1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:11,384 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 3: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,384 Speaker 3: that this podcast is recorded on. 5 00:00:25,224 --> 00:00:28,504 Speaker 4: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop 6 00:00:28,544 --> 00:00:32,144 Speaker 4: culture fix. I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brodnick Oh 7 00:00:32,184 --> 00:00:35,144 Speaker 4: my god, do we have an episode for you. We 8 00:00:35,264 --> 00:00:39,944 Speaker 4: are doing our big, bad Golden Globes special. I am 9 00:00:40,024 --> 00:00:42,104 Speaker 4: very very excited. We're going to be talking about all 10 00:00:42,144 --> 00:00:44,784 Speaker 4: of our favorite winners speeches. We're going to talk about 11 00:00:44,784 --> 00:00:47,904 Speaker 4: all the viral moments, including the moment you might have missed. 12 00:00:48,264 --> 00:00:50,264 Speaker 4: But first we have to take it back to the beginning. 13 00:00:50,864 --> 00:00:55,464 Speaker 5: Good evening, and welcome to the eighty second Golden Globes. 14 00:00:55,584 --> 00:00:57,224 Speaker 3: Oh Zempe's Biggest Night. 15 00:00:58,864 --> 00:01:02,344 Speaker 5: I'm Nicki Glazer and I am absolutely thrilled to be 16 00:01:02,424 --> 00:01:08,384 Speaker 5: your host tonight. Thank you, And I gotta say, I 17 00:01:08,544 --> 00:01:10,064 Speaker 5: gotta say this feels. 18 00:01:09,744 --> 00:01:10,944 Speaker 3: Like a final invade it. 19 00:01:10,984 --> 00:01:13,304 Speaker 5: You know, I'm in a room full of producers at 20 00:01:13,344 --> 00:01:16,384 Speaker 5: the Beverly Hilton Hotel and this time all of. 21 00:01:16,344 --> 00:01:21,264 Speaker 4: My clothes are on. So yeah, it was worth it. 22 00:01:22,264 --> 00:01:25,824 Speaker 3: Yes, So comedian Nicki Glazer hosted the night and there 23 00:01:25,904 --> 00:01:27,944 Speaker 3: was a lot of eyes on who was going to 24 00:01:27,984 --> 00:01:29,864 Speaker 3: be the host, how they were going to perform. That's 25 00:01:29,864 --> 00:01:32,344 Speaker 3: always a big takeaway from the night. And really they 26 00:01:32,384 --> 00:01:35,464 Speaker 3: set the tone with the opening monologue. So in the past, 27 00:01:35,504 --> 00:01:38,584 Speaker 3: that's where posts like an Amy Pohler in a Tina 28 00:01:38,624 --> 00:01:41,344 Speaker 3: Fade and other award shows have killed it. Ricky Gervais 29 00:01:41,464 --> 00:01:44,144 Speaker 3: the many times he hosted the Golden Globes, that's where 30 00:01:44,184 --> 00:01:46,104 Speaker 3: he used to kill it. So all eyes are on Niki, 31 00:01:46,504 --> 00:01:49,464 Speaker 3: and she was really open going into it about how 32 00:01:49,544 --> 00:01:51,584 Speaker 3: much work she was putting into the monologue and how 33 00:01:51,624 --> 00:01:53,784 Speaker 3: much she cared about it. She said that she had 34 00:01:53,824 --> 00:01:56,024 Speaker 3: fully run it, like just in her apartment or practicing 35 00:01:56,064 --> 00:01:58,904 Speaker 3: over ninety times, but she had also toured around at 36 00:01:58,944 --> 00:02:01,464 Speaker 3: different comedy clubs to test it out. Yeah, so she 37 00:02:01,544 --> 00:02:03,504 Speaker 3: was quite polished by the time she got to stage. 38 00:02:03,544 --> 00:02:05,904 Speaker 4: The amount of prep that she said she put into it, 39 00:02:05,984 --> 00:02:07,664 Speaker 4: I was admired by. 40 00:02:07,704 --> 00:02:10,144 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you have to do for something like that. 41 00:02:10,384 --> 00:02:13,784 Speaker 4: But it looked so intense, and she did it so seamlessly, 42 00:02:14,384 --> 00:02:16,904 Speaker 4: like it felt like she was born to be there, 43 00:02:17,024 --> 00:02:21,744 Speaker 4: like any nerves wasn't there. But I was expecting something 44 00:02:22,224 --> 00:02:25,704 Speaker 4: way different to really she did because I love her 45 00:02:25,824 --> 00:02:29,304 Speaker 4: I've watched all her roasts, and she is so rogue 46 00:02:29,384 --> 00:02:31,424 Speaker 4: and funny at the roast every time she does one 47 00:02:31,464 --> 00:02:33,184 Speaker 4: of the roast, especially the Tom Brady one. She's one 48 00:02:33,224 --> 00:02:36,624 Speaker 4: hundred percent the funniest comedian up on stage roasting. And 49 00:02:36,664 --> 00:02:39,304 Speaker 4: I felt like she played it a little bit safe 50 00:02:39,424 --> 00:02:42,344 Speaker 4: at the Golden Globes, and I felt like my expectations 51 00:02:42,424 --> 00:02:45,984 Speaker 4: were high because she said that she had called Ricky 52 00:02:46,024 --> 00:02:49,584 Speaker 4: Gervais to ask for advice and he said, just do 53 00:02:50,144 --> 00:02:51,704 Speaker 4: what you did at the roast, So that's kind of 54 00:02:51,704 --> 00:02:54,784 Speaker 4: what I was expecting. And the Ricky Gervais effect of 55 00:02:54,824 --> 00:02:57,544 Speaker 4: the Golden Globes, like people either love him or they 56 00:02:57,584 --> 00:03:00,944 Speaker 4: hate him, but his Golden Globes roast and like his 57 00:03:01,064 --> 00:03:04,224 Speaker 4: monologue one hundred percent the most viral because he actually 58 00:03:04,264 --> 00:03:07,704 Speaker 4: doesn't care, Like he actually doesn't care about what the 59 00:03:07,744 --> 00:03:09,864 Speaker 4: people in the room think about him. And I think 60 00:03:09,904 --> 00:03:13,544 Speaker 4: when your in people who do care about what other 61 00:03:13,584 --> 00:03:16,824 Speaker 4: people think about them and who are like also presenting 62 00:03:16,904 --> 00:03:21,464 Speaker 4: amongst peers and friends, you can't be that hard roaster 63 00:03:21,744 --> 00:03:23,944 Speaker 4: as she was in the roaster she's been doing. 64 00:03:24,024 --> 00:03:26,424 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's always the fine line for comedians, though, 65 00:03:26,504 --> 00:03:28,744 Speaker 3: is that they're so used to often touring and playing 66 00:03:28,744 --> 00:03:30,824 Speaker 3: to a whole room of people who are their fans. 67 00:03:30,864 --> 00:03:33,664 Speaker 3: They've bought a ticket and they're there to see them 68 00:03:33,904 --> 00:03:35,904 Speaker 3: do these like risky jokes and that sort of thing. 69 00:03:36,264 --> 00:03:39,224 Speaker 3: But then when you're hosting something like the Golden Globes, like, yes, 70 00:03:39,264 --> 00:03:41,344 Speaker 3: you're there to entertain, but you're also there like hold 71 00:03:41,384 --> 00:03:44,624 Speaker 3: the evening together, keep things moving. It's kind of that 72 00:03:44,704 --> 00:03:47,344 Speaker 3: fine line about it's about you, but not about you. 73 00:03:47,664 --> 00:03:50,784 Speaker 3: That worked for Ricky Gervas because he would just kind 74 00:03:50,784 --> 00:03:53,784 Speaker 3: of slaughter everyone in the room with his jokes and 75 00:03:54,504 --> 00:03:57,064 Speaker 3: it was very entertaining for the audience at home, and 76 00:03:57,104 --> 00:03:58,704 Speaker 3: I think even the people in the room they kind 77 00:03:58,704 --> 00:04:00,704 Speaker 3: of just stealed themselves knowing it was going to happen. 78 00:04:01,064 --> 00:04:03,704 Speaker 3: But I think the biggest criticism of last year's host, 79 00:04:03,784 --> 00:04:06,624 Speaker 3: Joe Coy, was that he tried to play it the 80 00:04:06,664 --> 00:04:08,584 Speaker 3: same way he would for his audience, and he's got 81 00:04:08,624 --> 00:04:12,224 Speaker 3: a huge audience and it didn't land with being part 82 00:04:12,264 --> 00:04:14,224 Speaker 3: of the show, and that's where the criticism came from. 83 00:04:14,304 --> 00:04:15,864 Speaker 3: So I feel like Nikki was kind of walking that 84 00:04:15,944 --> 00:04:18,024 Speaker 3: fine line. She did have a few moments she was 85 00:04:18,064 --> 00:04:20,184 Speaker 3: playing it safe, and she said going in that she 86 00:04:20,264 --> 00:04:21,904 Speaker 3: wasn't going to make jokes about eighty of the big 87 00:04:21,984 --> 00:04:24,624 Speaker 3: kind of controversial things that were going on the world 88 00:04:24,664 --> 00:04:27,704 Speaker 3: that she wasn't going to touch Blake Lively and justin 89 00:04:27,744 --> 00:04:29,584 Speaker 3: Baldoni's legal issues. 90 00:04:29,744 --> 00:04:31,784 Speaker 4: She touched another legal issue though. 91 00:04:31,584 --> 00:04:33,264 Speaker 3: Well she did well, I think because she's like, I 92 00:04:33,264 --> 00:04:34,824 Speaker 3: don't want to be on the wrong side because that's 93 00:04:34,864 --> 00:04:37,104 Speaker 3: still unfolding. But yeah, she did. She'd have a p 94 00:04:37,224 --> 00:04:39,384 Speaker 3: did a joke in there, Sean Comb's joke. But I 95 00:04:39,384 --> 00:04:41,904 Speaker 3: think that's because we can all safely assume that she's 96 00:04:41,904 --> 00:04:43,464 Speaker 3: on the right side of history with that one. 97 00:04:43,584 --> 00:04:45,904 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what, You're right, especially about the 98 00:04:46,144 --> 00:04:48,344 Speaker 4: joke y because she had to come back from that 99 00:04:48,464 --> 00:04:52,624 Speaker 4: after seeing the intense backlash he received for his I 100 00:04:52,664 --> 00:04:56,624 Speaker 4: guess subper monologue, and then also on top of that, 101 00:04:56,704 --> 00:04:58,944 Speaker 4: being a woman and constantly having to do these interviews 102 00:04:58,944 --> 00:05:01,344 Speaker 4: where people are like, what's it like being in fame, 103 00:05:01,464 --> 00:05:02,744 Speaker 4: Like all of a sudden, she's like, no, I've been 104 00:05:02,784 --> 00:05:04,264 Speaker 4: doing this for a really long time. 105 00:05:04,784 --> 00:05:08,424 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. People thinking that she became famous from 106 00:05:08,424 --> 00:05:09,784 Speaker 3: a rose It's like, no, she had it for a 107 00:05:09,784 --> 00:05:12,704 Speaker 3: while there. So she did target a few celebrities Timothy 108 00:05:12,784 --> 00:05:15,984 Speaker 3: CHALOMEAI got a few hits in there, which fair calls. 109 00:05:15,984 --> 00:05:18,064 Speaker 3: She made fun of his facial hair, and then she 110 00:05:18,104 --> 00:05:19,904 Speaker 3: also made fun of his name, which is, you know, 111 00:05:19,984 --> 00:05:21,664 Speaker 3: a fun thing we would like to take part in. 112 00:05:21,904 --> 00:05:23,944 Speaker 3: But my favorite moment of that is that she said 113 00:05:23,944 --> 00:05:26,064 Speaker 3: his name sounded like something that Adam Sandler would say 114 00:05:26,064 --> 00:05:28,304 Speaker 3: in a movie, you know, his very trademark voice. And 115 00:05:28,344 --> 00:05:30,344 Speaker 3: then she threw to Adam Sandler and he did it. 116 00:05:30,424 --> 00:05:31,344 Speaker 4: Taylor's here at Sanla. 117 00:05:31,424 --> 00:05:34,584 Speaker 3: Can I get a shallow bay yomy? 118 00:05:35,464 --> 00:05:37,304 Speaker 4: You do love Adam Sandler, don't we all? 119 00:05:37,584 --> 00:05:37,824 Speaker 3: Yes? 120 00:05:37,864 --> 00:05:38,104 Speaker 4: We do. 121 00:05:39,224 --> 00:05:42,224 Speaker 3: She also made a joke about Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco. 122 00:05:42,304 --> 00:05:44,064 Speaker 3: Did you hear that bit where she was like, Selena 123 00:05:44,104 --> 00:05:46,064 Speaker 3: Gomez is here because she's nominated for a movie and 124 00:05:46,104 --> 00:05:47,904 Speaker 3: a TV show. It's big night for her. And Benny 125 00:05:47,944 --> 00:05:49,904 Speaker 3: Blanco's here because a genie granted his wish. 126 00:05:50,104 --> 00:05:52,624 Speaker 4: That poor guys, I think it's fine. 127 00:05:52,704 --> 00:05:54,384 Speaker 3: He leaned. Do you see how he just leaned over 128 00:05:54,424 --> 00:05:56,424 Speaker 3: and kissed Selena Gomez's shoulder? And I was like, that's 129 00:05:56,504 --> 00:05:59,184 Speaker 3: quite cute. I guess it was cute. I think her 130 00:05:59,224 --> 00:06:02,144 Speaker 3: Stanley Tucci jokes she made two different Stanley Tucci jokes 131 00:06:02,144 --> 00:06:05,224 Speaker 3: and she I forgot about that, but yeah, throughout the 132 00:06:05,344 --> 00:06:07,624 Speaker 3: night and neither of them landed. I think as he 133 00:06:07,664 --> 00:06:09,704 Speaker 3: didn't really laugh, he kind of gave that. But also 134 00:06:09,864 --> 00:06:13,224 Speaker 3: I've never seen Stanley Tucci like break down laughter at 135 00:06:13,264 --> 00:06:15,624 Speaker 3: an award show, Like he has that kind of ry smile, 136 00:06:15,664 --> 00:06:16,184 Speaker 3: and he did that. 137 00:06:16,304 --> 00:06:19,064 Speaker 4: It's busy with this cookbook promo. Yeah, thing's going on. 138 00:06:19,144 --> 00:06:20,224 Speaker 4: He doesn't have time to laugh. 139 00:06:20,384 --> 00:06:22,624 Speaker 3: I felt personally offended when she was doing some wicked 140 00:06:22,744 --> 00:06:25,064 Speaker 3: jokes and she's like, oh, I loved a Wicked I 141 00:06:25,064 --> 00:06:26,744 Speaker 3: didn't know about it till this year because I had 142 00:06:26,744 --> 00:06:27,744 Speaker 3: friends in high school. 143 00:06:28,904 --> 00:06:32,304 Speaker 4: I immediately sent me that and I was like, I 144 00:06:32,344 --> 00:06:34,984 Speaker 4: had friends in high school. I guess I wish they 145 00:06:35,064 --> 00:06:37,064 Speaker 4: panned to the Wicked table when she made that joke. 146 00:06:37,104 --> 00:06:38,864 Speaker 4: They did it, Yeah, it would have been really funny. 147 00:06:38,944 --> 00:06:40,944 Speaker 3: She also made a holding space joke was a fine 148 00:06:40,944 --> 00:06:43,224 Speaker 3: because she was like, I'm really nervous, Ariana, hold my finger, 149 00:06:43,264 --> 00:06:45,184 Speaker 3: and then Ariana leaned out, which is quite cute, and 150 00:06:45,184 --> 00:06:47,184 Speaker 3: like leaned out to hold her finger, and then Cynthia 151 00:06:47,264 --> 00:06:49,504 Speaker 3: Revo put her hand in so she could hold her finger, 152 00:06:49,584 --> 00:06:52,824 Speaker 3: and it was we love a little viral moment. Yeah, overall, 153 00:06:52,984 --> 00:06:54,864 Speaker 3: but I think like that's almost how you'd want to 154 00:06:54,864 --> 00:06:57,464 Speaker 3: come out of an award show. Like, yes, there was 155 00:06:57,464 --> 00:07:00,104 Speaker 3: no huge viral moment from her monologue, but there's no 156 00:07:00,184 --> 00:07:03,384 Speaker 3: hate or backlash either, And a lot of publications, a 157 00:07:03,424 --> 00:07:06,224 Speaker 3: lot of more of the trade award show publications have 158 00:07:06,344 --> 00:07:09,264 Speaker 3: written really positive reviews about her, and so that she 159 00:07:09,544 --> 00:07:11,584 Speaker 3: smashed it. So that's all you can ask for. 160 00:07:11,664 --> 00:07:13,904 Speaker 4: That's all you can ask for next year. I want Amy, 161 00:07:13,944 --> 00:07:14,984 Speaker 4: Polo and t Fe back. 162 00:07:15,064 --> 00:07:16,424 Speaker 3: They said they're never going to do it again. 163 00:07:16,424 --> 00:07:17,464 Speaker 4: You have them do it please. 164 00:07:19,944 --> 00:07:21,864 Speaker 3: Moving on to the big winners of the night. What 165 00:07:21,984 --> 00:07:24,584 Speaker 3: was interesting about this Golden Globes is that, as we 166 00:07:24,584 --> 00:07:26,904 Speaker 3: were saying when we had that very emotional episode where 167 00:07:26,904 --> 00:07:29,544 Speaker 3: we talked about the nominations, a lot of the categories 168 00:07:29,584 --> 00:07:32,544 Speaker 3: were very tight. So there were some surprises, and actually 169 00:07:32,624 --> 00:07:36,024 Speaker 3: I was surprised with how the overall awards were handed 170 00:07:36,024 --> 00:07:37,904 Speaker 3: out and who were shut out. So we had some 171 00:07:37,944 --> 00:07:41,104 Speaker 3: big winners in the TV categories. Shogun one of the 172 00:07:41,104 --> 00:07:43,464 Speaker 3: most Golden Globes, which I think is not surprising coming 173 00:07:43,504 --> 00:07:46,504 Speaker 3: off the Emmys and how critically acclaimed that show is Me. 174 00:07:47,264 --> 00:07:50,864 Speaker 3: So they had four overall wins, including three individual acting wins, 175 00:07:50,904 --> 00:07:54,344 Speaker 3: which was really amazing. Over in movies, this is where 176 00:07:54,384 --> 00:07:57,744 Speaker 3: things got really interesting. So the two big winners of 177 00:07:57,784 --> 00:08:00,784 Speaker 3: the night were The Brutalist, which I have now decided 178 00:08:00,864 --> 00:08:02,864 Speaker 3: is definitely going to win Best Picture of the Oscars. 179 00:08:03,344 --> 00:08:05,424 Speaker 3: It just as you see the type of people who 180 00:08:05,424 --> 00:08:07,224 Speaker 3: were I mean, obviously there's not a huge amount of 181 00:08:07,344 --> 00:08:10,904 Speaker 3: voting crossover with the Golden Globes and the os You'd 182 00:08:10,944 --> 00:08:12,584 Speaker 3: have to look more closely at the SAgs to see 183 00:08:12,624 --> 00:08:15,144 Speaker 3: how the Oscar voters which side they're going to go with. 184 00:08:15,464 --> 00:08:17,344 Speaker 3: But the more I hear about what people in the 185 00:08:17,344 --> 00:08:19,384 Speaker 3: industry are saying about the Brewers, it does seem like 186 00:08:19,424 --> 00:08:21,784 Speaker 3: it's going to be the big winner. Although at this 187 00:08:21,824 --> 00:08:25,464 Speaker 3: particular awards show, Amelia Perez was the big winner of 188 00:08:25,504 --> 00:08:29,224 Speaker 3: the night. It won four awards, including the award for 189 00:08:29,344 --> 00:08:32,864 Speaker 3: Best Motion Picture Musical or Comedy. It also won some 190 00:08:32,944 --> 00:08:36,304 Speaker 3: acting awards, most notably for Zobe Saldana, who was one 191 00:08:36,344 --> 00:08:38,384 Speaker 3: best Away. That was her first win, and she was 192 00:08:38,544 --> 00:08:40,224 Speaker 3: in the first awardhander out of the night, which was 193 00:08:40,264 --> 00:08:42,544 Speaker 3: such a nice way to start. She was so emotional, 194 00:08:42,864 --> 00:08:44,704 Speaker 3: she was sobbing when they called her name, she was 195 00:08:44,744 --> 00:08:47,984 Speaker 3: crying on stage. She was so thankful, and I think 196 00:08:47,984 --> 00:08:50,784 Speaker 3: it was really interesting because she's had this huge, huge 197 00:08:50,824 --> 00:08:54,464 Speaker 3: blockbuster career like Avatar and then Guardians of their Galaxy, 198 00:08:54,504 --> 00:08:57,264 Speaker 3: among other things. But she's been in huge blockbusters, so 199 00:08:57,704 --> 00:09:00,544 Speaker 3: she's a very bankable actress and she's had huge success. 200 00:09:01,064 --> 00:09:03,104 Speaker 3: But it's so interesting how you could kind of tell 201 00:09:03,144 --> 00:09:05,824 Speaker 3: from her speech that she sees success as winning this 202 00:09:05,904 --> 00:09:08,584 Speaker 3: award for a kind of smaller film that's probably also 203 00:09:08,584 --> 00:09:09,584 Speaker 3: going to win a lot of Oscars. 204 00:09:09,744 --> 00:09:12,264 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I haven't watched Amelia Perez, but I 205 00:09:12,304 --> 00:09:15,224 Speaker 4: am so so excited. I think we also a lot 206 00:09:15,224 --> 00:09:17,584 Speaker 4: of people predicted that Amelia Perez would win, yeah, a 207 00:09:17,624 --> 00:09:20,264 Speaker 4: lot of the awards, and it just makes everyone really 208 00:09:20,304 --> 00:09:22,984 Speaker 4: excited to watch it. Because when I first saw the trailer, 209 00:09:23,624 --> 00:09:25,344 Speaker 4: I was like, this is not for me, Like I'm 210 00:09:25,464 --> 00:09:27,824 Speaker 4: very confused on what's going on, Like it's horror, but 211 00:09:27,984 --> 00:09:31,984 Speaker 4: also singing yes, the only thing I know in that 212 00:09:32,104 --> 00:09:34,624 Speaker 4: genre is Rocky horror Picture Show. Yeah, that was also 213 00:09:34,704 --> 00:09:36,024 Speaker 4: very terrib very different from that. 214 00:09:36,104 --> 00:09:38,504 Speaker 3: And Yeah, there has been a bit of controversy around 215 00:09:38,584 --> 00:09:41,944 Speaker 3: the movie in terms of its portrayal of different ethnicities. 216 00:09:42,144 --> 00:09:44,904 Speaker 3: Selena Gomez, who was also nominated in that category, took 217 00:09:44,904 --> 00:09:46,584 Speaker 3: a bit of a hit with people saying her accent 218 00:09:46,704 --> 00:09:49,384 Speaker 3: was bad. But there's been so many positive stories to 219 00:09:49,424 --> 00:09:51,984 Speaker 3: come out of as well, most notably that the film 220 00:09:52,104 --> 00:09:57,464 Speaker 3: star Karla Sophia Gascon is the first openly transactress to 221 00:09:57,544 --> 00:10:00,024 Speaker 3: be nominated for Best Female Actor in a Motion Picture 222 00:10:00,184 --> 00:10:02,864 Speaker 3: Musical or Comedy. And I thought her speech when the 223 00:10:02,944 --> 00:10:07,544 Speaker 3: movie won was really beautiful because she said that she 224 00:10:07,584 --> 00:10:09,304 Speaker 3: had a message to everyone and she said light will 225 00:10:09,344 --> 00:10:11,264 Speaker 3: always win over darkness and just went on to say 226 00:10:11,264 --> 00:10:13,944 Speaker 3: this really beautiful speech, the. 227 00:10:13,944 --> 00:10:20,864 Speaker 1: Light always wins our darkness. You can and maybe put 228 00:10:21,024 --> 00:10:25,744 Speaker 1: us in jail, you can beat us up, and you 229 00:10:25,904 --> 00:10:32,744 Speaker 1: never can take away our soul, our assistance or the identity. 230 00:10:33,744 --> 00:10:37,984 Speaker 1: And I want to say to you radios voice and 231 00:10:38,024 --> 00:10:44,664 Speaker 1: say I won, I am who I am now who 232 00:10:44,704 --> 00:10:45,184 Speaker 1: you want? 233 00:10:45,704 --> 00:10:48,304 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, which I thought was a really 234 00:10:48,384 --> 00:10:49,944 Speaker 3: nice moment from the nine Yude. 235 00:10:49,944 --> 00:10:52,784 Speaker 4: I love moments like that. I actually got quite emotional 236 00:10:52,944 --> 00:10:57,304 Speaker 4: during one other speech. It wasn't an emotional speech at all. 237 00:10:57,744 --> 00:11:01,664 Speaker 4: It was, of course, another Shogun win. Yes, Haddanobu Asanu. 238 00:11:01,864 --> 00:11:05,224 Speaker 4: He won Best Supporting Actor for Shogun. This is what 239 00:11:05,224 --> 00:11:06,624 Speaker 4: he said when he walked up on stage. 240 00:11:07,104 --> 00:11:09,944 Speaker 3: Wow, so maybe you don't know me. 241 00:11:10,864 --> 00:11:15,264 Speaker 4: So I'm an actor from Japan and my name is 242 00:11:15,624 --> 00:11:20,184 Speaker 4: about Sin whoa. 243 00:11:20,784 --> 00:11:24,704 Speaker 3: They're just so much, just so much. Oh, Emily, is 244 00:11:24,704 --> 00:11:26,744 Speaker 3: that a tear in your eye? She's guys, she's got 245 00:11:26,744 --> 00:11:27,864 Speaker 3: a tear in her eye right now. 246 00:11:27,904 --> 00:11:33,424 Speaker 4: I am getting my favorite. So besides the point, I 247 00:11:33,464 --> 00:11:37,264 Speaker 4: got so emotional because just the humbleness in his voice 248 00:11:37,464 --> 00:11:40,784 Speaker 4: of being in this I guess like massive Western country 249 00:11:40,824 --> 00:11:43,944 Speaker 4: with like famous people that he probably knows everyone's name. 250 00:11:44,384 --> 00:11:48,144 Speaker 4: And he just coming up on stage introducing himself, saying, 251 00:11:48,184 --> 00:11:49,904 Speaker 4: you don't know me, this is my name, and I'm like, 252 00:11:49,904 --> 00:11:52,024 Speaker 4: of course they all know you, Yeah, they know you. 253 00:11:52,304 --> 00:11:53,904 Speaker 4: And then he said that he had to like go 254 00:11:53,984 --> 00:11:56,424 Speaker 4: home that night, fly back to Tokyo to film again 255 00:11:56,504 --> 00:12:00,024 Speaker 4: the next morning, and he was just so so happy 256 00:12:00,104 --> 00:12:01,984 Speaker 4: to be there and he was just like yelling. He 257 00:12:02,064 --> 00:12:04,824 Speaker 4: was just so excited, and he said this is the best, 258 00:12:04,904 --> 00:12:07,504 Speaker 4: Like he was so happy. And I think it just 259 00:12:07,544 --> 00:12:10,784 Speaker 4: shows like similar to what you said before that like 260 00:12:11,024 --> 00:12:13,784 Speaker 4: zoways Aldana, like this is so important to some of them, 261 00:12:13,944 --> 00:12:17,064 Speaker 4: like so important, and for others it's just like another award. Yeah, 262 00:12:17,104 --> 00:12:19,304 Speaker 4: and when you get to see like how much this 263 00:12:19,384 --> 00:12:21,984 Speaker 4: award means to some of them, it just makes it 264 00:12:22,024 --> 00:12:23,624 Speaker 4: all worth it. Like watching that whole thing, I was like, 265 00:12:23,624 --> 00:12:24,624 Speaker 4: I'm so glad he won. 266 00:12:25,064 --> 00:12:26,504 Speaker 3: So they were the big wins for the night. And 267 00:12:26,504 --> 00:12:28,544 Speaker 3: now we have to talk about some of the TV 268 00:12:28,664 --> 00:12:32,744 Speaker 3: shows and movies that were shut out, most notably Anora, 269 00:12:33,304 --> 00:12:35,344 Speaker 3: one of our favorite I name that was my favorite 270 00:12:35,384 --> 00:12:37,944 Speaker 3: film of twenty twenty four. Yeah, that was really quite 271 00:12:37,944 --> 00:12:41,264 Speaker 3: shocking for me. So it was the night's biggest, not loser, 272 00:12:41,344 --> 00:12:43,584 Speaker 3: but the night's biggest I guess shut out because it 273 00:12:43,664 --> 00:12:48,144 Speaker 3: had five nominations and one zero categories. Most surprise prising up, Yes, 274 00:12:48,224 --> 00:12:50,824 Speaker 3: most surprising snub is a much nicer way to put it. 275 00:12:51,184 --> 00:12:52,984 Speaker 3: And I had really thought that was going to be 276 00:12:53,104 --> 00:12:55,344 Speaker 3: the big contender for award season, and look, maybe it 277 00:12:55,424 --> 00:12:58,304 Speaker 3: still will. Because the Golden Globes is voted for by 278 00:12:58,344 --> 00:13:01,104 Speaker 3: the Hollywood Foreign Press Association and obviously things like the 279 00:13:01,184 --> 00:13:04,304 Speaker 3: SAgs and mostly the Oscars, it's people in your category, 280 00:13:04,384 --> 00:13:06,784 Speaker 3: so it's other actors voting for actors, it's directors voting 281 00:13:06,784 --> 00:13:09,824 Speaker 3: for directors, so they sometimes skewed. They're just a bit different. 282 00:13:10,784 --> 00:13:13,624 Speaker 4: What do you mean, like, if you're voting within like 283 00:13:13,664 --> 00:13:15,504 Speaker 4: your category, wouldn't you just vote for yourself? 284 00:13:15,784 --> 00:13:17,824 Speaker 3: No, but there's hundreds of people in each one, and 285 00:13:17,864 --> 00:13:19,704 Speaker 3: you could have directed a movie, you know, like once 286 00:13:19,704 --> 00:13:22,104 Speaker 3: you're in the Academy, you're in the Academy. So you 287 00:13:22,144 --> 00:13:24,224 Speaker 3: could have not directed a movie for years, but you're 288 00:13:24,224 --> 00:13:25,904 Speaker 3: still in the Academy, you know what I mean? 289 00:13:26,224 --> 00:13:28,384 Speaker 4: Oh, I want those votes to feel like so badly. 290 00:13:28,584 --> 00:13:30,544 Speaker 3: Well, maybe have to do it how the voting system 291 00:13:30,544 --> 00:13:33,544 Speaker 3: works for each awards show coming up. So yeah, it 292 00:13:33,624 --> 00:13:36,304 Speaker 3: might still win a whole bunch of other awards, and 293 00:13:36,344 --> 00:13:38,304 Speaker 3: it has one a few kind of smaller ones going out. 294 00:13:38,304 --> 00:13:41,064 Speaker 3: But I thought that was quite interesting. Also Wicked, because 295 00:13:41,064 --> 00:13:44,304 Speaker 3: for me and Wicked the big one. No, that award 296 00:13:44,344 --> 00:13:46,944 Speaker 3: is very controversial and most people don't even think this 297 00:13:47,024 --> 00:13:50,624 Speaker 3: is the second time. Okay, so I did think Wicked 298 00:13:50,664 --> 00:13:52,104 Speaker 3: was going to be a big winner of the night, 299 00:13:52,304 --> 00:13:55,504 Speaker 3: even potentially even just for Ariana Grande winning Best Supporting. 300 00:13:55,104 --> 00:13:58,024 Speaker 4: Industry Award that happened because of Barbie. 301 00:13:58,104 --> 00:13:58,424 Speaker 1: Yes. 302 00:13:58,504 --> 00:14:01,464 Speaker 3: Oh so for the last couple of years, a lot 303 00:14:01,504 --> 00:14:04,144 Speaker 3: of different award shows have been trying to find a 304 00:14:04,184 --> 00:14:07,624 Speaker 3: way to honor movies that make a lot of money 305 00:14:07,624 --> 00:14:09,584 Speaker 3: at the box office because they're the movies that often 306 00:14:09,624 --> 00:14:12,504 Speaker 3: people are watching, and often the award show circuit ones 307 00:14:12,784 --> 00:14:15,504 Speaker 3: are very small, so they're having issues with people tuning 308 00:14:15,544 --> 00:14:17,184 Speaker 3: into award shows to actually watch. 309 00:14:17,224 --> 00:14:20,424 Speaker 4: We don't know your like Artsy movie, Yeah, give us Barbie, 310 00:14:20,464 --> 00:14:21,184 Speaker 4: give us Wicked. 311 00:14:21,304 --> 00:14:24,064 Speaker 3: But they don't want to give those movies Best Picture 312 00:14:24,104 --> 00:14:26,144 Speaker 3: or anything like that because it kind of crosses over 313 00:14:26,184 --> 00:14:27,944 Speaker 3: what they think is a proper film. Oh, I would 314 00:14:27,984 --> 00:14:30,664 Speaker 3: argue though Wicked sits a bit outside that category. These 315 00:14:30,704 --> 00:14:32,944 Speaker 3: kind of awards were mostly made for like a Marvel 316 00:14:32,984 --> 00:14:35,824 Speaker 3: type movie. So a few years ago, the Oscars announced 317 00:14:35,864 --> 00:14:37,704 Speaker 3: they were going to do like a most Popular Movie 318 00:14:37,704 --> 00:14:39,184 Speaker 3: award and it was meant to be something like this 319 00:14:39,344 --> 00:14:41,904 Speaker 3: the box Office Achievement, but they had no plan of 320 00:14:41,904 --> 00:14:43,344 Speaker 3: how they were actually going to do it. And it's 321 00:14:43,384 --> 00:14:46,824 Speaker 3: because people wanted Marvel movies in the mix. But they 322 00:14:46,824 --> 00:14:49,744 Speaker 3: were like, we are absolutely not giving Oscars to Marvel movies, 323 00:14:49,784 --> 00:14:51,024 Speaker 3: so like, maybe we can give it to you for 324 00:14:51,104 --> 00:14:53,984 Speaker 3: like this category, and then they quickly had to pull 325 00:14:53,984 --> 00:14:55,624 Speaker 3: the category and say we're not doing that anymore. Like 326 00:14:55,664 --> 00:14:58,144 Speaker 3: the Oscars had to backtrack because they hadn't actually figured 327 00:14:58,144 --> 00:14:58,984 Speaker 3: out how to do it? 328 00:14:59,184 --> 00:14:59,704 Speaker 4: Oh god. 329 00:14:59,824 --> 00:15:01,864 Speaker 3: And so last year the Golden Globes were like, well, 330 00:15:01,864 --> 00:15:04,384 Speaker 3: we'll give an award for cinematic box office achievements, So 331 00:15:04,424 --> 00:15:06,624 Speaker 3: the movie that made the most money, and that was 332 00:15:06,664 --> 00:15:09,464 Speaker 3: the only award that Barbie won, even though it went 333 00:15:09,504 --> 00:15:11,904 Speaker 3: on to get like quite a few Oscar nominations. And 334 00:15:11,984 --> 00:15:15,784 Speaker 3: so this year Wicked won that. And it's controversial because 335 00:15:15,864 --> 00:15:17,904 Speaker 3: a lot of people think that award show should be 336 00:15:18,184 --> 00:15:20,824 Speaker 3: not based on because like the money is the reward, 337 00:15:20,824 --> 00:15:22,144 Speaker 3: Like you made a lot of money, you don't need 338 00:15:22,184 --> 00:15:24,984 Speaker 3: to then get an award for making money. The award 339 00:15:25,024 --> 00:15:27,664 Speaker 3: should be for like best performance. It should be more artistic. 340 00:15:27,704 --> 00:15:29,704 Speaker 3: It should be who did this, like you can't count on? 341 00:15:29,824 --> 00:15:33,184 Speaker 3: So Wicked did win that award, and yeah, it's a 342 00:15:33,184 --> 00:15:34,064 Speaker 3: controversial one. 343 00:15:34,184 --> 00:15:36,744 Speaker 4: It is a controversial one. But it wasn't. Ariana Grande 344 00:15:36,904 --> 00:15:38,984 Speaker 4: and cynth Theory were also nominated. 345 00:15:39,024 --> 00:15:40,784 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they were nominated. That's what I thought. I 346 00:15:40,824 --> 00:15:42,744 Speaker 3: thought they. I thought Wicked would take out some acting 347 00:15:42,784 --> 00:15:46,504 Speaker 3: categories and it didn't take anything, just the box office award. 348 00:15:46,944 --> 00:15:50,024 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean the issue is is I remember when 349 00:15:50,064 --> 00:15:52,824 Speaker 4: we were reading out the list of nominations, like I 350 00:15:52,904 --> 00:15:55,424 Speaker 4: was happy if anyone nominated would win. Yea, because they 351 00:15:55,424 --> 00:15:58,344 Speaker 4: were so good and so competitive. But they do have 352 00:15:58,384 --> 00:16:00,464 Speaker 4: wicked do have another year? Like you said last time. 353 00:16:00,344 --> 00:16:02,144 Speaker 3: Well, I just wonder if people were holding over their 354 00:16:02,224 --> 00:16:04,304 Speaker 3: votes knowing the next movie is coming out. But it 355 00:16:04,344 --> 00:16:06,424 Speaker 3: also seems like a lot of people make too strategic 356 00:16:06,424 --> 00:16:11,064 Speaker 3: thinking for the Hollywood foreg in TV Land, Only Murders 357 00:16:11,104 --> 00:16:13,184 Speaker 3: in the Building was that, how did you phrase. 358 00:16:12,944 --> 00:16:16,504 Speaker 4: It only murd Well, how did I phrase it. 359 00:16:16,424 --> 00:16:18,264 Speaker 3: As the biggest snub of the night. 360 00:16:18,304 --> 00:16:20,384 Speaker 4: I guess the most surprising snub. 361 00:16:20,544 --> 00:16:22,304 Speaker 3: Yes, so the person that's the nice story we were 362 00:16:22,344 --> 00:16:24,104 Speaker 3: saying it not the biggest loser of the night. So 363 00:16:24,264 --> 00:16:26,704 Speaker 3: Only Murders in the Building had four nominations, didn't win 364 00:16:26,704 --> 00:16:29,424 Speaker 3: for any categories. The other one I was quite interested 365 00:16:29,424 --> 00:16:32,024 Speaker 3: in was that nobody wants this. Didn't take it anything? 366 00:16:32,544 --> 00:16:33,624 Speaker 4: You found that surprising? 367 00:16:33,904 --> 00:16:35,784 Speaker 3: Well, no, because, as we said going into it, I 368 00:16:35,784 --> 00:16:38,464 Speaker 3: didn't think they should win any of the big acting awards. 369 00:16:38,504 --> 00:16:40,424 Speaker 3: But I thought, you know, I just thought it was 370 00:16:40,464 --> 00:16:44,104 Speaker 3: such a cultural moment and this show itself was so 371 00:16:44,144 --> 00:16:46,184 Speaker 3: great that I was hoping it might win, like, you know, 372 00:16:46,224 --> 00:16:49,184 Speaker 3: Best Comedy or something like that. Although Hacks one and 373 00:16:49,264 --> 00:16:51,624 Speaker 3: you know how I feel that hat I freaking love 374 00:16:51,664 --> 00:16:56,104 Speaker 3: hacks the Bear or literally if the I can't even 375 00:16:56,144 --> 00:16:57,864 Speaker 3: talk about it. If the Bear had one, I would 376 00:16:57,864 --> 00:16:59,584 Speaker 3: because I was watching here in the office after recorded 377 00:16:59,624 --> 00:17:01,864 Speaker 3: yesterday's pot I would have thrown my laptop out a window. 378 00:17:01,904 --> 00:17:03,544 Speaker 3: And we're on the eighteenth floor, so that thing would 379 00:17:03,544 --> 00:17:04,144 Speaker 3: have killed someone. 380 00:17:04,224 --> 00:17:05,464 Speaker 4: Yeah, ruin someone's life. 381 00:17:05,504 --> 00:17:07,344 Speaker 3: But I was so happy that hacks one because eighty 382 00:17:07,384 --> 00:17:09,824 Speaker 3: is one of the best shows on TV. But they 383 00:17:09,824 --> 00:17:13,224 Speaker 3: also were like the producers were like, yeah, this is great. 384 00:17:13,264 --> 00:17:15,344 Speaker 3: We've got a film at six am tomorrow, so like, 385 00:17:15,344 --> 00:17:18,104 Speaker 3: we're not drinking. No one give Jean Smartest a shot. 386 00:17:18,144 --> 00:17:20,744 Speaker 3: I'm talking to you, Kate Winslet, and everyone was like, 387 00:17:20,784 --> 00:17:23,024 Speaker 3: bring back the old Golden Globes because people used to 388 00:17:23,104 --> 00:17:24,584 Speaker 3: get so no one doesn't. 389 00:17:24,664 --> 00:17:26,664 Speaker 4: Go had I was expect everybody. 390 00:17:26,544 --> 00:17:28,944 Speaker 3: Again not the word promoting drinking. But the whole point 391 00:17:28,984 --> 00:17:31,344 Speaker 3: of the Golden Globes was that it was a ridiculous 392 00:17:31,344 --> 00:17:34,504 Speaker 3: award ceremony by the whole Hollywood foreign press who somehow 393 00:17:34,864 --> 00:17:37,664 Speaker 3: set up this big award show that became this huge 394 00:17:37,664 --> 00:17:39,784 Speaker 3: thing to rival like the SAgs and the Emmies and 395 00:17:39,824 --> 00:17:42,624 Speaker 3: the Oscars, with no, kind of like actual you know, 396 00:17:42,824 --> 00:17:46,344 Speaker 3: like yeah, like substance behind it. But it just became 397 00:17:46,384 --> 00:17:48,504 Speaker 3: this huge thing because it brought TV in film together. 398 00:17:48,584 --> 00:17:50,024 Speaker 3: They were like, let's just give this a go, and 399 00:17:50,064 --> 00:17:52,984 Speaker 3: everyone's at a round table and everyone's getting lit. Like 400 00:17:52,984 --> 00:17:54,824 Speaker 3: people used to be so drunk for it even started, 401 00:17:54,904 --> 00:17:57,584 Speaker 3: so you have all these people just do crazy speeches, 402 00:17:57,624 --> 00:18:01,384 Speaker 3: crazy audience bits. It was so unpredictable, and this year 403 00:18:01,624 --> 00:18:02,464 Speaker 3: it felt quite safe. 404 00:18:02,464 --> 00:18:04,744 Speaker 4: It felt like everyone like drank on the carpet and 405 00:18:04,784 --> 00:18:06,824 Speaker 4: then just stop when they went in because the carpet 406 00:18:06,864 --> 00:18:09,344 Speaker 4: was way more chaotic than Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, what 407 00:18:09,384 --> 00:18:11,024 Speaker 4: was your other big winner of that night? Okay, my 408 00:18:11,104 --> 00:18:13,664 Speaker 4: other big winner of the night was Demi Moore. 409 00:18:13,864 --> 00:18:15,504 Speaker 3: Oh yes, she won for. 410 00:18:15,504 --> 00:18:19,104 Speaker 4: Best Actress in a Motion Picture, which was Substance. Her 411 00:18:19,104 --> 00:18:22,864 Speaker 4: speech was so beautiful and quite surprising because I don't 412 00:18:22,904 --> 00:18:25,904 Speaker 4: know much about her career. I just know that she's 413 00:18:25,984 --> 00:18:29,384 Speaker 4: a name that everyone knows, especially my parents' generation. She's 414 00:18:29,424 --> 00:18:31,944 Speaker 4: sixty two years old, and she said this was her 415 00:18:31,984 --> 00:18:33,704 Speaker 4: first time winning anything. 416 00:18:33,944 --> 00:18:35,424 Speaker 3: I'm just in shock right now. 417 00:18:36,104 --> 00:18:38,864 Speaker 6: I've been doing this a long time, like over forty 418 00:18:38,904 --> 00:18:42,384 Speaker 6: five years, and this is the first time I've ever 419 00:18:42,464 --> 00:18:48,304 Speaker 6: won anything as an actor. And I'm just so humbled 420 00:18:48,384 --> 00:18:51,544 Speaker 6: and so grateful, And I'll just leave you with one 421 00:18:51,624 --> 00:18:54,824 Speaker 6: thing that I think this movie is imparting is in 422 00:18:54,864 --> 00:18:58,224 Speaker 6: those moments when we don't think we're smart enough or 423 00:18:58,264 --> 00:19:02,344 Speaker 6: pretty enough, we're skinny enough, or successful enough, or basically. 424 00:19:01,984 --> 00:19:05,184 Speaker 3: Just not enough. I had a woman say to me, 425 00:19:06,304 --> 00:19:08,064 Speaker 3: just know you will. 426 00:19:07,864 --> 00:19:09,184 Speaker 4: Never be enough. 427 00:19:10,464 --> 00:19:12,544 Speaker 6: You can know the value of your worth if you 428 00:19:12,744 --> 00:19:13,344 Speaker 6: just put. 429 00:19:13,184 --> 00:19:14,344 Speaker 3: Down the measuring stick. 430 00:19:14,624 --> 00:19:17,224 Speaker 4: And she said that like she was told that she 431 00:19:17,304 --> 00:19:19,824 Speaker 4: was gonna have to be a popcorn No, she was 432 00:19:19,864 --> 00:19:21,504 Speaker 4: a popcorn actor. I don't know what that means. 433 00:19:21,864 --> 00:19:25,184 Speaker 3: It means someone who could only do big, blockbuster movies. 434 00:19:25,224 --> 00:19:27,784 Speaker 3: So like a popcorn movie is like a like going 435 00:19:27,824 --> 00:19:30,264 Speaker 3: to see a Marvel movie, like a fun kind of 436 00:19:30,584 --> 00:19:33,064 Speaker 3: like a fun movie that makes money in the box office, 437 00:19:33,104 --> 00:19:35,344 Speaker 3: but it's not for real actors. It's not prestigious, it 438 00:19:35,384 --> 00:19:36,344 Speaker 3: doesn't win awards. 439 00:19:36,544 --> 00:19:39,264 Speaker 4: It just gave me a whole new appreciation of her 440 00:19:39,504 --> 00:19:42,264 Speaker 4: doing substance, because that would have been such a brave 441 00:19:42,424 --> 00:19:45,304 Speaker 4: thing to actually put your name on. And she did it, 442 00:19:45,344 --> 00:19:48,904 Speaker 4: and she won, and her speech was amazing, And then 443 00:19:48,944 --> 00:19:51,384 Speaker 4: I was following all of her kids on Instagram. Yeah, 444 00:19:51,384 --> 00:19:53,944 Speaker 4: they were like obsess like it just felt like a 445 00:19:53,984 --> 00:19:57,224 Speaker 4: really great moment to watch your mum do something like that. 446 00:19:57,304 --> 00:19:58,904 Speaker 3: It was so interesting that I felt there was a 447 00:19:58,944 --> 00:20:02,544 Speaker 3: real correlation between Demi Moore's win and Zoe Seldana's win 448 00:20:02,864 --> 00:20:05,704 Speaker 3: because they're both actresses who have been in the industry 449 00:20:05,744 --> 00:20:09,064 Speaker 3: for decades. They've both been in these huge blockbuster movies, 450 00:20:09,104 --> 00:20:12,104 Speaker 3: and they'll both overcome with a motion for being recognized 451 00:20:12,144 --> 00:20:14,984 Speaker 3: for their talent instead of their ability to like to 452 00:20:15,064 --> 00:20:17,864 Speaker 3: make money in like a crowd pleasing movie, which I 453 00:20:17,904 --> 00:20:20,424 Speaker 3: thought was really sweet. But yeah, Demi in particular because 454 00:20:20,464 --> 00:20:22,784 Speaker 3: I've I guess I've been following her for such a 455 00:20:22,784 --> 00:20:24,584 Speaker 3: long time. But I also read her memoir when it 456 00:20:24,624 --> 00:20:27,504 Speaker 3: came out, and it's so interesting of her talking about 457 00:20:27,704 --> 00:20:30,904 Speaker 3: being pushed by studios into different movies that she might 458 00:20:30,944 --> 00:20:33,304 Speaker 3: not want to do, her being really passionate about acting 459 00:20:33,344 --> 00:20:35,664 Speaker 3: and not getting the role she wanted. When she was 460 00:20:35,664 --> 00:20:37,464 Speaker 3: married to Bruce Willis, so they got married on like 461 00:20:37,504 --> 00:20:39,984 Speaker 3: a sound stage and the studio officiated it. They were 462 00:20:40,024 --> 00:20:41,704 Speaker 3: obviously very in love and they had three kids and 463 00:20:41,744 --> 00:20:44,104 Speaker 3: they're still really close today. But they were very much 464 00:20:44,104 --> 00:20:48,464 Speaker 3: e merging of two celebrities, two celebrity brands, and then 465 00:20:48,464 --> 00:20:50,504 Speaker 3: when they were married, he was like, I want to 466 00:20:50,504 --> 00:20:53,184 Speaker 3: be the actor. I'm going to be the star of this, 467 00:20:53,304 --> 00:20:54,824 Speaker 3: like I need you to be the mom. And I 468 00:20:54,864 --> 00:20:56,984 Speaker 3: think that kind of and you know, there's a lot 469 00:20:56,984 --> 00:20:58,984 Speaker 3: of complexities to that because her family have told a 470 00:20:58,984 --> 00:21:02,064 Speaker 3: different story over the years and everything, and I just think, also, 471 00:21:02,184 --> 00:21:04,424 Speaker 3: she took such a hit with the Ashton Kutcher's stuff 472 00:21:04,944 --> 00:21:08,384 Speaker 3: and even when no, that woman has lived a life 473 00:21:08,424 --> 00:21:11,064 Speaker 3: like her memoir is so interesting, and even I think 474 00:21:11,064 --> 00:21:13,304 Speaker 3: when she she was like a huge star of the 475 00:21:13,384 --> 00:21:16,424 Speaker 3: nineties and her first Golden Globe nomination was for Ghosts 476 00:21:16,664 --> 00:21:18,504 Speaker 3: again kind of seen as a bit of a silly 477 00:21:18,504 --> 00:21:20,304 Speaker 3: popcorn movie, but you know, she was in it. I 478 00:21:20,304 --> 00:21:23,384 Speaker 3: don't agree that's a great movie. But when she had 479 00:21:23,424 --> 00:21:25,944 Speaker 3: her big comeback in Charlie's Angels Full Throttle, do you 480 00:21:25,944 --> 00:21:28,584 Speaker 3: remember that, Yes, yes, that was like the comeback of 481 00:21:28,624 --> 00:21:31,104 Speaker 3: Demi Moore and everyone's like, she's back, But it was 482 00:21:31,184 --> 00:21:32,864 Speaker 3: all about her body. It was all about the amount 483 00:21:32,864 --> 00:21:35,344 Speaker 3: of plastic surgery that she had had done. It was 484 00:21:35,384 --> 00:21:38,264 Speaker 3: about how much she'd changed her body, how she'd worked out, 485 00:21:38,264 --> 00:21:40,664 Speaker 3: how she died it and she was really only celebrated 486 00:21:41,064 --> 00:21:43,304 Speaker 3: for her body as part of her comeback, which is 487 00:21:43,304 --> 00:21:45,584 Speaker 3: really interesting when you look at what the substance is about. 488 00:21:45,744 --> 00:21:48,344 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's also that like the whole Charlie's Angels 489 00:21:48,384 --> 00:21:51,904 Speaker 4: that was all about their bodies in Ena. So I'm 490 00:21:51,944 --> 00:21:56,624 Speaker 4: just happy for her. Yeah, it was really nice. So 491 00:21:56,704 --> 00:22:01,704 Speaker 4: something that I saw go completely viral on Twitter especially 492 00:22:02,064 --> 00:22:05,464 Speaker 4: was actually the day after, like this morning, a little 493 00:22:05,584 --> 00:22:09,344 Speaker 4: video of I love celebrities with phones, Like it justoked 494 00:22:09,544 --> 00:22:12,864 Speaker 4: my day, like celebrities to just film everything, like when 495 00:22:12,984 --> 00:22:16,424 Speaker 4: Keith Urban accidentally filmed Phoebe Bridges and yeah, I love 496 00:22:16,424 --> 00:22:18,744 Speaker 4: when celebrities is that stuff. So there was like a 497 00:22:18,784 --> 00:22:23,104 Speaker 4: bit of a camera moment on Kylie Jenner and Timothy Challamie. 498 00:22:23,104 --> 00:22:25,544 Speaker 4: I'm sure they had many cameras on them because she 499 00:22:25,784 --> 00:22:28,464 Speaker 4: famously didn't walk the carpet with the cameras. 500 00:22:28,024 --> 00:22:30,184 Speaker 3: Were on them all night. I had said people saying 501 00:22:30,184 --> 00:22:32,784 Speaker 3: that this is basically a Timothy and Kylie documentary, and 502 00:22:32,824 --> 00:22:34,664 Speaker 3: I feel like it was. I saw them enter that room, 503 00:22:34,704 --> 00:22:36,384 Speaker 3: I saw them holding hand, they had just like. 504 00:22:36,344 --> 00:22:39,664 Speaker 4: One life, Yeah, focused on them, and then like Elle 505 00:22:39,704 --> 00:22:40,944 Speaker 4: Fanning would come in and out. 506 00:22:41,184 --> 00:22:43,584 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Monica Barbara, who's also in the movie, was 507 00:22:43,624 --> 00:22:45,424 Speaker 3: there and like, Timothy's just like one of the girls 508 00:22:45,464 --> 00:22:46,944 Speaker 3: hanging out with. There's like the four of them were 509 00:22:46,944 --> 00:22:48,224 Speaker 3: like a little group all nights. 510 00:22:48,304 --> 00:22:50,144 Speaker 4: It was really sweet to watch, but I also did 511 00:22:50,224 --> 00:22:53,544 Speaker 4: feel like a perv. But there was this one moment 512 00:22:54,184 --> 00:22:58,504 Speaker 4: that was captured on camera and it's been going around 513 00:22:58,584 --> 00:23:02,584 Speaker 4: on the socials and it's gone completely viral. I've never 514 00:23:02,704 --> 00:23:05,944 Speaker 4: felt so bad for Kylie Jenner than I have. Oh really, 515 00:23:06,744 --> 00:23:09,544 Speaker 4: So what happened is Demi Moore did her big win. 516 00:23:09,744 --> 00:23:13,264 Speaker 4: She's walking around the Golden Globes tables like saying hi 517 00:23:13,344 --> 00:23:13,784 Speaker 4: to a friend. 518 00:23:13,864 --> 00:23:15,384 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's doing her winners. 519 00:23:15,104 --> 00:23:18,024 Speaker 4: Walk, doing a winner's walk. Everyone's congratulating her. So what 520 00:23:18,064 --> 00:23:19,784 Speaker 4: you do is the winner walks around and then the 521 00:23:19,784 --> 00:23:22,144 Speaker 4: people sitting go congrats. Yeah, and then she makes on. 522 00:23:22,504 --> 00:23:23,064 Speaker 3: So she did that. 523 00:23:23,144 --> 00:23:25,264 Speaker 4: She came to that table and the seating was like 524 00:23:25,424 --> 00:23:28,344 Speaker 4: Timothy and in the middle was Kylie, and then next 525 00:23:28,344 --> 00:23:33,184 Speaker 4: to Kylie was Elle Fanning and to me came behind 526 00:23:33,304 --> 00:23:37,104 Speaker 4: Kylie to talk to el Fanning because they're friends. They 527 00:23:37,144 --> 00:23:39,944 Speaker 4: know each other. Yeah, and el Fanning's like, oh my god, 528 00:23:39,984 --> 00:23:42,064 Speaker 4: congrats for your win, and Demi it's like, thank you. 529 00:23:42,104 --> 00:23:44,104 Speaker 4: She's really long hair, so her long hair was kind 530 00:23:44,104 --> 00:23:47,024 Speaker 4: of covering Kylie as she was talking to Elle. Yeah, 531 00:23:47,064 --> 00:23:49,464 Speaker 4: and then you see Kylie pop out from behind me 532 00:23:49,584 --> 00:23:53,184 Speaker 4: and say congrats. Me didn't hear it. 533 00:23:53,864 --> 00:23:56,664 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen this going everywhere today and everyone being 534 00:23:56,704 --> 00:24:00,264 Speaker 3: like Demi Moore shunned Kylie Dennimore hates Kylie Jenner, And 535 00:24:00,384 --> 00:24:02,504 Speaker 3: I just think I love it. She just didn't hear 536 00:24:02,744 --> 00:24:05,824 Speaker 3: I love a little conspiracy theory. Can we not make 537 00:24:05,864 --> 00:24:09,304 Speaker 3: Demi Moore's Big night about this? Could just imagine if 538 00:24:09,344 --> 00:24:11,384 Speaker 3: you're coming off first stage. I can't even imagine people 539 00:24:11,704 --> 00:24:13,784 Speaker 3: talk about blacking out on that stage from the adrenaline. 540 00:24:13,824 --> 00:24:16,184 Speaker 3: Would one hundred percent think about the most heightened moments 541 00:24:16,184 --> 00:24:17,384 Speaker 3: of your life and you look back on it and 542 00:24:17,424 --> 00:24:19,864 Speaker 3: you're like, I don't even remember that. It was so intense. 543 00:24:20,104 --> 00:24:21,744 Speaker 3: And then going into a room and all these people 544 00:24:21,744 --> 00:24:23,464 Speaker 3: are saying congrats, Oh my god, like it would just 545 00:24:23,464 --> 00:24:26,224 Speaker 3: be like a whirlwind. You wouldn't be able to focus. 546 00:24:26,304 --> 00:24:28,544 Speaker 3: And she knows el Fanning, so she's making eye contact 547 00:24:28,584 --> 00:24:31,104 Speaker 3: with her. She sees Timothy, there's someone else at the table, 548 00:24:31,344 --> 00:24:32,584 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I don't think it was 549 00:24:32,624 --> 00:24:34,064 Speaker 3: a slight a Kylie Jenneral. 550 00:24:33,944 --> 00:24:38,264 Speaker 4: It wasn't a sly Kylie Jenner. Jenna's okay. Everyone is saying, like, 551 00:24:38,744 --> 00:24:40,544 Speaker 4: give to me her moment, give to me a moment. 552 00:24:40,584 --> 00:24:43,344 Speaker 4: I'm like, poor Kylie, because like she would have gone 553 00:24:43,384 --> 00:24:45,864 Speaker 4: in that moment not think like she one hundred percent 554 00:24:45,904 --> 00:24:47,224 Speaker 4: doesn't think she was snub She would have been like, 555 00:24:47,224 --> 00:24:48,624 Speaker 4: oh my god, that was just awkward. She didn't hear 556 00:24:48,624 --> 00:24:48,984 Speaker 4: what I say. 557 00:24:49,104 --> 00:24:50,304 Speaker 3: Yeah, And now that's just. 558 00:24:50,264 --> 00:24:54,224 Speaker 4: Gone everywhere because I've been in this situation so many times, 559 00:24:54,304 --> 00:24:57,624 Speaker 4: especially because we're in media. We go to all these events. Yeah, 560 00:24:57,664 --> 00:25:02,224 Speaker 4: it's media plus influences, and we're both doing very different things, right, 561 00:25:02,264 --> 00:25:04,464 Speaker 4: Like we're there to write about a movie or talk 562 00:25:04,504 --> 00:25:07,784 Speaker 4: about it on a podcast. They're there to make connections. 563 00:25:07,824 --> 00:25:10,824 Speaker 4: Like we're both working, we're both doing our jobs. But 564 00:25:11,024 --> 00:25:13,424 Speaker 4: the amount of times where you go to talk to 565 00:25:13,464 --> 00:25:16,824 Speaker 4: someone and they're just like, sorry, yeah, I can't. 566 00:25:16,944 --> 00:25:18,424 Speaker 3: Well, you're walking through an event. You say, hell, I 567 00:25:18,464 --> 00:25:19,864 Speaker 3: said a load of so many people and they haven't 568 00:25:19,864 --> 00:25:21,544 Speaker 3: heard me. If that was on camera, it would look 569 00:25:21,584 --> 00:25:21,904 Speaker 3: so bad. 570 00:25:21,944 --> 00:25:24,264 Speaker 4: Okay, how are you? And they just fully walk right 571 00:25:24,304 --> 00:25:26,264 Speaker 4: past me. And I'm like, if someone captured this on 572 00:25:26,344 --> 00:25:29,624 Speaker 4: camera and posted this everywhere I would do. You go viral, 573 00:25:30,184 --> 00:25:31,944 Speaker 4: and that's what Kylie Jenner is here, Like this is 574 00:25:31,984 --> 00:25:34,424 Speaker 4: the one spot where she's not in her natural habitat. 575 00:25:34,704 --> 00:25:37,064 Speaker 4: She's with all these A listers who all know each other, 576 00:25:37,064 --> 00:25:38,864 Speaker 4: who are all winning these big awards, and she's just. 577 00:25:38,864 --> 00:25:40,984 Speaker 3: There as a guest exactly. And I think she's also 578 00:25:41,144 --> 00:25:43,344 Speaker 3: made herself be there as a guest. Like we said, 579 00:25:43,384 --> 00:25:45,544 Speaker 3: she doesn't walk the red carpet, she doesn't post for 580 00:25:45,584 --> 00:25:48,704 Speaker 3: any kind of proper publicity photos, she doesn't do big 581 00:25:48,744 --> 00:25:50,744 Speaker 3: posts about it, you know what I mean. She's very 582 00:25:50,824 --> 00:25:53,424 Speaker 3: much there as a plus one. So I think it's 583 00:25:53,424 --> 00:25:56,064 Speaker 3: okay if she was like missed in one moment. But 584 00:25:56,104 --> 00:26:00,024 Speaker 3: also Demi Moore's daughter Tulula came out and why you 585 00:26:00,184 --> 00:26:06,264 Speaker 3: love it all this like it's gone so big. She 586 00:26:06,264 --> 00:26:09,304 Speaker 3: hasn't done anything and she can't comment on it. 587 00:26:09,504 --> 00:26:12,944 Speaker 4: She crat. 588 00:26:14,824 --> 00:26:15,584 Speaker 3: She's guilty. 589 00:26:15,864 --> 00:26:18,864 Speaker 4: She's guilty to me not hearing her, that's what she's 590 00:26:18,904 --> 00:26:19,344 Speaker 4: guilty of. 591 00:26:19,464 --> 00:26:21,584 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Telu that came out and was like, 592 00:26:21,744 --> 00:26:24,504 Speaker 3: my mom didn't see her. You're blowing this out into nothing. 593 00:26:24,704 --> 00:26:28,864 Speaker 3: Just stop. She didn't mean it, like, oh can people 594 00:26:28,944 --> 00:26:31,904 Speaker 3: settle down because they're making drama? And can I just 595 00:26:31,944 --> 00:26:34,904 Speaker 3: say there was some actual real drama. Wasn't the night 596 00:26:35,144 --> 00:26:37,984 Speaker 3: there was? Did you see Vin Diesel come out on stage? 597 00:26:38,224 --> 00:26:41,304 Speaker 4: Okay? I saw him, and then I saw his little 598 00:26:41,824 --> 00:26:44,784 Speaker 4: They had these fun facts happening, yeah, and the each celebrity, 599 00:26:44,824 --> 00:26:46,944 Speaker 4: and I think they didn't have a fun fact for 600 00:26:47,064 --> 00:26:47,624 Speaker 4: Vin Diesel. 601 00:26:47,664 --> 00:26:49,144 Speaker 3: So he's above fun facts. 602 00:26:49,184 --> 00:26:52,224 Speaker 4: He's so instead they just said something he liked. They 603 00:26:52,224 --> 00:26:54,984 Speaker 4: said in addition to acting, Vin Diesel is passionate about 604 00:26:55,064 --> 00:26:56,424 Speaker 4: dungeons dragons. 605 00:26:56,824 --> 00:26:58,664 Speaker 3: That's why I would argue that is a fun's not 606 00:26:58,664 --> 00:27:00,464 Speaker 3: a fun fact, that's just something he enjoyed. No, you know, 607 00:27:00,664 --> 00:27:02,424 Speaker 3: maybe you know he didn't get a fun fact? Was 608 00:27:02,464 --> 00:27:06,104 Speaker 3: your nemesis Margaret Quality because under because she presented with 609 00:27:06,144 --> 00:27:08,944 Speaker 3: Demi Moore, and Demi Moore had these great fun facts. 610 00:27:08,944 --> 00:27:11,864 Speaker 3: One she was born in like the alien capital of America. 611 00:27:12,264 --> 00:27:15,704 Speaker 3: She collects doles, she has a whole separate house for 612 00:27:15,784 --> 00:27:17,904 Speaker 3: her dolls. Let's talk about that another time. And under 613 00:27:17,944 --> 00:27:20,424 Speaker 3: Margaret call it said Margaret had a modeling career before 614 00:27:20,464 --> 00:27:22,944 Speaker 3: transitioning into acting. I'm like, that's everyone in the room 615 00:27:23,064 --> 00:27:27,384 Speaker 3: borrying me too. Anyway, Vin Diesel comes out on stage 616 00:27:27,624 --> 00:27:29,624 Speaker 3: and he walks out and he's smite with his trademark 617 00:27:29,664 --> 00:27:32,424 Speaker 3: Vin Diesel, smiling, and he looks around the room and 618 00:27:32,464 --> 00:27:33,144 Speaker 3: he says this. 619 00:27:37,624 --> 00:27:39,864 Speaker 4: Why did he do that? Why did he do that? 620 00:27:40,224 --> 00:27:42,144 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you had the appropriate reaction to that, 621 00:27:42,304 --> 00:27:45,064 Speaker 3: because because they don't like each other. When that happened, 622 00:27:45,384 --> 00:27:49,544 Speaker 3: I screamed the camera, Panta, Dwayne, Yes, Pranta Dayne. He 623 00:27:49,624 --> 00:27:51,264 Speaker 3: kind of did a bit of a half smile, but 624 00:27:51,304 --> 00:27:53,104 Speaker 3: then he looked down. And if you know Dwayne the 625 00:27:53,144 --> 00:27:57,104 Speaker 3: Rock Johnson, usually he's the big laugh, the clapping, throwing 626 00:27:57,144 --> 00:27:57,744 Speaker 3: his head back. 627 00:27:57,864 --> 00:27:58,904 Speaker 4: I feel so uncomfortable. 628 00:27:59,024 --> 00:28:02,064 Speaker 3: Did not appreciate that at all. So if you're not across, 629 00:28:02,144 --> 00:28:04,064 Speaker 3: we have done a whole episode on this because this 630 00:28:04,144 --> 00:28:06,184 Speaker 3: is my favorite Hollywood feud. And can I just say, 631 00:28:06,224 --> 00:28:08,144 Speaker 3: if this was two women feuding like this for the 632 00:28:08,184 --> 00:28:10,264 Speaker 3: amount that they have feuded, this would be front page 633 00:28:10,384 --> 00:28:12,304 Speaker 3: news everywhere, but so many people don't know about it. 634 00:28:12,584 --> 00:28:14,704 Speaker 3: So Fin Diesel comes out, he makes a point say 635 00:28:14,704 --> 00:28:17,784 Speaker 3: hello to Dwayne Johnson, who the two have been in 636 00:28:17,824 --> 00:28:23,304 Speaker 3: a very intense love hate relationship for over a decade. 637 00:28:23,624 --> 00:28:26,784 Speaker 3: So they first appeared together in twenty eleven's Fast five. 638 00:28:26,864 --> 00:28:29,304 Speaker 3: So part of the Fast and Furious friend really is film. 639 00:28:29,424 --> 00:28:32,704 Speaker 4: They it's my favorite Fast Furious film. They're not them both, 640 00:28:33,024 --> 00:28:34,784 Speaker 4: I know. Do you hate that they don't like each other? 641 00:28:35,264 --> 00:28:38,224 Speaker 4: Now they have to do separate Fast and Furio can't 642 00:28:38,304 --> 00:28:38,744 Speaker 4: keep up. 643 00:28:39,064 --> 00:28:41,824 Speaker 3: So over the years they've had, you know, a bit 644 00:28:41,824 --> 00:28:44,624 Speaker 3: of public sparring. They've tried to keep it in some cases, 645 00:28:44,704 --> 00:28:47,064 Speaker 3: tried to keep it a little bit, you know, like, oh, 646 00:28:47,144 --> 00:28:49,544 Speaker 3: we're just two alpha males, or like we love each other, 647 00:28:49,584 --> 00:28:52,064 Speaker 3: but brothers fight all that sort of stuff. But you're like, no, no, no, 648 00:28:52,464 --> 00:28:55,704 Speaker 3: this is weird. Really going has happened. So a lot 649 00:28:55,704 --> 00:28:58,784 Speaker 3: of it kicked off in twenty sixteen when Dwayne Johnson, 650 00:28:58,824 --> 00:29:02,744 Speaker 3: again the most unconfrontational celebrity. Everyone talk that much they 651 00:29:02,784 --> 00:29:04,824 Speaker 3: love him. He's always like he's like the Goody Goody 652 00:29:04,904 --> 00:29:08,304 Speaker 3: of Hollywood, put up an Instagram post talking about like 653 00:29:08,344 --> 00:29:10,904 Speaker 3: how difficult it was to work with Fast and Fearious people. 654 00:29:10,904 --> 00:29:13,384 Speaker 3: But he didn't name anyone, but he called them candy 655 00:29:13,464 --> 00:29:16,064 Speaker 3: asses and said that they were really difficult. 656 00:29:16,184 --> 00:29:17,544 Speaker 4: I forgot about candy asses. 657 00:29:17,744 --> 00:29:19,224 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then later on I think he said something 658 00:29:19,264 --> 00:29:22,064 Speaker 3: like someone was a candy ass bitch, like that's his 659 00:29:22,144 --> 00:29:27,064 Speaker 3: favorite Wade candy ass bitch. And then Vin Diesel, they 660 00:29:27,144 --> 00:29:30,664 Speaker 3: just posted a video saying how happy he was to 661 00:29:30,784 --> 00:29:32,864 Speaker 3: make the Fast and Furious movies. But he said, you know, 662 00:29:32,944 --> 00:29:35,784 Speaker 3: like honestly, one day I will tell you everything everything, 663 00:29:35,784 --> 00:29:38,104 Speaker 3: And people think that's about Dwayne. And then they have 664 00:29:38,264 --> 00:29:41,144 Speaker 3: referenced each other a few different times saying that they 665 00:29:41,144 --> 00:29:43,264 Speaker 3: had a bit of a difficult time, and then Vin 666 00:29:43,304 --> 00:29:45,184 Speaker 3: Diesel tried to spin it a little bit, saying that 667 00:29:45,224 --> 00:29:48,064 Speaker 3: he's like, no, I protected Dwayne more than he'll ever know, 668 00:29:48,344 --> 00:29:50,664 Speaker 3: but it doesn't matter. He knows it. Dwayne has only 669 00:29:50,704 --> 00:29:53,504 Speaker 3: got one Vin in his life. Dwayne Johnson only has 670 00:29:53,544 --> 00:29:55,784 Speaker 3: one big brother in this film world, and that's me 671 00:29:56,344 --> 00:29:59,224 Speaker 3: and Dwayne. When he heard that, he just replied and said, 672 00:29:59,224 --> 00:30:03,024 Speaker 3: I laughed, and I laughed and I laughed. And then 673 00:30:03,184 --> 00:30:06,064 Speaker 3: they were in separate movies together. Yes, they were asked 674 00:30:06,064 --> 00:30:08,024 Speaker 3: why they weren't in any scenes together when they were 675 00:30:08,024 --> 00:30:10,224 Speaker 3: in a movie together, and Johnson said, oh, I'm going 676 00:30:10,264 --> 00:30:12,824 Speaker 3: to reply, is that's correct? We are in no scenes together. 677 00:30:13,104 --> 00:30:15,184 Speaker 3: And then Vin Diesel put out a statement at one 678 00:30:15,224 --> 00:30:17,464 Speaker 3: stage trying to get him to come back into the 679 00:30:17,504 --> 00:30:20,144 Speaker 3: Fast and furious about that, He's like, it's time to 680 00:30:20,184 --> 00:30:23,024 Speaker 3: come home. The people want it. Duayne Johnson's like basically 681 00:30:23,064 --> 00:30:25,064 Speaker 3: said I will never be in a movie with you again. 682 00:30:25,504 --> 00:30:28,384 Speaker 3: And he has his own separate hobs and shaw. Yeah 683 00:30:28,544 --> 00:30:28,984 Speaker 3: a French. 684 00:30:29,064 --> 00:30:31,184 Speaker 4: He took Jason straight and with him it's like you're 685 00:30:31,224 --> 00:30:31,784 Speaker 4: coming with me. 686 00:30:31,984 --> 00:30:33,584 Speaker 3: But then he did say like thank you to Vin 687 00:30:33,624 --> 00:30:35,824 Speaker 3: Diesel for like making this possible. So like they have, 688 00:30:35,984 --> 00:30:37,784 Speaker 3: you know, they had a bit of a difficult relationship, 689 00:30:37,864 --> 00:30:40,344 Speaker 3: but like it was such a blatant thing to do 690 00:30:40,504 --> 00:30:42,504 Speaker 3: because Vin Diesel did not need to go that hard. 691 00:30:42,624 --> 00:30:45,424 Speaker 4: No, And I think because like similar to The Rock, 692 00:30:45,584 --> 00:30:49,264 Speaker 4: like Vin Diesel's also like such a beloved person, like 693 00:30:49,304 --> 00:30:52,264 Speaker 4: he walked Paul Walker's daughter down the aisle for a wedding, 694 00:30:52,464 --> 00:30:54,864 Speaker 4: Like he's like the one who championed the whole. Like 695 00:30:54,904 --> 00:30:55,624 Speaker 4: we're family. 696 00:30:55,904 --> 00:30:58,184 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what Michelle Rogue said, She's like my whole. 697 00:30:58,224 --> 00:31:00,264 Speaker 3: I owe so much of my career and my protection 698 00:31:00,424 --> 00:31:02,544 Speaker 3: Hollywood to Vin Diesel. Like the cast of Fast and 699 00:31:02,584 --> 00:31:03,384 Speaker 3: Furiors love him. 700 00:31:03,424 --> 00:31:05,544 Speaker 4: So it's just really confusing because I think everyone who 701 00:31:05,624 --> 00:31:08,224 Speaker 4: loves The Rock also loves Vin Diesel and vice versa. 702 00:31:08,304 --> 00:31:09,984 Speaker 4: So when this happened, we were all like, wait, what, 703 00:31:10,184 --> 00:31:12,024 Speaker 4: Like it's like our parents are divorced, so it's like 704 00:31:12,064 --> 00:31:14,264 Speaker 4: our parents are fighting one hundred percent. But I just 705 00:31:14,304 --> 00:31:16,184 Speaker 4: thought it's at the Golden Globes. No one's thought of 706 00:31:16,224 --> 00:31:18,544 Speaker 4: this feud for years because they haven't mentioned each other 707 00:31:18,584 --> 00:31:20,704 Speaker 4: in years. And then Vin diesel just as he does. 708 00:31:20,824 --> 00:31:22,624 Speaker 4: He's walked so slowly onto stage. 709 00:31:22,944 --> 00:31:25,304 Speaker 3: He looked in the audience. You see his eyes lock. 710 00:31:25,624 --> 00:31:28,264 Speaker 3: He took a pause, a smile comes over his face, 711 00:31:28,344 --> 00:31:29,784 Speaker 3: and then he just calls out. 712 00:31:29,704 --> 00:31:32,064 Speaker 4: Duet John's my god, a great promo for I guess 713 00:31:32,064 --> 00:31:35,384 Speaker 4: the sixty seventh like faster, but. 714 00:31:35,384 --> 00:31:38,824 Speaker 3: They've already gone to space. What to do? 715 00:31:39,704 --> 00:31:41,464 Speaker 4: I'm ready for a deep die. Maybe they'll go in 716 00:31:41,504 --> 00:31:41,904 Speaker 4: the ocean. 717 00:31:42,224 --> 00:31:45,944 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think they have done that. But that's nice. 718 00:31:45,984 --> 00:31:49,104 Speaker 3: The other controversial speech I thought, which wasn't that controversial, 719 00:31:49,184 --> 00:31:52,624 Speaker 3: but Sebastian stan Oh, yes, yes, so he was. 720 00:31:52,704 --> 00:31:53,744 Speaker 4: I was a bit surprised at that. 721 00:31:53,784 --> 00:31:56,104 Speaker 3: Whim. Yeah, well, I mean that's a really so he 722 00:31:56,144 --> 00:31:58,384 Speaker 3: won for a different man. He was nomde for both 723 00:31:58,384 --> 00:32:01,624 Speaker 3: a Different Man and the Apprentice, And again he was 724 00:32:01,664 --> 00:32:04,184 Speaker 3: like quite emotional on stage. But what was interesting is 725 00:32:04,184 --> 00:32:07,064 Speaker 3: that he mentioned The Apprentice in his winner's speech for 726 00:32:07,184 --> 00:32:10,664 Speaker 3: a different man, and he said when he was accepting award, 727 00:32:10,664 --> 00:32:12,984 Speaker 3: he said, this was an easy movie to make. Neither 728 00:32:13,104 --> 00:32:15,864 Speaker 3: was The Apprentice. You know, they're tough subject matters, but 729 00:32:15,904 --> 00:32:18,544 Speaker 3: these films are real and they are necessary, and we 730 00:32:18,584 --> 00:32:24,224 Speaker 3: can't be afraid to look away now, saying Actors on Actors, Yeah, 731 00:32:24,264 --> 00:32:26,104 Speaker 3: when he said we can't be afraid to look away, 732 00:32:26,304 --> 00:32:29,464 Speaker 3: that's only interesting if you kind of really know the backstory, 733 00:32:29,784 --> 00:32:32,024 Speaker 3: which is something we've touched on before, which is that 734 00:32:32,304 --> 00:32:35,384 Speaker 3: being in two big movies, he should have been in 735 00:32:35,424 --> 00:32:38,024 Speaker 3: the variety Actors on Actors video series where the big 736 00:32:38,024 --> 00:32:41,104 Speaker 3: Awards show contenders come together talk about their careers and 737 00:32:41,144 --> 00:32:45,144 Speaker 3: talk about their Awards Show projects. And he said at 738 00:32:45,184 --> 00:32:47,384 Speaker 3: a screening of The Apprentice, when asked why he wasn't 739 00:32:47,424 --> 00:32:49,584 Speaker 3: part of it, because he was so surprised, saying that 740 00:32:49,664 --> 00:32:51,304 Speaker 3: he was asked to be in it, he agreed he 741 00:32:51,384 --> 00:32:53,304 Speaker 3: wanted to do it, but they could not find another 742 00:32:53,344 --> 00:32:55,424 Speaker 3: actor to pair with him, and he did. He said, 743 00:32:55,424 --> 00:32:57,224 Speaker 3: I'm not calling anyone out in particular. I think a 744 00:32:57,224 --> 00:32:58,824 Speaker 3: lot of it was to do with their publicists of 745 00:32:58,904 --> 00:33:00,944 Speaker 3: people not wanting to be involved with the Donald Trump 746 00:33:00,944 --> 00:33:04,104 Speaker 3: movie because The Apprentice is about Donald Trump. Donald Trump's 747 00:33:04,144 --> 00:33:07,144 Speaker 3: team threatened to sue the movie. They've been really angry 748 00:33:07,224 --> 00:33:10,584 Speaker 3: about it, and Sebastian standers said, like, I think people 749 00:33:10,584 --> 00:33:12,664 Speaker 3: are really afraid to have their name involved with me, 750 00:33:12,704 --> 00:33:15,064 Speaker 3: and you know, it is what it is, So it is. 751 00:33:15,064 --> 00:33:18,704 Speaker 4: A risky move. Yeah, doing a movie like that about 752 00:33:18,864 --> 00:33:20,104 Speaker 4: the president of your country. 753 00:33:20,424 --> 00:33:22,704 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I mean, obviously he was saying, The Apprentice 754 00:33:22,704 --> 00:33:24,584 Speaker 3: has been in production for over five years, so I 755 00:33:24,584 --> 00:33:27,024 Speaker 3: think at the time was going to happen again. Yeah, 756 00:33:27,104 --> 00:33:29,104 Speaker 3: I mean you want to think, like I hope that 757 00:33:29,144 --> 00:33:31,664 Speaker 3: we weren't going to have him as our president again, 758 00:33:31,704 --> 00:33:33,784 Speaker 3: but that's what happened. Nicki Glazer also said that in 759 00:33:33,784 --> 00:33:35,544 Speaker 3: her opening one logue, she is you guys can tell 760 00:33:35,664 --> 00:33:38,264 Speaker 3: you're the most powerful people in the world, except when 761 00:33:38,264 --> 00:33:40,464 Speaker 3: you're telling people who to vote for, because obviously they 762 00:33:40,544 --> 00:33:43,224 Speaker 3: all campaigned so hard for Kamala Harris. But yeah, I 763 00:33:43,224 --> 00:33:46,144 Speaker 3: thought that was interesting from Sebastian stan Can I tell 764 00:33:46,144 --> 00:33:48,544 Speaker 3: you one more speech that was a bit controversial if 765 00:33:48,584 --> 00:33:51,144 Speaker 3: you knew what to look for, yes, please. It was 766 00:33:51,264 --> 00:33:53,144 Speaker 3: the brutaliss so as we said, the Brutalist won a 767 00:33:53,184 --> 00:33:55,384 Speaker 3: lot of awards. When they got up on stage for 768 00:33:55,424 --> 00:33:58,304 Speaker 3: their Best Drama win, director Brady Corbett was like, oh, 769 00:33:58,384 --> 00:34:00,184 Speaker 3: I mean I only prepared one speech. I didn't think 770 00:34:00,184 --> 00:34:03,104 Speaker 3: we were going to win multiple awards, And then he 771 00:34:03,184 --> 00:34:04,344 Speaker 3: went on to say this. 772 00:34:04,624 --> 00:34:08,624 Speaker 2: I just want to leave everyone with something to think about. 773 00:34:10,424 --> 00:34:17,584 Speaker 2: Final cut, tie break goes to the director. I I 774 00:34:17,664 --> 00:34:19,464 Speaker 2: that that's sort of a controversial statement. 775 00:34:19,464 --> 00:34:20,064 Speaker 4: It shouldn't be. 776 00:34:20,184 --> 00:34:23,904 Speaker 2: It shouldn't be controversial at all. I was told that 777 00:34:24,024 --> 00:34:28,704 Speaker 2: this film was undistributable. I was told that no one 778 00:34:29,384 --> 00:34:32,384 Speaker 2: would would come out and see it. I was told 779 00:34:32,424 --> 00:34:34,584 Speaker 2: the film wouldn't work. 780 00:34:35,464 --> 00:34:36,584 Speaker 1: And and I'm not I. 781 00:34:36,504 --> 00:34:39,184 Speaker 2: Don't resent that, but I but I want to use 782 00:34:39,224 --> 00:34:44,624 Speaker 2: this as an opportunity to lift up when you know, filmmakers, 783 00:34:45,064 --> 00:34:47,024 Speaker 2: all of my not just fellow nominees, but all the 784 00:34:47,064 --> 00:34:52,584 Speaker 2: extraordinary directors in this room. Films don't exist without the filmmakers. 785 00:34:53,224 --> 00:34:54,504 Speaker 3: Please let's support them. 786 00:34:54,584 --> 00:34:56,504 Speaker 2: Let's let's let's prop them up. 787 00:34:57,344 --> 00:34:58,304 Speaker 4: What does he mean by that? 788 00:34:58,624 --> 00:35:01,264 Speaker 3: So this is maybe a long boat to draw, But 789 00:35:01,344 --> 00:35:05,584 Speaker 3: people think he was defending Justin Balderney against Blake Lively 790 00:35:06,624 --> 00:35:09,064 Speaker 3: because one of the big threads that has come out 791 00:35:09,104 --> 00:35:11,944 Speaker 3: of the whole it ends with us drama between Justin 792 00:35:12,064 --> 00:35:14,584 Speaker 3: Baldoni and Blake Lively, and well, I should say drama 793 00:35:14,584 --> 00:35:17,864 Speaker 3: because she was suing him for sexual assault and suing 794 00:35:17,904 --> 00:35:20,224 Speaker 3: the company. You know, it's a really serious matter. But 795 00:35:20,384 --> 00:35:22,504 Speaker 3: one of the big contentions that came out of that 796 00:35:22,584 --> 00:35:25,704 Speaker 3: from the moment the film was released was that it's 797 00:35:25,744 --> 00:35:27,944 Speaker 3: been confirmed that like Justin Baldoni had a cut of 798 00:35:27,984 --> 00:35:30,544 Speaker 3: the movie and then Blake Lively had a cut of 799 00:35:30,544 --> 00:35:32,584 Speaker 3: the movie. So they both edited it at a different 800 00:35:32,664 --> 00:35:34,984 Speaker 3: music put scenes in and out. They both had their 801 00:35:34,984 --> 00:35:37,624 Speaker 3: own version of the movie, and Ryan Reynolds helped Blake 802 00:35:37,664 --> 00:35:38,984 Speaker 3: Lively with her as long with like you know, the 803 00:35:39,104 --> 00:35:42,384 Speaker 3: editing team and the studio went with Blake Lively's cut, 804 00:35:42,944 --> 00:35:46,144 Speaker 3: and so it's maybe along bow to draw because Brady 805 00:35:46,184 --> 00:35:48,504 Speaker 3: Corbet was saying in that bit, like, you know, they 806 00:35:48,504 --> 00:35:50,704 Speaker 3: told me this cut wouldn't go out, They told me 807 00:35:50,704 --> 00:35:52,904 Speaker 3: it wouldn't work. But it's the director who makes and 808 00:35:53,024 --> 00:35:54,784 Speaker 3: the choice. And he's like, this is the choice I've made, 809 00:35:54,784 --> 00:35:58,024 Speaker 3: And it's basically he's saying, let me do, let directors 810 00:35:58,024 --> 00:36:00,064 Speaker 3: do what they do, and we will win awards for you. 811 00:36:00,384 --> 00:36:02,464 Speaker 3: But because that's been such a big part of the 812 00:36:02,664 --> 00:36:07,304 Speaker 3: Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni situation. People really took it 813 00:36:07,344 --> 00:36:10,104 Speaker 3: as him saying, like, the director makes the cut. I 814 00:36:11,544 --> 00:36:14,384 Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, I don't know what his relationship 815 00:36:14,424 --> 00:36:15,504 Speaker 3: with Justin Baldoni is. 816 00:36:15,624 --> 00:36:18,784 Speaker 4: It feels far fetch, but when you compare it, it 817 00:36:18,784 --> 00:36:21,144 Speaker 4: does make sense. It is a weird thing to say 818 00:36:21,424 --> 00:36:22,904 Speaker 4: unless something happened. 819 00:36:22,784 --> 00:36:24,984 Speaker 3: On his well that's what he was saying. The studio 820 00:36:25,264 --> 00:36:26,784 Speaker 3: wasn't going to go with his cut and they wanted 821 00:36:26,824 --> 00:36:29,464 Speaker 3: him to change it. But that's a very normal thing 822 00:36:29,544 --> 00:36:31,384 Speaker 3: between a director and the studio, Like there's so much 823 00:36:31,424 --> 00:36:34,064 Speaker 3: push and pull always and I think it depends how 824 00:36:34,384 --> 00:36:36,704 Speaker 3: successful the director is of how much say they actually 825 00:36:36,704 --> 00:36:38,264 Speaker 3: get at the end of the day of which cut 826 00:36:38,424 --> 00:36:39,984 Speaker 3: goes with it. So I think he was saying like, 827 00:36:40,024 --> 00:36:41,904 Speaker 3: no matter, I mean, I'm going to give him the 828 00:36:41,944 --> 00:36:43,464 Speaker 3: benefit of the doubt that he was saying, like, no 829 00:36:43,584 --> 00:36:46,464 Speaker 3: matter how successful the director is, what the movie is, 830 00:36:46,464 --> 00:36:49,744 Speaker 3: they should always have final cut over a studio or 831 00:36:49,784 --> 00:36:51,824 Speaker 3: over an actor, which he was saying. 832 00:36:51,864 --> 00:36:55,624 Speaker 4: So maybe it was I don't know, interesting controversial. The 833 00:36:55,664 --> 00:36:58,624 Speaker 4: other big scandal that came up last night that happened 834 00:36:58,664 --> 00:37:02,424 Speaker 4: actually on the Red carpet was that Zendaya was wearing 835 00:37:02,904 --> 00:37:05,704 Speaker 4: a diamond on her ring finger. So a lot of 836 00:37:05,744 --> 00:37:09,824 Speaker 4: people are saying that is she secretly engaged to Tom Holland. 837 00:37:10,024 --> 00:37:12,904 Speaker 3: Though when I first saw her on the Red carpet, 838 00:37:12,944 --> 00:37:15,144 Speaker 3: I thought no, because she had a lot of jewelry on, 839 00:37:15,384 --> 00:37:16,904 Speaker 3: and I thought a lot of the time women just 840 00:37:16,944 --> 00:37:19,464 Speaker 3: do wear a ring on that finger if they have 841 00:37:19,504 --> 00:37:21,944 Speaker 3: a lot of other jewelry on, and so it could 842 00:37:21,984 --> 00:37:24,544 Speaker 3: have been nothing like people are always thinking celebrities engaged 843 00:37:24,544 --> 00:37:27,024 Speaker 3: when they're not. But then some other evidence came to light. 844 00:37:27,424 --> 00:37:30,104 Speaker 3: One is that the burnt orange dress that we talked 845 00:37:30,104 --> 00:37:32,424 Speaker 3: about yesterday, it slipped down a little and just above 846 00:37:32,424 --> 00:37:34,584 Speaker 3: her boob. It looks like kind of like we're on 847 00:37:34,584 --> 00:37:36,304 Speaker 3: a podcast, so you can't see her own pointing just 848 00:37:36,344 --> 00:37:38,744 Speaker 3: here and between armpit and boob kind of area. It 849 00:37:38,824 --> 00:37:40,704 Speaker 3: seemed like she had a little tea tattoo, which was 850 00:37:40,784 --> 00:37:43,224 Speaker 3: new because she's talked about her tattoos in the past 851 00:37:43,224 --> 00:37:45,424 Speaker 3: and she hasn't had that one. Then this is the 852 00:37:45,504 --> 00:37:47,344 Speaker 3: interesting part. Then she went into the room for the 853 00:37:47,384 --> 00:37:50,584 Speaker 3: ceremony and she changed into a different dress because obviously 854 00:37:50,624 --> 00:37:53,104 Speaker 3: she had a huge train on that dress. Apparently Andrew 855 00:37:53,144 --> 00:37:55,064 Speaker 3: Garfield carried the back of her dress and for her 856 00:37:55,104 --> 00:37:56,864 Speaker 3: because it was too big to get through the room. 857 00:37:56,944 --> 00:37:59,184 Speaker 4: Funny, she changed into a different dress. 858 00:37:59,344 --> 00:38:02,184 Speaker 3: She took off all the jewelry pretty much except for 859 00:38:02,264 --> 00:38:06,184 Speaker 3: the diamond ring on that finger, on her ring finger. Also, 860 00:38:06,824 --> 00:38:09,984 Speaker 3: a lot of people received the press release because when 861 00:38:10,024 --> 00:38:11,824 Speaker 3: people walk the red carpet, as soon as they arrived, 862 00:38:12,064 --> 00:38:14,584 Speaker 3: all their publicists, all the brands who dressed them send 863 00:38:14,584 --> 00:38:17,664 Speaker 3: out a pressure is saying, Zendea is wearing this dress, 864 00:38:17,664 --> 00:38:19,504 Speaker 3: she's wearing these shoes. She's because they want in your 865 00:38:19,504 --> 00:38:22,904 Speaker 3: coverage for you to name the brand and the places 866 00:38:22,904 --> 00:38:25,024 Speaker 3: who did her jewelry sent out an email and the 867 00:38:25,144 --> 00:38:27,784 Speaker 3: ring was not listed, so it didn't come from any 868 00:38:27,824 --> 00:38:30,144 Speaker 3: jewelry houses who had dressed her. So that is her 869 00:38:30,144 --> 00:38:30,584 Speaker 3: own ring. 870 00:38:30,744 --> 00:38:31,984 Speaker 4: Okay, So she's engaged. 871 00:38:32,744 --> 00:38:36,944 Speaker 3: And some journalists were in the room, notably some journalists 872 00:38:36,944 --> 00:38:39,104 Speaker 3: from the La Times who wrote a recap, and one 873 00:38:39,144 --> 00:38:41,704 Speaker 3: of them said that Zendeya walked past her into the 874 00:38:41,784 --> 00:38:43,784 Speaker 3: room and the journalist who was engaged held up her 875 00:38:43,784 --> 00:38:46,024 Speaker 3: finger and was like waving at her, and she said 876 00:38:46,064 --> 00:38:49,144 Speaker 3: in response, Zendeia held up her ring finger and was 877 00:38:49,224 --> 00:38:51,904 Speaker 3: like say, like as if like you know, shaking her 878 00:38:51,944 --> 00:38:54,984 Speaker 3: hand back and we're engaged. To the journalists as a 879 00:38:55,064 --> 00:38:57,264 Speaker 3: journalist would do, or is any insane human being would do, 880 00:38:57,344 --> 00:39:01,024 Speaker 3: said are you engaged? And Zendeya laughed, shrugged and like 881 00:39:01,144 --> 00:39:04,064 Speaker 3: ran away. She knows what she's doing. I think they're engaged. 882 00:39:04,224 --> 00:39:06,904 Speaker 4: They're engaged. What makes us really funny is that the 883 00:39:06,904 --> 00:39:09,984 Speaker 4: person who I heard there's from was a CEO NTT. Harvey. 884 00:39:10,624 --> 00:39:12,224 Speaker 4: She was like, I think some days engaged. You're wearing 885 00:39:12,264 --> 00:39:13,984 Speaker 4: a ring finger and I was like, I don't think so. 886 00:39:14,584 --> 00:39:17,184 Speaker 3: To be fair, people have thought they potentially there's been 887 00:39:17,264 --> 00:39:19,704 Speaker 3: rumors they've been engaged for quite a long time, but 888 00:39:19,824 --> 00:39:21,664 Speaker 3: she just hasn't warned the ring out in public, so 889 00:39:21,704 --> 00:39:24,304 Speaker 3: maybe she thought she killed on. They're really young, No, 890 00:39:24,344 --> 00:39:26,944 Speaker 3: they're not. She'sn't her late twenties. He's only thirty. That 891 00:39:27,064 --> 00:39:29,264 Speaker 3: just and also they've both been working since they were 892 00:39:29,304 --> 00:39:31,744 Speaker 3: little kids. They probably feel like they're in their fifties 893 00:39:31,784 --> 00:39:34,904 Speaker 3: by now. So anyway, that's very cute news. We'll never 894 00:39:34,944 --> 00:39:38,904 Speaker 3: see wedding photos, like they're surprised, but we'll never see 895 00:39:38,904 --> 00:39:39,504 Speaker 3: a wedding photo. 896 00:39:39,544 --> 00:39:41,464 Speaker 4: But can imagine her dress I'll be like, what are 897 00:39:41,464 --> 00:39:43,304 Speaker 4: you teasing to what. 898 00:39:43,784 --> 00:39:44,984 Speaker 3: She really addresses her wedding. 899 00:39:45,784 --> 00:39:48,144 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 900 00:39:48,184 --> 00:39:50,264 Speaker 4: If you've got some extra time on your commune or 901 00:39:50,304 --> 00:39:53,104 Speaker 4: while you're at home pottering around or cleaning, you can 902 00:39:53,184 --> 00:39:56,264 Speaker 4: check out our episodes on the wildest celebrity scandals of 903 00:39:56,304 --> 00:39:59,224 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, the best new TV shows this summer, 904 00:39:59,504 --> 00:40:02,024 Speaker 4: or the best new movies to watch for summer. 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