> 00:42:05,384 Speaker 1: film if he dances at the end. And that's what 754 00:42:05,424 --> 00:42:07,424 Speaker 1: I learned from New Year's Eve, which brings me to 755 00:42:07,464 --> 00:42:11,144 Speaker 1: Ted Bundy. Oh he needed a little a film missing 756 00:42:11,144 --> 00:42:15,864 Speaker 1: a dance, or if a dance feels inappropriate, the film's 757 00:42:15,904 --> 00:42:21,064 Speaker 1: not for you, Zach said, Well said, so maybe that's 758 00:42:21,064 --> 00:42:23,864 Speaker 1: a good test litmus test. Ted Bundy isn't playing to 759 00:42:23,904 --> 00:42:26,784 Speaker 1: your strengths. Whereas look, I don't condone anything. Ted Bundy 760 00:42:26,784 --> 00:42:29,584 Speaker 1: did Bad Guy. I'm on the record of saying that, 761 00:42:29,664 --> 00:42:32,424 Speaker 1: but Zac Efron dancing even as Ted Bundy, I'd have 762 00:42:32,424 --> 00:42:34,384 Speaker 1: watched it, okay, and I wouldn't have mind just as 763 00:42:34,424 --> 00:42:37,184 Speaker 1: the credits roll, okay, saying it made sense in the 764 00:42:37,224 --> 00:42:39,384 Speaker 1: wrestling movie for him to do a dance. It could 765 00:42:39,464 --> 00:42:42,584 Speaker 1: make sense for Ted Bundy to do a little hip hop. Okay, 766 00:42:42,944 --> 00:42:45,984 Speaker 1: do a break dance. That's fine. Old Wait, Claire, what's 767 00:42:46,024 --> 00:42:51,624 Speaker 1: your charge? My charge is doing things that aren't playing 768 00:42:51,624 --> 00:42:54,944 Speaker 1: to his strengths slash talents. Okay, So when we take 769 00:42:54,984 --> 00:42:58,264 Speaker 1: on a role that isn't You're a triple threat, mate, 770 00:42:58,464 --> 00:43:01,584 Speaker 1: so you're dancing acting, yeah, and your faith and your 771 00:43:01,584 --> 00:43:06,544 Speaker 1: face for your quadruple threat. And so I want things 772 00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:10,104 Speaker 1: that really play to that. So, for example, wrestling movie, 773 00:43:10,104 --> 00:43:12,824 Speaker 1: I exclusively refer to his wrestling movie. Yeah, I don't 774 00:43:12,824 --> 00:43:14,544 Speaker 1: know the name. It's called The Iron Claw. It was 775 00:43:14,744 --> 00:43:17,504 Speaker 1: so good. Same with the Greatest Showman. I think that 776 00:43:17,504 --> 00:43:19,664 Speaker 1: that was some of zach Efronitty's best because he could 777 00:43:19,664 --> 00:43:23,824 Speaker 1: triple threat yeah, singing, dancing, kissing, yeah, zenda, et cetera. 778 00:43:23,984 --> 00:43:27,104 Speaker 1: There wasn't enough singing dancing in Ted Bundy. And another 779 00:43:27,184 --> 00:43:28,984 Speaker 1: way that he's not playing to his strengths. It's when 780 00:43:29,384 --> 00:43:32,624 Speaker 1: all these drugs and alcohol and homeless man encounter boys 781 00:43:32,664 --> 00:43:36,144 Speaker 1: stop that. No, that's not playing to your strengths. Well, 782 00:43:36,184 --> 00:43:38,304 Speaker 1: he had a moment, he said, I've learnt from it. 783 00:43:38,464 --> 00:43:40,664 Speaker 1: Yeah that was ten years ago. Well, I'm glad he's 784 00:43:40,664 --> 00:43:42,824 Speaker 1: off the drugs now so we can focus more on 785 00:43:43,504 --> 00:43:48,024 Speaker 1: his skills. Yes, well, no sentence. Zach Efron needs a 786 00:43:48,064 --> 00:43:51,464 Speaker 1: TikTok where he dances. I don't understand why his people 787 00:43:51,504 --> 00:43:56,104 Speaker 1: haven't set that up. Yeah, genuinely quit everything else, mate, 788 00:43:56,464 --> 00:43:59,864 Speaker 1: and just dance on TikTok. Should he do like a 789 00:43:59,944 --> 00:44:04,264 Speaker 1: jojo si wakama? No, because I get the ick That 790 00:44:04,304 --> 00:44:07,184 Speaker 1: would be icky. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. But just 791 00:44:07,864 --> 00:44:12,064 Speaker 1: I want more dance to more dancing. I think he's 792 00:44:12,064 --> 00:44:13,584 Speaker 1: trying to move away from that is a sense I 793 00:44:13,584 --> 00:44:17,224 Speaker 1: get from the Ironclare. M Oh yeah, it'd be taken seriously. 794 00:44:17,304 --> 00:44:19,664 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, him and Timothy Shall and I can 795 00:44:19,704 --> 00:44:22,904 Speaker 1: do a dance together. Oh oh, anyway, So I need 796 00:44:22,944 --> 00:44:25,584 Speaker 1: more dancing, and TikTok is a lovely accessible way for 797 00:44:25,584 --> 00:44:28,064 Speaker 1: me to get it. I love that. Thank you so 798 00:44:28,144 --> 00:44:30,744 Speaker 1: much for joining us on this episode of canceled. The 799 00:44:30,784 --> 00:44:35,264 Speaker 1: executive producer of Canceled is Toelysabezazz with audio editing. Bye 800 00:44:35,344 --> 00:44:38,824 Speaker 1: Tom Lyon. We are gonna post on the pictures Ted 801 00:44:38,824 --> 00:44:40,544 Speaker 1: Bundy what he looks like a picture of a granite 802 00:44:40,544 --> 00:44:42,784 Speaker 1: fountain that now exists in my phone, and and that 803 00:44:42,904 --> 00:44:46,304 Speaker 1: video of him dancing at the end of mm onto 804 00:44:46,344 --> 00:44:48,464 Speaker 1: the Twins underscore thoughts on Instagram. And if you have 805 00:44:48,504 --> 00:44:51,304 Speaker 1: a lazy girl story then please send it through to 806 00:44:51,424 --> 00:44:55,024 Speaker 1: podcasts at mummeya dot com dot au. We will be 807 00:44:55,024 --> 00:45:01,984 Speaker 1: back next week. Bye bye before we go. If you 808 00:45:02,144 --> 00:45:04,544 Speaker 1: are looking for something else to listen to, then I 809 00:45:04,664 --> 00:45:09,904 Speaker 1: have fantastic news because someone I know, Claire Spoiler, it's 810 00:45:09,984 --> 00:45:14,664 Speaker 1: you just did a whole season of a chart topping 811 00:45:14,704 --> 00:45:17,784 Speaker 1: podcast called But Are You Happy? All the episodes are 812 00:45:17,824 --> 00:45:20,384 Speaker 1: now available and you can go and listen to them. Claire, 813 00:45:20,384 --> 00:45:22,224 Speaker 1: what are some of the highlights from the season you've 814 00:45:22,224 --> 00:45:24,624 Speaker 1: just done. It's weird that you're not taking the piss 815 00:45:24,624 --> 00:45:26,704 Speaker 1: out of me, so it's just an awkward dynamic right now. 816 00:45:26,824 --> 00:45:29,624 Speaker 1: But some of the people I've interviewed for this season 817 00:45:29,904 --> 00:45:36,184 Speaker 1: are media personality Laura Burt, musical theater star Rob Mills, 818 00:45:36,984 --> 00:45:42,304 Speaker 1: Olympic gold medalist around Tipnas, comedian Josh Thomas. We've got 819 00:45:42,384 --> 00:45:45,584 Speaker 1: Brooke Blurton, We've got actress and Gowerie Rice, who is 820 00:45:45,624 --> 00:45:50,024 Speaker 1: in Mean Girls. And there are just so many fascinating 821 00:45:50,064 --> 00:45:54,704 Speaker 1: conversations on this season about what happens when you get 822 00:45:54,784 --> 00:45:59,144 Speaker 1: everything that you want and how it doesn't feel how 823 00:45:59,224 --> 00:46:03,344 Speaker 1: you would think it feels. We talk about people who 824 00:46:03,344 --> 00:46:07,144 Speaker 1: would trade what they have in terms of success for 825 00:46:07,264 --> 00:46:09,744 Speaker 1: something else that they feel is missing in their lives. 826 00:46:09,744 --> 00:46:14,624 Speaker 1: You talk about jealousy, regret, me mental health, mental health, 827 00:46:14,944 --> 00:46:17,584 Speaker 1: and it's the season that I think everyone will find 828 00:46:17,624 --> 00:46:21,584 Speaker 1: something that resonates with them. You haven't referenced the biggest 829 00:46:21,624 --> 00:46:23,584 Speaker 1: endorsement of this season. I said, chart topping. I think 830 00:46:23,624 --> 00:46:25,744 Speaker 1: Apple chose it as one of their best podcasts last year, 831 00:46:25,824 --> 00:46:28,984 Speaker 1: But that means nothing in comparison to the endorsement you've got, 832 00:46:29,424 --> 00:46:32,224 Speaker 1: which was from one Anne Stevens, who did share the 833 00:46:32,304 --> 00:46:38,624 Speaker 1: Rob Mills episode just with the two words He's gorgeous. Okay, okay, 834 00:46:39,024 --> 00:46:40,984 Speaker 1: I just got the hearts for Rob Mills. Yeah she does, 835 00:46:41,024 --> 00:46:44,184 Speaker 1: which is like, I mean I ambushed him and he 836 00:46:44,344 --> 00:46:47,304 Speaker 1: came in, and I think there was an ambush, yes, 837 00:46:47,464 --> 00:46:50,704 Speaker 1: not appropriate, I yelled, you're my husband, Yeah, which isn't 838 00:46:50,744 --> 00:46:53,624 Speaker 1: he's engaged, Yeah, you shouldn't. Yeah. In the last season, 839 00:46:53,704 --> 00:46:56,184 Speaker 1: your bloody interviewed his fiance. So it's just all getting 840 00:46:56,224 --> 00:46:58,744 Speaker 1: very awkward. If you want to hear that awkwardness Claire 841 00:46:58,744 --> 00:47:01,944 Speaker 1: blowing up a future marriage, then listen to the late 842 00:47:02,064 --> 00:47:04,024 Speaker 1: season of But Are You Happy. There is a link 843 00:47:04,224 --> 00:47:05,064 Speaker 1: in the show. Note