WEBVTT - Katy Perry & Orlando Bloom’s Break-Up Story And Dakota Johnson’s Revenge 0:00:11.064 --> 0:00:14.104 So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 0:00:14.784 --> 0:00:18.664 Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 0:00:18.704 --> 0:00:26.984 that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 0:00:27.024 --> 0:00:30.944 to the spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick. 0:00:30.624 --> 0:00:33.064 And I'm Cayley McCarran, and we have got a ripper 0:00:33.144 --> 0:00:35.144 of a show for you today, Spillers. 0:00:35.424 --> 0:00:38.104 Yes, Oh, a lot of heartbreak, a lot of intrigue, 0:00:38.184 --> 0:00:40.184 a lot of gossip that we're going to weave through. 0:00:40.464 --> 0:00:42.584 We've got two big celebrity couples that have been the 0:00:42.624 --> 0:00:46.544 spotlight because allegedly both of their relationships have come to 0:00:46.584 --> 0:00:48.864 an end for different reasons. So we're going to get 0:00:48.904 --> 0:00:49.264 into that. 0:00:49.704 --> 0:00:54.184 Well. First, first, Laura, I want to talk to you 0:00:54.504 --> 0:00:57.224 about the pop star that you have probably heard on 0:00:57.264 --> 0:01:02.024 the radio lately NonStop. That is our friend, Miss Sabrina Carpenter. 0:01:02.064 --> 0:01:03.104 She's not our friend at all, but. 0:01:03.264 --> 0:01:04.944 Well, yes, I hear her on the radio. I also 0:01:04.984 --> 0:01:07.504 play her on a constant loop on my Spotify as 0:01:07.504 --> 0:01:10.304 I walk toward from work. Really that and musicals. Yeah, 0:01:10.944 --> 0:01:12.824 she's a boppy girl. I love her music. 0:01:13.264 --> 0:01:15.424 Can't relate to that at all. Really, Yeah, we'll get 0:01:15.464 --> 0:01:18.824 into that in a minute though. But Sabrina Kappener's Manchild, 0:01:31.464 --> 0:01:33.904 which was released a couple of weeks ago and then 0:01:33.904 --> 0:01:36.824 her music video has just come out that accompanies it, 0:01:36.864 --> 0:01:41.104 secured the biggest streaming debut for a female artist on 0:01:41.144 --> 0:01:44.944 global Spotify this year, so passing Chapel Rones the Giver, 0:01:45.264 --> 0:01:46.704 which I'm sure you would I would know it if 0:01:46.744 --> 0:01:48.304 you sung a little bit to me. But I also 0:01:48.344 --> 0:01:49.504 was kind of like bing bong. 0:01:49.784 --> 0:01:52.384 Yeah no, no, that's a great song. I'm not going 0:01:52.464 --> 0:01:54.144 to sing it because I don't have the vocal range 0:01:54.144 --> 0:01:56.144 of Chapel Rome, but it's a banger of a song. 0:01:56.264 --> 0:01:59.424 But a lot of people are talking because her music 0:01:59.504 --> 0:02:03.784 video and the posters and all of the visuals have 0:02:03.904 --> 0:02:06.264 come out with the song, and let me just if 0:02:06.304 --> 0:02:09.264 you haven't seen it, well, I'm gonna summarize what happens. 0:02:10.144 --> 0:02:14.744 The video starts with Sabrina hitchhiking across the country with 0:02:14.824 --> 0:02:19.784 one disastrous man after another, and it's set and filmed 0:02:19.824 --> 0:02:22.864 in a very sixty seventies so vibe. It's very cool, 0:02:22.904 --> 0:02:25.504 like it's very visually beautiful, which is a metaphor for 0:02:25.584 --> 0:02:28.984 going from bad relationship to bad relationship, which you know 0:02:29.064 --> 0:02:31.184 a lot of gals in their twenties can relate to. 0:02:31.624 --> 0:02:34.584 So she's catching all these rides with multiple men, and 0:02:34.624 --> 0:02:37.464 they're all like kind of weird, Like it's very surreal, 0:02:37.504 --> 0:02:40.024 as if you're having a strange dream. Like there's really 0:02:40.064 --> 0:02:42.384 impossible vehicles, and at one point she's like in a 0:02:42.384 --> 0:02:45.864 pool with a shark. So there's a jet ski. There's 0:02:45.904 --> 0:02:49.344 an armchair that just driving along. All of them have wheels. 0:02:49.664 --> 0:02:52.264 There's a motorcycle with a supermarket shopping cut bolted to 0:02:52.304 --> 0:02:53.704 the side. I don't know how much of it is AI, 0:02:53.984 --> 0:02:56.664 which is part of the problem with art these days. 0:02:56.824 --> 0:02:58.744 You watch something really cool like that and you think, 0:02:59.104 --> 0:03:01.704 but how much is AI? I just don't know. And 0:03:01.744 --> 0:03:03.344 at the end of the video, so that goes on 0:03:03.384 --> 0:03:05.144 for a couple of minutes while she's singing, and it's 0:03:05.264 --> 0:03:07.024 not a very good song to be well, I don't 0:03:07.024 --> 0:03:08.704 think it is. At the end of the video, she 0:03:08.744 --> 0:03:11.184 gets out of the car and immediately lags down another 0:03:11.224 --> 0:03:13.224 that pulls up next to her. She gets into that 0:03:13.224 --> 0:03:15.344 one and drives away, and that's it. And she's dressed 0:03:15.464 --> 0:03:19.144 very Daisy Duke, very Jessica Simpson in. 0:03:19.264 --> 0:03:21.664 The books are Made for what Jukes had. 0:03:21.744 --> 0:03:25.184 Yeah, that one like really hot, like but cheeks hanging out, 0:03:25.224 --> 0:03:32.264 little crop, big blonde curls, absolutely gorgeous, objectively hot for 0:03:32.344 --> 0:03:35.544 both the female and male gaze. But there is a 0:03:35.584 --> 0:03:39.544 lot of commentary online about it being performative feminism and 0:03:39.544 --> 0:03:42.784 that she's just always performing, that she's a feminist. 0:03:43.784 --> 0:03:44.704 I just don't know. 0:03:44.824 --> 0:03:46.944 I don't know. I'm interesting what you think. I just 0:03:46.984 --> 0:03:49.744 don't know if she's really thought that much about it. 0:03:49.784 --> 0:03:52.024 And I don't think that this song in particular is 0:03:52.064 --> 0:03:55.624 supposed to be a feminist anthem. Like I think that 0:03:55.664 --> 0:03:58.864 it's just a summer banger about well, other people think 0:03:58.904 --> 0:04:02.464 it's a banger. I don't about constantly choosing the wrong 0:04:02.544 --> 0:04:05.904 men and wanting to look hot for the male gaze 0:04:05.944 --> 0:04:08.264 all the time while you're running around chasing the wrong men. 0:04:08.664 --> 0:04:10.664 That's what I think it is. I think that people 0:04:10.664 --> 0:04:11.504 are just really. 0:04:11.224 --> 0:04:13.504 Looking into it. Oh, I mean I think definitely looking 0:04:13.584 --> 0:04:16.064 very over sexualized and glamorous is a huge part of 0:04:16.064 --> 0:04:18.464 her brand and she loves it. And also why wouldn't you? 0:04:18.744 --> 0:04:21.264 But it's interesting because this has come out and then as. 0:04:21.304 --> 0:04:23.704 An oscar, why are you trying to look like Charlie's 0:04:23.704 --> 0:04:24.424 thrown in Monster. 0:04:25.984 --> 0:04:28.304 I love this the two extremes. It's like blonde pinup 0:04:28.344 --> 0:04:31.464 girl or crazy serial killer who's lost all her teeth. 0:04:31.464 --> 0:04:33.744 There is no in between. There is absolutely that's what 0:04:33.824 --> 0:04:36.144 we learned from Hollood and that's on them. 0:04:36.544 --> 0:04:36.704 Yeah. 0:04:36.744 --> 0:04:38.744 I think it's interesting, like with the video clip coming 0:04:38.784 --> 0:04:40.664 out and also as like em and I spoke on 0:04:40.704 --> 0:04:42.904 a recent episode of The Spill, like the cover for 0:04:43.024 --> 0:04:46.064 Manta where she's like again that very over sexualized pose 0:04:46.344 --> 0:04:48.624 and she's kind of on her hands and knees, you know, 0:04:48.744 --> 0:04:51.664 really intense makeup, and a man who's like off to 0:04:51.704 --> 0:04:53.304 the side of the photo is like leaning down, like 0:04:53.384 --> 0:04:57.024 pulling her hair back, and people like she's too over sexualized. 0:04:57.704 --> 0:05:00.344 All her music, her video clips, her photos are all 0:05:00.344 --> 0:05:02.984 this like very kind of pinup girl but also being 0:05:02.984 --> 0:05:04.944 dominated by men. But I think if you look a 0:05:04.984 --> 0:05:07.064 little bit closer, I mean, at the end of the day, 0:05:07.064 --> 0:05:08.904 these are pop songs, so they're not meant to. 0:05:08.904 --> 0:05:10.944 Be And who cares if she she wants to be 0:05:11.024 --> 0:05:13.624 dominated and over sexualized? 0:05:14.184 --> 0:05:16.704 Who gets well? I do under central extent, Like the 0:05:17.064 --> 0:05:19.224 whole point is like art, whether it's like a pop 0:05:19.264 --> 0:05:21.384 song or like an album or a painting is like 0:05:21.424 --> 0:05:23.024 to put it out into the world and have people critique, 0:05:23.064 --> 0:05:24.664 and so I think that's fine. But I also think 0:05:24.664 --> 0:05:26.984 there's a lot of layers to the art that she 0:05:27.064 --> 0:05:29.784 puts out, Like when you look at her past video clips, 0:05:29.784 --> 0:05:32.144 they all they're not just her in a little sequent 0:05:32.224 --> 0:05:34.544 outfit dancing, although a few of them obviously have that, 0:05:34.784 --> 0:05:37.584 but they all have this really interesting element of storytelling, 0:05:37.624 --> 0:05:39.104 like she loves to do a little film with all 0:05:39.104 --> 0:05:39.344 of them. 0:05:39.544 --> 0:05:41.744 That's what I loved the film. Yeah, I thought it 0:05:41.784 --> 0:05:44.184 was great. Well, it's like this when. 0:05:44.104 --> 0:05:46.224 Her and Barry Kogan when he was in a video clip, 0:05:46.224 --> 0:05:47.864 remember that, and they were like breaking out of the 0:05:47.944 --> 0:05:50.504 jail cell. We had this little narrative, Or when she 0:05:50.664 --> 0:05:53.704 re enacted all these incredible movies in her other video clip, 0:05:53.944 --> 0:05:56.744 like Death Becomes Her and General Tager was in it, 0:05:56.784 --> 0:05:59.264 and there was like this beautiful visual storytelling and all 0:05:59.264 --> 0:06:01.304 these little easter eggs buried in there for people who 0:06:01.344 --> 0:06:03.944 are like lovers of like that particular very campy genre 0:06:03.984 --> 0:06:07.024 of film, and whether that's her whole team, it's probably 0:06:07.024 --> 0:06:09.224 like a mixture of both. Again, it was like very 0:06:09.264 --> 0:06:12.384 intentional story telling to be very campy, be over the top, 0:06:12.424 --> 0:06:15.504 but also lean into this like, oh sexualized image. And 0:06:15.544 --> 0:06:17.504 it's interesting because I was reading a profile with her 0:06:17.504 --> 0:06:20.504 and Rolling Stone the other day and they were asking 0:06:20.544 --> 0:06:23.824 her about like this intense kind of like this pushing 0:06:23.864 --> 0:06:26.424 of sex and this pushing of like sex with her identity, 0:06:26.864 --> 0:06:28.624 and I thought it was interesting that she was like, 0:06:28.824 --> 0:06:31.624 you guys are the ones that really hook onto the sex. 0:06:31.624 --> 0:06:33.584 She's like, I put out a lot of content and 0:06:33.624 --> 0:06:36.424 that's what everyone really I'm paraphrasing obviously, but she was like, 0:06:36.464 --> 0:06:38.944 this is what everyone really attaches themselves to. So she's like, 0:06:38.944 --> 0:06:41.224 I think you guys are obsessed with sex, not me. 0:06:42.024 --> 0:06:43.744 And I did sit with that for a while and 0:06:43.744 --> 0:06:45.984 I was like, I mean, there's an element of truth 0:06:46.024 --> 0:06:46.224 to that. 0:06:46.744 --> 0:06:50.464 There is, But I do think that she's a smart 0:06:50.504 --> 0:06:52.744 lady and she knows what she's doing. Oh yeah, and 0:06:52.784 --> 0:06:54.704 at the end of the day, sex sell, so you 0:06:54.784 --> 0:06:57.584 know that, yes, maybe you are producing a lot of 0:06:57.624 --> 0:07:00.784 different content. You know what's going to get attention, Well, 0:07:00.904 --> 0:07:03.104 what's going to get yeah, and what's going to get 0:07:03.184 --> 0:07:05.864 covered and talked about. So yeah, it's all well and 0:07:05.864 --> 0:07:06.504 good to say that. 0:07:06.744 --> 0:07:08.824 But I saw a fan also post a fans all 0:07:08.824 --> 0:07:12.504 this word for what this person says. Posted the Manchild 0:07:12.544 --> 0:07:14.304 album cover of her, like you know, with the man 0:07:14.344 --> 0:07:16.304 pulling her hair back, and was like, does she have 0:07:16.344 --> 0:07:19.624 a personality outside sex? And Sabrina Sora and she commented 0:07:19.664 --> 0:07:22.064 and she was basically like, yeah, girl, and my personality 0:07:22.144 --> 0:07:24.784 is really really good. And I think that that's also true. 0:07:24.944 --> 0:07:27.864 Yeah, one hundred percent. I know heaps of people that 0:07:28.064 --> 0:07:31.344 really love sex and over sexualize themselves in their lives 0:07:31.384 --> 0:07:35.424 and they definitely have other hobbies. Yeah, Like, clearly she's 0:07:35.424 --> 0:07:38.064 got other hobbies because she's very successful. 0:07:38.424 --> 0:07:40.664 Yeah, exactly, and she's out. 0:07:40.464 --> 0:07:43.064 And about she's not she is out at over time. 0:07:43.504 --> 0:07:47.184 So when I said who cares, what I meant was like, 0:07:47.384 --> 0:07:51.664 who cares if her whole brand is being over sexualized now? 0:07:51.984 --> 0:07:54.784 And why does that matter to so many people? Like 0:07:55.224 --> 0:07:59.864 who put her up as a feminist anthem icon or whatnot? 0:08:00.424 --> 0:08:02.344 Yeah, I do understand a little bit. I think I 0:08:02.384 --> 0:08:05.664 think it's because people thought that music was potentially moving 0:08:05.744 --> 0:08:08.584 and like that this pop stardom was potentially moving away 0:08:08.624 --> 0:08:12.064 from the Brittany's, the Christina, the Jessica Simpsons, the Mandy Moore's, 0:08:12.064 --> 0:08:14.104 who are a very certain time, all these very thin, 0:08:14.264 --> 0:08:17.384 overly sexualized blonde women like dancing on stage in a 0:08:17.464 --> 0:08:20.824 very particular way. I think, with like Billie Eilish being 0:08:20.824 --> 0:08:22.424 like the biggest star in the world and coming out 0:08:22.424 --> 0:08:24.624 in these baggy outfits because she said she felt comfortable 0:08:24.664 --> 0:08:27.784 in them, like greasy abams, sort of dancing a different way. 0:08:27.784 --> 0:08:30.464 Even Taylor Swift to an extent, kind of pulling that 0:08:30.584 --> 0:08:33.384 back and going in different direction. People thought pop music 0:08:33.424 --> 0:08:36.424 had changed, and then Sabrina came back in l yeah 0:08:36.504 --> 0:08:38.944 exactly with me like very kind of like yeah, being 0:08:38.984 --> 0:08:41.384 a character on stage with her like dragon spied outfits, 0:08:41.384 --> 0:08:43.704 and then people thought it went circled back around, and 0:08:43.704 --> 0:08:45.704 then Sabrina was like, no, no, no, we're going back to this, 0:08:46.224 --> 0:08:49.224 and people have really liked it. So the interesting thing 0:08:49.264 --> 0:08:52.024 is that Manchild, the actual album isn't out yet, and 0:08:52.104 --> 0:08:54.224 so when it comes out, I think it will have 0:08:54.264 --> 0:08:57.544 that amazing storytelling element of like what's happened to her 0:08:57.624 --> 0:08:59.424 in the last couple of years, because it's you know, 0:08:59.464 --> 0:09:01.904 she's got a different level of fandom now, she's got 0:09:01.944 --> 0:09:04.384 a different level of celebrity friends. But also she had 0:09:04.424 --> 0:09:08.024 that really public breakup with Barry Kurugan that. 0:09:08.024 --> 0:09:13.544 Kit starred at a very similar time becoming a household now. 0:09:13.664 --> 0:09:16.384 Yeah, and something happened behind the scenes on that, Like 0:09:16.584 --> 0:09:18.624 I mean a few times she's alluded to it on 0:09:18.704 --> 0:09:21.504 stage because he's from Island, so when she was in Ireland, 0:09:21.744 --> 0:09:24.064 she was like up on stage being like, yeah, Irish man, 0:09:24.144 --> 0:09:26.744 like they're they're really something to be said about them 0:09:26.864 --> 0:09:29.624 kind of thing. But I also, I just wonder, here's 0:09:29.624 --> 0:09:31.664 a theory I've seen online that I'm really interested and 0:09:31.744 --> 0:09:34.144 if it's true, I will be so impressed by her. 0:09:34.464 --> 0:09:37.224 But I don't think it's true. But the theory, it's 0:09:37.264 --> 0:09:39.504 also Sobrina, it's not too late to make it true. 0:09:39.544 --> 0:09:41.744 So go on with that photo that's come out from 0:09:41.784 --> 0:09:43.504 her album, which is the one where she's down on 0:09:43.544 --> 0:09:46.344 all fours on the floor looking sexualized, and. 0:09:46.304 --> 0:09:48.704 The it doesn't like getting their head, you get her 0:09:48.704 --> 0:09:51.984 head because you'd be like, I don't have to do 0:09:52.144 --> 0:09:55.384 not touch it if you pull out one strength, this 0:09:55.584 --> 0:09:56.024 is done. 0:09:56.144 --> 0:09:58.744 Yeah, also kind of my friend mystuff like yeah. 0:09:58.864 --> 0:10:00.504 Then stop them and be like I like it, I 0:10:01.864 --> 0:10:02.424 must fix. 0:10:02.504 --> 0:10:04.624 But yeah, the hair grabing during sex, i'd have to 0:10:04.624 --> 0:10:07.304 I'd have to give notes on that but so, and yeah, 0:10:07.464 --> 0:10:09.224 the guy in the phone is like yanking her hair back. 0:10:09.664 --> 0:10:13.024 But what think is potentially when she actually releases the 0:10:13.064 --> 0:10:15.624 full album, that you'll see the full shot and that 0:10:15.864 --> 0:10:18.864 she's actually the man the suit pulling back her own hair. 0:10:19.544 --> 0:10:23.624 So it's Sabrina Carpenter like dominating herself. So it's like 0:10:23.664 --> 0:10:27.384 her masculine side dominating her feminine side, and it's not 0:10:27.424 --> 0:10:30.344 about and she's decentering men because men aren't even in 0:10:30.384 --> 0:10:31.504 the picture. It's just her. 0:10:31.704 --> 0:10:34.544 That's very a simple favorite having sex with herself. 0:10:34.784 --> 0:10:37.744 Yeah, it's a messed up mood, but I was like, 0:10:37.824 --> 0:10:39.504 oh my god, that's brilliant. 0:10:39.664 --> 0:10:39.864 Yeah. 0:10:39.864 --> 0:10:41.664 The only reason I don't think it's true is like 0:10:42.064 --> 0:10:44.144 because I feel like it's not really alluding to that, 0:10:44.464 --> 0:10:46.104 and that it wouldn't have been leaked like they would 0:10:46.104 --> 0:10:46.984 have kept that undercover. 0:10:47.264 --> 0:10:50.144 It also would be very off brand, because no, I think. 0:10:49.984 --> 0:10:52.104 It'd be on brand for her that kind of like 0:10:52.144 --> 0:10:54.784 being very overtly sexual and releasing this image, but it 0:10:54.824 --> 0:10:56.584 having like a bit of a deeper layer behind it, 0:10:56.624 --> 0:11:00.264 and her playing with people's expectations because she does copple 0:11:00.264 --> 0:11:02.064 what of hate has since she was like a Disney 0:11:02.064 --> 0:11:03.464 star and I think why. 0:11:03.864 --> 0:11:07.784 I genuinely don't understand. She seems like the most well. 0:11:07.824 --> 0:11:10.144 She was involved in a really intense love triangle with 0:11:10.184 --> 0:11:14.024 her own Olivia Rodrigo, who's the other really big pop star, 0:11:14.264 --> 0:11:16.064 and they I can't remember the guy's name. He was 0:11:16.104 --> 0:11:18.224 the star of the show on the Disney Network with them, 0:11:18.224 --> 0:11:20.984 and they both released albums. It's like Driver's License is 0:11:21.024 --> 0:11:23.584 about her. This is very deep Disney law, but it's 0:11:23.624 --> 0:11:26.064 so important. Also, Sabrina Olivia pose for a photo this 0:11:26.144 --> 0:11:29.584 year and so that was a huge situation. So you know, 0:11:29.624 --> 0:11:30.744 the girls aren't fighting anymore. 0:11:30.984 --> 0:11:33.464 Is good because being a teenager, they've both. 0:11:33.344 --> 0:11:35.784 Become global superstars and this guy is like nondescripts, so 0:11:35.824 --> 0:11:38.344 they don't want. Like recently, Sabrina said, I don't think 0:11:38.344 --> 0:11:40.944 about that Driver's License drama of my life anymore. I've 0:11:40.984 --> 0:11:43.144 moved on. So I'll be interested to see when that 0:11:43.264 --> 0:11:46.424 album does come out, if the script has been flipped 0:11:46.424 --> 0:11:46.824 and it's. 0:11:46.704 --> 0:11:48.264 Her love, if she does that. 0:11:48.464 --> 0:11:51.024 If I was her and her team and I saw 0:11:51.064 --> 0:11:54.224 that theory going around online and it wasn't true, I'd 0:11:54.264 --> 0:11:55.904 be like, get back in the studio. 0:11:55.744 --> 0:11:59.584 Let let's reado that. Just like AI her face exactly. 0:12:00.024 --> 0:12:01.064 Let's ai her face. 0:12:01.224 --> 0:12:03.944 It'd be such clover marketing. I don't think it's true, 0:12:03.984 --> 0:12:05.544 but I hope for her because I have very high 0:12:05.584 --> 0:12:08.264 standards for her because I love Sabrina Carpenter. My favorite 0:12:08.304 --> 0:12:10.984 song is Taste followed by Espresso. Then please please, just 0:12:11.024 --> 0:12:13.944 in case you wanted to know, oh uselessen to music. 0:12:14.064 --> 0:12:16.504 Okay, let us know what you all think. Do you 0:12:16.544 --> 0:12:19.104 think that she's pulling her own hair back? Or is 0:12:19.104 --> 0:12:24.464 it a hotty A different a male hotty. Laura has 0:12:24.784 --> 0:12:28.304 some goss about Katy Perry. But before we start, I 0:12:28.344 --> 0:12:30.024 need to ask you. Have you ever seen her in 0:12:30.024 --> 0:12:30.624 real life? 0:12:30.824 --> 0:12:33.384 No? And I'm desperate too. And I'm also really sad 0:12:33.424 --> 0:12:35.064 I didn't get tickets to her austrain For all the 0:12:35.144 --> 0:12:37.304 haters out there who said Katy Perry is over, her 0:12:37.304 --> 0:12:38.824 Australian tool is sold out, I. 0:12:38.744 --> 0:12:41.904 Think she's an incredible performer. I want you to Some 0:12:41.904 --> 0:12:44.104 of the tech talks are quite funny, but it's only 0:12:44.144 --> 0:12:46.664 because you know you're doing some art, you're getting creative, 0:12:46.704 --> 0:12:49.104 you're flying around the stage. Good on you, But I 0:12:49.264 --> 0:12:51.944 just need like, I know, it doesn't matter, looks don't matter, 0:12:52.224 --> 0:12:54.944 but you know how sometimes you see celebrities or famous 0:12:54.944 --> 0:12:56.384 people in real life and you're like. 0:12:56.984 --> 0:12:59.584 Oh, I have never saw her in real life. 0:12:59.664 --> 0:13:02.664 Yeah, And I have never done a double take at someone. 0:13:02.904 --> 0:13:04.264 Did you go to the concert? 0:13:04.464 --> 0:13:04.864 No? 0:13:04.864 --> 0:13:05.064 No? 0:13:05.784 --> 0:13:09.624 What would you story to Taylor Swift? Oh? Oh h 0:13:09.824 --> 0:13:11.784 they had to I was just sitting in front of that, 0:13:11.864 --> 0:13:14.784 so they were all in there. And I have never 0:13:15.464 --> 0:13:18.544 like actually doubled took at someone because they were so 0:13:19.384 --> 0:13:21.184 for Katy Perry. I did it for Katy Perry. 0:13:21.544 --> 0:13:23.784 I would believe that, and like everything. 0:13:23.304 --> 0:13:26.984 About she was beautiful. She was sitting with Rita Orra 0:13:27.064 --> 0:13:32.624 who was also just like just so beautiful real life beauties. 0:13:32.944 --> 0:13:34.464 So it's just like a fun factory run. 0:13:34.664 --> 0:13:35.544 That is a fun fact. 0:13:35.784 --> 0:13:38.904 I'm feel like shit because they're really beautiful in real 0:13:38.944 --> 0:13:40.704 life as well as on screen. 0:13:40.624 --> 0:13:42.664 I know, but also just think of the maintenance that 0:13:42.704 --> 0:13:44.664 their teams are doing to make them look like that. 0:13:44.784 --> 0:13:46.504 But and Katy Perry's been looking really good in the 0:13:46.544 --> 0:13:48.664 last few years. Well, she had this Australian stylist who 0:13:48.664 --> 0:13:50.944 she still has, I believe at Teddiana Woodford, who like 0:13:51.024 --> 0:13:53.984 completely redid her style. That's why every time she's going 0:13:54.024 --> 0:13:56.464 on a red carpet. Everyone was talking about her and 0:13:56.504 --> 0:13:57.984 like her makeover, she's. 0:13:57.824 --> 0:14:01.304 Not talked about enough as one of the world's most beautiful, 0:14:01.344 --> 0:14:03.304 Like if you look at her, she's stunning. 0:14:03.464 --> 0:14:05.184 Yeah, I think I think just some of the negative 0:14:05.184 --> 0:14:08.544 stuff around her recently has overshadowed that. So that's what 0:14:08.704 --> 0:14:11.344 as coming into this tour, the lifetime to her, there 0:14:11.384 --> 0:14:14.184 was obviously a lot of yeah, well there was there 0:14:14.224 --> 0:14:16.824 was a lead up so well, there was the Woman's 0:14:16.824 --> 0:14:24.824 World song that she put out, remember that, No, so 0:14:24.864 --> 0:14:26.704 she she put out that song It's a Woman's World, 0:14:26.704 --> 0:14:28.184 and it was her first big single. 0:14:27.944 --> 0:14:33.024 Oh wow, that's right really proud was produced by the 0:14:33.144 --> 0:14:36.624 man who was accused yeah checking kesher, But it also 0:14:36.744 --> 0:14:40.064 was this really feminist anthem where they took all of 0:14:40.104 --> 0:14:40.824 these like. 0:14:41.384 --> 0:14:43.424 Iconic for mious moments and redid them in the video. 0:14:43.504 --> 0:14:45.304 Clear but everyone thought she was being too much of 0:14:45.304 --> 0:14:49.384 a try hard and like, you know, some parts of 0:14:49.424 --> 0:14:50.104 it didn't land. 0:14:50.184 --> 0:14:52.624 And when you've got the producer that's done that well, 0:14:52.664 --> 0:14:52.824 it was. 0:14:52.824 --> 0:14:55.104 The same producer who worked on her like all of 0:14:55.104 --> 0:14:57.024 her biggest hits. And I think she was like previous 0:14:57.104 --> 0:14:58.384 years when she was like at the top of the 0:14:58.384 --> 0:15:00.584 pop game, So I think that's when she thought she 0:15:00.664 --> 0:15:03.264 was going to recreate that magic. And so that song 0:15:03.304 --> 0:15:06.424 came out and she got absolutely slammed for it, both 0:15:06.464 --> 0:15:08.424 for the song and for the video. Clear people like 0:15:08.464 --> 0:15:10.904 this is so embarrassing. And then she kind of went 0:15:10.904 --> 0:15:13.824 out of spotlight but was looking really she one red carpet. 0:15:13.944 --> 0:15:15.784 So it's a bit like is it evening out? Like 0:15:15.824 --> 0:15:16.744 people are making fun of. 0:15:16.704 --> 0:15:17.384 Her, but I'm hot. 0:15:17.544 --> 0:15:20.224 She's hot, which will always help out in any situation. 0:15:20.624 --> 0:15:23.264 Then the space thing happened, which is kind of hard 0:15:23.344 --> 0:15:25.904 because people do think, and maybe this is true to 0:15:25.944 --> 0:15:27.784 my extent, that a lot of this big world tour 0:15:27.784 --> 0:15:30.664 that she's doing has some space stuff that's in it 0:15:30.704 --> 0:15:33.304 that's not really referenced, and they think it's because she 0:15:33.464 --> 0:15:35.944 thought that was going to be really favorably received, her 0:15:36.104 --> 0:15:37.264 five minute trip to space. 0:15:37.584 --> 0:15:38.784 Oh, and they definitely did. 0:15:38.824 --> 0:15:40.944 They all did, and that yeah exactly. Oh, I mean, 0:15:40.944 --> 0:15:42.824 girl King's there, and you're just like, well, girl King's here, 0:15:42.864 --> 0:15:44.984 Like she always makes the right choice. So I think 0:15:45.024 --> 0:15:47.664 they didn't think it was going to be so globally mocked, 0:15:47.984 --> 0:15:49.944 and so she's had to pull that out of her tour. 0:15:50.344 --> 0:15:54.344 And then there's very space, like it's very sci fi. Still. 0:15:54.584 --> 0:15:55.864 Yeah, again, that was meant to be kind of a 0:15:55.944 --> 0:15:57.904 lead into the space thing. But now she's on stage 0:15:57.904 --> 0:15:59.824 and she's like, don't talk about it. But like I said, 0:15:59.864 --> 0:16:01.504 it's sold out in a lot of places. I've heard 0:16:01.504 --> 0:16:04.424 a lot of people say it's incredible. So that's all happening, 0:16:04.464 --> 0:16:07.064 And obviously she's been in Australia. While she's in Australia, 0:16:07.104 --> 0:16:09.184 all eyes are on her. But at the same time, 0:16:09.744 --> 0:16:12.064 a report has come out from People magazine that she 0:16:12.264 --> 0:16:15.184 and Orlando Bloom, who have been married many years. 0:16:15.064 --> 0:16:15.664 They've got a kid. 0:16:15.704 --> 0:16:18.584 They have a little girl. Her name's Daisy Dove Blooms. 0:16:18.664 --> 0:16:22.464 That cute, very word, Daisy Dove Bloom. Cute. That's why 0:16:22.504 --> 0:16:24.104 when she was up in space, she floated to the 0:16:24.144 --> 0:16:25.784 camera and held up a little Daisy. 0:16:26.504 --> 0:16:29.344 Yeah, so her daughter could be openly mocked at school. 0:16:30.504 --> 0:16:31.984 I feel like the kind of school that kid would 0:16:31.984 --> 0:16:36.864 go to, it's like all everyone's parents like richness. Yeah, exactly, 0:16:37.024 --> 0:16:38.944 so that wouldn't have been a thing. So she's in 0:16:38.984 --> 0:16:41.704 Australia turing at the moment, and this story from People 0:16:41.744 --> 0:16:45.024 magazine came out and one of the reasons why everyone's 0:16:45.064 --> 0:16:47.984 thinking this is potentially true is that, as I often say, 0:16:48.024 --> 0:16:49.824 we don't mean to do pr for People magazine, but 0:16:49.904 --> 0:16:52.824 they do check all their sources before they put something out. 0:16:53.104 --> 0:16:55.984 That's why when celebrities want to release something like Hugh 0:16:56.064 --> 0:16:59.304 Jackman and Sutton Foster, like finally releasing information at their 0:16:59.304 --> 0:17:00.984 relationship and all that sort of stuff, they go through 0:17:00.984 --> 0:17:03.024 people because they had that back channel setup. 0:17:03.344 --> 0:17:04.904 So not the Daily Mail. 0:17:05.224 --> 0:17:07.344 Yeah, it's not like one of those old school tabloids 0:17:07.344 --> 0:17:09.184 where someone in the office will just be like, oh, 0:17:09.224 --> 0:17:11.224 I'll write this and I'll beat this, yeah, and all 0:17:11.264 --> 0:17:13.464 those sorts of things, like they've actually checked. So they 0:17:13.504 --> 0:17:16.464 put out an article saying that Katie Perry and Orlando 0:17:16.504 --> 0:17:21.384 Blooms romance, they said, is navigating troubled waters, which I 0:17:21.424 --> 0:17:22.624 feel like the writer people. 0:17:22.464 --> 0:17:24.384 Make it at any point. 0:17:24.584 --> 0:17:26.544 Yeah, I feel like the writer was probably like, oh, 0:17:26.584 --> 0:17:28.904 this has come from Katie in Orlando's team or a friend, 0:17:28.944 --> 0:17:30.184 so we've got to sort of say it. We don't 0:17:30.184 --> 0:17:32.584 want to say they're breaking up, but they say. An 0:17:32.584 --> 0:17:36.344 insider told People the couple experienced strain in their relationship 0:17:36.624 --> 0:17:40.144 amid the release of her latest album, and another source 0:17:40.184 --> 0:17:43.224 says there is no turning back. They're pretty much done, 0:17:43.304 --> 0:17:45.664 a source tells People, adding that they don't really see 0:17:45.664 --> 0:17:48.664