WEBVTT - Inside G Flip’s Marriage to Chrishell Stause 0:00:10.365 --> 0:00:15.005 You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges 0:00:15.045 --> 0:00:17.685 the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 0:00:17.765 --> 0:00:18.685 is recorded on. 0:00:18.845 --> 0:00:23.125 The last few years. To be honest, it's an IVF. 0:00:23.165 --> 0:00:25.685 It's been a real struggle and we've had so many 0:00:25.725 --> 0:00:28.005 ups and downs and for anyone that goes through that 0:00:28.085 --> 0:00:32.645 whole process, like hopeful moments and then sad moments, and 0:00:32.645 --> 0:00:34.045 then there's a little bit of hope and then it 0:00:34.125 --> 0:00:36.885 all backfires and then it's going starting again. 0:00:42.445 --> 0:00:47.405 Hello and welcome to No Filter. I'm kateline Brook and 0:00:47.485 --> 0:00:51.205 today we're diving into the world of g Flip and 0:00:51.245 --> 0:00:54.085 what a world it is. G Flip is one of 0:00:54.085 --> 0:00:59.285 Australia's most exciting boundary pushing musicians, and from their breakout 0:00:59.405 --> 0:01:04.325 hits to life behind the scenes, g shares the moments 0:01:04.325 --> 0:01:07.485 that shape their journey from the highs of touring and 0:01:07.565 --> 0:01:14.805 performing to very personal stories of love, relationships and family. 0:01:16.165 --> 0:01:20.005 In this episode, we hear about the chance encounter that 0:01:20.125 --> 0:01:25.685 led to meeting Krishelle Staus, how their friendship turned into love, 0:01:26.445 --> 0:01:31.445 and what it's really like navigating life and relationships in 0:01:31.485 --> 0:01:36.285 the very public eye. Plus, g Flip opens up about 0:01:36.285 --> 0:01:40.245 the challenges of IVF, the joy of celebrating love with 0:01:40.445 --> 0:01:45.125 annual weddings, and how they stay true to themselves no 0:01:45.165 --> 0:01:47.885 matter what the world throws at them. This is g 0:01:48.125 --> 0:01:54.965 flip raw unfiltered, and I think you'll find utterly captivating. 0:01:56.525 --> 0:02:05.045 G flip Yell you straddle continents? Do I love a straddle? 0:02:06.085 --> 0:02:10.605 I love a straddle? But you're with us? So you're 0:02:10.645 --> 0:02:15.325 in Sydney, I'm in Melbourne, I'm in your hometown. Yes, 0:02:15.445 --> 0:02:18.125 I was just there yesterday. And what were you doing here? 0:02:19.125 --> 0:02:20.325 I flew in yesterday. 0:02:20.885 --> 0:02:22.325 I didn't want to fly in and have a day 0:02:22.325 --> 0:02:25.965 off in Sydney, so because my family aren't here, sometimes 0:02:26.245 --> 0:02:29.525 I will fly into Melbourne just for a few hours 0:02:29.565 --> 0:02:31.565 to see my family, then get straight back to the 0:02:31.565 --> 0:02:32.845 airport and fly to Sydney. 0:02:33.005 --> 0:02:35.125 So how was that? What did you do? Were you 0:02:35.245 --> 0:02:38.165 at the house or Yeah? 0:02:38.205 --> 0:02:42.205 So just at my place in Melbourne and my sister 0:02:42.285 --> 0:02:46.045 and my brother in law and their little niece. My 0:02:46.125 --> 0:02:49.285 little niece, so, yes, their little baby who's one and 0:02:49.325 --> 0:02:52.605 a half and name's Betty Moon. She's so cute. So 0:02:52.765 --> 0:02:55.485 just hung out on the couch with them for hours 0:02:55.925 --> 0:02:58.085 until I went straight back to the airport and that's 0:02:58.125 --> 0:02:58.765 what I do. 0:02:59.405 --> 0:03:02.245 And how often are you getting to do this? Because 0:03:03.205 --> 0:03:07.925 your life has I'm going to say, in the last 0:03:08.125 --> 0:03:11.885 five years, what does it feel like to you where 0:03:11.925 --> 0:03:20.445 it's kind of just gone stratospheric? I think probably after COVID. 0:03:20.725 --> 0:03:24.365 So before COVID, my career started, like I became like 0:03:24.845 --> 0:03:26.205 a professional musician. 0:03:26.685 --> 0:03:28.645 I started doing this as my day job. 0:03:28.725 --> 0:03:32.485 And then I tried to move over to LA at 0:03:32.525 --> 0:03:35.285 the start of twenty twenty, had my flight booked, my 0:03:35.325 --> 0:03:41.525 bags packed, and then I got called. Then yeah, COVID happened, Yeah, 0:03:41.565 --> 0:03:45.445 and then took me till September twenty twenty one. Then 0:03:45.485 --> 0:03:48.365 I went over to the States to live, and then 0:03:48.405 --> 0:03:50.445 from there on it just got a bit more hectic. 0:03:50.565 --> 0:03:53.605 So now I try to visit every three to four 0:03:53.645 --> 0:03:54.605 months come back. 0:03:55.165 --> 0:03:57.605 What was it about LA that was calling you? 0:03:58.165 --> 0:04:03.205 Definitely the music industry, just the industry over there. It's 0:04:03.445 --> 0:04:05.605 like no other It's like nowhere else in the world 0:04:05.605 --> 0:04:08.565 that there's that many producers, that many musicians, that many 0:04:09.405 --> 0:04:13.605 like you know, if I'm in in Australia, it's like 0:04:13.645 --> 0:04:17.165 there's no city that's like LA, Like Hollywood is crazy 0:04:17.245 --> 0:04:22.045 over there, and it's so vibrant and it's just everyone's 0:04:22.125 --> 0:04:24.325 over there and everyone's doing it. And I wanted to 0:04:24.925 --> 0:04:27.565 take my career to the next level. And I always thought, 0:04:27.605 --> 0:04:29.165 you know, that was going to be the next step 0:04:29.165 --> 0:04:31.165 for me, is I want to be known as an 0:04:31.285 --> 0:04:35.125 ossie artist, but also UH an artist known in other 0:04:35.245 --> 0:04:37.285 territories rather than just in Australia. 0:04:37.405 --> 0:04:39.845 So the juont and have access to people that you 0:04:39.845 --> 0:04:44.445 can collaborate with and who you yeah, exchange creative juices 0:04:44.525 --> 0:04:45.845 with exactly. 0:04:46.005 --> 0:04:48.725 Yeah, you know, my plan was always to move over 0:04:48.765 --> 0:04:50.125 there at some point. 0:04:50.325 --> 0:04:56.845 So and when you say always, so you are little 0:04:56.965 --> 0:05:03.845 Georgia flip O living in Melbourne. Yep. What was Georgia 0:05:03.885 --> 0:05:07.165 Flippo like as a kid? Yeah? 0:05:07.725 --> 0:05:12.325 I was very extra and like my older sister, was 0:05:12.405 --> 0:05:15.245 quite shy and would hide behind like mum's legs where 0:05:15.245 --> 0:05:18.765 we were anywhere, and I would be I almost needed 0:05:18.765 --> 0:05:22.005 a leash. I would be like sprinting into every room 0:05:22.085 --> 0:05:25.445 and loud, and I was just not afraid. I had 0:05:25.485 --> 0:05:29.725 no fear as a kid, and I definitely had relentless, 0:05:29.965 --> 0:05:31.685 undiagnosed ADHD. 0:05:32.125 --> 0:05:32.445 Right. 0:05:32.525 --> 0:05:35.245 I was like, there's videos of me as a kid 0:05:35.285 --> 0:05:38.525 and it's like, oh, yeah, that kid has ADHD. 0:05:38.085 --> 0:05:40.805 Right, So it seems so apparent now. 0:05:41.125 --> 0:05:45.965 Yes, and just so energetic, and but I really couldn't focus. 0:05:46.005 --> 0:05:47.605 I didn't do very well in school. 0:05:47.725 --> 0:05:50.765 I was put in special like classes and I would 0:05:50.765 --> 0:05:53.885 have to stay back at like lunchtime and recess to 0:05:54.085 --> 0:05:58.285 like learn because I just I really sucked, I feel 0:05:58.325 --> 0:06:02.325 like academically. But then I had niche things that I 0:06:02.405 --> 0:06:06.085 knew everything about. So I had certain things I was 0:06:06.125 --> 0:06:09.125 obsessed with as a kid that I'd know every little 0:06:09.205 --> 0:06:11.805 d detail about till I found music. And then it 0:06:11.885 --> 0:06:14.285 was music that I was obsessed with in drums that 0:06:14.365 --> 0:06:17.565 I wanted to know everything about. And then that took 0:06:17.645 --> 0:06:19.005 me to where I am now. 0:06:19.085 --> 0:06:22.845 And what because your dad was a muso, like amateur muso, 0:06:23.005 --> 0:06:24.965 but enjoyed it enormously. 0:06:26.325 --> 0:06:29.165 Yeah, he always you know, we'd talk about it, and 0:06:29.205 --> 0:06:31.845 he always felt like he was meant to be a 0:06:31.925 --> 0:06:36.125 rock star, but his parents weren't as supportive of that idea. 0:06:36.405 --> 0:06:40.845 So he always you know, supported me. He always supported 0:06:40.885 --> 0:06:43.885 me so much, you know, growing up and playing music 0:06:43.925 --> 0:06:46.045 and we jam in the garage and he drive me 0:06:46.085 --> 0:06:48.245 to all my first gigs as a fourteen year old, 0:06:48.325 --> 0:06:50.325 and he really. 0:06:50.005 --> 0:06:53.405 Backed me with all of it, which is interesting because 0:06:54.045 --> 0:07:00.205 partly the parental thing. I understand, how many rock stars 0:07:00.205 --> 0:07:01.725 can they be in the world, do you know what 0:07:01.805 --> 0:07:05.085 I mean? And what's the likelihood of our kid being 0:07:05.125 --> 0:07:08.445 the rock star? So parents always had this overriding, oh 0:07:08.485 --> 0:07:11.445 you need to make a scene, Joys. But he saw 0:07:11.485 --> 0:07:17.125 something in you recognized obviously the same thing in himself. Yeah, 0:07:17.165 --> 0:07:21.405 And where did the drums come from? The drums? 0:07:21.565 --> 0:07:24.925 So my drums was my first instrument in my first love. 0:07:25.165 --> 0:07:26.885 I got my first drum kit when I was nine 0:07:26.965 --> 0:07:30.285 years old from my auntie and uncle because my cousin 0:07:30.325 --> 0:07:32.925 played drums and as a nine year old or eight 0:07:33.045 --> 0:07:35.445 year old, seven eight year old, I was obsessed with 0:07:35.525 --> 0:07:38.445 his drum kit. So on my ninth birthday, I got 0:07:38.485 --> 0:07:41.285 a little drum kit for my birthday and it was 0:07:42.005 --> 0:07:44.405 one of the greatest days of my life. And I 0:07:44.485 --> 0:07:47.165 remember they hid it in the lounde room of my 0:07:47.245 --> 0:07:51.765 grandma's house and unveiled it to me, and I remember 0:07:51.885 --> 0:07:55.005 my eyes just like popping out of my head. 0:07:55.085 --> 0:07:59.525 I was that excited about it. And because I imagine 0:07:59.605 --> 0:08:02.685 that was the greatest day of your life and maybe 0:08:02.725 --> 0:08:05.605 for a period the worst day in the neighbor's life. 0:08:06.085 --> 0:08:12.365 Oh when a drum kit arise in in Yanana's house. 0:08:13.245 --> 0:08:18.525 Yes, I've never had a neighbor that likes me until 0:08:18.685 --> 0:08:22.565 I guess the last two years at Chrischelle's moving into 0:08:22.885 --> 0:08:27.965 Krishelle's house. But every other neighbor has hated me with 0:08:28.045 --> 0:08:28.725 a passion. 0:08:29.325 --> 0:08:32.965 Yes, because it's a I mean, it's not it's not 0:08:33.125 --> 0:08:36.525 something that you can do silently, is it. No, it's 0:08:36.645 --> 0:08:37.125 really not. 0:08:38.285 --> 0:08:41.205 And you can get like you get an electric drum kit, 0:08:41.285 --> 0:08:44.805 but it's not the same. So yeah, my neighbor growing up, 0:08:45.085 --> 0:08:48.605 he hated me, like hated me, hate. 0:08:49.005 --> 0:08:52.205 He would still be angry about me. Oh like really, 0:08:52.765 --> 0:08:54.725 And do you see that neighbor even now. 0:08:55.405 --> 0:08:58.245 No, he moved out when I kind of moved out 0:08:58.365 --> 0:08:58.885 of home. 0:08:59.125 --> 0:09:04.485 So yeah, oh that's annoying. That's really annoying because you 0:09:04.525 --> 0:09:08.085 want that kind of you want that redemption arc where 0:09:08.125 --> 0:09:11.445 you come into on the tray truck that you're playing 0:09:11.485 --> 0:09:14.405 in your new film clip and the neighbors just got 0:09:14.445 --> 0:09:15.805 up suck it up. 0:09:16.285 --> 0:09:19.085 Yeah, No, I hope sometimes I think about when my 0:09:19.885 --> 0:09:23.165 tour poster is around on buses or I hope he 0:09:23.245 --> 0:09:25.525 sees it. He's like some people are like, I hope 0:09:25.525 --> 0:09:27.525 my ex sees my face, but I'm like, I hope 0:09:27.565 --> 0:09:29.005 that neighbor growing up sees me. 0:09:30.085 --> 0:09:34.125 It's a very interesting thing because I think things seem 0:09:34.445 --> 0:09:36.765 in retrospect. If you look back, you're like, oh, that 0:09:36.885 --> 0:09:40.085 was my pathway, and my pathway was quite clear. It's 0:09:40.165 --> 0:09:44.525 lead you to here. Yes, when you were a kid, 0:09:45.085 --> 0:09:47.805 what did you see for yourself. 0:09:48.245 --> 0:09:51.485 When I was a kid, So my first like, I think, 0:09:51.525 --> 0:09:54.645 it wasn't until I was I got my drums. Before 0:09:54.685 --> 0:09:57.085 I got my drums, I was obsessed with cars, and 0:09:57.125 --> 0:09:57.605 I wanted to. 0:09:57.605 --> 0:09:59.965 Be a taxi driver. And then I got my drums. 0:10:00.885 --> 0:10:04.085 And then when I got my drums, everything changed and 0:10:04.125 --> 0:10:06.165 I wanted to be a. 0:10:06.165 --> 0:10:07.565 Rock star or in a band. 0:10:08.125 --> 0:10:11.525 But I also thought maybe I wanted to get into acting. 0:10:12.365 --> 0:10:15.245 And then I also wanted to be a singer. So 0:10:15.645 --> 0:10:17.845 there was all these different things. But I never got 0:10:17.925 --> 0:10:20.685 singing lessons ever. I only ever had drum. 0:10:20.525 --> 0:10:23.765 Lesson And so you thought, I mean, when did you 0:10:23.845 --> 0:10:26.725 let the dream of being a taxi driver go? Wow? 0:10:27.805 --> 0:10:30.405 I know, I think when I was when I got 0:10:30.405 --> 0:10:33.125 my drums. I think when I was like nine years old. 0:10:33.205 --> 0:10:35.725 Then the taxi driver went away. I just was obsessed 0:10:35.725 --> 0:10:38.085 with cars as a kid. I knew every make and model. 0:10:38.125 --> 0:10:43.205 I'd research, you know, what fuel injection each model would have, 0:10:43.245 --> 0:10:45.565 and what alloy wheels would come with each model, and 0:10:45.605 --> 0:10:47.285 like all I wanted to do on a weekend is 0:10:47.325 --> 0:10:48.645 go to car yards with my dad. 0:10:48.685 --> 0:10:50.285 It was this weird obsession I had. 0:10:50.725 --> 0:10:54.285 Wow, a taxi driver, and then yeah, I got drums, 0:10:54.325 --> 0:10:56.165 and then I think it started to form that I 0:10:56.205 --> 0:10:58.005 wanted to be a musician, which is. 0:10:58.005 --> 0:11:01.805 Just as well, because I mean, AI hasn't overtaken the 0:11:01.885 --> 0:11:04.365 skill of a drama yet, but there is a thing 0:11:04.405 --> 0:11:07.565 called Uber that has meant that a lot of taxi drivers, 0:11:08.445 --> 0:11:11.605 I'm not leaving their destiny that they drink for themselves. 0:11:12.085 --> 0:11:16.485 Yeah, yeah, you know, I still love driving cars. You know, 0:11:16.605 --> 0:11:18.965 maybe later in life I'll become an Uber drum My 0:11:19.405 --> 0:11:22.525 stepdad's an Uber driver, So yeah, you never know. 0:11:23.245 --> 0:11:28.365 And so when you talk to drumming, did you allow 0:11:28.525 --> 0:11:34.045 yourself to project a future in which that was going 0:11:34.125 --> 0:11:34.805 to be your life? 0:11:35.845 --> 0:11:38.085 Yeah, it was always in me, and I like really 0:11:38.125 --> 0:11:40.605 fell in love with drums, and I had this passion. 0:11:40.645 --> 0:11:42.565 It was the only thing that I could stay still 0:11:42.605 --> 0:11:45.045 and do. I couldn't really stay still and do anything 0:11:45.445 --> 0:11:48.485 but drums. I would sit there for hours. And then 0:11:48.525 --> 0:11:52.685 it wasn't until I met my drum teacher in year seven, 0:11:53.205 --> 0:11:56.245 Jenny Rose Morrish, who was like to me, like the 0:11:56.245 --> 0:11:58.645 coolest person and I wanted to be exactly like them. 0:11:58.685 --> 0:12:00.965 They were like the coolest cheek and played in a 0:12:01.045 --> 0:12:05.725 band and sang backing vocals. And then having her as 0:12:05.765 --> 0:12:08.325 my teacher, I feel like when your brain is like 0:12:08.445 --> 0:12:12.445 forming at those like early teenage years and you're figuring 0:12:12.445 --> 0:12:14.205 yourself out and what your dreams are going to be 0:12:14.245 --> 0:12:15.565 and what you want to be when you're older, and 0:12:15.565 --> 0:12:18.165 who you want to look up to. She really became 0:12:18.285 --> 0:12:22.525 my person who I wanted to be exactly like. And 0:12:22.925 --> 0:12:25.165 so she was a drummer in a band, so I 0:12:25.205 --> 0:12:26.285 wanted to be a drummer. 0:12:27.045 --> 0:12:30.845 Those people are so important. And if you're a kid 0:12:31.005 --> 0:12:34.885 that is a little bit different, or probably any kid really, 0:12:35.045 --> 0:12:37.085 but especially if you're a kid that feels a bit different, 0:12:38.405 --> 0:12:40.965 all it takes is one person to see you and 0:12:41.005 --> 0:12:45.565 to see the complete you that you can't even necessarily 0:12:45.645 --> 0:12:46.925 see yourself at the time. 0:12:47.445 --> 0:12:52.165 Yeah, to change everything one hundred and definitely. Jenny was 0:12:52.165 --> 0:12:54.925 that for me and that I think drums took me 0:12:54.965 --> 0:12:57.925 on a path, and then Jenny just like solidified that 0:12:57.965 --> 0:13:01.165 path and then it never it never ended, and. 0:13:01.085 --> 0:13:03.045 Then she wanted what for you? 0:13:04.325 --> 0:13:07.845 So she after high school did a Bachelor of Music 0:13:08.005 --> 0:13:10.725 and made it in percussion, and I wanted to do 0:13:10.765 --> 0:13:12.845 the exact same course as her because I wanted to 0:13:12.885 --> 0:13:15.565 do everything she did. So I wanted to study music 0:13:15.605 --> 0:13:19.565 and major in drums. And she helped me with my 0:13:19.685 --> 0:13:24.525 auditions to get into you need it to study music, 0:13:24.765 --> 0:13:27.565 and then I got in and then not too long 0:13:27.565 --> 0:13:32.605 after that, she passed away. And then I kind of 0:13:33.205 --> 0:13:36.445 remember wanting to go on a mission to fulfill everything 0:13:36.525 --> 0:13:40.845 that we talked about growing up and like her us 0:13:40.885 --> 0:13:44.845 in the practice room in high school, because she taught 0:13:44.845 --> 0:13:47.165 me for my whole high school. We talk about how 0:13:47.165 --> 0:13:48.605 we're going to tour the world and we're going to 0:13:48.605 --> 0:13:50.405 see America and we're going to live on a tour 0:13:50.485 --> 0:13:53.405 bus and we're going to do this and all the 0:13:53.405 --> 0:13:56.885 coolest things. So when she passed away, it was like really, 0:13:57.045 --> 0:14:00.365 it really hit me, like holy shit, like I want 0:14:00.365 --> 0:14:02.645 to go do everything that we talked about, you know. 0:14:03.045 --> 0:14:06.805 The day that you got into your course, which those 0:14:06.965 --> 0:14:12.645 auditions are intense. Yeah, like many are called, but few 0:14:12.645 --> 0:14:17.005 were chosen. Yes. Who was the first person that you 0:14:17.085 --> 0:14:18.085 called when you got in? 0:14:19.005 --> 0:14:24.045 Ah, I think I got an email, So I remember 0:14:24.205 --> 0:14:27.805 like screaming at home and then yeah, texting Jenny because 0:14:28.525 --> 0:14:32.645 we went through all the drum pieces together and like, 0:14:33.285 --> 0:14:34.765 and I knew I was going to get in because 0:14:34.765 --> 0:14:38.045 I practiced so hard, like I was so ready for it. 0:14:38.445 --> 0:14:41.125 But yeah, Jenny and then my family who were home 0:14:41.165 --> 0:14:44.405 because I just wanted to get into that course because 0:14:44.445 --> 0:14:48.165 it was based not on academics so ye, which I 0:14:48.325 --> 0:14:52.805 wasn't good at. So yeah, I was like. 0:14:52.205 --> 0:14:57.245 I really really wanted to get in there and study music. 0:14:57.325 --> 0:15:02.005 And then during that course is when I realized that 0:15:02.205 --> 0:15:07.445 I would always sing backing vocals. But there was this 0:15:07.765 --> 0:15:11.965 one class we had where there was too many drummers 0:15:12.005 --> 0:15:15.685 and not enough singers. So I put my hand up 0:15:15.725 --> 0:15:19.005 to be the lead singer. When I was I think 0:15:19.045 --> 0:15:23.765 I was like at nineteen or twenty, and I sang 0:15:24.005 --> 0:15:30.805 James Brown and the university thought I was really good 0:15:30.885 --> 0:15:33.365 that they asked me if I wanted to move over 0:15:33.445 --> 0:15:36.605 to the singing course and the drumming course, And that 0:15:36.765 --> 0:15:41.445 was kind of the first taste that I that I 0:15:41.565 --> 0:15:43.805 just didn't know. 0:15:43.405 --> 0:15:45.245 I didn't know I could sing well. 0:15:45.565 --> 0:15:48.005 And then that really gave me the confidence because I've 0:15:48.005 --> 0:15:51.165 never had a lesson, so that gave me the confidence 0:15:51.325 --> 0:15:52.045 to be like. 0:15:52.285 --> 0:15:56.645 Oh, maybe I'm an alright singer. I guess that's interesting 0:15:56.725 --> 0:16:00.365 because when I first heard about you, I was living 0:16:00.405 --> 0:16:03.085 in Italy, and in fact it was our mutual friend 0:16:03.125 --> 0:16:05.805 Pete Hellier who told me about it. Oh yeah, my 0:16:05.925 --> 0:16:11.925 Collingwood brother. Yeah, you're college Wood brother. Haha. But I 0:16:12.125 --> 0:16:16.605 was at the time thinking I don't really know many 0:16:16.805 --> 0:16:22.205 singing drummers. I knew Cram from Spider Back. Yes, love Cram, Yeah, 0:16:22.325 --> 0:16:26.485 and that because it's not really a very common model. 0:16:27.485 --> 0:16:28.605 No it's not. 0:16:28.725 --> 0:16:30.565 And growing up, Cram was one of the first people 0:16:30.605 --> 0:16:31.765 I saw drumming and singing. 0:16:31.925 --> 0:16:33.565 Oh really Yeah. 0:16:33.605 --> 0:16:35.605 And now he's a buddy of mine and we've played 0:16:35.725 --> 0:16:37.685 some shows together, but he was kind of the first 0:16:37.685 --> 0:16:41.245 person I ever saw on TV singing and drumming, and 0:16:41.285 --> 0:16:44.645 that really opened up my eyes, and especially because Jenny 0:16:44.685 --> 0:16:49.245 did backing vocals, then it made me learn and then we. 0:16:49.205 --> 0:16:50.885 Used to practice. Jenny taught me. 0:16:51.325 --> 0:16:54.485 She'd make me drum and then have a conversation with her, 0:16:54.565 --> 0:16:58.165 so I could put my body on autopilot and she'd 0:16:58.405 --> 0:17:00.005 asked me questions. 0:17:00.205 --> 0:17:04.525 Right, which means that later on, when you're singing, yeah, 0:17:04.605 --> 0:17:07.125 you can drum and the lyrics will come. 0:17:08.165 --> 0:17:11.445 Yeah, it just puts my body. My body's always on autopilot. 0:17:11.805 --> 0:17:14.365 And basically all I'm thinking about is the singing and 0:17:14.605 --> 0:17:18.965 remembering lyrics. My body is on autopilot. And because Jenny 0:17:18.965 --> 0:17:21.405 taught me that from a young age, I used to 0:17:21.485 --> 0:17:25.805 just drum while my brain's just thinking about answering questions 0:17:25.805 --> 0:17:29.365 that she's asking me. So that split my brain kind 0:17:29.405 --> 0:17:30.605 of into. 0:17:30.285 --> 0:17:34.525 And for the ADHD that would actually be really good. Yeah. 0:17:34.805 --> 0:17:37.925 I love doing multiple things at once because my brain 0:17:38.005 --> 0:17:40.325 how it works is I've got like a tab open 0:17:40.365 --> 0:17:43.285 of like ten files in my brain that is thinking 0:17:43.325 --> 0:17:48.325 all the time. So yeah it yeah, But CRAM and 0:17:49.205 --> 0:17:52.405 Yeah inspired me a lot, and then yeah, I just 0:17:52.445 --> 0:17:54.125 started writing my own music. 0:17:54.245 --> 0:17:58.485 Then do you think that Jenny saw you? So she 0:17:58.685 --> 0:18:01.165 saw the musical side of you. But that's a very 0:18:01.205 --> 0:18:06.565 intimate relationship between a teacher who's taught you so much. Yes, 0:18:06.805 --> 0:18:11.285 and like I said, sees the entire of you. What 0:18:11.525 --> 0:18:15.645 did she say of you? When it comes to gender 0:18:16.005 --> 0:18:16.965 do you think. 0:18:19.045 --> 0:18:24.725 I think with gender back then, it wasn't in our vocabulary, 0:18:24.765 --> 0:18:27.845 it wasn't talked about, Like not being non binary wasn't 0:18:28.365 --> 0:18:32.245 really a thing then, but being like queer and like 0:18:32.365 --> 0:18:37.085 being a lesbian. I think she definitely saw me because 0:18:37.085 --> 0:18:39.245 she said. I remember her saying something to me when 0:18:39.245 --> 0:18:42.325 I was like I'm going to say like fourteen or something. 0:18:43.125 --> 0:18:47.165 She's like, she said something like, one day when you're older, 0:18:47.285 --> 0:18:51.285 like you'll figure out like who you truly are and 0:18:51.325 --> 0:18:53.685 it's going to be so magical for you. Said something 0:18:53.685 --> 0:18:57.365 in like in those words, and I always remember it, 0:18:57.405 --> 0:18:59.885 and I always remember being like, what did she mean? 0:19:00.005 --> 0:19:04.005 And then it wasn't until later that like I first 0:19:04.125 --> 0:19:06.925 got with a woman for the first time, that I 0:19:07.005 --> 0:19:10.765 was like, man, like Jenny knew me so like she 0:19:11.005 --> 0:19:13.725 and she also said. I remember her saying, I don't 0:19:13.725 --> 0:19:15.765 know what you're going to do with your life, but 0:19:15.845 --> 0:19:18.445 it's going to be it's going to be something like 0:19:19.245 --> 0:19:21.445 and it makes me like tear up when I think about. 0:19:21.285 --> 0:19:23.525 Because it's like, oh my god. So I really feel 0:19:23.565 --> 0:19:25.045 like she's like a guardian name do it to me 0:19:25.165 --> 0:19:30.005 or something like that. Yeah, well she is, yeah, yeah 0:19:30.045 --> 0:19:32.765 she is. And she was and she is because I 0:19:32.805 --> 0:19:36.645 think when you have a relationship like that, the energy 0:19:36.685 --> 0:19:42.445 of it stays with you. Yeah, and now you're carrying 0:19:42.525 --> 0:19:49.685 her dreams as well. Yeah, like beyond beyond I would 0:19:49.725 --> 0:19:53.445 think imagining. Did you imagine stuff for yourself? 0:19:56.245 --> 0:20:00.005 Yeah? I always like it's almost like I was delusional, 0:20:00.245 --> 0:20:03.965 Like I really thought every everything was possible. I thought like, 0:20:04.365 --> 0:20:06.325 if I wanted a drum for the biggest artists in 0:20:06.325 --> 0:20:09.045 the world, like I can figure out a way to 0:20:09.085 --> 0:20:12.565 make that happen. Like I always thought everything was possible, 0:20:12.685 --> 0:20:17.205 Like there was never anything that I thought wasn't possible. 0:20:17.205 --> 0:20:19.245 And I don't know where I got that from, and 0:20:19.285 --> 0:20:22.765 I don't know how that happened, but that's always how 0:20:22.765 --> 0:20:28.805 my brain operated. So when it came to me deciding 0:20:28.885 --> 0:20:31.805 to stop playing drums for other people, because I did 0:20:31.805 --> 0:20:34.245 that for a while, playing drums for other bands, and 0:20:34.285 --> 0:20:37.805 when I really decided to change gears and that I'm 0:20:37.805 --> 0:20:39.845 going to go for being a solo artist now, because 0:20:39.845 --> 0:20:41.485 it was always kind of knocking at me in the 0:20:41.525 --> 0:20:43.565 back of my head, being like, you should be a 0:20:43.605 --> 0:20:46.085 solo artist, you should be a solo artist. But I 0:20:46.125 --> 0:20:48.445 was always kind of hiding behind the drums and playing 0:20:48.445 --> 0:20:49.685 for other bands. 0:20:49.405 --> 0:20:53.645 And session is session is like dreams for some people 0:20:53.885 --> 0:20:58.445 as well, Like there's no shame in that. No, No, 0:20:58.725 --> 0:21:02.685 you had the calling. What did that feel like? That calling? 0:21:03.805 --> 0:21:06.645 I just remember when I was like fourteen fifteen, so 0:21:06.685 --> 0:21:09.165 I always played drums, but then I started teaching myself 0:21:09.325 --> 0:21:13.725 guitar and piano, and i'd run, I'd run home from 0:21:13.765 --> 0:21:17.325 the school bus and before my family all came home, 0:21:17.725 --> 0:21:20.245 I just want alone time so I could write songs. 0:21:20.725 --> 0:21:22.285 And I'd play on. 0:21:22.165 --> 0:21:26.245 My little shitty cassio keyboard and my first little guitar, 0:21:26.285 --> 0:21:29.245 and I'd just write songs. And I remember delusionally thinking 0:21:29.805 --> 0:21:32.685 like these songs are so good, like I am such 0:21:32.725 --> 0:21:36.285 a good songwriter, and they would be horrible songs, but 0:21:36.365 --> 0:21:41.805 I remember the delusionalness in my brain being like encouraging 0:21:41.885 --> 0:21:44.845 me made me thought that I was a really, really 0:21:44.965 --> 0:21:46.045 talented songwriter. 0:21:46.205 --> 0:21:48.045 And I was like, these are such good songs, They're 0:21:48.085 --> 0:21:48.645 so catchy. 0:21:49.165 --> 0:21:51.765 And then that kept carrying on, and while I was 0:21:51.805 --> 0:21:55.605 playing drums for other people, I was always writing songs 0:21:56.125 --> 0:21:59.285 and then teaching myself how to produce music and record music. 0:21:59.845 --> 0:22:03.445 So always in my head it was like, oh, it's 0:22:03.485 --> 0:22:06.445 also the band I was playing with. We couldn't share 0:22:06.525 --> 0:22:09.445 song ideas. It was just his songs, So then I 0:22:09.485 --> 0:22:12.125 couldn't have input with. 0:22:12.205 --> 0:22:14.125 Your brilliant songs that you were writing. 0:22:14.485 --> 0:22:18.805 Yeah, so yeah, it was always when that band, the 0:22:18.885 --> 0:22:21.525 last band I played for, finish, then it was like, 0:22:22.685 --> 0:22:26.085 I think it's time to do this solo thing. And 0:22:26.725 --> 0:22:28.405 you know the way that my brain works is like 0:22:28.445 --> 0:22:31.565 it's always possible, so we'll figure out how to get there. 0:22:32.365 --> 0:22:37.725 It's funny you say delusional, but you weren't delusional. 0:22:38.405 --> 0:22:41.725 Yeah, but I think it's at the I find a 0:22:41.765 --> 0:22:45.485 lot of people that I've met that have, I don't know, 0:22:45.685 --> 0:22:50.205 become successful musicians. It's this crazy belief we have in 0:22:50.285 --> 0:22:53.485 ourselves when we haven't even sharpened our skills yet. Like 0:22:54.125 --> 0:22:57.485 when those like I used to think then that, oh yeah, 0:22:57.525 --> 0:23:01.245 I'm going to be a super successful artist. But my 0:23:01.365 --> 0:23:05.245 skills like I could barely sing, like could barely rock 0:23:05.285 --> 0:23:08.045 a guitar solo, Like, my skills weren't sharpened. And now 0:23:08.045 --> 0:23:09.925 that I'm older, I can IDENTI to buy that and 0:23:09.925 --> 0:23:13.405 look back and be like man like the confidence I had. 0:23:13.485 --> 0:23:19.005 The confidence was insane, and I was never outwardly arrogant 0:23:19.045 --> 0:23:19.405 about it. 0:23:19.445 --> 0:23:20.605 I never told anyone this. 0:23:20.725 --> 0:23:24.045 I always kept it as my little secret that I 0:23:24.085 --> 0:23:25.605 wanted to be a solo artist. 0:23:25.645 --> 0:23:33.165 I never shared it with anyone. Coming up after the break, 0:23:33.245 --> 0:23:36.445 g Flip recalls the moment they went from music teacher 0:23:36.925 --> 0:23:42.645 to music artist overnight. You knew that you were going 0:23:42.685 --> 0:23:45.645 to get into. Was it the conservatorium? Yeah it was. 0:23:45.845 --> 0:23:48.445 It was a Bachelor of Music majoring in drums. 0:23:48.885 --> 0:23:51.285 Now you said when you were talking about that, you 0:23:51.405 --> 0:23:53.765 knew you were going to get in because you'd worked 0:23:54.005 --> 0:23:59.565 so hard. Yes, Now, I reckon that's a through line, 0:23:59.605 --> 0:24:03.325 and that's the divide between people that might have some 0:24:03.445 --> 0:24:08.765 delulu notion about what they want for their future. Yeah, 0:24:08.885 --> 0:24:14.725 versus what makes that happen. Yeah, and your work ethic 0:24:15.005 --> 0:24:19.325 is phenomenal. Thank you. Yeah. 0:24:19.485 --> 0:24:22.445 I do work a lot. I don't know how to 0:24:22.485 --> 0:24:25.885 not work. Actually, it's more it's kind of unhealthy. But Yeah, 0:24:25.965 --> 0:24:31.325 even with those auditions, I would practice, rehearse everything that 0:24:31.325 --> 0:24:34.445 they were going to even ask me. So I'd thought 0:24:34.445 --> 0:24:37.965 about every possible question they could ask me. So I 0:24:38.005 --> 0:24:43.325 had rehearsed, sharp, perfected answers. And even when i'd audition 0:24:43.445 --> 0:24:46.685 for bands, you'd have to audition three songs. I'd learn 0:24:46.765 --> 0:24:51.565 their entire catalog just in case and backing vocals, so 0:24:51.605 --> 0:24:54.365 that when I go into an audition, I could be like, Hey, 0:24:54.405 --> 0:24:56.845 you've played those three songs all day. How about we 0:24:56.885 --> 0:24:58.925 played this song or that song or that song. So 0:24:59.525 --> 0:25:04.005 I think for me, I've always over prepared like so 0:25:04.005 --> 0:25:07.565 so so much that it's like, if I did an audition, 0:25:07.765 --> 0:25:11.005 like it'd be really hard to turn down. So even 0:25:11.085 --> 0:25:16.525 with my career, I did absolutely just everything possible. So 0:25:16.925 --> 0:25:19.565 it felt like I'd open the door in so many 0:25:19.645 --> 0:25:22.725 avenues that at least one of the routes is going 0:25:22.805 --> 0:25:23.125 to work. 0:25:23.325 --> 0:25:27.045 Because I always think there's so many ways to fuck 0:25:27.125 --> 0:25:29.965 yourself up, and there's so many ways that the external 0:25:30.005 --> 0:25:32.885 world can trip you up as well. You don't need 0:25:32.925 --> 0:25:38.365 to trip yourself up through lack of preparation. No, no, yeah, 0:25:38.405 --> 0:25:42.205 And at what point did you go did you start 0:25:42.245 --> 0:25:46.445 to feel the momentum of all of that coming together. 0:25:46.965 --> 0:25:52.885 So you're singing, you're drumming, you've got the call to America. 0:25:55.485 --> 0:25:59.285 Was there a moment where you went, oh, I think 0:26:00.405 --> 0:26:01.925 I think g Flip's going to do this. 0:26:02.405 --> 0:26:07.525 I think, yeah, there was definitely one defining moment. 0:26:07.805 --> 0:26:12.085 So after I. 0:26:10.485 --> 0:26:15.205 Left that last band, I gave myself one year to 0:26:16.565 --> 0:26:20.085 basically find management or a label, and I had no 0:26:20.165 --> 0:26:24.765 connections in the Australian music scene. But I gave myself 0:26:25.725 --> 0:26:28.365 about a year to figure it out. 0:26:28.605 --> 0:26:29.925 So I made Excel. 0:26:29.605 --> 0:26:32.805 Spreadsheets of the whole music industry in Australia. I had 0:26:33.125 --> 0:26:38.685 everyone's details from Triple J, all the booking agents, Spotify, playlisters, 0:26:38.725 --> 0:26:41.925 and I made this insane spreadsheet of the whole music industry. 0:26:42.485 --> 0:26:46.445 And then I would I was just I was so relentless. 0:26:46.485 --> 0:26:48.525 I was just insane, and I wanted to write my 0:26:48.605 --> 0:26:50.925 hit list of who I wanted to be, my publicist 0:26:50.925 --> 0:26:54.165 and my booking agent. And then I wrote as many 0:26:54.325 --> 0:26:57.525 wrote and produced as many songs in my bedroom and 0:26:57.565 --> 0:26:58.525 it's all I thought about. 0:26:58.525 --> 0:26:59.005 For a year. 0:26:59.045 --> 0:27:01.325 I went sober, I didn't really see my friends. All 0:27:01.365 --> 0:27:03.285 my friends would come over on the weekend and help 0:27:03.565 --> 0:27:04.845 me make my spreadsheets. 0:27:05.445 --> 0:27:07.765 I was very cute of them crafting. 0:27:08.725 --> 0:27:13.005 And then it was I started going to all these 0:27:14.165 --> 0:27:16.765 in the Australian music scene. They have like Music Week 0:27:16.765 --> 0:27:19.645 in Melbourne, and they have Music Week in Sydney, and 0:27:19.685 --> 0:27:23.525 you go listen to managers and labels talk about the 0:27:23.605 --> 0:27:26.485 industry and I would go there, and my whole plan 0:27:26.645 --> 0:27:29.365 was that I'm going to talk to that manager afterwards 0:27:29.365 --> 0:27:31.085 and give him my demos, and I'm going to talk 0:27:31.125 --> 0:27:33.645 to that booking agent and learn more about the industry. 0:27:33.645 --> 0:27:35.725 And I was just so obsessed with it. 0:27:36.245 --> 0:27:39.645 And then this one manager I walked up and said, Hey, 0:27:40.125 --> 0:27:40.965 you should listen. 0:27:40.725 --> 0:27:41.445 To my demos. 0:27:41.685 --> 0:27:45.085 I'm like Dave Grohl from Nirvana, played drums in a band, 0:27:45.085 --> 0:27:46.725 but now I'm a lead singer and I write the 0:27:46.805 --> 0:27:49.245 music and you're going to love my demos if you 0:27:49.285 --> 0:27:51.325 give me a shot, just have a listen. And he 0:27:51.485 --> 0:27:53.725 looked at me and said, your confidence is so crazy. 0:27:53.765 --> 0:27:55.685 I'm actually going to listen to your demos. And then 0:27:56.165 --> 0:27:58.845 he listened to the demos and then sent me a 0:27:58.885 --> 0:28:02.645 message and said, hey, come to my office Monday morning. 0:28:03.525 --> 0:28:10.085 And then I remember just driving my car and calling 0:28:10.165 --> 0:28:13.885 my dad and being like holy shit, like holy shit. 0:28:14.005 --> 0:28:17.325 And I'd worked the whole year to the point and 0:28:17.365 --> 0:28:20.605 I got my database and I was about to blast 0:28:20.685 --> 0:28:25.405 email everyone but my demos, but then that one manager 0:28:25.645 --> 0:28:28.285 heard it first, and then he wanted to sign me 0:28:28.445 --> 0:28:31.645 for management and label. So then I took his name 0:28:31.805 --> 0:28:34.765 and then I messaged as many people as I could 0:28:35.205 --> 0:28:37.765 in the Australian music industry and said he wants to 0:28:37.805 --> 0:28:41.125 sign me, so you should listen to my demos. And 0:28:41.165 --> 0:28:45.245 then everyone that I sent them listened to my demos. 0:28:45.245 --> 0:28:47.645 And then I just got to meet heaps of different 0:28:47.645 --> 0:28:50.685 people in the music industry and kind of pick my. 0:28:50.925 --> 0:28:53.045 Turn yourself into a bidding war. 0:28:53.445 --> 0:28:59.445 I did, yeah, Wow, yeah, and then that all happened. 0:28:59.445 --> 0:29:02.405 And at the same time I had my first single 0:29:02.485 --> 0:29:05.045 about You that and I was obsessed with Triple J 0:29:05.205 --> 0:29:09.445 on Earth, this platform, and I was a super yu. 0:29:09.645 --> 0:29:12.125 I was so obsessed with that I would write reviews 0:29:12.165 --> 0:29:14.205 because I knew at some stage I'm going to have 0:29:14.245 --> 0:29:16.605 a single and I want to have a direct contact 0:29:16.645 --> 0:29:19.885 that I can give my song to them. Because this 0:29:20.005 --> 0:29:21.845 was about this is how my brain works. I wanted 0:29:21.885 --> 0:29:26.205 every avenue to work, so even the Triple J thing, 0:29:26.285 --> 0:29:29.605 I was a super user. And then Max Quinn I 0:29:29.685 --> 0:29:32.765 had his email and this doesn't mean that you get 0:29:32.805 --> 0:29:34.725 on the air, but it means you just have the 0:29:34.765 --> 0:29:36.885 email of the guy that works at Triple Jay on 0:29:36.925 --> 0:29:39.685 Earth for me to just send him and be like, hey, 0:29:39.725 --> 0:29:43.765 I uploaded a song today. And then it was this 0:29:43.965 --> 0:29:47.605 was the day that to answer your question that I 0:29:47.645 --> 0:29:50.725 remember everything feeling like, holy shit, I think it's going 0:29:50.805 --> 0:29:51.245 to work. 0:29:51.445 --> 0:29:53.285 Is that song. 0:29:55.085 --> 0:29:58.285 That I uploaded to Triple Jay on Earth blew Up 0:29:58.285 --> 0:30:00.885 and then went on the air on Triple j and 0:30:00.965 --> 0:30:06.125 started going psycho online. And then I remember going to 0:30:06.165 --> 0:30:09.925 bed that night, And I've documented all of this, actually, 0:30:10.045 --> 0:30:10.885 all of this story. 0:30:10.925 --> 0:30:13.805 I'm telling you, I'm not surprised. Yeah, there's real. 0:30:13.645 --> 0:30:16.645 Life videos of me talking about it, but I have 0:30:16.725 --> 0:30:18.565 a video of me going to sleep that night and 0:30:18.605 --> 0:30:21.205 being like, holy shit. I don't think I'm going to 0:30:21.325 --> 0:30:24.525 have to, you know, teach drum lessons anymore. And I 0:30:24.525 --> 0:30:26.405 don't think I'm going to have to hand out pamphlets 0:30:26.405 --> 0:30:30.005 at Rod Laver Arena anymore. Like I think I think 0:30:30.045 --> 0:30:32.245 I've made it. Even though it was just the first 0:30:32.685 --> 0:30:35.125 I just got a spin, but it just made me 0:30:35.165 --> 0:30:38.285 think that, oh, I think I'm going to be okay 0:30:38.365 --> 0:30:40.365 here and I'm going to be able to do this 0:30:40.445 --> 0:30:41.645 for the rest of my life. 0:30:41.805 --> 0:30:46.045 So did you send a little preyer up to Jenny 0:30:45.565 --> 0:30:48.525 at that time? Yeah, definitely. 0:30:48.765 --> 0:30:51.765 Obviously, Jenny's always in the back of my head, and 0:30:52.765 --> 0:30:55.125 when the song came out, it was actually. 0:30:56.925 --> 0:31:01.925 It was on her birthday. Oh really yeah, oh really 0:31:02.405 --> 0:31:02.725 see that. 0:31:03.525 --> 0:31:06.365 I get these two confused when she passed ords on 0:31:06.405 --> 0:31:12.365 her birthday, but those dates, yeah, that was pretty special. 0:31:12.445 --> 0:31:17.405 And yeah, and then I just woke up and then 0:31:17.445 --> 0:31:20.085 everything changed and I had to message all because I 0:31:20.125 --> 0:31:23.325 was teaching drum students in my bedroom and I had 0:31:23.325 --> 0:31:25.485 to message them all and say, I'm so sorry I 0:31:25.485 --> 0:31:28.125 won't be able to teach all of you anymore. 0:31:28.445 --> 0:31:32.125 Well you dragged them straight away. Yeah, my life changed 0:31:32.165 --> 0:31:35.685 the next day. Wow. And like when you say changed, 0:31:36.005 --> 0:31:43.285 what did that look like? Gigs or appointments or sessions. 0:31:43.685 --> 0:31:46.725 So my song went viral online and it hadn't even 0:31:46.765 --> 0:31:48.845 been released yet. It was just on Triple J on 0:31:48.885 --> 0:31:51.845 the website, so it wasn't even a release song. I 0:31:51.885 --> 0:31:56.165 just uploaded it to the website platform. But overnight it 0:31:56.205 --> 0:32:00.725 went global and it became Pitchfork's Best New Song, which 0:32:00.765 --> 0:32:03.645 is like a big deal in the US. And then 0:32:03.885 --> 0:32:08.165 I started getting gig offers at south By Southwest in Texas, 0:32:08.605 --> 0:32:12.245 which was which was in two weeks time, So I 0:32:12.285 --> 0:32:15.325 had two weeks to find a band and then play 0:32:15.405 --> 0:32:19.165 my first show, which luckily I'm such a freak, and 0:32:19.205 --> 0:32:22.365 I prepared my whole entire show already, So I was 0:32:22.445 --> 0:32:25.965 ready for that exact moment, because if I hadn't planned 0:32:26.005 --> 0:32:27.925 it all out first, I would have been in trouble. 0:32:27.965 --> 0:32:31.565 But I already had my show and my band members 0:32:31.965 --> 0:32:35.525 and thought exactly about what my live show would be. 0:32:35.645 --> 0:32:37.845 So then two weeks later from there, I was in 0:32:37.885 --> 0:32:40.725 the States and playing my very first show. 0:32:40.965 --> 0:32:44.205 And that was that, your first time in the States. No, 0:32:44.365 --> 0:32:47.405 I'd been in the States before drumming for other bands, right, 0:32:47.765 --> 0:32:49.445 but in your own right. 0:32:50.165 --> 0:32:54.845 Yeah, the first time being g G Flip And then yeah, 0:32:54.845 --> 0:32:59.125 I had my first show as g Flip and yeah, 0:32:59.405 --> 0:33:01.165 then it began and it never stopped. 0:33:02.005 --> 0:33:06.765 No, it never stopped. And then concurrently with that, because 0:33:06.765 --> 0:33:12.045 I do believe that when as an artist, particularly, the 0:33:12.045 --> 0:33:16.085 more that you can step into yourself, the more everything 0:33:16.085 --> 0:33:21.725 else blossoms. Yeah, and so often those things that you 0:33:21.765 --> 0:33:24.205 grapple with about yourself or that you think you can't 0:33:24.245 --> 0:33:29.005 share are the very things that give you that are 0:33:29.045 --> 0:33:35.725 the wind in your wings. So with your I don't know, 0:33:35.885 --> 0:33:39.405 do you say self discovery or your revelations about yourself 0:33:39.525 --> 0:33:43.565 or your non binary thing, your what was the compulsion 0:33:43.725 --> 0:33:49.165 then that you went, I just need to share this 0:33:49.365 --> 0:33:53.725 with the famous. Hey, motherfuckers, I'm non binary. 0:33:53.805 --> 0:34:01.365 Yeah, yeah, I guess I was overtly queer, and I 0:34:01.405 --> 0:34:04.485 had multiple partners that i'd write songs about, and you know, 0:34:04.645 --> 0:34:08.285 my music videos, they were very queer leaning. And then 0:34:08.805 --> 0:34:11.325 just as I evolved as a human being, I learned 0:34:11.405 --> 0:34:15.445 about what being and I would see like Sam Smith 0:34:15.445 --> 0:34:17.685 and Demi Levado at the time, and people would come 0:34:17.765 --> 0:34:22.325 out non binary, and I educated myself on what that was, 0:34:23.245 --> 0:34:28.285 and then I remember like really reading and understanding it 0:34:28.845 --> 0:34:33.085 and then being like, oh, oh my god, that's like 0:34:33.845 --> 0:34:36.445 so me to a t. And then when I would 0:34:36.485 --> 0:34:39.645 try to explain being non binary to my friends or 0:34:39.685 --> 0:34:42.925 family members, then I would kind of use myself as 0:34:42.925 --> 0:34:48.365 an example, and it just felt it's just so me. 0:34:48.765 --> 0:34:49.645 I just feel so. 0:34:49.725 --> 0:34:52.645 Non binary, and if you don't get it, it's because 0:34:52.685 --> 0:34:56.725 you're probably not non binary. Like I just feel so 0:34:57.125 --> 0:34:59.845 like a blend of genders. I just feel like the 0:34:59.885 --> 0:35:04.445 most gender smoothie motherfucker ever. And I felt like that 0:35:04.925 --> 0:35:07.045 from a very young age. I'd look at myself in 0:35:07.085 --> 0:35:09.245 the mirror and I'd be like because I went to 0:35:09.445 --> 0:35:13.685 Catholic school, and I'd be like, wow, God, really he 0:35:13.845 --> 0:35:17.925 ran out of girl insides and brain, and I think 0:35:18.045 --> 0:35:21.685 he just put a bit of boy brain or insides 0:35:21.805 --> 0:35:25.005 in me because I feel like a mix. And I'm 0:35:25.045 --> 0:35:28.005 like seven years old, eight years old thinking that, and 0:35:28.045 --> 0:35:31.525 then to me like, that's the most non binary thing, 0:35:31.765 --> 0:35:36.925 for most non binary thing, for seven year old to think. 0:35:36.725 --> 0:35:38.565 That that God made you that way. 0:35:39.525 --> 0:35:42.365 Yeah, And obviously then there was no vocabulary for being 0:35:42.405 --> 0:35:44.525 non binary, Like I didn't know that was a thing. 0:35:44.965 --> 0:35:49.485 But I look back on my childhood and it just it. 0:35:49.725 --> 0:35:52.205 Being non binary makes so much sense I've always felt. 0:35:52.245 --> 0:35:54.365 And for every non binary person it's different where you 0:35:54.405 --> 0:35:57.165 fall on the spectrum, but I feel pretty fifty to 0:35:57.165 --> 0:36:01.965 fifty in the middle of like female male, mix of gender, 0:36:02.485 --> 0:36:05.485 and that's the best way I can describe it. That's 0:36:05.525 --> 0:36:06.805 just who I am, and I don't know how to 0:36:06.885 --> 0:36:10.765 change it. So when people get in my DMS being hectic, it, yes, 0:36:10.885 --> 0:36:11.765 can't change this. 0:36:12.325 --> 0:36:17.525 Yes, when you told your family didn't make the same 0:36:17.725 --> 0:36:20.645 sense to them, or to your mum, or to your 0:36:20.685 --> 0:36:25.525 dad or to your sister, who who of them was 0:36:25.565 --> 0:36:29.445 the one that was like, yeah, I see that the most. 0:36:29.285 --> 0:36:32.805 Probably my sister the most. I feel like my mom 0:36:32.845 --> 0:36:37.125 and dad kind of didn't understand it because it was 0:36:37.565 --> 0:36:41.165 quite a while ago now, so I feel like now 0:36:41.205 --> 0:36:45.005 they're so educated on it because I'm their kid, But 0:36:45.045 --> 0:36:49.605 back then they did struggle to understand pronouns and just 0:36:50.405 --> 0:36:53.125 figure out. And I feel like for that age group, 0:36:53.245 --> 0:36:56.805 like they're in their early sixties, so it is kind 0:36:56.845 --> 0:37:00.725 of harder, but for them to grapple the idea of it. 0:37:01.045 --> 0:37:03.165 I saw your dad do a kid thing actually on 0:37:03.325 --> 0:37:08.725 sixty Minutes where he said, sometimes I miss gender them. Yeah, 0:37:09.405 --> 0:37:11.645 so what that is? You just ask for people to 0:37:11.765 --> 0:37:13.325 rise to meet you. Really. 0:37:14.445 --> 0:37:17.725 Yeah, it's you know, and it's kind of a respect thing. 0:37:17.805 --> 0:37:21.325 It's like, that's what I go by. And like, even 0:37:21.405 --> 0:37:24.765 if you stuff it up and completely fail and stuff 0:37:24.845 --> 0:37:27.925 up my pronouns, as long as you're like, oh fuck, sorry, ge, 0:37:28.485 --> 0:37:31.325 and then you correct yourself or just correct yourself, like 0:37:31.365 --> 0:37:33.765 so many of my mates will accidentally say she and 0:37:33.805 --> 0:37:36.205 then be like they and then just keep talking and 0:37:36.725 --> 0:37:38.125 you know, it's it's normal. 0:37:41.445 --> 0:37:44.725 After this short break, g Flip takes us inside their 0:37:44.725 --> 0:37:52.925 relationship with wife Krishelle Don't go anywhere. How was your 0:37:54.525 --> 0:37:59.205 meeting with Chrishchelle because at that point, so she's a 0:37:59.245 --> 0:38:06.565 massive star in the States, yes, selling Sunset. She's had 0:38:06.645 --> 0:38:09.045 romantic entanglements on that show. She's been doing it for 0:38:09.045 --> 0:38:13.285 so long. There's no secrets about her life. Really no. 0:38:14.165 --> 0:38:19.405 And then you two meet, you meet at a party. 0:38:20.725 --> 0:38:25.965 Yeah, our first meet was at a Halloween party that 0:38:26.085 --> 0:38:27.125 tones and I had. 0:38:27.245 --> 0:38:30.325 Ah, what was your costume? 0:38:31.045 --> 0:38:35.125 I was a skeleton and so was Krishelle. Oh really, 0:38:35.685 --> 0:38:38.045 so that's why we have a thing with skeletons. So 0:38:38.085 --> 0:38:41.325 I've got skeletons tattooed on my arms and our wedding 0:38:41.405 --> 0:38:46.325 rings have skeletons on them. Oh so, yeah we met. 0:38:46.605 --> 0:38:49.845 She was a really hot skeleton. I got my my 0:38:50.405 --> 0:38:53.725 I literally found like some eyeliner pencil and just like 0:38:54.205 --> 0:38:56.765 blacked my eyes out and found like a kid's T 0:38:56.885 --> 0:38:59.205 shirt from Target that had bones on it and run 0:38:59.325 --> 0:39:02.165 sleeves off. So I was a fifteen buck skeleton. She 0:39:02.325 --> 0:39:06.845 was like, I really put together good looking skeleton. 0:39:07.565 --> 0:39:11.565 Well she is a very good looking. She's yeah, she's 0:39:11.685 --> 0:39:17.685 insane looking. And from the moment you met the skeletons, like, 0:39:17.725 --> 0:39:20.445 what was that moment you were introduced to each other, 0:39:20.525 --> 0:39:22.445 or you went up and you talked to her, or 0:39:23.605 --> 0:39:26.765 she came up to you. Can you remember your encounter 0:39:26.805 --> 0:39:28.805 your skeleton encounter. Yeah. 0:39:28.965 --> 0:39:32.325 First time we met was one of Tone's best mates. 0:39:32.485 --> 0:39:37.485 Talia was at the front of this venue and was like, oh, gee, 0:39:37.725 --> 0:39:41.085 come over, meet Kroschelle. And then I was like all right, 0:39:41.125 --> 0:39:43.765 and then I just came over and we shook hands 0:39:44.085 --> 0:39:46.085 and I said hey and she said hey, and then 0:39:46.125 --> 0:39:49.245 I was like, like, you're real, like a really good 0:39:49.285 --> 0:39:53.045 looking skeleton and I'm not so good looking skeleton. But 0:39:53.485 --> 0:39:57.725 it wasn't like romantic or anything. It was just like 0:39:57.805 --> 0:40:00.085 a friend group meeting a friend group. It wasn't until 0:40:00.245 --> 0:40:06.125 like six months later or something that then some sparks 0:40:06.205 --> 0:40:08.645 flew yeah. 0:40:08.285 --> 0:40:13.005 Which is was I mean, probably more straightforward for you 0:40:14.925 --> 0:40:18.405 at that time than it was for her because she 0:40:18.445 --> 0:40:25.365 didn't think that she was gonna be a lesbian or no. Right, 0:40:25.485 --> 0:40:28.885 she was straight as far as she knew and maybe 0:40:28.925 --> 0:40:31.685 Stille's but loves who she loves. 0:40:32.405 --> 0:40:36.285 Yeah, she doesn't really know what to call herself, Like 0:40:36.565 --> 0:40:39.125 the word is really pan sexual, and when you're pans sexual, 0:40:39.165 --> 0:40:42.565 you're just attracted to energy. It's not really a gender, 0:40:42.605 --> 0:40:47.805 it's the person. But she personally hates the word pans. 0:40:48.125 --> 0:40:52.245 It is it's sort of hard to casually toss toss 0:40:52.285 --> 0:40:52.725 that in. 0:40:53.725 --> 0:40:56.685 Yeah, it's a kind of ugly word. So she's like, no, 0:40:56.805 --> 0:40:59.045 I don't want to identify as that. So she just 0:40:59.045 --> 0:41:02.565 says like she falls in love with energy and people 0:41:02.605 --> 0:41:04.525 and who they are, and I guess you know that's 0:41:04.565 --> 0:41:09.285 the case with us. And yeah, we've been together now 0:41:09.725 --> 0:41:11.485 over three years. 0:41:11.925 --> 0:41:15.045 And that's amazing because I love I've heard you tell 0:41:15.085 --> 0:41:19.005 the story about when you asked her out after you'd 0:41:19.005 --> 0:41:23.085 had a couple of you know, encounters, and she said, 0:41:23.165 --> 0:41:25.805 I'm really sorry, ye I'm straight. 0:41:26.885 --> 0:41:33.085 Yes she did, but you were like, I just thought, well, 0:41:33.125 --> 0:41:38.685 we haven't been been very straight together recently, That's what 0:41:38.765 --> 0:41:41.485 I thought. Like the last few times we've had little 0:41:41.605 --> 0:41:45.725 kisses here and there that wasn't very straight, darling, But yeah, 0:41:45.765 --> 0:41:48.405 that's what I thought. But I just said, oh, okay, 0:41:48.525 --> 0:41:53.165 no worries. And then a few like a week after, 0:41:53.285 --> 0:41:55.765 I sent her some houses that I was because she's 0:41:55.805 --> 0:41:58.165 a real estate agent and I was going to try 0:41:59.325 --> 0:42:03.165 rent a house in La after tour my tour finished, 0:42:03.765 --> 0:42:05.485 So I sent her some houses and I was like, 0:42:05.605 --> 0:42:07.565 is this a good price range for where it is 0:42:07.565 --> 0:42:12.125 in the location and whatever, And then she offered to 0:42:13.565 --> 0:42:17.445 come and look at the houses with me, and then 0:42:17.845 --> 0:42:21.725 that was our first date. A did you know at 0:42:21.725 --> 0:42:23.685 the time it was a date or it was only 0:42:23.725 --> 0:42:28.045 in retrospect. I think I knew it was a because yeah, 0:42:28.125 --> 0:42:30.445 in my head, she just told me she was straight 0:42:30.925 --> 0:42:34.245 and not interested. And then when I rocked up to 0:42:34.285 --> 0:42:38.485 the house, I was in the car and I looked 0:42:38.485 --> 0:42:40.765 out the window and saw her walking down the road 0:42:40.845 --> 0:42:45.725 to the house and she was like adjusting her face 0:42:45.845 --> 0:42:51.445 makeup or something and looking incredible, Like I knew she'd 0:42:51.445 --> 0:42:55.685 taken time to get ready. And she remembers like in 0:42:55.765 --> 0:42:58.445 her words, she would say like when she was getting 0:42:58.485 --> 0:43:00.845 ready that day, she was getting ready like she was 0:43:00.885 --> 0:43:03.565 going to meet someone that she had a crush on, 0:43:03.645 --> 0:43:06.005 like took that extra time and tried on different dresses 0:43:06.045 --> 0:43:08.685 and no, not this. And so then that's kind of 0:43:08.725 --> 0:43:11.805 when it clicked in her brain. And I think it 0:43:11.845 --> 0:43:15.325 clicked in mind because I was looking at like her 0:43:15.365 --> 0:43:18.165 walking down the street looking like an absolute fox. And 0:43:18.205 --> 0:43:22.165 then also just like she was doing something like putting 0:43:22.525 --> 0:43:25.845 lip stuff on or something. And then we were just 0:43:25.925 --> 0:43:28.085 at this house showing and we were just flirted the 0:43:28.125 --> 0:43:31.725 whole time, and then it never the flirting never. 0:43:31.645 --> 0:43:35.445 Ended, and it still hasn't ended, even though now you're 0:43:35.445 --> 0:43:38.605 an old married couple. Yeah. 0:43:38.765 --> 0:43:42.485 Yeah, we do a wedding once a year. We reknew 0:43:42.485 --> 0:43:46.325 our vows. It kind of started because our first wedding 0:43:46.485 --> 0:43:50.685 was so shotgun. We married after three months kind of dating, 0:43:51.485 --> 0:43:53.565 which I think a lot of the world think we 0:43:53.645 --> 0:43:57.525 got married like a year later, when really we. 0:43:57.485 --> 0:44:02.045 Got We kept it a secret because yeah, we got married. 0:44:01.805 --> 0:44:05.005 Like three months after we started fully kind of dating. 0:44:05.845 --> 0:44:11.445 And then obviously we called our family and we decided 0:44:11.525 --> 0:44:13.925 the day of because we worked out we both had 0:44:13.925 --> 0:44:16.485 the day off the next day, so then we ended 0:44:16.565 --> 0:44:19.885 up deciding to go to Vegas and get married. Anyway, 0:44:19.965 --> 0:44:22.645 we called all our friends and family and they were 0:44:22.685 --> 0:44:25.445 all kind of like, what do you mean, Like they 0:44:25.445 --> 0:44:27.405 were very happy for us, but they were sad they 0:44:27.405 --> 0:44:30.445 were missing it. So we said, don't worry, we're going 0:44:30.485 --> 0:44:31.405 to do another one. 0:44:31.525 --> 0:44:34.365 Like so, then we're going to do another one. 0:44:34.405 --> 0:44:36.725 So then the next one was in Palm Springs so 0:44:36.845 --> 0:44:39.005 that our friends in LA could come, and then my 0:44:39.125 --> 0:44:42.365 family's like, but we can't make it, so we're like, yeah, okay, 0:44:42.365 --> 0:44:44.765 we'll do another one. So then we did another one 0:44:44.885 --> 0:44:48.005 in Australia with all my family, and then this year 0:44:48.165 --> 0:44:50.165 we had other friends that missed out, so then we 0:44:50.205 --> 0:44:52.445 were like, Okay, we'll do it, and then it just became. 0:44:52.205 --> 0:44:53.205 The Wedding World Tour. 0:44:53.765 --> 0:44:56.885 So now we do a wedding every year, and you know, 0:44:56.925 --> 0:45:00.285 we're covering the base of a big wedding, which we 0:45:00.365 --> 0:45:03.125 probably that most people have with over one hundred guests. 0:45:03.165 --> 0:45:06.485 We're just slowly getting to all one hundred guests world War. 0:45:06.365 --> 0:45:11.485 Ten at a time. Yes, and what like your last 0:45:11.565 --> 0:45:14.965 one was it? It was medieval? Was it then medieval? 0:45:15.005 --> 0:45:17.885 And you are were you a knight? I don't know 0:45:17.925 --> 0:45:20.445 what I was? Yeah, what were you? Was it a 0:45:20.445 --> 0:45:25.605 costume shop or was it? No? So arn't directed? 0:45:26.645 --> 0:45:30.245 Yeah, no, So all our weddings are planned one week 0:45:30.285 --> 0:45:33.325 in advance or less because our whole thing with weddings 0:45:33.365 --> 0:45:35.805 is we don't want to be stressed because we hate 0:45:35.845 --> 0:45:37.725 stress for weddings and it should be our love. 0:45:38.845 --> 0:45:41.045 So everything is so last minute planned. 0:45:41.845 --> 0:45:45.045 So really I had to just look on Amazon and 0:45:45.085 --> 0:45:50.565 see what could get delivered in time, and I bought. 0:45:50.445 --> 0:45:53.885 What was the description? What was the description of the costume? 0:45:54.805 --> 0:46:01.485 Some like Renaissance medieval royal coat? Yeah, And then and 0:46:01.525 --> 0:46:04.245 then I bought a sort. I like the thought of 0:46:04.285 --> 0:46:06.765 having a sword that was called to me, So I 0:46:06.845 --> 0:46:10.925 bought a foam sword and a a sword holder, and 0:46:10.965 --> 0:46:13.725 then I wore some of Krashelle's like leggings from her 0:46:13.765 --> 0:46:16.565 fitness and then I just wore these boots that I'm 0:46:16.605 --> 0:46:17.445 wearing right now. 0:46:18.285 --> 0:46:20.685 It was gorgeous. It was a bit Zelderish too. 0:46:21.805 --> 0:46:24.725 Yeah, it was a bit fantasy, and when I'm like 0:46:25.005 --> 0:46:27.565 into that stuff. It was kind of a joke, like 0:46:28.245 --> 0:46:30.605 it was a week out from when we're meant to 0:46:30.645 --> 0:46:32.805 be getting married, because we always have to do it 0:46:32.845 --> 0:46:35.965 in July, and I think it was Kroshelle was just like, 0:46:36.485 --> 0:46:38.885 what was if we did a medieval wedding, and I 0:46:38.965 --> 0:46:40.485 just looked at it. I was like, oh my god, 0:46:40.525 --> 0:46:43.565 that's so funny, Like we should get a loop player. 0:46:43.605 --> 0:46:45.445 And then H's like, we should get people who fight 0:46:45.485 --> 0:46:49.125 with swords, and we just were making each other laugh. 0:46:49.245 --> 0:46:52.405 And then we happened to look on Airbnb and there 0:46:52.485 --> 0:46:56.205 was a castle around the corner that you could hire 0:46:56.725 --> 0:46:59.725 just as an Airbnb. So then we were like, all right, 0:46:59.805 --> 0:47:02.525 let's book it and then let's find some people to 0:47:02.565 --> 0:47:03.525 fight with some swords. 0:47:03.925 --> 0:47:09.085 You jousted, You jousted like you've barely jousted and in 0:47:09.965 --> 0:47:14.285 the relationship between the two of you is very lovely, 0:47:15.005 --> 0:47:19.365 and the happiness between you is you know, it's when 0:47:19.405 --> 0:47:22.725 you talk before about trolls and stuff, I'm like, partly, 0:47:22.725 --> 0:47:26.685 I'm like, who can be bothered trolling in the face 0:47:26.725 --> 0:47:31.685 of what is objectively pure happiness? 0:47:32.245 --> 0:47:37.605 Yeah, still happens. Still, people think, still think that our 0:47:37.645 --> 0:47:41.645 relationships fake, and we find that funny because God, we 0:47:41.765 --> 0:47:45.165 hang out all the time. Imagine having a pr relationship 0:47:45.205 --> 0:47:47.645 having to hang out with each other all day. 0:47:47.565 --> 0:47:52.325 And especially especially in Hollywood, because have you noticed as 0:47:52.365 --> 0:47:54.685 an Australian I think part of the reason they love 0:47:54.725 --> 0:47:58.645 you is that you've got this really authentic, almost kind 0:47:58.645 --> 0:48:03.285 of old fashioned Australian energy, you know, Alarican and a 0:48:03.325 --> 0:48:07.125 bit relaxed and have a laugh instead of getting angry 0:48:07.165 --> 0:48:11.525 and being open instead of close the doors. So that 0:48:11.685 --> 0:48:13.445 to Hollywood must have been a shock. 0:48:14.445 --> 0:48:18.685 Yeah, I think I think honestly, just Krishelle not being 0:48:18.725 --> 0:48:21.285 with a man was the biggest shock. I think that 0:48:21.365 --> 0:48:25.165 really took Americans. And you know a lot of the 0:48:25.245 --> 0:48:30.285 selling Sunset fan base isn't you know in states where 0:48:30.285 --> 0:48:33.645 it's you know, really common to have queer relationships like 0:48:33.685 --> 0:48:38.085 Middle America's very like you know, tradition. It's yeah, it's 0:48:38.165 --> 0:48:41.485 trad it's like so it was really shocking to see 0:48:41.885 --> 0:48:44.965 her in a not with like a six foot man, you. 0:48:45.005 --> 0:48:45.805 Know, like it was. 0:48:46.685 --> 0:48:50.565 It really made people crazy, and especially at that time 0:48:50.605 --> 0:48:54.685 when we came out public in a relationship, like the 0:48:54.845 --> 0:48:59.485 dms and just the the things that you just I 0:48:59.565 --> 0:49:03.925 just couldn't believe how much it affected people's days. Like, 0:49:04.525 --> 0:49:07.485 you know, there'd be a Karen in Middle America just 0:49:07.565 --> 0:49:09.925 sweeping and then they'd be just so angry and then 0:49:09.965 --> 0:49:12.245 they'd have to get on their phone to like message 0:49:12.285 --> 0:49:14.845 me because they're just so furious that. 0:49:15.405 --> 0:49:17.725 I'm with her. So yeah, it was. 0:49:17.765 --> 0:49:21.685 It was very eye opening to me about how people 0:49:21.765 --> 0:49:24.485 are homophobic or you. 0:49:24.485 --> 0:49:29.645 Know, scared or fearful, fearful of things, because I think 0:49:29.805 --> 0:49:32.725 fear and anger live kind of close to each other. 0:49:34.165 --> 0:49:37.525 Yeah, it was really interesting and it still happens, to 0:49:37.525 --> 0:49:40.405 be honest, I'm still getting dms that people are so 0:49:40.525 --> 0:49:43.445 upset with my gender or that I'm with Koshelle, or 0:49:43.445 --> 0:49:46.805 that I'm queer, or you know, people are just they're 0:49:46.845 --> 0:49:50.525 angry at it. But it really just you know, in 0:49:50.565 --> 0:49:53.405 the end. It kind of does amuse me that someone 0:49:53.525 --> 0:49:56.525 is literally driving to the shops to buy some cereal 0:49:56.605 --> 0:49:59.245 and bread and milk and they just have to pull 0:49:59.245 --> 0:50:02.165 the car over to like message me how angry angry 0:50:02.205 --> 0:50:05.445 they are, Like, what a crazy way to live. You 0:50:05.525 --> 0:50:10.845 know that you're just ticked off by someone exists, But. 0:50:11.485 --> 0:50:13.405 What you continue to do in the face of that 0:50:13.565 --> 0:50:16.365 is exist even more fully. 0:50:17.845 --> 0:50:22.165 Yeah, one, you know, I would never dull myself down. 0:50:24.165 --> 0:50:26.205 And by the way, on an unrelated note, I was 0:50:26.245 --> 0:50:28.725 also doing the project the night Krischelle came in, which 0:50:28.765 --> 0:50:34.165 was not long ago. Oh my goodness that the response 0:50:34.245 --> 0:50:42.485 to her was so beautiful, just so beautiful. Yeah, she's 0:50:42.525 --> 0:50:46.685 she's a great one. I know, I've really lucked out. 0:50:47.565 --> 0:50:48.165 She's an Arab. 0:50:49.445 --> 0:50:54.645 When my family found out, like we're seriously going to 0:50:54.645 --> 0:50:56.885 be together, it wasn't just like a little fling. They 0:50:56.925 --> 0:51:00.325 all cried. They were like because they just thought she 0:51:00.485 --> 0:51:02.805 was the best person they ever met. 0:51:02.885 --> 0:51:06.765 So, you know, because Chrischelle's just spoken recently and I've 0:51:07.125 --> 0:51:10.925 heard you speak before too about and Krishelle's always been 0:51:10.965 --> 0:51:14.045 really open about the fact that she wants to have babies. Yes, 0:51:15.005 --> 0:51:17.445 and recently she came out and said that that wasn't 0:51:17.485 --> 0:51:19.645 working out so well. 0:51:21.245 --> 0:51:26.405 Yeah, the last few years, to be honest, it's an IVF. 0:51:26.445 --> 0:51:30.085 It's been a real struggle and we've had so many, gods, 0:51:30.165 --> 0:51:32.405 so many ups and downs. And for anyone that goes 0:51:32.485 --> 0:51:36.525 through that whole process, like, it really takes a toll. 0:51:36.565 --> 0:51:41.085 And there's you know, hopeful moments and then sad moments, 0:51:41.125 --> 0:51:42.525 and then there's a little bit of hope and then 0:51:42.525 --> 0:51:46.125 it all backfires and then it's going starting again. So yeah, 0:51:46.165 --> 0:51:51.085 it's definitely been uh And the hormones. The hormones are 0:51:51.245 --> 0:51:56.285 rough hormones. And the amount of needles, like it's crazy. 0:51:56.365 --> 0:52:01.725 And surgeries and she's such a baller though. Whenever Krishelle 0:52:01.885 --> 0:52:05.925 has surgeries or has to go through anything where the 0:52:06.005 --> 0:52:09.165 doctor might give you pain medication, majority of the time 0:52:09.405 --> 0:52:12.485 she doesn't even take the medication. She's just a baller, 0:52:12.605 --> 0:52:17.765 Like her pain tolerance is insane. Like, so she's such 0:52:17.805 --> 0:52:21.285 a tough cookie. And you know, I admire, I admire 0:52:21.405 --> 0:52:24.485 just everything and how strong she is and how she's 0:52:24.605 --> 0:52:27.405 taking all, you know, the news that we get and 0:52:27.645 --> 0:52:32.485 she's just she's so amazing, and she's such a brilliant 0:52:32.565 --> 0:52:35.605 and strong human being. For everything she's gone through, not 0:52:35.685 --> 0:52:39.365 only with this whole process we're going through, but also 0:52:39.405 --> 0:52:41.965 her whole life, Like her story is pretty amazing. What 0:52:42.685 --> 0:52:46.285 she's got through to get to where she has. Her 0:52:46.405 --> 0:52:50.725 childhood was nothing like you would think, and it's completely 0:52:50.765 --> 0:52:54.565 the opposite. So I just admire every everything about her 0:52:54.565 --> 0:52:55.605 and where she's come from. 0:52:56.565 --> 0:53:00.325 You're very yin and yang. You know there's something together 0:53:00.565 --> 0:53:04.445 that's so whole. With the two of you together. I 0:53:04.485 --> 0:53:09.045 hope you're I hope your every dream comes true together 0:53:10.485 --> 0:53:14.685 because you were delightful and individually. Thank you for your 0:53:15.205 --> 0:53:20.445 gift of music and really being a great ambassador for Australia, 0:53:21.005 --> 0:53:24.245 which life not every Australian is. But I truly believe 0:53:24.325 --> 0:53:27.485 that your spirit and you get up and go is 0:53:28.765 --> 0:53:32.805 just glorious. That's very sweet. That's going to make me cry. 0:53:34.525 --> 0:53:37.125 The future is a big place. You have to narrow 0:53:37.125 --> 0:53:41.965 it down slightly to what is coming up. It's dream Ride. 0:53:42.205 --> 0:53:45.685 Yes, album's coming out September fifth. It's called dream Ride. 0:53:45.765 --> 0:53:50.085 It's a very eighties esque kind of album. I went 0:53:50.165 --> 0:53:54.285 really hard into the eighties world sonically, with like big 0:53:54.365 --> 0:53:57.245 reverb on the drums, and you know every drum is 0:53:57.285 --> 0:54:00.805 me playing it and a lot of sax solos and 0:54:00.885 --> 0:54:04.605 synth solos, and yeah, I'm really excited to release this 0:54:04.725 --> 0:54:06.365 record on September fifth. 0:54:06.525 --> 0:54:08.205 We look forward to seeing you very much. 0:54:09.405 --> 0:54:12.925 Yes, So I'm coming back to Australia late feb and 0:54:13.085 --> 0:54:17.765 March to play shows in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth. 0:54:18.725 --> 0:54:20.605 And I can't wait to come and play shows. Playing 0:54:20.605 --> 0:54:23.525 shows is my favorite part about my job, and I 0:54:23.645 --> 0:54:25.605 spend a lot of time trying to make my live 0:54:25.685 --> 0:54:28.365 show as good as possible. And I've been working on 0:54:28.405 --> 0:54:30.645 it the last week and yeah, it's going to be 0:54:30.725 --> 0:54:33.125 a ripper. So I can't wait and hope hopefully some 0:54:33.165 --> 0:54:35.125 people come out to see me. It's going to be good. 0:54:35.685 --> 0:54:41.245 Oh I think they will. Jenny's brother comes to my 0:54:41.325 --> 0:54:44.205 shows and they have a little girl who's a huge 0:54:44.325 --> 0:54:48.285 G Flip fan, their little daughter, so Jenny's niece. 0:54:48.445 --> 0:54:50.525 So it's very very cute. 0:54:50.565 --> 0:54:54.205 And my last show I played in Melbourne, Jenny's brow 0:54:54.285 --> 0:54:56.445 and his wife came to that show and they gave 0:54:56.485 --> 0:54:59.405 me a pair of Jenny's last drumsticks, which is really special. 0:54:59.925 --> 0:55:05.005 Really yeah, yeah, it was really niceh Just the power 0:55:05.085 --> 0:55:09.845 of a teacher I know, and that's what me beat 0:55:09.885 --> 0:55:12.005 want to be a drum teacher. So then I followed 0:55:12.005 --> 0:55:14.405 in her, and then when she passed, I took over 0:55:14.445 --> 0:55:16.405 a lot of her drum students as well. 0:55:17.085 --> 0:55:20.925 And then you drop them to be Jefly now, and 0:55:20.965 --> 0:55:23.885 then I became Jefly. Then I couldn't teach them anymore. 0:55:25.725 --> 0:55:28.685 But yeah, so yeah, Jenny's a big part and I 0:55:28.725 --> 0:55:31.165 have Jenny related tattoos all over my body too. 0:55:32.405 --> 0:55:36.325 You deserve everything good? And also what did you take? 0:55:36.565 --> 0:55:39.405 What do you take to Kara Delvine's party? What was 0:55:39.445 --> 0:55:42.565 in that big box? What was it? What was it? 0:55:44.125 --> 0:55:45.605 Do you want to know? Yeah? 0:55:45.925 --> 0:55:49.845 I was like, I was literally like, this is really funny. 0:55:50.005 --> 0:55:52.245 I'll Kara in bind me to the party. And I 0:55:52.285 --> 0:55:54.085 texted her and I was like, I'm getting you. I'm 0:55:54.085 --> 0:55:56.605 going to get you a real strange present. She's like 0:55:56.645 --> 0:55:59.285 I can't wait looking forward to it. And then I 0:55:59.365 --> 0:56:01.845 was thinking, what do you get a girl that has 0:56:01.885 --> 0:56:04.045 it all, like she's got everything? 0:56:04.165 --> 0:56:05.045 What do you get her? 0:56:05.245 --> 0:56:08.325 And I was like, I bet she doesn't own bagpipes? 0:56:12.765 --> 0:56:16.765 So that photo were present, there's bagpipes? 0:56:17.005 --> 0:56:22.685 This yeah, yeah, all right, I guarantee you something and 0:56:22.685 --> 0:56:25.125 that is that you g Flip will learn to play 0:56:25.165 --> 0:56:26.445 them before she does. 0:56:27.485 --> 0:56:29.805 Do you know what when I bought her the bagpipes, 0:56:29.845 --> 0:56:34.285 I might have bought myself some pipes too, Yeah, but 0:56:34.365 --> 0:56:34.965 she loved them. 0:56:35.005 --> 0:56:39.645 She thought they were great. Oh that's great, that's great. Well, 0:56:39.725 --> 0:56:44.085 god speed to you. Thanks for joining us on no Filter. 0:56:44.925 --> 0:56:49.045 Thank you for showing yourself. Ah, thank you so much, Kate. 0:56:49.125 --> 0:56:51.685 I remember driving from Dingley. 0:56:51.405 --> 0:56:54.285 Village to Cheltenham to go to school every morning and 0:56:54.365 --> 0:56:58.245 listening to you in the car and your voice has 0:56:58.285 --> 0:57:01.325 always been such a calming, warm energy. So that's where 0:57:01.325 --> 0:57:03.845 I tear up, because you're like always grown up with 0:57:03.885 --> 0:57:04.365 you at round. 0:57:04.485 --> 0:57:09.685 So I love it. I love you es Kate, Okay, 0:57:09.685 --> 0:57:16.485 I love you two, kre. I think to know g 0:57:16.725 --> 0:57:22.245 Flip is to love g Flip because, like I said 0:57:22.245 --> 0:57:27.805 to them in our chat, there's something quintessentially Australian about them, 0:57:27.965 --> 0:57:31.565 a sense of mischief, a sense of joy, a sense 0:57:31.605 --> 0:57:39.285 of she'll be right, but also so cool, so themselves, 0:57:39.645 --> 0:57:43.685 so talented. G Flip has really done it all, from 0:57:44.445 --> 0:57:50.885 chart topping jams to the emotional rollercoaster of IVF. They 0:57:50.965 --> 0:57:54.125 fell hard and fast for Chrishelle along the way and 0:57:54.165 --> 0:57:57.645 are really making it work. And I think there's magic 0:57:57.965 --> 0:58:02.365 in someone who lives their life full volume and flips 0:58:02.365 --> 0:58:05.325 the script at every turn, or should I say g 0:58:05.485 --> 0:58:09.205 flips the script. 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