1 00:00:10,327 --> 00:00:13,047 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA mea podcast. 2 00:00:13,727 --> 00:00:16,767 Speaker 2: Mama Mayer acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:16,807 --> 00:00:18,407 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:20,527 --> 00:00:23,047 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to MoMA Me. You're Out Loud and 5 00:00:23,047 --> 00:00:25,567 Speaker 1: to our Friday show where we take a break from 6 00:00:25,607 --> 00:00:29,647 Speaker 1: the news cycle and breed out Today's Friday, the twenty 7 00:00:29,647 --> 00:00:32,007 Speaker 1: eighth of June, And I'm Meya Friedman. I am still 8 00:00:32,087 --> 00:00:35,167 Speaker 1: driving the bus today, Holly, We'll be back on Monday. 9 00:00:35,487 --> 00:00:38,407 Speaker 3: And I'm Jesse Stevens and I'm m Van m can't 10 00:00:38,447 --> 00:00:39,687 Speaker 3: get rid of me? I'm here. 11 00:00:39,967 --> 00:00:41,247 Speaker 1: We've tried, we tried. 12 00:00:41,647 --> 00:00:44,047 Speaker 3: I also host our daily entertainment podcast. 13 00:00:43,687 --> 00:00:45,767 Speaker 1: A Spell Out Louders in case you missed it. We 14 00:00:45,807 --> 00:00:49,887 Speaker 1: also host other podcasts because we're very busy and important. 15 00:00:50,007 --> 00:00:52,887 Speaker 1: We're not really what's on everyone else's show LA this week, 16 00:00:53,007 --> 00:00:53,687 Speaker 1: speak yourself. 17 00:00:53,767 --> 00:00:56,447 Speaker 4: My other podcast is really important and it's all canceled. 18 00:00:56,487 --> 00:01:00,607 Speaker 4: And if you think I didn't spend a week, I'm 19 00:01:00,687 --> 00:01:03,927 Speaker 4: going to say balls deep. In Judelaw's cheatings candal Nanny, 20 00:01:04,127 --> 00:01:08,327 Speaker 4: Oh Jenns, did you know that the nanny kept a 21 00:01:08,407 --> 00:01:12,407 Speaker 4: diary and that I have excerpts from the diary about 22 00:01:12,407 --> 00:01:13,527 Speaker 4: her to affair with Jude Law. 23 00:01:13,647 --> 00:01:14,207 Speaker 5: Is this ethical? 24 00:01:14,247 --> 00:01:17,887 Speaker 4: Absolutely not canceled. Isn't about being ethical anyway. So we 25 00:01:17,927 --> 00:01:19,887 Speaker 4: look at Jude Law and his life and crimes and 26 00:01:19,887 --> 00:01:23,127 Speaker 4: how for his latest role he wanted to smell like 27 00:01:23,647 --> 00:01:27,647 Speaker 4: fecal matter and running flesh and how he stopped. Yeah, yep, 28 00:01:28,007 --> 00:01:31,127 Speaker 4: So it's a fun one. That's Jude Law un canceled 29 00:01:32,047 --> 00:01:33,807 Speaker 4: on no filter what we. 30 00:01:33,807 --> 00:01:36,567 Speaker 1: Talked about actually this week. Sometimes people get annoyed because 31 00:01:36,607 --> 00:01:38,927 Speaker 1: when it's Holy Jesse and Me on this show, we 32 00:01:38,967 --> 00:01:44,527 Speaker 1: all have children, and that is a particular worldview because 33 00:01:44,567 --> 00:01:47,127 Speaker 1: as a mother, well you're not one, because I and 34 00:01:47,207 --> 00:01:49,847 Speaker 1: lots of people aren't. So this week I spoke to 35 00:01:49,847 --> 00:01:52,167 Speaker 1: a woman called Faris Dare and she's a journalist and 36 00:01:52,247 --> 00:01:54,687 Speaker 1: she's an editor, and ten years ago she decided to 37 00:01:54,727 --> 00:01:58,127 Speaker 1: be a non parent, which is really interesting. You know 38 00:01:58,207 --> 00:02:02,287 Speaker 1: this whole thing about child less versus child free, and 39 00:02:02,367 --> 00:02:04,287 Speaker 1: she says she doesn't want to be called either of 40 00:02:04,287 --> 00:02:06,807 Speaker 1: those things because child less implies that her life is 41 00:02:06,887 --> 00:02:10,047 Speaker 1: less because she doesn't have children, and child free implies 42 00:02:10,087 --> 00:02:12,807 Speaker 1: that she doesn't like children and that she's happy to 43 00:02:12,847 --> 00:02:15,847 Speaker 1: have no children. She is happy not to be a parent. 44 00:02:16,327 --> 00:02:19,047 Speaker 1: She's forty five, she just turned forty five. And interestingly, 45 00:02:19,127 --> 00:02:22,767 Speaker 1: when she decided to become a non parent was when 46 00:02:22,807 --> 00:02:26,207 Speaker 1: she was about to start IVF. She'd been trying to 47 00:02:26,207 --> 00:02:27,727 Speaker 1: get pregnant for a while and she'd been seeing a 48 00:02:27,767 --> 00:02:31,087 Speaker 1: fertility specialist her and her husband. And look, she tells 49 00:02:31,087 --> 00:02:33,847 Speaker 1: the story, but she talks about what life is like 50 00:02:33,927 --> 00:02:35,967 Speaker 1: on the other side of that decision. So, at the 51 00:02:35,967 --> 00:02:39,407 Speaker 1: age of forty five, it's been, you know, ten years 52 00:02:39,407 --> 00:02:41,687 Speaker 1: pretty much since she decided not to have kids, and 53 00:02:41,727 --> 00:02:45,087 Speaker 1: she wanted to almost send a postcard to people who 54 00:02:45,087 --> 00:02:47,727 Speaker 1: are maybe thinking they don't want kids or who don't 55 00:02:47,807 --> 00:02:50,407 Speaker 1: know they over kids, and say, this is all the 56 00:02:50,407 --> 00:02:53,407 Speaker 1: great things about my life now, Oh I love that. 57 00:02:53,567 --> 00:02:55,367 Speaker 1: Very interesting? And what have you been talking about on 58 00:02:55,407 --> 00:02:56,207 Speaker 1: the Spill this week? 59 00:02:56,247 --> 00:02:59,007 Speaker 3: On the Spill earlier this week we talked about Kylie 60 00:02:59,047 --> 00:03:01,047 Speaker 3: Jenner and the Kardashians and general I know you guys 61 00:03:01,087 --> 00:03:02,887 Speaker 3: talked about Kim on Wednesday show. 62 00:03:03,167 --> 00:03:04,487 Speaker 1: So only got ten good years left. 63 00:03:04,567 --> 00:03:07,287 Speaker 3: She only has ten good years left. Kylie has more. 64 00:03:07,527 --> 00:03:10,367 Speaker 3: Kylie has more, She's younger. Actually crying on one of 65 00:03:10,407 --> 00:03:12,247 Speaker 3: the latest episodes of The Kutashian because of all the 66 00:03:12,287 --> 00:03:14,687 Speaker 3: criticisms she's been getting about her face. If you've seen, 67 00:03:14,807 --> 00:03:17,247 Speaker 3: like been on Twitter, you see so many tweets about her, 68 00:03:17,447 --> 00:03:20,047 Speaker 3: people saying that she's watched her face. She's been reading 69 00:03:20,047 --> 00:03:21,927 Speaker 3: all of those and now she's kind of going through 70 00:03:21,967 --> 00:03:24,327 Speaker 3: this whole thing of like, why are people talking about 71 00:03:24,327 --> 00:03:29,047 Speaker 3: my face? And we were discussing whether she's kind of 72 00:03:29,207 --> 00:03:32,447 Speaker 3: either of it. It's tricky because I'm like, you have 73 00:03:32,567 --> 00:03:35,847 Speaker 3: set unrealistic beauty standards for all women, but you're also 74 00:03:35,887 --> 00:03:39,007 Speaker 3: a byproduct of that, but you yourself can't achieve those. 75 00:03:39,487 --> 00:03:41,407 Speaker 5: Are you, say, a game or are you not exactly? 76 00:03:41,527 --> 00:03:44,647 Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's also not just I reject the premise 77 00:03:44,687 --> 00:03:49,207 Speaker 1: of that it's inherently unfair or wrong to talk about 78 00:03:49,407 --> 00:03:52,887 Speaker 1: someone's appearance. I mean, it's wrong to say they look 79 00:03:52,967 --> 00:03:55,567 Speaker 1: ugly or they're blah, or be demeaning about them, but 80 00:03:56,487 --> 00:04:00,407 Speaker 1: to just observe that someone doesn't look the way they 81 00:04:00,487 --> 00:04:03,447 Speaker 1: used to look, or that their lips are so big 82 00:04:03,487 --> 00:04:05,207 Speaker 1: they can't talk, like those kinds of things. 83 00:04:05,447 --> 00:04:07,127 Speaker 4: I don't know if you've been on the Internet lately, 84 00:04:07,207 --> 00:04:09,207 Speaker 4: but I don't think people are good at just object 85 00:04:09,327 --> 00:04:09,847 Speaker 4: of observation. 86 00:04:10,287 --> 00:04:11,807 Speaker 5: I think you're an od piece. 87 00:04:11,847 --> 00:04:13,927 Speaker 3: And she was talking about how this has been happening 88 00:04:13,927 --> 00:04:15,967 Speaker 3: before she even had any surgery, like since she was 89 00:04:15,967 --> 00:04:18,087 Speaker 3: a child, because she was the youngest Kutashian. She's been 90 00:04:18,127 --> 00:04:20,087 Speaker 3: on the show since she was like nine, and she's like, 91 00:04:20,127 --> 00:04:22,327 Speaker 3: everyone's always talked about my love, So loud. 92 00:04:22,167 --> 00:04:23,567 Speaker 1: As will put a link in the show notes on 93 00:04:23,727 --> 00:04:27,807 Speaker 1: the show today, there's a new etiquette guide for partying. Yes, 94 00:04:28,407 --> 00:04:31,367 Speaker 1: you heard me correctly, and I really need it because 95 00:04:32,207 --> 00:04:34,527 Speaker 1: I'm here to partner. I'm not really, but it is 96 00:04:34,607 --> 00:04:37,367 Speaker 1: all the lessons that we didn't know that we needed 97 00:04:37,487 --> 00:04:39,607 Speaker 1: on how to party without regrets. And it's not just 98 00:04:39,687 --> 00:04:41,367 Speaker 1: like party party, Like. 99 00:04:41,807 --> 00:04:42,727 Speaker 5: Is how to be a house guest? 100 00:04:42,807 --> 00:04:44,367 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's how to be a house guest. Dinner party 101 00:04:44,407 --> 00:04:46,487 Speaker 1: could be in a kind of party barbecue. Plus a 102 00:04:46,527 --> 00:04:50,847 Speaker 1: TV show that blends supermodel standards and high kicks, and 103 00:04:51,127 --> 00:04:53,847 Speaker 1: a must watch wrestling movie a piece that will get 104 00:04:53,847 --> 00:04:57,847 Speaker 1: you asking, am I own confident? Yes, it's our weekly recommendations, 105 00:04:58,047 --> 00:04:59,727 Speaker 1: and we also wrap up the week with our best 106 00:04:59,767 --> 00:05:02,527 Speaker 1: and Worst, which includes a curvy puppy, a plane ride 107 00:05:02,527 --> 00:05:05,207 Speaker 1: from hell, and a tumbling tower of cocktails. 108 00:05:05,407 --> 00:05:09,247 Speaker 3: But first and Casey missed it according to Twitter, which 109 00:05:09,367 --> 00:05:12,007 Speaker 3: where I get all my information now there are four 110 00:05:12,047 --> 00:05:16,047 Speaker 3: types of handsome, So we have eagle handsome, bare handsome, 111 00:05:16,327 --> 00:05:18,487 Speaker 3: dog handsome, and reptilian handsome. 112 00:05:18,527 --> 00:05:20,407 Speaker 4: I don't think i'd want to be reptilian handser it 113 00:05:20,567 --> 00:05:22,247 Speaker 4: like rodents. 114 00:05:22,287 --> 00:05:26,007 Speaker 3: I think rodents was the evolution of reptilian handsome. 115 00:05:26,567 --> 00:05:28,767 Speaker 1: A lot of people said that this was a bit mean, 116 00:05:29,367 --> 00:05:34,087 Speaker 1: that if we were categorizing women according to like if 117 00:05:34,127 --> 00:05:36,367 Speaker 1: we had rat girls summer and we picked a whole 118 00:05:36,407 --> 00:05:39,887 Speaker 1: lot of girls that look a bit rodent like that, 119 00:05:39,887 --> 00:05:41,847 Speaker 1: that would be frowned upon. And so why is it 120 00:05:41,887 --> 00:05:43,047 Speaker 1: okay to do this to men? 121 00:05:43,287 --> 00:05:45,567 Speaker 3: I don't think it's mean to men. I think we're 122 00:05:45,567 --> 00:05:48,247 Speaker 3: calling them handsome. I think we allow all men to 123 00:05:48,287 --> 00:05:51,047 Speaker 3: be really good looking. They're just different categories of good looking, 124 00:05:51,167 --> 00:05:53,167 Speaker 3: whereas with women were like you're either hot or you're. 125 00:05:53,007 --> 00:05:55,487 Speaker 5: Not, or you're just all ugly in different ways. 126 00:05:55,527 --> 00:05:59,767 Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, so we have eagle handsome, and that is 127 00:05:59,847 --> 00:06:03,407 Speaker 3: kind of the man who even if it's not your type, 128 00:06:03,487 --> 00:06:06,247 Speaker 3: you can't deny that they're really good looking. So like 129 00:06:06,487 --> 00:06:09,447 Speaker 3: strong bones, struck, strong, brown, like very like if you 130 00:06:09,447 --> 00:06:11,927 Speaker 3: were to draw an ideal man like a cartoon, that would. 131 00:06:11,767 --> 00:06:13,647 Speaker 1: Be them, like George Clooney, George. 132 00:06:13,327 --> 00:06:16,087 Speaker 3: Clooney, Ryan Gosling. I want to say Michael B. 133 00:06:16,207 --> 00:06:18,887 Speaker 1: Jordan's Powell, doctor Chris Brown. 134 00:06:19,327 --> 00:06:22,327 Speaker 3: Yes, eagle handsome, you know what. 135 00:06:22,407 --> 00:06:25,207 Speaker 5: I love That handsome has never been for me. 136 00:06:28,247 --> 00:06:32,527 Speaker 3: It's not for me either, but you can't deny. 137 00:06:32,327 --> 00:06:34,407 Speaker 1: And I know I've never dated that. I dated No, 138 00:06:34,447 --> 00:06:34,847 Speaker 1: I've never. 139 00:06:34,807 --> 00:06:36,967 Speaker 5: Really kind of too chiseled and perfect. 140 00:06:37,247 --> 00:06:38,847 Speaker 3: I think it's a bit of a like if you 141 00:06:38,927 --> 00:06:42,127 Speaker 3: say your boyfriend is eagle handsome, I'm like, you think 142 00:06:42,127 --> 00:06:43,047 Speaker 3: your boyfriend's a really. 143 00:06:42,887 --> 00:06:47,327 Speaker 1: Good looking just kind of like, you know, like the Thunderbirds. 144 00:06:47,567 --> 00:06:49,887 Speaker 1: If you remember the thunderbirds, I don't know what thunderbirds. 145 00:06:50,487 --> 00:06:53,927 Speaker 5: They were like going in front of him. 146 00:06:54,087 --> 00:06:57,087 Speaker 3: And then we have bare handsome and Travis Kelsey. Travis 147 00:06:57,167 --> 00:06:59,967 Speaker 3: Kelsey is a big so bear is is like a 148 00:07:00,127 --> 00:07:07,607 Speaker 3: big rugged thick neck. Yeah, got like rugged dog handsome. 149 00:07:07,607 --> 00:07:09,167 Speaker 3: It's kind of like a little puppy dog. You want 150 00:07:09,167 --> 00:07:11,887 Speaker 3: to play with them, like dead Patel Heath Legends dog 151 00:07:11,967 --> 00:07:13,767 Speaker 3: handsome John Legend. 152 00:07:14,447 --> 00:07:15,007 Speaker 5: I like them. 153 00:07:15,047 --> 00:07:16,807 Speaker 4: I think I think there's a charisma to kind of 154 00:07:16,807 --> 00:07:17,767 Speaker 4: a round face like that. 155 00:07:18,287 --> 00:07:20,767 Speaker 3: And then we have Reptilian handsome. The only example I 156 00:07:20,767 --> 00:07:24,847 Speaker 3: could find was Timothy Chama Challam Challam May, isn't it 157 00:07:25,807 --> 00:07:27,407 Speaker 3: I thought he was challamet. 158 00:07:27,127 --> 00:07:28,567 Speaker 1: I thought he was rat Boy. 159 00:07:28,807 --> 00:07:31,447 Speaker 3: Yes, so he is like also an evolution of rat Boy. Also, 160 00:07:31,487 --> 00:07:33,647 Speaker 3: I think Harry Styles might be a bit reptilian. 161 00:07:34,207 --> 00:07:35,047 Speaker 1: Ah, and. 162 00:07:36,567 --> 00:07:39,007 Speaker 3: Maybe the one who was in the idea of you, 163 00:07:39,207 --> 00:07:40,127 Speaker 3: the Anne Hathaway one. 164 00:07:40,167 --> 00:07:41,127 Speaker 5: Is he a bit reptilian? 165 00:07:41,647 --> 00:07:46,607 Speaker 1: No, Nicholas Gallant sine, I think he would be either 166 00:07:46,847 --> 00:07:52,047 Speaker 1: dog handsome or eagle handsome? Right, okay, what about Jacob Laudie. 167 00:07:52,647 --> 00:07:57,567 Speaker 4: Oh, reptilian maybe, I think a little bit features no 168 00:07:57,647 --> 00:08:00,087 Speaker 4: one also Bear, No, I. 169 00:08:00,007 --> 00:08:04,367 Speaker 1: Don't think he's bad. I think he's probably he's not eagle. 170 00:08:04,527 --> 00:08:07,407 Speaker 1: He's not eagle. You're right, it's quite hard, all right, 171 00:08:07,447 --> 00:08:10,047 Speaker 1: Brad Pitt, Holly's not here. We go to categorize him, 172 00:08:10,127 --> 00:08:11,447 Speaker 1: he'd be eagle hands. 173 00:08:11,087 --> 00:08:14,407 Speaker 3: Eagle, surely, haven't. Leonardo di Caprio, I'm thinking dog. 174 00:08:16,767 --> 00:08:20,647 Speaker 1: He's egle handsome. Really yeah, I think end's nodding he's 175 00:08:20,647 --> 00:08:21,447 Speaker 1: eagle hands Okay. 176 00:08:21,487 --> 00:08:24,567 Speaker 3: Now I think Titanic he was dog, but now he's 177 00:08:24,647 --> 00:08:26,167 Speaker 3: probably more reptilian. 178 00:08:26,607 --> 00:08:30,287 Speaker 4: Barack Obama, I was gonna say, bear, there's just something 179 00:08:30,367 --> 00:08:37,487 Speaker 4: quite okay, Yeah, handsome, Yeah. 180 00:08:36,887 --> 00:08:39,087 Speaker 3: I think he's thinking eagle handsome because he was president. 181 00:08:39,367 --> 00:08:41,927 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably power. I think he could be dog handsome 182 00:08:41,927 --> 00:08:44,807 Speaker 1: because he's kind of a little bit goofy. If everyone's 183 00:08:44,807 --> 00:08:48,407 Speaker 1: still listening, we've got more to talk about. We just 184 00:08:48,407 --> 00:08:52,687 Speaker 1: would like you to randomly name any famous man and 185 00:08:52,727 --> 00:08:58,447 Speaker 1: then categorize him as either eagle, bear, dog, or reptilia. 186 00:08:57,887 --> 00:09:01,607 Speaker 3: And they're all hot. 187 00:09:01,927 --> 00:09:02,767 Speaker 5: Just yeah, exactly. 188 00:09:02,927 --> 00:09:05,527 Speaker 4: A new etiquette guide published by The New York Times 189 00:09:05,527 --> 00:09:08,047 Speaker 4: has generated quite a bit of chatter due to a 190 00:09:08,127 --> 00:09:12,567 Speaker 4: number of questionable rules. It was collated by asking highly 191 00:09:12,607 --> 00:09:16,927 Speaker 4: sociable people from Ivy Ghetti to Rufus Wainwright for their 192 00:09:16,967 --> 00:09:19,447 Speaker 4: tips on how to be a stellar guest and a 193 00:09:19,487 --> 00:09:23,607 Speaker 4: gracious host. We have three different generations here. I think 194 00:09:24,247 --> 00:09:24,847 Speaker 4: I use it. 195 00:09:25,207 --> 00:09:26,327 Speaker 3: I think I'm as millennial. 196 00:09:26,407 --> 00:09:27,487 Speaker 5: I'm just going to call you Alenia. 197 00:09:27,847 --> 00:09:29,967 Speaker 3: So I thought I would present some of these rules 198 00:09:29,967 --> 00:09:31,287 Speaker 3: to our little counselor. 199 00:09:31,007 --> 00:09:33,447 Speaker 1: You're a millennial and I'm a gen X, yes, and. 200 00:09:33,367 --> 00:09:35,727 Speaker 4: Then get our perspectives right and just see if they 201 00:09:35,727 --> 00:09:39,607 Speaker 4: are universal. First one, and these kind of go from 202 00:09:40,367 --> 00:09:41,607 Speaker 4: getting there to leaving. 203 00:09:41,647 --> 00:09:42,327 Speaker 5: They go through the. 204 00:09:42,567 --> 00:09:44,807 Speaker 1: Yeah, even getting ready, which I really like. It's about 205 00:09:44,847 --> 00:09:47,567 Speaker 1: psychologically preparing if. 206 00:09:47,447 --> 00:09:50,487 Speaker 4: You're going to go, go, do not plan to leave 207 00:09:50,527 --> 00:09:53,207 Speaker 4: the party early. If you have to leave early, I say, 208 00:09:53,287 --> 00:09:55,487 Speaker 4: do not come and don't ask who else is coming? 209 00:09:55,607 --> 00:09:57,367 Speaker 5: That is rude. I agree or disagree. 210 00:09:57,487 --> 00:09:59,807 Speaker 1: I love this. I think this is so true because 211 00:09:59,847 --> 00:10:03,127 Speaker 1: I do all of those things, and I'm so rude. 212 00:10:03,607 --> 00:10:07,487 Speaker 1: I always plan to leave the party early. The first 213 00:10:07,487 --> 00:10:10,327 Speaker 1: every party. Yep. The first thing I ask when I'm 214 00:10:10,447 --> 00:10:14,407 Speaker 1: invited anywhere is what time does it end? That is 215 00:10:14,647 --> 00:10:18,807 Speaker 1: so rude, and I oh my god, but I like 216 00:10:18,887 --> 00:10:22,127 Speaker 1: to psychologically from this part of my post, what time 217 00:10:22,167 --> 00:10:25,247 Speaker 1: it is going to end? Yes, I really like parties 218 00:10:25,327 --> 00:10:30,047 Speaker 1: with an end time, preferably two hours after the start time. Okay, 219 00:10:30,487 --> 00:10:33,247 Speaker 1: that's my preference. And whenever I have any kind of 220 00:10:33,287 --> 00:10:36,687 Speaker 1: a party, I always have an end time. We're here 221 00:10:36,687 --> 00:10:37,887 Speaker 1: for a short time online, and how. 222 00:10:37,807 --> 00:10:39,807 Speaker 4: Do you feel You're having something at your house? And 223 00:10:39,847 --> 00:10:43,407 Speaker 4: then you invite me and I go, yeah, I'll think 224 00:10:43,447 --> 00:10:45,727 Speaker 4: about it. Who's coming? Do you think that's rude? 225 00:10:46,007 --> 00:10:46,327 Speaker 3: I do? 226 00:10:46,447 --> 00:10:48,927 Speaker 1: I don't actually ask who's coming. I don't because I 227 00:10:48,927 --> 00:10:50,687 Speaker 1: do think that's rude. But I always want to know. 228 00:10:51,207 --> 00:10:53,207 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be knowing. That's why I don't mind, like 229 00:10:53,207 --> 00:10:54,247 Speaker 5: a bit of a group chat. 230 00:10:54,247 --> 00:10:55,487 Speaker 3: Like a bit of a Facebook events. 231 00:10:55,607 --> 00:10:57,327 Speaker 5: Yeah, just to do a little who's going? 232 00:10:57,327 --> 00:10:57,687 Speaker 1: Who is it? 233 00:10:58,127 --> 00:10:58,207 Speaker 2: What? 234 00:10:58,327 --> 00:11:00,647 Speaker 1: My favorite thing is when someone will send out an 235 00:11:00,647 --> 00:11:03,447 Speaker 1: invitation and they'll do that BCC thing and then someone 236 00:11:03,487 --> 00:11:07,007 Speaker 1: will or they'll accidentally send out everyone's email address so 237 00:11:07,047 --> 00:11:07,807 Speaker 1: you can see it. 238 00:11:08,367 --> 00:11:10,207 Speaker 3: Yeah, care about who's going? 239 00:11:10,847 --> 00:11:11,807 Speaker 1: But do you ask or not? 240 00:11:12,287 --> 00:11:12,767 Speaker 3: No? Never? 241 00:11:12,967 --> 00:11:15,847 Speaker 1: Never? And do you agree if you have to leave early, 242 00:11:15,927 --> 00:11:18,047 Speaker 1: don't come and don't plan to me? 243 00:11:18,207 --> 00:11:20,647 Speaker 4: I think that you tell the person that you have 244 00:11:20,687 --> 00:11:22,967 Speaker 4: to leave early, like I would say, be transparent about it. 245 00:11:23,007 --> 00:11:24,247 Speaker 3: I think it's dependent on time. 246 00:11:24,367 --> 00:11:26,287 Speaker 1: I feel like that's rude. I'd prefer to just go. 247 00:11:26,447 --> 00:11:28,607 Speaker 3: If you're telling me early on with the invite saying 248 00:11:28,607 --> 00:11:31,087 Speaker 3: I have another event, leave, If you're telling me the 249 00:11:31,167 --> 00:11:33,687 Speaker 3: day off saying fy I have to leave early, knowing 250 00:11:33,767 --> 00:11:34,367 Speaker 3: why would you come? 251 00:11:34,447 --> 00:11:36,887 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm also like, don't tell me that you've 252 00:11:36,887 --> 00:11:39,327 Speaker 1: just given me mental loath of like it's. 253 00:11:39,167 --> 00:11:39,767 Speaker 5: A vibe kill. 254 00:11:40,687 --> 00:11:43,567 Speaker 4: There are certain things that will irk the host. One 255 00:11:43,767 --> 00:11:46,087 Speaker 4: is when you ask the question that should never be asked, 256 00:11:46,167 --> 00:11:46,967 Speaker 4: what should I bring? 257 00:11:47,207 --> 00:11:47,647 Speaker 5: Instead? 258 00:11:47,727 --> 00:11:50,567 Speaker 4: You should say I'm already planning on bringing some champagne 259 00:11:50,607 --> 00:11:53,007 Speaker 4: and wine. What else should I bring? Or don't even 260 00:11:53,047 --> 00:11:54,607 Speaker 4: ask and just show up with something. 261 00:11:54,767 --> 00:11:55,487 Speaker 1: I thought that was clever. 262 00:11:55,647 --> 00:11:58,007 Speaker 3: But I think that if you say I'm already planning 263 00:11:58,007 --> 00:12:00,687 Speaker 3: on bringing champagne or wine, what else should I bring, 264 00:12:01,047 --> 00:12:03,967 Speaker 3: I'm expecting you to say nothing else. So you tell 265 00:12:04,007 --> 00:12:08,847 Speaker 3: me to bring another edition, I think you misheard. I'm 266 00:12:08,847 --> 00:12:11,207 Speaker 3: already the champagne. 267 00:12:11,287 --> 00:12:14,047 Speaker 5: I called you, and that was the conversation. 268 00:12:14,407 --> 00:12:17,367 Speaker 1: I have got a very strict rule that I wish 269 00:12:17,407 --> 00:12:20,327 Speaker 1: everybody knew is do not, ever, no matter what kind 270 00:12:20,327 --> 00:12:23,207 Speaker 1: of part are you're going to, do not bring flowers. 271 00:12:24,247 --> 00:12:29,887 Speaker 1: Because your host is stressed, they're busy, you give them flowers, 272 00:12:30,247 --> 00:12:31,047 Speaker 1: given them a job. 273 00:12:31,727 --> 00:12:32,647 Speaker 5: I love flowers. 274 00:12:32,687 --> 00:12:36,527 Speaker 1: I disagree, but send them the morning of or the 275 00:12:36,607 --> 00:12:40,287 Speaker 1: next day. Don't turn up while they are doing one 276 00:12:40,327 --> 00:12:44,007 Speaker 1: hundred things and plut flowers at them and send it. 277 00:12:44,367 --> 00:12:46,927 Speaker 1: Send them that day. 278 00:12:47,127 --> 00:12:49,527 Speaker 3: I don't mind getting flowers on the day off. I'll 279 00:12:49,527 --> 00:12:52,207 Speaker 3: find the vash when I come over to your house. 280 00:12:52,207 --> 00:12:54,287 Speaker 3: I'll find the vas for you and put the flowers. 281 00:12:54,367 --> 00:12:57,207 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, well, to do that, that's different. But 282 00:12:57,287 --> 00:12:59,927 Speaker 1: if I'm trying to get my shot organized, don't make 283 00:12:59,927 --> 00:13:00,527 Speaker 1: me get a vas. 284 00:13:00,887 --> 00:13:04,127 Speaker 4: Go into the party and meet three people ten words 285 00:13:04,207 --> 00:13:04,647 Speaker 4: or less. 286 00:13:04,807 --> 00:13:05,687 Speaker 5: Elevator pitch. 287 00:13:06,327 --> 00:13:09,247 Speaker 3: What do we think you feel like this could backfire? 288 00:13:09,247 --> 00:13:10,767 Speaker 1: Do you know what? My mother in law's like this? 289 00:13:10,807 --> 00:13:13,407 Speaker 1: So at your engagement party, Jesse, my mother in law 290 00:13:13,447 --> 00:13:16,367 Speaker 1: she works a room. She loves a room. I'm like, 291 00:13:16,407 --> 00:13:18,167 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know anyone, and she's like, 292 00:13:18,487 --> 00:13:20,807 Speaker 1: that's okay. I love this. I live for this, and 293 00:13:20,847 --> 00:13:23,767 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that side of her. She goes into 294 00:13:23,807 --> 00:13:27,127 Speaker 1: a room and introduces herself to every single person, which 295 00:13:27,167 --> 00:13:30,647 Speaker 1: I'm the opposite of me. I will like, look for 296 00:13:30,687 --> 00:13:32,407 Speaker 1: someone I know and sit with me in the corner. 297 00:13:33,047 --> 00:13:35,087 Speaker 3: I think I would take it too literally, like it's 298 00:13:35,087 --> 00:13:36,767 Speaker 3: something I have to achieve. So I'll talk to someone 299 00:13:36,807 --> 00:13:38,447 Speaker 3: and be like, sorry, I have to move on to 300 00:13:38,487 --> 00:13:40,607 Speaker 3: my next person. I need to go over here for 301 00:13:40,847 --> 00:13:44,007 Speaker 3: that person. Elevator pitch sounds weird. It feels you're pitching. 302 00:13:44,087 --> 00:13:46,047 Speaker 1: Do you know before you even get there. There's another 303 00:13:46,087 --> 00:13:47,847 Speaker 1: point in here which I wrote down, which I loved, 304 00:13:47,847 --> 00:13:50,367 Speaker 1: where it says don't you know what should you bring? 305 00:13:50,847 --> 00:13:53,887 Speaker 1: It says bring a sense of humor, bring positive energy. 306 00:13:54,007 --> 00:13:56,687 Speaker 1: That anecdote of yours cut it by ninety eight percent. 307 00:13:56,847 --> 00:13:58,847 Speaker 1: Practice it in front of the mirror, and in six 308 00:13:58,887 --> 00:14:01,887 Speaker 1: months you can bring it to the party. And then 309 00:14:01,927 --> 00:14:04,087 Speaker 1: it says in terms of what you wear, if you 310 00:14:04,127 --> 00:14:06,487 Speaker 1: get dressed for a party, make an effort. You honor 311 00:14:06,527 --> 00:14:08,807 Speaker 1: your host by making an effort. You don't just show 312 00:14:08,887 --> 00:14:10,607 Speaker 1: up in ugs and a neck doughnut. 313 00:14:12,647 --> 00:14:15,207 Speaker 5: If that felt pointed, that felt very I feel like 314 00:14:15,247 --> 00:14:15,887 Speaker 5: that cook for you. 315 00:14:16,007 --> 00:14:19,287 Speaker 4: Just because I get confused if I'm going to someone's home, 316 00:14:20,047 --> 00:14:22,887 Speaker 4: then I treat it like a sleepover like I treat it. 317 00:14:22,927 --> 00:14:24,807 Speaker 4: I went to a friend's house recently and I thought 318 00:14:24,807 --> 00:14:26,887 Speaker 4: it was quite low key, and I was in a 319 00:14:26,927 --> 00:14:29,127 Speaker 4: version of my pajamas, and I got there and realized 320 00:14:29,167 --> 00:14:31,087 Speaker 4: this was not a pajama's event, Like they just had 321 00:14:31,287 --> 00:14:33,047 Speaker 4: like jeans on. But I was, like, wear jeans in 322 00:14:33,087 --> 00:14:35,727 Speaker 4: their own house, So I did need that. 323 00:14:35,847 --> 00:14:38,767 Speaker 1: I once had. I once hosted just girlfriends for dinner 324 00:14:38,847 --> 00:14:42,447 Speaker 1: on a Sunday night, and one of them was like 325 00:14:42,607 --> 00:14:46,367 Speaker 1: scandalized that I was wearing ugg boots. I didn't know 326 00:14:46,407 --> 00:14:48,807 Speaker 1: her very well, not Forelena. We're not really friends anymore, 327 00:14:48,887 --> 00:14:51,407 Speaker 1: but she apparently was saying to the other people, I 328 00:14:51,447 --> 00:14:52,407 Speaker 1: can't believe me as. 329 00:14:52,327 --> 00:14:55,767 Speaker 3: Wearing in your own house in my own house. 330 00:14:57,087 --> 00:15:00,407 Speaker 1: Exactly. She was wearing like a kitten heel or something like, 331 00:15:00,527 --> 00:15:03,807 Speaker 1: I'm in an apartment, it's Sunday night, we're having past 332 00:15:03,887 --> 00:15:06,607 Speaker 1: us sitting on the ground. Come on, Okay. 333 00:15:06,607 --> 00:15:09,767 Speaker 4: Here's the other one that came up a lot was 334 00:15:10,127 --> 00:15:13,047 Speaker 4: separate from your partner, both of you should cover sort 335 00:15:13,047 --> 00:15:14,767 Speaker 4: of like each side of the room. And then another 336 00:15:14,807 --> 00:15:17,687 Speaker 4: one said that you should never sit spouses together. You 337 00:15:17,727 --> 00:15:19,807 Speaker 4: see your spouse all the time. What do you think 338 00:15:20,127 --> 00:15:23,087 Speaker 4: I've been in this situation. I went to a birthday dinner, 339 00:15:23,567 --> 00:15:25,567 Speaker 4: hadn't been with Luke for that long, didn't know any 340 00:15:25,607 --> 00:15:27,927 Speaker 4: of his mate and we were separated. No, it was 341 00:15:28,007 --> 00:15:31,167 Speaker 4: I had the most interesting conversations with the people around me. 342 00:15:31,407 --> 00:15:33,807 Speaker 4: But but did your heart sink a little bit when 343 00:15:33,807 --> 00:15:35,087 Speaker 4: you when I first realized you. 344 00:15:35,127 --> 00:15:36,527 Speaker 1: Like, this is so much more work for me. 345 00:15:36,727 --> 00:15:39,167 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I will say that it depends on your 346 00:15:39,167 --> 00:15:41,727 Speaker 4: life stage. But sometimes you're really looking forward to the 347 00:15:41,807 --> 00:15:43,007 Speaker 4: night out with your partner. 348 00:15:42,807 --> 00:15:43,567 Speaker 1: If you have one. 349 00:15:43,967 --> 00:15:44,327 Speaker 3: Yeah. 350 00:15:44,367 --> 00:15:45,327 Speaker 5: Well, and that's the thing. 351 00:15:45,367 --> 00:15:47,727 Speaker 1: It's like not an issue for m Yes, but like. 352 00:15:47,847 --> 00:15:53,407 Speaker 3: I'm always with random people. I don't get a choice 353 00:15:53,447 --> 00:15:54,807 Speaker 3: doing my elevator pitch to it. 354 00:15:55,487 --> 00:15:58,527 Speaker 1: This really depends on whether you're what kind of person 355 00:15:58,567 --> 00:16:01,847 Speaker 1: you are, because if you're an introvert or you've got 356 00:16:02,007 --> 00:16:06,167 Speaker 1: your social batteries low, it's really nice to have like, 357 00:16:06,247 --> 00:16:08,887 Speaker 1: at least on one side, someone that you don't have 358 00:16:08,927 --> 00:16:12,887 Speaker 1: to try with and someone that you can just talk to. 359 00:16:13,087 --> 00:16:16,007 Speaker 1: I mean, extroverts are fine because for an extrovert, there's 360 00:16:16,007 --> 00:16:17,727 Speaker 1: no such thing as a stranger. It's just a friend 361 00:16:17,727 --> 00:16:20,767 Speaker 1: you haven't met yet, And so you can have a 362 00:16:20,767 --> 00:16:23,327 Speaker 1: stranger on each side and you can be fine. Now 363 00:16:23,367 --> 00:16:26,727 Speaker 1: for me, I find that completely exhausting to have two 364 00:16:26,727 --> 00:16:29,727 Speaker 1: people I don't know on either side of me. What 365 00:16:29,767 --> 00:16:30,287 Speaker 1: do you find? 366 00:16:30,327 --> 00:16:32,927 Speaker 3: I think it's also dependent on the host having to 367 00:16:33,007 --> 00:16:35,847 Speaker 3: know everyone really well, because I've been in situations at 368 00:16:35,887 --> 00:16:38,767 Speaker 3: dinners where they've tried to mismatch people and I'm never 369 00:16:38,767 --> 00:16:41,327 Speaker 3: close to my friends. And I think the host thinks 370 00:16:41,327 --> 00:16:44,447 Speaker 3: it's people who she will find interesting to interact together, 371 00:16:44,767 --> 00:16:48,207 Speaker 3: but the people who are actually interacting. 372 00:16:47,047 --> 00:16:49,047 Speaker 1: Each other, and so she's curating. 373 00:16:49,247 --> 00:16:51,727 Speaker 3: Yeah, so she's watching from a barber, I want to. 374 00:16:51,687 --> 00:16:53,727 Speaker 1: Say, And to me, it doesn't have to be a 375 00:16:53,847 --> 00:16:55,887 Speaker 1: romantic partner. It just has to be someone that you know, 376 00:16:56,447 --> 00:16:58,647 Speaker 1: like people next on they know. But I want to 377 00:16:58,687 --> 00:17:01,927 Speaker 1: ask you about the etiquette of the great Ossie barbecue, 378 00:17:02,087 --> 00:17:05,327 Speaker 1: sitting women in at one end and men at one end. 379 00:17:06,007 --> 00:17:08,527 Speaker 5: And that always tends to happen, doesn't it. 380 00:17:08,767 --> 00:17:11,447 Speaker 1: Hosts will I'll never seek people like that, but I 381 00:17:11,487 --> 00:17:14,527 Speaker 1: find that people generally, I. 382 00:17:14,567 --> 00:17:19,647 Speaker 4: Think, I think you've got to let people people. Social 383 00:17:19,767 --> 00:17:21,447 Speaker 4: time is finite. 384 00:17:21,927 --> 00:17:23,487 Speaker 3: It's a big thing to like. 385 00:17:23,887 --> 00:17:26,887 Speaker 4: If you're gone and that's your Saturday activity, do I 386 00:17:27,007 --> 00:17:32,967 Speaker 4: want to spend it with, you know, MEA's boyfriend who 387 00:17:33,167 --> 00:17:36,047 Speaker 4: I don't really care about and might never meet again. 388 00:17:36,487 --> 00:17:38,927 Speaker 4: Probably not, Like I just want to speak to my people, 389 00:17:39,527 --> 00:17:39,927 Speaker 4: and I. 390 00:17:39,847 --> 00:17:41,887 Speaker 1: Reckon, you've got to let them. But the only problem 391 00:17:41,887 --> 00:17:43,847 Speaker 1: with that is that if you're the host, you can 392 00:17:43,967 --> 00:17:46,927 Speaker 1: end up sitting in a really dud spot. Oh if 393 00:17:46,967 --> 00:17:49,207 Speaker 1: you just let everyone do it, then you can end 394 00:17:49,287 --> 00:17:51,487 Speaker 1: up like right at the end of the table, next 395 00:17:51,487 --> 00:17:53,087 Speaker 1: to the person you didn't really want to invite. 396 00:17:53,567 --> 00:17:55,087 Speaker 4: Yeah, in that case, you just say I'm the fucking 397 00:17:55,167 --> 00:17:57,167 Speaker 4: highest get up, and then you sit at the interesting part. 398 00:17:57,287 --> 00:17:59,247 Speaker 3: Everyone knows that's the end of the table. You know 399 00:17:59,287 --> 00:18:00,647 Speaker 3: when you're in it, you know, And. 400 00:18:00,607 --> 00:18:04,487 Speaker 1: It's a Missnoma to think that the best place to 401 00:18:04,527 --> 00:18:06,527 Speaker 1: sit is at the head of the table, because then 402 00:18:06,567 --> 00:18:08,927 Speaker 1: you're stuck. You can only talk to the two people 403 00:18:09,447 --> 00:18:11,527 Speaker 1: on either side. But when you're in the middle of 404 00:18:11,567 --> 00:18:14,207 Speaker 1: the table, you've got a lot more options the people 405 00:18:14,247 --> 00:18:17,167 Speaker 1: across from you, and the people besides very true, you've. 406 00:18:17,047 --> 00:18:19,887 Speaker 3: Got like they get a room the ends of the table. 407 00:18:19,887 --> 00:18:20,767 Speaker 3: I think that's all it wants. 408 00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:22,327 Speaker 1: A bit isolating, you're a little bit stuck. 409 00:18:23,727 --> 00:18:25,247 Speaker 3: You can't hear. Oh, you're true. 410 00:18:25,407 --> 00:18:28,167 Speaker 4: Here's another one that I completely agree with, which is 411 00:18:28,247 --> 00:18:30,807 Speaker 4: never show up early because the host is always frantic 412 00:18:30,847 --> 00:18:33,927 Speaker 4: and needs that last half hour. Allow fifteen minutes, I 413 00:18:33,967 --> 00:18:37,807 Speaker 4: think because my partner is very, very punctual, and sometimes 414 00:18:37,807 --> 00:18:39,447 Speaker 4: also in the car, and I say just give them five. 415 00:18:39,727 --> 00:18:41,687 Speaker 4: Give them five because I'm not expecting a knock on 416 00:18:41,727 --> 00:18:43,927 Speaker 4: the door at seven. Next the it's not right. 417 00:18:43,887 --> 00:18:46,087 Speaker 1: And then someone who's just we're just a bit early. 418 00:18:46,407 --> 00:18:50,767 Speaker 1: Why why? Firstly, I can't understand how, and then also 419 00:18:51,447 --> 00:18:54,407 Speaker 1: what did you think I was going to be Did 420 00:18:54,407 --> 00:18:55,927 Speaker 1: you think I was going to be happy to see you? 421 00:18:56,807 --> 00:18:59,287 Speaker 1: Because I'm really not, and now I'm angry, And. 422 00:18:59,207 --> 00:19:00,727 Speaker 3: Then you don't know what to do, like you're awkwardly 423 00:19:00,767 --> 00:19:02,607 Speaker 3: standing in their living room while they're working in. 424 00:19:02,527 --> 00:19:05,647 Speaker 1: The I haven't dried my hair. I've got to find 425 00:19:05,647 --> 00:19:06,607 Speaker 1: a vase for your flowers. 426 00:19:06,687 --> 00:19:09,967 Speaker 4: I've got one that was the most controvert that really 427 00:19:10,007 --> 00:19:13,087 Speaker 4: blew up on Twitter. It says, please don't ask people 428 00:19:13,127 --> 00:19:15,247 Speaker 4: to take off their shoes when entering your apartment. 429 00:19:15,367 --> 00:19:16,967 Speaker 5: It's rude and what do you think? 430 00:19:18,047 --> 00:19:20,207 Speaker 3: When I first read that, I was like, yes, I 431 00:19:20,247 --> 00:19:22,327 Speaker 3: do not want feet in my apartment, and keep your 432 00:19:22,327 --> 00:19:26,607 Speaker 3: shoes on. So work your shoes on. But I know 433 00:19:26,687 --> 00:19:29,807 Speaker 3: a lot of Asian cultures, out of respect, they require 434 00:19:29,807 --> 00:19:31,567 Speaker 3: you to take your shoes off. So if it's part 435 00:19:31,607 --> 00:19:33,767 Speaker 3: of your culture, I'm like, one hundred percent, do it. 436 00:19:33,807 --> 00:19:35,607 Speaker 3: I want to respect I want to be respectful. I'll 437 00:19:35,607 --> 00:19:35,927 Speaker 3: do it. 438 00:19:36,247 --> 00:19:37,927 Speaker 1: Should you always offer as a guest. 439 00:19:38,327 --> 00:19:41,167 Speaker 4: So this is what I've noticed is we we have 440 00:19:41,247 --> 00:19:46,367 Speaker 4: shoes outside our on our veranda thing, and everyone who 441 00:19:46,527 --> 00:19:48,647 Speaker 4: enters our house says, is this the shoes off house? 442 00:19:48,887 --> 00:19:49,007 Speaker 3: Like? 443 00:19:49,087 --> 00:19:50,487 Speaker 5: And they the way. 444 00:19:50,327 --> 00:19:52,407 Speaker 3: That people pick up on the social queue, they don't 445 00:19:52,407 --> 00:19:53,287 Speaker 3: want to break the. 446 00:19:53,767 --> 00:19:55,807 Speaker 1: That's never the rule to we're going to your Well, 447 00:19:55,807 --> 00:19:56,567 Speaker 1: that's because you don't. 448 00:19:56,407 --> 00:19:56,847 Speaker 5: Give a shit. 449 00:19:56,967 --> 00:19:59,687 Speaker 4: Yeah, but and we we don't actually care. It's just 450 00:19:59,727 --> 00:20:01,847 Speaker 4: where the shoes are. But I always think, oh, that's 451 00:20:01,927 --> 00:20:04,527 Speaker 4: so socially aware for people to be like, oh, should 452 00:20:04,527 --> 00:20:05,087 Speaker 4: I take that true? 453 00:20:05,127 --> 00:20:07,767 Speaker 1: Actually, I've noticed more often people who come over say, 454 00:20:07,927 --> 00:20:09,767 Speaker 1: is it a shoes off? My mother in law takes 455 00:20:09,807 --> 00:20:12,447 Speaker 1: her shoes off whenever she comes to our house, even though. 456 00:20:14,207 --> 00:20:16,887 Speaker 3: Sometimes my dad will bring his slippers with him because 457 00:20:16,887 --> 00:20:18,567 Speaker 3: he hates having his shoes off, So if it's a 458 00:20:18,567 --> 00:20:20,727 Speaker 3: shoes off house, he'll bring his slippers with him and 459 00:20:20,727 --> 00:20:21,287 Speaker 3: put them off. 460 00:20:21,327 --> 00:20:21,567 Speaker 4: See. 461 00:20:21,607 --> 00:20:24,647 Speaker 1: I don't like it because if you're at a party, firstly, 462 00:20:24,847 --> 00:20:25,567 Speaker 1: you've probably it. 463 00:20:25,567 --> 00:20:27,847 Speaker 3: Depends what kind of party it isn't you've probably. 464 00:20:27,647 --> 00:20:32,167 Speaker 1: Planned your outfit to include shoes yeap. Secondly, you might 465 00:20:32,207 --> 00:20:34,327 Speaker 1: not have had a petty You might not like what's 466 00:20:34,367 --> 00:20:36,807 Speaker 1: going on down there. You might have blisters, it might 467 00:20:36,847 --> 00:20:39,287 Speaker 1: not be you might not have bothered to put your 468 00:20:39,287 --> 00:20:40,847 Speaker 1: fake hand down pass through and. 469 00:20:40,767 --> 00:20:43,447 Speaker 3: Have different holes on your socks. 470 00:20:44,247 --> 00:20:45,927 Speaker 1: Oh, so you take your socks off as well? 471 00:20:46,287 --> 00:20:48,767 Speaker 3: I can't surely sucks are. 472 00:20:48,927 --> 00:20:52,087 Speaker 4: I have a quick question about allergies because it contradicted 473 00:20:52,247 --> 00:20:55,327 Speaker 4: someone said, don't assume people are not allergic to things. 474 00:20:55,487 --> 00:20:58,127 Speaker 4: You've got to ask in the first instance, are there 475 00:20:58,127 --> 00:21:00,047 Speaker 4: any food alergies and another thread. 476 00:20:59,887 --> 00:21:00,487 Speaker 1: I disagree. 477 00:21:00,567 --> 00:21:01,607 Speaker 5: Do not tell your hosts. 478 00:21:01,687 --> 00:21:02,487 Speaker 1: I disagree. 479 00:21:02,687 --> 00:21:05,327 Speaker 4: If you have food allergies, do not tell your host 480 00:21:05,367 --> 00:21:08,207 Speaker 4: Yeah said, don't tell them. That's not your host business. 481 00:21:08,207 --> 00:21:09,887 Speaker 5: Like just so, I agree that I. 482 00:21:09,847 --> 00:21:13,727 Speaker 1: Think it is up to you to look after your 483 00:21:13,727 --> 00:21:16,647 Speaker 1: own allergies, unless you are like sending your child on 484 00:21:16,687 --> 00:21:18,007 Speaker 1: a playdate. Totally different. 485 00:21:18,247 --> 00:21:18,407 Speaker 5: But I. 486 00:21:21,527 --> 00:21:24,647 Speaker 1: But you're you're grown up. You are responsible for your 487 00:21:24,647 --> 00:21:28,807 Speaker 1: own allergies. Don't make me so if it's that critical 488 00:21:28,847 --> 00:21:32,407 Speaker 1: for you, you need to alert me as the host. I 489 00:21:32,447 --> 00:21:36,607 Speaker 1: shouldn't be expected to ask everybody. I'm inviting any allergies, 490 00:21:36,727 --> 00:21:40,607 Speaker 1: any problem, any dietaries when people are like any dietaries, 491 00:21:40,807 --> 00:21:43,567 Speaker 1: the number of dinner parties I've gone to where there's 492 00:21:43,567 --> 00:21:45,807 Speaker 1: been nothing for me to eat and I just shut up. 493 00:21:45,887 --> 00:21:49,007 Speaker 1: I'll just like eat my way around my problem. Get 494 00:21:49,047 --> 00:21:49,687 Speaker 1: macis on the way. 495 00:21:50,167 --> 00:21:52,287 Speaker 4: I disagree, and I don't think it's rude to bring 496 00:21:52,287 --> 00:21:53,367 Speaker 4: it up to the host. I know a lot of 497 00:21:53,367 --> 00:21:55,527 Speaker 4: people have allergies where it's literally like if it was 498 00:21:55,567 --> 00:21:57,967 Speaker 4: cooked with that thing. For example, if you have a 499 00:21:58,167 --> 00:22:00,687 Speaker 4: like if you're siliac and it's been cooked in the 500 00:22:00,727 --> 00:22:03,327 Speaker 4: same thing as something like you're sick for a week, 501 00:22:03,647 --> 00:22:06,127 Speaker 4: Like that's just not worth it. I think, you know what, 502 00:22:06,287 --> 00:22:08,047 Speaker 4: the host would be horrified if they made. 503 00:22:08,167 --> 00:22:10,087 Speaker 3: I think i'd be embarrassed if I was a host 504 00:22:10,167 --> 00:22:12,007 Speaker 3: and I can see you not being able to eat anything, 505 00:22:12,047 --> 00:22:13,687 Speaker 3: and then everyone else going, oh my god, Emily's such 506 00:22:13,727 --> 00:22:15,447 Speaker 3: a bitch for not Yeah. 507 00:22:15,527 --> 00:22:17,727 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And I don't know out loud as please 508 00:22:17,767 --> 00:22:21,807 Speaker 1: don't at me about I've got an a germ anaphylactic. 509 00:22:21,887 --> 00:22:24,207 Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't mean this kind of situation. I 510 00:22:24,327 --> 00:22:28,287 Speaker 1: more mean like I don't love fish. Yeah, yeah, I 511 00:22:28,327 --> 00:22:31,567 Speaker 1: don't eat lamb but I eat pork but not bacon. 512 00:22:31,727 --> 00:22:33,207 Speaker 1: Like just that starts getting it. 513 00:22:33,487 --> 00:22:35,287 Speaker 3: It's a paragraph. 514 00:22:36,207 --> 00:22:38,607 Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you've got like a critical allergy that 515 00:22:38,727 --> 00:22:40,727 Speaker 1: of course you need to let your host know. But 516 00:22:40,807 --> 00:22:43,807 Speaker 1: also offer to bring your own stuff. Like my friends 517 00:22:43,807 --> 00:22:46,527 Speaker 1: who are vegan, you know, they're like, but I'll bring 518 00:22:46,567 --> 00:22:48,887 Speaker 1: a salad, or I'll bring don't worry, I'll eat around it, 519 00:22:49,047 --> 00:22:49,847 Speaker 1: or you know. 520 00:22:50,047 --> 00:22:51,967 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of gluten free people I know make 521 00:22:52,007 --> 00:22:54,287 Speaker 4: a great gluten free Is it love that? Yeah? 522 00:22:54,367 --> 00:22:56,567 Speaker 1: Don't give your host a job offered to help you host. 523 00:22:56,847 --> 00:23:00,927 Speaker 4: Last one is about the politics of the goodbye. And 524 00:23:00,927 --> 00:23:04,207 Speaker 4: this is about a lot of people say never say goodbye. 525 00:23:04,367 --> 00:23:05,167 Speaker 1: It's a buzzkill. 526 00:23:05,367 --> 00:23:07,567 Speaker 4: Agree, send a text a day after they're all about 527 00:23:07,567 --> 00:23:10,727 Speaker 4: the Irish exit. They say that going over is just 528 00:23:10,927 --> 00:23:12,487 Speaker 4: because then it's like, oh, why are you leaving now, 529 00:23:12,527 --> 00:23:15,607 Speaker 4: and it's just like this really awkward thing. Totally agree. 530 00:23:15,887 --> 00:23:19,007 Speaker 4: I think that you never say goodbye in person for 531 00:23:19,167 --> 00:23:20,887 Speaker 4: six people, that's. 532 00:23:20,687 --> 00:23:23,407 Speaker 1: Just really hard. I'm just going to the door. You'd 533 00:23:23,447 --> 00:23:24,527 Speaker 1: never come back out the door. 534 00:23:24,647 --> 00:23:24,687 Speaker 2: No. 535 00:23:24,807 --> 00:23:26,247 Speaker 3: I love saying bye to the host. I don't make 536 00:23:26,287 --> 00:23:27,967 Speaker 3: a big deal out of it as I'm like bye 537 00:23:27,967 --> 00:23:30,527 Speaker 3: everyone by everyone. I'll go to the host privately and 538 00:23:30,567 --> 00:23:31,567 Speaker 3: be like I'm going to head up. 539 00:23:31,607 --> 00:23:33,367 Speaker 4: But the host is never in private. The host is 540 00:23:33,367 --> 00:23:35,247 Speaker 4: always around five people, and then you've got to stay 541 00:23:35,287 --> 00:23:36,807 Speaker 4: by it. And then everyone's a kiss on the cheek 542 00:23:36,847 --> 00:23:39,487 Speaker 4: and now I needed to leave him, and it's going 543 00:23:39,527 --> 00:23:42,487 Speaker 4: to Uber's there, and now I'm being charged for kissing. 544 00:23:43,087 --> 00:23:45,447 Speaker 1: And you can also start a wave of everybody leaving, 545 00:23:45,447 --> 00:23:48,807 Speaker 1: which for some hosts me that can be great start awave. 546 00:23:49,167 --> 00:23:52,767 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll have packs with my friends. Yeah, because 547 00:23:52,767 --> 00:23:55,087 Speaker 1: if they'll be like someone coming, that is a stayer. 548 00:23:56,047 --> 00:23:59,447 Speaker 1: So we've got a pat where it's like okay, at 549 00:23:59,447 --> 00:24:03,607 Speaker 1: eleven o'clock, I'll get up and loudly announce okay, time 550 00:24:03,647 --> 00:24:05,927 Speaker 1: to go home, and I will deliberately start a wave 551 00:24:06,567 --> 00:24:08,607 Speaker 1: of let's all leave now. 552 00:24:08,887 --> 00:24:13,407 Speaker 5: Start throwing wine glasses in the sink. Yeah style, Yeah, 553 00:24:13,647 --> 00:24:15,167 Speaker 5: blow out a candle like just. 554 00:24:15,847 --> 00:24:19,967 Speaker 1: My husband just starts stacking the dish rusher like early, he'll. 555 00:24:19,767 --> 00:24:22,007 Speaker 3: Go to bed. Yeah, take your flowers back, take it 556 00:24:22,007 --> 00:24:22,567 Speaker 3: out of the bass. 557 00:24:22,847 --> 00:24:26,167 Speaker 4: You'll throw These are mine now for our to dad 558 00:24:26,247 --> 00:24:28,927 Speaker 4: get out parties over out Louders. I want to know 559 00:24:29,287 --> 00:24:31,847 Speaker 4: your etiquette rules. Please jump into the out Louders group. 560 00:24:32,447 --> 00:24:35,647 Speaker 4: What are your rules for hosting, for being a guest, 561 00:24:35,727 --> 00:24:36,647 Speaker 4: for saying goodbye? 562 00:24:36,727 --> 00:24:37,447 Speaker 5: For what to bring? 563 00:24:38,367 --> 00:24:39,927 Speaker 1: I find these really really helpful. 564 00:24:40,047 --> 00:24:41,847 Speaker 4: I think I just I need a clear guide because 565 00:24:41,847 --> 00:24:43,287 Speaker 4: I'm just breaking these rules all the time. 566 00:24:45,127 --> 00:24:48,247 Speaker 2: This month, mum and me are turned seventeen. We know 567 00:24:48,367 --> 00:24:51,407 Speaker 2: birthdays aren't all that exciting when they're not well your birthday, 568 00:24:52,567 --> 00:24:54,927 Speaker 2: there aren't enough presents, So we want to take this 569 00:24:55,047 --> 00:24:57,167 Speaker 2: as a chance to give you a treat and say 570 00:24:57,247 --> 00:24:59,207 Speaker 2: thank you for being on the ride with us. 571 00:24:59,367 --> 00:25:01,487 Speaker 1: Right now, you can get twenty dollars off a yearly 572 00:25:01,567 --> 00:25:05,087 Speaker 1: Mumma me a subscription with the code out Loud Birthday. 573 00:25:05,327 --> 00:25:07,447 Speaker 2: The offer is valid till the end of June and 574 00:25:07,487 --> 00:25:10,087 Speaker 2: you will find all the details how to do that 575 00:25:10,207 --> 00:25:11,087 Speaker 2: in the show notes. 576 00:25:11,367 --> 00:25:22,847 Speaker 1: Enjoy my Friends. It's Friday, so we want to help 577 00:25:22,887 --> 00:25:24,967 Speaker 1: set up your weekend with some things to do our 578 00:25:25,007 --> 00:25:27,727 Speaker 1: best recommendations. We used to do this on every show. 579 00:25:27,767 --> 00:25:29,727 Speaker 1: We now save it for Fridays so that we can 580 00:25:29,727 --> 00:25:32,527 Speaker 1: all be a little bit looser and a little bit more, 581 00:25:32,807 --> 00:25:35,127 Speaker 1: you know, have a bit more breathing space with our eCos. 582 00:25:35,167 --> 00:25:36,407 Speaker 1: And I'm going to start with you. 583 00:25:36,807 --> 00:25:41,367 Speaker 3: I'm recommending a newsletter by Culture Vulture. They titled it, 584 00:25:41,487 --> 00:25:44,367 Speaker 3: am I Unconfident? Or am I just thinking about myself 585 00:25:44,407 --> 00:25:47,887 Speaker 3: too much? It was hooked off an Instagram story by 586 00:25:48,007 --> 00:25:50,727 Speaker 3: Jemiam Kirk. She's an actor. You might know how she 587 00:25:50,767 --> 00:25:52,607 Speaker 3: played Jessa from Girls. 588 00:25:52,887 --> 00:25:55,607 Speaker 1: And Sex Education. She played the principle she did. 589 00:25:56,087 --> 00:25:59,327 Speaker 3: She's brilliant and a lot of people think that when 590 00:25:59,327 --> 00:26:01,927 Speaker 3: she's on Instagram she kind of takes on the personality 591 00:26:02,247 --> 00:26:04,807 Speaker 3: of Jessa because she does these q and a's, which 592 00:26:04,847 --> 00:26:07,767 Speaker 3: a lot of celebrities do, like ask me anythings, but 593 00:26:07,927 --> 00:26:10,927 Speaker 3: her answers are just so rogue and unexpected. 594 00:26:11,447 --> 00:26:12,647 Speaker 1: She's quite ruthless. 595 00:26:12,767 --> 00:26:13,967 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's quite rueless. 596 00:26:13,967 --> 00:26:14,407 Speaker 1: So she's right. 597 00:26:14,407 --> 00:26:17,207 Speaker 3: Now. She has a clothing brand and someone asked her, 598 00:26:17,727 --> 00:26:20,167 Speaker 3: are your clothes just for skinny women? And she's like, no, 599 00:26:20,207 --> 00:26:25,727 Speaker 3: my clothes are for rich women. She's so funny. So 600 00:26:26,007 --> 00:26:29,167 Speaker 3: someone asked her do you have any advice for unconfident 601 00:26:29,287 --> 00:26:32,447 Speaker 3: young women? And she replied with the selfie looking super hot, 602 00:26:32,687 --> 00:26:34,727 Speaker 3: and the text on the screen read, I think you 603 00:26:34,767 --> 00:26:36,767 Speaker 3: guys might be thinking about yourself too much. 604 00:26:37,767 --> 00:26:40,367 Speaker 1: I don't understand. Is that ironic? No? 605 00:26:40,367 --> 00:26:42,287 Speaker 3: No, I think she's actually being genuine. 606 00:26:42,407 --> 00:26:42,727 Speaker 1: Yes. 607 00:26:42,767 --> 00:26:46,887 Speaker 4: And this newsletter that M sent around is so clever 608 00:26:47,047 --> 00:26:50,647 Speaker 4: because it's basically interrogating that idea that if you are 609 00:26:50,687 --> 00:26:54,967 Speaker 4: sitting around worried about your own confidence. Oh, I say, 610 00:26:55,927 --> 00:26:59,727 Speaker 4: she's sort of looking at gen Z's and going, if 611 00:26:59,807 --> 00:27:03,247 Speaker 4: you're having a crisis of confidence, stop with Nabel gazing. 612 00:27:03,007 --> 00:27:04,967 Speaker 1: Which is the opposite of what I would think, because 613 00:27:05,007 --> 00:27:07,567 Speaker 1: it was like, am I overconfident? 614 00:27:08,287 --> 00:27:08,487 Speaker 2: You know? 615 00:27:08,527 --> 00:27:10,687 Speaker 1: I would have thought thing about yourself too much is 616 00:27:10,727 --> 00:27:15,047 Speaker 1: a sign of over confidence. But and to me, certainly, 617 00:27:15,127 --> 00:27:20,727 Speaker 1: jen Z are hugely confident, like way more confident than 618 00:27:20,767 --> 00:27:24,007 Speaker 1: my generation Gen X. Ever, were like with your g 619 00:27:24,167 --> 00:27:30,047 Speaker 1: string bikinis and your selfies and your boundaries. Do you 620 00:27:30,127 --> 00:27:33,727 Speaker 1: think I think we as insecure as we were. 621 00:27:34,087 --> 00:27:36,207 Speaker 3: I think I am a bit insecure. But I think 622 00:27:36,327 --> 00:27:38,687 Speaker 3: what we try to do in my generation, and I'm 623 00:27:38,727 --> 00:27:41,727 Speaker 3: generalizing here just from my experience, is that I'm always 624 00:27:41,767 --> 00:27:44,527 Speaker 3: trying to better myself. So I think the reason why 625 00:27:44,567 --> 00:27:47,367 Speaker 3: I come across over confident is because I've probably read 626 00:27:47,407 --> 00:27:50,727 Speaker 3: an article that said ten ways to be confident. I 627 00:27:50,847 --> 00:27:55,247 Speaker 3: try to do it because I don't think like, especially 628 00:27:55,247 --> 00:27:57,527 Speaker 3: when it comes to work. If like the two of you, 629 00:27:57,567 --> 00:27:59,687 Speaker 3: for example, were to like compliment me and be like 630 00:27:59,727 --> 00:28:02,087 Speaker 3: you were great on out loud that PC right was great, 631 00:28:02,247 --> 00:28:03,967 Speaker 3: I don't hear that. I'm always like, but what was 632 00:28:03,967 --> 00:28:04,567 Speaker 3: your feedback? 633 00:28:04,607 --> 00:28:04,647 Speaker 1: Like? 634 00:28:04,687 --> 00:28:05,807 Speaker 3: How do I better myself? 635 00:28:05,847 --> 00:28:05,927 Speaker 1: Like? 636 00:28:05,967 --> 00:28:09,767 Speaker 3: How do I I'm constantly thinking about myself, thinking about 637 00:28:09,887 --> 00:28:12,367 Speaker 3: a PCO, something about my imagines, miss something about it. 638 00:28:12,367 --> 00:28:15,327 Speaker 3: If I was funny, I think I think about it. 639 00:28:15,927 --> 00:28:17,447 Speaker 5: Confidence is found in doing it. 640 00:28:17,447 --> 00:28:19,887 Speaker 3: I'm going to think about well exactly, but then when 641 00:28:19,887 --> 00:28:22,527 Speaker 3: does it end? Like I think about like everything that's 642 00:28:22,567 --> 00:28:25,007 Speaker 3: going on with me all the time, But like. 643 00:28:25,927 --> 00:28:27,127 Speaker 1: But that isn't that your job? 644 00:28:27,887 --> 00:28:28,647 Speaker 3: Is it? You? 645 00:28:28,687 --> 00:28:32,127 Speaker 1: Don't have a dog. No, you don't have a partner. 646 00:28:32,167 --> 00:28:35,927 Speaker 3: This is going to sound really sad. Keep going, I 647 00:28:35,967 --> 00:28:37,047 Speaker 3: do have a plant's pretty dead. 648 00:28:37,087 --> 00:28:38,807 Speaker 1: You've got a vagina, and you think about that. I 649 00:28:39,727 --> 00:28:41,647 Speaker 1: think about your vagina because I don't really think about 650 00:28:41,647 --> 00:28:43,487 Speaker 1: your vagina. It's only kidding. Be weird if I did. 651 00:28:43,527 --> 00:28:45,367 Speaker 3: But that's the other thing, because I'm thinking like everyone 652 00:28:45,407 --> 00:28:46,767 Speaker 3: else is also thinking about me. 653 00:28:48,087 --> 00:28:50,327 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So maybe that's where the lack of confidence 654 00:28:50,367 --> 00:28:52,367 Speaker 4: comes from. It's like you realize that you're just like, 655 00:28:52,407 --> 00:28:54,487 Speaker 4: no one's thinking about you. I reckon more articles you 656 00:28:54,487 --> 00:28:56,407 Speaker 4: read about how to get confident, the less confident you're 657 00:28:56,407 --> 00:28:57,087 Speaker 4: gonna feel. 658 00:28:56,967 --> 00:28:59,087 Speaker 1: Which is what Jamia Kirk was saying exactly. 659 00:28:59,567 --> 00:29:01,567 Speaker 4: I'm going to jump in with reco. Have you too 660 00:29:01,607 --> 00:29:04,127 Speaker 4: heard of The Iron Claw, the movie with Zach Oh. 661 00:29:04,207 --> 00:29:07,087 Speaker 3: Yes. It looks so hot as Jeremy Allen White and 662 00:29:07,247 --> 00:29:08,207 Speaker 3: another really good looking. 663 00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:10,367 Speaker 1: It sounds like a Marvel is it? 664 00:29:10,367 --> 00:29:11,967 Speaker 5: It is brilliant. 665 00:29:12,087 --> 00:29:14,407 Speaker 3: So everyone I know in my life who's seen this. 666 00:29:14,487 --> 00:29:15,647 Speaker 5: Was like, you need to watch it. 667 00:29:15,527 --> 00:29:18,367 Speaker 4: It's based on a true story, which is the most 668 00:29:18,367 --> 00:29:22,007 Speaker 4: heartbreaking part. It's about a family named the von Erics's 669 00:29:22,407 --> 00:29:24,287 Speaker 4: who were at the top of the wrestling world in 670 00:29:24,287 --> 00:29:26,847 Speaker 4: the nineteen eighties. I get it, you're out. I don't 671 00:29:26,887 --> 00:29:28,847 Speaker 4: like wrestling either. I still don't care about wrestling. 672 00:29:29,007 --> 00:29:29,887 Speaker 1: Recommend it's not. 673 00:29:29,847 --> 00:29:30,367 Speaker 5: What it's about. 674 00:29:30,487 --> 00:29:33,527 Speaker 4: It is this really tragic, like the way that the 675 00:29:33,527 --> 00:29:34,367 Speaker 4: story unfolds. 676 00:29:35,807 --> 00:29:38,887 Speaker 6: Ever since I was a child, people said my family 677 00:29:38,927 --> 00:29:42,487 Speaker 6: was cursed. Well, I'm tried to protect us with God. 678 00:29:44,207 --> 00:29:46,727 Speaker 6: Tried to protect us with wrestling. He said, if we 679 00:29:46,727 --> 00:29:50,047 Speaker 6: were the toughest, the strongest, nothing it had ever hurt us. 680 00:29:51,887 --> 00:29:56,967 Speaker 4: I believed zac Efron his performance in this film is 681 00:29:57,047 --> 00:30:00,887 Speaker 4: just so beyond anything you would ever imagine for him. 682 00:30:01,167 --> 00:30:03,287 Speaker 4: Now speaking to a friend and we were saying, he 683 00:30:03,367 --> 00:30:05,487 Speaker 4: will have an Academy Award in two years. Like he's 684 00:30:05,487 --> 00:30:12,127 Speaker 4: setting himself up as such a serious, distinc wished outstanding performer. 685 00:30:12,327 --> 00:30:13,527 Speaker 5: He carries this film. 686 00:30:13,647 --> 00:30:15,687 Speaker 1: Can you just remind me, because when I think of 687 00:30:15,767 --> 00:30:19,767 Speaker 1: zac Efron, I think high school musical, but then went on. 688 00:30:19,727 --> 00:30:20,767 Speaker 5: To Bad Neighbors. 689 00:30:21,247 --> 00:30:22,927 Speaker 3: Yeah, likes become. 690 00:30:22,607 --> 00:30:26,127 Speaker 1: Almost almost like the rock like almost like a joke, 691 00:30:26,367 --> 00:30:30,847 Speaker 1: like very pumped up, very muscly, very seemingly quite a 692 00:30:30,887 --> 00:30:31,567 Speaker 1: lot of surgery. 693 00:30:31,687 --> 00:30:33,527 Speaker 4: Well he's that in this And I thought that the 694 00:30:33,527 --> 00:30:37,367 Speaker 4: surgery would be distracting, but it works with this era 695 00:30:37,687 --> 00:30:38,687 Speaker 4: because the era. 696 00:30:38,887 --> 00:30:40,047 Speaker 1: So he plays a wrestler. 697 00:30:40,127 --> 00:30:42,527 Speaker 4: He plays a wrestler and he's massive, and so is 698 00:30:42,607 --> 00:30:45,207 Speaker 4: Jeremy Allen White. Yeah, because they're all brothers, so they're 699 00:30:45,207 --> 00:30:48,047 Speaker 4: built quite similarly. But the way in which they're able 700 00:30:48,087 --> 00:30:53,367 Speaker 4: to juxtapose the strength of their bodies with the vulnerability 701 00:30:53,527 --> 00:30:56,687 Speaker 4: of what's happening to them is quite remarkable to watch 702 00:30:56,687 --> 00:30:59,487 Speaker 4: on film. Lily James is in it as well, But 703 00:30:59,527 --> 00:31:03,407 Speaker 4: it's basically about these four brothers and their father is 704 00:31:03,447 --> 00:31:05,047 Speaker 4: like obsessed with them being at the top of this 705 00:31:05,127 --> 00:31:09,407 Speaker 4: wrestling world, and it's like you would not believe the 706 00:31:09,687 --> 00:31:11,647 Speaker 4: bad life they believe there's a curse on them and 707 00:31:11,767 --> 00:31:13,607 Speaker 4: what happens to each of these brothers and you just go, 708 00:31:13,687 --> 00:31:16,607 Speaker 4: this can't be true. This can't be true. So it's 709 00:31:16,607 --> 00:31:20,647 Speaker 4: called The Iron Claw. It's currently on Apple TV. Get 710 00:31:20,687 --> 00:31:21,367 Speaker 4: the tissues out. 711 00:31:21,527 --> 00:31:23,967 Speaker 3: It's it's really sad, but it's really really good. 712 00:31:24,207 --> 00:31:27,127 Speaker 1: Is He also in that movie that's out today with 713 00:31:27,247 --> 00:31:32,767 Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman where she's with a younger guy, so she's 714 00:31:32,807 --> 00:31:36,927 Speaker 1: with like her daughter's boss or something. It's very like 715 00:31:36,967 --> 00:31:41,687 Speaker 1: the idea of you. Yeah, and it's called family affair 716 00:31:41,887 --> 00:31:45,127 Speaker 1: or something, and I really want to talk about it 717 00:31:45,167 --> 00:31:46,367 Speaker 1: next week, so I. 718 00:31:46,327 --> 00:31:47,207 Speaker 5: Can't watch that. 719 00:31:47,607 --> 00:31:50,367 Speaker 4: I love Zach, I have a very interesting here's my 720 00:31:50,367 --> 00:31:51,167 Speaker 4: first crush. 721 00:31:51,247 --> 00:31:53,647 Speaker 1: I've got another thing that I want to talk about 722 00:31:54,007 --> 00:31:57,007 Speaker 1: for next week that I've started watching on Holly's recommendation, 723 00:31:57,047 --> 00:31:59,567 Speaker 1: which is America's Sweethearts, and it is like, if you 724 00:31:59,687 --> 00:32:03,447 Speaker 1: like to cheer about the cheer squad, it's that, but 725 00:32:03,487 --> 00:32:07,367 Speaker 1: it's about the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. You need to look 726 00:32:07,447 --> 00:32:09,167 Speaker 1: like a supermodel, but perform like an app. 727 00:32:10,407 --> 00:32:14,167 Speaker 3: Once that uniform comes on, all of the flaws. 728 00:32:13,847 --> 00:32:17,967 Speaker 1: And the problems goes out the door. To hear a 729 00:32:18,007 --> 00:32:23,647 Speaker 1: crowd like that roar for you, it's almost you for it. 730 00:32:28,007 --> 00:32:31,487 Speaker 1: And they are different to like the cheer style in cheer, 731 00:32:31,487 --> 00:32:34,047 Speaker 1: which is all about acrobatics and throwing you in the air. 732 00:32:34,247 --> 00:32:38,767 Speaker 1: They're like dancers, but sexy, very sexy dancers. And what's 733 00:32:38,807 --> 00:32:42,527 Speaker 1: so interesting because there's only two groups of cheerleaders that 734 00:32:42,607 --> 00:32:45,127 Speaker 1: are sort of famous that I know of. There's the 735 00:32:45,607 --> 00:32:48,127 Speaker 1: La Lakers, like the Laker Girls, and then there's the 736 00:32:48,247 --> 00:32:52,407 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. And this follows the class of twenty 737 00:32:52,447 --> 00:32:55,527 Speaker 1: twenty three because they've got the women that are called 738 00:32:55,527 --> 00:32:57,927 Speaker 1: the veterans that were existing. And then every year everybody 739 00:32:58,007 --> 00:33:00,567 Speaker 1: has to reaudition, So all the veterans, of which there 740 00:33:00,567 --> 00:33:03,487 Speaker 1: were like thirty six have to reaudition, and hundreds of 741 00:33:03,567 --> 00:33:06,727 Speaker 1: new people apply, the rookies, and then there's these big 742 00:33:06,767 --> 00:33:09,647 Speaker 1: auditions and like some of the veterans get but if 743 00:33:09,687 --> 00:33:12,047 Speaker 1: they're lost form or they're not as good, or there 744 00:33:12,047 --> 00:33:14,087 Speaker 1: are people that are better than them among the rookies, 745 00:33:14,567 --> 00:33:16,167 Speaker 1: and then they all I'm up to episode two. They 746 00:33:16,167 --> 00:33:19,367 Speaker 1: all go to like a training camp, and what's fascinating 747 00:33:19,527 --> 00:33:22,167 Speaker 1: is about they call it the Pink Economy where the 748 00:33:22,247 --> 00:33:25,647 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys it's like a multi multimillion dollar it's the 749 00:33:25,647 --> 00:33:29,087 Speaker 1: most profitable football team in the US League, and all 750 00:33:29,087 --> 00:33:32,607 Speaker 1: those players make millions and millions of dollars. The women, 751 00:33:33,127 --> 00:33:34,847 Speaker 1: most of them I don't even think get paid, or 752 00:33:34,847 --> 00:33:38,207 Speaker 1: they get paid like just barely, like part time, and 753 00:33:38,247 --> 00:33:39,607 Speaker 1: a lot of them have got full time jobs. They're 754 00:33:39,647 --> 00:33:42,407 Speaker 1: nurses there. It's barely a living wage, and they say 755 00:33:42,447 --> 00:33:44,007 Speaker 1: they do it for the honor. And then the two 756 00:33:44,047 --> 00:33:45,807 Speaker 1: or three women who run the team, who are like 757 00:33:45,807 --> 00:33:48,647 Speaker 1: in their fifties and they were Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders in 758 00:33:48,767 --> 00:33:50,807 Speaker 1: like the nineties. It follows them all the way from 759 00:33:50,847 --> 00:33:54,247 Speaker 1: auditions through training camp and then the NFL season. It's 760 00:33:54,287 --> 00:33:57,247 Speaker 1: everything that goes on behind the scenes. I'm absolutely loving it. 761 00:33:57,407 --> 00:33:58,287 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm going to watch that. 762 00:33:58,367 --> 00:34:01,087 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good. Out Louders. Before we move on 763 00:34:01,127 --> 00:34:03,127 Speaker 1: to best and Worst, we know how much you love 764 00:34:03,887 --> 00:34:07,967 Speaker 1: m Vernon co hosting out loud. We do love having 765 00:34:07,967 --> 00:34:10,807 Speaker 1: her on the show, and now she's got her own gig. 766 00:34:10,847 --> 00:34:11,567 Speaker 1: What is it, m. 767 00:34:11,687 --> 00:34:15,047 Speaker 3: I am writing the out Louders newsletter. A lot of 768 00:34:15,047 --> 00:34:17,127 Speaker 3: you have subscribed to it, but not all of you, 769 00:34:17,287 --> 00:34:19,407 Speaker 3: so I will be putting links in the out Louders 770 00:34:19,447 --> 00:34:21,647 Speaker 3: Facebook group. But I'm going to be writing it. It's 771 00:34:21,687 --> 00:34:23,367 Speaker 3: going to be pretty rogue. I can't go to rogu 772 00:34:23,367 --> 00:34:26,247 Speaker 3: because me is actually my editor for it. I'll try. 773 00:34:26,287 --> 00:34:26,647 Speaker 3: It's great. 774 00:34:26,647 --> 00:34:29,527 Speaker 1: So it's got all our recommendations in one place. It's 775 00:34:29,527 --> 00:34:32,847 Speaker 1: got your observations. You've made a very funny little hitter 776 00:34:32,967 --> 00:34:33,287 Speaker 1: for it. 777 00:34:33,327 --> 00:34:36,007 Speaker 3: I've added my face to the logo and lots behind 778 00:34:36,007 --> 00:34:38,687 Speaker 3: the scenes stuff that you wouldn't necessarily see otherwise. 779 00:34:38,887 --> 00:34:40,567 Speaker 1: So out Louders will put a link in the show notes. 780 00:34:40,727 --> 00:34:43,167 Speaker 1: Join us on the out Loud newsletter and get more 781 00:34:43,207 --> 00:34:44,207 Speaker 1: air in your eyes. 782 00:34:46,247 --> 00:34:48,047 Speaker 3: One unlimited out Loud access. 783 00:34:48,287 --> 00:34:52,367 Speaker 4: We drop episodes every Tuesday and Thursday exclusively for Mum 784 00:34:52,447 --> 00:34:55,447 Speaker 4: and Maya subscribers. Follow the link in the show notes 785 00:34:55,487 --> 00:34:58,007 Speaker 4: to get us in your ears five days a week. 786 00:34:58,087 --> 00:35:05,247 Speaker 4: And a huge thank you to all our current subscribers. 787 00:35:07,327 --> 00:35:10,327 Speaker 3: It is time for Best and this is a part 788 00:35:10,327 --> 00:35:12,407 Speaker 3: of the show where we give you a little personal 789 00:35:12,447 --> 00:35:15,927 Speaker 3: snippet of our lives, what we love, what we hated. Jesse, 790 00:35:16,287 --> 00:35:17,647 Speaker 3: do you want to go first? 791 00:35:18,087 --> 00:35:18,367 Speaker 1: Sure? 792 00:35:18,647 --> 00:35:23,887 Speaker 4: Look my worst was flying back from Europe from France 793 00:35:24,287 --> 00:35:25,887 Speaker 4: with a nearly one year old. It's one of the 794 00:35:25,887 --> 00:35:27,847 Speaker 4: hardest things I've ever done. I talked about being scared 795 00:35:27,847 --> 00:35:30,367 Speaker 4: about it on this podcast and a lot of people like, 796 00:35:30,407 --> 00:35:32,127 Speaker 4: it's not going to be that bad. It was that 797 00:35:32,207 --> 00:35:36,447 Speaker 4: bad and worst because I was by myself. So it 798 00:35:36,487 --> 00:35:39,287 Speaker 4: began with an issue, which was we were going to 799 00:35:39,327 --> 00:35:41,127 Speaker 4: board and they were like, we've just not given you 800 00:35:41,127 --> 00:35:42,327 Speaker 4: the right seat, we haven't given you a. 801 00:35:42,247 --> 00:35:43,047 Speaker 5: Basinette all that. 802 00:35:43,447 --> 00:35:45,327 Speaker 4: So I had to wait to be the last person 803 00:35:45,327 --> 00:35:47,127 Speaker 4: to board, So I had to stand at the boarding 804 00:35:47,127 --> 00:35:50,167 Speaker 4: gate for an hour with a one year old who 805 00:35:50,207 --> 00:35:52,287 Speaker 4: was losing it and isn't the privilege of having a 806 00:35:52,327 --> 00:35:52,847 Speaker 4: baby is. 807 00:35:52,847 --> 00:35:55,087 Speaker 5: That you get to go yeah, yeah. 808 00:35:54,807 --> 00:35:57,207 Speaker 3: And then imagine what could go wrong if you're the 809 00:35:57,247 --> 00:36:01,087 Speaker 3: last person on a plane. There's no overhead room, is there? 810 00:36:01,167 --> 00:36:02,967 Speaker 4: So you wouldn't want to have a bad bag that 811 00:36:03,127 --> 00:36:07,527 Speaker 4: has bottles and nappies and every clothes and everything. So 812 00:36:07,567 --> 00:36:09,567 Speaker 4: that had to come into a different part of the plane, 813 00:36:09,567 --> 00:36:13,527 Speaker 4: which interestingly was ahead of me and had fifty two 814 00:36:13,887 --> 00:36:18,447 Speaker 4: premium economy seats that reclined that were empty. It was 815 00:36:18,487 --> 00:36:21,447 Speaker 4: an empty cabin where they put my bag. And I 816 00:36:21,487 --> 00:36:23,567 Speaker 4: was like, I've got my dear, how about me and 817 00:36:23,687 --> 00:36:25,847 Speaker 4: my manic one year old have this whole cabin to U. 818 00:36:25,967 --> 00:36:27,447 Speaker 5: No, that's not how they went to be close to 819 00:36:27,567 --> 00:36:27,967 Speaker 5: my bag. 820 00:36:28,047 --> 00:36:30,167 Speaker 3: Yeah, then we got stuck on the Your bag got 821 00:36:30,167 --> 00:36:32,767 Speaker 3: premium economy, yes, and I got. 822 00:36:32,807 --> 00:36:36,647 Speaker 4: Ucks sat in in economy. Anyway, we got stuck on 823 00:36:36,647 --> 00:36:39,167 Speaker 4: the tarmac for one hour. And that was the first 824 00:36:39,207 --> 00:36:40,607 Speaker 4: hour after you twenty. 825 00:36:40,407 --> 00:36:42,447 Speaker 1: Gate for an hour like waiting to get on the plane. 826 00:36:42,447 --> 00:36:44,127 Speaker 4: So I'm just going you've got twenty four hour journey. 827 00:36:44,127 --> 00:36:46,407 Speaker 4: You've got twenty four hour journey with a child on you, 828 00:36:46,607 --> 00:36:49,567 Speaker 4: and then we sit on the tarmac, sit on the tarmac. 829 00:36:49,927 --> 00:36:52,247 Speaker 4: Then I went to get something from my bag because 830 00:36:52,287 --> 00:36:53,847 Speaker 4: she had a nappy change, and they were like get. 831 00:36:53,687 --> 00:36:55,887 Speaker 3: Out of premium and yelled at by. 832 00:36:55,767 --> 00:36:58,847 Speaker 4: A flight attendant and I have this thing with yelled at. 833 00:36:59,327 --> 00:37:00,487 Speaker 4: She yelled at me and. 834 00:37:00,527 --> 00:37:01,967 Speaker 5: Was like you're not allowed to be in here. 835 00:37:02,447 --> 00:37:04,167 Speaker 4: I was like, I need to get my bag, and 836 00:37:04,207 --> 00:37:06,127 Speaker 4: she said, you've got to ask fly attend every time. 837 00:37:06,767 --> 00:37:08,327 Speaker 4: So anyway, then I was like trying to get something 838 00:37:08,367 --> 00:37:10,087 Speaker 4: from the overhead locker. I put her down on the 839 00:37:10,087 --> 00:37:12,207 Speaker 4: floor for a minute and this man's like, well, now 840 00:37:12,207 --> 00:37:14,767 Speaker 4: she's got all the viruses. And I was like, I actually, 841 00:37:15,047 --> 00:37:16,327 Speaker 4: I'm gonna punch you in the face. 842 00:37:16,367 --> 00:37:17,327 Speaker 3: I'm going to cry for you. 843 00:37:17,887 --> 00:37:21,407 Speaker 4: Well, I was sitting there this first leg. She just 844 00:37:21,447 --> 00:37:23,647 Speaker 4: wouldn't sleep, and I'm holding her, going go to sleep, 845 00:37:23,687 --> 00:37:25,487 Speaker 4: go to sleep, and she's just hitting me in the 846 00:37:25,687 --> 00:37:28,247 Speaker 4: just smacking me in the face for most of the thing. 847 00:37:28,927 --> 00:37:31,567 Speaker 4: And then like tears start rolling down my face and 848 00:37:31,567 --> 00:37:33,927 Speaker 4: I'm like I'm not going to give this flight attendant 849 00:37:34,447 --> 00:37:35,967 Speaker 4: the privilege of cry. 850 00:37:36,847 --> 00:37:37,127 Speaker 3: So I. 851 00:37:39,207 --> 00:37:41,647 Speaker 5: Go to the toilet to just privately sep because I was. 852 00:37:41,607 --> 00:37:44,127 Speaker 1: Like I feel so trapped with the baby. 853 00:37:44,167 --> 00:37:46,447 Speaker 4: With the baby who was gonna give on the floor 854 00:37:46,487 --> 00:37:50,207 Speaker 4: side attendant. And I had my periods, so every time 855 00:37:50,207 --> 00:37:51,887 Speaker 4: I had to change my tampon, I had to do 856 00:37:51,927 --> 00:37:54,567 Speaker 4: it with a baby in one arm and then do 857 00:37:54,687 --> 00:37:56,047 Speaker 4: my tampon with the other hands. 858 00:37:56,047 --> 00:37:57,727 Speaker 3: So that's what iron Claw should have been about. 859 00:37:59,807 --> 00:38:03,567 Speaker 5: That is to claw Jetty on a plane trying to 860 00:38:03,567 --> 00:38:08,167 Speaker 5: put in a tampon. So that was a night. 861 00:38:08,247 --> 00:38:11,687 Speaker 1: Trying to stop the baby touching any surface in the toilet. 862 00:38:11,367 --> 00:38:12,167 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. 863 00:38:12,367 --> 00:38:14,527 Speaker 4: And then even like we're sitting there, I didn't eat 864 00:38:14,767 --> 00:38:17,567 Speaker 4: or drink anything for twenty four hours because I knew 865 00:38:17,727 --> 00:38:19,407 Speaker 4: if I needed to eat, I couldn't. And she fell 866 00:38:19,407 --> 00:38:20,967 Speaker 4: asleep like I would just wear he. 867 00:38:20,927 --> 00:38:24,207 Speaker 1: Needed a nappy, one of those NASA nappies. 868 00:38:24,407 --> 00:38:26,047 Speaker 4: And then the guy next to me was eating and 869 00:38:26,087 --> 00:38:28,287 Speaker 4: then she just kept picking up his croissant and trying 870 00:38:28,287 --> 00:38:29,727 Speaker 4: to eat it, and I was like, that's rude, but 871 00:38:29,807 --> 00:38:31,687 Speaker 4: also like I have no energy left. 872 00:38:31,807 --> 00:38:34,687 Speaker 5: Look, that was one hour into flight, and then it 873 00:38:34,807 --> 00:38:35,487 Speaker 5: kept going. 874 00:38:36,407 --> 00:38:39,127 Speaker 1: It's also a miment because I imagine the whole thing. 875 00:38:39,127 --> 00:38:41,127 Speaker 1: You're like, okay, twenty four hours, and as we were 876 00:38:41,207 --> 00:38:45,287 Speaker 1: saying a few episodes ago, it's like increments of three 877 00:38:45,327 --> 00:38:47,927 Speaker 1: minutes that you can keep her attention, not even like 878 00:38:48,407 --> 00:38:50,767 Speaker 1: one minute. And as you were sitting there, like the 879 00:38:50,807 --> 00:38:52,967 Speaker 1: clock kept rolling back, so you were an app so 880 00:38:52,967 --> 00:38:54,527 Speaker 1: it was like, no, it's not twenty four hours, it's 881 00:38:54,567 --> 00:38:56,967 Speaker 1: twenty five hours. No it's twenty six hours. 882 00:38:57,087 --> 00:39:00,087 Speaker 4: It just kept going back, and then we were meant 883 00:39:00,127 --> 00:39:02,567 Speaker 4: to kind of have a few hours stop. And at 884 00:39:02,607 --> 00:39:04,207 Speaker 4: that age, all she wants to do is move like 885 00:39:04,247 --> 00:39:06,727 Speaker 4: she wants to practice her like pulling up her crawling 886 00:39:06,767 --> 00:39:10,047 Speaker 4: like they just get so like, look look at what 887 00:39:10,087 --> 00:39:13,047 Speaker 4: I can do. But we nearly missed our connecting flights, 888 00:39:13,047 --> 00:39:15,767 Speaker 4: so had to just run straight on onto the like prams 889 00:39:15,767 --> 00:39:18,367 Speaker 4: straight on. Try putting a pram down with a baby 890 00:39:18,367 --> 00:39:18,767 Speaker 4: in your arms. 891 00:39:18,807 --> 00:39:19,367 Speaker 3: Impossible. 892 00:39:19,687 --> 00:39:21,847 Speaker 4: Anyway, she did sleep on the second one for a 893 00:39:21,887 --> 00:39:23,887 Speaker 4: little bit, but I just sat there with my eyes 894 00:39:23,927 --> 00:39:27,207 Speaker 4: closed for eight hours, just with just tears going. This 895 00:39:27,287 --> 00:39:30,687 Speaker 4: is the great experience ever. It was how zero ten 896 00:39:30,847 --> 00:39:34,607 Speaker 4: will not do that again. But my best has been 897 00:39:35,127 --> 00:39:39,847 Speaker 4: not being on a plane, so like today great, not 898 00:39:39,887 --> 00:39:43,447 Speaker 4: on a plane today great. It's like I can drink water, 899 00:39:43,847 --> 00:39:47,527 Speaker 4: I can go to the toilet on my own two 900 00:39:47,567 --> 00:39:50,127 Speaker 4: hands for your tampon exactly right. I can use all 901 00:39:50,167 --> 00:39:52,607 Speaker 4: of my hands. It's just been amazing to not be 902 00:39:52,727 --> 00:39:54,207 Speaker 4: on a plane. May What was your worst? 903 00:39:54,367 --> 00:39:56,447 Speaker 1: My worst of the week is that my daughter is away, 904 00:39:56,687 --> 00:39:58,967 Speaker 1: so I have got to do all of her jobs, 905 00:39:59,647 --> 00:40:03,727 Speaker 1: and oh I love it. Actually I've outsourced most of 906 00:40:03,767 --> 00:40:05,807 Speaker 1: them to my son, but the ones I have to do, 907 00:40:06,327 --> 00:40:11,367 Speaker 1: including feeding my dog and medicating my dog. And to 908 00:40:11,447 --> 00:40:14,327 Speaker 1: medicate it, I have to put a medication in like 909 00:40:14,367 --> 00:40:18,287 Speaker 1: some a rolled up slice of like turkey yep, and 910 00:40:18,367 --> 00:40:22,527 Speaker 1: process turkey. And she loves the turkey and she like 911 00:40:22,967 --> 00:40:24,407 Speaker 1: there must be a trick to it that I don't know, 912 00:40:24,407 --> 00:40:26,887 Speaker 1: because every time she nearly bites off my finger. And 913 00:40:26,927 --> 00:40:29,367 Speaker 1: then the other thing that's hard is that I didn't 914 00:40:29,367 --> 00:40:31,047 Speaker 1: know how much food to give her, and apparently you 915 00:40:31,087 --> 00:40:32,847 Speaker 1: have to just the bottom of the bowl should have 916 00:40:32,847 --> 00:40:35,967 Speaker 1: been covered, like just not much food. Yeah, I didn't 917 00:40:36,007 --> 00:40:37,247 Speaker 1: know that. I was feeling out of the brim of 918 00:40:37,247 --> 00:40:39,647 Speaker 1: the bowl. And she's put on like five kilos in 919 00:40:39,687 --> 00:40:39,967 Speaker 1: a week. 920 00:40:40,167 --> 00:40:42,167 Speaker 3: This is like the opposite of webinars and competence. 921 00:40:42,127 --> 00:40:45,127 Speaker 1: It's going to be cranky much, It's so true. But 922 00:40:45,207 --> 00:40:47,687 Speaker 1: my best of the week is that because my daughter's away, 923 00:40:47,767 --> 00:40:49,927 Speaker 1: I've just taken over her room and I just hang 924 00:40:49,967 --> 00:40:52,487 Speaker 1: in there now because what no one tells you about 925 00:40:52,487 --> 00:40:54,807 Speaker 1: when you move in with someone is that you don't 926 00:40:54,807 --> 00:40:56,087 Speaker 1: have your own room anymore. 927 00:40:56,367 --> 00:40:58,207 Speaker 5: Yeah it's bullshit. Yeah, it's bullshit. 928 00:40:58,247 --> 00:41:03,447 Speaker 1: And so I really missed, particularly because I like a 929 00:41:03,527 --> 00:41:05,967 Speaker 1: lot of sensory stimulation. I like lights on, I like 930 00:41:06,087 --> 00:41:08,847 Speaker 1: music how I like it. I like the curtains open. 931 00:41:08,967 --> 00:41:12,567 Speaker 1: I like looking at my phone and having screens. I'm 932 00:41:12,607 --> 00:41:14,847 Speaker 1: surrounded by like five screens in the bed, like, I 933 00:41:14,887 --> 00:41:17,567 Speaker 1: love it, and I can't do that when I've got 934 00:41:17,607 --> 00:41:20,647 Speaker 1: to share room. Can you like with posters? So it's great. 935 00:41:20,687 --> 00:41:22,487 Speaker 1: I can do whatever I want. So I have the 936 00:41:22,527 --> 00:41:25,047 Speaker 1: dogs on the dead again because my husband at the minute, 937 00:41:25,047 --> 00:41:28,247 Speaker 1: I've got dogs in the bed, I've got crumbs everywhere 938 00:41:28,407 --> 00:41:31,847 Speaker 1: I eat in the bed, I've got screens everywhere. I 939 00:41:31,887 --> 00:41:35,607 Speaker 1: can do what I want. I feel like a. 940 00:41:34,287 --> 00:41:36,927 Speaker 5: Put grind on the on the door, do not enter. 941 00:41:37,167 --> 00:41:38,687 Speaker 3: Yeah this is so weird. 942 00:41:40,127 --> 00:41:43,967 Speaker 1: That's really great. I love my husband, but you know, 943 00:41:44,127 --> 00:41:46,887 Speaker 1: sharing a room like sometimes you just want It's. 944 00:41:46,727 --> 00:41:48,327 Speaker 3: Crazy when you get in a relationship and then you 945 00:41:48,527 --> 00:41:50,127 Speaker 3: forget that you have a roommate for the rest of 946 00:41:50,127 --> 00:41:50,487 Speaker 3: your life. 947 00:41:50,607 --> 00:41:51,607 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. 948 00:41:51,647 --> 00:41:53,967 Speaker 5: I never signed up for that. What's your worst end? 949 00:41:54,287 --> 00:41:57,647 Speaker 3: My worst is it was my sister's birthday on the weekend, 950 00:41:57,687 --> 00:42:00,407 Speaker 3: which just lovely. But the restaurant that we went to, 951 00:42:00,447 --> 00:42:03,847 Speaker 3: which was a beautiful restaurant, great food, no notes over there, 952 00:42:04,287 --> 00:42:07,647 Speaker 3: but they do this thing where they gave her like 953 00:42:07,807 --> 00:42:10,967 Speaker 3: eight margaritas that came one this big tower thing that 954 00:42:11,087 --> 00:42:14,567 Speaker 3: were hanging off this weird branchy metal tower and they 955 00:42:14,607 --> 00:42:17,047 Speaker 3: had like candles in it, like it was this big thing. 956 00:42:17,087 --> 00:42:18,727 Speaker 3: It was like it looked like a cake basically, they 957 00:42:18,807 --> 00:42:20,007 Speaker 3: made it look like a cake, but it was just 958 00:42:20,047 --> 00:42:23,327 Speaker 3: glasses of margarita. And the thing is is that it 959 00:42:23,407 --> 00:42:27,207 Speaker 3: wasn't heavy enough to be stable on the table, so 960 00:42:27,607 --> 00:42:29,087 Speaker 3: they put it in front of me, so I was 961 00:42:29,087 --> 00:42:30,527 Speaker 3: the one that was handing out the muggarita. 962 00:42:30,647 --> 00:42:32,567 Speaker 1: Did they do that thing where they stack all the 963 00:42:32,567 --> 00:42:34,607 Speaker 1: glasses and then they pulled the margarita at the top 964 00:42:34,647 --> 00:42:37,207 Speaker 1: and then it just cascades into the No. They went 965 00:42:37,207 --> 00:42:39,167 Speaker 1: to a wedding one time and they did that with champagne. 966 00:42:39,167 --> 00:42:40,407 Speaker 1: It was quite fe It looked it was the. 967 00:42:40,287 --> 00:42:42,447 Speaker 3: Same shape, but it was just like this metal thing 968 00:42:42,487 --> 00:42:45,047 Speaker 3: and they would hang the glasses on it. So I 969 00:42:45,087 --> 00:42:46,927 Speaker 3: was like pulling out the glasses. But I pulled them 970 00:42:46,927 --> 00:42:50,367 Speaker 3: all out from one side first, and then in slow motion, 971 00:42:50,807 --> 00:42:54,447 Speaker 3: I just saw it coming towards me. The whole tower 972 00:42:54,527 --> 00:42:57,847 Speaker 3: hit me. All the rest of the margaritas fell onto me, 973 00:42:57,967 --> 00:42:59,767 Speaker 3: onto the floor. They were glasses, It all smashed it. 974 00:42:59,847 --> 00:43:03,327 Speaker 3: We were so loud in the restaurant. And the issue 975 00:43:03,487 --> 00:43:05,887 Speaker 3: is is that when it happened, I was like, Oh, 976 00:43:05,927 --> 00:43:08,047 Speaker 3: that's so annoying, like all these wasted mugg reaitas. And 977 00:43:08,087 --> 00:43:09,647 Speaker 3: I was wearing black, so that thing was stay and 978 00:43:09,687 --> 00:43:12,527 Speaker 3: so I just wiping myself down. But then the way 979 00:43:12,807 --> 00:43:15,767 Speaker 3: my parents and family reacted made me feel like I 980 00:43:15,807 --> 00:43:19,847 Speaker 3: should have been more embarrassed, like immediately before, like them 981 00:43:19,887 --> 00:43:22,567 Speaker 3: even going, oh my god, what happened? Straight away my 982 00:43:22,607 --> 00:43:24,687 Speaker 3: dad was like, it's not your fault. It's not your fault. 983 00:43:25,967 --> 00:43:28,567 Speaker 3: I know it's not my fault, but it was it. 984 00:43:28,767 --> 00:43:31,967 Speaker 3: They should have had a properly stable margarita at least 985 00:43:32,007 --> 00:43:34,167 Speaker 3: told me like which ones to pull out first, Like I. 986 00:43:34,127 --> 00:43:35,927 Speaker 1: Was in there, they tell you it wasn't your fault. 987 00:43:36,207 --> 00:43:38,567 Speaker 3: I mean the restaurant, the restaurant and the way this came, 988 00:43:38,607 --> 00:43:40,847 Speaker 3: and they were like, we are so sorry. They were 989 00:43:40,847 --> 00:43:43,007 Speaker 3: like giving me towels. They were like, don't worry about 990 00:43:43,007 --> 00:43:45,407 Speaker 3: the table, we'll fix this. Just wipe, just go take 991 00:43:45,407 --> 00:43:50,687 Speaker 3: care of yourself. They did replace came, but yeah, no, 992 00:43:51,287 --> 00:43:52,287 Speaker 3: they gave us free margrator. 993 00:43:52,407 --> 00:43:54,967 Speaker 1: It's the noise when that happens and the whole restaurant 994 00:43:54,967 --> 00:43:56,047 Speaker 1: turns around to low. 995 00:43:56,047 --> 00:43:57,847 Speaker 4: And then you know that the people around your embarrassing. 996 00:43:57,847 --> 00:43:59,047 Speaker 4: And I had not a friend look at me and 997 00:43:59,047 --> 00:44:01,007 Speaker 4: go no one saw and I was like I wasn't embarrassed, 998 00:44:01,007 --> 00:44:01,847 Speaker 4: and who you just yelled. 999 00:44:01,927 --> 00:44:03,767 Speaker 3: And then like missus, boyfriend's like are you okay? And 1000 00:44:03,807 --> 00:44:05,607 Speaker 3: I'm like I'm I like what, Like I'm not gonna 1001 00:44:05,687 --> 00:44:09,127 Speaker 3: just a bit. It was just too much, just too much. 1002 00:44:10,047 --> 00:44:12,327 Speaker 3: My best is kind of connected to my worst. So 1003 00:44:12,367 --> 00:44:15,247 Speaker 3: it was my sister's birthday. And if you remember, if 1004 00:44:15,247 --> 00:44:17,087 Speaker 3: you listened to a few weeks ago when I was 1005 00:44:17,087 --> 00:44:19,527 Speaker 3: talking about my worst about not getting cake for my birthday, 1006 00:44:20,287 --> 00:44:22,767 Speaker 3: I think she listened to that episode because she allowed 1007 00:44:22,807 --> 00:44:25,287 Speaker 3: me to use her birthday as a way of also 1008 00:44:25,367 --> 00:44:26,767 Speaker 3: celebrating mine. 1009 00:44:26,767 --> 00:44:28,047 Speaker 1: As a corrective experience. 1010 00:44:28,367 --> 00:44:32,527 Speaker 3: She shared, She's so like low key, but I was like, no, 1011 00:44:32,567 --> 00:44:34,247 Speaker 3: you're gonna have the best. But I made her get 1012 00:44:34,247 --> 00:44:36,127 Speaker 3: dinner with me the night before. I made to get 1013 00:44:36,167 --> 00:44:37,967 Speaker 3: breakfast with me the day off. I made to get 1014 00:44:38,007 --> 00:44:40,367 Speaker 3: dinner with me the day after, and I got her 1015 00:44:40,407 --> 00:44:42,727 Speaker 3: a present like it was like I doted on her 1016 00:44:42,767 --> 00:44:44,327 Speaker 3: so much, and she was like, I just really want 1017 00:44:44,367 --> 00:44:46,607 Speaker 3: to go home. Like she was like, She's like, I'm 1018 00:44:46,647 --> 00:44:48,647 Speaker 3: happy to do this. She was like smiling the whole 1019 00:44:48,647 --> 00:44:49,167 Speaker 3: way through. 1020 00:44:52,727 --> 00:44:54,807 Speaker 1: What you wanted her to do next year. 1021 00:44:54,927 --> 00:44:56,607 Speaker 3: I ordered stuff at the table that I knew she 1022 00:44:56,607 --> 00:44:57,527 Speaker 3: didn't like. It was. 1023 00:44:59,567 --> 00:45:01,087 Speaker 1: I love that you were cosplays. 1024 00:45:01,087 --> 00:45:03,087 Speaker 3: I was playing the perfect. 1025 00:45:02,647 --> 00:45:05,887 Speaker 4: Birthday out louders, we know how many of you were 1026 00:45:05,967 --> 00:45:09,007 Speaker 4: riled up by the generational wealth chash that Holy May 1027 00:45:09,007 --> 00:45:11,847 Speaker 4: are in Jemma had the other week I was riled 1028 00:45:11,927 --> 00:45:14,967 Speaker 4: up to. I saw the clip on Instagram. If you 1029 00:45:15,007 --> 00:45:16,967 Speaker 4: don't follow us Mummy or out loud on Instagram, but 1030 00:45:17,007 --> 00:45:19,807 Speaker 4: I saw it and there were hundreds of comments, lots 1031 00:45:19,847 --> 00:45:22,487 Speaker 4: of really good points made by people about what generation 1032 00:45:22,607 --> 00:45:25,167 Speaker 4: had it worse off, and whether it's just that millennials 1033 00:45:25,167 --> 00:45:26,527 Speaker 4: are off gallivanting around the world. 1034 00:45:26,527 --> 00:45:27,887 Speaker 5: That's why they kind of thought a home. 1035 00:45:28,527 --> 00:45:30,807 Speaker 4: Well, we needed to get into the ring for a 1036 00:45:30,807 --> 00:45:34,167 Speaker 4: part two, and so we did that just for subscribers. 1037 00:45:34,287 --> 00:45:36,327 Speaker 5: There is a link in the show notes. 1038 00:45:37,487 --> 00:45:40,647 Speaker 1: That is all we have time for today and this week. 1039 00:45:40,687 --> 00:45:42,567 Speaker 1: A big thank you to all of you the out 1040 00:45:42,607 --> 00:45:45,887 Speaker 1: louders for listening to today's show. Give us a rating 1041 00:45:46,167 --> 00:45:48,807 Speaker 1: and a review in the podcast place. 1042 00:45:49,087 --> 00:45:51,287 Speaker 4: If you like the show, follow us may I can't 1043 00:45:51,287 --> 00:45:53,407 Speaker 4: believe that I don't follow my podcast and I often 1044 00:45:53,447 --> 00:45:55,127 Speaker 4: lose them. But if you go to the very top 1045 00:45:55,167 --> 00:45:57,767 Speaker 4: and your press follow, then it will pop up in 1046 00:45:57,807 --> 00:45:58,967 Speaker 4: your feed all the time. 1047 00:45:59,127 --> 00:46:01,287 Speaker 1: We will be back in your ears next week. We 1048 00:46:01,327 --> 00:46:04,127 Speaker 1: want to say thank you to our wonderful production crew. 1049 00:46:04,167 --> 00:46:07,527 Speaker 1: This episode was produced by Emmeline Gazillis. The assistant producer 1050 00:46:07,567 --> 00:46:10,807 Speaker 1: is Tarlie Blackman, with the audio product by Jacob Brown. 1051 00:46:11,207 --> 00:46:17,047 Speaker 1: Why I Driving is hard? Bye, come by, It's too hard. 1052 00:46:17,967 --> 00:46:20,887 Speaker 4: Shout out to any Mum and MEA subscribers listening. If 1053 00:46:20,887 --> 00:46:22,847 Speaker 4: you love the show and you want to support us, 1054 00:46:23,127 --> 00:46:26,727 Speaker 4: subscribing tomma Mia is the very best way to do so. 1055 00:46:26,767 --> 00:46:34,207 Speaker 4: There's a link in the episode description. If you made 1056 00:46:34,207 --> 00:46:35,807 Speaker 4: it all the way to the end, then there's a 1057 00:46:35,807 --> 00:46:39,287 Speaker 4: little treat popping in your feed. If you follow, it 1058 00:46:39,327 --> 00:46:44,087 Speaker 4: will just pop up. Imagine that for tomorrow. A Saturday Treat. 1059 00:46:44,447 --> 00:46:48,207 Speaker 4: It is an episode that we did, very special episode 1060 00:46:48,287 --> 00:46:52,127 Speaker 4: about color analysis. You're remembers, We're obsessed. I tried to 1061 00:46:52,127 --> 00:46:54,527 Speaker 4: do color analysis on the podcast. I think I got 1062 00:46:54,527 --> 00:46:56,167 Speaker 4: Maya's right, and I got every other one wrong. You 1063 00:46:56,247 --> 00:46:59,127 Speaker 4: got me almost right, yeah, not far off. But then 1064 00:46:59,167 --> 00:47:01,167 Speaker 4: we thought maybe we should get an expert on who 1065 00:47:01,207 --> 00:47:03,087 Speaker 4: actually knows what she's talking about. 1066 00:47:03,167 --> 00:47:04,767 Speaker 5: And she came in, Kim. 1067 00:47:04,967 --> 00:47:07,967 Speaker 4: She told us what our season was, what clothes to wear, 1068 00:47:08,287 --> 00:47:11,247 Speaker 4: what colors everyone can wear, what colors no one should wear, 1069 00:47:11,807 --> 00:47:16,247 Speaker 4: make up, changing everything, and it has. It's changed my wardrobe, 1070 00:47:16,287 --> 00:47:19,727 Speaker 4: it has changed how I shop. I love her listens. 1071 00:47:19,727 --> 00:47:20,447 Speaker 4: It's so fun.