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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mom and Maya

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Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this

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Speaker 2: I am pregnanty.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Hello Bump. We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and

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Speaker 1: more manageable, hopefully. I'm Grace Riefrey, a writer, actor, podcaster,

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Speaker 1: and I am also pregnant for the very first time.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Yana Pittman. I am a former Olympian mother

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Speaker 2: of six and obstetric and GANI registrar, which basically means

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Speaker 2: I deliver babies for a living and.

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Speaker 1: With our experience combined, each episode will be holding your

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Speaker 1: hand week by week through the mysterious, perplexing, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: scary miracle that is pregnancy, all the way from a

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Speaker 1: poppy seed to a pumpkin. Week four. So we're starting

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Speaker 1: this podcast series at week four because that's usually when

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Speaker 1: you've found out that you are pregnant. There's not a

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Speaker 1: lot that happens between week one and three, and they

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Speaker 1: will backdate it from your last period. So, Yana, how

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Speaker 1: big is the baby at this point?

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Speaker 2: Well, your baby's about the size of a poppy seed

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Speaker 2: at this point, or just like a speck of dust

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Speaker 2: or glitter, Yeah, a little cheer seat or something very small.

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Speaker 2: It's basically a small clump of cells that's just embedded

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Speaker 2: into the lining of your uter's about two point five millimeters,

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Speaker 2: so it's tiny. What what's happening to me?

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Speaker 1: So tell me what's going on in our bodies this week?

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Speaker 2: Well, implantation has just occurred, so your sperm has met

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Speaker 2: and then it's made its way down the floapin and

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Speaker 2: because you're making that beta hCG hormone that's the hallmark

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Speaker 2: of pregnancy. The placenter itself is actually starting to grow.

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Speaker 2: Your baby comes from different cells from the placenter, so

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Speaker 2: they grow at the same time, but independently. And right

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Speaker 2: now your baby's actually only the size we actually call it, well,

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Speaker 2: it's not even quite an embryo yet, but it's two

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Speaker 1: When does that placenta actually start to take over. Because

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funnily enough, it's actually not for several weeks,

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Speaker 2: around between nine and ten weeks. That at this point

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Speaker 2: the baby has what's called a yolk sack that's actually

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Speaker 2: but guys, way too early, do not make an ultrasound

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Speaker 2: booking yet, because that is one of the biggest problems.

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Speaker 2: Women go now and they can't see anything and then

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Speaker 2: they freak out that they're already having a miscaracter. That's

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Speaker 2: just simply too early. But there is a yolk sack

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Speaker 2: which will be one of the first signs on ultrasound

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Speaker 1: What I found interesting about this stage is that everything,

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, they're pretty similar to the hormones of pregnancy. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: those signs that can often, as you say, indicate pregnancy

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Speaker 1: So is that why they're backdate when you are technically

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Speaker 2: But I do think it's a really good point to discuss,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you highlighted them pretty well, thanks unfortunately

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Speaker 1: It's funny I call it a parasite, but for different reasons,

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Speaker 1: A couple of things about is it normal? At this time?

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Speaker 1: There's the symptoms that are the ones we spoke about,

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Speaker 1: Leads me into the important things that we should be

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Speaker 2: Again, A lot of us don't know we're pregnant, but

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Speaker 2: ideally you start taking you know, a women's multi item

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Speaker 2: like spiner befitter from occurring. So you know, many many

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Speaker 2: make a difference. So for most of it, you know,

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Speaker 2: between four hundred and eight hundred milligrams is enough, but

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Speaker 2: you need to triple check if you're at higher risk.

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Speaker 2: So people with a high BMI, people who have are

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Speaker 2: a conversation to have. But the best thing you can

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Speaker 2: so you'll plan.

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Speaker 1: It's never too late, never too absolutely no correct.

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Speaker 2: Never too late.

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Speaker 1: And what are some like nice to do things, things

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great, Ay, Look it's very early, but I would

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Speaker 2: actually say start thinking about what model of care you

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Speaker 2: You have what I love and I went with my

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Speaker 2: So whether you want to be MIDWI free group practice,

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Speaker 2: I'm much better at counseling around birth and making it normal,

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Speaker 2: getting early. So that's why it's important now, even this

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to need a lot of help along

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Speaker 1: this pregnancy. It's only week four, so what can we

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Speaker 1: put in our talkkit for this week? Did you pick

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Speaker 2: Because I think having an app, particularly for a first

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Speaker 1: Have you, Oh, yes, I have the flow out. Yes

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Speaker 1: I like it, but I was using it to track

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Speaker 1: What I like about this is it gives you, like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean you can also use it in

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Speaker 2: pregnancy too, and as you're trying to get pregnant. I

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Speaker 2: think what I liked about Flow Pregnancy Plus is another

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Speaker 1: I have both.

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Speaker 2: I have to say I liked both and I checked

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