1 00:00:10,614 --> 00:00:15,254 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges 2 00:00:15,334 --> 00:00:18,134 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,214 --> 00:00:18,894 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,374 --> 00:00:24,534 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily 5 00:00:24,574 --> 00:00:28,534 Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quikie. There's been reports Australians and other 6 00:00:28,614 --> 00:00:32,094 Speaker 2: activists on board the Global Samud Flotilla to Gaza have 7 00:00:32,214 --> 00:00:36,214 Speaker 2: been allegedly abused and mistreated after their vessels were intercepted 8 00:00:36,214 --> 00:00:40,214 Speaker 2: by Israeli authorities. We'll speak to one Australian activist, family 9 00:00:40,294 --> 00:00:44,254 Speaker 2: and friends about his experience, plus what is my loutial 10 00:00:44,334 --> 00:00:47,694 Speaker 2: face and why is everyone talking about it? Before we 11 00:00:47,734 --> 00:00:49,974 Speaker 2: get there, here's Clare Murphy with the latest from the 12 00:00:50,054 --> 00:00:52,734 Speaker 2: Quickie newsroom for Wednesday, October eighth. 13 00:00:53,014 --> 00:00:56,614 Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. Australian activists in Israeli detention for attempting to 14 00:00:56,654 --> 00:00:59,774 Speaker 1: deliver a to Gaza have been deported to Jordan. The 15 00:00:59,774 --> 00:01:02,454 Speaker 1: Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade have confirmed that seven 16 00:01:02,494 --> 00:01:06,254 Speaker 1: Australians held by Israeli authorities since attempting to bring boatloads 17 00:01:06,294 --> 00:01:09,454 Speaker 1: of aid into Gaza on the Samud flotilla alongside activist 18 00:01:09,534 --> 00:01:13,334 Speaker 1: Greta Dunburg, have been freed. A spokesman for Foreign Minister 19 00:01:13,374 --> 00:01:15,854 Speaker 1: Penny Wong said the government was pleased they've been released 20 00:01:15,854 --> 00:01:20,174 Speaker 1: from detention. Their release follows Australian representations to Israeli authorities 21 00:01:20,214 --> 00:01:24,214 Speaker 1: over their welfare and treatment. Zelda Williams is begging people 22 00:01:24,214 --> 00:01:26,854 Speaker 1: to stop sending her AI videos of her late dad, 23 00:01:26,974 --> 00:01:29,894 Speaker 1: Robin Williams, the Hollywood legend, took his own life in 24 00:01:29,974 --> 00:01:33,214 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen at his California home his thirty six year 25 00:01:33,214 --> 00:01:36,694 Speaker 1: old daughter, saying people choosing to make artificial intelligence videos 26 00:01:36,694 --> 00:01:39,334 Speaker 1: of him is gross. She wrote in a post on 27 00:01:39,374 --> 00:01:42,614 Speaker 1: social media to watch the legacies of real people be 28 00:01:42,734 --> 00:01:45,694 Speaker 1: condensed down to this vaguely looks and sounds like them, 29 00:01:45,734 --> 00:01:48,574 Speaker 1: So that's enough, just so other people can churn out 30 00:01:48,614 --> 00:01:52,374 Speaker 1: horrible TikTok slop. Puppeteering them is maddening. She went on 31 00:01:52,454 --> 00:01:56,734 Speaker 1: to say, you're not making art. You're making disgusting, overprocessed 32 00:01:56,734 --> 00:01:59,534 Speaker 1: hot dogs out of the lives of human beings, out 33 00:01:59,574 --> 00:02:02,334 Speaker 1: of the history of art and music, and then shoving 34 00:02:02,334 --> 00:02:04,694 Speaker 1: them down someone else's throat, hoping they'll give you a 35 00:02:04,734 --> 00:02:08,574 Speaker 1: little thumbs up and like it. It's International Plasma Week. 36 00:02:08,614 --> 00:02:12,054 Speaker 1: The mum of Australia's only child with severe Factor V deficiency, 37 00:02:12,174 --> 00:02:16,374 Speaker 1: urging Aussies to consider donating. Australian Red Cross Lifeblood says 38 00:02:16,374 --> 00:02:19,854 Speaker 1: demand for plasma is soaring, with forty five thousand plasma 39 00:02:19,894 --> 00:02:24,374 Speaker 1: medications and transfusions needed every year. That means seventeen five 40 00:02:24,494 --> 00:02:28,014 Speaker 1: hundred bags of donations are required every week. While Australia 41 00:02:28,134 --> 00:02:30,574 Speaker 1: is one of the top three uses of plasma medications 42 00:02:30,614 --> 00:02:33,294 Speaker 1: per capita in the world, fewer than one percent of 43 00:02:33,334 --> 00:02:37,494 Speaker 1: Australians donate. Brisbane mum Alexandra Dray says her son Joey 44 00:02:37,614 --> 00:02:40,374 Speaker 1: was diagnosed with the rare severe Factor V condition at 45 00:02:40,414 --> 00:02:43,054 Speaker 1: just four months old and it's been a scary ride 46 00:02:43,094 --> 00:02:43,814 Speaker 1: for their family. 47 00:02:44,054 --> 00:02:47,694 Speaker 3: So he pretty much doesn't make plasma naturally and that 48 00:02:47,854 --> 00:02:51,774 Speaker 3: is the protein that clots your blood. So if he falls, 49 00:02:52,374 --> 00:02:56,174 Speaker 3: he's at risk of brain bleeds, muscle bleeds, joint bleeds 50 00:02:56,374 --> 00:03:00,414 Speaker 3: and any internal bleeding. So any kind of knock, particularly 51 00:03:00,414 --> 00:03:02,454 Speaker 3: to his head, we have to rushing straight to emergency 52 00:03:02,534 --> 00:03:06,294 Speaker 3: just as a precaution. He has been receiving plasma since 53 00:03:06,294 --> 00:03:09,454 Speaker 3: the beginning of January this year and with that plans 54 00:03:10,054 --> 00:03:13,774 Speaker 3: he can lead a completely normal life. He's a normal 55 00:03:13,814 --> 00:03:17,174 Speaker 3: little little toddler. It's a lifesaver, it's a life changer, 56 00:03:17,254 --> 00:03:21,334 Speaker 3: it's a life giver. It's everything, in absolutely everything. 57 00:03:21,574 --> 00:03:23,294 Speaker 1: If you're keen to donate, you can reach out to 58 00:03:23,334 --> 00:03:27,054 Speaker 1: Lifeblood on thirteen, fourteen ninety five or head to their website. 59 00:03:27,614 --> 00:03:31,174 Speaker 1: Tennis Snovak Djokovic has thrown up and passed out while 60 00:03:31,214 --> 00:03:34,334 Speaker 1: playing in brutally hot conditions in China, but still went 61 00:03:34,374 --> 00:03:37,414 Speaker 1: on to win his match. After losing a long second set, 62 00:03:37,454 --> 00:03:40,374 Speaker 1: the thirty eight year old appeared to collapse, laying sprawled 63 00:03:40,414 --> 00:03:43,214 Speaker 1: out behind the baseline before being helped back to his 64 00:03:43,334 --> 00:03:45,854 Speaker 1: chair by a trainer. He'd already been treated for an 65 00:03:45,854 --> 00:03:48,374 Speaker 1: achilles issue, with many thinking he wouldn't be able to 66 00:03:48,414 --> 00:03:51,694 Speaker 1: recover from this point. After train has checked his vitals, 67 00:03:51,694 --> 00:03:53,534 Speaker 1: he went on to not only finish the two hour 68 00:03:53,614 --> 00:03:56,494 Speaker 1: and forty one minute match against spaniard U may Mina, 69 00:03:56,614 --> 00:04:00,054 Speaker 1: he won it, skipping the postmatch interview but posting online 70 00:04:00,054 --> 00:04:01,694 Speaker 1: that it was a tough day at the office, but 71 00:04:01,774 --> 00:04:04,254 Speaker 1: luckily he has the greatest support team in the world. 72 00:04:04,614 --> 00:04:08,774 Speaker 2: Thanks Claire. Next, what happened when Israel intercepted this and 73 00:04:08,854 --> 00:04:17,694 Speaker 2: Mudflati well as peace talks continue to end the war 74 00:04:17,774 --> 00:04:22,854 Speaker 2: in Gaza. Humanitarian boats carrying international activists, including Australians, have 75 00:04:22,974 --> 00:04:26,614 Speaker 2: been stopped for trying to break Israel's naval blockade of Strip. 76 00:04:27,414 --> 00:04:30,294 Speaker 2: Known as the Global Samud Flotilla, a group of over 77 00:04:30,374 --> 00:04:34,174 Speaker 2: forty civilian boats carrying around five hundred activists from around 78 00:04:34,214 --> 00:04:38,494 Speaker 2: the world set sail in late August. The flotilla included 79 00:04:38,494 --> 00:04:43,414 Speaker 2: well known activists Greta Tunberg and several Australians. Their aim 80 00:04:43,774 --> 00:04:47,174 Speaker 2: to deliver aid along the forty kilometre coastline of Gaza, 81 00:04:47,374 --> 00:04:51,334 Speaker 2: drawing attention to the situation on the ground, But before 82 00:04:51,374 --> 00:04:54,814 Speaker 2: they could reach Gaza, about seventy nautical miles off the coast, 83 00:04:54,934 --> 00:04:58,614 Speaker 2: the group were intercepted by Israeli forces in international waters 84 00:04:58,894 --> 00:05:03,334 Speaker 2: and detained at the Porterbash DoD. Inside detention, Australian activists 85 00:05:03,374 --> 00:05:09,534 Speaker 2: have reported harsh conditions, claiming physical abuse, beatings and intense interrogations. 86 00:05:09,734 --> 00:05:13,894 Speaker 4: Has reported that Syria has been physically and verbally abused 87 00:05:14,094 --> 00:05:17,374 Speaker 4: to what amounts to torture. He has been the subject 88 00:05:17,374 --> 00:05:20,174 Speaker 4: to threats of sexual abuse. He has had his head 89 00:05:20,334 --> 00:05:23,854 Speaker 4: slammed against the concrete. He has had his shoulder dislocated. 90 00:05:24,014 --> 00:05:27,174 Speaker 4: He has been the subject of sleep deprivation techniques and 91 00:05:27,214 --> 00:05:29,574 Speaker 4: has not slept since he has been arrested. This is 92 00:05:29,654 --> 00:05:34,534 Speaker 4: all reported to Justin to McEwen his mum through DEFAT. 93 00:05:35,454 --> 00:05:38,574 Speaker 2: That's Jess. She's a close friend of Syria McEwen, one 94 00:05:38,614 --> 00:05:42,174 Speaker 2: of the Australians detained by Israel. Jess says the Department 95 00:05:42,214 --> 00:05:44,934 Speaker 2: of Foreign Affairs and Trade have been in contact Suria's 96 00:05:44,934 --> 00:05:48,454 Speaker 2: family visiting him in prison. Jess also said Syria and 97 00:05:48,574 --> 00:05:51,814 Speaker 2: other activists on board had clear intentions for the flotilla. 98 00:05:52,374 --> 00:05:55,534 Speaker 4: They wanted to reiterate as well before they left that 99 00:05:55,574 --> 00:05:58,254 Speaker 4: they don't believe themselves to be heroes. They don't believe 100 00:05:58,294 --> 00:06:02,294 Speaker 4: themselves to be brave. They're incredibly scared, and yet they 101 00:06:02,934 --> 00:06:06,934 Speaker 4: fear of watching this genocide unfold that proved to be 102 00:06:06,974 --> 00:06:09,374 Speaker 4: more powerful than the fear for their own safety. 103 00:06:10,494 --> 00:06:13,254 Speaker 2: Surria's mum, Jacinta, says the last time she spoke to 104 00:06:13,294 --> 00:06:15,614 Speaker 2: her son was not long before the boat he was on, 105 00:06:15,774 --> 00:06:19,374 Speaker 2: the Mia Mia, was intercepted. Suria is now unable to 106 00:06:19,414 --> 00:06:22,894 Speaker 2: contact his family and is reportedly on a hunger strike, 107 00:06:23,294 --> 00:06:25,694 Speaker 2: but he has been able to pass this message onto 108 00:06:25,734 --> 00:06:27,574 Speaker 2: his mum via DEFAT officials. 109 00:06:27,894 --> 00:06:31,134 Speaker 5: He did manage to say to the officialist send the 110 00:06:31,134 --> 00:06:33,334 Speaker 5: message to my mum that don't think of it as 111 00:06:33,334 --> 00:06:36,054 Speaker 5: a hunger strike, think of it as a fast because 112 00:06:36,094 --> 00:06:39,814 Speaker 5: I'm an health worker. Even from inside, he's trying to 113 00:06:40,254 --> 00:06:45,134 Speaker 5: reassure me and that's really sweet. But yeah, we're incredibly worried. 114 00:06:45,494 --> 00:06:48,694 Speaker 2: It's believed seven Australians are on board the flotilla boats. 115 00:06:48,934 --> 00:06:52,174 Speaker 2: Jacinta says their families are deeply worried about how they've 116 00:06:52,174 --> 00:06:54,894 Speaker 2: been treated since Israel intercepted their vessels. 117 00:06:55,854 --> 00:06:58,694 Speaker 5: The families feel a bit desperate. They're not being treated well. 118 00:06:58,894 --> 00:07:00,934 Speaker 5: They've been maltreated. 119 00:07:01,774 --> 00:07:05,294 Speaker 2: Some activists allege they had their hands tied. Others described 120 00:07:05,334 --> 00:07:09,254 Speaker 2: body checks, cold cells, lack of drinkable water, and even 121 00:07:09,294 --> 00:07:12,494 Speaker 2: having to dance in front of guards. Greta Tundberg had 122 00:07:12,534 --> 00:07:15,974 Speaker 2: this to say after arriving in Greece following her deportation 123 00:07:16,094 --> 00:07:19,134 Speaker 2: from Israel. What we came to do with the global 124 00:07:19,214 --> 00:07:23,134 Speaker 2: still levels to step up when our governments failed to. 125 00:07:23,174 --> 00:07:25,174 Speaker 6: Do with their legal obligation. 126 00:07:26,254 --> 00:07:30,134 Speaker 2: Israeli authorities insist all legal rights were fully upheld and 127 00:07:30,334 --> 00:07:34,574 Speaker 2: detainings have been given food, water, restrooms, and humane treatment. 128 00:07:35,294 --> 00:07:38,214 Speaker 2: This isn't the first time the freedom flotilla has attempted 129 00:07:38,254 --> 00:07:42,774 Speaker 2: to deliver aid to Gaza back in September, participants said 130 00:07:42,814 --> 00:07:46,014 Speaker 2: two of their boats were targeted by incendiary devices dropped 131 00:07:46,054 --> 00:07:49,654 Speaker 2: from drones off the coast of Tunisia. The Australian government 132 00:07:49,694 --> 00:07:53,134 Speaker 2: says it's providing consular support to those detained and has 133 00:07:53,174 --> 00:07:57,094 Speaker 2: called for humane treatment of all Australians on board. Deputy 134 00:07:57,094 --> 00:08:00,094 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Richard Miles told the ABC the Australian Government 135 00:08:00,134 --> 00:08:03,934 Speaker 2: has continued to provide consular assistance to the Australians detained. 136 00:08:04,454 --> 00:08:06,974 Speaker 7: We had made it clear that Austrands should not be 137 00:08:07,054 --> 00:08:11,014 Speaker 7: in a position of trying to breach the blockade which exists. 138 00:08:11,174 --> 00:08:13,534 Speaker 7: That was very much a matter in terms of their 139 00:08:13,934 --> 00:08:17,414 Speaker 7: own safety. But in the circumstances that are now there, 140 00:08:17,454 --> 00:08:20,054 Speaker 7: we will continue to provide consona assistance to these people. 141 00:08:20,694 --> 00:08:23,134 Speaker 2: We will of course keep you updated on this story. 142 00:08:23,134 --> 00:08:30,534 Speaker 2: In the QUICKI News headlines A question for the group, 143 00:08:31,134 --> 00:08:33,614 Speaker 2: do you ever just feel like burning it all to 144 00:08:33,654 --> 00:08:36,734 Speaker 2: the ground. Look, it could mean a number of things, 145 00:08:36,894 --> 00:08:40,094 Speaker 2: maybe even what stage of your menstrual cycle you're in. 146 00:08:40,574 --> 00:08:44,254 Speaker 2: Say hello to the luteal phase from TikTok to your 147 00:08:44,294 --> 00:08:47,734 Speaker 2: group chats. The luteal phase has become shorthand for feeling low, 148 00:08:47,974 --> 00:08:51,014 Speaker 2: out of sorts, or as some may say, like burn 149 00:08:51,094 --> 00:08:53,174 Speaker 2: it all down. If I were a president, I would 150 00:08:53,174 --> 00:08:55,054 Speaker 2: literally make it a lie that women are not allowed 151 00:08:55,094 --> 00:08:57,054 Speaker 2: to look at themselves during their loutial fees. 152 00:08:57,214 --> 00:09:00,334 Speaker 7: I am a completely different person a few days before 153 00:09:00,334 --> 00:09:01,654 Speaker 7: my period, But. 154 00:09:01,534 --> 00:09:05,174 Speaker 2: Why does it get such a bad rap. The menstrual 155 00:09:05,214 --> 00:09:09,934 Speaker 2: cycle has four phases, menstrual, follicular, ovulation, and louteal. The 156 00:09:10,014 --> 00:09:13,774 Speaker 2: lutial phase is the final stretch, about two weeks after ovulation, 157 00:09:14,054 --> 00:09:17,774 Speaker 2: when progesterone peaks the uterine lighting preps for pregnancy, and 158 00:09:17,814 --> 00:09:21,854 Speaker 2: then if there's no fertilization, it all drops, triggering menstruation. 159 00:09:23,014 --> 00:09:28,854 Speaker 2: Hormones fluctuate wildly here with rising progesterone and changing estrogen ratios. Basically, 160 00:09:28,894 --> 00:09:33,174 Speaker 2: it can take your body on a wild ride, saw breasts, floating, acne, 161 00:09:33,294 --> 00:09:37,934 Speaker 2: all the good stuff. But wait, there's more. Mentally, it 162 00:09:37,974 --> 00:09:43,174 Speaker 2: can also hit harder think mood swings, irritability, tearfulness, anxiety, 163 00:09:43,294 --> 00:09:47,094 Speaker 2: even social withdrawal. For some, this is the heart of 164 00:09:47,174 --> 00:09:51,454 Speaker 2: PMS or pre menstrual syndrome country. So while the chatter 165 00:09:51,534 --> 00:09:54,374 Speaker 2: lately as people get more in tune with their cycles. 166 00:09:54,414 --> 00:09:57,934 Speaker 2: There's a wider acceptance of self care strategies, whether that's 167 00:09:57,974 --> 00:10:02,014 Speaker 2: taking quiet days, practicing radical compassion for yourself, or even 168 00:10:02,134 --> 00:10:06,014 Speaker 2: pre planning social events to match energetic phases in your cycle. 169 00:10:06,654 --> 00:10:10,134 Speaker 2: To tell us more, we're joined by gynecologist doctor Pavna Kara. 170 00:10:10,654 --> 00:10:14,454 Speaker 2: Doctor have what are the four phases of a menstrual cycle. 171 00:10:15,054 --> 00:10:17,774 Speaker 2: So we start with the menstrual phase, which is when 172 00:10:17,814 --> 00:10:20,454 Speaker 2: you get your period, and typically that's about three to 173 00:10:20,574 --> 00:10:24,414 Speaker 2: five days and that starts your menstrual cycle. The second 174 00:10:24,454 --> 00:10:27,334 Speaker 2: phase is the follicular phase, so this is when your 175 00:10:27,334 --> 00:10:30,334 Speaker 2: body is getting ready to release an egg, so your 176 00:10:30,534 --> 00:10:33,574 Speaker 2: estrogen levels start to rise and during this phase you 177 00:10:33,694 --> 00:10:36,574 Speaker 2: might start to notice things like more energy. And then 178 00:10:36,734 --> 00:10:39,614 Speaker 2: the ovulatory phase is when your body releases an egg, 179 00:10:39,734 --> 00:10:42,774 Speaker 2: so that's when your estrogen levels peak. And the last 180 00:10:42,774 --> 00:10:45,414 Speaker 2: stage is the luteal phase, so this is where your 181 00:10:45,414 --> 00:10:49,094 Speaker 2: progesterone levels slowly start to rise in preparation for a 182 00:10:49,134 --> 00:10:52,814 Speaker 2: pregnancy up until your next menstrual phase again, which is 183 00:10:52,854 --> 00:10:56,534 Speaker 2: where if an egg isn't fertilized, you'll go through another 184 00:10:56,574 --> 00:10:59,734 Speaker 2: menstrual phase and have a period. So beyond trying to 185 00:10:59,934 --> 00:11:02,734 Speaker 2: conceive or maybe trying not to conceive. Why is it 186 00:11:02,774 --> 00:11:05,214 Speaker 2: important to know what phase you're in? 187 00:11:06,054 --> 00:11:08,894 Speaker 6: So previously a lot of people would put down things 188 00:11:08,974 --> 00:11:11,934 Speaker 6: like mood changes or irritability. Into the lead up to 189 00:11:11,974 --> 00:11:15,494 Speaker 6: a period is something like PMS. But nowadays where there's 190 00:11:15,494 --> 00:11:18,174 Speaker 6: more of a push to recognizing what phase of the 191 00:11:18,214 --> 00:11:21,694 Speaker 6: cycle you're in and sort of sinking your lifestyle around 192 00:11:21,774 --> 00:11:25,054 Speaker 6: your cycle, so making it work for you rather than 193 00:11:25,294 --> 00:11:26,534 Speaker 6: letting it lead your life. 194 00:11:26,814 --> 00:11:29,694 Speaker 2: Okay, so the luteal phase is blowing up online at 195 00:11:29,694 --> 00:11:32,574 Speaker 2: the moment people say it's the time before their period 196 00:11:32,654 --> 00:11:34,574 Speaker 2: arrives when they feel like they just need to burn 197 00:11:34,614 --> 00:11:37,854 Speaker 2: everything down, maybe scream into the void. We've also heard 198 00:11:37,854 --> 00:11:41,094 Speaker 2: of things like it being described as the cave phase. 199 00:11:41,494 --> 00:11:44,934 Speaker 2: What's actually happening in your body during the luteal phase? 200 00:11:45,534 --> 00:11:48,014 Speaker 6: So the lyteal phase happens after that egg has been 201 00:11:48,054 --> 00:11:51,734 Speaker 6: released and is usually where progesterone levels are starting to 202 00:11:51,894 --> 00:11:56,094 Speaker 6: rise in preparation for a pregnancy. About a week before 203 00:11:56,134 --> 00:11:59,374 Speaker 6: your period, those progesterone levels will suddenly start to fall, 204 00:11:59,774 --> 00:12:01,854 Speaker 6: and that's when you can start to experience things like 205 00:12:02,014 --> 00:12:06,614 Speaker 6: mood changes, fatigue, irritability, bloating. You can start to feel 206 00:12:06,654 --> 00:12:10,094 Speaker 6: really tired, and so for some people that's a really 207 00:12:10,134 --> 00:12:13,294 Speaker 6: disabling thing and it can mean that they can't really 208 00:12:13,334 --> 00:12:16,054 Speaker 6: function to their full potential. But for other people, it's 209 00:12:16,094 --> 00:12:18,054 Speaker 6: more of a time to kind of zone out. They 210 00:12:18,134 --> 00:12:20,734 Speaker 6: get intense focused, they can calm down a little bit. 211 00:12:20,734 --> 00:12:24,094 Speaker 6: They might focus on things like movement and gentle exercise 212 00:12:24,494 --> 00:12:27,214 Speaker 6: rather than sort of the gung ho activities. 213 00:12:27,054 --> 00:12:30,134 Speaker 2: You mentioned before about there's now more of a movement 214 00:12:30,174 --> 00:12:33,934 Speaker 2: and mindfulness in syncing up our lifestyles and activities that 215 00:12:33,934 --> 00:12:36,294 Speaker 2: were maybe doing. Depending on what part of our cycle 216 00:12:36,414 --> 00:12:38,934 Speaker 2: we're in, what are some of those other mental or 217 00:12:38,974 --> 00:12:42,894 Speaker 2: physical impacts during the other phases of a menstrual cycle. 218 00:12:43,094 --> 00:12:46,374 Speaker 6: So often during the menstrual phase, because you are bleeding, 219 00:12:46,454 --> 00:12:48,654 Speaker 6: you might feel a little bit more tired, want to 220 00:12:48,694 --> 00:12:51,214 Speaker 6: keep to yourself, you know. That's another sort of cave 221 00:12:51,494 --> 00:12:54,574 Speaker 6: period of the phases. During the follicular phase, as your 222 00:12:54,774 --> 00:12:57,414 Speaker 6: estudent levels are rising, you might have a lot more energy. 223 00:12:57,534 --> 00:13:00,054 Speaker 6: You know, when we talk about syncing with things like workouts, 224 00:13:00,094 --> 00:13:02,014 Speaker 6: that might be when you're doing more of your strength 225 00:13:02,094 --> 00:13:04,774 Speaker 6: training and your heavier workouts, or if you're doing your 226 00:13:04,774 --> 00:13:06,254 Speaker 6: work that might be when you have a lot of 227 00:13:06,334 --> 00:13:09,334 Speaker 6: really great ideas and fantastic projects and things like that. 228 00:13:09,694 --> 00:13:13,094 Speaker 6: The ovulatory phase, that's when your eastern levels are really rising, 229 00:13:13,134 --> 00:13:15,134 Speaker 6: so you might get a big surge in wanting to 230 00:13:15,134 --> 00:13:17,134 Speaker 6: do a little bit more around men. You're also that's 231 00:13:17,134 --> 00:13:19,774 Speaker 6: your most fertile window, and then that luteal phase is 232 00:13:19,814 --> 00:13:22,454 Speaker 6: really about sort of winding down at that point. 233 00:13:22,694 --> 00:13:25,334 Speaker 2: So when people talk about that idea of hacking your 234 00:13:25,414 --> 00:13:28,254 Speaker 2: cycle for your own well being, it really can be done. 235 00:13:28,254 --> 00:13:30,414 Speaker 2: You just need to know sort of where you're at 236 00:13:30,534 --> 00:13:30,814 Speaker 2: in it. 237 00:13:31,174 --> 00:13:34,534 Speaker 6: Absolutely, it's all about sort of using your cycle in 238 00:13:34,574 --> 00:13:37,574 Speaker 6: your favor, so using it as a tool for wisdom 239 00:13:37,654 --> 00:13:39,494 Speaker 6: rather than letting it run your life. 240 00:13:39,334 --> 00:13:42,814 Speaker 2: Doctor pav do women who don't bleed or have a 241 00:13:42,894 --> 00:13:45,374 Speaker 2: period still experience these different phases? 242 00:13:45,734 --> 00:13:48,254 Speaker 6: They can, so for some people, their cycles are a 243 00:13:48,294 --> 00:13:50,974 Speaker 6: little bit more irregular, so they don't necessarily run along 244 00:13:51,014 --> 00:13:53,534 Speaker 6: to that twenty eight day cycle. For some people that 245 00:13:53,574 --> 00:13:55,334 Speaker 6: are on the pill, you know, where they're getting a 246 00:13:55,334 --> 00:13:58,374 Speaker 6: constant level of hormone, they may not experience those symptoms 247 00:13:58,414 --> 00:14:01,294 Speaker 6: to that degree. And certainly the period that you have 248 00:14:01,374 --> 00:14:03,614 Speaker 6: in those people that take their sugar pills is more 249 00:14:03,614 --> 00:14:05,774 Speaker 6: of a withdrawal bleed rather than a true period, so 250 00:14:05,854 --> 00:14:09,334 Speaker 6: the symptoms often far less pronounced. But anyone that is 251 00:14:09,374 --> 00:14:12,894 Speaker 6: off mbulating, we'll tend to experience those sort of phases. 252 00:14:12,934 --> 00:14:14,774 Speaker 6: It's just the timing maybe a little bit different. 253 00:14:16,054 --> 00:14:18,094 Speaker 2: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with 254 00:14:18,214 --> 00:14:21,174 Speaker 2: us today. The quickie is produced by me Taylor Strano, 255 00:14:21,294 --> 00:14:24,374 Speaker 2: and Claire Murphy, with audio production by Lou Hill.