WEBVTT - How To Email and Slack Like A Man

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to a Mom with Me podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to biz your work Life Sorted. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>m Vernon and today we're diving into something that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>been flooding your TikTok feed. It's the email like a

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<v Speaker 2>Man trend.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Moment when you're crafting what you think is a perfectly

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<v Speaker 2>professional email and then suddenly you realize you've used five

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<v Speaker 2>exclamation points, three emojis, and apologized twice for something that

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<v Speaker 2>isn't even your fault. Well, this trend speaks to so

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<v Speaker 2>many women who do this and are trying to unlearn

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<v Speaker 2>this way of emailing. And today our career coaches Michelle

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<v Speaker 2>Battersby and soph Hurst are breaking down why women tend

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<v Speaker 2>to soften their communication at work, and more importantly, how

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<v Speaker 2>to strike that perfect balance between being direct and maintaining

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<v Speaker 2>your authentic voice. Michelle's actually lived both sides of this,

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<v Speaker 2>from the super direct world of investment banking to emoji

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<v Speaker 2>friendly culture at Bumble and Soap's Go. Some fascinating insights

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<v Speaker 2>from her time at Google about how the most effective

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<v Speaker 2>communicator is actually right. Plus, they're sharing their top seven

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<v Speaker 2>email mistakes We're making, yes, even the executives are making these,

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<v Speaker 2>and trust me, you're gonna want to take notes on

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<v Speaker 2>their practical swaps. For those cringe worthy corporate phrases we

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<v Speaker 2>all use.

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<v Speaker 3>It's given baby, never ever play me like I'm a I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty twenty four is the year we email like man.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a corpora goody like me, you know how

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<v Speaker 4>we subconsciously add exclamation points, emojis, kisses, and kindness because

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<v Speaker 4>that's just who we are, But we rarely receive.

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<v Speaker 5>The energy back from men by email.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's two not apologizing.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's to only putting one exclamation point in a paragraph

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<v Speaker 4>instead of five, And here's two not asking people if

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<v Speaker 4>that's okay with them.

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<v Speaker 5>They will.

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<v Speaker 4>So as I was thinking about this topic, I realized

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<v Speaker 4>that I started my career writing like a man because

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<v Speaker 4>I entered the workforce at an investment bank in an

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<v Speaker 4>environment that I guess was designed by men and led

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<v Speaker 4>by men, and so I therefore think the default communication

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<v Speaker 4>style in the organization was written like a man. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think, especially when you're earlier on in your career,

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<v Speaker 4>you just model what's around you. So I would just

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<v Speaker 4>receive these emails think okay, that's how I email, you

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<v Speaker 4>match their tone, you match their vibe. And then I

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<v Speaker 4>transitioned into working at Bumble and was met with a

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<v Speaker 4>million exclamation marks.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you change the way?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, but I remember thinking, oh my god, this

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<v Speaker 1>is so fun.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I get to use emojis, exclamation marks, kisses,

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<v Speaker 4>felt very casual. It was just complete opposite ends of

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<v Speaker 4>the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 3>In a way, I think you're actually lucky to have

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<v Speaker 3>had that experience.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to look up if they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually a difference between how men and women communicate, and

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<v Speaker 3>there are a bunch of studies that show that there

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<v Speaker 3>is obviously generalization, but women typically do use more indirect

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<v Speaker 3>language and men will be more direct. For example, women

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<v Speaker 3>can use more hedging language like just or I think

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<v Speaker 3>or perhaps one of the most simple things you can

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<v Speaker 3>do to make your emails stronger or to come across

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<v Speaker 3>as more confident, there's a few words that you should

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<v Speaker 3>just cut from your email vocabulary, and then there's some

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<v Speaker 3>really simple phrase swaps that you can actually do. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you just what a couple of I remember

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<v Speaker 3>when someone taught me this. It was like quite early

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<v Speaker 3>on in my career, and this amazing woman was like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you use these two words quite a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you just cut them out, you'll notice that

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<v Speaker 3>you sound a lot stronger. So the first word is

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<v Speaker 3>just so, you just don't need to say that, I

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<v Speaker 3>just but so instead of you know, just checking in

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<v Speaker 3>or just following up, just say checking in or following up.

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<v Speaker 5>So just cut the word just.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I think as well, so instead of saying

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think we should just say we should.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of others that I really like. So

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<v Speaker 3>instead of sorry for the delay, say thanks for waiting.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if you've made a mistake on something, instead

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<v Speaker 3>of saying sorry for missing that, say thanks for letting

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<v Speaker 3>me know. And then the classic could per my last email,

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<v Speaker 3>which is just so passive aggressive. I think that used

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<v Speaker 3>to be fine to say, but now, just like so

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<v Speaker 3>many people use it, I think it sounds really passive aggressive.

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<v Speaker 3>So I prefer to just say, like, do you have

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<v Speaker 3>any more questions on this? Or is there anything else

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<v Speaker 3>I can help you with? To like reply kind of

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<v Speaker 3>thing or respond to reply. But I do think the

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<v Speaker 3>one thing that you really notice the difference between when

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<v Speaker 3>you look at the way people who are more junior

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<v Speaker 3>starting out in their career email versus people are getting

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<v Speaker 3>more senior is just the length.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, when you're starting out, you just I think

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of young people just write these really long emails,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think as you get more senior, you start

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out that you don't need all that information.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say, though, I love this TikTok that we

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<v Speaker 3>will put in the newsletter. The caption is time to

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<v Speaker 3>write emails like a CEO who earns forty times my

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<v Speaker 3>salary and he has a whole bara cup of text

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<v Speaker 3>which he then just deletes and in the subject line

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<v Speaker 3>he writes, send the presentation. And the thing I talk

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<v Speaker 3>to young people about this all the time, and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine for CEOs to write that way, but if I,

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<v Speaker 3>as a junior person, wrote that way, that wouldn't be cool.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think, like we'll often say to young people like,

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<v Speaker 3>you need to write shorulder emails. But then I actually

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<v Speaker 3>have a bone to pick with execs in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>the way they write emails. So we'll get into that

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit later in the episode. Michelle, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to know, so you had this experience of emailing like

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<v Speaker 3>a man and then emailing like a woman fumble.

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<v Speaker 5>How do you email?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>So I do think my style is now more of

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<v Speaker 4>a blend, and I actually do comb through my own

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<v Speaker 4>emails and remove words like just because I've seen the

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<v Speaker 4>research I've heard, you know, the kind of discourse on this.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also weirdly like reread my emails like three

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<v Speaker 4>times before I send them. And I also once I

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<v Speaker 4>send something, especially like a high pressure email that I've

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<v Speaker 4>read through like five or six times before I've even

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<v Speaker 4>pressed send, and then go into my scent folder and

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<v Speaker 4>I read it again and I'm like, oh, did I

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<v Speaker 4>do that well? And I'm like, is that just me?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the more senior or like, the more important

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<v Speaker 3>the person is that you're emailing, and the more times

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to read it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yea.

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<v Speaker 3>There is that function on Gmail where you can set it,

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<v Speaker 3>so there's like a unsandal as.

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<v Speaker 5>I do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because there's a psychological thing that happens in your

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<v Speaker 3>brain the second you send it you're like, oh my god, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't put the thing in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's totally normal.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you were doing that when you were emailing,

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<v Speaker 3>like your co founder, then that would be kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>No, so so you have worked on tips for anyone

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<v Speaker 6>listening things that might be undermining your email or slack style.

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<v Speaker 4>I just cannot wait for these because I've also received

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<v Speaker 4>your emails and they're really good. Like I've started modeling you.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to say for the record that I

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<v Speaker 3>was never good at this stuff, so it's definitely something

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<v Speaker 3>that you just get better out of time. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's so interesting, like we started writing more emails so

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<v Speaker 3>we could have less meetings, and then we started using

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<v Speaker 3>Slack more so that we could have less emails, and

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<v Speaker 3>now we're even kind of lazier and more careless in Slack.

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<v Speaker 3>So I do think it's really hard. I actually read

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<v Speaker 3>the other day that a third of emails that we

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<v Speaker 3>send at work that need a response go completely unchecked

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing. So I just think that we are

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<v Speaker 3>completely drowning in text and we all need to help

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<v Speaker 3>each other. So yeah, I think, just before I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of get into the seven things, I will just say,

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<v Speaker 3>with communication, we live in our own heads, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>it makes sense like we're in our bodies, we're in

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<v Speaker 3>our head, so so much about communicating is we sit

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<v Speaker 3>there thinking, you know, what do I want to say

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<v Speaker 3>to this person? What do I need to say? And

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<v Speaker 3>we're kind of in our own heads. The best communicators

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<v Speaker 3>get out of their own head and they think about

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<v Speaker 3>the other person. And so the trap that we get

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<v Speaker 3>into is we'll go to sit at our keyboard and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll either be reacting to something that someone has said

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<v Speaker 3>to us or we'll be thinking, okay, like what do

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say? Really, you need to be thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about the other person. What do they need to hear?

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<v Speaker 3>What do they need to know now? And what can

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<v Speaker 3>they maybe know later? What kind of situation are they

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<v Speaker 3>going to be in when they receive your email or

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<v Speaker 3>your plack message. Just like, think about them more, And

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<v Speaker 3>I think the quickie you can learn that muscle memory

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<v Speaker 3>of doing that all the time. It honestly takes ten

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<v Speaker 3>seconds before you start typing. Just spend ten seconds thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about the person or people that you're sending.

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<v Speaker 5>Your communication to. I feel like I'm being a teacher now.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I love it, But I know this sounds like hectic,

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<v Speaker 3>extra work.

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<v Speaker 5>I promise you it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>And like, if we all get better at this, it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to make everyone's lives easier.

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<v Speaker 5>So did you learn to do that?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was really bad, and I will say I

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<v Speaker 3>can't actually type properly, so I type with three fingers.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I was never good at this.

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<v Speaker 3>So I joined Google, and I think that's really where

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<v Speaker 3>I learned because the engineers are very good at written communication,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, so, same just like learning through modeling, modeling.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly, I learned through modly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you are sitting there thinking is this email

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<v Speaker 3>too long, the answer is yes. And even if you're

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<v Speaker 3>not sitting there thinking that your email is still too long.

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<v Speaker 3>So the shorter your email, the faster you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get a reply. And if someone can actually see if

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<v Speaker 3>you think about your email on a like a mobile

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<v Speaker 3>phone screen, if someone can actually see the end of it,

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<v Speaker 3>they're way more likely to respond to you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is such a good point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, honestly, when you're emailing, especially when you're emailing

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<v Speaker 3>up to sort of seeing new people but really just anyone,

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<v Speaker 3>you might be better off having a few short exchanges

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<v Speaker 3>of like short things, rather than trying to put everything

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<v Speaker 3>into one email. But it is a trade off, right,

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<v Speaker 3>You can't put everything into a single email. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to decide would I rather someone actually read these three

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<v Speaker 3>points or risk trying to send them an email with

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen points and know that.

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<v Speaker 5>They're actually just not going to read it.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the first thing, is your email needs to

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<v Speaker 3>be shorter, and just a couple of tips like it

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<v Speaker 3>does really help to you can just put the text

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<v Speaker 3>into chat, GPT or whatever your company's allowed to use

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<v Speaker 3>and just say, reduce this by fifty percent. Obviously read

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<v Speaker 3>it because it can cut out information you need. But

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<v Speaker 3>the main trap people get suck in is you can't

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<v Speaker 3>write a concise email unless you're clear about what you.

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<v Speaker 5>Want to say.

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<v Speaker 3>So back to my point before, just spend ten seconds

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about what you actually need to say to this

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<v Speaker 3>person before you start typing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when you receive an email and it looks

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<v Speaker 4>fucking massive, you also can just take a quick glance

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<v Speaker 4>at it, think oh my god, that's huge, mark it

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<v Speaker 4>as unread, and then it just gets buried in your

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<v Speaker 4>inbox and you've mentally marked it as it's in a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a too hard basket. It's going to take

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<v Speaker 4>me some time, so I'm not even going to bother

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<v Speaker 4>until I've got that time, which might not come around

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<v Speaker 4>for another few days exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the thing is, like, there is a

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<v Speaker 3>difference between sort of internal emails that we're sending all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. And maybe you're emailing a client or someone

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<v Speaker 3>that you don't email a lot. But if you're emailing

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<v Speaker 3>people a lot, you should be having a conversation. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I used to say to my team, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>send really short direct emails. But that's just because it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to save us all time, and please do that

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<v Speaker 3>back to me. But that's because we have a relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Back to what I said earlier, I have a bone

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<v Speaker 3>to pick with executives. Can emails be too short? And

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<v Speaker 3>the answer is yes, because it's like all the execs

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<v Speaker 3>in the world got together and agreed, let's all send

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<v Speaker 3>three word emails. And the thing with that is I

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<v Speaker 3>sit there sometimes I get emails from execs and I

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<v Speaker 3>sit there for ten minutes trying to figure out what

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<v Speaker 3>they are actually trying to say because they've given me

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<v Speaker 3>no context. So, like, your point is to send an

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<v Speaker 3>email that is clear, and sometimes to send a clear

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<v Speaker 3>email you need to give the right amount of context.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not just about the shortest email you can

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<v Speaker 3>possibly write.

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<v Speaker 4>I also think if you receive a really short, brief,

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes cold in tone email from an exec, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>a junior person, you can also sit there thinking do

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<v Speaker 4>they hate me?

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<v Speaker 1>And I also feel as an exec.

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<v Speaker 4>You need to be aware of the fact that you

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<v Speaker 4>might not even realize that you're intimidating someone. Simply just

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<v Speaker 4>the title that you have might intimidate someone. It's nothing

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<v Speaker 4>about you, and you need to be conscious of that.

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<v Speaker 4>And as an exec, I don't want to sit there

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<v Speaker 4>and scare someone just because I can't be bothered to

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<v Speaker 4>like I think at it as an exec. Maybe sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>they need to do that have a great weekend, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so the person on the other side just feels a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit better about dealing with them.

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<v Speaker 5>Michelle, I totally agree. I was getting a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>too enthusiastic when you were talking.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing, right back to the point I said,

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<v Speaker 3>before thinking about the person your email in. So the

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<v Speaker 3>average rate of emails that an executive get today is

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<v Speaker 3>like seven hundred, and at Google it was more like

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<v Speaker 3>a thousand. I know sometimes you need to send one

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<v Speaker 3>word emails for sure, but there is a level of

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<v Speaker 3>think about the people you're emailing as well. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I think sometimes yet like yeah, approved one word. Fine,

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<v Speaker 3>But there are times when you you know someone's worked

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<v Speaker 3>really hard on something and give them one extra sentence.

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<v Speaker 4>Or even saying I loved this email, like really appreciate

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<v Speaker 4>the conciseness of this email.

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<v Speaker 5>Answer, just help them out of it, give them something

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<v Speaker 5>you need to write a dear executive's letter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, So point number one was your email's too long,

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<v Speaker 3>and then point number two is your emails upside down,

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<v Speaker 3>so measure I wonder have you heard of this bluff

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<v Speaker 3>bottom line up front?

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<v Speaker 1>No method?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so it's a method used in military communication. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know how we at work we kind of joke

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<v Speaker 3>around like, oh, guys, we're not saving lives. Well, in

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<v Speaker 3>the military, they actually are saving lives. So the way

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<v Speaker 3>that they email and communicate is really important. And the

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<v Speaker 3>basic principle is that we think and want to communicate chronologically.

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<v Speaker 3>So most people it's like this happened, then this happened,

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<v Speaker 3>then this happened, and what that means when you are

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<v Speaker 3>emailing it, you'll often say explanation, explanation, Can you review

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<v Speaker 3>this doc and then send me feedback by Friday?

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<v Speaker 5>But what you actually want to do is completely flip it.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to put that part right up the top

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<v Speaker 3>and then put the context and the explaining points underneath that.

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<v Speaker 3>So the method it's bottom line upfront, which literally means

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<v Speaker 3>what is the bottom line for this person? Usually that

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<v Speaker 3>is in the form of a request that you're asking,

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<v Speaker 3>or like a critical update or a recommendation you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to give.

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<v Speaker 5>So ask yourself, what if the bottom line for this person?

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<v Speaker 5>Put that up the top.

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<v Speaker 3>I often just bold it, so often just say like hi, Michelle,

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<v Speaker 3>bolded statement, and then you say context or like this

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<v Speaker 3>is why I've said this, and you put a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of bullet points underneath. And then sometimes if you need

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<v Speaker 3>even more information, you can link out. I often under

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<v Speaker 3>my signature will often do like a little appendix almost

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<v Speaker 3>that has like more explanation if they need to get

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<v Speaker 3>into it.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, if you want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Know more about that, by the way, you can just

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<v Speaker 3>ask chat to teach you teach me more about the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom line upfront method. I'll actually do it before and

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<v Speaker 3>after example, because I think that's the easiest way to

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<v Speaker 3>understand it. Actually, let's say this is a Slack message,

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<v Speaker 3>because this is about Slack two, right, before example would

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<v Speaker 3>be so, let's pretend you're having a Slack conversation with

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<v Speaker 3>someone and your manager is asking you this. So they say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>so did the project launch yesterday? And you say, ah,

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<v Speaker 3>so the approval went through to the webtam but they're

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<v Speaker 3>out of office, so we had to log a ticket

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<v Speaker 3>with the support and now we're waiting to hear back

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<v Speaker 3>and the new ETA is Wednesday. The after example would be, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>so did the project launch yesterday? The project didn't launch yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>The new ETA is Wednesday, nine am. Reason for the

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<v Speaker 3>delay web teams out of office. I escalated it via

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<v Speaker 3>the support team. I'll stay across it. We'll let you

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<v Speaker 3>know if I need anything. So that's the difference between

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<v Speaker 3>putting the point of the email right at the top

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<v Speaker 3>and then explaining the context later.

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<v Speaker 4>It actually is a little bit of a marketing exercise

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<v Speaker 4>when you think about it. Like I was writing a

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<v Speaker 4>job description the other day and it was a really

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<v Speaker 4>good financial offer, and so usually I kind of put

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<v Speaker 4>that at the bottom, but I thought, no, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to pull that up to the top because I want

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<v Speaker 4>to get more eyeballs on this. I'm going to lead

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<v Speaker 4>with like the gold. Then I'm going to make the

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<v Speaker 4>job sound quite easy. So I pulled like the deliverables

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<v Speaker 4>up from the bottom, and then I kind of got

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<v Speaker 4>more into the detail underneath, because I felt like the

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<v Speaker 4>detail might make people just tune out and then they're

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<v Speaker 4>not saying, oh, hey, this is actually a pretty easy

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<v Speaker 4>job and they're going to pay really.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, did you see exactly what you just did there?

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<v Speaker 3>What just thinking about the audience and maybe you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>to your point around is it normal and is it

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<v Speaker 3>okay to reread my emails?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and like we actually should be doing that more.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously we don't want to do it to every Slack

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<v Speaker 3>message in every email, but if we actually just once

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<v Speaker 3>read through, will often find that we hide the point

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<v Speaker 3>of the email at the bottom, and you just want

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<v Speaker 3>to bring that up to the top. I will just

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<v Speaker 3>say again, caveat. This is like you know a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of internal emails. If you're emailing clients, you're probably not

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<v Speaker 3>going to write like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into number three.

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<v Speaker 3>If you are sending someone an email where you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to ask them for something, and you put how are

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<v Speaker 3>you at the top of that email, you're already asking

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<v Speaker 3>them for something that they have to answer, so you're

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<v Speaker 3>better off instead of saying how are you, just saying

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<v Speaker 3>hope you're well or hope you had a good weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Make the one thing you ask them in that email

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<v Speaker 3>the thing you actually want. If you are emailing senior executives,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't need to put that at all. How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Hope you're well? Just completely cut it. They will not

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<v Speaker 3>think you're rude. They will thank you for respecting their time.

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<v Speaker 3>This goes into the debate of like warm versus directness,

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<v Speaker 3>And I do think you know, you do need to

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<v Speaker 3>have a balance of warmth versus direct But the mistake

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people make is thinking that being warm

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<v Speaker 3>is putting a bunch of small.

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<v Speaker 5>Talk at the start.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so yeah, I'm not saying don't have any small talk,

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<v Speaker 3>and again, think about who you're emailing. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>people get pretty lazy with the how are you? Hope

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<v Speaker 3>you're well and you don't actually care how someone is.

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<v Speaker 3>If you genuinely aren't wondering how someone is, or you

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<v Speaker 3>want to send them a slack message, it's like how

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<v Speaker 3>are you? That's awesome, but like, don't say it to

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<v Speaker 3>be lazy, and then the other person will often sit

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<v Speaker 3>there thinking like do they want me to actually tell

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<v Speaker 3>them how I am? Or are they just saying that?

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<v Speaker 3>And then you have to decide to.

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<v Speaker 4>Say, no, I've one hundred percent thought of that when

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<v Speaker 4>people say how are you, and like, oh, do they

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<v Speaker 4>really want to know?

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<v Speaker 1>How much of a rundown do they want?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you give us an example of how you can

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<v Speaker 4>be warm and direct at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is like the biggest thing, right, So there

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<v Speaker 3>is no one way because the whole point is that

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<v Speaker 3>you personalize it to who you're talking to. But again,

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<v Speaker 3>the mistake a lot of people make is thinking being

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<v Speaker 3>is putting a whole bunch of small talk at the

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<v Speaker 3>top of your email. It's often better to get to

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<v Speaker 3>the point of your email and then put warmth at

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom. So at the bottom, maybe you can put

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<v Speaker 3>some language around, asking how they are, or like softening it.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think that like emojis do play a really

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<v Speaker 3>important role. It's actually a bunch of studies where it's

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<v Speaker 3>really hard to read tone through text, so a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of our understanding of communication actually comes through verbal cues.

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<v Speaker 3>So exclamation marks do have a place, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>we use them in the wrong places.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'll get to that right at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>But back to your question, Michelle around any tips for

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<v Speaker 3>conveying warmth but still being direct. One of the best

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<v Speaker 3>things you can do is to write in very human language.

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<v Speaker 3>And the way you can catch yourself if you're not

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<v Speaker 3>doing that is to just read your email out loud.

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<v Speaker 3>If that's not the way you would actually say it

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<v Speaker 3>in person, then don't write it.

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<v Speaker 5>And so you can also just use.

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<v Speaker 3>Chat Jitpitt and say can you rewrite this to some

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<v Speaker 3>or human But I think in general like warmth comes

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<v Speaker 3>through in subtle, small ways. It's not about using a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of softening language. I think in general, women especially

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<v Speaker 3>we can be more direct than what we think. It

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<v Speaker 3>feels uncomfortable because we're not used to emailing like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think once you start doing it, you'll realize that.

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<v Speaker 3>One you'll notice people that you respect, who you definitely

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<v Speaker 3>think of a warm will often send quite direct and

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<v Speaker 3>like clear emails. So you know, think about you know

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<v Speaker 3>people in your company who may really respect and see

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<v Speaker 3>how they email. So I think in general it feels

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit weird, but try it out, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the way you actually build warmth is through real life channels.

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<v Speaker 3>Or sometimes through slack, build warmth through those other channels

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<v Speaker 3>and then yeah, you can actually be way more direct

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<v Speaker 3>in comms.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, amazing. I love that as a tip focus

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<v Speaker 1>on warmth in real life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, all right. Number four not using sign posting.

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<v Speaker 3>So do you know what sign posting is?

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<v Speaker 1>No, actually don't.

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<v Speaker 3>So large blocks of text are actually really hard for

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<v Speaker 3>our brains to process. Most people's brains find it really

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<v Speaker 3>hard to process. So sign posting is as simple as

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<v Speaker 3>using bold headers and bullet points. And I know it's sound

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<v Speaker 3>so basic, right, but it actually just like breaking up

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<v Speaker 3>large blocks of text is really helpful. People don't read emails,

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<v Speaker 3>they scan, and that is a universal truth no matter

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<v Speaker 3>what country, no matter what company you work for. People

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<v Speaker 3>don't read your email from top to bottom.

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<v Speaker 5>They scan.

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<v Speaker 3>So actually help them with the scanning. So something I

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<v Speaker 3>love to do. Sometimes I'll sit down and if I'm

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<v Speaker 3>emailing someone, I'll actually just think, like, what are the

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<v Speaker 3>questions that they might have, And I'll often just use

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<v Speaker 3>their questions as my subheaders and then put bullet points

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<v Speaker 3>under that, even if I'm just writing a really short email.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes so say, it's just like a couple of sentences.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I will steal bold certain words and just like

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<v Speaker 3>put it into two bullet points just so it's easier

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<v Speaker 3>for people to understand.

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<v Speaker 4>It's even like proven that when you're applying for jobs,

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<v Speaker 4>recruiters will look at someone's CV for seven seconds. So

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<v Speaker 4>the way you structure your resume is like key achievements

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<v Speaker 4>must be in bold, like yeah, no one cares about

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<v Speaker 4>the dot points of like your skills and expertise, like

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<v Speaker 4>show your brilliance so someone can consume it in like

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<v Speaker 4>the blink of an eye and.

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<v Speaker 5>Sat and second. So yeah, yeah, it's actually like philosophy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so know that people aren't really reading your email properly,

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<v Speaker 3>but help them with that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Number five is don't use cliched corporate speak in

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<v Speaker 5>your email. Speak like a human.

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<v Speaker 3>So the thing that I think people underestimate sometimes is

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<v Speaker 3>just calling it like it is. So say, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>I had someone do this to me the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>They're actually chasing me, so they'd chase me and then

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<v Speaker 3>I hadn't responded to the chase, and so they were

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<v Speaker 3>chasing me a third time.

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<v Speaker 5>And they actually just called it like it is, and they.

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<v Speaker 3>Were like, I know, I'm bugging you at this point,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm giving it one more shot because this is really

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<v Speaker 3>important to get a response from you by Friday because

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<v Speaker 3>of this reason. And I was like, thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>just calling it like it is. You know, she didn't

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<v Speaker 3>say per my last email. She just spoke like a human,

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, right on, So I think, just like,

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<v Speaker 3>stop using cliche corporates, beak just speak like a human.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you seen the TikTok trend where they go around

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<v Speaker 4>the office and they ask everyone what's their most hated

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<v Speaker 4>like corporate one lineer and it's let's circle back per

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<v Speaker 4>my last email. I actually asked chat GPT this. It

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<v Speaker 4>made me lol, let's circle back on this is top

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<v Speaker 4>of their list. They label this as corporate robot speak,

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<v Speaker 4>let's circle back, just following up per my last email.

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<v Speaker 4>Hope this email finds you well, and let's take this offline.

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<v Speaker 4>These ones are funny though. It's like hollow praise and

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<v Speaker 4>cringe worthy positivity. Love that for us, And then chat

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<v Speaker 4>GPT guys in brackets do we do we really? And

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<v Speaker 4>then it goes let's put a pin in that and

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<v Speaker 4>then chat JVT in brackets that pin should be.

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<v Speaker 5>Permanent CHATJPT has sad.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're a rock star. Just say thank you

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<v Speaker 1>and give me a raise.

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<v Speaker 5>I love this. We'll have to put this in the newsletter. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And then my final point is, yes, you use too

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<v Speaker 3>many exclamation marks, and they're in the wrong places. So

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<v Speaker 3>exclamation marks are fine. I'm not saying don't use them,

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<v Speaker 3>but we use them in the wrong places. And yes,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people do use too many. So the

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<v Speaker 3>way a lot of people use exclamation marks is to

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<v Speaker 3>try and get someone excited about something that is not

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<v Speaker 3>objectively exciting. So here's that spreadsheet you wanted it, or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like inviting you to our mandatory finance training is like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not exciting, but yes, definitely, if something is objectively exciting,

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<v Speaker 3>put an exclamation mark on it. I do think sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>they can be helpful to soften the tone of an email,

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<v Speaker 3>but again, I think emojis can be really good for

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<v Speaker 3>that as well.

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<v Speaker 5>What's your take on exclamation marks?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I worked in a workplace where they

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<v Speaker 4>were used at the end of basically every sentence, and

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<v Speaker 4>I had to go through it on learning to be honest.

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<v Speaker 4>Once I left that workplace, and they actually did damage

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<v Speaker 4>to the culture a little bit because they meant people

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<v Speaker 4>being pray they felt like they were being praised when

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<v Speaker 4>they were kind of just doing the bare minimum.

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<v Speaker 1>So they can be a bit damaging.

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<v Speaker 5>It's actually really undermining.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're someone who's trying to be taken more seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>you're trying to show up as more senior. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to appear more confident in your emails, Like just

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<v Speaker 3>stop using exclamation marks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think they've become overused in culture as well.

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<v Speaker 5>To be honest, yeah, I gave everyone a lot of rules.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to say there are no actual rules,

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<v Speaker 3>like be yourself and think about the person that you're

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<v Speaker 3>actually emailing. If you're trying to show up as more

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<v Speaker 3>senior and confident, these things are going to help you.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're just going to recap them quickly with one

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<v Speaker 3>action that you can start taking today. Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready ready?

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<v Speaker 5>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Number one, your email's too long, so instead take ten

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<v Speaker 3>seconds to think about the person you're sending your email

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<v Speaker 3>to and think like, what do they need?

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<v Speaker 5>And use chat GPT.

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<v Speaker 3>To reduce the text by fifty percent. Number two, your

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<v Speaker 3>email is upside down. Write it look for what the

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<v Speaker 3>point of the email is. Put that up the top,

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<v Speaker 3>put it in bolt. Number three. Small talk isn't warmth,

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<v Speaker 3>so cut the lazy how are you? Yes, use emojis

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<v Speaker 3>if that's the right vibe. Appreciate Say thank you in

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<v Speaker 3>emails can bring out warmth. But also just have a

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with each other around how you're going to email.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're emailing people all the time, talk about how

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to do it. Number four, use signposting, so

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<v Speaker 3>bold and bullets even on slack, Like especially on Slack,

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<v Speaker 3>you should be using bold and bullets. Number five, no

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<v Speaker 3>corporate robots fake, so read it out loud to yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>If you wouldn't say it, then don't write it. And

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<v Speaker 3>then number six, be intentional about your exclamation marks. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not saying cut them completely, but use them in the

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<v Speaker 3>right places.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love these so much. They're going to help

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<v Speaker 1>many people.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned so much from this episode, especially how it's

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<v Speaker 2>not about completely changing how we communicate. It's about being

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<v Speaker 2>intentional with our words and knowing when to be direct

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<v Speaker 2>versus when to add that personal touch. And sometimes the

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<v Speaker 2>most powerful thing you can do is just hits end

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<v Speaker 2>without overthinking it. Speaking of intentional communication, make sure you

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<v Speaker 2>check out this week's BUZ Newsletter, where we're sharing those

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<v Speaker 2>before and after email templates that's so mentioned earlier, Plus

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<v Speaker 2>at Hilarious TikTok about the CEO who writes three word emails.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're loving these practical career tips, follow us

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<v Speaker 2>catch you in Thursday's biz Inbox, where we tackle all

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