WEBVTT - A Theory About Kate Middleton's Hair & The Secret To Small Talk 0:00:10.622 --> 0:00:13.341 You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 0:00:13.822 --> 0:00:17.182 Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 0:00:17.222 --> 0:00:22.221 that this podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome to 0:00:22.302 --> 0:00:25.061 Mamma Mia. Out loud. It's what women are actually talking 0:00:25.102 --> 0:00:28.462 about on Monday, the sixth of September. I'm Holly Wayne right. 0:00:28.622 --> 0:00:29.582 I think it's the eighth. 0:00:30.022 --> 0:00:30.261 Shit. 0:00:32.502 --> 0:00:36.422 I was trying to look up now that we make 0:00:36.542 --> 0:00:40.222 this podcast also for video, and I never know what 0:00:40.302 --> 0:00:42.582 David is. I would be terrible in one of those 0:00:42.582 --> 0:00:44.782 cognitive tests where people are like, what day is it, Holly? 0:00:44.782 --> 0:00:46.822 What date is it? Holly? No idea, no idea. 0:00:46.902 --> 0:00:50.182 Well, the only reason I know is because of something 0:00:50.262 --> 0:00:52.222 I'm bringing to the show today. But I have looked 0:00:52.222 --> 0:00:56.022 into the data significance. But it is, in fact the eighth. 0:00:55.862 --> 0:00:59.742 She's right, She's right, out louders, this is what women 0:00:59.782 --> 0:01:02.702 are actually talking about, not two days ago, but today, 0:01:02.822 --> 0:01:05.422 on Monday, the eighth of September. And I am Holly Wayne. 0:01:05.222 --> 0:01:07.941 Right, I'm Jesse Stevens, and I am Amelia Last. 0:01:08.262 --> 0:01:11.302 And here is what has made our agenda today. I 0:01:11.342 --> 0:01:13.102 know you knew I was going to talk about this, 0:01:13.262 --> 0:01:17.062 the hair change that swallowed your weekend group chats, I 0:01:17.102 --> 0:01:20.102 have a special royal roundup for you, and yes it 0:01:20.142 --> 0:01:21.782 does include Princess Kate. 0:01:21.982 --> 0:01:26.022 Plus Australian wellness figure Pete Evans has returned and why 0:01:26.062 --> 0:01:28.702 does it feel like he is now a man who 0:01:28.702 --> 0:01:29.702 has truly met his. 0:01:29.782 --> 0:01:34.342 Moment and you're doing small talk wrong. I've learned about 0:01:34.382 --> 0:01:35.542 a new theory about how. 0:01:35.422 --> 0:01:36.062 To fix this. 0:01:36.462 --> 0:01:40.302 But first, in case you missed it, early this morning, 0:01:40.342 --> 0:01:43.142 a total lunar eclipse was visible in much of the world. 0:01:43.182 --> 0:01:47.262 Who got up to see it, ladies not. I think 0:01:47.302 --> 0:01:49.462 it was like three point thirty. It was really I 0:01:49.502 --> 0:01:50.342 saw the. 0:01:50.182 --> 0:01:54.422 Moon outside last night was very impressive. Yeah, that was 0:01:54.462 --> 0:01:56.622 the and I was like, that's enough, that's enough now. 0:01:56.662 --> 0:01:59.102 But then I started getting texts from people saying you 0:01:59.182 --> 0:02:00.782 must go crystals. 0:02:00.222 --> 0:02:00.662 Out, you know. 0:02:00.782 --> 0:02:02.902 I was in Canada one night and they were like, 0:02:02.942 --> 0:02:04.222 you know there's going to be the what do you 0:02:04.222 --> 0:02:07.262 call them, the fancy lights, normal lights the middle last night. 0:02:07.302 --> 0:02:09.662 All we have to do is at one o'clock go 0:02:09.742 --> 0:02:13.901 and look at them. And I was like, that's too warm. 0:02:14.462 --> 0:02:16.782 Did you see that there's this new add out for 0:02:16.822 --> 0:02:19.862 Tourism Australia that's been playing in China, which features the 0:02:19.942 --> 0:02:23.742 Southern lights in Tasmania. No, the only problem is they're 0:02:23.782 --> 0:02:26.302 basically impossible to see and had to be photoshopped in, 0:02:26.422 --> 0:02:30.382 so they are under all sorts of criticism. 0:02:29.262 --> 0:02:32.382 Maybe a little bit. I are interesting. Well, this moon 0:02:32.462 --> 0:02:35.902 really happened. The moon passed through the Earth's shadow, which 0:02:35.942 --> 0:02:39.822 produced a deep red hue, hence why it is called 0:02:39.942 --> 0:02:40.621 the blood moon. 0:02:41.181 --> 0:02:41.822 I love that. 0:02:41.982 --> 0:02:45.102 But the real question is what does the pretty moon 0:02:45.222 --> 0:02:47.862 say about me in my life? That's what everyone is asking. 0:02:48.302 --> 0:02:52.262 Does it mark endings or beginnings or significant shifts? Or 0:02:52.302 --> 0:02:54.142 should I be manifesting or reflecting? 0:02:54.181 --> 0:02:56.022 And what does it mean for my period? Because I 0:02:56.062 --> 0:02:57.941 know the moon's linked to my period in some way. 0:02:58.142 --> 0:02:58.822 So true. 0:02:59.022 --> 0:03:03.862 Well, yeah, that sounds like a superperio. That sounds bad. 0:03:04.462 --> 0:03:08.582 Eclipses are cosmic plot twists in our lives. Obviously, they 0:03:08.622 --> 0:03:12.222 accelerate change and they dissolve anything outdated. Be ready, be 0:03:12.302 --> 0:03:15.782 prepared for some revelations, because they're coming. Be ready to 0:03:15.822 --> 0:03:18.062 be led in a direction your soul wants you to go. 0:03:18.582 --> 0:03:21.982 There's something about alignment with your life's truest path. But 0:03:22.142 --> 0:03:24.222 here is some practical advice that we must follow. 0:03:24.302 --> 0:03:25.982 Do you think that's for like this week now that 0:03:26.022 --> 0:03:28.742 the moon has happened, So like, don't be surprised if 0:03:28.742 --> 0:03:30.102 things get a bit weird this week. 0:03:30.222 --> 0:03:32.822 Exactly, it's going to be a bit chaotic, a bit messy, 0:03:32.902 --> 0:03:33.742 but in a good way. 0:03:33.782 --> 0:03:34.222 I don't know what. 0:03:34.262 --> 0:03:37.142 That's your pads, yeah, exactly right. Yeah, and your period 0:03:37.222 --> 0:03:43.182 undeas maybe some period genes. If something is leaving your life, 0:03:43.422 --> 0:03:47.022 don't chase it. That's if you've got someone who, like 0:03:47.222 --> 0:03:49.462 you're in the middle of a breakup, or something's going 0:03:49.502 --> 0:03:51.022 wrong at work and you feel like you're meant to 0:03:51.102 --> 0:03:53.342 let something go, You're meant to let it go. 0:03:53.742 --> 0:03:56.342 That's so weird because I was driving in this morning 0:03:56.382 --> 0:03:59.942 and I was like, let go, let go see and 0:04:00.022 --> 0:04:00.342 I wasn't. 0:04:00.502 --> 0:04:03.462 It was the blood it was the blood moon whispering 0:04:03.502 --> 0:04:09.502 to you. Also, if you were planning on manifesting, don't manifesting. 0:04:10.022 --> 0:04:13.862 Our job is too surrender, which I feel is lazier 0:04:14.062 --> 0:04:16.622 and it's just more of a vibe. The instruction is 0:04:16.662 --> 0:04:18.822 that we're not meant to do anything. We're just meant 0:04:18.861 --> 0:04:21.501 to sit in like this, let the universe do what 0:04:21.502 --> 0:04:23.582 it's meant to do. You're also the other thing you 0:04:23.662 --> 0:04:25.981 meant to do is look through your photos from last 0:04:26.022 --> 0:04:29.421 September because something significant happened and there's been like a 0:04:29.462 --> 0:04:33.302 full circle thing, so I would do it. Yeah, and 0:04:33.541 --> 0:04:37.142 that's when I got my THERMOMX. No, yeah, it is. 0:04:37.262 --> 0:04:38.942 It is when I got my THERMOMX. So I feel 0:04:38.941 --> 0:04:39.662 like that was a beginning. 0:04:40.022 --> 0:04:42.501 And then she discovered vegetables. Yeah, and then there was 0:04:42.541 --> 0:04:43.502 no stopping. 0:04:43.181 --> 0:04:46.261 Us exactly exactly, and now I am basically Pete Evans. 0:04:46.262 --> 0:04:49.061 So that's all I wish later. 0:04:49.662 --> 0:04:51.861 That is all my blood moon update. 0:04:52.022 --> 0:04:53.861 Oh no, I've immediately got to go and look at 0:04:53.902 --> 0:04:56.581 last September's photos. Maybe we can put something on social Yeah, 0:04:56.621 --> 0:04:59.902 exactly right, friends, I was wrong. You know, I don't 0:04:59.981 --> 0:05:02.141 like to admit it. You know, I don't like to 0:05:02.181 --> 0:05:05.461 admit being wrong, but I was really really wrong about 0:05:05.501 --> 0:05:08.101 something very important that had something to do with the 0:05:08.181 --> 0:05:11.382 royal person's hair color. Now you know I was going 0:05:11.421 --> 0:05:13.222 to talk about this. It's my royal round up for 0:05:13.262 --> 0:05:16.301 the day. A princess has changed her hair and I 0:05:16.381 --> 0:05:18.421 have to deliver a mere culpa because just a couple 0:05:18.462 --> 0:05:20.302 of weeks ago on the show, the first time there 0:05:20.342 --> 0:05:23.222 was an image of Princess Catherine, Princess of Wales through 0:05:23.381 --> 0:05:25.902 a car window a couple of weeks ago that made 0:05:25.902 --> 0:05:28.222 it appear like her hair was sort of yellowish. 0:05:28.022 --> 0:05:28.941 Honey honey blonde. 0:05:29.061 --> 0:05:31.222 Yes, And it was all over the Daily Mail and everything, 0:05:31.262 --> 0:05:33.981 and everyone was saying, oh my God. And I confidently 0:05:34.061 --> 0:05:39.861 said on this show now, I can't really explain to 0:05:39.861 --> 0:05:43.142 you how I know, deep in my soul she did 0:05:43.181 --> 0:05:46.342 not dye her hair blonde. Princess Catherine is no more 0:05:46.381 --> 0:05:49.421 allowed to dye her hair blonde than she is to 0:05:49.462 --> 0:05:50.782 pick her undie's out of her bomb. 0:05:51.061 --> 0:05:53.421 But I saw those pictures of her in the limousine 0:05:53.501 --> 0:05:55.101 or something, and they think that it's blonde. Is it 0:05:55.222 --> 0:05:56.622 just light? The lighting? 0:05:56.902 --> 0:05:59.581 It's a pat picture right through a car window that 0:05:59.702 --> 0:06:03.462 looks like she's gone proper blonde blonde. But a strategic 0:06:03.662 --> 0:06:07.141 leak has already been placed with the Daily Mail that 0:06:07.262 --> 0:06:11.301 says this is just yacht hair. She has spent the 0:06:11.342 --> 0:06:15.021 summer in Greece and she's slowly been lightening her brown 0:06:15.301 --> 0:06:19.181 from chestnut to more caramelli and there's just a bit 0:06:19.222 --> 0:06:24.782 of summer sun on it. But Diana was blonde, yeah, 0:06:24.782 --> 0:06:26.141 but she didn't start off brunette. 0:06:26.462 --> 0:06:28.101 Okay, So it's a royal rule that you can't go 0:06:28.181 --> 0:06:28.782 from brunette. 0:06:28.782 --> 0:06:31.662 Well, I just think it's just very unlikely to have 0:06:31.702 --> 0:06:34.141 such a dramatic hair chakee well until now, right, So 0:06:34.262 --> 0:06:37.541 I was very very wrong because, as everybody listening to 0:06:37.582 --> 0:06:42.261 this knows, on Friday Thursday, their time, she and William 0:06:42.421 --> 0:06:44.782 went to an event I think they were Oh yes, 0:06:44.861 --> 0:06:47.342 they were looking at the newly renovated gardens outside the 0:06:47.421 --> 0:06:49.581 Natural History Museum in London, because that's the kind of 0:06:49.582 --> 0:06:52.981 fun shit that is going to do. And all anyone 0:06:53.022 --> 0:06:55.021 wanted to talk about was the fact that she had 0:06:55.462 --> 0:07:00.222 blonde hair, big hair, the fonty hair, and the internet 0:07:00.262 --> 0:07:02.782 went into meltdown. Yes, what did you two think when 0:07:02.782 --> 0:07:04.382 you first saw it? I'm going to get to in 0:07:04.421 --> 0:07:06.062 a minute to what people were saying, But what did 0:07:06.061 --> 0:07:06.581 you two think? 0:07:06.861 --> 0:07:09.901 Definitely drastic change, and there was a lot of andy 0:07:09.982 --> 0:07:12.782 going around with the images, and a lot of people 0:07:12.862 --> 0:07:17.422 were speculating about wig or extensions or topper all that 0:07:17.502 --> 0:07:20.222 kind of stuff. I felt slightly uncomfortable with some of 0:07:20.262 --> 0:07:24.102 the discourse, although I went, yeah, she probably does have 0:07:24.182 --> 0:07:26.622 some sort of like topper, which is sort of not 0:07:26.742 --> 0:07:28.502 a wig but additional hair. 0:07:28.662 --> 0:07:31.742 Right, Obviously this is a sensitive topic and we're going 0:07:31.782 --> 0:07:34.062 to put this on the table because, as we know, 0:07:34.302 --> 0:07:37.422 in January this year, Princess Catherine said that she was 0:07:37.422 --> 0:07:40.221 in remission from cancer and she had had chemotherapy treatment 0:07:40.302 --> 0:07:43.261 last year, and she has spoken publicly about how She 0:07:43.342 --> 0:07:45.781 called it a roller coaster. She said it was brutal. 0:07:45.862 --> 0:07:48.182 She says that the adjustment to a post treatment life 0:07:48.222 --> 0:07:51.342 has been really difficult, which is something that very many women, 0:07:51.422 --> 0:07:54.902 well people can relate to. And there's no question that obviously, 0:07:55.102 --> 0:07:57.742 the issues around hair with cancer treatment are very sensitive. 0:07:58.262 --> 0:08:00.141 She never appeared to lose her hair, of course, but 0:08:00.462 --> 0:08:02.382 we don't know and nor should we know, what's been 0:08:02.422 --> 0:08:05.901 going on. So there's obviously a sensitivity around discussing this, 0:08:06.062 --> 0:08:09.022 which feels a bit icky. But then on the other hand, 0:08:09.662 --> 0:08:12.942 there is no question that often what a royal or 0:08:12.982 --> 0:08:15.302 We've talked about this with other public figures like politicians, 0:08:15.302 --> 0:08:18.502 with their appearance, they're often trying to have as little 0:08:18.542 --> 0:08:21.302 commentary as possible, like I just look the same every 0:08:21.342 --> 0:08:24.581 time you see me. I'm wearing very boring things. I'm 0:08:24.582 --> 0:08:25.901 not doing you know, I'm not doing this, I'm not 0:08:25.902 --> 0:08:28.222 doing that. I don't want to attract any commentary. And 0:08:28.262 --> 0:08:30.902 this was a big shift, so Kate was not doing 0:08:30.941 --> 0:08:34.182 that with this. Some of the commentary has obviously been 0:08:34.381 --> 0:08:37.421 very icky around it because it hasn't been very complimentary. 0:08:37.902 --> 0:08:40.742 But Amelia, do you think it's fair game for conversation? 0:08:41.102 --> 0:08:41.302 Yeah? 0:08:41.302 --> 0:08:43.062 I think that was really well put, Holly. 0:08:43.182 --> 0:08:45.382 And a lot of the debate that was happening in 0:08:45.382 --> 0:08:49.022 my group chats was about whether or not it was 0:08:49.062 --> 0:08:51.822 a wig. And what I found helpful was someone who 0:08:51.862 --> 0:08:55.142 did some actual reporting on this, and that was Caitlin Colemore, 0:08:55.182 --> 0:08:58.782 who's a hairstylist that Laney gossip called up and this 0:08:58.942 --> 0:09:02.142 was in Laney's newslet of The Squawk, and Caitlin Colemore's 0:09:02.182 --> 0:09:05.102 assessment was that these were extensions, they were not a wig. 0:09:05.542 --> 0:09:07.222 And the reason she said that is because there was 0:09:07.262 --> 0:09:10.662 no lace front visible, so it was Kate's actual hair 0:09:10.742 --> 0:09:13.862 on top, the new blonde hair color on top. And 0:09:13.902 --> 0:09:16.342 then the issue is that the extensions that have been 0:09:16.382 --> 0:09:19.862 clipped underneath had not been executed well, meaning they hadn't 0:09:19.902 --> 0:09:22.222 been brushed through in a way that made them look seamless. 0:09:22.742 --> 0:09:25.142 Now Laney asks the question, and we all know that 0:09:25.262 --> 0:09:28.342 Laney is an expert on the signals that celebrities and 0:09:28.382 --> 0:09:31.502 public figures send in terms of things like their appearance. 0:09:32.102 --> 0:09:34.182 She makes the point that Kate is the future Queen 0:09:34.182 --> 0:09:34.662 of England. 0:09:34.942 --> 0:09:37.862 She has plenty of resources, she has very skilled people 0:09:37.942 --> 0:09:38.742 working with her. 0:09:39.062 --> 0:09:43.022 So the question is why did they not give their 0:09:43.022 --> 0:09:45.902 a game on this really important occasion for someone who's 0:09:45.902 --> 0:09:48.702 going through a lot. And my personal theory on this 0:09:49.022 --> 0:09:51.502 is that I wonder if Kate doesn't want to remind 0:09:51.542 --> 0:09:53.342 us that she's going through a lot behind the scenes 0:09:53.382 --> 0:09:56.462 that we don't know about. In addition to her recovery 0:09:56.462 --> 0:09:59.582 from cancer, there may be other things happening too, and 0:09:59.622 --> 0:10:02.782 it's just a reminder that we don't always know everything 0:10:02.822 --> 0:10:04.902 that's happening in her life, and maybe she wants to 0:10:04.942 --> 0:10:07.342 remind us that she's got more important things to think 0:10:07.382 --> 0:10:09.822 about right now than making sure that her hair is 0:10:09.862 --> 0:10:11.102 executed perfectly. 0:10:11.222 --> 0:10:13.942 This is my theory, as much as it's in any 0:10:13.942 --> 0:10:15.582 way okay for a grown woman to have a theory 0:10:15.582 --> 0:10:18.822 about another grown woman's hair. A while ago, you might 0:10:18.862 --> 0:10:23.382 remember that Kate's press office said, and then sort of backtracked, 0:10:23.382 --> 0:10:25.382 that they weren't going to talk about her clothes anymore. 0:10:25.422 --> 0:10:27.862 Do you remember that I said that it was always 0:10:27.982 --> 0:10:29.862 very standard that you would release the details of what 0:10:29.942 --> 0:10:32.302 a princess or a senior royal was wearing, like what 0:10:32.382 --> 0:10:34.582 designers she's wearing, Da da, Da da, And they kind 0:10:34.582 --> 0:10:36.222 of said, we're going to stop doing that. Then they 0:10:36.342 --> 0:10:38.102 backtracked on it a little bit because there was an 0:10:38.142 --> 0:10:41.182 outcry from people who were very upset about it. But 0:10:41.542 --> 0:10:43.942 a lot of women who've gone through something as serious 0:10:43.982 --> 0:10:46.702 and life altering as Kate has over the past year 0:10:46.782 --> 0:10:50.662 or two come out with realigned priorities, And I sort 0:10:50.702 --> 0:10:53.702 of wonder if Kate is just jack of being the 0:10:53.822 --> 0:10:58.182 perfectly poised, quafft princess at all times and is kind 0:10:58.182 --> 0:11:00.702 of like, all right, so the hair isn't perfect today. 0:11:00.782 --> 0:11:01.582 I don't give a shit. 0:11:01.982 --> 0:11:02.182 You know. 0:11:02.262 --> 0:11:04.782 I haven't done a million things to my face that 0:11:04.822 --> 0:11:07.462 people think I should be doing. I'm wearing clothes I 0:11:07.502 --> 0:11:09.742 was wearing six months ago, which is something she's always done. 0:11:09.782 --> 0:11:12.222 For a start, she's always reworn clothes and things. She's 0:11:12.302 --> 0:11:13.982 kind of going, who gives a shit. I want to 0:11:14.022 --> 0:11:16.782 be here to support causes I care about, talk about 0:11:16.822 --> 0:11:19.742 issues that matter. But the problem is that's all we 0:11:19.822 --> 0:11:21.542 all care about. And when I say we, I don't 0:11:21.542 --> 0:11:23.622 necessarily mean us. But you know, that's all the public 0:11:23.662 --> 0:11:25.261 cares about when it comes to a princess, so it's 0:11:25.342 --> 0:11:28.182 kind of it must be very frustrating if she's like, 0:11:28.782 --> 0:11:30.542 I want to send a message that who cares if 0:11:30.582 --> 0:11:33.302 I didn't brush my hair perfectly? But then that goes 0:11:33.302 --> 0:11:34.062 around the world. 0:11:34.782 --> 0:11:37.582 To extend that theory a little further, I think we 0:11:37.622 --> 0:11:40.822 should remember that William is currently going through a kind 0:11:40.902 --> 0:11:43.502 of renegotiation of what it means to be a royal 0:11:43.622 --> 0:11:46.222 and how many engagements he should have each year. There 0:11:46.262 --> 0:11:49.822 was actually some reporting in Tatler last month that Princess Anne, 0:11:49.862 --> 0:11:52.702 who was seventy five now and who has always done 0:11:52.742 --> 0:11:55.062 the most engagements of anyone in the royal family, is 0:11:55.142 --> 0:11:57.822 annoyed at William. She says he is not doing enough 0:11:57.822 --> 0:11:59.982 engagements and let me get the numbers right here. In 0:12:00.022 --> 0:12:01.902 the last year she did four hundred and seventy four 0:12:01.902 --> 0:12:04.702 engagement oh my god, which is mind boggling when you 0:12:04.742 --> 0:12:05.381 think about it. 0:12:05.902 --> 0:12:08.342 And I talked about this list in his book about 0:12:08.342 --> 0:12:10.622 how when it comes out every the list that Amilia 0:12:10.662 --> 0:12:13.142 is talking about, the royals will get really shitty with 0:12:13.182 --> 0:12:13.582 each other. 0:12:13.782 --> 0:12:16.182 And AD's always at the top. William last year did 0:12:16.182 --> 0:12:18.062 one hundred and thirty five. Now, obviously it was a 0:12:18.182 --> 0:12:19.622 hugely tough year for his. 0:12:19.502 --> 0:12:23.262 Father and wife. Both were dealing with cancer diagnosis. 0:12:22.902 --> 0:12:25.622 Yes, but also more generally, he and Kate have talked 0:12:25.622 --> 0:12:29.142 about for a long time about how they want to 0:12:29.262 --> 0:12:32.622 really focus on the early years of their children's lives 0:12:32.742 --> 0:12:35.142 and give them the kind of care and attention that 0:12:35.142 --> 0:12:38.182 frankly William did not get. They believe that that will 0:12:38.222 --> 0:12:40.942 set them up best for a life in the public eye. 0:12:41.142 --> 0:12:43.462 So this is part of also a renegotiation of what 0:12:43.502 --> 0:12:45.502 it means to be royal, how often should you be 0:12:45.542 --> 0:12:47.462 seen in public? And I think you've got to see 0:12:47.462 --> 0:12:50.942 this hair change as part of that overall renegotiation. 0:12:51.222 --> 0:12:53.782 I wonder if too, I've heard people talk about when 0:12:53.782 --> 0:12:56.542 something really dramatic happens in your life, whether that's a 0:12:56.582 --> 0:13:00.822 diagnosis or a loss that can't necessarily be seen from 0:13:01.062 --> 0:13:05.502 the outside, sometimes you want a visual marker that you've changed. 0:13:05.942 --> 0:13:08.462 So it's the classic getting a fringe after a breakup 0:13:08.582 --> 0:13:11.502 in terms of I don't feel the same anymore. So 0:13:11.542 --> 0:13:15.222 I can completely understand how Kate feels like a totally 0:13:15.262 --> 0:13:18.942 different person if it has literally impacted her hair, which 0:13:19.062 --> 0:13:22.542 I mean, it probably has even you know, that sort 0:13:22.582 --> 0:13:24.982 of of treatment, it would make sense. I would think 0:13:24.982 --> 0:13:26.782 that if you're in the public eye, and even for 0:13:26.822 --> 0:13:29.342 the sake of getting ready more quickly, I would think 0:13:29.342 --> 0:13:31.782 that having extensions or top of the pieces something you 0:13:31.862 --> 0:13:34.542 do all the time. And the other thing that I've 0:13:34.542 --> 0:13:37.302 heard a few hairdressers say is that for women over forty, 0:13:37.422 --> 0:13:39.662 you often see them go to that exact color. And 0:13:39.702 --> 0:13:42.502 the reason they go to that exact color is because 0:13:42.582 --> 0:13:44.142 you don't need to cover grays as much. If you 0:13:44.142 --> 0:13:46.622 have dark brown hair and you're starting to get little grays, 0:13:47.182 --> 0:13:51.022 it's every two weeks you're having to cover them and exactly, 0:13:51.062 --> 0:13:52.702 and so you go to that and you're able to 0:13:52.782 --> 0:13:55.342 kind of mix it in a little bit more So 0:13:55.462 --> 0:13:56.262 that kind of made. 0:13:56.102 --> 0:13:58.742 Sense too out loud as prepare for much Kate hairwatch 0:13:58.862 --> 0:14:02.102 because then on Sunday she was out watching our Wallaroos 0:14:02.462 --> 0:14:04.902 get smashed by the English actually and the rugby and 0:14:04.942 --> 0:14:06.982 it looked like she was brunette again. But then the 0:14:07.062 --> 0:14:09.542 video in the change room with different lighting, Oh, look 0:14:09.702 --> 0:14:11.902 like she was blood again. Brown blood, brown blood. We've 0:14:11.902 --> 0:14:13.942 got whiplash. So just I think we all need a 0:14:14.022 --> 0:14:14.462 chill PILLLP. 0:14:14.502 --> 0:14:16.902 I think as a culture too, there's something about wigs, 0:14:17.142 --> 0:14:20.622 because there is this obsession with men and wigs. So 0:14:20.702 --> 0:14:23.502 Harry styles. There have been rumors for years about his 0:14:23.542 --> 0:14:26.022 hair loss. Yes, about his hair loss. It's all the 0:14:26.142 --> 0:14:28.302 f one. There are certain players where it's like he 0:14:28.382 --> 0:14:32.422 has a topper or whatever. There are like Instagram accounts 0:14:32.462 --> 0:14:35.822 dedicated to it, and I think it's it's almost been 0:14:35.942 --> 0:14:39.222 coded or read. Is this thing about honesty or transparency, 0:14:39.502 --> 0:14:43.302 like that they're being somehow dishonest. Harry has had to 0:14:43.902 --> 0:14:47.462 address it publicly. Yeah, there's this idea that people are 0:14:47.542 --> 0:14:50.502 kind of fooling us, which I think is really unfair 0:14:50.582 --> 0:14:53.142 because you go, how many ways do we all change 0:14:53.142 --> 0:14:55.662 our appearance before we leave the house, But wigs is 0:14:55.702 --> 0:14:56.502 just this kind of other. 0:14:56.742 --> 0:14:58.262 I think that's a really good point. 0:14:58.302 --> 0:15:00.782 And I think that's actually also changing a little bit too, 0:15:00.862 --> 0:15:04.382 because just recently John Cena came out and said that 0:15:04.502 --> 0:15:07.502 when he was losing hair, he got hair transplants and 0:15:07.542 --> 0:15:09.342 then his Hollywood career took off again. 0:15:09.942 --> 0:15:14.502 Yeah, it's big business, the hair transplants. Oh, which brings 0:15:14.542 --> 0:15:16.982 me in a nice segway to my friend Prince Harry, 0:15:17.182 --> 0:15:19.622 who I am convinced has had a hair transplant, but 0:15:19.662 --> 0:15:22.182 that's just my theory. Nothing to see him move along. 0:15:22.542 --> 0:15:24.942 And we all know I was wrong about Kate's blonde, 0:15:25.022 --> 0:15:27.422 so you never know. Anyway, a little bit of Harry 0:15:27.462 --> 0:15:31.022 gossip for my Royal roundup. Watch this week what happens 0:15:31.062 --> 0:15:33.662 in England with Hazard because he's there right and this 0:15:33.742 --> 0:15:36.462 is significant because this is the first time that Prince 0:15:36.462 --> 0:15:39.102 Harry has been back to Britain since he famously lost 0:15:39.142 --> 0:15:40.942 that court case you know where he said that he 0:15:41.062 --> 0:15:44.902 wanted to automatically get the highest level of protection from 0:15:44.942 --> 0:15:47.702 the British police when every time he went to Britain 0:15:47.702 --> 0:15:49.622 and he lost that case and he was really mad 0:15:49.662 --> 0:15:52.022 about it, and he went on the BBC and sprayed 0:15:52.102 --> 0:15:55.062 basically and pretty much accused his family of not caring 0:15:55.062 --> 0:15:57.102 whether he died when he was on their soil. 0:15:56.982 --> 0:15:59.142 And it cost him millions, to cost him millions. 0:15:59.182 --> 0:16:01.742 It was not good. He was going nuclear about it. Anyway, 0:16:01.782 --> 0:16:04.502 he's back and what's interesting is that he's gone back 0:16:04.542 --> 0:16:08.342 for a charity function also the anniversary of the Queen's death. 0:16:08.662 --> 0:16:11.862 But he has gone by for a charity function tonight London, 0:16:11.942 --> 0:16:14.022 time for a charity that his sport's called Well Child. 0:16:14.062 --> 0:16:16.782 He went to that last year too. He's also going 0:16:16.822 --> 0:16:19.662 to another children's charity event where he's expected to announce 0:16:19.662 --> 0:16:22.142 a big donation to this charity in another part of England. 0:16:22.462 --> 0:16:24.622 But what's interesting is all the leaks that are coming 0:16:24.622 --> 0:16:27.222 out clearly from his people, because they're in People magazine 0:16:27.262 --> 0:16:30.422 and everything, are saying Harry is so excited to be there, 0:16:30.742 --> 0:16:32.262 He's going to make the most of it, He's going 0:16:32.302 --> 0:16:34.742 to have fun. They are clearly trying to change the 0:16:34.862 --> 0:16:40.422 tune from sad Harry feeling unloved and unwelcome to happy 0:16:40.462 --> 0:16:42.822 Harry can't wait to be back. But everyone is saying 0:16:42.982 --> 0:16:44.742 is he going to see his dad? It is generally 0:16:44.782 --> 0:16:47.782 believed that he has not seen Charles since February twenty 0:16:47.822 --> 0:16:48.422 twenty four. 0:16:48.622 --> 0:16:50.622 Well, the league's coming out on the other side too, 0:16:50.742 --> 0:16:54.422 because in the Telegraph, which I believe is commonly referred 0:16:54.462 --> 0:16:57.302 to as the Tory Graph because it's quite conservative and 0:16:57.382 --> 0:17:00.342 more royal family and line establishment, there was an article 0:17:00.382 --> 0:17:03.742 saying that he's absolutely not going to meet with Charles, 0:17:04.101 --> 0:17:05.661 and he's certainly not going to meet with William. 0:17:06.022 --> 0:17:06.782 That's not Willy on. 0:17:06.702 --> 0:17:09.821 The Pale, but also not Charles and also make the 0:17:09.821 --> 0:17:12.982 point that since Center Barlay, that charity that he started, 0:17:13.022 --> 0:17:17.101 had the bullying scandal, he's really been casting about and 0:17:17.341 --> 0:17:20.542 he wants to have a kind of royal proxy role 0:17:20.621 --> 0:17:22.622 where he can show up at charities and he can 0:17:22.661 --> 0:17:25.782 do the good works. But Center Barlay's kind of imploded 0:17:25.821 --> 0:17:28.061 on him, and so there's a feeling with this visit 0:17:28.141 --> 0:17:30.222 that he's kind of casting about something new. 0:17:30.502 --> 0:17:32.341 It'd be really sad if he doesn't go and have 0:17:32.381 --> 0:17:34.142 a pop in with King Charle, I know. 0:17:34.262 --> 0:17:36.862 Especially since how much he's been expressing that he wants to. 0:17:38.101 --> 0:17:43.141 In a moment, Australian wellness figure Pete Evans has returned 0:17:43.422 --> 0:17:46.101 and we want to unpack what role he is playing 0:17:46.101 --> 0:17:52.741 in the culture now. Pete Evans, the fifty two year 0:17:52.782 --> 0:17:55.302 old former television chef he used to be on My 0:17:55.422 --> 0:17:58.742 Kitchen Rolls, made a rare public appearance earlier this month 0:17:58.861 --> 0:18:02.061 on a podcast called Get Harder. He was back on 0:18:02.101 --> 0:18:03.581 my Instagram. 0:18:03.182 --> 0:18:04.942 Yeah, all over my socials. 0:18:05.101 --> 0:18:07.342 Yeah to subscribe to the Get Harder podcast. 0:18:07.422 --> 0:18:07.822 No. 0:18:07.821 --> 0:18:10.621 No, I thought that there was probably a side of 0:18:10.661 --> 0:18:13.142 Instagram where Pete Evans still was because I knew he'd 0:18:13.141 --> 0:18:16.901 had his account reactivated, but I hadn't seen him before 0:18:16.901 --> 0:18:19.861 we get to any of that, just to refresh. Evans 0:18:20.302 --> 0:18:24.262 was an acclaimed author and TV personality whose claims about 0:18:24.302 --> 0:18:28.781