1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:15,024 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,104 --> 00:00:18,784 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,864 --> 00:00:26,904 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to 4 00:00:26,944 --> 00:00:30,184 Speaker 1: The Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick 5 00:00:30,264 --> 00:00:32,784 Speaker 1: and I'm Killian mccaren. Coming up on the show today, 6 00:00:33,224 --> 00:00:36,344 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian is having one hell of a week, Like 7 00:00:36,384 --> 00:00:38,504 Speaker 1: she's normally a busy lady, but things have gone a 8 00:00:38,504 --> 00:00:40,744 Speaker 1: little bit off the rails. This week, we're going to 9 00:00:40,824 --> 00:00:43,704 Speaker 1: get into a wild book that was written about her 10 00:00:43,744 --> 00:00:46,184 Speaker 1: and how it ties into a court case that's happening now. 11 00:00:46,544 --> 00:00:49,784 Speaker 1: Plus some truly crazy things that Kanye West has said 12 00:00:49,864 --> 00:00:53,464 Speaker 1: involving Paris Hilton. I know, shocking, shocking, That's the first 13 00:00:53,504 --> 00:00:55,064 Speaker 1: thing he said to me on our call this morning. 14 00:00:55,104 --> 00:00:58,304 Speaker 1: So no, but I'm saying like shocking is in like 15 00:00:58,384 --> 00:01:01,144 Speaker 1: a sarcastic way whole I can't believe he's been saying 16 00:01:01,144 --> 00:01:03,664 Speaker 1: wild things. Oh, I'm just weirdly still shocked by can 17 00:01:03,704 --> 00:01:04,104 Speaker 1: I don't. 18 00:01:03,944 --> 00:01:05,744 Speaker 2: Know, so I feel like he could not shock me 19 00:01:05,784 --> 00:01:06,304 Speaker 2: at this point. 20 00:01:06,344 --> 00:01:07,304 Speaker 1: So we're going to get into that. 21 00:01:07,464 --> 00:01:10,624 Speaker 3: But first, in case you missed it, Farmer It's a 22 00:01:10,664 --> 00:01:14,864 Speaker 3: Wife has returned to our screens, and Laura, funnily enough, 23 00:01:14,944 --> 00:01:17,624 Speaker 3: I didn't miss it because my nanny has been watching 24 00:01:17,664 --> 00:01:20,704 Speaker 3: the reruns like during the day, so I've been watching 25 00:01:20,704 --> 00:01:22,104 Speaker 3: it with her at the agecare home. 26 00:01:22,264 --> 00:01:23,384 Speaker 1: Oh that's so sweet. 27 00:01:23,664 --> 00:01:25,024 Speaker 2: It's quite wholesome as well. 28 00:01:25,104 --> 00:01:26,944 Speaker 1: So many people in our audience in particular are so 29 00:01:27,104 --> 00:01:29,024 Speaker 1: invested in Farmer Wants a Wife because I think it's 30 00:01:29,064 --> 00:01:31,824 Speaker 1: the reality show you watch if you want an actual 31 00:01:31,824 --> 00:01:33,944 Speaker 1: little bit of romance and not seeing people kind of 32 00:01:33,944 --> 00:01:35,144 Speaker 1: get ripped apart on screen. 33 00:01:35,304 --> 00:01:37,384 Speaker 3: Well, you were telling me off air as well that 34 00:01:37,464 --> 00:01:39,904 Speaker 3: it's got the highest rate of like marriage and babies. 35 00:01:39,904 --> 00:01:42,664 Speaker 1: It's got the highest rate out of any reality TV series, 36 00:01:42,704 --> 00:01:46,104 Speaker 1: but people actually staying together, getting married and having babies. Like, 37 00:01:46,264 --> 00:01:49,424 Speaker 1: so many babies have come from this reality TV show. 38 00:01:49,464 --> 00:01:51,184 Speaker 1: What a cute little I know. 39 00:01:52,264 --> 00:01:55,864 Speaker 3: Sorry, So it's return to our screens with only four cowboys, 40 00:01:55,944 --> 00:01:58,184 Speaker 3: though this year usually they have eight or more. 41 00:01:58,424 --> 00:02:01,224 Speaker 1: Cowboys. Well I call them cowboys. 42 00:02:02,144 --> 00:02:03,304 Speaker 2: You're like, they're not cowboys. 43 00:02:04,344 --> 00:02:07,704 Speaker 1: They look like cowboys. They look like I mean cowboys, farmers. 44 00:02:07,744 --> 00:02:09,024 Speaker 1: Great cowboy like you. 45 00:02:09,344 --> 00:02:12,304 Speaker 3: Know, for the it is to pick her over And 46 00:02:12,704 --> 00:02:16,944 Speaker 3: this year Laura I've decided that, well, you would be quite. 47 00:02:16,744 --> 00:02:17,464 Speaker 2: Funny on that show. 48 00:02:17,504 --> 00:02:19,024 Speaker 3: Both of us would be, because we would be so 49 00:02:19,384 --> 00:02:22,784 Speaker 3: wildly kicked off within twenty seconds. 50 00:02:23,224 --> 00:02:25,544 Speaker 2: I have picked you a farmer, though, and his name 51 00:02:25,624 --> 00:02:26,144 Speaker 2: is Thomas. 52 00:02:26,424 --> 00:02:26,624 Speaker 4: Oh. 53 00:02:26,904 --> 00:02:28,344 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I had a little look 54 00:02:28,344 --> 00:02:30,384 Speaker 1: at the men involved, but I haven't delved deep. Oh 55 00:02:30,384 --> 00:02:32,264 Speaker 1: she's showing me. She's not showing me at. 56 00:02:32,144 --> 00:02:34,704 Speaker 2: Your husband, a farmer who wants a wife. 57 00:02:34,864 --> 00:02:36,744 Speaker 1: Oh. I mean he's very I do wonder how tall 58 00:02:36,744 --> 00:02:38,104 Speaker 1: he is. That's what I always want. But he's got 59 00:02:38,144 --> 00:02:41,704 Speaker 1: a very nice face. So Laura, well tell me why 60 00:02:41,744 --> 00:02:42,264 Speaker 1: you picked him. 61 00:02:42,264 --> 00:02:44,464 Speaker 3: Because you are my friend, I think of these things. 62 00:02:44,664 --> 00:02:47,224 Speaker 3: He is one hundred and ninety five centimeters tall. Okay, 63 00:02:47,224 --> 00:02:48,264 Speaker 3: did I do research? 64 00:02:48,744 --> 00:02:50,864 Speaker 1: I love that. That's also the first thing that you looked. 65 00:02:51,024 --> 00:02:52,584 Speaker 1: Just for listeners. I know you can't tell them the videos. 66 00:02:52,584 --> 00:02:53,864 Speaker 1: I'm sitting down, I'm really tall. 67 00:02:54,104 --> 00:02:56,344 Speaker 3: I'm tall and she makes me look short. Yeah, she 68 00:02:56,464 --> 00:02:58,224 Speaker 3: is a tall lady. How tall are you? 69 00:02:58,464 --> 00:03:00,704 Speaker 1: Five to eleven? I'm not six foot yet? Yeah, I said, 70 00:03:00,744 --> 00:03:04,464 Speaker 1: I one eighty four eighty five. I feel like I 71 00:03:04,464 --> 00:03:06,944 Speaker 1: lieed my license, but sure, Okay, so you're about ten 72 00:03:06,984 --> 00:03:08,784 Speaker 1: centimeters shorter than him. Fantastic. 73 00:03:08,864 --> 00:03:11,864 Speaker 3: That's he that you were dainty, You're graceful, you're dainty, 74 00:03:12,184 --> 00:03:13,384 Speaker 3: you're a short lady. 75 00:03:13,464 --> 00:03:13,664 Speaker 1: Yeah. 76 00:03:14,544 --> 00:03:18,144 Speaker 3: He's also thirty five important. Yeah, I mean you're not 77 00:03:18,184 --> 00:03:25,184 Speaker 3: a sprinchet. Not that there's anything wrong you'reng with age 78 00:03:25,184 --> 00:03:25,784 Speaker 3: gap related. 79 00:03:25,784 --> 00:03:27,224 Speaker 1: I feel thirty five is good for me. 80 00:03:27,304 --> 00:03:30,064 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think. You just don't strike me. 81 00:03:30,704 --> 00:03:34,104 Speaker 3: You just don't have much tolerance for silliness with people. 82 00:03:34,264 --> 00:03:35,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, and emotional immaturity. 83 00:03:35,864 --> 00:03:38,264 Speaker 3: And I just feel like you, let's cut out the 84 00:03:38,304 --> 00:03:42,704 Speaker 3: potential of silliness. Yeah, and have a slightly older so 85 00:03:42,904 --> 00:03:43,824 Speaker 3: hopefully more. 86 00:03:43,664 --> 00:03:45,504 Speaker 1: Mature, slightly more mature young man. 87 00:03:45,944 --> 00:03:49,464 Speaker 3: Young man. He's strong and silent, which I thought would 88 00:03:49,504 --> 00:03:50,664 Speaker 3: be good because. 89 00:03:50,384 --> 00:03:52,224 Speaker 1: Because I talk enough for two people. Is that what 90 00:03:52,264 --> 00:03:52,704 Speaker 1: you're saying? 91 00:03:52,824 --> 00:03:57,504 Speaker 3: Yes, So we don't want to chatterbox. Otherwise no one 92 00:03:57,504 --> 00:03:59,184 Speaker 3: will ever sleep, nothing will ever get done. 93 00:03:59,264 --> 00:03:59,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. 94 00:04:00,224 --> 00:04:04,064 Speaker 3: And he says, I love living on the farm, freedom, 95 00:04:04,424 --> 00:04:08,544 Speaker 3: open spaces, sunrise, sunsets, but it would be nice to 96 00:04:08,544 --> 00:04:11,304 Speaker 3: share it with someone else. Now, this is where I 97 00:04:11,344 --> 00:04:14,384 Speaker 3: feel like we have an issue because I feel like sunrise, 98 00:04:14,624 --> 00:04:16,624 Speaker 3: I just feel like you wouldn't enjoy most of. 99 00:04:16,584 --> 00:04:19,944 Speaker 1: That I like a sunrise. I've only ever seen one 100 00:04:20,104 --> 00:04:23,744 Speaker 1: pretty much ever. I think coming like home, yeah, no, 101 00:04:23,824 --> 00:04:26,864 Speaker 1: coming home on a Sunday, yeah okay. And I love 102 00:04:26,864 --> 00:04:28,984 Speaker 1: a sunset because I feel like that's when when darkness 103 00:04:28,984 --> 00:04:30,624 Speaker 1: falls and when your life really gets going. 104 00:04:30,904 --> 00:04:34,664 Speaker 3: Telling Cope and the whereas he's probably like, oh, sunset, 105 00:04:35,184 --> 00:04:37,384 Speaker 3: gotta get the cattle to bed. Then I've got to 106 00:04:37,424 --> 00:04:39,664 Speaker 3: rest my head to myself because I got to go 107 00:04:39,704 --> 00:04:41,664 Speaker 3: to get up at the crackerdor to milk the cow. 108 00:04:41,704 --> 00:04:44,064 Speaker 1: Maybe that would work out for us, because I'm assuming 109 00:04:44,104 --> 00:04:46,384 Speaker 1: this man's been living on his farm for thirty five 110 00:04:46,464 --> 00:04:48,624 Speaker 1: years and he's set in his ways, and I'm very 111 00:04:48,664 --> 00:04:50,664 Speaker 1: set in my ways of living alone in my apartment. 112 00:04:50,744 --> 00:04:52,824 Speaker 1: So maybe the fact that we'll only have like a 113 00:04:52,864 --> 00:04:55,824 Speaker 1: good two hour crossover will work well for us. It'll 114 00:04:55,824 --> 00:04:58,424 Speaker 1: be like a long distance relationship, but we'll both be 115 00:04:58,504 --> 00:04:58,784 Speaker 1: on them. 116 00:04:58,864 --> 00:05:02,904 Speaker 3: You would have to live five hundred kilometers inland from Adelaide. 117 00:05:03,024 --> 00:05:07,384 Speaker 3: Of all places, I mean out Australia country. No winery 118 00:05:07,424 --> 00:05:08,904 Speaker 3: in sight. I want to smell it. 119 00:05:08,984 --> 00:05:10,824 Speaker 1: I was gonna say there's not wineries are there? 120 00:05:10,944 --> 00:05:12,224 Speaker 2: They're closer to the coast. 121 00:05:12,584 --> 00:05:15,264 Speaker 1: Oh okay, we are in I could go on a 122 00:05:15,304 --> 00:05:17,864 Speaker 1: farm like maybe I can make it, you know thoms 123 00:05:18,184 --> 00:05:20,424 Speaker 1: where you see like a city lady used to a 124 00:05:20,464 --> 00:05:22,584 Speaker 1: small town and falls and you are not sit a lady. 125 00:05:22,624 --> 00:05:27,784 Speaker 3: You are Russell Quit, you are you are me. They 126 00:05:27,824 --> 00:05:33,304 Speaker 3: could make a comedy reality show about us and literally 127 00:05:33,384 --> 00:05:36,384 Speaker 3: the simple life, except like Pobo version. Yes, either of 128 00:05:36,464 --> 00:05:39,504 Speaker 3: us are rich living in the country. It would there 129 00:05:39,544 --> 00:05:43,144 Speaker 3: would be squealing, they would be mud. You wouldn't farewell 130 00:05:43,184 --> 00:05:45,664 Speaker 3: with the hair situation. I'm sure no hairdressers in the 131 00:05:45,664 --> 00:05:47,024 Speaker 3: town do extensions. 132 00:05:47,264 --> 00:05:49,664 Speaker 1: No, no, well, I mean, look, I have my extensions 133 00:05:49,664 --> 00:05:52,224 Speaker 1: out the moments. I'm on low maintenance scale. I'd be 134 00:05:52,304 --> 00:05:54,624 Speaker 1: okay with the mud. I don't want to do a 135 00:05:54,704 --> 00:05:58,704 Speaker 1: huge amount of physical labor, and I feel like the situation, well, 136 00:05:58,744 --> 00:06:01,104 Speaker 1: that's true. I'm a good cook. I can't bake. I 137 00:06:01,104 --> 00:06:02,584 Speaker 1: feel like a farmer's wife should be able to bake. 138 00:06:02,784 --> 00:06:05,704 Speaker 2: That's very trad I'm really sure that they're more progressive these. 139 00:06:05,664 --> 00:06:07,504 Speaker 1: I mean, I could do it aesthetically like Narro Smith, 140 00:06:07,544 --> 00:06:08,864 Speaker 1: And to be honest, I don't think she really knows 141 00:06:08,904 --> 00:06:10,944 Speaker 1: how to cook either, so we maybe be on. I 142 00:06:10,944 --> 00:06:13,544 Speaker 1: don't want to have a real rodent phobia. I can't 143 00:06:14,024 --> 00:06:16,584 Speaker 1: see a mouse or a rat. Like there's whole areas 144 00:06:16,584 --> 00:06:18,264 Speaker 1: of Sydney I don't walk through because I know where 145 00:06:18,264 --> 00:06:19,904 Speaker 1: the rats are in Sydney and I can't make eye 146 00:06:19,904 --> 00:06:20,704 Speaker 1: contact with one. 147 00:06:20,824 --> 00:06:22,424 Speaker 3: I feel like you're probably more likely to see a 148 00:06:22,504 --> 00:06:23,904 Speaker 3: rat in Sydney if I'm honest. 149 00:06:24,024 --> 00:06:26,184 Speaker 1: Oh no, But don't they live in like barns and stuff? 150 00:06:26,544 --> 00:06:27,664 Speaker 2: Why are you going into the barn? 151 00:06:27,744 --> 00:06:29,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, I would not you live. 152 00:06:30,704 --> 00:06:34,304 Speaker 3: Thomas is out milking the cows, so you can have 153 00:06:34,384 --> 00:06:37,824 Speaker 3: a nice Bailey's tipple with your fresh milk at the 154 00:06:37,864 --> 00:06:39,824 Speaker 3: end of the day, churn you some buttered to put 155 00:06:39,904 --> 00:06:43,464 Speaker 3: on the bread, and you will be in silence because 156 00:06:43,464 --> 00:06:45,584 Speaker 3: you're in the middle of nowhere, so your podcast studio 157 00:06:45,584 --> 00:06:46,384 Speaker 3: will be all set up. 158 00:06:46,464 --> 00:06:48,584 Speaker 1: You're good to go. All right, well, Paul Thomas, and 159 00:06:48,624 --> 00:06:51,784 Speaker 1: will tell me if you're you're actually watching like you've 160 00:06:51,904 --> 00:06:54,784 Speaker 1: seen a lot of the show, like any viewers who haven't. 161 00:06:54,824 --> 00:06:56,744 Speaker 1: Are you? Have you seen anything from Thomas that meet? 162 00:06:56,824 --> 00:06:58,984 Speaker 1: Is he your fave or do you have an but 163 00:06:58,984 --> 00:07:00,904 Speaker 1: the other one is not my fave? But he's good 164 00:07:00,904 --> 00:07:02,064 Speaker 1: for you? No, but none of. 165 00:07:02,024 --> 00:07:03,064 Speaker 2: Them are good for me? 166 00:07:03,264 --> 00:07:04,904 Speaker 1: Or you really well, the other. 167 00:07:04,744 --> 00:07:07,904 Speaker 3: Options are Farmer Jared, who's twenty one. Absolutely not and sorry, 168 00:07:07,984 --> 00:07:09,864 Speaker 3: don't know why is farmer Jared wanting a wife? 169 00:07:09,904 --> 00:07:12,184 Speaker 2: You're twenty one years old, you've just finished skill. 170 00:07:12,224 --> 00:07:14,184 Speaker 1: Well well I know, but it's like when some people 171 00:07:14,224 --> 00:07:16,104 Speaker 1: on the Bachelor and they're just like twenty three and 172 00:07:16,104 --> 00:07:19,264 Speaker 1: I have yet to find love. I'm scared I'm never 173 00:07:19,304 --> 00:07:20,024 Speaker 1: going to find someone. 174 00:07:20,544 --> 00:07:22,024 Speaker 2: Just tutronizing old bitches. 175 00:07:22,064 --> 00:07:24,704 Speaker 3: It's just like, oh, yeah, darling, come spake to me 176 00:07:24,784 --> 00:07:26,504 Speaker 3: when you're in your thirties or forty. 177 00:07:26,784 --> 00:07:28,584 Speaker 1: Well exactly. Well, they probably just know that this is 178 00:07:28,624 --> 00:07:30,744 Speaker 1: the show where people actually do find a wife. That's 179 00:07:30,744 --> 00:07:33,104 Speaker 1: why they're signing up early to kill the ground floor. 180 00:07:33,424 --> 00:07:36,464 Speaker 3: Farmer Tom is thirty one. I just still feel like 181 00:07:36,584 --> 00:07:39,224 Speaker 3: for you, thirty one's a little bit like he's only 182 00:07:39,504 --> 00:07:41,024 Speaker 3: just entered his thirty thirties. 183 00:07:41,384 --> 00:07:43,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also I think it's more personality based, Like 184 00:07:43,744 --> 00:07:46,624 Speaker 1: if guy's got a bad personality at thirty six, it's 185 00:07:46,664 --> 00:07:48,144 Speaker 1: not all like thirty five, it's not going to make 186 00:07:48,144 --> 00:07:48,304 Speaker 1: it that. 187 00:07:48,504 --> 00:07:51,664 Speaker 3: To be fair, Farmer Tom would be my second runner up. 188 00:07:51,704 --> 00:07:53,144 Speaker 3: Oh he does have a nice one. Looks like a 189 00:07:53,144 --> 00:07:55,104 Speaker 3: good time. Farmer Cory twenty four. 190 00:07:55,464 --> 00:07:59,064 Speaker 1: No, I would feel a little bit intense about that. 191 00:07:59,104 --> 00:08:00,504 Speaker 1: I feel like I was in like an Aicul Kimmen 192 00:08:00,544 --> 00:08:04,304 Speaker 1: and Hathaway movie and not which hot Actually, I don't 193 00:08:04,304 --> 00:08:08,464 Speaker 1: know the big pop culture turned at the moment. So 194 00:08:08,544 --> 00:08:09,544 Speaker 1: maybe we can make that work. 195 00:08:09,624 --> 00:08:11,824 Speaker 2: Do you know what I reckon that you and Jared 196 00:08:11,904 --> 00:08:15,024 Speaker 2: I'm changing. You're changing your mind changing because farmer Jared 197 00:08:15,064 --> 00:08:16,704 Speaker 2: actually kind of looks like Thomas's twin. 198 00:08:16,944 --> 00:08:19,944 Speaker 3: Oh it's not the same man, Yeah, exactly, they look 199 00:08:19,984 --> 00:08:22,144 Speaker 3: exactly the same man. That is a different man. Oh, 200 00:08:22,664 --> 00:08:25,864 Speaker 3: so maybe let's switch to farmer Jared. 201 00:08:25,784 --> 00:08:28,624 Speaker 1: Twenty one and oh my god, we've a few minutes 202 00:08:28,624 --> 00:08:30,544 Speaker 1: and I've already backflipped on which farmer. I'm like the 203 00:08:30,584 --> 00:08:33,784 Speaker 1: scarlet lady of the Australian farmer's community of jumping from 204 00:08:33,784 --> 00:08:34,984 Speaker 1: man to man. Do you know what? 205 00:08:35,104 --> 00:08:38,424 Speaker 3: Young men are very progressive these days? Yeah, See, farmer 206 00:08:38,464 --> 00:08:43,584 Speaker 3: Thomas Old probably wants a wife at home. Farmer Jared, 207 00:08:43,624 --> 00:08:46,584 Speaker 3: I reckon more progressive with him. He would be fine 208 00:08:46,584 --> 00:08:48,784 Speaker 3: with you living in the city long distancing it. 209 00:08:48,864 --> 00:08:48,984 Speaker 4: Well. 210 00:08:49,024 --> 00:08:52,464 Speaker 1: Look hopefully it's on Channel seven if you watch. I 211 00:08:52,504 --> 00:08:54,184 Speaker 1: was gonna say, we I don't let this put you 212 00:08:54,264 --> 00:08:56,424 Speaker 1: off guys. The ladies I actually have on the show 213 00:08:56,464 --> 00:08:59,144 Speaker 1: seemed very in love with these farmers. It's all very 214 00:08:59,224 --> 00:09:01,184 Speaker 1: you know, lovey dovey intents. Has been like a few 215 00:09:01,184 --> 00:09:03,704 Speaker 1: little light scandals of people leaving the show, which is. 216 00:09:03,864 --> 00:09:05,464 Speaker 3: Because it's a light scandle I think that's a bigger 217 00:09:05,504 --> 00:09:07,064 Speaker 3: scandal the show's they ever had well. 218 00:09:07,024 --> 00:09:08,624 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I know they've had a few, and they've 219 00:09:08,624 --> 00:09:09,544 Speaker 1: had a few, becau at the end of the day, 220 00:09:09,544 --> 00:09:12,304 Speaker 1: it's sill reality. It's still there to be like super entertaining. 221 00:09:12,424 --> 00:09:14,304 Speaker 1: But yes, Farmer Wants a Wife is on Monday and 222 00:09:14,344 --> 00:09:16,824 Speaker 1: Tuesday nights on Channel seven. And you've been watching it 223 00:09:16,864 --> 00:09:17,224 Speaker 1: on on. 224 00:09:17,184 --> 00:09:18,664 Speaker 2: The reruns, Yes, on the catch up. 225 00:09:18,704 --> 00:09:20,624 Speaker 3: I don't even know how it works, but they rerun 226 00:09:20,664 --> 00:09:22,464 Speaker 3: things through the day on the television. 227 00:09:22,624 --> 00:09:26,184 Speaker 2: So it's on seven plus as well. 228 00:09:26,304 --> 00:09:29,304 Speaker 1: So it's been nearly a decade since Kim Kardashian was 229 00:09:29,344 --> 00:09:32,064 Speaker 1: held at gunpoint in Paris. It's so weird to say 230 00:09:32,064 --> 00:09:35,304 Speaker 1: it's ten years because I weirdly remember that so clearly. 231 00:09:35,584 --> 00:09:38,504 Speaker 3: I remember thinking it was a hoax or like part 232 00:09:38,544 --> 00:09:41,384 Speaker 3: of the show Christian or had said it up really yeah, 233 00:09:41,384 --> 00:09:43,104 Speaker 3: but then I saw her talking about it, and I 234 00:09:43,144 --> 00:09:44,424 Speaker 3: was like, oh, no, that poor girl. 235 00:09:44,464 --> 00:09:46,184 Speaker 2: That's actually really traumatic. 236 00:09:46,424 --> 00:09:49,064 Speaker 1: It's so interesting because I didn't like an entertainment journalism 237 00:09:49,064 --> 00:09:51,104 Speaker 1: at the time, so I wasn't like looking at this 238 00:09:51,224 --> 00:09:52,824 Speaker 1: for it and I didn't really know that much about 239 00:09:52,824 --> 00:09:54,944 Speaker 1: the Kardashians at the time, Like I hadn't watched the show. 240 00:09:54,984 --> 00:09:57,464 Speaker 1: I didn't really know I lived in a Kardashian free world. 241 00:09:57,504 --> 00:10:00,504 Speaker 1: Can you imagine, because now I can't imagine, But I 242 00:10:00,504 --> 00:10:02,704 Speaker 1: do remember like thinking it was a big story, which 243 00:10:02,704 --> 00:10:04,144 Speaker 1: it was, just because like you know, she's one of 244 00:10:04,144 --> 00:10:05,784 Speaker 1: the most famous women in the world. She was held 245 00:10:05,784 --> 00:10:08,144 Speaker 1: at gunpoint, all the police reports. 246 00:10:07,824 --> 00:10:08,984 Speaker 2: That she was in a bathtub. 247 00:10:09,264 --> 00:10:10,544 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a whole situation. 248 00:10:10,664 --> 00:10:13,264 Speaker 2: And I still don't know how they got in Like, oh, well. 249 00:10:13,064 --> 00:10:17,024 Speaker 1: We now know because it's actually going to trial this week. 250 00:10:17,184 --> 00:10:19,784 Speaker 1: So there are twelve men who were originally charged in 251 00:10:19,824 --> 00:10:21,784 Speaker 1: the case, and this week ten of them are going 252 00:10:21,824 --> 00:10:25,104 Speaker 1: to trial, and Kim Kardashian is going to Paris to testify. 253 00:10:25,264 --> 00:10:26,224 Speaker 2: Oh the poor thing. 254 00:10:26,584 --> 00:10:28,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the thing too. It Like I 255 00:10:28,064 --> 00:10:29,984 Speaker 1: think that's why it really resonated with me at the time, 256 00:10:30,024 --> 00:10:32,704 Speaker 1: because I remember hearing some of the calls and seeing 257 00:10:32,704 --> 00:10:34,504 Speaker 1: some of the footage around the police calls at the time, 258 00:10:34,544 --> 00:10:37,104 Speaker 1: and it's like quite horrific. And there's that video because 259 00:10:37,104 --> 00:10:38,984 Speaker 1: she was married to Kanye West at the time and 260 00:10:39,024 --> 00:10:41,144 Speaker 1: they had I think the two oldest kids at the time, 261 00:10:41,464 --> 00:10:44,304 Speaker 1: and there's footage of Kanye on stage and someone walks 262 00:10:44,344 --> 00:10:45,664 Speaker 1: out to him and he's like, I've got to go 263 00:10:45,744 --> 00:10:47,584 Speaker 1: and just runs off stage. Everyone was so angry, but 264 00:10:47,624 --> 00:10:49,784 Speaker 1: he'd just been told that Kim had been held at gunpoint. 265 00:10:49,784 --> 00:10:52,384 Speaker 1: He didn't know what happened. So what happened is that 266 00:10:52,504 --> 00:10:56,424 Speaker 1: it was in twenty sixteen, Kim and Courtney and Kendall 267 00:10:56,704 --> 00:10:59,504 Speaker 1: were all in Paris for fashion Week. They'd been to 268 00:10:59,544 --> 00:11:02,264 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of fashion shows. They were out partying 269 00:11:02,264 --> 00:11:05,304 Speaker 1: together and Kim went back to her hotel room alone 270 00:11:05,624 --> 00:11:07,784 Speaker 1: and what she says now, which is quite chilling, is 271 00:11:07,784 --> 00:11:10,024 Speaker 1: that well, this had been in the works for years. 272 00:11:10,064 --> 00:11:13,304 Speaker 1: Is particular group of robbers had been monitoring all the 273 00:11:13,384 --> 00:11:15,344 Speaker 1: jewelry that she showed on social media. 274 00:11:15,464 --> 00:11:18,224 Speaker 3: Because the thing is as well about, like more so 275 00:11:18,304 --> 00:11:21,304 Speaker 3: than other celebrities. Even a Kardashian would be so hard 276 00:11:21,344 --> 00:11:24,304 Speaker 3: to rob because of the amount of security and also 277 00:11:24,464 --> 00:11:25,824 Speaker 3: just attention that they get constant. 278 00:11:25,904 --> 00:11:28,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So they're usually in like their gated community 279 00:11:28,344 --> 00:11:30,104 Speaker 1: in Calabasas, so you have to get through the gates. 280 00:11:30,104 --> 00:11:33,384 Speaker 1: So it definitely was like, oh, I like her necklace. Yeah, 281 00:11:33,424 --> 00:11:35,184 Speaker 1: they had been following for a long time. And then 282 00:11:35,264 --> 00:11:37,264 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian talks about the fact, and you can see 283 00:11:37,264 --> 00:11:39,704 Speaker 1: that she's really like obviously self blaming and really like 284 00:11:39,744 --> 00:11:42,864 Speaker 1: harden herself over what happened, which is ridiculous cause yeah, exactly. 285 00:11:42,904 --> 00:11:44,704 Speaker 1: So she went back to hotel which was like more 286 00:11:44,704 --> 00:11:47,944 Speaker 1: like a tiny little boutique hotel, not like one of 287 00:11:47,944 --> 00:11:49,824 Speaker 1: the big security ones that you can go to where 288 00:11:49,824 --> 00:11:51,984 Speaker 1: we've got to like go through like different security levels 289 00:11:52,024 --> 00:11:53,144 Speaker 1: to get to the room. It was one of those 290 00:11:53,144 --> 00:11:56,584 Speaker 1: little kind of like stone hotel rooms, like old school locks, 291 00:11:57,024 --> 00:11:59,584 Speaker 1: one concierge like at the front counter kind of thing. 292 00:11:59,824 --> 00:12:02,144 Speaker 1: And she was snapchatting that she was home alone in 293 00:12:02,184 --> 00:12:04,424 Speaker 1: the hotel room to the followers and being like, my 294 00:12:04,504 --> 00:12:06,744 Speaker 1: sisters are out partying, but I've come back. I'm going 295 00:12:06,824 --> 00:12:08,344 Speaker 1: to chill, I'm gonna go to bed. We had such 296 00:12:08,344 --> 00:12:11,144 Speaker 1: a beautiful day in Paris, and so the robbers saw 297 00:12:11,184 --> 00:12:13,864 Speaker 1: that and they broke in the hotel. They held the 298 00:12:13,904 --> 00:12:17,504 Speaker 1: concierge downstairs, like held him hostage. Went up to the room, 299 00:12:17,864 --> 00:12:19,744 Speaker 1: and the concierge said that all of a sudden, all 300 00:12:19,784 --> 00:12:21,824 Speaker 1: these masks men just burst into the room. They like, 301 00:12:21,864 --> 00:12:23,984 Speaker 1: tell us where the rapper's wife is, because that's what 302 00:12:23,984 --> 00:12:27,304 Speaker 1: they were calling Kim Kardashian. And what happened in the 303 00:12:27,384 --> 00:12:29,864 Speaker 1: room is you hear Kim Kardashian give interviews about it, 304 00:12:29,904 --> 00:12:31,384 Speaker 1: like she was on a talk show with David let 305 00:12:31,424 --> 00:12:34,304 Speaker 1: Himan a few years ago, and hearing her account of 306 00:12:34,344 --> 00:12:35,304 Speaker 1: it is quite intense. 307 00:12:35,384 --> 00:12:37,904 Speaker 4: They kept on saying the ring, the ring, and I 308 00:12:37,984 --> 00:12:40,224 Speaker 4: was just so startled. I was like, you know what, 309 00:12:40,384 --> 00:12:42,504 Speaker 4: like it didn't compute to me for a minute. And 310 00:12:42,544 --> 00:12:45,144 Speaker 4: then the guy goes the ring and I had put 311 00:12:45,184 --> 00:12:46,704 Speaker 4: it up by the side of my bed, so I 312 00:12:46,824 --> 00:12:50,344 Speaker 4: handed him my ring and then he grabbed me. And 313 00:12:50,384 --> 00:12:53,104 Speaker 4: I was wearing a robe and I wasn't wearing anything 314 00:12:53,184 --> 00:12:53,664 Speaker 4: under it. 315 00:12:55,744 --> 00:13:01,744 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, no, all right, who 316 00:13:01,784 --> 00:13:07,544 Speaker 1: want to ruin my makeup? It's fine, The makeup is fine, okay. 317 00:13:08,864 --> 00:13:12,824 Speaker 4: And he grabbed me and pulled me towards him. But 318 00:13:12,904 --> 00:13:14,944 Speaker 4: I wasn't wearing anything underneath, so I was like Okay, 319 00:13:15,024 --> 00:13:16,944 Speaker 4: this is like the time I'm going to get raped, 320 00:13:17,024 --> 00:13:20,224 Speaker 4: Like just deal, like this is it's going to happen, 321 00:13:20,584 --> 00:13:21,144 Speaker 4: you know, like. 322 00:13:23,584 --> 00:13:27,664 Speaker 1: Just prepare yourself. That is just so awful. 323 00:13:27,944 --> 00:13:31,224 Speaker 3: Yeah, and for people to know as well, and for 324 00:13:31,264 --> 00:13:33,504 Speaker 3: it to be so public that you have to live 325 00:13:33,584 --> 00:13:36,464 Speaker 3: through it constantly again and again when people are bringing 326 00:13:36,504 --> 00:13:38,584 Speaker 3: it up and everyone remembers like it, there's just so 327 00:13:38,624 --> 00:13:40,584 Speaker 3: many layers of how awful that is. 328 00:13:40,704 --> 00:13:43,424 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And also people have been trying to get 329 00:13:43,424 --> 00:13:45,944 Speaker 1: interviews from her this week just because it is finally 330 00:13:45,984 --> 00:13:48,344 Speaker 1: going to this huge trial and it's. 331 00:13:48,144 --> 00:13:51,024 Speaker 2: Like this is just ongoing. It's a decade later, Like. 332 00:13:51,104 --> 00:13:52,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess it took that long to find 333 00:13:52,944 --> 00:13:54,944 Speaker 1: the amount of people because they arrested people on the 334 00:13:55,024 --> 00:13:56,784 Speaker 1: day in the day after, but there was a lot 335 00:13:56,824 --> 00:13:58,584 Speaker 1: of people who had given intel, people who had set 336 00:13:58,664 --> 00:14:00,224 Speaker 1: up behind the scenes. It's like there's pretty much a 337 00:14:00,224 --> 00:14:02,744 Speaker 1: whole ring of people that are all going to trial 338 00:14:02,824 --> 00:14:05,344 Speaker 1: this week. And Kim Kardashian has said for her lawyer 339 00:14:05,384 --> 00:14:07,504 Speaker 1: that she's saving all of her comments at the moment 340 00:14:07,984 --> 00:14:10,184 Speaker 1: for like the court case and for her testimony, so 341 00:14:10,464 --> 00:14:12,024 Speaker 1: not going to say anything leading up to it, which 342 00:14:12,064 --> 00:14:13,464 Speaker 1: I totally understand. 343 00:14:13,024 --> 00:14:16,264 Speaker 3: Because it's in Paris not the US. It won't be 344 00:14:16,304 --> 00:14:18,224 Speaker 3: public the way that they record. 345 00:14:18,384 --> 00:14:20,104 Speaker 1: Yeah, it won't be like live stream like some of 346 00:14:20,144 --> 00:14:22,104 Speaker 1: the other cases in LA and stuff. But I'm sure 347 00:14:22,104 --> 00:14:24,824 Speaker 1: we'll kind of get that, yeah, yeah, exactly after like 348 00:14:25,024 --> 00:14:27,064 Speaker 1: going through something like that. So it was the biggest 349 00:14:27,144 --> 00:14:29,464 Speaker 1: robbery of an individual in France for more than twenty 350 00:14:29,544 --> 00:14:31,984 Speaker 1: years before it had happened. The men who did it 351 00:14:32,024 --> 00:14:35,344 Speaker 1: have been nicknamed the Grandpa Robbers because they're all born 352 00:14:35,344 --> 00:14:37,584 Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties, so they like meant to be 353 00:14:37,624 --> 00:14:40,304 Speaker 1: like older men, which has kind of become like their 354 00:14:40,344 --> 00:14:40,864 Speaker 1: street name. 355 00:14:41,064 --> 00:14:42,224 Speaker 2: So how long did it go for? 356 00:14:42,544 --> 00:14:43,984 Speaker 1: So it is that two years build up. Then the 357 00:14:44,024 --> 00:14:46,744 Speaker 1: whole thing only lasted for about ten minutes, which again 358 00:14:46,864 --> 00:14:49,384 Speaker 1: is another criticism. I've heard people like, oh, she's going 359 00:14:49,384 --> 00:14:50,984 Speaker 1: on and on, it was only ten minutes. Ten minutes 360 00:14:51,024 --> 00:14:53,024 Speaker 1: is a long time. I feel like someone coming into 361 00:14:53,064 --> 00:14:56,144 Speaker 1: your hotel room with guns, tying you up, saying they 362 00:14:56,144 --> 00:14:57,664 Speaker 1: were going to kill you. It doesn't matter if it's 363 00:14:57,664 --> 00:15:00,904 Speaker 1: ten minutes or ten hours, like pretty that is horrid. 364 00:15:00,944 --> 00:15:02,624 Speaker 3: About how long that would be in a movie. If 365 00:15:02,624 --> 00:15:04,744 Speaker 3: you're watching a tent scene in a movie. Ten minutes 366 00:15:04,824 --> 00:15:07,664 Speaker 3: is a bloody long time, let alone to live through it, exactly. 367 00:15:07,704 --> 00:15:08,904 Speaker 1: And there was no one else in the room with her, 368 00:15:08,944 --> 00:15:10,744 Speaker 1: so normally she'd have her bodyguard, but because she was 369 00:15:10,744 --> 00:15:12,384 Speaker 1: back at the hotel, she told the bodyguard it was 370 00:15:12,424 --> 00:15:14,624 Speaker 1: okay to go out, so the morning guard had gone 371 00:15:14,664 --> 00:15:18,224 Speaker 1: back to join Courtney at the club. And when you 372 00:15:18,304 --> 00:15:20,584 Speaker 1: hear Kim's account of this, she kept saying, like over 373 00:15:20,584 --> 00:15:22,464 Speaker 1: and over again, because she was sharing a room with Courtney, 374 00:15:22,624 --> 00:15:24,384 Speaker 1: She's like, they're going to kill me, and they're going 375 00:15:24,424 --> 00:15:25,984 Speaker 1: to shoot me, and my dead body's going to be 376 00:15:26,024 --> 00:15:27,944 Speaker 1: left here and Courtney's going to come back and find it. 377 00:15:27,984 --> 00:15:30,784 Speaker 1: So she has had that stress of, like Courtney, living 378 00:15:30,824 --> 00:15:33,224 Speaker 1: through that kind of trauma. So it's all pretty terrible. 379 00:15:33,704 --> 00:15:36,344 Speaker 1: One interesting thing that's happening in the trial that's happening 380 00:15:36,344 --> 00:15:38,224 Speaker 1: this week is that one of the men who was involved, 381 00:15:38,264 --> 00:15:41,624 Speaker 1: Eunice Abbess, who's a Frenchman, is one of the only 382 00:15:41,704 --> 00:15:44,824 Speaker 1: suspects who has admitted like full guilt to the situation. 383 00:15:45,304 --> 00:15:47,224 Speaker 1: And he is the only one who is going to 384 00:15:47,464 --> 00:15:50,864 Speaker 1: take the stand and actually say yes, I was involved 385 00:15:50,864 --> 00:15:53,664 Speaker 1: in this, I take full responsibility and I'll apologize and 386 00:15:53,704 --> 00:15:55,944 Speaker 1: I'm going to be really mean my apology. 387 00:15:56,104 --> 00:15:57,104 Speaker 2: Oh you're not though, are you. 388 00:15:57,264 --> 00:15:57,464 Speaker 3: Well. 389 00:15:57,464 --> 00:15:59,184 Speaker 1: The reason he has to say that is that this 390 00:15:59,224 --> 00:16:00,784 Speaker 1: is one of the men who can't be like, no, no, no, 391 00:16:00,824 --> 00:16:02,704 Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with this, because this man 392 00:16:03,024 --> 00:16:06,424 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, released a book called I Kidnapped 393 00:16:06,544 --> 00:16:08,984 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian. It's really hard to get around it once 394 00:16:09,024 --> 00:16:12,224 Speaker 1: you've done that. Who on Earth published that book? A 395 00:16:12,264 --> 00:16:15,144 Speaker 1: French company published it, so he like co authored. Nice, 396 00:16:15,304 --> 00:16:17,264 Speaker 1: it's a full We touched on it when it came 397 00:16:17,264 --> 00:16:18,824 Speaker 1: out on the spill, but like the fact that that 398 00:16:18,824 --> 00:16:21,464 Speaker 1: book exists is like still one of the craziest things 399 00:16:21,464 --> 00:16:23,544 Speaker 1: that's ever happened. He did a full press tour. He 400 00:16:23,584 --> 00:16:26,504 Speaker 1: wrote a book about kidnapping Kim Kardashian. He wrote a 401 00:16:26,504 --> 00:16:28,384 Speaker 1: book about what happened then either the robbery, and then 402 00:16:28,424 --> 00:16:30,384 Speaker 1: he did a full press tour. And you can still 403 00:16:30,424 --> 00:16:32,704 Speaker 1: buy the book I Kidnapped Kim Kardashian. It's out there 404 00:16:32,704 --> 00:16:35,624 Speaker 1: in the world. That's awful. Yeah, it's pretty bad. But 405 00:16:35,664 --> 00:16:37,624 Speaker 1: also this man, I mean, I feel one of the 406 00:16:37,624 --> 00:16:39,784 Speaker 1: reasons he kind of feels okay talking about it is 407 00:16:39,784 --> 00:16:42,664 Speaker 1: that he just wasn't the mastermind. He sounds like the 408 00:16:42,744 --> 00:16:43,744 Speaker 1: dumbest criminal ever. 409 00:16:43,984 --> 00:16:46,024 Speaker 2: Hopefully he can't profit off that though. 410 00:16:45,984 --> 00:16:47,744 Speaker 1: Well, I think there are some sort of laws around 411 00:16:47,784 --> 00:16:49,384 Speaker 1: what you can and cannot profit of. But I feel 412 00:16:49,384 --> 00:16:52,064 Speaker 1: like indirectly he must have had some must you know. 413 00:16:52,144 --> 00:16:53,904 Speaker 1: And he also want on a whole press tour for it, 414 00:16:53,944 --> 00:16:55,144 Speaker 1: and there was a whole thing, so I feel like 415 00:16:55,144 --> 00:16:57,904 Speaker 1: there must be something so in the book, which I 416 00:16:57,944 --> 00:16:59,344 Speaker 1: haven't read the full thing, but I have read a 417 00:16:59,384 --> 00:17:01,824 Speaker 1: lot of it, like on an online copy, just because 418 00:17:01,864 --> 00:17:04,824 Speaker 1: it is wild. He said that they had like someone 419 00:17:04,904 --> 00:17:07,944 Speaker 1: from Kim Kardashian's team was like leaking information to them 420 00:17:07,984 --> 00:17:10,864 Speaker 1: several weeks before they arrived in Paris, and they found 421 00:17:10,864 --> 00:17:13,704 Speaker 1: out where they were staying, and they all went there 422 00:17:13,704 --> 00:17:16,144 Speaker 1: on bikes because he's like, there's no parking, And I 423 00:17:16,184 --> 00:17:17,664 Speaker 1: was like, I love how like Paris is like so 424 00:17:17,824 --> 00:17:19,424 Speaker 1: intense and even when you're conducting. 425 00:17:19,104 --> 00:17:21,264 Speaker 2: A crime, there is like you have to pedal. 426 00:17:21,784 --> 00:17:24,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, like the biggest problem is no parking. So they 427 00:17:24,744 --> 00:17:27,224 Speaker 1: all biked there, and they also thought the bikes would 428 00:17:27,224 --> 00:17:29,704 Speaker 1: be very kind of quick and discreet. So he said 429 00:17:29,744 --> 00:17:33,264 Speaker 1: he actually stayed downstairs and he was laughing when he 430 00:17:33,304 --> 00:17:36,344 Speaker 1: was there because he had heard the Kardashians talking like 431 00:17:36,384 --> 00:17:38,624 Speaker 1: through the Great Mine about how private and secret the 432 00:17:38,664 --> 00:17:40,704 Speaker 1: hotel was, and he's like, when I got there, I 433 00:17:40,784 --> 00:17:44,184 Speaker 1: was laughing because everyone I know in Paris delivers drugs 434 00:17:44,224 --> 00:17:47,424 Speaker 1: to this hotel. It's regularly raided by police, and a 435 00:17:47,464 --> 00:17:49,584 Speaker 1: lot of the robbers in his party actually were dressed 436 00:17:49,624 --> 00:17:51,464 Speaker 1: like police when they first walked in. That's why the 437 00:17:51,504 --> 00:17:53,984 Speaker 1: concierge didn't stop them. And the reason he said they 438 00:17:54,024 --> 00:17:56,104 Speaker 1: were dressed as police is they knew that a lot 439 00:17:56,104 --> 00:17:58,184 Speaker 1: of drug trade happened in the hotel and so it 440 00:17:58,224 --> 00:18:00,864 Speaker 1: got raided very regularly, and so they dressed as police 441 00:18:01,264 --> 00:18:02,704 Speaker 1: they would be able to get in the front door, 442 00:18:02,704 --> 00:18:05,544 Speaker 1: which actually worked. So he didn't actually go into the room, 443 00:18:05,544 --> 00:18:07,144 Speaker 1: which is one of the other reasons that I think 444 00:18:07,184 --> 00:18:09,024 Speaker 1: he's gone on this big press too, because he's like, 445 00:18:09,024 --> 00:18:10,744 Speaker 1: I didn't tie her up. I stay down stairs and 446 00:18:10,784 --> 00:18:13,344 Speaker 1: held the receptionist at gunpoint. I just had a gun 447 00:18:13,384 --> 00:18:15,224 Speaker 1: at the dude's head. I didn't go in. I wasn't 448 00:18:15,264 --> 00:18:18,224 Speaker 1: that involved. Don't put me in jail. Well, here's the thing, 449 00:18:18,264 --> 00:18:20,024 Speaker 1: when everyone was One of the things he writes about 450 00:18:20,024 --> 00:18:21,304 Speaker 1: in the book, and also one of the things that 451 00:18:21,384 --> 00:18:23,304 Speaker 1: he got asked about when he was doing his big 452 00:18:23,344 --> 00:18:26,744 Speaker 1: interview circuit was like, you one of the men who 453 00:18:26,824 --> 00:18:28,904 Speaker 1: was like holding guns at people's heads in the hotel, 454 00:18:28,944 --> 00:18:32,064 Speaker 1: and he is not me. I would never I didn't 455 00:18:32,064 --> 00:18:34,584 Speaker 1: even learn to shoot. I don't like it. He's like, 456 00:18:34,624 --> 00:18:37,264 Speaker 1: apparently our accomplices were armed, but I had no idea 457 00:18:37,264 --> 00:18:39,864 Speaker 1: about that. I didn't find out till later. And then, 458 00:18:40,264 --> 00:18:44,024 Speaker 1: my goodness, so he said, once the robbery had happened 459 00:18:44,064 --> 00:18:45,904 Speaker 1: and they came back downstairs, and they said that Kim 460 00:18:45,944 --> 00:18:48,544 Speaker 1: Kardashian was still up in the hotel room and was 461 00:18:48,624 --> 00:18:51,104 Speaker 1: tied up. Some of them set up on foot, but 462 00:18:51,184 --> 00:18:53,144 Speaker 1: he jumped back on a bike, and he said he 463 00:18:53,184 --> 00:18:55,704 Speaker 1: had a really guilty conscience at the time, and he 464 00:18:55,784 --> 00:18:59,024 Speaker 1: was starting to doubt himself. And he had also been 465 00:18:59,104 --> 00:19:01,264 Speaker 1: like past one of the bags that had the jewelry 466 00:19:01,304 --> 00:19:03,664 Speaker 1: in it, and as he rode away from the hotel, 467 00:19:04,064 --> 00:19:06,304 Speaker 1: he started to get like quite upset, and then he 468 00:19:06,384 --> 00:19:09,264 Speaker 1: realized that there was a phone ringing inside the backpack, 469 00:19:09,784 --> 00:19:11,984 Speaker 1: and he pulled out the phone and realized they had 470 00:19:12,064 --> 00:19:16,024 Speaker 1: accidentally taken Kim Kardashian's phone. So he's got Kim Kardashian's 471 00:19:16,064 --> 00:19:19,464 Speaker 1: ringing phone and someone's calling it, and the person calling it, 472 00:19:19,784 --> 00:19:21,744 Speaker 1: I'm not laughing because I just don't think Kim Kardashian's 473 00:19:21,744 --> 00:19:23,704 Speaker 1: been held at gunpoint is funny anyway. But this man 474 00:19:23,744 --> 00:19:26,384 Speaker 1: is just so ridiculous. It was Tracy Chapman, the singer, 475 00:19:26,504 --> 00:19:28,864 Speaker 1: calling to like chat to Kim. So he looked at 476 00:19:28,864 --> 00:19:30,864 Speaker 1: the phone and like threw it into a river, the 477 00:19:30,944 --> 00:19:33,104 Speaker 1: ring phone and all at the same time, threw like 478 00:19:33,144 --> 00:19:36,504 Speaker 1: half her jewelry into the river. And he had gloves on. 479 00:19:36,544 --> 00:19:38,384 Speaker 1: But he said the way they found him was that. 480 00:19:38,624 --> 00:19:41,024 Speaker 1: So he's robbed Kim Kardashian. He's got her phone, Tracy 481 00:19:41,104 --> 00:19:44,544 Speaker 1: Chapman's calling, He's freaking out. He's throwing Kim Kardashian's priceless 482 00:19:44,584 --> 00:19:47,824 Speaker 1: jewels all over Paris. He's biking. He's accidentally left his 483 00:19:47,944 --> 00:19:49,824 Speaker 1: DNA at the scene, which is how they found him. 484 00:19:50,064 --> 00:19:52,264 Speaker 1: He gets home, his wife is like, where were you 485 00:19:52,344 --> 00:19:54,304 Speaker 1: and he's like nowhere. They have a huge fight. They 486 00:19:54,304 --> 00:19:55,264 Speaker 1: go to bed, angry. 487 00:19:55,024 --> 00:19:57,144 Speaker 2: He was with Kim kut it's not funny, but he's like, 488 00:19:57,184 --> 00:20:00,104 Speaker 2: I was with Kim Kardashian. So she's like, you weren't 489 00:20:00,824 --> 00:20:01,944 Speaker 2: I don't believe it. 490 00:20:02,264 --> 00:20:05,064 Speaker 1: No, he didn't tell his wife and they went to 491 00:20:05,144 --> 00:20:07,704 Speaker 1: bed angry, and the next morning, of course, all over 492 00:20:07,744 --> 00:20:10,304 Speaker 1: the news Kim Kardashian's been held at gunpoint and he's 493 00:20:10,344 --> 00:20:12,584 Speaker 1: and his wife was like, was that you? Did you 494 00:20:12,664 --> 00:20:14,624 Speaker 1: do that? So this man's from the pain himself as 495 00:20:14,624 --> 00:20:17,184 Speaker 1: a really like bad now I didn't like, but also 496 00:20:17,224 --> 00:20:17,824 Speaker 1: a badass. 497 00:20:17,984 --> 00:20:20,464 Speaker 3: Yeah, not in a good way, but like a criminal, 498 00:20:20,504 --> 00:20:22,904 Speaker 3: I should say, because like, no, if Luke didn't come 499 00:20:22,944 --> 00:20:24,584 Speaker 3: home one night and then the next day there was 500 00:20:24,624 --> 00:20:26,264 Speaker 3: a big crime, not a chance, but I think that 501 00:20:26,544 --> 00:20:27,624 Speaker 3: guy had done anything. 502 00:20:27,944 --> 00:20:30,384 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Well, also he must have been wrapped up 503 00:20:30,424 --> 00:20:32,744 Speaker 1: in some pretty bad shade up exactly. 504 00:20:32,864 --> 00:20:33,104 Speaker 3: Yeah. 505 00:20:33,144 --> 00:20:35,464 Speaker 1: If your wife turns on the TV in the morning 506 00:20:35,544 --> 00:20:36,984 Speaker 1: see that one of the most famous women in the 507 00:20:37,024 --> 00:20:39,424 Speaker 1: world has been robbed at gunpoint a few streets away 508 00:20:39,424 --> 00:20:41,304 Speaker 1: from you, she turns to her husband and be like, 509 00:20:41,424 --> 00:20:43,464 Speaker 1: I know it was you. I know it was you. 510 00:20:43,584 --> 00:20:45,344 Speaker 1: Smell it and he was like, no, it wasn't me, 511 00:20:45,424 --> 00:20:46,864 Speaker 1: it wasn't me. And then the police knocked the door 512 00:20:46,904 --> 00:20:48,784 Speaker 1: and arrested him, and then he wrote a book about it. 513 00:20:49,024 --> 00:20:50,584 Speaker 1: So yeah, so that book is out in the world. 514 00:20:50,664 --> 00:20:52,344 Speaker 1: So he's the one who's like in the lead up 515 00:20:52,384 --> 00:20:55,344 Speaker 1: to this is like I'm gonna say sorry on the stand, 516 00:20:55,384 --> 00:20:57,344 Speaker 1: and I don't want to put words in Kim Kardashian's mouth, 517 00:20:57,344 --> 00:20:59,304 Speaker 1: but I just don't think that's gonna make her feel 518 00:20:59,344 --> 00:20:59,704 Speaker 1: any better. 519 00:20:59,904 --> 00:21:01,824 Speaker 2: No, I don't think sorry, we'll ever cut it. 520 00:21:02,104 --> 00:21:04,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially after you've done, like you've profited off it, 521 00:21:04,944 --> 00:21:06,144 Speaker 1: you're still giving into. 522 00:21:05,944 --> 00:21:11,184 Speaker 3: Regardless you robbed her, Yeah, you were conspired to hurt 523 00:21:11,224 --> 00:21:12,024 Speaker 3: her like that. 524 00:21:12,664 --> 00:21:15,824 Speaker 1: You can't forgive that, yeah, exactly. So the trial is 525 00:21:15,864 --> 00:21:17,304 Speaker 1: gonna be unfolding me. 526 00:21:17,664 --> 00:21:20,504 Speaker 2: Just like forgiveness is the most important thing. 527 00:21:20,544 --> 00:21:22,464 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't care how long it's been, 528 00:21:22,504 --> 00:21:24,224 Speaker 3: no one's ever getting forgiven for any of them. 529 00:21:24,344 --> 00:21:25,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how you would. I do want to, 530 00:21:26,104 --> 00:21:28,024 Speaker 1: like there's some sort of closure of her, like, and 531 00:21:28,064 --> 00:21:30,104 Speaker 1: I still don't know if she's like physically going or 532 00:21:30,104 --> 00:21:32,504 Speaker 1: if she's gonna like do like a zoozoom or something 533 00:21:32,544 --> 00:21:35,304 Speaker 1: like that. But I think either way, knowing that the 534 00:21:35,344 --> 00:21:37,744 Speaker 1: ten men who were on trial, either the ones that 535 00:21:37,784 --> 00:21:39,464 Speaker 1: came into the room or the ones that orchestrated it, 536 00:21:39,504 --> 00:21:41,744 Speaker 1: like even just being on a like a conference call 537 00:21:41,824 --> 00:21:43,664 Speaker 1: and like giving your side the story would be really 538 00:21:43,664 --> 00:21:46,624 Speaker 1: traumatizing also just to relive it after ten years exactly 539 00:21:46,744 --> 00:21:48,584 Speaker 1: because there are so many scenes in Keeping Up with the 540 00:21:48,624 --> 00:21:52,064 Speaker 1: Kardashians where you see her just breaking down like sobbing 541 00:21:52,104 --> 00:21:54,264 Speaker 1: and shaking, like and she had nightmares for weeks and 542 00:21:54,304 --> 00:21:55,624 Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff, and I'm sure, like we're 543 00:21:55,664 --> 00:21:58,464 Speaker 1: not even seeing the extent of what happened, and even 544 00:21:58,504 --> 00:22:00,344 Speaker 1: the fact that she did wear jewelry for years because 545 00:22:00,384 --> 00:22:03,384 Speaker 1: she felt like she was being punished for being too materialistic, 546 00:22:03,424 --> 00:22:07,224 Speaker 1: which obviously I know, like the Takatashians are materialistic things 547 00:22:07,224 --> 00:22:10,664 Speaker 1: that you deserve to get robbed, absolutely not. So yes, 548 00:22:10,704 --> 00:22:13,144 Speaker 1: that trial is happening this week after ten years, and 549 00:22:13,224 --> 00:22:15,224 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have sort of more information about it, 550 00:22:15,264 --> 00:22:17,544 Speaker 1: but also I just hope it gives Kim some closure. 551 00:22:19,544 --> 00:22:23,864 Speaker 3: And because it already wasn't a tough enough week for Kim. 552 00:22:24,184 --> 00:22:25,824 Speaker 3: Kanye's been on the blower again. 553 00:22:26,064 --> 00:22:28,104 Speaker 1: Well, he keeps getting like goes back on his social 554 00:22:28,144 --> 00:22:30,464 Speaker 1: media platforms and he gets banned, and then Elon Musk 555 00:22:30,504 --> 00:22:32,624 Speaker 1: takes Twitter slash x back and it gets put back on. 556 00:22:32,664 --> 00:22:34,864 Speaker 1: So it's a whole back and forth. But recently he 557 00:22:34,904 --> 00:22:38,024 Speaker 1: was on ad Digital nas live stream where he was 558 00:22:38,184 --> 00:22:40,744 Speaker 1: just pretty much asked to give his opinion on everything 559 00:22:40,824 --> 00:22:42,664 Speaker 1: under the sun. And he is in one of his 560 00:22:42,824 --> 00:22:47,704 Speaker 1: like oversharing moments, so he didn't hold back oversharing slash cooked. 561 00:22:47,984 --> 00:22:50,704 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that oversharing comes across as like, oh, 562 00:22:50,744 --> 00:22:52,664 Speaker 3: they're just like a little bit quirky, they're oversharing a 563 00:22:52,664 --> 00:22:55,424 Speaker 3: little bit. He basically said that he wondered what it 564 00:22:55,424 --> 00:22:57,864 Speaker 3: would have been like to have babies with Paris Hilton 565 00:22:58,064 --> 00:23:01,824 Speaker 3: instead of Kim Karashian, which I'm sure for well, Paris 566 00:23:01,864 --> 00:23:05,504 Speaker 3: Hilton would have been like, oh, Kim Karashian and the 567 00:23:05,624 --> 00:23:07,904 Speaker 3: children that they share. Not a great thing to hear. 568 00:23:08,344 --> 00:23:10,944 Speaker 3: Probably not surprising at this point, but not a great thing. 569 00:23:11,104 --> 00:23:12,824 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he said it's awful to say, but 570 00:23:12,864 --> 00:23:16,544 Speaker 1: he's said a lot worse terrible. But I think why 571 00:23:16,584 --> 00:23:18,664 Speaker 1: this is making so many headlines and it's pushing his 572 00:23:18,864 --> 00:23:20,824 Speaker 1: like all these kind of outburst he's having back into 573 00:23:20,824 --> 00:23:22,864 Speaker 1: the spotlight, is that not only did he say that, 574 00:23:22,904 --> 00:23:24,944 Speaker 1: but he went through this like really in depth plan 575 00:23:25,504 --> 00:23:27,744 Speaker 1: of why he should have had kids with Paris, which 576 00:23:27,824 --> 00:23:30,424 Speaker 1: is weird. Yeah, exactly. So basically he was saying, like 577 00:23:30,544 --> 00:23:32,784 Speaker 1: Kim used to be a Paras Hilton's assistant. He's like 578 00:23:32,984 --> 00:23:35,264 Speaker 1: and basically inferring that you don't go for the assistant 579 00:23:35,544 --> 00:23:37,624 Speaker 1: and that she would still be an assistant if he 580 00:23:37,704 --> 00:23:40,824 Speaker 1: if Kanya hadn't come in and like plucked her from obscurity, 581 00:23:41,184 --> 00:23:43,384 Speaker 1: and also talking about the fact that he really. 582 00:23:43,264 --> 00:23:45,064 Speaker 2: The Kardashi into was already a thing. 583 00:23:45,184 --> 00:23:47,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's full of it. I mean again, he said 584 00:23:48,024 --> 00:23:49,584 Speaker 1: worse things. But this is the whole kind of thing 585 00:23:49,584 --> 00:23:52,544 Speaker 1: where he's going back and like reconstructing this whole big 586 00:23:52,584 --> 00:23:55,704 Speaker 1: story around this, like and he's very topic romance. 587 00:23:55,864 --> 00:23:59,504 Speaker 3: He's just like making up these alternative storylines that absolutely 588 00:23:59,544 --> 00:24:02,104 Speaker 3: never happened and wouldn't have happened exactly. 589 00:24:02,144 --> 00:24:03,504 Speaker 1: And one of the things too, I mean, like I 590 00:24:03,504 --> 00:24:05,344 Speaker 1: honestly feel like Paris Silton would just see this and 591 00:24:05,344 --> 00:24:07,064 Speaker 1: be like, you know whatever, She would see it and 592 00:24:07,144 --> 00:24:11,824 Speaker 1: go ell yeah, as f as f exactly what I 593 00:24:11,824 --> 00:24:14,104 Speaker 1: think would be Like one of the really hurtful things 594 00:24:14,144 --> 00:24:16,584 Speaker 1: for Kim Kardashian while she's already having this terrible week 595 00:24:16,624 --> 00:24:19,224 Speaker 1: having to like relive the robbery after ten years, is 596 00:24:19,224 --> 00:24:22,104 Speaker 1: that Kanye West is saying in this clip that he 597 00:24:22,304 --> 00:24:24,344 Speaker 1: knew after being with her for only two months that 598 00:24:24,424 --> 00:24:26,424 Speaker 1: he never wanted to have children with her, And after 599 00:24:26,424 --> 00:24:28,544 Speaker 1: they had Northwest, he's like pretty much saying that he 600 00:24:28,864 --> 00:24:31,424 Speaker 1: wished they didn't have any more children, which they went 601 00:24:31,464 --> 00:24:34,104 Speaker 1: on to have three more children, so they have North 602 00:24:34,144 --> 00:24:37,184 Speaker 1: and then Saint and then Chicago and then Psalm is 603 00:24:37,184 --> 00:24:37,824 Speaker 1: their youngest. 604 00:24:38,264 --> 00:24:41,864 Speaker 3: I just cannot imagine how hurtful that is. 605 00:24:41,944 --> 00:24:43,464 Speaker 2: Yeah, for the children in particular. 606 00:24:43,584 --> 00:24:45,504 Speaker 3: I think that Kim is probably just so used to 607 00:24:45,624 --> 00:24:48,024 Speaker 3: him at this point, and she probably thinks in her 608 00:24:48,064 --> 00:24:49,904 Speaker 3: head too, or she didn't have kids with you because 609 00:24:49,904 --> 00:24:53,024 Speaker 3: you're a lunatic. But for him to say that, he's 610 00:24:53,024 --> 00:24:56,144 Speaker 3: saying basically that he wishes his children didn't exist. 611 00:24:56,544 --> 00:24:58,504 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird thing because for a really long 612 00:24:58,544 --> 00:25:01,824 Speaker 1: time there, even after like Kim and Kane had their 613 00:25:01,864 --> 00:25:04,104 Speaker 1: whole big breakout. I remember when this first started happening, 614 00:25:04,104 --> 00:25:06,944 Speaker 1: when he first started sort of blowing up on different 615 00:25:06,984 --> 00:25:10,144 Speaker 1: social platforms and was saying a lot of really awful 616 00:25:10,144 --> 00:25:13,744 Speaker 1: things about the Kardashian family, particularly Kim Kardashian, and then 617 00:25:13,744 --> 00:25:15,744 Speaker 1: he went to Wyoming and it was all blowing up, 618 00:25:15,744 --> 00:25:17,984 Speaker 1: and then Kim Kardashian put up a statement and in 619 00:25:17,984 --> 00:25:20,144 Speaker 1: that statement, she said, like, mental health is such a 620 00:25:20,144 --> 00:25:22,464 Speaker 1: real thing, and he has bipolar disorder, and please give 621 00:25:22,544 --> 00:25:25,264 Speaker 1: us some space. And then that all happened. But then 622 00:25:25,864 --> 00:25:27,904 Speaker 1: they sort of came back to this place where they 623 00:25:27,984 --> 00:25:30,584 Speaker 1: appeared at least to be co parenting, like he was 624 00:25:30,584 --> 00:25:33,024 Speaker 1: still on Keeping Up with the Kardashians or the Kardashians 625 00:25:33,304 --> 00:25:35,744 Speaker 1: once it was rebranded, because he was in that episode 626 00:25:35,784 --> 00:25:38,864 Speaker 1: where Kim Kardashian's whole sex tape storyline came up again, 627 00:25:38,904 --> 00:25:42,744 Speaker 1: and there's like footage of Karne like flying to retrieve 628 00:25:42,784 --> 00:25:45,224 Speaker 1: the sex tape and like to stop it being redistributed 629 00:25:45,224 --> 00:25:46,744 Speaker 1: and then flying back to New York and giving it 630 00:25:46,784 --> 00:25:49,304 Speaker 1: to her, So that's all there. There's footage of him 631 00:25:49,344 --> 00:25:50,944 Speaker 1: like coming to the house in a fire truck to 632 00:25:50,944 --> 00:25:52,984 Speaker 1: pick the kids up and go to school, and on 633 00:25:53,024 --> 00:25:54,424 Speaker 1: the show, Kim is like, we're just trying to be 634 00:25:54,464 --> 00:25:57,104 Speaker 1: co parenting and like trying to keep everything, yeah, to 635 00:25:57,144 --> 00:25:59,544 Speaker 1: keep everything. So that kind of happened for a few years, 636 00:25:59,864 --> 00:26:02,464 Speaker 1: and then things started to sort of blow up again 637 00:26:02,584 --> 00:26:04,184 Speaker 1: in a really intense way, and a lot of it 638 00:26:04,184 --> 00:26:07,264 Speaker 1: happened when Kim started dating Pete davids Remember Pete Davidson 639 00:26:07,624 --> 00:26:10,144 Speaker 1: and Kanye West were having a really public back and 640 00:26:10,184 --> 00:26:13,864 Speaker 1: forth yes when Kanye was saying stuff about get away 641 00:26:13,864 --> 00:26:16,864 Speaker 1: from my wife, and Pete was replying to him being like, 642 00:26:16,944 --> 00:26:18,584 Speaker 1: can't talk. I'm in bed with your wife. 643 00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:20,904 Speaker 2: Just like Poke the Bear, but also kind of funny. 644 00:26:21,304 --> 00:26:23,664 Speaker 3: I'm a little bit antagonistic sometimes, so I kind of 645 00:26:23,704 --> 00:26:24,344 Speaker 3: would probably, well. 646 00:26:24,304 --> 00:26:25,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of stuff going on 647 00:26:25,744 --> 00:26:27,784 Speaker 1: behind the scenes that we're only seeing. And then Kanye 648 00:26:27,864 --> 00:26:30,864 Speaker 1: was putting up statements saying they've taken my children away, 649 00:26:30,864 --> 00:26:33,784 Speaker 1: and underneath Kim Kardashians in the comments saying you picked 650 00:26:33,824 --> 00:26:35,744 Speaker 1: the kids up from school this morning, you saw them 651 00:26:35,784 --> 00:26:38,064 Speaker 1: on the weekend. Please stop saying this like it, because it. 652 00:26:38,064 --> 00:26:41,824 Speaker 3: Would also be so scary for her to be reading 653 00:26:41,824 --> 00:26:44,784 Speaker 3: that and thinking, I've been leaving these children alone with 654 00:26:44,824 --> 00:26:47,624 Speaker 3: you and this is your narrative, Well, what's real in 655 00:26:47,664 --> 00:26:48,104 Speaker 3: your head? 656 00:26:48,224 --> 00:26:50,184 Speaker 1: That was a story the other day that came out 657 00:26:50,264 --> 00:26:52,544 Speaker 1: a lot of it's allegations because Kim Kardashian has kept 658 00:26:52,544 --> 00:26:54,304 Speaker 1: saying now that she's just trying not to talk about 659 00:26:54,304 --> 00:26:56,784 Speaker 1: it publicly as much, which it was very yeah, because 660 00:26:56,824 --> 00:26:58,664 Speaker 1: of the kids, but obviously hard to keep it out 661 00:26:58,664 --> 00:27:01,744 Speaker 1: of headlines. When all this stuff is happening. But she 662 00:27:01,984 --> 00:27:04,384 Speaker 1: knew that Northwest was at Kanye's house and she heard 663 00:27:04,384 --> 00:27:06,544 Speaker 1: that's like a lot of really not great men, to 664 00:27:06,584 --> 00:27:08,904 Speaker 1: be honest, where over there hanging out. So then she 665 00:27:08,944 --> 00:27:10,344 Speaker 1: got in the car and joyer over and had to 666 00:27:10,424 --> 00:27:12,264 Speaker 1: like pull north out, and that like pulled this thing. 667 00:27:12,344 --> 00:27:14,904 Speaker 1: So there's such a famous family and so much of 668 00:27:14,904 --> 00:27:19,184 Speaker 1: their livelihood depends on us seeing the ins and outs 669 00:27:19,184 --> 00:27:21,704 Speaker 1: of like this glamorous life and the terrible things that happened. 670 00:27:21,744 --> 00:27:23,824 Speaker 1: But this side of it feels very much like the 671 00:27:23,864 --> 00:27:25,664 Speaker 1: side they desperately want to keep hidden. And I think 672 00:27:25,704 --> 00:27:27,504 Speaker 1: as a viewer, you want it to be hidden because 673 00:27:27,624 --> 00:27:28,584 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to know that. 674 00:27:28,664 --> 00:27:31,784 Speaker 3: And yeah, like anyone that does enjoy hearing about those things, 675 00:27:31,824 --> 00:27:35,744 Speaker 3: it's just so voyeuristic in the worst way possible. And 676 00:27:35,824 --> 00:27:38,504 Speaker 3: because I think that it's been going on for so long, 677 00:27:38,544 --> 00:27:42,104 Speaker 3: how long can he and other people around him, the 678 00:27:42,184 --> 00:27:45,784 Speaker 3: enablers basically call this use the mental health cart. 679 00:27:46,304 --> 00:27:48,504 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing is it's not good enough. But 680 00:27:48,624 --> 00:27:50,464 Speaker 1: I just don't know, Like it's just like this circle 681 00:27:50,664 --> 00:27:52,904 Speaker 1: with Knee West and like where he is in pop 682 00:27:52,944 --> 00:27:55,384 Speaker 1: culture and fame that feels like there's no end in 683 00:27:55,424 --> 00:27:58,704 Speaker 1: sight to it, because he's lost all of his brand deals, 684 00:27:58,744 --> 00:28:01,224 Speaker 1: He's been sued so many times, he's been dropped by 685 00:28:01,224 --> 00:28:04,184 Speaker 1: so many companies, He's lost so many of his famous friends. 686 00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:06,184 Speaker 1: He released a list the other day of people who 687 00:28:06,224 --> 00:28:09,384 Speaker 1: have wronged him and on there with the Kardashians, he 688 00:28:09,424 --> 00:28:11,384 Speaker 1: also said my kids. But it was like jay Z 689 00:28:11,584 --> 00:28:15,344 Speaker 1: and all these other famous names, so pretty much everyone 690 00:28:15,424 --> 00:28:17,064 Speaker 1: who were you know for a long time that he 691 00:28:17,144 --> 00:28:19,504 Speaker 1: was regarded as one of the greatest musicians in the world, 692 00:28:20,024 --> 00:28:22,024 Speaker 1: and a lot of people in the music industry now 693 00:28:22,024 --> 00:28:23,944 Speaker 1: because of all this stuff he said that's been really 694 00:28:23,944 --> 00:28:26,144 Speaker 1: graphic and anti semitic, and all this sort of stuff 695 00:28:26,544 --> 00:28:29,704 Speaker 1: has like been so disturbing that like the industry's turned 696 00:28:29,744 --> 00:28:31,864 Speaker 1: away from him, all his brands have turned away from him, 697 00:28:31,904 --> 00:28:34,544 Speaker 1: his famous friends, it seems like all of his family. 698 00:28:34,824 --> 00:28:36,544 Speaker 1: But because he still has so much money and he 699 00:28:36,584 --> 00:28:39,304 Speaker 1: still has such an intense fan base, it's like he 700 00:28:39,344 --> 00:28:41,744 Speaker 1: can never be canceled or like taken out the spotlight 701 00:28:41,744 --> 00:28:44,144 Speaker 1: because he's got his own spotlight. Like he's actually that's 702 00:28:44,144 --> 00:28:46,304 Speaker 1: the thing is that he's not reliant on any sort 703 00:28:46,344 --> 00:28:47,464 Speaker 1: of traditional media and. 704 00:28:47,424 --> 00:28:48,784 Speaker 2: Face anyone in particular. 705 00:28:48,944 --> 00:28:50,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he could really, I mean, he has released 706 00:28:50,784 --> 00:28:53,104 Speaker 1: new music, and as much as it doesn't get like 707 00:28:53,144 --> 00:28:54,904 Speaker 1: as much radio play and that sort of stuff as 708 00:28:54,904 --> 00:28:57,384 Speaker 1: it used to, Like, there's stwn so many fans, yeah, 709 00:28:57,464 --> 00:29:00,344 Speaker 1: who will buy his music. So it's an interesting thing 710 00:29:00,384 --> 00:29:02,664 Speaker 1: to watch from the outside of seeing this person sort 711 00:29:02,664 --> 00:29:05,984 Speaker 1: of demolish their own career and their family but still 712 00:29:05,984 --> 00:29:08,704 Speaker 1: be held up on this kind of pedestal, just because 713 00:29:08,944 --> 00:29:10,464 Speaker 1: I think goes to show that when you build her 714 00:29:10,464 --> 00:29:13,464 Speaker 1: own platform of fame like you do become untouchable. Yep. 715 00:29:13,864 --> 00:29:16,424 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, not a good week for Kim Kardashian, 716 00:29:16,624 --> 00:29:17,504 Speaker 1: no overall, but. 717 00:29:17,544 --> 00:29:20,584 Speaker 2: No, maybe I'll set her up with one of these farmers. 718 00:29:20,824 --> 00:29:22,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll share with Kimkadashian. Will you share, Thomas? 719 00:29:23,704 --> 00:29:25,864 Speaker 2: Probably yes? Actually no, let's she's going to go for 720 00:29:25,864 --> 00:29:27,064 Speaker 2: the young and the Jared. 721 00:29:27,464 --> 00:29:29,544 Speaker 1: I find Kim Kardashian very entertaining. I've got to say, 722 00:29:29,544 --> 00:29:30,984 Speaker 1: I actually don't have like a lot of ill will 723 00:29:31,024 --> 00:29:33,464 Speaker 1: towards her. Otherwise I wouldn't watch The Kardashians. But I 724 00:29:33,464 --> 00:29:35,864 Speaker 1: did find it was actually kind of sweet. Towards the 725 00:29:35,984 --> 00:29:38,544 Speaker 1: end of the last season of The Kardashians that she's 726 00:29:38,584 --> 00:29:41,944 Speaker 1: rebuilding that mausoleum house she lives in. She's rebuilding it, 727 00:29:42,024 --> 00:29:43,784 Speaker 1: I'm assuming because she built it with Carnee, and maybe 728 00:29:43,824 --> 00:29:44,944 Speaker 1: she just wants a fresh start. 729 00:29:45,064 --> 00:29:47,504 Speaker 2: Maybe she wanted sinks that were sinks. 730 00:29:47,664 --> 00:29:49,984 Speaker 1: Yeah that actually worked that bathroom as well. But she's 731 00:29:50,024 --> 00:29:53,264 Speaker 1: building a his in her closet and bathroom because she 732 00:29:53,304 --> 00:29:55,024 Speaker 1: wants to live for hope that she's going to fall 733 00:29:55,024 --> 00:29:57,304 Speaker 1: in love again and she just hasn't met her person yet. 734 00:29:57,464 --> 00:30:01,584 Speaker 1: And I just actually think that's really sweet, also very relatable. Yeah, exactly, 735 00:30:01,744 --> 00:30:03,544 Speaker 1: She's just like, I just haven't met my person yet, 736 00:30:03,544 --> 00:30:07,184 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, I feel but that does another 737 00:30:07,184 --> 00:30:09,424 Speaker 1: one to come. Exactly, there's always someone else. 738 00:30:09,944 --> 00:30:12,424 Speaker 3: Well, thanks so much for listening, and thanks so much 739 00:30:12,504 --> 00:30:14,664 Speaker 3: for having me on the pod again, Laura. 740 00:30:14,784 --> 00:30:16,424 Speaker 2: Make sure you're following us on Instagram. 741 00:30:17,144 --> 00:30:18,864 Speaker 3: Let us know what you thought of our little video 742 00:30:18,864 --> 00:30:20,304 Speaker 3: that we recreated yesterday. 743 00:30:20,664 --> 00:30:22,984 Speaker 2: Did I find that lying around the office my hat 744 00:30:23,064 --> 00:30:23,664 Speaker 2: that I founded? 745 00:30:24,064 --> 00:30:26,664 Speaker 1: Indeed I did. And this bill is produced by Amy 746 00:30:26,744 --> 00:30:29,424 Speaker 1: Kimball with audio production by Scott Stronik. And we'll see 747 00:30:29,424 --> 00:30:38,144 Speaker 1: you back in our feet at three pm tomorrow. Bye bye,