1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,304 Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia 2 00:00:15,424 --> 00:00:18,984 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this 3 00:00:19,064 --> 00:00:26,944 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on. From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the 4 00:00:26,984 --> 00:00:30,304 Speaker 1: Spill your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodney and 5 00:00:30,384 --> 00:00:33,104 Speaker 1: I'm m Vernon And for day's we can watch, we 6 00:00:33,184 --> 00:00:35,864 Speaker 1: have a whole bunch of new titles to recommend to you. 7 00:00:36,304 --> 00:00:39,704 Speaker 1: I've got a show I have O. My heart dropped 8 00:00:39,704 --> 00:00:41,904 Speaker 1: into my stomach when I opened the screener for this 9 00:00:41,984 --> 00:00:43,664 Speaker 1: because this new show I have to talk about. The 10 00:00:43,744 --> 00:00:44,904 Speaker 1: steakes was so high. 11 00:00:45,144 --> 00:00:49,424 Speaker 2: Oh, mine stomach didn't drop. I saw this. 12 00:00:49,624 --> 00:00:50,424 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's still good. 13 00:00:50,544 --> 00:00:52,984 Speaker 2: I saw this on my Netflix account and I looked 14 00:00:53,104 --> 00:00:55,784 Speaker 2: right up my alley and if you know me, you 15 00:00:55,904 --> 00:00:58,744 Speaker 2: know exactly where this recommendation is going. 16 00:01:00,024 --> 00:01:02,144 Speaker 1: Yes, So that's what's coming up on Weekend Watch today. 17 00:01:02,264 --> 00:01:04,384 Speaker 1: But first we have to talk about Are Very Infamous, 18 00:01:04,424 --> 00:01:06,104 Speaker 1: and I guess I would say iconic because it's in 19 00:01:06,104 --> 00:01:08,464 Speaker 1: its fifth season now and it's been making headlines for 20 00:01:08,584 --> 00:01:12,264 Speaker 1: well over five years. Always very divided on this show. 21 00:01:12,304 --> 00:01:15,104 Speaker 1: They're either obsessed with it they watch every episode, or 22 00:01:15,144 --> 00:01:17,184 Speaker 1: they hate it and they're like this sends a bad message. 23 00:01:17,224 --> 00:01:20,224 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watch it, and that show is you, 24 00:01:20,624 --> 00:01:21,584 Speaker 1: which is coming. 25 00:01:21,424 --> 00:01:25,984 Speaker 2: By this men Penn Badally, Yes, it's coming to an end. 26 00:01:26,344 --> 00:01:29,824 Speaker 2: So I was obsessed with you when it first started, 27 00:01:29,904 --> 00:01:33,784 Speaker 2: really obsessed because I love Penn Badally. That was the 28 00:01:33,784 --> 00:01:34,944 Speaker 2: Gossip Really what do you like? 29 00:01:34,944 --> 00:01:36,224 Speaker 1: Oh you like him from Gossip Yeah. 30 00:01:36,064 --> 00:01:38,304 Speaker 2: I was a gosp Girl girl and then they made 31 00:01:38,344 --> 00:01:44,464 Speaker 2: him the villain spoilers and I was like, Okay, but 32 00:01:44,664 --> 00:01:46,424 Speaker 2: I feel like because they made him the villain at 33 00:01:46,424 --> 00:01:48,104 Speaker 2: the end of Gossip Girl, it felt like he's just 34 00:01:48,224 --> 00:01:50,504 Speaker 2: Dan from Gossip Girl and this is his new yeah 35 00:01:50,544 --> 00:01:53,824 Speaker 2: alter ego. But I think what intrigued me about you, 36 00:01:53,904 --> 00:01:57,184 Speaker 2: which I felt like was similar for a lot of women, 37 00:01:57,904 --> 00:02:00,504 Speaker 2: was it's similar to how a lot of women love 38 00:02:00,624 --> 00:02:03,984 Speaker 2: listening to true crime. Yeah, it gives you a sort 39 00:02:04,024 --> 00:02:07,144 Speaker 2: of like not comfort, but more like proof when we 40 00:02:07,224 --> 00:02:10,184 Speaker 2: say that we're scared, like it shows us proof that 41 00:02:10,224 --> 00:02:12,424 Speaker 2: we have a right to be scared of certain situations 42 00:02:12,464 --> 00:02:15,024 Speaker 2: and certain people in our lives. And I think you 43 00:02:15,144 --> 00:02:18,584 Speaker 2: were so creatively done in a way where you like 44 00:02:18,624 --> 00:02:20,744 Speaker 2: he was a main character and you hated him, but 45 00:02:20,824 --> 00:02:22,984 Speaker 2: at the same time you also like empathize with him 46 00:02:23,184 --> 00:02:26,224 Speaker 2: and like his background in his childhood and the reason 47 00:02:26,264 --> 00:02:28,784 Speaker 2: why he is like that, and like the women in 48 00:02:28,824 --> 00:02:30,784 Speaker 2: his lives. You remember that season one Shane Mitchell I 49 00:02:30,864 --> 00:02:32,744 Speaker 2: was like, that was the best season ever because also 50 00:02:32,744 --> 00:02:33,584 Speaker 2: pretty little Liars. 51 00:02:33,864 --> 00:02:36,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, your world's coming coming together. 52 00:02:36,864 --> 00:02:39,704 Speaker 2: And then after season three, so I was like a 53 00:02:39,744 --> 00:02:42,384 Speaker 2: die hard fan till season three, and then after that 54 00:02:43,504 --> 00:02:45,624 Speaker 2: it just felt a bit slapstick, like it felt a 55 00:02:45,664 --> 00:02:48,464 Speaker 2: bit overdone. It felt like there's no way that he 56 00:02:48,544 --> 00:02:51,864 Speaker 2: can still be going. And it was really funny watching 57 00:02:51,944 --> 00:02:55,504 Speaker 2: the press happen alongside the seasons, because I feel like 58 00:02:55,864 --> 00:02:57,744 Speaker 2: everyone was so obsessed with him as a person. He's 59 00:02:57,784 --> 00:03:00,824 Speaker 2: like this really good looking guy. He's very charismatic. He 60 00:03:00,904 --> 00:03:04,504 Speaker 2: had the similar I guess, vibe as Adam Brody when 61 00:03:04,544 --> 00:03:07,824 Speaker 2: he was doing Nobody Wants This, And then when his 62 00:03:07,984 --> 00:03:10,784 Speaker 2: character started getting really annoying, it felt like every got 63 00:03:10,784 --> 00:03:12,984 Speaker 2: the bit of an eck from Penn Badglor. Yeah, and 64 00:03:13,024 --> 00:03:14,944 Speaker 2: he's kind of just like laid in the shadows. I 65 00:03:14,944 --> 00:03:15,904 Speaker 2: feel like since then. 66 00:03:16,064 --> 00:03:19,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. When the first season of You came out, 67 00:03:19,304 --> 00:03:21,744 Speaker 1: I thought it was a really interesting, like it's an 68 00:03:21,784 --> 00:03:24,864 Speaker 1: interesting piece of television, Like very compelling. I remember sitting 69 00:03:24,864 --> 00:03:27,584 Speaker 1: down like binging the whole season in one go because 70 00:03:27,584 --> 00:03:30,784 Speaker 1: it was this thing, like it's that kind of true crime, 71 00:03:31,024 --> 00:03:33,744 Speaker 1: serial killer esque story that people love so much. 72 00:03:33,784 --> 00:03:37,424 Speaker 2: But my deal boyfriend, right, Yeah, he's beautiful, he's kind, 73 00:03:37,544 --> 00:03:38,184 Speaker 2: he reads. 74 00:03:38,384 --> 00:03:41,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're seeing like the woman that he's stalking. 75 00:03:41,944 --> 00:03:44,064 Speaker 1: You're seeing like one side of their relationship of them 76 00:03:44,144 --> 00:03:46,304 Speaker 1: having this like meet cu Like one part of you 77 00:03:46,424 --> 00:03:48,624 Speaker 1: is very much a rom com like single goal living 78 00:03:48,664 --> 00:03:51,384 Speaker 1: in the city, big beautiful apartment. How does she for that? 79 00:03:51,464 --> 00:03:53,944 Speaker 1: Don't ask questions? And then she meets this guy and 80 00:03:53,984 --> 00:03:56,384 Speaker 1: he's in a bookstore and it's all very lovey WC. 81 00:03:56,504 --> 00:03:58,344 Speaker 1: There's that part of the story and then the other 82 00:03:58,424 --> 00:04:01,944 Speaker 1: part that you're seeing him stalk her through his eyes 83 00:04:02,024 --> 00:04:03,864 Speaker 1: and you're seeing all of that and you're getting that 84 00:04:03,944 --> 00:04:06,624 Speaker 1: voice over and his narration on the bit of the end, 85 00:04:06,664 --> 00:04:08,584 Speaker 1: where again I mean we're talking about season four here, 86 00:04:08,624 --> 00:04:11,064 Speaker 1: so just like littered with spoilers all the through obviously 87 00:04:11,064 --> 00:04:13,264 Speaker 1: the bit of the end when she's locked in the 88 00:04:13,304 --> 00:04:15,384 Speaker 1: glass page under and like she nearly. 89 00:04:15,224 --> 00:04:17,904 Speaker 2: Gets away, she really gets away. 90 00:04:17,984 --> 00:04:19,424 Speaker 1: And then it kills her, and then he moves on 91 00:04:19,464 --> 00:04:21,864 Speaker 1: and kills multiple other people throughout the whole show. So 92 00:04:22,224 --> 00:04:24,784 Speaker 1: I started falling off a bit as the seasons went on. Also, 93 00:04:24,824 --> 00:04:26,744 Speaker 1: I wrote a really negative review about it when it 94 00:04:26,744 --> 00:04:28,904 Speaker 1: came out, only because it just was at this time 95 00:04:28,944 --> 00:04:32,864 Speaker 1: where it was that Pete kind of fetishizing like young 96 00:04:32,904 --> 00:04:35,944 Speaker 1: beautiful woman being brutally killed on TV, which is obviously 97 00:04:35,984 --> 00:04:37,704 Speaker 1: still a thing now, and it's still a thing in podcasts, 98 00:04:37,704 --> 00:04:39,664 Speaker 1: it's some thing in books, this thing everywhere, but it 99 00:04:39,704 --> 00:04:42,704 Speaker 1: was at a moment where it was just so prominent and 100 00:04:42,744 --> 00:04:44,344 Speaker 1: no one was really saying anything about it, and I 101 00:04:44,384 --> 00:04:46,464 Speaker 1: was like, why are we kind of like holding this 102 00:04:46,584 --> 00:04:49,664 Speaker 1: up as like the epitome of entertainment? Yeah, when it's 103 00:04:49,704 --> 00:04:51,744 Speaker 1: also starting to feel a little dull. That's always its 104 00:04:51,784 --> 00:04:55,144 Speaker 1: biggest crime. I'll forgive anything if it's super entertaining, like 105 00:04:55,344 --> 00:04:57,344 Speaker 1: none of my high horse about anything that is like 106 00:04:57,464 --> 00:04:59,824 Speaker 1: really compelling, but it does start to get a bit 107 00:04:59,944 --> 00:05:02,424 Speaker 1: like overly played out, and I felt. 108 00:05:02,144 --> 00:05:02,544 Speaker 2: That with you. 109 00:05:02,624 --> 00:05:04,144 Speaker 1: But it's coming into season five and I think a 110 00:05:04,144 --> 00:05:05,744 Speaker 1: lot of people who have dropped off, like you might 111 00:05:05,784 --> 00:05:06,864 Speaker 1: want to jump back in now. 112 00:05:07,024 --> 00:05:07,864 Speaker 2: I definitely will be. 113 00:05:08,024 --> 00:05:10,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, because at the end of season four, we had 114 00:05:10,464 --> 00:05:13,064 Speaker 1: this idea with Joe, he was confronting, like there's this 115 00:05:13,104 --> 00:05:14,984 Speaker 1: other serial killer, and then it turned out it was 116 00:05:15,024 --> 00:05:17,664 Speaker 1: like a very fight club esque sequence where you found 117 00:05:17,664 --> 00:05:20,144 Speaker 1: out that he wasn't real. He was a figment of 118 00:05:20,184 --> 00:05:22,664 Speaker 1: his imagination. So it's kind of this idea that as 119 00:05:22,744 --> 00:05:24,264 Speaker 1: much as all the way the thing about you is, 120 00:05:24,304 --> 00:05:26,464 Speaker 1: like all the way through, Joe's been like I'm a 121 00:05:26,464 --> 00:05:28,824 Speaker 1: good guy. It is the other women that are doing 122 00:05:28,824 --> 00:05:30,944 Speaker 1: this stuff to me, or like he helds people accountable 123 00:05:30,944 --> 00:05:32,864 Speaker 1: and stuff, but now you kind of see like he 124 00:05:32,904 --> 00:05:34,144 Speaker 1: just really is a serial killer. 125 00:05:34,264 --> 00:05:35,304 Speaker 2: He's just a loser. 126 00:05:36,024 --> 00:05:36,224 Speaker 1: Yeah. 127 00:05:36,264 --> 00:05:38,944 Speaker 2: I feel like also fans who are die hard fans 128 00:05:38,944 --> 00:05:41,104 Speaker 2: of this show, I think we all want the same 129 00:05:41,184 --> 00:05:43,704 Speaker 2: outcome from season five. I think we want him dead. 130 00:05:44,184 --> 00:05:45,824 Speaker 1: That's what a lot of people think. And I guess 131 00:05:45,824 --> 00:05:47,784 Speaker 1: that does seem like where it has to end, right 132 00:05:47,904 --> 00:05:50,104 Speaker 1: because at the end of season four we saw him 133 00:05:50,144 --> 00:05:52,904 Speaker 1: and Kate, which is his current kind of love interest. 134 00:05:53,304 --> 00:05:55,184 Speaker 1: He's sort of come out like he's back using his 135 00:05:55,264 --> 00:05:57,424 Speaker 1: real name, he's back in his reel identity. They're doing 136 00:05:57,464 --> 00:06:00,784 Speaker 1: all these press rounds to kind of explain what has happened, 137 00:06:01,144 --> 00:06:03,544 Speaker 1: and like journalists are starting to probe into Joe's past, 138 00:06:03,584 --> 00:06:06,064 Speaker 1: which is like a bit uncomfortable. They've also set up 139 00:06:06,104 --> 00:06:08,504 Speaker 1: this foundation. They're like, we're gonna open art schools in 140 00:06:08,504 --> 00:06:10,664 Speaker 1: New York and London. And then Joe's like, like he's 141 00:06:10,664 --> 00:06:13,664 Speaker 1: spontaneously just bought a bookshop and that's closing down and 142 00:06:13,664 --> 00:06:15,384 Speaker 1: everyone's like, is it the bookshop from the first season? 143 00:06:15,424 --> 00:06:17,584 Speaker 1: So you've got him back in his real life and 144 00:06:17,624 --> 00:06:19,344 Speaker 1: it's all set up for like he's set up to 145 00:06:19,384 --> 00:06:22,184 Speaker 1: be like the winner. So something is going to unfold 146 00:06:22,184 --> 00:06:26,784 Speaker 1: in this new season where but does it feel I 147 00:06:26,824 --> 00:06:29,424 Speaker 1: don't know, if he dies at the end, does that 148 00:06:29,504 --> 00:06:31,424 Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of like a come up in 149 00:06:31,704 --> 00:06:33,624 Speaker 1: his character? Or will he die a kind of like 150 00:06:33,664 --> 00:06:36,304 Speaker 1: his own hand, like it'll die in like some sort 151 00:06:36,344 --> 00:06:38,544 Speaker 1: of a fiery blaze of glory, Like will they kind 152 00:06:38,544 --> 00:06:40,344 Speaker 1: of like end it as him being a hero? Is 153 00:06:40,344 --> 00:06:40,944 Speaker 1: what I want to know? 154 00:06:41,464 --> 00:06:43,704 Speaker 2: Oh my god, maybe you should write for the show. 155 00:06:43,864 --> 00:06:47,744 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm sure? And then what happened? Yeah, you're looking 156 00:06:47,784 --> 00:06:51,104 Speaker 1: at me is if I know you'll look across the table. 157 00:06:51,104 --> 00:06:53,784 Speaker 1: You're like, tell me about the last time. Yeah, I mean, 158 00:06:53,824 --> 00:06:55,344 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if they're taking edits 159 00:06:55,344 --> 00:06:58,824 Speaker 1: at this point in time. But I also would say, 160 00:06:58,824 --> 00:07:00,424 Speaker 1: I like, if you haven't watched the first season, it 161 00:07:00,464 --> 00:07:02,784 Speaker 1: is really good TV, really, and apart from then, I 162 00:07:02,824 --> 00:07:04,824 Speaker 1: know they've got like the next couple of seasons. Well, 163 00:07:04,824 --> 00:07:07,544 Speaker 1: you've watched more than I have. But yeah, it gets 164 00:07:08,344 --> 00:07:09,304 Speaker 1: does it like brutal? 165 00:07:09,544 --> 00:07:11,104 Speaker 2: Yeah? No more cringe. 166 00:07:11,504 --> 00:07:13,064 Speaker 1: Oh like, hey, brutal. 167 00:07:13,264 --> 00:07:15,544 Speaker 2: It does get brutal though, But then I think in 168 00:07:15,584 --> 00:07:18,504 Speaker 2: the seasons like in between, you find him that he is, 169 00:07:19,064 --> 00:07:21,664 Speaker 2: you still see like a person within him. I feel 170 00:07:21,664 --> 00:07:24,864 Speaker 2: like season one really made him look like a crazy, 171 00:07:24,904 --> 00:07:27,384 Speaker 2: animalistic killer, which I feel like was also the end 172 00:07:27,424 --> 00:07:30,184 Speaker 2: of season four, But the seasons in between, you see 173 00:07:30,224 --> 00:07:33,864 Speaker 2: like little hints that he which sounds so shitty, especially 174 00:07:33,864 --> 00:07:36,424 Speaker 2: for coming from me, a woman's he is just a 175 00:07:36,464 --> 00:07:39,064 Speaker 2: person who he's just a boy. He's just a guy 176 00:07:39,344 --> 00:07:42,624 Speaker 2: doing boys things. Boys will be boys guys. 177 00:07:42,744 --> 00:07:45,704 Speaker 1: And it cuts to Joe from you with his body 178 00:07:45,744 --> 00:07:49,544 Speaker 1: of women. He's brutally killed Jesus Christ. The thing I 179 00:07:49,584 --> 00:07:51,664 Speaker 1: always find interesting about you is how every time a 180 00:07:51,704 --> 00:07:54,384 Speaker 1: new season comes out, all the headlines go over where 181 00:07:54,464 --> 00:07:57,224 Speaker 1: Penn Badgeley hates the character of Joe and thinks you 182 00:07:57,264 --> 00:07:59,504 Speaker 1: should too, And I was like that is me. We 183 00:07:59,584 --> 00:08:02,464 Speaker 1: do that. That is not a hot take, pen Like, 184 00:08:03,144 --> 00:08:05,424 Speaker 1: it's not it's not him, it's the publications. You run 185 00:08:05,424 --> 00:08:07,744 Speaker 1: it like it's not a hot take. What's he supposed 186 00:08:07,744 --> 00:08:10,704 Speaker 1: to say that the killer? I wish I could just 187 00:08:11,224 --> 00:08:13,784 Speaker 1: I've modeled many parts of myself off Joe. I really 188 00:08:13,904 --> 00:08:15,904 Speaker 1: understand where he's coming from. Like he's not going to 189 00:08:15,984 --> 00:08:18,784 Speaker 1: say that, but again, I do understand why also why 190 00:08:18,864 --> 00:08:21,944 Speaker 1: girls are lusting after him. Everyone loves a bad boy. 191 00:08:21,984 --> 00:08:23,184 Speaker 1: But can I just say when we say I love 192 00:08:23,184 --> 00:08:25,264 Speaker 1: a bad boy, it's too bad? This is too bad? 193 00:08:25,304 --> 00:08:25,664 Speaker 2: Too bad? 194 00:08:26,304 --> 00:08:31,024 Speaker 1: Direction the other way, maybe some like tax fraud exactly, 195 00:08:31,504 --> 00:08:35,024 Speaker 1: or like someone robbing from the Richard Robin hood, or 196 00:08:35,104 --> 00:08:37,184 Speaker 1: even just some like you know, killing an enemy or 197 00:08:37,224 --> 00:08:40,664 Speaker 1: something like that. That's where, okay, benin stalking women we 198 00:08:40,744 --> 00:08:44,024 Speaker 1: draw the line. This. So the final season of You 199 00:08:44,184 --> 00:08:46,344 Speaker 1: is our Netflix. Now I guess we can go see 200 00:08:46,344 --> 00:08:49,784 Speaker 1: how it ends, all right? 201 00:08:49,984 --> 00:08:53,744 Speaker 2: Can I talk about my recommendation first? Please do good 202 00:08:53,824 --> 00:08:57,624 Speaker 2: luck trying to figure out all that it's about. 203 00:08:58,504 --> 00:09:02,144 Speaker 1: For those who don't know Emily's i'd say a beautiful 204 00:09:02,144 --> 00:09:04,024 Speaker 1: part of your personality. 205 00:09:03,584 --> 00:09:06,584 Speaker 2: Elbie, I don't know if you've listened to the episode 206 00:09:06,584 --> 00:09:08,984 Speaker 2: where I talked about Sinners with kel. After I talked 207 00:09:08,984 --> 00:09:11,544 Speaker 2: about it, I haven't she yet, but I'm going to 208 00:09:11,544 --> 00:09:14,144 Speaker 2: go buy it. But I explained the whole movie to 209 00:09:14,224 --> 00:09:16,304 Speaker 2: her and then we were talking, and then after that 210 00:09:16,384 --> 00:09:17,784 Speaker 2: she was like, so, what's the movie about? And I 211 00:09:17,864 --> 00:09:19,184 Speaker 2: realized I didn't explain. 212 00:09:21,744 --> 00:09:25,024 Speaker 1: Listeners would dough that one of Emily's most endearing qualities 213 00:09:25,224 --> 00:09:27,144 Speaker 1: is that she will watch a movie or a TV show, 214 00:09:27,504 --> 00:09:29,344 Speaker 1: she will love it. She'll get so vestaed, she'll think 215 00:09:29,344 --> 00:09:30,984 Speaker 1: about it night and days, she'll talk about it, and 216 00:09:31,024 --> 00:09:33,824 Speaker 1: when you ask her to explain the plot, she doesn't know. 217 00:09:35,224 --> 00:09:37,264 Speaker 2: You were dealing get this job. 218 00:09:37,304 --> 00:09:39,024 Speaker 1: I honestly don't know the. 219 00:09:38,944 --> 00:09:41,104 Speaker 2: First time it happened to us. Sorry to tangent here, 220 00:09:41,104 --> 00:09:44,384 Speaker 2: but the first time we remember we were friends, but 221 00:09:44,424 --> 00:09:46,864 Speaker 2: i'd only just started on the podcast now to explain 222 00:09:46,944 --> 00:09:47,624 Speaker 2: the Witch. 223 00:09:50,264 --> 00:09:53,144 Speaker 1: That is my favorite memory of You had no idea 224 00:09:53,184 --> 00:09:56,104 Speaker 1: of the character's names, no idea what happened, no idea 225 00:09:56,104 --> 00:09:57,464 Speaker 1: of the plot, no idea of the books that was 226 00:09:57,504 --> 00:09:58,904 Speaker 1: based on, and you went hard. You were like, I'm 227 00:09:58,904 --> 00:10:00,744 Speaker 1: going to do a recap of the three seasons. I'm 228 00:10:00,744 --> 00:10:02,984 Speaker 1: going to get really intimate. Explain it. And we just 229 00:10:03,064 --> 00:10:04,744 Speaker 1: got so muddled and by the end, I said, let's 230 00:10:04,744 --> 00:10:06,384 Speaker 1: start at the beginning. What is a witcher? 231 00:10:06,504 --> 00:10:10,744 Speaker 2: And you were like, still don't know. 232 00:10:11,064 --> 00:10:18,104 Speaker 1: So I wait for the new season with all right, well, 233 00:10:18,104 --> 00:10:19,824 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to you do your explanation of your 234 00:10:19,824 --> 00:10:21,304 Speaker 1: weekend watching, and I guess we'll throw in like a 235 00:10:21,304 --> 00:10:23,624 Speaker 1: Wikipedia summary or something for the listeners to work out. 236 00:10:23,704 --> 00:10:24,904 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna set the scene. 237 00:10:24,944 --> 00:10:25,144 Speaker 1: Okay. 238 00:10:25,184 --> 00:10:26,984 Speaker 2: Here I was sitting on my couch looking for a 239 00:10:27,024 --> 00:10:30,424 Speaker 2: movie to watch, going through all of my subscriptions. I 240 00:10:30,424 --> 00:10:33,424 Speaker 2: feel like when I'm channeling for something to watch. Netflix 241 00:10:33,504 --> 00:10:35,344 Speaker 2: is the automatic when I go to and I think 242 00:10:35,344 --> 00:10:37,744 Speaker 2: that's just because I'm so used to the like menu 243 00:10:37,784 --> 00:10:39,984 Speaker 2: options on there, and it's like perfectly tailored to what 244 00:10:40,024 --> 00:10:42,504 Speaker 2: I want to watch things you want. The algorithm nailed 245 00:10:42,544 --> 00:10:45,544 Speaker 2: this because I saw a little icon can come up 246 00:10:45,584 --> 00:10:48,464 Speaker 2: that was like recommended for me, and it was called Havoc, 247 00:10:49,064 --> 00:10:51,024 Speaker 2: and like I needed discay an more. 248 00:10:51,144 --> 00:10:52,744 Speaker 1: I would have said to anyone who asked me, this 249 00:10:52,784 --> 00:10:54,344 Speaker 1: is an Emily Verner movie. 250 00:10:54,104 --> 00:10:57,544 Speaker 2: I need to describe this poster to you because it 251 00:10:57,664 --> 00:11:00,744 Speaker 2: was like iconic. So I'm watching my TV and it's 252 00:11:00,784 --> 00:11:03,624 Speaker 2: like this icon and think of like old school movie posters. 253 00:11:03,664 --> 00:11:06,064 Speaker 2: We have like people in the foreground, people in the background, 254 00:11:06,104 --> 00:11:08,624 Speaker 2: and they're like blending out. And then the middle has 255 00:11:08,664 --> 00:11:11,384 Speaker 2: the word havoc. And then and right on the top 256 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:14,144 Speaker 2: front and center is Tom Hardy. 257 00:11:14,704 --> 00:11:16,104 Speaker 1: Oh okay, say no more? 258 00:11:16,144 --> 00:11:18,384 Speaker 2: And Tom Hardy with like his shaved head. 259 00:11:18,544 --> 00:11:20,864 Speaker 1: And you love your Tom Hardy's biggest say. 260 00:11:20,984 --> 00:11:23,024 Speaker 2: I love I. 261 00:11:24,984 --> 00:11:27,264 Speaker 1: Know. I don't hear that many people say, you know who? 262 00:11:27,264 --> 00:11:29,104 Speaker 1: I love it a movie Tom Hardy, Like, I know 263 00:11:29,144 --> 00:11:31,704 Speaker 1: people like him, but you have a huge emotional connection 264 00:11:31,784 --> 00:11:34,184 Speaker 1: to this man. I think about it again. You have 265 00:11:34,344 --> 00:11:37,064 Speaker 1: you cried his cinematic work, including Venom and Venam too. 266 00:11:37,104 --> 00:11:40,064 Speaker 2: I mean he's been nominated for an Oscar has he Yeah? 267 00:11:40,184 --> 00:11:40,704 Speaker 1: Okay, great? 268 00:11:40,744 --> 00:11:44,744 Speaker 2: I think if he hasn't he will now with Havoc. 269 00:11:45,104 --> 00:11:47,944 Speaker 2: I don't know, you never know, you never know. It 270 00:11:47,984 --> 00:11:50,504 Speaker 2: also starts Forrest Witteger, who is one of my favorite 271 00:11:50,544 --> 00:11:54,504 Speaker 2: actors of all time. But Havoc is about so I 272 00:11:54,544 --> 00:12:00,264 Speaker 2: sit on my TV. So Tom Hardy plays a detective. 273 00:12:00,304 --> 00:12:04,104 Speaker 2: Forgotten his name. He plays a detective, and he's like 274 00:12:04,144 --> 00:12:05,904 Speaker 2: one of those detectives that you can tell has like 275 00:12:05,944 --> 00:12:08,864 Speaker 2: a darkening past. He basically plays Tom Hardy. Like every 276 00:12:08,904 --> 00:12:12,304 Speaker 2: game Tom Hardy's played, it's this detective. So he's like 277 00:12:12,344 --> 00:12:14,424 Speaker 2: this detective and you know what, he's not afraid to 278 00:12:14,424 --> 00:12:16,504 Speaker 2: get dirty, Like if he has to break the rules, 279 00:12:16,504 --> 00:12:19,184 Speaker 2: he breaks the rules. There's all these murders happening, and 280 00:12:19,184 --> 00:12:21,144 Speaker 2: not just murders, but so much it is happening in 281 00:12:21,144 --> 00:12:23,904 Speaker 2: the city kind of like Batman like Gotham. That's the 282 00:12:23,984 --> 00:12:26,224 Speaker 2: vibe of the city. But don't worry, Venom's not in 283 00:12:26,264 --> 00:12:26,584 Speaker 2: this one. 284 00:12:26,864 --> 00:12:27,864 Speaker 1: That would be a great crossing. 285 00:12:28,904 --> 00:12:34,024 Speaker 2: So but then Forrest Woodheger plays a politician. What happens 286 00:12:34,264 --> 00:12:36,824 Speaker 2: is it's like this crime happens, like a really really 287 00:12:36,904 --> 00:12:41,184 Speaker 2: big crime, and Tom Hardy was like, hey, this could 288 00:12:41,224 --> 00:12:44,344 Speaker 2: be the politician's son. And then he goes up to 289 00:12:44,384 --> 00:12:49,264 Speaker 2: the politician Forest He's like, hey, your son's involved, and 290 00:12:49,304 --> 00:12:51,784 Speaker 2: Forest's like, no, my son is not involved, but he 291 00:12:51,944 --> 00:12:54,384 Speaker 2: is missing, Tom Hardy, you need to find him right now. 292 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:58,144 Speaker 2: And Tom Hardy's like, I got this. Forest is not. 293 00:12:58,104 --> 00:13:00,344 Speaker 1: Meant to be a comedy, right, No, it's so serious. 294 00:13:00,544 --> 00:13:01,464 Speaker 1: It's really serious. 295 00:13:01,584 --> 00:13:04,144 Speaker 2: It's like an action thriller. So it's like a mystery 296 00:13:04,144 --> 00:13:05,224 Speaker 2: because like where's the sun? 297 00:13:05,264 --> 00:13:07,064 Speaker 1: But at giving it comedic over. 298 00:13:07,384 --> 00:13:09,304 Speaker 2: Sorry, but that's just because I don't know how to explain. 299 00:13:10,544 --> 00:13:12,624 Speaker 2: And then Tom Hardy just goes on this big adventure 300 00:13:12,624 --> 00:13:14,824 Speaker 2: in the city to find this missing son, and he's 301 00:13:14,824 --> 00:13:17,024 Speaker 2: like acting like kind of like a protective dad, but 302 00:13:17,104 --> 00:13:19,224 Speaker 2: also like he's not afraid to kill some people. 303 00:13:19,664 --> 00:13:21,464 Speaker 1: I would believe that Tom Hardy. Do you remember that 304 00:13:21,504 --> 00:13:23,504 Speaker 1: story that came out so many years ago now, but 305 00:13:23,504 --> 00:13:25,624 Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. This woman was giving this police 306 00:13:25,664 --> 00:13:28,744 Speaker 1: report that she had had her bag snatched in London. 307 00:13:28,464 --> 00:13:29,544 Speaker 2: And Tomarty saved her. 308 00:13:30,624 --> 00:13:33,104 Speaker 1: Oh my god. This man saw this woman get like 309 00:13:33,104 --> 00:13:35,424 Speaker 1: pushed over her bag stolen, and he chased the man 310 00:13:35,504 --> 00:13:37,984 Speaker 1: through the streets, got them, I want to say, man 311 00:13:38,024 --> 00:13:40,504 Speaker 1: handle them a little bit, got her bag back and 312 00:13:40,624 --> 00:13:41,864 Speaker 1: was like here you go, then went on his way, 313 00:13:41,864 --> 00:13:43,624 Speaker 1: and everyriend's like, that was Tom Hardy. 314 00:13:43,824 --> 00:13:46,104 Speaker 2: So I reckon, Like they filmed them doing that and 315 00:13:46,104 --> 00:13:48,144 Speaker 2: they put it in this movie. Yeah, like it would 316 00:13:48,184 --> 00:13:49,784 Speaker 2: have been like exact. 317 00:13:49,344 --> 00:13:52,184 Speaker 1: He's out there fighting crime on the streets that show 318 00:13:52,384 --> 00:13:54,464 Speaker 1: like an actor who fights crime and oh my god, 319 00:13:54,584 --> 00:13:56,584 Speaker 1: and it's Tom Hardy's real life story. 320 00:13:56,904 --> 00:13:58,344 Speaker 2: WHOA And then what happens? 321 00:13:59,624 --> 00:14:01,704 Speaker 1: Then he crosses the wrong criminal anyway. 322 00:14:01,784 --> 00:14:05,664 Speaker 2: Havoc is like crazy, crazy actioning, a bit gruesome but 323 00:14:05,704 --> 00:14:06,424 Speaker 2: not too much. 324 00:14:06,944 --> 00:14:09,704 Speaker 1: But it's like, well, you don't like super super gruesome 325 00:14:09,744 --> 00:14:10,504 Speaker 1: stuff like. 326 00:14:12,064 --> 00:14:15,064 Speaker 2: Yeah about all the time, but I like I like 327 00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:17,984 Speaker 2: guns the Blaze, Yeah, kind of like strong, like these 328 00:14:18,064 --> 00:14:20,064 Speaker 2: actionally strong men who've been in the industry for a 329 00:14:20,064 --> 00:14:23,384 Speaker 2: really long time, like Expendables, best movie of all time. 330 00:14:23,824 --> 00:14:25,784 Speaker 1: You always wonder if i'd anyone asks me what's Emily's 331 00:14:25,784 --> 00:14:27,864 Speaker 1: favorite movies? I would say all male casts. You do 332 00:14:27,864 --> 00:14:31,544 Speaker 1: just like the ladies in there. Lots of action, lots 333 00:14:31,544 --> 00:14:33,904 Speaker 1: of action, but no one really gets too hurt or 334 00:14:33,944 --> 00:14:34,904 Speaker 1: dies too badly. 335 00:14:35,304 --> 00:14:37,104 Speaker 2: If you have a fifteen year old son, what if 336 00:14:37,144 --> 00:14:38,184 Speaker 2: he likes I like. 337 00:14:38,504 --> 00:14:41,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also people become friends at the end. 338 00:14:41,784 --> 00:14:45,184 Speaker 1: I feel like you like actually like Teams of Men, yeah, 339 00:14:45,624 --> 00:14:47,544 Speaker 1: which was like this was a risk for me because 340 00:14:47,544 --> 00:14:49,904 Speaker 1: it's just Tom Hardy solo kind of like taking like 341 00:14:49,904 --> 00:14:51,464 Speaker 1: a Liam Nielsen. He's going for that. 342 00:14:51,544 --> 00:14:54,184 Speaker 2: But I prefer teams of men. But this is still 343 00:14:54,184 --> 00:14:54,624 Speaker 2: really good. 344 00:14:54,664 --> 00:14:56,704 Speaker 1: Okay, Well it's good that you're branching out from teams 345 00:14:56,704 --> 00:15:02,064 Speaker 1: of men to one man. Anyway, Having on Netflix recommendation, 346 00:15:02,344 --> 00:15:03,344 Speaker 1: you did a really good job of. 347 00:15:03,264 --> 00:15:05,744 Speaker 2: Explaining that I'm sorry if this movie is so different 348 00:15:05,784 --> 00:15:09,824 Speaker 2: to what what I just said. It's a rock comment. 349 00:15:10,544 --> 00:15:15,464 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, it's actually a political thriller. One of the 350 00:15:15,544 --> 00:15:18,464 Speaker 1: reasons why I was very, very nervous to watch this 351 00:15:18,624 --> 00:15:21,864 Speaker 1: new series, which came out on Prime video last night, 352 00:15:22,424 --> 00:15:25,024 Speaker 1: is because it was made by one of my favorite 353 00:15:25,104 --> 00:15:27,784 Speaker 1: TV creators of all time. Do you know the name 354 00:15:27,904 --> 00:15:32,264 Speaker 1: Amy Sherman Palladino, maybe in old little show called Gilmore Girls. 355 00:15:32,344 --> 00:15:33,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Gilmore Girls. 356 00:15:33,584 --> 00:15:37,344 Speaker 1: Yes, obviously you have a soul. Yes, I love. She 357 00:15:37,624 --> 00:15:41,064 Speaker 1: is the creator, writer, director, executive producer, everything of Gilmore Girls. 358 00:15:41,104 --> 00:15:42,904 Speaker 1: She out of the idea with sitting in a little 359 00:15:42,944 --> 00:15:44,944 Speaker 1: in Connecticut and wrote it on a napkin what it 360 00:15:44,984 --> 00:15:46,864 Speaker 1: was going to be, and then she. 361 00:15:46,544 --> 00:15:47,944 Speaker 2: Shaped stuff on napkin. 362 00:15:48,104 --> 00:15:50,144 Speaker 1: Well, she's what she had a brainwave about, like a 363 00:15:50,184 --> 00:15:52,344 Speaker 1: young mother living in a small Connecticut town and all 364 00:15:52,344 --> 00:15:55,464 Speaker 1: these different characters and her rich family. She had to 365 00:15:55,464 --> 00:15:57,104 Speaker 1: get that shit down all she has a napkin. 366 00:15:57,504 --> 00:15:59,584 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I feel like this is a common 367 00:15:59,624 --> 00:16:02,064 Speaker 2: theme with like great artists. It's like always writing a 368 00:16:02,144 --> 00:16:04,344 Speaker 2: first idea down on napkin and then they frame it 369 00:16:04,384 --> 00:16:05,384 Speaker 2: for like generations. 370 00:16:05,464 --> 00:16:06,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what that napkin is, but I 371 00:16:06,904 --> 00:16:09,664 Speaker 1: would sell my soul for it anyway. Amy sham and Palladino, 372 00:16:09,864 --> 00:16:13,144 Speaker 1: the creator Gilmore Girls, also the creator of another one 373 00:16:13,304 --> 00:16:16,384 Speaker 1: of my favorite TV shows of all time, and, in 374 00:16:16,464 --> 00:16:18,304 Speaker 1: my opinion, but also other critics' opinion, one of the 375 00:16:18,304 --> 00:16:21,904 Speaker 1: best TV shows of all time, The MARVELOUSNESSUS Maisel. Yes, yeah, 376 00:16:22,104 --> 00:16:23,664 Speaker 1: you've watched it. Yes, amazing. 377 00:16:24,024 --> 00:16:25,344 Speaker 2: So my mom got me into that. 378 00:16:25,464 --> 00:16:27,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, because your mom has excellent taste. Every time we 379 00:16:27,624 --> 00:16:31,504 Speaker 1: talk about a very similar yes, and I don't find that. 380 00:16:31,624 --> 00:16:32,224 Speaker 1: I find that great. 381 00:16:32,264 --> 00:16:34,104 Speaker 2: Actually that's better than having taste like me. 382 00:16:35,904 --> 00:16:38,544 Speaker 1: Yes. Everything Amy and Shaman Perladino does is very light 383 00:16:38,624 --> 00:16:40,944 Speaker 1: on like big casts of men. It's usually about women, 384 00:16:41,024 --> 00:16:43,184 Speaker 1: you know, and these like quick and always like these big, 385 00:16:43,304 --> 00:16:46,144 Speaker 1: sprawling casts of characters. And she's also really well known 386 00:16:46,504 --> 00:16:49,584 Speaker 1: for her dialogue. It's always so sharp, so fast, lots 387 00:16:49,584 --> 00:16:51,624 Speaker 1: of pop culture references. That's something that you can see 388 00:16:51,624 --> 00:16:54,184 Speaker 1: in Gilmore Girls and also in The Marvelessness Is Maisl. 389 00:16:54,384 --> 00:16:56,504 Speaker 1: The pace is really yeah, the pain and she's so 390 00:16:56,544 --> 00:16:58,624 Speaker 1: particular about it, and you can kind of see when 391 00:16:58,664 --> 00:17:00,784 Speaker 1: she takes her hands off a show because she very 392 00:17:00,824 --> 00:17:03,704 Speaker 1: infamously left Gilmore Girls in the final seasons there was 393 00:17:03,704 --> 00:17:05,344 Speaker 1: like a thing with a network, and so a lot 394 00:17:05,384 --> 00:17:07,704 Speaker 1: of people when they talk about not loving the last 395 00:17:07,744 --> 00:17:10,144 Speaker 1: season of Gilmore Girls, it's kind of just because Amy 396 00:17:10,504 --> 00:17:13,504 Speaker 1: Palladino and Dan Palladino, her husband, who works on everything 397 00:17:13,504 --> 00:17:16,224 Speaker 1: with her, if their creative force wasn't there, then they 398 00:17:16,224 --> 00:17:18,584 Speaker 1: came out and made Gilmore Girls A Year in the Life. 399 00:17:18,264 --> 00:17:19,744 Speaker 2: Which was actually really good. 400 00:17:20,104 --> 00:17:21,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, I stand by that. A lot of people hate it. 401 00:17:21,984 --> 00:17:23,944 Speaker 1: I don't. She also made the short lived show butN 402 00:17:23,944 --> 00:17:26,144 Speaker 1: Heads with Sutton Foster. Have you. 403 00:17:26,744 --> 00:17:28,024 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of it, but. 404 00:17:28,424 --> 00:17:30,784 Speaker 1: It's on Disney Plus. You should absolutely watch it and 405 00:17:30,824 --> 00:17:33,984 Speaker 1: it's got Kelly Bishop who wears Emily Gilmore and Gilmore Girls. Anyway, 406 00:17:34,024 --> 00:17:37,064 Speaker 1: this woman has created this whole TV universe that's just 407 00:17:37,104 --> 00:17:39,584 Speaker 1: so incredible. So when I found out that she had 408 00:17:39,624 --> 00:17:41,864 Speaker 1: a new show coming out, I was excited and nervous. 409 00:17:42,024 --> 00:17:43,264 Speaker 2: Okay, the name of the show. 410 00:17:43,304 --> 00:17:44,704 Speaker 1: And before I say the name of the show, can 411 00:17:44,744 --> 00:17:47,344 Speaker 1: I just say, do not message me and say I 412 00:17:47,424 --> 00:17:49,624 Speaker 1: pronounced it wrong. Oh no, you know why I pronounced 413 00:17:49,624 --> 00:17:51,864 Speaker 1: it wrong because I don't speak French. Oh it's a 414 00:17:51,864 --> 00:17:54,264 Speaker 1: French show. Yeah, well it's got a French name. Oh okay, 415 00:17:54,344 --> 00:17:57,064 Speaker 1: and so my North Queensland accents really going to come here. 416 00:17:57,704 --> 00:18:00,904 Speaker 1: The show is called Etoit. So we've been saying the 417 00:18:00,944 --> 00:18:02,904 Speaker 1: office because we're all obsessed with this show obviously because 418 00:18:02,904 --> 00:18:05,264 Speaker 1: we're all Amy Showman Palladino girls, and we were talking 419 00:18:05,304 --> 00:18:07,264 Speaker 1: about how to say it properly and the Natara, one 420 00:18:07,264 --> 00:18:09,144 Speaker 1: of our writers, like you just to say it with confidence. 421 00:18:09,144 --> 00:18:10,784 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm going to do. So the show 422 00:18:10,904 --> 00:18:13,904 Speaker 1: is called Etoi. It's about thank you. That's the last 423 00:18:13,904 --> 00:18:16,864 Speaker 1: time I said. It's about these two different ballet companies 424 00:18:16,904 --> 00:18:18,864 Speaker 1: and the drama that happens. So it's like a ballet 425 00:18:19,344 --> 00:18:23,264 Speaker 1: drama d which are ballet off yes, exactly, so, which 426 00:18:23,264 --> 00:18:25,344 Speaker 1: is interesting because Bunheads was also a ballet show, but 427 00:18:25,384 --> 00:18:26,904 Speaker 1: that was very much more like her. Is she a 428 00:18:26,904 --> 00:18:29,784 Speaker 1: ballet loose? I think she likes a bit of ballet anyhow, 429 00:18:29,824 --> 00:18:31,824 Speaker 1: and Palladinoor, I don't think it's a ballet dancer. 430 00:18:31,664 --> 00:18:33,504 Speaker 2: But maybe she was just like you know, when you 431 00:18:33,584 --> 00:18:35,184 Speaker 2: just get like a fixation on one. 432 00:18:35,984 --> 00:18:40,584 Speaker 1: Probably she's like a small town drama New York comedy scene. 433 00:18:40,704 --> 00:18:44,784 Speaker 1: Ballet in her areas of interest. So you have Jack, 434 00:18:44,904 --> 00:18:48,304 Speaker 1: who is the executive director of the Metropolitan Ballet Theater 435 00:18:48,384 --> 00:18:50,384 Speaker 1: in New York City is one of the main characters, 436 00:18:50,664 --> 00:18:53,824 Speaker 1: and then Genevieve, who is the interim director of La 437 00:18:53,984 --> 00:18:57,224 Speaker 1: Ballet Nationale in the Paris. So you have these two 438 00:18:57,504 --> 00:19:02,184 Speaker 1: iconic ballet institutions who are both really struggling that both 439 00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:04,504 Speaker 1: of their new seasons have flopped. They can't get people 440 00:19:04,584 --> 00:19:07,544 Speaker 1: in to see their companies. Basically, ballet is going to 441 00:19:07,584 --> 00:19:10,704 Speaker 1: die forever. The stakes are high. No more Balerie, but 442 00:19:10,744 --> 00:19:13,944 Speaker 1: I loved some one, like, well, people aren't buying tickets 443 00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:15,584 Speaker 1: to the ballet in this world. So what they do 444 00:19:15,664 --> 00:19:17,104 Speaker 1: is they get together, and they also have a bit 445 00:19:17,144 --> 00:19:20,144 Speaker 1: of an interesting past. Jack and Genevieve have a romantic 446 00:19:20,224 --> 00:19:22,624 Speaker 1: past and very very flirting. Now this whole kind of 447 00:19:22,624 --> 00:19:24,984 Speaker 1: thing between them. They decide to have this one year 448 00:19:25,024 --> 00:19:27,344 Speaker 1: experiment where they trade some of their dancers. So then 449 00:19:27,344 --> 00:19:29,544 Speaker 1: you have the show going back and forth between Paris 450 00:19:29,624 --> 00:19:32,544 Speaker 1: New York as you bring like different dancers into companies, 451 00:19:32,744 --> 00:19:35,184 Speaker 1: and then it's kind of almost like Center Stage s 452 00:19:35,264 --> 00:19:37,864 Speaker 1: you know, the iconic early two thousands movie where you 453 00:19:38,024 --> 00:19:40,504 Speaker 1: have all of these incredible and this is what Amy 454 00:19:40,504 --> 00:19:42,824 Speaker 1: Shaman Paladina does really well is doing a big cast 455 00:19:42,864 --> 00:19:45,064 Speaker 1: of characters and the way they all bounce off each 456 00:19:45,104 --> 00:19:47,224 Speaker 1: other because obviously you have these two ballet companies like 457 00:19:47,264 --> 00:19:49,864 Speaker 1: desperately trying to stay afloat, and then you have like 458 00:19:49,904 --> 00:19:52,384 Speaker 1: you know, the prima donna ballerinas and the new ballerines 459 00:19:52,384 --> 00:19:54,304 Speaker 1: coming in, plus all the people who were like involved 460 00:19:54,344 --> 00:19:57,064 Speaker 1: in the ballet, and it's almost like this fish out 461 00:19:57,064 --> 00:19:59,784 Speaker 1: of water because they swapped the primo dancers around and 462 00:19:59,784 --> 00:20:01,624 Speaker 1: it's this whole kind of thing. So we've got and 463 00:20:01,664 --> 00:20:02,904 Speaker 1: they're all looking up with each other too. 464 00:20:03,064 --> 00:20:03,904 Speaker 2: Whoa sexy? 465 00:20:03,984 --> 00:20:08,464 Speaker 1: So you've got ballet, drama, ballet sex, you know, and 466 00:20:08,504 --> 00:20:11,184 Speaker 1: it looks beautiful, like it just like every Amy show 467 00:20:11,264 --> 00:20:13,544 Speaker 1: and Palladino show just looks you know, Gilmore Girls is 468 00:20:13,584 --> 00:20:16,304 Speaker 1: just like this fan color and everything's so gorgeous and 469 00:20:16,344 --> 00:20:18,784 Speaker 1: like the set dressing is incredible, and then the marvelous 470 00:20:18,784 --> 00:20:21,264 Speaker 1: miness is Maizel. Sometimes I just think that show can't 471 00:20:21,304 --> 00:20:22,584 Speaker 1: be real. It is the most beautiful. 472 00:20:22,664 --> 00:20:26,384 Speaker 3: It feels like like just like a stage production, yes exactly. 473 00:20:26,464 --> 00:20:29,664 Speaker 3: It feels like this big theatrical production that's on here. 474 00:20:29,664 --> 00:20:33,144 Speaker 3: Streen and that's what feels like watching. Also, there's lots 475 00:20:33,144 --> 00:20:35,664 Speaker 3: of characters in there who well, the cast is incredible. 476 00:20:35,664 --> 00:20:38,144 Speaker 3: First of all, Charlotte Gainsborough plays Genevieve. She's a very 477 00:20:38,144 --> 00:20:41,104 Speaker 3: famous French and English actress and she usually does a 478 00:20:41,104 --> 00:20:43,544 Speaker 3: lot more when you've seen her in like really dramatic, 479 00:20:43,664 --> 00:20:46,464 Speaker 3: gritty roles, so watching her in something that's both a 480 00:20:46,504 --> 00:20:49,624 Speaker 3: drama and a comedy is really amazing. And then Luke 481 00:20:49,824 --> 00:20:52,624 Speaker 3: Kirby is in it as well, so he plays Jack, 482 00:20:52,664 --> 00:20:55,104 Speaker 3: one of the leaves. So he's Lenny Bruce from The 483 00:20:55,144 --> 00:20:57,544 Speaker 3: Marvelous Missus Maize. Oh my god, yeah, you know that 484 00:20:57,584 --> 00:20:59,544 Speaker 3: the other comic helps me Geelong. 485 00:20:59,624 --> 00:21:00,704 Speaker 1: They hook up and. 486 00:21:01,184 --> 00:21:02,104 Speaker 2: Now he's in this show. 487 00:21:02,184 --> 00:21:03,784 Speaker 1: Yes, and he's one of the leads in this show. 488 00:21:04,344 --> 00:21:06,824 Speaker 1: So if you like love the Marvelessess is Mazel and 489 00:21:06,864 --> 00:21:08,904 Speaker 1: you loved Lenny Bruce from that, he's in this. And 490 00:21:08,904 --> 00:21:11,384 Speaker 1: then the other thing that made me realize happy is 491 00:21:11,424 --> 00:21:15,624 Speaker 1: that Yannick Trusdelle, who played Michelle Gerard in Gilmore Girls, 492 00:21:15,744 --> 00:21:17,904 Speaker 1: as in like Michelle, why I'm not even saying who 493 00:21:17,904 --> 00:21:19,784 Speaker 1: he is? People know, like you guys, don't you've watched 494 00:21:19,824 --> 00:21:22,744 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls, plays Rafael and just watching him back on 495 00:21:22,824 --> 00:21:26,904 Speaker 1: screen in an Amy Sherman Palladino show, like, I literally, wait. 496 00:21:26,784 --> 00:21:29,344 Speaker 2: Does this I get first gig since Gilmore Girls. 497 00:21:29,464 --> 00:21:31,464 Speaker 1: No, he's done other stuff, but this is kind of, 498 00:21:31,544 --> 00:21:33,384 Speaker 1: like I guess, one of his really big acting roles. 499 00:21:33,384 --> 00:21:36,384 Speaker 1: And because he's coming back into the Amy Sherman Palladino universe, 500 00:21:36,864 --> 00:21:39,024 Speaker 1: it's such a big deal. So I got like really 501 00:21:39,064 --> 00:21:41,144 Speaker 1: like emotional when he came on stage. 502 00:21:41,144 --> 00:21:42,144 Speaker 2: It's just so cute. 503 00:21:42,424 --> 00:21:46,264 Speaker 1: So there's eight episodes. It's really beautiful, good. Don't watch 504 00:21:46,304 --> 00:21:49,384 Speaker 1: it if you're like looking for another Gilmore Girls or 505 00:21:49,424 --> 00:21:52,064 Speaker 1: another it's definitely more masl esque, but it's also its 506 00:21:52,064 --> 00:21:54,344 Speaker 1: own show. I guess, like it's just an entertaining show. 507 00:21:54,384 --> 00:21:57,064 Speaker 1: It looks beautiful, it's interesting. It's not going to reach 508 00:21:57,104 --> 00:21:59,264 Speaker 1: the heights of Gilmore Girls a Mazel, I don't think. 509 00:21:59,304 --> 00:22:02,064 Speaker 1: But also like that's really yeah, you know what I mean. 510 00:22:02,104 --> 00:22:05,944 Speaker 1: That's a really high start. So and it does get 511 00:22:05,984 --> 00:22:08,624 Speaker 1: a little kind of uneven towards the end a little bit, 512 00:22:09,024 --> 00:22:11,144 Speaker 1: but it starts off really strong, and I just think, like, 513 00:22:11,224 --> 00:22:13,384 Speaker 1: sit down and give it a chance and just let 514 00:22:13,424 --> 00:22:15,784 Speaker 1: yourself get immersed in this world, because it's really interesting. 515 00:22:15,864 --> 00:22:17,144 Speaker 1: Don't be looking at your phone. You've got to be 516 00:22:17,144 --> 00:22:19,224 Speaker 1: a thing about an Amy showman paladine. I'm sure you've 517 00:22:19,224 --> 00:22:20,784 Speaker 1: got to be taking playing attention to a dialogue. 518 00:22:20,904 --> 00:22:21,424 Speaker 2: Move so fast. 519 00:22:21,464 --> 00:22:24,784 Speaker 1: It moved so fast, the jokes, the references, the like 520 00:22:24,784 --> 00:22:27,264 Speaker 1: little quips between the characters, like there's so Mantle one 521 00:22:27,344 --> 00:22:29,264 Speaker 1: las one where like this one Ballerina hooks up with 522 00:22:29,264 --> 00:22:31,704 Speaker 1: someone on a couch and she was like, but she listened, queens, 523 00:22:31,704 --> 00:22:33,304 Speaker 1: I wasn't going there, so we sucked on the couch. Like. 524 00:22:33,304 --> 00:22:38,984 Speaker 1: It's just so fast paced. So it's at et spelt. 525 00:22:39,064 --> 00:22:41,264 Speaker 1: I'll just spell that in case anyone's looking right on 526 00:22:41,344 --> 00:22:45,304 Speaker 1: Prime video. E t oh, I l e on Prime video. 527 00:22:45,304 --> 00:22:47,064 Speaker 1: Eight episodes. I'd love you to watch it and just 528 00:22:47,144 --> 00:22:49,784 Speaker 1: kind of get your vibeline. A little recap, maybe little recap. 529 00:22:49,824 --> 00:22:51,464 Speaker 1: I love to know how you explained the poor back 530 00:22:51,504 --> 00:22:51,704 Speaker 1: to me. 531 00:22:53,304 --> 00:22:55,784 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 532 00:22:55,864 --> 00:22:58,104 Speaker 2: The Spill is produced by Amy Kimball, with sound production 533 00:22:58,184 --> 00:23:00,264 Speaker 2: by Scott's Tronnik. And we will see you soon. 534 00:23:00,464 --> 00:23:10,424 Speaker 1: Bye bye. M