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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded.

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Speaker 3: On Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it. Hello,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to you, beauty, the Daily podcast for your Face.

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Speaker 4: My name is Lei Campbell.

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Speaker 3: I'm Kella McCarran, and today is my birthday. You know

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Speaker 3: that I'm the worst person in the world.

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Speaker 2: Have you.

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Speaker 3: To me?

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Speaker 2: I won't ruin your birthday with my singing thank you birthday,

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Speaker 2: my beauty.

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Speaker 1: Really do not like it when people simple It's the

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Speaker 1: most awkward thing, like a get a point, no, don't

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Speaker 1: and then you've got to look around at yeah, I

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Speaker 1: what to do?

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Speaker 2: Okay, forget it. So what do we do on Mondays

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Speaker 2: besides having wonderful birthday?

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Speaker 3: Oh well, on Mondays we answer your questions.

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Speaker 1: And we've got two really fun ones for you today,

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Speaker 1: which is very fitting given I was born into the earth.

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Speaker 1: I was earthside. Do you know how people go? Babyborn

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Speaker 1: earth said? I became earthside today very long time ago.

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Speaker 1: So let's kick things off later on in the episode,

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Speaker 1: we have a very juicy question for you, but First,

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Speaker 1: we have a lovely you be asking a great question

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Speaker 1: about squalan. No, it's not really about squalene. It's just

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Speaker 1: about ingredients. But let's get into.

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Speaker 2: It, Hiley and Kelly, thanks to you too. I know

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Speaker 2: what hyaluronic acid is, and nice cinemaite and of course squylane.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask if there are any other lesser

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Speaker 2: known or not as popular ingredients that you love or

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Speaker 2: have heard about or are thinking that will become mainstream.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for teaching all us ubis. We are so

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Speaker 2: lucky to have you. Oh Serene, you and I have

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Speaker 2: a few double ups here.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's quite funny.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like every second press release I get

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Speaker 1: in my inbox at the moment the word the P word.

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Speaker 1: And also a couple of months ago we had the

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Speaker 1: House of Sephora event where they sort of have all

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Speaker 1: of the upcoming launchers. I swear to God, ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of the products.

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Speaker 2: Well, P word, pewort, we're talking about peptides. I had

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Speaker 2: the exact say, talking about peptides.

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Speaker 3: Baby.

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Speaker 2: So Sephora has a big showcase where all their brands

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Speaker 2: show what's new. When you go to each stand, it's

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Speaker 2: a lot, you know, it's amazing. But every brand was like,

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Speaker 2: we've got peptides in this lip product, We've got tides.

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Speaker 3: And convey this to each other earlier, like.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and peptides aren't something new, but they definitely.

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Speaker 2: So they're also an interesting ingredient because not all peptides

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Speaker 2: are cleared by the Therapeutic Goods Administration here in Australia,

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Speaker 2: so some products have peptides in America that can't come here.

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Speaker 2: Other countries you can inject peptides you can't hear, it's

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Speaker 2: not legal. Peptides are kind of a short, little chain

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Speaker 2: having peptides topically is firm, plump, youthful.

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Speaker 2: That's why they're in a lot of lip products specifically

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Speaker 4: We want collagen plumping pound exactly.

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Speaker 2: So you can get peptides through your diet, but applied

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Speaker 2: So you're going to see peptides in absolutely everything. Is

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Speaker 2: It is an antioxidant, so it's soothing, it's a moisturizer.

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Speaker 4: Have you got any more Urea?

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Speaker 2: I've got Urea, Ureka, Eureka Urea. I love Urea. It's

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Speaker 1: So it's commonly used in body cleanses moisturizers because it's

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Speaker 1: and it's one of the key ingredients in that Noturian barrier.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's just use it, but I reckon we're going

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Speaker 2: because it's quite contentious is growth factors. There's been growth

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Speaker 2: So there's a cult status brand from Iceland called Bioeffect.

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Speaker 1: So it's also quite hard to market like growth factors,

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Speaker 2: So I think that's probably a bit more down the road,

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Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, Nadia has a very pervy

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Speaker 4: I don't like the desert.

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Speaker 2: hot and beach locations. Oh my god, how exciting. You

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Speaker 2: or skincare anything. What are you grabbing and why? Firstly, Nadia,

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Speaker 2: I am not spontane. I need more time. I need

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Speaker 2: to know where we're going. Have you packed my clothes?

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Speaker 2: I am going to assume, and I think Kelly is too,

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Speaker 1: and that we can pack our own razor, toothpaste, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, our SBF because we've only got a minute. So Nadia,

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Speaker 2: like you're making me stressed.

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Speaker 1: The essentials are already there, I'm gonna say, right, So.

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Speaker 2: It's like literally run into your beauty and just grab it. Yes, okay, gosh,

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Speaker 1: So the first product I'm grabbing is the Benefit Cosmetics,

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Speaker 1: precisely my brow eyebrow pencil. It's got a tiny little

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Speaker 1: Next, I'm grabbing the Notorium Barrier Bounce. This product is

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Speaker 1: oh goodness. I can't stop talking about this product, but

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Speaker 1: I just love it. It's got the five percent squalene, two

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Speaker 1: percent your ear and a seramide complex in it. It's hydrating,

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Speaker 1: it's repairing, it's nourishing, it's every single thing it needs.

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Speaker 4: To be good or around it for all the places

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Speaker 3: Exactly, and you can use it morning or night.

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Speaker 1: Then I'm going to get the Tart Maracouser juicy eye

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Speaker 1: and cheek palate because that's got all of my cream

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Speaker 1: a bronze or contour cheeks, and then I can do

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Speaker 1: a fun eye because it's got a bunch of different

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Speaker 1: shades in there. I'm going to pack the Revlon Serum

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Speaker 1: Tint foundation because you can wear it as really light

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Speaker 1: coverage or you can build it up for a more intense,

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Speaker 1: like high coverage. Look if I was going out somewhere

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Speaker 1: fancy and packing the Home Beauty.

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Speaker 4: Concealer, which pretty muched.

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Speaker 1: The Tart Tubula mascara, of course, then I'm packing the

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Arden Green Tea body cream because it's really nourishing

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Speaker 1: for the body, but it smells beautiful, so I'm using

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Speaker 4: It's like a liquid line of it for your brows.

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Speaker 2: coming up after the break, I've got an old school

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Speaker 1: What a you makeup hacks?

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Speaker 4: Okay? So have you heard of cold cream?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So I love this. It's so old school, but it's

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Speaker 2: So probably the most famous one is the Pond's Cold Cream, which.

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Speaker 4: I think I am too.

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Speaker 2: I actually I got inspired by this because my mum

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Speaker 4: And she was like, no, duling. I bought it all

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Speaker 3: Mine is more like wise words.

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Speaker 1: It's like a little reminder to make sure that you

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Speaker 4: But I said that, No, that's what I'm just reminding

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Speaker 3: Yes, So that's why I'm saying this.

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Speaker 1: If you don't buy yourself or treat yourself to something

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Speaker 3: Just make sure that you do something nice.

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Speaker 4: I agree. So after we record, you're gonna go buy something?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I want to know what it is. Can you

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Speaker 4: tell us later?

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Speaker 1: Also, I know that this is very woo woo, and

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to remind everyone, Like, this is a

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Speaker 4: Fresh, fix your skin. Yeah, yeah, but it.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell Grantic it's great. Like when I hit

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Speaker 2: Kelly and I agree. I want you to go somewhere

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Speaker 2: after this record. Purchase purchase yourself a little beauty treat,

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Speaker 1: We will be back in your ears on Friday for

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Speaker 2: I have to let you in and then we'll chat beauty,

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Speaker 2: give us a review if you like us, and we'll

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Speaker 2: see you on Friday. The producer of You Beauty is

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Speaker 4: See you then bye,