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Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix.

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Speaker 1: I'm Em Burnham and I'm Laura Brodnick.

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Speaker 3: And on the show today, we are talking about some

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Speaker 3: breaking news that's happened with Taylor Swift's Eras tour, not

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Speaker 3: very breaking, but breaking to us, as well as a

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Speaker 3: new movie that Jennifer Lawrence is working on.

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Speaker 1: But first, but first, big day frustrating TV because because

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Speaker 1: yesterday the nominations for this year's Logi Awards right now.

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Speaker 3: Hon' so jcy.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I was very into it this year because I

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Speaker 1: felt there are a lot of great TV shows and

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Speaker 1: movies and a lot of interesting new names on the list,

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Speaker 1: because you know, for a long time the Logis have

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Speaker 1: just been the same names across different categories, regurgitated over

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Speaker 1: and over again. This year it felt new, felt fresh,

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Speaker 3: I love how you did your job and look through

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Speaker 3: all the category so I just looked at the Gold

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Speaker 3: LOGI nominee.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the Golgi because there is some controversy there.

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Speaker 1: But in Good News Best Lead Actress in a Drama,

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Speaker 1: We've got a Shad in there for Safe Home, which

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about it because I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people we've had her on the pod many times of

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Speaker 1: All Type. A lot of people know her as Cat

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Speaker 1: from the Bold Type. But she's done a lot of

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Speaker 1: interesting things.

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Speaker 3: Like Saddle Club Hello, before the Ball Type.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of interesting things since then. Actually, the

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Speaker 1: whole Best Lead Actress in a Drama category is stacked.

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Speaker 1: You've got a Shia d Annatore, who I love for

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Speaker 1: the news reader, Deborah Mailman, who should just be winning

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Speaker 1: every LOGI for Total Control. Phoebe Tonkin, she's not normally

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Speaker 1: on the list. She's in there for Boys Swallows Universe.

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Speaker 3: I forgot about boy Swallows in events.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that has swept a lot of the

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Speaker 1: different categories. It's going to pretty much be the night

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Speaker 1: of boy Swallows Universe at the Low Yes this year,

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Speaker 1: Rachel Griffiths for Total Control and Sigourney Weaver for The

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Speaker 1: Lost Flowers of Alice Heart Like, that is a stacked category,

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Speaker 1: so thick a winner, that's exciting.

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Speaker 3: That's when you know it's going to be really good

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Speaker 3: when you can't fick a winner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and so many names in there. And also

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Speaker 1: Best Lead Actress in a Comedy. Basically it's all about

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Speaker 1: So Best Lead Actress in a Comedy, You've got Celia

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Speaker 1: then Daniel Walker for gold Diggers, she's amazing, Denise Scott

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Speaker 1: for Mother and Son, Kate Box for Deadlock. Have you

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Speaker 1: It's on prime video. It's one of the best comedies,

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Speaker 1: comedies I've seen in years. Kitty finding And for Utopia,

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Speaker 1: she's amazing, and also Madeline Sammy for Deadlock. So it's

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Speaker 1: hard And the two Deadlock actresses are both in the

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Speaker 3: So they're both in lead yes.

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Speaker 1: Because they're co leads in the show. Yeah, So it's

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Speaker 1: both great that they both got nominated. Also, the Best

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Speaker 1: Supporting Actress race is completely stacked. It's kind of hard

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Speaker 1: breakout year. From the Bafts to the Logis. She lay

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Speaker 1: those categories. But yes, then we came to the Gold Logi,

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Speaker 1: interesting things here. You have a lot of the usual suspects,

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Speaker 1: Asha Ketty, Julia Morris, Larry Emder, Sonja Krueger who won

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Speaker 1: last year. Do you remember last year we were sitting

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Speaker 3: We should post that video. Yeah, it was just a

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Speaker 1: Not expecting, just because you had a few more favorites

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm in two minds about that, because I

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Speaker 1: it's the same list of people and the same people

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Speaker 1: is that Robert Irwin is nominated for a Goal LOGI.

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Speaker 1: New Talent more so than the goal log intense. It's

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Speaker 1: excited about there. And the logis are going to take

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Speaker 3: Was he deserves a goal last year. Anyone deserves a

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Speaker 1: Pretty very day.

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Speaker 3: So in surprising news, Taylor Swift is still making headlines.

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Speaker 3: I personally thought the buzz was dying down on her,

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Speaker 3: but I think that's because the Era's tour came and

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Speaker 1: Kind of like the buzz is never dying down down.

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Speaker 3: Like it's still all over my It's just so bizarre

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Speaker 1: Do you see people saying that Louis the littlest one

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Speaker 1: So she posted a selfie, which she rarely does. She

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Speaker 3: happy Birthday, made London shows are off to a splendid start,

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Speaker 3: and it also doubled up as a hard launch with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's the first time he'd appeared on her

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Speaker 1: That's why she can't follow anyone because they'd be politics

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Speaker 3: In twenty thirteen, they performed at a charity event with

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Speaker 3: They're besties in my opinion. So what was really interesting

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Speaker 1: Was He's almost canceled out. Bradley Cooper's dancing in her

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Speaker 3: Those London concerts were also flooded with other alest celebrities

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Speaker 3: such as Greta Gerwig, Jonathan Van Nass, Salmahayakkara Delavin, Nicola Coughlin,

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Speaker 3: Ashton Kuschen Milakunis. We're still on this kind of like

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Speaker 3: Hugh Grant and Tom Cruise. So Tom Cruise brought a

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Speaker 3: even though just days before, his daughter Suri celebrated her

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Speaker 1: Just tying himself to the Heiress tour. I also loved

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Speaker 3: And she did the same for June as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, kind of like creating a character or a

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Speaker 1: which is so interesting because she's really good friends with

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence, and I think one of the things that

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Speaker 1: they bond over is that they're so private is Emma Stone.

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Speaker 1: And she did it a lot. She's trying to do

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Speaker 1: it now with kinds of kindness, but people are really

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Speaker 1: intense about the sex scenes in the movie. But where

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Speaker 1: she did it really well was if you cast your

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Speaker 1: mind back to when she was doing all the Spider

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Speaker 1: Man promo and she and Andrew Garfield were dating in

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Speaker 1: they would do this thing where they would come out

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Speaker 1: written in the restaurant with like names of charities and

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Speaker 1: say like, we don't need the attention, go here, trying

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Speaker 3: Those And I'm like, oh, I just feel like a

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Speaker 3: creep now because I've looked up furtot of you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sign was for you, so like really trying

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Speaker 1: because there were so many movies there, Emma started talking

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Speaker 1: really intensely about the Spice Girls and how much she's

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Speaker 1: and then every interview, every red carpet, every big talk

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Speaker 1: show they did, so much became about her talking about

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Speaker 1: the Spice Girls and people pranking over the Spice Girls,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it had neutralized these intense

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Speaker 1: questions about their relationship. And then she came out of

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Speaker 1: it looking well, yeah, that is.

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Speaker 3: Actually brilliant what they're doing. And I like, how now

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Speaker 3: with Jennifer Lawrence, now she's making a movie about like

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Speaker 3: this interest that she's developed that's kind of helped her

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Speaker 3: keep her private life private. So do we think this

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Speaker 3: movie is like gonna be a bit meta where it's

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Speaker 3: about the housewives making a show about housewives and now

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Speaker 3: she's making a movie about the show about the housewives

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Speaker 3: or is it just about the housewives.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they haven't given like a lot of info, but

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be like a group of women who

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Speaker 1: and then a dead body turns up, maybe one of

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Speaker 1: their girl's trips or something, and then you have to

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Speaker 1: kind of solve the murder. It's going to be so good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like dives out well, yeah exactly. I feel like it

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Speaker 1: will be so No word on when that's coming out,

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Speaker 1: but apple Are Films has acquired the projects, so watch

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Speaker 1: your space.

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