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Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick.

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Speaker 1: And I'm Cayley McCarran, and we have got a ripper

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Speaker 1: of a show for you today, Spillers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, a lot of heartbreak, a lot of intrigue,

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Speaker 2: a lot of gossip that we're going to weave through.

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Speaker 2: We've got two big celebrity couples that have been the

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Speaker 2: spotlight because allegedly both of their relationships have come to

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Speaker 2: an end for different reasons. So we're going to get

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Speaker 1: Well. First, first, Laura, I want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about the pop star that you have probably heard on

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Speaker 1: the radio lately NonStop. That is our friend, Miss Sabrina Carpenter.

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Speaker 1: She's not our friend at all, but.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, I hear her on the radio. I also

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Speaker 2: play her on a constant loop on my Spotify as

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Speaker 2: I walk toward from work. Really that and musicals. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: she's a boppy girl. I love her music.

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Speaker 1: Can't relate to that at all. Really, Yeah, we'll get

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Speaker 1: into that in a minute though. But Sabrina Kappener's Manchild,

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Speaker 1: which was released a couple of weeks ago and then

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Speaker 1: secured the biggest streaming debut for a female artist on

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Speaker 1: global Spotify this year, so passing Chapel Rones the Giver,

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Speaker 1: which I'm sure you would I would know it if

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Speaker 1: you sung a little bit to me. But I also

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Speaker 1: was kind of like bing bong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, that's a great song. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: of Chapel Rome, but it's a banger of a song.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of people are talking because her music

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Speaker 1: video and the posters and all of the visuals have

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, well, I'm gonna summarize what happens.

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Speaker 1: The video starts with Sabrina hitchhiking across the country with

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Speaker 1: one disastrous man after another, and it's set and filmed

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Speaker 1: in a very sixty seventies so vibe. It's very cool,

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Speaker 1: like it's very visually beautiful, which is a metaphor for

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Speaker 1: going from bad relationship to bad relationship, which you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of gals in their twenties can relate to.

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Speaker 1: So she's catching all these rides with multiple men, and

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Speaker 1: they're all like kind of weird, Like it's very surreal,

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Speaker 1: as if you're having a strange dream. Like there's really

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Speaker 1: impossible vehicles, and at one point she's like in a

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Speaker 1: There's a motorcycle with a supermarket shopping cut bolted to

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Speaker 1: the side. I don't know how much of it is AI,

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Speaker 1: which is part of the problem with art these days.

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Speaker 1: You watch something really cool like that and you think,

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Speaker 1: but how much is AI? I just don't know. And

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Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes while she's singing, and it's

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Speaker 1: not a very good song to be well, I don't

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Speaker 1: very Daisy Duke, very Jessica Simpson in.

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Speaker 2: The books are Made for what Jukes had.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that one like really hot, like but cheeks hanging out,

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Speaker 1: little crop, big blonde curls, absolutely gorgeous, objectively hot for

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Speaker 1: both the female and male gaze. But there is a

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Speaker 2: I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm interesting what you think. I just

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that this song in particular is

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Speaker 1: it's just a summer banger about well, other people think

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Speaker 1: it's a banger. I don't about constantly choosing the wrong

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Speaker 2: Looking into it. Oh, I mean I think definitely looking

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Speaker 2: But it's interesting because this has come out and then as.

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Speaker 1: An oscar, why are you trying to look like Charlie's

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Speaker 2: I love this the two extremes. It's like blonde pinup

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Speaker 2: I think it's interesting, like with the video clip coming

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Speaker 2: Manta where she's like again that very over sexualized pose

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Speaker 2: and she's kind of on her hands and knees, you know,

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Speaker 2: All her music, her video clips, her photos are all

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Speaker 2: these are pop songs, so they're not meant to.

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Speaker 1: Be And who cares if she she wants to be

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Speaker 2: Who gets well? I do under central extent, Like the

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Speaker 2: whole point is like art, whether it's like a pop

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Speaker 2: and so I think that's fine. But I also think

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Speaker 2: but they all have this really interesting element of storytelling,

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Speaker 2: like she loves to do a little film with all

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Speaker 1: That's what I loved the film. Yeah, I thought it

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Speaker 2: Her and Barry Kogan when he was in a video clip,

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Speaker 2: re enacted all these incredible movies in her other video clip,

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Speaker 2: like Death Becomes Her and General Tager was in it,

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Speaker 2: and there was like this beautiful visual storytelling and all

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Speaker 2: and I thought it was interesting that she was like,

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Speaker 2: She's like, I put out a lot of content and

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Speaker 2: that's what everyone really I'm paraphrasing obviously, but she was like,

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Speaker 2: And I did sit with that for a while and

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Speaker 1: There is, But I do think that she's a smart

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, sex sell, so you

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Speaker 1: know that, yes, maybe you are producing a lot of

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Speaker 2: But I saw a fan also post a fans all

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Speaker 2: this word for what this person says. Posted the Manchild

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Speaker 2: pulling her hair back, and was like, does she have

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Speaker 2: a personality outside sex? And Sabrina Sora and she commented

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. I know heaps of people that

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Speaker 1: and they definitely have other hobbies. Yeah, Like, clearly she's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and she's out.

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Speaker 1: And about she's not she is out at over time.

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Speaker 1: So when I said who cares, what I meant was like,

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Speaker 1: And why does that matter to so many people? Like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do understand a little bit. I think I

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Speaker 2: had changed, and then Sabrina came back in l yeah

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Speaker 2: then Sabrina was like, no, no, no, we're going back to this,

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Speaker 2: that amazing storytelling element of like what's happened to her

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Speaker 2: a different level of celebrity friends. But also she had

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Speaker 1: Kit starred at a very similar time becoming a household now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and something happened behind the scenes on that, Like

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Speaker 2: I mean a few times she's alluded to it on

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Speaker 2: But I don't think it's true. But the theory, it's

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Speaker 2: also Sobrina, it's not too late to make it true.

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Speaker 2: So go on with that photo that's come out from

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Speaker 2: her album, which is the one where she's down on

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Speaker 1: The it doesn't like getting their head, you get her

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Speaker 2: Yeah, also kind of my friend mystuff like yeah.

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Speaker 2: Currently an unmarried lady. Do you know where it is? No?

429
00:18:53,464 --> 00:18:55,904
Speaker 1: What, It's just somewhere at home.

430
00:18:55,984 --> 00:18:56,704
Speaker 2: It's somewhere at home.

431
00:18:56,864 --> 00:18:59,664
Speaker 1: I just don't look. Look. I don't like to be touched.

432
00:19:00,504 --> 00:19:03,904
Speaker 1: I wear jewelry out to work sometimes. I just I'm

433
00:19:03,944 --> 00:19:05,184
Speaker 1: not someone that would just wear it at home.

434
00:19:05,184 --> 00:19:06,664
Speaker 2: I just feel a lot better if you said, yeah,

435
00:19:06,664 --> 00:19:08,624
Speaker 2: it's in my second top drawer or something like that.

436
00:19:08,904 --> 00:19:10,024
Speaker 1: It's in my cupboard somewhere.

437
00:19:10,064 --> 00:19:12,504
Speaker 2: Okay, feeling better. I'd love you to check that when

438
00:19:12,544 --> 00:19:14,624
Speaker 2: you go home. But no, she doesn't worry it all

439
00:19:14,664 --> 00:19:16,144
Speaker 2: the time. Kind of I guess fifty to fifty. I

440
00:19:16,144 --> 00:19:18,144
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not really tracking Katie Perry's wedding ring,

441
00:19:18,504 --> 00:19:20,664
Speaker 2: but I feel like she often doesn't wear it on

442
00:19:20,744 --> 00:19:22,544
Speaker 2: red carpets and stuff. If it's not like the vibe

443
00:19:22,544 --> 00:19:24,984
Speaker 2: of her very start. But the difference to them, you.

444
00:19:24,984 --> 00:19:27,064
Speaker 1: Do think that. I'm like, yeah, you need to take

445
00:19:27,064 --> 00:19:30,424
Speaker 1: your ring off, especially if it's quite an ostentatious diamond ring.

446
00:19:30,464 --> 00:19:32,224
Speaker 1: Sometimes it really doesn't go with the outfit.

447
00:19:32,424 --> 00:19:34,264
Speaker 2: Take it off. That's so true. And no one's gonna

448
00:19:34,264 --> 00:19:36,944
Speaker 2: think you're divorced. Well, they obviously will because they do well,

449
00:19:36,944 --> 00:19:38,904
Speaker 2: but hey, it's Pierre. But the difference then is that

450
00:19:38,944 --> 00:19:40,784
Speaker 2: a lot of times where she's seen without it, she's

451
00:19:40,784 --> 00:19:43,384
Speaker 2: with Orlando Bloom, so it's less of a big headline

452
00:19:43,424 --> 00:19:46,304
Speaker 2: making kind of thing, whereas she hasn't been seen with

453
00:19:46,384 --> 00:19:49,544
Speaker 2: him for a while and she's not wearing her ring,

454
00:19:49,704 --> 00:19:52,544
Speaker 2: and there's a story in People magazine and that's all

455
00:19:52,544 --> 00:19:53,544
Speaker 2: the evidence we have.

456
00:19:54,184 --> 00:19:56,544
Speaker 1: I say, when you just said that, you know, the

457
00:19:56,624 --> 00:20:00,504
Speaker 1: sources say that things haven't been dol for a few months. Celebrities,

458
00:20:00,544 --> 00:20:02,624
Speaker 1: I feel like they don't give it enough of a try,

459
00:20:02,824 --> 00:20:05,664
Speaker 1: because a few months doesn't seem like a very long time.

460
00:20:05,784 --> 00:20:07,384
Speaker 2: I know, but a few months since it sort of

461
00:20:07,664 --> 00:20:10,304
Speaker 2: hit the publicity circuit, like it could have been happened

462
00:20:10,544 --> 00:20:13,024
Speaker 2: for a really long time. Okay, you know again, we

463
00:20:13,144 --> 00:20:13,664
Speaker 2: just don't know.

464
00:20:14,064 --> 00:20:16,864
Speaker 1: No, I just feel like celebs. They're used to getting

465
00:20:16,984 --> 00:20:19,104
Speaker 1: everything that they want in their lives being so easy.

466
00:20:19,384 --> 00:20:22,704
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, things are a little bit hard, I

467
00:20:22,744 --> 00:20:26,064
Speaker 1: mean hard. Yeah, Oh fuck this, let's get a divorce.

468
00:20:26,624 --> 00:20:28,264
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know. They've been together for like,

469
00:20:28,304 --> 00:20:31,384
Speaker 2: I don't know, six seven years something like that, exactly. Yeah,

470
00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:34,744
Speaker 2: so they count celep and she's had a rough time

471
00:20:34,744 --> 00:20:36,864
Speaker 2: of it. Let's not forget she was married to Russell

472
00:20:36,904 --> 00:20:38,384
Speaker 2: Brand that poor woman.

473
00:20:38,704 --> 00:20:40,144
Speaker 1: Like, so she went to one of these shows in

474
00:20:40,184 --> 00:20:41,624
Speaker 1: Sydney where he made awful.

475
00:20:41,664 --> 00:20:43,984
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's currently being accused of rape, so she's

476
00:20:44,024 --> 00:20:47,504
Speaker 2: been through him quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. And then

477
00:20:47,584 --> 00:20:49,144
Speaker 2: I actually, can I just say on the record that

478
00:20:49,184 --> 00:20:51,304
Speaker 2: I'll be very sad if they break up because I've

479
00:20:51,304 --> 00:20:53,264
Speaker 2: always felt that they have this like kind of you know,

480
00:20:53,624 --> 00:20:55,304
Speaker 2: cutesy romance.

481
00:20:55,344 --> 00:20:56,984
Speaker 1: Six seven years, that's a great relationship.

482
00:20:56,984 --> 00:20:58,544
Speaker 2: But she has said on the record what she wants

483
00:20:58,544 --> 00:21:00,224
Speaker 2: from a partner. So she went and call her daddy

484
00:21:00,224 --> 00:21:02,184
Speaker 2: and she said, if he cleans the kitchen, I'll give

485
00:21:02,224 --> 00:21:03,864
Speaker 2: him a blowjob, Like it's all I care about. She's like,

486
00:21:03,824 --> 00:21:05,144
Speaker 2: I'll have sex with you or do whatever you want

487
00:21:05,144 --> 00:21:07,584
Speaker 2: if you just clean up after yourself. Maybe he didn't

488
00:21:07,584 --> 00:21:08,224
Speaker 2: clean the kitchen.

489
00:21:08,264 --> 00:21:12,144
Speaker 1: Maybe he did not. Okay, more break up news.

490
00:21:12,424 --> 00:21:14,144
Speaker 2: I know we're sorry to bring you all this sad.

491
00:21:14,504 --> 00:21:15,264
Speaker 1: That's not really well.

492
00:21:15,264 --> 00:21:16,064
Speaker 2: This whe we die not.

493
00:21:16,384 --> 00:21:18,064
Speaker 1: Also, they don't have to be sad.

494
00:21:18,184 --> 00:21:18,744
Speaker 2: That's true.

495
00:21:18,824 --> 00:21:21,384
Speaker 1: You could still be friends, could be no longer romantically

496
00:21:21,824 --> 00:21:22,864
Speaker 1: beautiful way to put it.

497
00:21:23,464 --> 00:21:25,984
Speaker 2: Yes, the other breakup stories circulate at the moment, and

498
00:21:26,064 --> 00:21:28,384
Speaker 2: to be fair, these two never talk about their relationships,

499
00:21:28,384 --> 00:21:31,384
Speaker 2: so it could be nothing. But the world is quite

500
00:21:31,424 --> 00:21:35,544
Speaker 2: certain that after eight years together that Chris Muttin, who

501
00:21:35,624 --> 00:21:37,904
Speaker 2: is the lead singer of cole Play but more famously old.

502
00:21:37,944 --> 00:21:40,464
Speaker 2: I think it's Oneth Paltrow's ex husband and dad Apple

503
00:21:40,504 --> 00:21:43,624
Speaker 2: and Moses. Okay, they have the two children together. Yeah,

504
00:21:43,744 --> 00:21:45,224
Speaker 2: do you know I hate that. I know this the

505
00:21:45,224 --> 00:21:47,904
Speaker 2: information that sticks in my brain. Moses because he's got

506
00:21:47,904 --> 00:21:50,104
Speaker 2: a song called Moses or it's got Moses in it.

507
00:21:50,304 --> 00:21:52,304
Speaker 2: And when she was pregnant with their son, she would

508
00:21:52,304 --> 00:21:54,544
Speaker 2: go and watch him play, and every time the song

509
00:21:54,624 --> 00:21:56,904
Speaker 2: Moses came on, he would start kicking, so they called

510
00:21:56,944 --> 00:21:57,504
Speaker 2: him Moses.

511
00:21:57,824 --> 00:21:58,664
Speaker 1: Oh cute.

512
00:21:58,824 --> 00:21:59,864
Speaker 2: I don't know why I know that.

513
00:21:59,784 --> 00:22:01,464
Speaker 1: But because you're a wealth of celebrity.

514
00:22:01,544 --> 00:22:03,824
Speaker 2: Because I just read things they do so well.

515
00:22:04,144 --> 00:22:06,464
Speaker 1: That they have been dating you for eight years. I

516
00:22:06,544 --> 00:22:08,664
Speaker 1: swear that I thought she was like twenty two.

517
00:22:09,184 --> 00:22:11,144
Speaker 2: Oh no, she's in her thirties. But they've been together

518
00:22:11,144 --> 00:22:13,104
Speaker 2: for but he's like in his late forties. It's like

519
00:22:13,144 --> 00:22:15,864
Speaker 2: quite a So here's the tabloody side of it before

520
00:22:15,864 --> 00:22:17,864
Speaker 2: we get into other side. So one is that they've

521
00:22:17,904 --> 00:22:21,184
Speaker 2: never been super super public. They don't like walk off

522
00:22:21,224 --> 00:22:23,744
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of red carpets together or anything like that.

523
00:22:23,824 --> 00:22:25,664
Speaker 1: Remember, up until a few months ago, I didn't know

524
00:22:25,664 --> 00:22:27,384
Speaker 1: that they were together. I thought she was with Pedro

525
00:22:27,544 --> 00:22:28,264
Speaker 1: Pascal and.

526
00:22:28,384 --> 00:22:30,344
Speaker 2: That was like, oh wow, that was a great deal.

527
00:22:30,464 --> 00:22:31,264
Speaker 1: Yeah.

528
00:22:31,344 --> 00:22:32,784
Speaker 2: I almost wanted to let you come on the podcast

529
00:22:32,784 --> 00:22:33,984
Speaker 2: and put that information out here.

530
00:22:33,824 --> 00:22:35,344
Speaker 1: But no, you know, we love to start romas.

531
00:22:35,464 --> 00:22:37,864
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that would have been a big one.

532
00:22:38,144 --> 00:22:40,224
Speaker 2: But yeah, So they it's been the last couple of

533
00:22:40,264 --> 00:22:41,904
Speaker 2: months that people have started to say, like, are they

534
00:22:41,904 --> 00:22:43,704
Speaker 2: not together? Because even though they never do a lot

535
00:22:43,704 --> 00:22:45,544
Speaker 2: of publicy together, so they never talk about each other

536
00:22:45,544 --> 00:22:48,464
Speaker 2: in interviews, they want red carpets together, anything like that,

537
00:22:48,824 --> 00:22:51,864
Speaker 2: but they always pitch it out like hugging in the street,

538
00:22:51,984 --> 00:22:54,624
Speaker 2: arms around each other all so I think they just like,

539
00:22:54,624 --> 00:22:56,104
Speaker 2: we're gonna go out and live our lives and we're

540
00:22:56,104 --> 00:22:58,544
Speaker 2: gonna get photographed and who cares. And she'll often go

541
00:22:58,584 --> 00:23:00,304
Speaker 2: to his concerts and stuff and like be in the

542
00:23:00,304 --> 00:23:02,464
Speaker 2: background all that sort of stuff. And Gwyneth, of course,

543
00:23:02,504 --> 00:23:05,264
Speaker 2: Gwyneth is a chatty girl and nothing's off the record

544
00:23:05,344 --> 00:23:07,504
Speaker 2: for her has talked about how much she loves having

545
00:23:07,584 --> 00:23:10,104
Speaker 2: Dakota as like a sister wife and how close they are,

546
00:23:10,424 --> 00:23:14,384
Speaker 2: and they've posted photos together, so she's like, really, you know,

547
00:23:14,504 --> 00:23:16,704
Speaker 2: in the fold of the family, Dakota.

548
00:23:16,384 --> 00:23:21,104
Speaker 1: Is just so sarcastic and not wellness. But no, but

549
00:23:21,224 --> 00:23:24,904
Speaker 1: Gwyneth is very very sarcastic, but Dakota is just so

550
00:23:25,144 --> 00:23:28,504
Speaker 1: not goop. It just I really, I guess I've got

551
00:23:28,544 --> 00:23:30,184
Speaker 1: lots of friends with vastly different interests.

552
00:23:30,224 --> 00:23:32,544
Speaker 2: I actually think Dakota is very goop. I actually think

553
00:23:32,544 --> 00:23:34,504
Speaker 2: that she would be very much. She's been raised in

554
00:23:34,544 --> 00:23:36,504
Speaker 2: that very intense Hollywood.

555
00:23:36,064 --> 00:23:37,264
Speaker 1: Work she pretends not to be.

556
00:23:37,464 --> 00:23:39,184
Speaker 2: I think she's Yeah, I think her persona is just

557
00:23:39,224 --> 00:23:41,544
Speaker 2: like I'm just a quirky every girl. But I'm sure

558
00:23:41,584 --> 00:23:44,744
Speaker 2: behind the scenes she's eating like very yeah, she's eating

559
00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:48,384
Speaker 2: kale and having like yeah, and having like, you know,

560
00:23:48,464 --> 00:23:50,504
Speaker 2: the juice of a snail squeeze into her paws and

561
00:23:50,504 --> 00:23:52,304
Speaker 2: stuff like she I think she is I do that

562
00:23:52,384 --> 00:23:54,584
Speaker 2: and I'm not. Yeah, but you're a beauty influencer, so

563
00:23:55,944 --> 00:23:58,144
Speaker 2: I actually think that wouldn't be that. Gwyneth Paltrow is

564
00:23:58,224 --> 00:24:00,464
Speaker 2: very much the world she grew up in. So if

565
00:24:00,464 --> 00:24:03,504
Speaker 2: anyone's out of the lupet's Chris Martin, so she's very

566
00:24:03,504 --> 00:24:06,504
Speaker 2: in that circle. But recently they haven't been pictured together,

567
00:24:06,624 --> 00:24:08,584
Speaker 2: and then the rumor mills started that they've broken up

568
00:24:08,624 --> 00:24:10,824
Speaker 2: with people. They have. They have come out with a

569
00:24:10,824 --> 00:24:12,584
Speaker 2: full statement. That's the thing to say. That's why I

570
00:24:12,584 --> 00:24:14,544
Speaker 2: feel like no one behind the scenes has talked about it.

571
00:24:14,824 --> 00:24:16,264
Speaker 2: So when I say people, I mean like people on

572
00:24:16,304 --> 00:24:17,944
Speaker 2: the street, not people magazine.

573
00:24:17,904 --> 00:24:19,664
Speaker 1: People on the street looking outside their house.

574
00:24:19,784 --> 00:24:24,184
Speaker 2: Yeah, which they do think they've broken up because they

575
00:24:24,384 --> 00:24:26,944
Speaker 2: haven't done even little references to each other for a while.

576
00:24:27,144 --> 00:24:29,464
Speaker 2: They pictured together, and also it's just the rumor mill,

577
00:24:29,544 --> 00:24:32,904
Speaker 2: and people are also saying that it's because the age

578
00:24:32,904 --> 00:24:34,904
Speaker 2: gap has kind of become a bigger thing, but also

579
00:24:34,944 --> 00:24:37,584
Speaker 2: that he was dragging his feet on their wedding. She's

580
00:24:37,624 --> 00:24:39,664
Speaker 2: never said they're engaged. Or anything like that, but it's

581
00:24:39,704 --> 00:24:41,824
Speaker 2: kind of been thought for a long time. But they're engaged,

582
00:24:42,504 --> 00:24:44,544
Speaker 2: so it's out in the world. The interesting thing is

583
00:24:44,544 --> 00:24:46,544
Speaker 2: that they never talk about being together, so they would

584
00:24:46,624 --> 00:24:50,384
Speaker 2: never address a rumor that they were broken up.

585
00:24:50,464 --> 00:24:53,464
Speaker 1: They wouldn't even out themselves as been.

586
00:24:54,024 --> 00:24:57,024
Speaker 2: Seeing addressed so so publicly with such an intensity they

587
00:24:57,024 --> 00:24:58,864
Speaker 2: haven't seen around them before that I'm just thinking, like,

588
00:24:59,024 --> 00:25:01,264
Speaker 2: maybe it's true to an extent.

589
00:25:01,664 --> 00:25:06,184
Speaker 1: And as we were saying, she's been very KOOKI extra cookie, yes,

590
00:25:06,344 --> 00:25:08,184
Speaker 1: and her little publicity.

591
00:25:08,224 --> 00:25:10,104
Speaker 2: So that's the interesting thing that if she was, if

592
00:25:10,144 --> 00:25:12,384
Speaker 2: she wasn't in the public eye at all, I'd be

593
00:25:12,464 --> 00:25:15,184
Speaker 2: kind of maybe less inclined to believe it, because why

594
00:25:15,184 --> 00:25:16,784
Speaker 2: would she come out and do an interview about being

595
00:25:16,784 --> 00:25:19,304
Speaker 2: with someone when she's off the publicity circuit. But she's

596
00:25:19,384 --> 00:25:21,184
Speaker 2: very on the publicity circuit at the moment, and it's

597
00:25:21,224 --> 00:25:23,824
Speaker 2: been a very kind of like very specific way that's

598
00:25:23,864 --> 00:25:27,464
Speaker 2: been done. So she's doing publicity for her new movie Materialists,

599
00:25:27,464 --> 00:25:30,264
Speaker 2: in which she stars with Pedro Pascal. And also.

600
00:25:31,904 --> 00:25:33,984
Speaker 1: Maybe he is her secret boyfriend.

601
00:25:34,144 --> 00:25:36,824
Speaker 2: You think that he broke him up, He certainly did.

602
00:25:37,064 --> 00:25:41,424
Speaker 2: I don't even think that, however, I would love that

603
00:25:41,504 --> 00:25:43,544
Speaker 2: to be true, because we would just dine out on

604
00:25:43,584 --> 00:25:44,544
Speaker 2: that for weeks.

605
00:25:45,584 --> 00:25:48,504
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, what a glorious day for content, Well a

606
00:25:48,744 --> 00:25:50,264
Speaker 1: not a glorious day for Chris Mattin.

607
00:25:50,544 --> 00:25:53,824
Speaker 2: No poor Chris Mauttin or Pedroc Yeah I don't yeah,

608
00:25:53,824 --> 00:25:57,744
Speaker 2: well no Pedro Perscal never publicly has a partner, any

609
00:25:57,824 --> 00:25:59,584
Speaker 2: kind of partner, so we never know what's going on

610
00:25:59,624 --> 00:26:02,264
Speaker 2: with him. He often has his sister coming to all

611
00:26:02,264 --> 00:26:04,264
Speaker 2: their events and stuff. But he and Takota have been

612
00:26:04,504 --> 00:26:07,104
Speaker 2: like pictured at concerts together. In one of them, they'd

613
00:26:07,104 --> 00:26:08,984
Speaker 2: been pitched like on the street together. But they're doing

614
00:26:09,024 --> 00:26:10,944
Speaker 2: press together, so that's kind of fine. He was wearing

615
00:26:10,944 --> 00:26:13,544
Speaker 2: her shirt at one of the concerts, and what she said.

616
00:26:13,424 --> 00:26:15,984
Speaker 1: Just they shmacked him and he couldn't find his own.

617
00:26:16,304 --> 00:26:18,744
Speaker 2: I mean, well, she says, because he was dressed inappropriately

618
00:26:18,784 --> 00:26:20,144
Speaker 2: for the cold weather and she had to give him

619
00:26:20,144 --> 00:26:22,424
Speaker 2: a shirt. But I just I think if they were

620
00:26:22,424 --> 00:26:25,104
Speaker 2: sleeping to here, they maybe just woantn't be so blatant.

621
00:26:25,384 --> 00:26:28,944
Speaker 2: So I one hundred percent don't think that's story. Yeah,

622
00:26:28,984 --> 00:26:30,664
Speaker 2: I mean, or maybe they want to throw us off

623
00:26:30,744 --> 00:26:32,864
Speaker 2: so many things. So she's on this press to a

624
00:26:32,944 --> 00:26:35,344
Speaker 2: for the Materialists, which is a great movie. If anyone

625
00:26:35,344 --> 00:26:37,344
Speaker 2: hasn't seen it yet, it will you just come to cinemas.

626
00:26:37,384 --> 00:26:40,824
Speaker 2: But it's both great and harrowing and beautiful and also

627
00:26:40,904 --> 00:26:43,984
Speaker 2: sometimes ridiculous. But like, I can't stop thinking about this movie.

628
00:26:44,184 --> 00:26:46,744
Speaker 2: And so, but that movie is all about finding the

629
00:26:46,784 --> 00:26:48,504
Speaker 2: one and how do you choose the person you want

630
00:26:48,544 --> 00:26:50,544
Speaker 2: to spend your life with? And do you go like

631
00:26:50,584 --> 00:26:51,024
Speaker 2: do you just.

632
00:26:50,984 --> 00:26:53,584
Speaker 1: Get the one? That's like the modern day hitch oh too.

633
00:26:53,784 --> 00:26:55,224
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone say it like that before. But

634
00:26:55,304 --> 00:26:57,344
Speaker 2: she plays a match maker. Yeah, so she plays a

635
00:26:57,384 --> 00:27:00,784
Speaker 2: matchmaker in a movie Dakota Johnson, and she's got this

636
00:27:00,904 --> 00:27:04,264
Speaker 2: like long term entanglement with Chris Evans, but his character

637
00:27:04,344 --> 00:27:07,024
Speaker 2: isn't right for her. And then she meets Pedro Pascal's character,

638
00:27:07,024 --> 00:27:10,264
Speaker 2: who's like this billionaire, you know, unicorn of a man

639
00:27:10,464 --> 00:27:13,384
Speaker 2: who is looking for a wife, and she starts dating

640
00:27:13,504 --> 00:27:16,064
Speaker 2: him and then it's kind of like this like triangle

641
00:27:16,064 --> 00:27:17,704
Speaker 2: between the three of them and this love story of

642
00:27:17,704 --> 00:27:21,824
Speaker 2: who she should be with Jess like in real life, Well, yeah,

643
00:27:21,904 --> 00:27:25,664
Speaker 2: Chris and Pedro just offer Chris battling it out exactly.

644
00:27:25,744 --> 00:27:27,944
Speaker 2: So she's on the and she's been going so hard

645
00:27:27,984 --> 00:27:30,744
Speaker 2: on the promo tour for this movie. And so she's

646
00:27:30,784 --> 00:27:33,824
Speaker 2: been doing like so many a lot of press, a

647
00:27:33,824 --> 00:27:37,424
Speaker 2: lot of different press, but saying nothing because you can

648
00:27:37,464 --> 00:27:40,104
Speaker 2: see that she has either not that she had answers

649
00:27:40,144 --> 00:27:42,024
Speaker 2: personal questions, but her team has said, like, she's not

650
00:27:42,064 --> 00:27:43,864
Speaker 2: doing any real life questions. So she's doing a lot

651
00:27:43,864 --> 00:27:47,864
Speaker 2: of games and gimmicks and other celebrities podcasts. So she

652
00:27:47,904 --> 00:27:50,664
Speaker 2: went on Amy Pola's podcast, Good Hang. But even then

653
00:27:50,704 --> 00:27:53,064
Speaker 2: she was like, she brought a puppy with her, being like,

654
00:27:53,064 --> 00:27:54,904
Speaker 2: look at the puppy, don't look at me, don't talk

655
00:27:54,944 --> 00:27:55,144
Speaker 2: to me.

656
00:27:55,264 --> 00:27:58,344
Speaker 1: They haven't talked about silly things not yeah.

657
00:27:58,104 --> 00:28:00,224
Speaker 2: And they're having this silly back and forth. And she's been,

658
00:28:00,504 --> 00:28:03,304
Speaker 2: you know, going to doing the talk show circuit, and

659
00:28:03,824 --> 00:28:05,544
Speaker 2: she always has the scene where she comes out in

660
00:28:05,584 --> 00:28:07,544
Speaker 2: a dress and then sits down and then is like

661
00:28:07,664 --> 00:28:10,264
Speaker 2: shocked and horrified that like her dress is really short,

662
00:28:10,384 --> 00:28:12,544
Speaker 2: her boob is falling out or something like that. She's

663
00:28:12,584 --> 00:28:15,144
Speaker 2: done that, which I understand that except me, Yeah, And

664
00:28:15,184 --> 00:28:17,064
Speaker 2: I don't even think she's doing it to show her boob.

665
00:28:17,104 --> 00:28:18,744
Speaker 2: I think she'd actually wouldn't care if the world saw

666
00:28:18,784 --> 00:28:20,144
Speaker 2: her boobs or not. But I think it's just like

667
00:28:20,264 --> 00:28:21,184
Speaker 2: little quirky thing.

668
00:28:21,424 --> 00:28:23,104
Speaker 1: We have seen her boobs, haven't we, Yeah.

669
00:28:23,024 --> 00:28:26,704
Speaker 2: In Fifty Shades all three movies, and they're beautiful. But

670
00:28:26,744 --> 00:28:28,344
Speaker 2: I think it's more so that she was just like

671
00:28:28,384 --> 00:28:30,264
Speaker 2: she comes out with these little things, like she knows

672
00:28:30,264 --> 00:28:32,104
Speaker 2: that that will kind of go through the time and

673
00:28:32,104 --> 00:28:34,144
Speaker 2: so they won't have to ask her any questions because

674
00:28:34,424 --> 00:28:36,664
Speaker 2: she's folding a napkin into her dress and then that

675
00:28:36,704 --> 00:28:39,024
Speaker 2: becomes the viral moment that everyone shares on TikTok and

676
00:28:39,064 --> 00:28:42,064
Speaker 2: then no one's talking about she's the other stuff she is, Well,

677
00:28:42,104 --> 00:28:44,384
Speaker 2: she's been raised in Hollywood. She's like third is her

678
00:28:44,424 --> 00:28:47,264
Speaker 2: mom again, Her mom is Melanie Griffiths, Yeah, and her

679
00:28:47,544 --> 00:28:50,224
Speaker 2: dad is the actor Don Johnson, and then her stepfather

680
00:28:50,384 --> 00:28:53,664
Speaker 2: is Antonio Banderas. But then her grandmother is Tippy Heddrohn,

681
00:28:53,704 --> 00:28:56,864
Speaker 2: who's one of the most iconic old school Hollywood actresses.

682
00:28:56,944 --> 00:28:59,064
Speaker 2: So she's a third generation NEPO baby.

683
00:28:59,104 --> 00:28:59,744
Speaker 1: Oh love it.

684
00:28:59,864 --> 00:29:02,264
Speaker 2: And it shows those genes have been like mixed around

685
00:29:02,264 --> 00:29:04,184
Speaker 2: a few times and they've come out to this like

686
00:29:04,264 --> 00:29:06,184
Speaker 2: just quirky weird girl is She's the.

687
00:29:06,144 --> 00:29:09,744
Speaker 1: One that was like I was homeless, like trying to yeah, yeah,

688
00:29:09,784 --> 00:29:10,144
Speaker 1: you weren't.

689
00:29:10,704 --> 00:29:12,504
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she loves to weave a story.

690
00:29:12,624 --> 00:29:13,064
Speaker 1: She does.

691
00:29:13,144 --> 00:29:15,064
Speaker 2: She's been doing that so she One interesting one that

692
00:29:15,144 --> 00:29:17,544
Speaker 2: she did was with Vanity Fair and she's doing the

693
00:29:17,624 --> 00:29:20,264
Speaker 2: lie Detective test and obviously, like you kind of like

694
00:29:20,304 --> 00:29:22,424
Speaker 2: her and her team must like pre feed them questions

695
00:29:22,424 --> 00:29:25,064
Speaker 2: to ask because and I think she was saving this

696
00:29:25,144 --> 00:29:27,024
Speaker 2: story for it to kind of be this big moment

697
00:29:27,064 --> 00:29:28,704
Speaker 2: on the press tour because she said this.

698
00:29:28,904 --> 00:29:31,464
Speaker 1: You once sent a man who broke your friend's heart

699
00:29:31,544 --> 00:29:35,144
Speaker 1: a gallon of gorilla shit? Can you confirm or deny

700
00:29:35,184 --> 00:29:37,464
Speaker 1: that this happened? I mean, there's no way that he

701
00:29:37,464 --> 00:29:40,984
Speaker 1: would watch this, So yes, I did do that. How

702
00:29:40,984 --> 00:29:43,864
Speaker 1: would one order something like that asking for a friend?

703
00:29:44,144 --> 00:29:50,424
Speaker 2: Shit senders dot com you can order any kind, any size, truthful.

704
00:29:50,704 --> 00:29:51,704
Speaker 1: I didn't know that I have.

705
00:29:52,024 --> 00:29:54,784
Speaker 2: Is that a real place? She sent me stock calm? Look, yeah,

706
00:29:54,784 --> 00:29:58,584
Speaker 2: please just called shit shit senders dot com because I

707
00:29:58,664 --> 00:30:00,384
Speaker 2: thought she must have been joking, Like I've seen the

708
00:30:00,384 --> 00:30:02,184
Speaker 2: clip going around. I love how she's like, he'll never

709
00:30:02,224 --> 00:30:04,224
Speaker 2: watch this. I'm like, he won't have a chance because

710
00:30:04,544 --> 00:30:07,224
Speaker 2: this has been broadcast on like every single social media

711
00:30:07,264 --> 00:30:08,424
Speaker 2: platform probably knows.

712
00:30:08,704 --> 00:30:10,664
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone sent him a bag of shit.

713
00:30:11,024 --> 00:30:13,104
Speaker 2: But gorilla shit is so specific.

714
00:30:13,264 --> 00:30:14,744
Speaker 1: Is it big or stinky?

715
00:30:14,864 --> 00:30:17,704
Speaker 2: I think it would be. I can't save ever is

716
00:30:17,704 --> 00:30:18,104
Speaker 2: it real?

717
00:30:18,784 --> 00:30:22,344
Speaker 1: Okay? Oh my god, that one isn't but okay, okay.

718
00:30:22,544 --> 00:30:26,584
Speaker 1: There is Poopsenters dot com, shit express dot com. Then

719
00:30:26,584 --> 00:30:32,864
Speaker 1: there's a Reddit thread. Somebody keeps she somebody keeps sending

720
00:30:32,904 --> 00:30:37,184
Speaker 1: me shit literally literal shit from poop centers dot com

721
00:30:37,504 --> 00:30:40,864
Speaker 1: and I don't and I don't know who it is.

722
00:30:40,904 --> 00:30:43,384
Speaker 1: And it's been consecutive for the fourth time, and I

723
00:30:43,424 --> 00:30:46,064
Speaker 1: want to sue her harassment. Yet the policy of the

724
00:30:46,104 --> 00:30:49,464
Speaker 1: company keeps the center anonymous. I know you may laugh

725
00:30:49,504 --> 00:30:52,904
Speaker 1: at my case, but I've been getting shit literal sheit

726
00:30:53,064 --> 00:30:53,584
Speaker 1: sent to me.

727
00:30:54,304 --> 00:30:56,944
Speaker 2: That is actually so upsetting I would die, But it's

728
00:30:57,064 --> 00:30:57,744
Speaker 2: so funny.

729
00:30:57,824 --> 00:31:00,904
Speaker 1: I need to find out how much this. Yeah, I

730
00:31:00,944 --> 00:31:02,864
Speaker 1: think that the regular folk can do all.

731
00:31:02,864 --> 00:31:05,264
Speaker 2: I mean, it would have put on the company card,

732
00:31:05,304 --> 00:31:06,504
Speaker 2: like who do we hate? I can think of so

733
00:31:06,544 --> 00:31:07,224
Speaker 2: many celebrities.

734
00:31:07,264 --> 00:31:09,904
Speaker 1: A simple way to send a piece of shit around

735
00:31:09,944 --> 00:31:10,424
Speaker 1: the world.

736
00:31:11,624 --> 00:31:13,784
Speaker 2: I love that there's a market for this. How good

737
00:31:13,864 --> 00:31:14,704
Speaker 2: is that order?

738
00:31:14,744 --> 00:31:14,944
Speaker 3: Now?

739
00:31:15,544 --> 00:31:17,624
Speaker 2: Does it? Can you actually order gorilla shit? Or is

740
00:31:17,624 --> 00:31:18,624
Speaker 2: that off the market? Now?

741
00:31:18,824 --> 00:31:22,304
Speaker 1: Animal? Okay? I can choose an elephant or ele ow.

742
00:31:23,304 --> 00:31:25,624
Speaker 2: I feel like elephant, right, Elephant.

743
00:31:25,264 --> 00:31:27,944
Speaker 1: Shit would be huge. I think cows and also like,

744
00:31:28,064 --> 00:31:29,624
Speaker 1: but cow you could kind of get yourself.

745
00:31:30,264 --> 00:31:31,544
Speaker 2: Elephant should have be much harder.

746
00:31:31,704 --> 00:31:33,584
Speaker 1: You've gotta scoop it up, put it in a bag,

747
00:31:33,624 --> 00:31:34,464
Speaker 1: then take it to the PI.

748
00:31:34,944 --> 00:31:38,064
Speaker 2: I feel like at least that's attainable, like you, I

749
00:31:38,064 --> 00:31:40,664
Speaker 2: mean not in Sydney, but like right, like from my hometown,

750
00:31:40,704 --> 00:31:43,944
Speaker 2: there's cows and fields around. So an elephant you'd have

751
00:31:43,944 --> 00:31:47,184
Speaker 2: to hop the fence at Tronkazoo. Okay, okay, is it

752
00:31:47,224 --> 00:31:48,024
Speaker 2: reasonably priced?

753
00:31:48,144 --> 00:31:50,864
Speaker 1: No, this is a different website with actual prices. Percenters

754
00:31:50,864 --> 00:31:52,824
Speaker 1: dot com, the one that the surf from Reddit was

755
00:31:52,864 --> 00:31:57,784
Speaker 1: upset about. Cow jung so for a court seventeen ninety five.

756
00:31:57,984 --> 00:31:59,104
Speaker 2: That's so reasonable.

757
00:31:59,504 --> 00:32:04,864
Speaker 1: Elephants crap a court eighteen ninety five. Gorilla pooh twenty dollars.

758
00:32:04,984 --> 00:32:06,864
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she didn't even break the budget to

759
00:32:06,904 --> 00:32:07,304
Speaker 2: send that.

760
00:32:07,624 --> 00:32:10,544
Speaker 1: She really there's a combo pack. You can send a

761
00:32:10,624 --> 00:32:12,824
Speaker 1: pack for ninety dollars.

762
00:32:13,144 --> 00:32:15,224
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like she went for the megapack.

763
00:32:15,304 --> 00:32:16,544
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's all three.

764
00:32:16,824 --> 00:32:18,744
Speaker 2: Oh oh, that's beautiful, Gorilla.

765
00:32:18,784 --> 00:32:20,184
Speaker 1: It's like gettingn Elephant Cow.

766
00:32:20,544 --> 00:32:22,384
Speaker 2: It's like a fild where you order the sliders and

767
00:32:22,424 --> 00:32:25,504
Speaker 2: you can get a different burger for each one. It's like, fum, wow,

768
00:32:25,664 --> 00:32:29,264
Speaker 2: I really thought she was lying. I'm sorry to Coda Johnson.

769
00:32:29,264 --> 00:32:30,824
Speaker 2: I thought you were lying about saying the shit, but

770
00:32:30,904 --> 00:32:33,584
Speaker 2: you weren't. And now you've also opened up this world

771
00:32:33,624 --> 00:32:34,224
Speaker 2: to us.

772
00:32:34,064 --> 00:32:37,064
Speaker 1: And we have now given any spiller looking for a yes,

773
00:32:37,784 --> 00:32:39,304
Speaker 1: quite an affordable way to do it.

774
00:32:39,464 --> 00:32:41,984
Speaker 2: And affordable revenge is really what I'm looking for exactly,

775
00:32:42,024 --> 00:32:44,384
Speaker 2: and also low stakes because like there's so many people

776
00:32:44,464 --> 00:32:45,424
Speaker 2: I want it to take.

777
00:32:45,664 --> 00:32:46,824
Speaker 1: Is that a really harassment?

778
00:32:47,104 --> 00:32:50,064
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I think yes, if you keep doing

779
00:32:50,104 --> 00:32:52,144
Speaker 2: it and if you're saying there threatening missage. But there's

780
00:32:52,144 --> 00:32:54,584
Speaker 2: so many people I'd love to take revenge against. But

781
00:32:54,624 --> 00:32:55,784
Speaker 2: I'm so lazy.

782
00:32:55,904 --> 00:32:56,744
Speaker 1: I'm way too lazy.

783
00:32:56,824 --> 00:32:57,984
Speaker 2: Oh I know that what I mean, Like I think

784
00:32:58,024 --> 00:32:59,304
Speaker 2: about it, but then I'm like, oh, I have to

785
00:32:59,344 --> 00:33:00,944
Speaker 2: go do this, like I have to. I can't even

786
00:33:00,944 --> 00:33:03,544
Speaker 2: go to the post office. I can't do revenge. But

787
00:33:03,784 --> 00:33:05,384
Speaker 2: that's so easy, so easy.

788
00:33:05,424 --> 00:33:07,944
Speaker 1: Another one that I did have someone do for me

789
00:33:07,984 --> 00:33:11,064
Speaker 1: as a joke, Yeah, revenge, but was like you send

790
00:33:11,824 --> 00:33:13,904
Speaker 1: like a thing and like just a bunch of glitter

791
00:33:13,984 --> 00:33:17,544
Speaker 1: dicks arrives. Oh, and you open it and it just explodes.

792
00:33:17,824 --> 00:33:20,304
Speaker 2: That's kind of festive though if someone sent me that, though,

793
00:33:20,384 --> 00:33:22,584
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think it's annoying to clean up glitter. But

794
00:33:22,664 --> 00:33:24,704
Speaker 2: I also think if someone sent me that, I'd be like, oh,

795
00:33:24,824 --> 00:33:25,504
Speaker 2: I was wasteful.

796
00:33:25,504 --> 00:33:26,744
Speaker 1: At least who isn't wasted?

797
00:33:26,784 --> 00:33:29,104
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could probably garden there. So she said that

798
00:33:29,224 --> 00:33:31,104
Speaker 2: to distruct us, which it absolutely did.

799
00:33:31,264 --> 00:33:33,904
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, oh my god. Why did she say

800
00:33:33,944 --> 00:33:35,384
Speaker 1: these quirky, weird things.

801
00:33:35,464 --> 00:33:38,184
Speaker 2: It's so we dedicated ten minute ten where.

802
00:33:37,984 --> 00:33:40,144
Speaker 1: We start googling how to send someone shit.

803
00:33:41,064 --> 00:33:43,304
Speaker 2: She's a clever girl, so she's I think she's been

804
00:33:43,304 --> 00:33:44,984
Speaker 2: putting that out there because it must be really if

805
00:33:45,024 --> 00:33:47,464
Speaker 2: what we think is true, and that they are going

806
00:33:47,504 --> 00:33:50,464
Speaker 2: through this really intense breakup after being together for eight years,

807
00:33:50,504 --> 00:33:53,384
Speaker 2: after like you know, according to Goneth Paltrow, her kids

808
00:33:53,384 --> 00:33:56,744
Speaker 2: see her as another mother and they are breaking up. Yeah,

809
00:33:56,784 --> 00:33:59,784
Speaker 2: as another mother and then they are breaking up. That

810
00:33:59,824 --> 00:34:02,264
Speaker 2: would be really intense. But the intensity would be so

811
00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:05,104
Speaker 2: heightened if you're then on oppress to have been asked.

812
00:34:05,024 --> 00:34:07,704
Speaker 1: What people are going to ask, Yeah, but also.

813
00:34:07,624 --> 00:34:09,424
Speaker 2: Being asked like some of the interviews I've seen two

814
00:34:09,464 --> 00:34:11,864
Speaker 2: the more kind of focused ones are like, how do

815
00:34:11,904 --> 00:34:13,184
Speaker 2: you know if you're in love? How do you know

816
00:34:13,224 --> 00:34:14,664
Speaker 2: if you found the one? And that's why she and

817
00:34:14,704 --> 00:34:17,504
Speaker 2: Pedro keep like doing these little cutesy answers.

818
00:34:18,064 --> 00:34:18,864
Speaker 1: As a kid.

819
00:34:20,264 --> 00:34:26,864
Speaker 2: Cokey cokey mm hmm, spelled the way the frog is spelled.

820
00:34:27,664 --> 00:34:35,624
Speaker 2: Cokey see o q u I hyky cock. Yeah, my

821
00:34:35,704 --> 00:34:40,864
Speaker 2: nickname is a little girl was cock fucking idiot? Oh

822
00:34:40,904 --> 00:34:45,624
Speaker 2: my god. But really she's on a press too, talking

823
00:34:45,664 --> 00:34:48,344
Speaker 2: about finding true love while she's potentially lost her true love.

824
00:34:48,624 --> 00:34:50,224
Speaker 1: Oh that, Laura.

825
00:34:50,504 --> 00:34:53,744
Speaker 2: You could not be these little celebs. I feel bad

826
00:34:53,784 --> 00:34:57,184
Speaker 2: for them sometimes, so I do hope that one isn't true.

827
00:34:57,504 --> 00:34:59,264
Speaker 2: I hope kay only do our truet as well. But

828
00:34:59,264 --> 00:35:00,384
Speaker 2: that's the thing, like these.

829
00:35:00,264 --> 00:35:01,984
Speaker 1: Stories just come to everyone could get a lot.

830
00:35:03,144 --> 00:35:05,784
Speaker 2: But I also just sink these sometimes these stories blow

831
00:35:05,904 --> 00:35:08,464
Speaker 2: up with such intensity and they have a lifespan of

832
00:35:08,544 --> 00:35:10,264
Speaker 2: over a year, and they never come to for a

833
00:35:10,984 --> 00:35:13,184
Speaker 2: and then after a while we get we just never

834
00:35:13,544 --> 00:35:16,024
Speaker 2: talk about the fact that we were a pick, that

835
00:35:16,064 --> 00:35:18,504
Speaker 2: this that these couples in our eyes were broken up

836
00:35:18,544 --> 00:35:20,904
Speaker 2: for months and months and months and they're having another kid.

837
00:35:20,984 --> 00:35:23,104
Speaker 2: The other sign that people think they're broken up just

838
00:35:23,304 --> 00:35:25,464
Speaker 2: me is that Chris Martin's also been on tour recently

839
00:35:25,824 --> 00:35:28,304
Speaker 2: and she hasn't been there, which when she's on a

840
00:35:28,384 --> 00:35:29,944
Speaker 2: press to us. When she's on a press tour, she

841
00:35:30,024 --> 00:35:32,424
Speaker 2: doesn't go to his shows. But as he was finishing

842
00:35:32,464 --> 00:35:38,784
Speaker 2: one of his shows, he yelled out, this, don't forget

843
00:35:38,824 --> 00:35:42,944
Speaker 2: to go and see like serious, we love you, we

844
00:35:43,344 --> 00:35:47,304
Speaker 2: think love bless him.

845
00:35:47,344 --> 00:35:49,264
Speaker 1: Why would that be a sign there, well, because he's

846
00:35:49,304 --> 00:35:50,384
Speaker 1: never done that before.

847
00:35:50,664 --> 00:35:53,264
Speaker 2: They don't reference each other in any way, So people

848
00:35:53,304 --> 00:35:55,704
Speaker 2: are thinking, like, you could take it both ways. You

849
00:35:55,704 --> 00:35:58,384
Speaker 2: could take it the way that they have seen the headlines,

850
00:35:58,384 --> 00:36:00,384
Speaker 2: which of course you would even if you're not looking

851
00:36:00,424 --> 00:36:02,944
Speaker 2: because like Dakoda especially doesn't have the social media, but

852
00:36:02,984 --> 00:36:05,744
Speaker 2: your publishers would be telling you that. You would say like, oh,

853
00:36:05,784 --> 00:36:08,384
Speaker 2: I'm going to say that to prove that we're still together.

854
00:36:08,744 --> 00:36:11,384
Speaker 2: But that's so different to their usual playbook. What people

855
00:36:11,384 --> 00:36:13,624
Speaker 2: think has happened is that they have broken up. And

856
00:36:13,744 --> 00:36:15,824
Speaker 2: Chris Martin, very famously good friends with.

857
00:36:15,784 --> 00:36:19,344
Speaker 3: His exes, consciously uncomord and he has said that as

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Speaker 3: we've broken up, but I'm still gonna speak well of you,

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to tell this whole stadium of people

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Speaker 3: to go and see your movie because I know that

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Speaker 3: this is a huge week for you when you're doing

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Speaker 3: promo and I want you.

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Speaker 2: To see it. Either way.

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Speaker 1: Nice, Yeah, it.

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Speaker 2: Is very nice. Well, we'll see I I again. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if they're broken up, but only time will tell.

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Speaker 2: Until then, we have a great way to enact revenge

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Speaker 2: on our enemies. And I feel like that's the takeaway

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Speaker 2: from today.

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Speaker 1: If you ever annoy me, expect to find a bag

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Speaker 1: of shit at your door. So thanks so much for

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