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Speaker 2: The last few years. To be honest, it's an IVF.

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to No Filter. I'm kateline Brook and

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Speaker 1: today we're diving into the world of g Flip and

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Speaker 1: what a world it is. G Flip is one of

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Speaker 1: Australia's most exciting boundary pushing musicians, and from their breakout

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Speaker 1: In this episode, we hear about the chance encounter that

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Speaker 1: the challenges of IVF, the joy of celebrating love with

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Speaker 1: annual weddings, and how they stay true to themselves no

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Speaker 1: matter what the world throws at them. This is g

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Speaker 1: G flip Yell you straddle continents? Do I love a straddle?

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Speaker 1: I love a straddle? But you're with us? So you're

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Speaker 1: in Sydney, I'm in Melbourne, I'm in your hometown. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I was just there yesterday. And what were you doing here?

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to fly in and have a day

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Speaker 1: So how was that? What did you do? Were you

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Speaker 1: And how often are you getting to do this? Because

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Speaker 1: What was it about LA that was calling you?

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Speaker 2: I guess the last two years at Chrischelle's moving into

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Speaker 1: Yes, because it's a I mean, it's not it's not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I hope sometimes I think about when my

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Speaker 2: It was the only thing that I could stay still

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Speaker 2: it wasn't until I met my drum teacher in year seven,

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Speaker 2: it felt like I'd open the door in so many

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00:25:19,645 --> 00:25:22,725
Speaker 2: avenues that at least one of the routes is going

440
00:25:22,805 --> 00:25:23,125
Speaker 2: to work.

441
00:25:23,325 --> 00:25:27,045
Speaker 1: Because I always think there's so many ways to fuck

442
00:25:27,125 --> 00:25:29,965
Speaker 1: yourself up, and there's so many ways that the external

443
00:25:30,005 --> 00:25:32,885
Speaker 1: world can trip you up as well. You don't need

444
00:25:32,925 --> 00:25:38,365
Speaker 1: to trip yourself up through lack of preparation. No, no, yeah,

445
00:25:38,405 --> 00:25:42,205
Speaker 1: And at what point did you go did you start

446
00:25:42,245 --> 00:25:46,445
Speaker 1: to feel the momentum of all of that coming together.

447
00:25:46,965 --> 00:25:52,885
Speaker 1: So you're singing, you're drumming, you've got the call to America.

448
00:25:55,485 --> 00:25:59,285
Speaker 1: Was there a moment where you went, oh, I think

449
00:26:00,405 --> 00:26:01,925
Speaker 1: I think g Flip's going to do this.

450
00:26:02,405 --> 00:26:07,525
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, there was definitely one defining moment.

451
00:26:07,805 --> 00:26:12,085
Speaker 1: So after I.

452
00:26:10,485 --> 00:26:15,205
Speaker 2: Left that last band, I gave myself one year to

453
00:26:16,565 --> 00:26:20,085
Speaker 2: basically find management or a label, and I had no

454
00:26:20,165 --> 00:26:24,765
Speaker 2: connections in the Australian music scene. But I gave myself

455
00:26:25,725 --> 00:26:28,365
Speaker 2: about a year to figure it out.

456
00:26:28,605 --> 00:26:29,925
Speaker 1: So I made Excel.

457
00:26:29,605 --> 00:26:32,805
Speaker 2: Spreadsheets of the whole music industry in Australia. I had

458
00:26:33,125 --> 00:26:38,685
Speaker 2: everyone's details from Triple J, all the booking agents, Spotify, playlisters,

459
00:26:38,725 --> 00:26:41,925
Speaker 2: and I made this insane spreadsheet of the whole music industry.

460
00:26:42,485 --> 00:26:46,445
Speaker 2: And then I would I was just I was so relentless.

461
00:26:46,485 --> 00:26:48,525
Speaker 2: I was just insane, and I wanted to write my

462
00:26:48,605 --> 00:26:50,925
Speaker 2: hit list of who I wanted to be, my publicist

463
00:26:50,925 --> 00:26:54,165
Speaker 2: and my booking agent. And then I wrote as many

464
00:26:54,325 --> 00:26:57,525
Speaker 2: wrote and produced as many songs in my bedroom and

465
00:26:57,565 --> 00:26:58,525
Speaker 2: it's all I thought about.

466
00:26:58,525 --> 00:26:59,005
Speaker 1: For a year.

467
00:26:59,045 --> 00:27:01,325
Speaker 2: I went sober, I didn't really see my friends. All

468
00:27:01,365 --> 00:27:03,285
Speaker 2: my friends would come over on the weekend and help

469
00:27:03,565 --> 00:27:04,845
Speaker 2: me make my spreadsheets.

470
00:27:05,445 --> 00:27:07,765
Speaker 1: I was very cute of them crafting.

471
00:27:08,725 --> 00:27:13,005
Speaker 2: And then it was I started going to all these

472
00:27:14,165 --> 00:27:16,765
Speaker 2: in the Australian music scene. They have like Music Week

473
00:27:16,765 --> 00:27:19,645
Speaker 2: in Melbourne, and they have Music Week in Sydney, and

474
00:27:19,685 --> 00:27:23,525
Speaker 2: you go listen to managers and labels talk about the

475
00:27:23,605 --> 00:27:26,485
Speaker 2: industry and I would go there, and my whole plan

476
00:27:26,645 --> 00:27:29,365
Speaker 2: was that I'm going to talk to that manager afterwards

477
00:27:29,365 --> 00:27:31,085
Speaker 2: and give him my demos, and I'm going to talk

478
00:27:31,125 --> 00:27:33,645
Speaker 2: to that booking agent and learn more about the industry.

479
00:27:33,645 --> 00:27:35,725
Speaker 1: And I was just so obsessed with it.

480
00:27:36,245 --> 00:27:39,645
Speaker 2: And then this one manager I walked up and said, Hey,

481
00:27:40,125 --> 00:27:40,965
Speaker 2: you should listen.

482
00:27:40,725 --> 00:27:41,445
Speaker 1: To my demos.

483
00:27:41,685 --> 00:27:45,085
Speaker 2: I'm like Dave Grohl from Nirvana, played drums in a band,

484
00:27:45,085 --> 00:27:46,725
Speaker 2: but now I'm a lead singer and I write the

485
00:27:46,805 --> 00:27:49,245
Speaker 2: music and you're going to love my demos if you

486
00:27:49,285 --> 00:27:51,325
Speaker 2: give me a shot, just have a listen. And he

487
00:27:51,485 --> 00:27:53,725
Speaker 2: looked at me and said, your confidence is so crazy.

488
00:27:53,765 --> 00:27:55,685
Speaker 2: I'm actually going to listen to your demos. And then

489
00:27:56,165 --> 00:27:58,845
Speaker 2: he listened to the demos and then sent me a

490
00:27:58,885 --> 00:28:02,645
Speaker 2: message and said, hey, come to my office Monday morning.

491
00:28:03,525 --> 00:28:10,085
Speaker 2: And then I remember just driving my car and calling

492
00:28:10,165 --> 00:28:13,885
Speaker 2: my dad and being like holy shit, like holy shit.

493
00:28:14,005 --> 00:28:17,325
Speaker 2: And I'd worked the whole year to the point and

494
00:28:17,365 --> 00:28:20,605
Speaker 2: I got my database and I was about to blast

495
00:28:20,685 --> 00:28:25,405
Speaker 2: email everyone but my demos, but then that one manager

496
00:28:25,645 --> 00:28:28,285
Speaker 2: heard it first, and then he wanted to sign me

497
00:28:28,445 --> 00:28:31,645
Speaker 2: for management and label. So then I took his name

498
00:28:31,805 --> 00:28:34,765
Speaker 2: and then I messaged as many people as I could

499
00:28:35,205 --> 00:28:37,765
Speaker 2: in the Australian music industry and said he wants to

500
00:28:37,805 --> 00:28:41,125
Speaker 2: sign me, so you should listen to my demos. And

501
00:28:41,165 --> 00:28:45,245
Speaker 2: then everyone that I sent them listened to my demos.

502
00:28:45,245 --> 00:28:47,645
Speaker 2: And then I just got to meet heaps of different

503
00:28:47,645 --> 00:28:50,685
Speaker 2: people in the music industry and kind of pick my.

504
00:28:50,925 --> 00:28:53,045
Speaker 1: Turn yourself into a bidding war.

505
00:28:53,445 --> 00:28:59,445
Speaker 2: I did, yeah, Wow, yeah, and then that all happened.

506
00:28:59,445 --> 00:29:02,405
Speaker 2: And at the same time I had my first single

507
00:29:02,485 --> 00:29:05,045
Speaker 2: about You that and I was obsessed with Triple J

508
00:29:05,205 --> 00:29:09,445
Speaker 2: on Earth, this platform, and I was a super yu.

509
00:29:09,645 --> 00:29:12,125
Speaker 2: I was so obsessed with that I would write reviews

510
00:29:12,165 --> 00:29:14,205
Speaker 2: because I knew at some stage I'm going to have

511
00:29:14,245 --> 00:29:16,605
Speaker 2: a single and I want to have a direct contact

512
00:29:16,645 --> 00:29:19,885
Speaker 2: that I can give my song to them. Because this

513
00:29:20,005 --> 00:29:21,845
Speaker 2: was about this is how my brain works. I wanted

514
00:29:21,885 --> 00:29:26,205
Speaker 2: every avenue to work, so even the Triple J thing,

515
00:29:26,285 --> 00:29:29,605
Speaker 2: I was a super user. And then Max Quinn I

516
00:29:29,685 --> 00:29:32,765
Speaker 2: had his email and this doesn't mean that you get

517
00:29:32,805 --> 00:29:34,725
Speaker 2: on the air, but it means you just have the

518
00:29:34,765 --> 00:29:36,885
Speaker 2: email of the guy that works at Triple Jay on

519
00:29:36,925 --> 00:29:39,685
Speaker 2: Earth for me to just send him and be like, hey,

520
00:29:39,725 --> 00:29:43,765
Speaker 2: I uploaded a song today. And then it was this

521
00:29:43,965 --> 00:29:47,605
Speaker 2: was the day that to answer your question that I

522
00:29:47,645 --> 00:29:50,725
Speaker 2: remember everything feeling like, holy shit, I think it's going

523
00:29:50,805 --> 00:29:51,245
Speaker 2: to work.

524
00:29:51,445 --> 00:29:53,285
Speaker 1: Is that song.

525
00:29:55,085 --> 00:29:58,285
Speaker 2: That I uploaded to Triple Jay on Earth blew Up

526
00:29:58,285 --> 00:30:00,885
Speaker 2: and then went on the air on Triple j and

527
00:30:00,965 --> 00:30:06,125
Speaker 2: started going psycho online. And then I remember going to

528
00:30:06,165 --> 00:30:09,925
Speaker 2: bed that night, And I've documented all of this, actually,

529
00:30:10,045 --> 00:30:10,885
Speaker 2: all of this story.

530
00:30:10,925 --> 00:30:13,805
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm not surprised. Yeah, there's real.

531
00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:16,645
Speaker 2: Life videos of me talking about it, but I have

532
00:30:16,725 --> 00:30:18,565
Speaker 2: a video of me going to sleep that night and

533
00:30:18,605 --> 00:30:21,205
Speaker 2: being like, holy shit. I don't think I'm going to

534
00:30:21,325 --> 00:30:24,525
Speaker 2: have to, you know, teach drum lessons anymore. And I

535
00:30:24,525 --> 00:30:26,405
Speaker 2: don't think I'm going to have to hand out pamphlets

536
00:30:26,405 --> 00:30:30,005
Speaker 2: at Rod Laver Arena anymore. Like I think I think

537
00:30:30,045 --> 00:30:32,245
Speaker 2: I've made it. Even though it was just the first

538
00:30:32,685 --> 00:30:35,125
Speaker 2: I just got a spin, but it just made me

539
00:30:35,165 --> 00:30:38,285
Speaker 2: think that, oh, I think I'm going to be okay

540
00:30:38,365 --> 00:30:40,365
Speaker 2: here and I'm going to be able to do this

541
00:30:40,445 --> 00:30:41,645
Speaker 2: for the rest of my life.

542
00:30:41,805 --> 00:30:46,045
Speaker 1: So did you send a little preyer up to Jenny

543
00:30:45,565 --> 00:30:48,525
Speaker 1: at that time? Yeah, definitely.

544
00:30:48,765 --> 00:30:51,765
Speaker 2: Obviously, Jenny's always in the back of my head, and

545
00:30:52,765 --> 00:30:55,125
Speaker 2: when the song came out, it was actually.

546
00:30:56,925 --> 00:31:01,925
Speaker 1: It was on her birthday. Oh really yeah, oh really

547
00:31:02,405 --> 00:31:02,725
Speaker 1: see that.

548
00:31:03,525 --> 00:31:06,365
Speaker 2: I get these two confused when she passed ords on

549
00:31:06,405 --> 00:31:12,365
Speaker 2: her birthday, but those dates, yeah, that was pretty special.

550
00:31:12,445 --> 00:31:17,405
Speaker 2: And yeah, and then I just woke up and then

551
00:31:17,445 --> 00:31:20,085
Speaker 2: everything changed and I had to message all because I

552
00:31:20,125 --> 00:31:23,325
Speaker 2: was teaching drum students in my bedroom and I had

553
00:31:23,325 --> 00:31:25,485
Speaker 2: to message them all and say, I'm so sorry I

554
00:31:25,485 --> 00:31:28,125
Speaker 2: won't be able to teach all of you anymore.

555
00:31:28,445 --> 00:31:32,125
Speaker 1: Well you dragged them straight away. Yeah, my life changed

556
00:31:32,165 --> 00:31:35,685
Speaker 1: the next day. Wow. And like when you say changed,

557
00:31:36,005 --> 00:31:43,285
Speaker 1: what did that look like? Gigs or appointments or sessions.

558
00:31:43,685 --> 00:31:46,725
Speaker 2: So my song went viral online and it hadn't even

559
00:31:46,765 --> 00:31:48,845
Speaker 2: been released yet. It was just on Triple J on

560
00:31:48,885 --> 00:31:51,845
Speaker 2: the website, so it wasn't even a release song. I

561
00:31:51,885 --> 00:31:56,165
Speaker 2: just uploaded it to the website platform. But overnight it

562
00:31:56,205 --> 00:32:00,725
Speaker 2: went global and it became Pitchfork's Best New Song, which

563
00:32:00,765 --> 00:32:03,645
Speaker 2: is like a big deal in the US. And then

564
00:32:03,885 --> 00:32:08,165
Speaker 2: I started getting gig offers at south By Southwest in Texas,

565
00:32:08,605 --> 00:32:12,245
Speaker 2: which was which was in two weeks time, So I

566
00:32:12,285 --> 00:32:15,325
Speaker 2: had two weeks to find a band and then play

567
00:32:15,405 --> 00:32:19,165
Speaker 2: my first show, which luckily I'm such a freak, and

568
00:32:19,205 --> 00:32:22,365
Speaker 2: I prepared my whole entire show already, So I was

569
00:32:22,445 --> 00:32:25,965
Speaker 2: ready for that exact moment, because if I hadn't planned

570
00:32:26,005 --> 00:32:27,925
Speaker 2: it all out first, I would have been in trouble.

571
00:32:27,965 --> 00:32:31,565
Speaker 2: But I already had my show and my band members

572
00:32:31,965 --> 00:32:35,525
Speaker 2: and thought exactly about what my live show would be.

573
00:32:35,645 --> 00:32:37,845
Speaker 2: So then two weeks later from there, I was in

574
00:32:37,885 --> 00:32:40,725
Speaker 2: the States and playing my very first show.

575
00:32:40,965 --> 00:32:44,205
Speaker 1: And that was that, your first time in the States. No,

576
00:32:44,365 --> 00:32:47,405
Speaker 1: I'd been in the States before drumming for other bands, right,

577
00:32:47,765 --> 00:32:49,445
Speaker 1: but in your own right.

578
00:32:50,165 --> 00:32:54,845
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first time being g G Flip And then yeah,

579
00:32:54,845 --> 00:32:59,125
Speaker 2: I had my first show as g Flip and yeah,

580
00:32:59,405 --> 00:33:01,165
Speaker 2: then it began and it never stopped.

581
00:33:02,005 --> 00:33:06,765
Speaker 1: No, it never stopped. And then concurrently with that, because

582
00:33:06,765 --> 00:33:12,045
Speaker 1: I do believe that when as an artist, particularly, the

583
00:33:12,045 --> 00:33:16,085
Speaker 1: more that you can step into yourself, the more everything

584
00:33:16,085 --> 00:33:21,725
Speaker 1: else blossoms. Yeah, and so often those things that you

585
00:33:21,765 --> 00:33:24,205
Speaker 1: grapple with about yourself or that you think you can't

586
00:33:24,245 --> 00:33:29,005
Speaker 1: share are the very things that give you that are

587
00:33:29,045 --> 00:33:35,725
Speaker 1: the wind in your wings. So with your I don't know,

588
00:33:35,885 --> 00:33:39,405
Speaker 1: do you say self discovery or your revelations about yourself

589
00:33:39,525 --> 00:33:43,565
Speaker 1: or your non binary thing, your what was the compulsion

590
00:33:43,725 --> 00:33:49,165
Speaker 1: then that you went, I just need to share this

591
00:33:49,365 --> 00:33:53,725
Speaker 1: with the famous. Hey, motherfuckers, I'm non binary.

592
00:33:53,805 --> 00:34:01,365
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess I was overtly queer, and I

593
00:34:01,405 --> 00:34:04,485
Speaker 2: had multiple partners that i'd write songs about, and you know,

594
00:34:04,645 --> 00:34:08,285
Speaker 2: my music videos, they were very queer leaning. And then

595
00:34:08,805 --> 00:34:11,325
Speaker 2: just as I evolved as a human being, I learned

596
00:34:11,405 --> 00:34:15,445
Speaker 2: about what being and I would see like Sam Smith

597
00:34:15,445 --> 00:34:17,685
Speaker 2: and Demi Levado at the time, and people would come

598
00:34:17,765 --> 00:34:22,325
Speaker 2: out non binary, and I educated myself on what that was,

599
00:34:23,245 --> 00:34:28,285
Speaker 2: and then I remember like really reading and understanding it

600
00:34:28,845 --> 00:34:33,085
Speaker 2: and then being like, oh, oh my god, that's like

601
00:34:33,845 --> 00:34:36,445
Speaker 2: so me to a t. And then when I would

602
00:34:36,485 --> 00:34:39,645
Speaker 2: try to explain being non binary to my friends or

603
00:34:39,685 --> 00:34:42,925
Speaker 2: family members, then I would kind of use myself as

604
00:34:42,925 --> 00:34:48,365
Speaker 2: an example, and it just felt it's just so me.

605
00:34:48,765 --> 00:34:49,645
Speaker 1: I just feel so.

606
00:34:49,725 --> 00:34:52,645
Speaker 2: Non binary, and if you don't get it, it's because

607
00:34:52,685 --> 00:34:56,725
Speaker 2: you're probably not non binary. Like I just feel so

608
00:34:57,125 --> 00:34:59,845
Speaker 2: like a blend of genders. I just feel like the

609
00:34:59,885 --> 00:35:04,445
Speaker 2: most gender smoothie motherfucker ever. And I felt like that

610
00:35:04,925 --> 00:35:07,045
Speaker 2: from a very young age. I'd look at myself in

611
00:35:07,085 --> 00:35:09,245
Speaker 2: the mirror and I'd be like because I went to

612
00:35:09,445 --> 00:35:13,685
Speaker 2: Catholic school, and I'd be like, wow, God, really he

613
00:35:13,845 --> 00:35:17,925
Speaker 2: ran out of girl insides and brain, and I think

614
00:35:18,045 --> 00:35:21,685
Speaker 2: he just put a bit of boy brain or insides

615
00:35:21,805 --> 00:35:25,005
Speaker 2: in me because I feel like a mix. And I'm

616
00:35:25,045 --> 00:35:28,005
Speaker 2: like seven years old, eight years old thinking that, and

617
00:35:28,045 --> 00:35:31,525
Speaker 2: then to me like, that's the most non binary thing,

618
00:35:31,765 --> 00:35:36,925
Speaker 2: for most non binary thing, for seven year old to think.

619
00:35:36,725 --> 00:35:38,565
Speaker 1: That that God made you that way.

620
00:35:39,525 --> 00:35:42,365
Speaker 2: Yeah, And obviously then there was no vocabulary for being

621
00:35:42,405 --> 00:35:44,525
Speaker 2: non binary, Like I didn't know that was a thing.

622
00:35:44,965 --> 00:35:49,485
Speaker 2: But I look back on my childhood and it just it.

623
00:35:49,725 --> 00:35:52,205
Speaker 2: Being non binary makes so much sense I've always felt.

624
00:35:52,245 --> 00:35:54,365
Speaker 2: And for every non binary person it's different where you

625
00:35:54,405 --> 00:35:57,165
Speaker 2: fall on the spectrum, but I feel pretty fifty to

626
00:35:57,165 --> 00:36:01,965
Speaker 2: fifty in the middle of like female male, mix of gender,

627
00:36:02,485 --> 00:36:05,485
Speaker 2: and that's the best way I can describe it. That's

628
00:36:05,525 --> 00:36:06,805
Speaker 2: just who I am, and I don't know how to

629
00:36:06,885 --> 00:36:10,765
Speaker 2: change it. So when people get in my DMS being hectic, it, yes,

630
00:36:10,885 --> 00:36:11,765
Speaker 2: can't change this.

631
00:36:12,325 --> 00:36:17,525
Speaker 1: Yes, when you told your family didn't make the same

632
00:36:17,725 --> 00:36:20,645
Speaker 1: sense to them, or to your mum, or to your

633
00:36:20,685 --> 00:36:25,525
Speaker 1: dad or to your sister, who who of them was

634
00:36:25,565 --> 00:36:29,445
Speaker 1: the one that was like, yeah, I see that the most.

635
00:36:29,285 --> 00:36:32,805
Speaker 2: Probably my sister the most. I feel like my mom

636
00:36:32,845 --> 00:36:37,125
Speaker 2: and dad kind of didn't understand it because it was

637
00:36:37,565 --> 00:36:41,165
Speaker 2: quite a while ago now, so I feel like now

638
00:36:41,205 --> 00:36:45,005
Speaker 2: they're so educated on it because I'm their kid, But

639
00:36:45,045 --> 00:36:49,605
Speaker 2: back then they did struggle to understand pronouns and just

640
00:36:50,405 --> 00:36:53,125
Speaker 2: figure out. And I feel like for that age group,

641
00:36:53,245 --> 00:36:56,805
Speaker 2: like they're in their early sixties, so it is kind

642
00:36:56,845 --> 00:37:00,725
Speaker 2: of harder, but for them to grapple the idea of it.

643
00:37:01,045 --> 00:37:03,165
Speaker 1: I saw your dad do a kid thing actually on

644
00:37:03,325 --> 00:37:08,725
Speaker 1: sixty Minutes where he said, sometimes I miss gender them. Yeah,

645
00:37:09,405 --> 00:37:11,645
Speaker 1: so what that is? You just ask for people to

646
00:37:11,765 --> 00:37:13,325
Speaker 1: rise to meet you. Really.

647
00:37:14,445 --> 00:37:17,725
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, and it's kind of a respect thing.

648
00:37:17,805 --> 00:37:21,325
Speaker 2: It's like, that's what I go by. And like, even

649
00:37:21,405 --> 00:37:24,765
Speaker 2: if you stuff it up and completely fail and stuff

650
00:37:24,845 --> 00:37:27,925
Speaker 2: up my pronouns, as long as you're like, oh fuck, sorry, ge,

651
00:37:28,485 --> 00:37:31,325
Speaker 2: and then you correct yourself or just correct yourself, like

652
00:37:31,365 --> 00:37:33,765
Speaker 2: so many of my mates will accidentally say she and

653
00:37:33,805 --> 00:37:36,205
Speaker 2: then be like they and then just keep talking and

654
00:37:36,725 --> 00:37:38,125
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's normal.

655
00:37:41,445 --> 00:37:44,725
Speaker 1: After this short break, g Flip takes us inside their

656
00:37:44,725 --> 00:37:52,925
Speaker 1: relationship with wife Krishelle Don't go anywhere. How was your

657
00:37:54,525 --> 00:37:59,205
Speaker 1: meeting with Chrishchelle because at that point, so she's a

658
00:37:59,245 --> 00:38:06,565
Speaker 1: massive star in the States, yes, selling Sunset. She's had

659
00:38:06,645 --> 00:38:09,045
Speaker 1: romantic entanglements on that show. She's been doing it for

660
00:38:09,045 --> 00:38:13,285
Speaker 1: so long. There's no secrets about her life. Really no.

661
00:38:14,165 --> 00:38:19,405
Speaker 1: And then you two meet, you meet at a party.

662
00:38:20,725 --> 00:38:25,965
Speaker 2: Yeah, our first meet was at a Halloween party that

663
00:38:26,085 --> 00:38:27,125
Speaker 2: tones and I had.

664
00:38:27,245 --> 00:38:30,325
Speaker 1: Ah, what was your costume?

665
00:38:31,045 --> 00:38:35,125
Speaker 2: I was a skeleton and so was Krishelle. Oh really,

666
00:38:35,685 --> 00:38:38,045
Speaker 2: so that's why we have a thing with skeletons. So

667
00:38:38,085 --> 00:38:41,325
Speaker 2: I've got skeletons tattooed on my arms and our wedding

668
00:38:41,405 --> 00:38:46,325
Speaker 2: rings have skeletons on them. Oh so, yeah we met.

669
00:38:46,605 --> 00:38:49,845
Speaker 2: She was a really hot skeleton. I got my my

670
00:38:50,405 --> 00:38:53,725
Speaker 2: I literally found like some eyeliner pencil and just like

671
00:38:54,205 --> 00:38:56,765
Speaker 2: blacked my eyes out and found like a kid's T

672
00:38:56,885 --> 00:38:59,205
Speaker 2: shirt from Target that had bones on it and run

673
00:38:59,325 --> 00:39:02,165
Speaker 2: sleeves off. So I was a fifteen buck skeleton. She

674
00:39:02,325 --> 00:39:06,845
Speaker 2: was like, I really put together good looking skeleton.

675
00:39:07,565 --> 00:39:11,565
Speaker 1: Well she is a very good looking. She's yeah, she's

676
00:39:11,685 --> 00:39:17,685
Speaker 1: insane looking. And from the moment you met the skeletons, like,

677
00:39:17,725 --> 00:39:20,445
Speaker 1: what was that moment you were introduced to each other,

678
00:39:20,525 --> 00:39:22,445
Speaker 1: or you went up and you talked to her, or

679
00:39:23,605 --> 00:39:26,765
Speaker 1: she came up to you. Can you remember your encounter

680
00:39:26,805 --> 00:39:28,805
Speaker 1: your skeleton encounter. Yeah.

681
00:39:28,965 --> 00:39:32,325
Speaker 2: First time we met was one of Tone's best mates.

682
00:39:32,485 --> 00:39:37,485
Speaker 2: Talia was at the front of this venue and was like, oh, gee,

683
00:39:37,725 --> 00:39:41,085
Speaker 2: come over, meet Kroschelle. And then I was like all right,

684
00:39:41,125 --> 00:39:43,765
Speaker 2: and then I just came over and we shook hands

685
00:39:44,085 --> 00:39:46,085
Speaker 2: and I said hey and she said hey, and then

686
00:39:46,125 --> 00:39:49,245
Speaker 2: I was like, like, you're real, like a really good

687
00:39:49,285 --> 00:39:53,045
Speaker 2: looking skeleton and I'm not so good looking skeleton. But

688
00:39:53,485 --> 00:39:57,725
Speaker 2: it wasn't like romantic or anything. It was just like

689
00:39:57,805 --> 00:40:00,085
Speaker 2: a friend group meeting a friend group. It wasn't until

690
00:40:00,245 --> 00:40:06,125
Speaker 2: like six months later or something that then some sparks

691
00:40:06,205 --> 00:40:08,645
Speaker 2: flew yeah.

692
00:40:08,285 --> 00:40:13,005
Speaker 1: Which is was I mean, probably more straightforward for you

693
00:40:14,925 --> 00:40:18,405
Speaker 1: at that time than it was for her because she

694
00:40:18,445 --> 00:40:25,365
Speaker 1: didn't think that she was gonna be a lesbian or no. Right,

695
00:40:25,485 --> 00:40:28,885
Speaker 1: she was straight as far as she knew and maybe

696
00:40:28,925 --> 00:40:31,685
Speaker 1: Stille's but loves who she loves.

697
00:40:32,405 --> 00:40:36,285
Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't really know what to call herself, Like

698
00:40:36,565 --> 00:40:39,125
Speaker 2: the word is really pan sexual, and when you're pans sexual,

699
00:40:39,165 --> 00:40:42,565
Speaker 2: you're just attracted to energy. It's not really a gender,

700
00:40:42,605 --> 00:40:47,805
Speaker 2: it's the person. But she personally hates the word pans.

701
00:40:48,125 --> 00:40:52,245
Speaker 1: It is it's sort of hard to casually toss toss

702
00:40:52,285 --> 00:40:52,725
Speaker 1: that in.

703
00:40:53,725 --> 00:40:56,685
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a kind of ugly word. So she's like, no,

704
00:40:56,805 --> 00:40:59,045
Speaker 2: I don't want to identify as that. So she just

705
00:40:59,045 --> 00:41:02,565
Speaker 2: says like she falls in love with energy and people

706
00:41:02,605 --> 00:41:04,525
Speaker 2: and who they are, and I guess you know that's

707
00:41:04,565 --> 00:41:09,285
Speaker 2: the case with us. And yeah, we've been together now

708
00:41:09,725 --> 00:41:11,485
Speaker 2: over three years.

709
00:41:11,925 --> 00:41:15,045
Speaker 1: And that's amazing because I love I've heard you tell

710
00:41:15,085 --> 00:41:19,005
Speaker 1: the story about when you asked her out after you'd

711
00:41:19,005 --> 00:41:23,085
Speaker 1: had a couple of you know, encounters, and she said,

712
00:41:23,165 --> 00:41:25,805
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, ye I'm straight.

713
00:41:26,885 --> 00:41:33,085
Speaker 2: Yes she did, but you were like, I just thought, well,

714
00:41:33,125 --> 00:41:38,685
Speaker 2: we haven't been been very straight together recently, That's what

715
00:41:38,765 --> 00:41:41,485
Speaker 2: I thought. Like the last few times we've had little

716
00:41:41,605 --> 00:41:45,725
Speaker 2: kisses here and there that wasn't very straight, darling, But yeah,

717
00:41:45,765 --> 00:41:48,405
Speaker 2: that's what I thought. But I just said, oh, okay,

718
00:41:48,525 --> 00:41:53,165
Speaker 2: no worries. And then a few like a week after,

719
00:41:53,285 --> 00:41:55,765
Speaker 2: I sent her some houses that I was because she's

720
00:41:55,805 --> 00:41:58,165
Speaker 2: a real estate agent and I was going to try

721
00:41:59,325 --> 00:42:03,165
Speaker 2: rent a house in La after tour my tour finished,

722
00:42:03,765 --> 00:42:05,485
Speaker 2: So I sent her some houses and I was like,

723
00:42:05,605 --> 00:42:07,565
Speaker 2: is this a good price range for where it is

724
00:42:07,565 --> 00:42:12,125
Speaker 2: in the location and whatever, And then she offered to

725
00:42:13,565 --> 00:42:17,445
Speaker 2: come and look at the houses with me, and then

726
00:42:17,845 --> 00:42:21,725
Speaker 2: that was our first date. A did you know at

727
00:42:21,725 --> 00:42:23,685
Speaker 2: the time it was a date or it was only

728
00:42:23,725 --> 00:42:28,045
Speaker 2: in retrospect. I think I knew it was a because yeah,

729
00:42:28,125 --> 00:42:30,445
Speaker 2: in my head, she just told me she was straight

730
00:42:30,925 --> 00:42:34,245
Speaker 2: and not interested. And then when I rocked up to

731
00:42:34,285 --> 00:42:38,485
Speaker 2: the house, I was in the car and I looked

732
00:42:38,485 --> 00:42:40,765
Speaker 2: out the window and saw her walking down the road

733
00:42:40,845 --> 00:42:45,725
Speaker 2: to the house and she was like adjusting her face

734
00:42:45,845 --> 00:42:51,445
Speaker 2: makeup or something and looking incredible, Like I knew she'd

735
00:42:51,445 --> 00:42:55,685
Speaker 2: taken time to get ready. And she remembers like in

736
00:42:55,765 --> 00:42:58,445
Speaker 2: her words, she would say like when she was getting

737
00:42:58,485 --> 00:43:00,845
Speaker 2: ready that day, she was getting ready like she was

738
00:43:00,885 --> 00:43:03,565
Speaker 2: going to meet someone that she had a crush on,

739
00:43:03,645 --> 00:43:06,005
Speaker 2: like took that extra time and tried on different dresses

740
00:43:06,045 --> 00:43:08,685
Speaker 2: and no, not this. And so then that's kind of

741
00:43:08,725 --> 00:43:11,805
Speaker 2: when it clicked in her brain. And I think it

742
00:43:11,845 --> 00:43:15,325
Speaker 2: clicked in mind because I was looking at like her

743
00:43:15,365 --> 00:43:18,165
Speaker 2: walking down the street looking like an absolute fox. And

744
00:43:18,205 --> 00:43:22,165
Speaker 2: then also just like she was doing something like putting

745
00:43:22,525 --> 00:43:25,845
Speaker 2: lip stuff on or something. And then we were just

746
00:43:25,925 --> 00:43:28,085
Speaker 2: at this house showing and we were just flirted the

747
00:43:28,125 --> 00:43:31,725
Speaker 2: whole time, and then it never the flirting never.

748
00:43:31,645 --> 00:43:35,445
Speaker 1: Ended, and it still hasn't ended, even though now you're

749
00:43:35,445 --> 00:43:38,605
Speaker 1: an old married couple. Yeah.

750
00:43:38,765 --> 00:43:42,485
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do a wedding once a year. We reknew

751
00:43:42,485 --> 00:43:46,325
Speaker 2: our vows. It kind of started because our first wedding

752
00:43:46,485 --> 00:43:50,685
Speaker 2: was so shotgun. We married after three months kind of dating,

753
00:43:51,485 --> 00:43:53,565
Speaker 2: which I think a lot of the world think we

754
00:43:53,645 --> 00:43:57,525
Speaker 2: got married like a year later, when really we.

755
00:43:57,485 --> 00:44:02,045
Speaker 1: Got We kept it a secret because yeah, we got married.

756
00:44:01,805 --> 00:44:05,005
Speaker 2: Like three months after we started fully kind of dating.

757
00:44:05,845 --> 00:44:11,445
Speaker 2: And then obviously we called our family and we decided

758
00:44:11,525 --> 00:44:13,925
Speaker 2: the day of because we worked out we both had

759
00:44:13,925 --> 00:44:16,485
Speaker 2: the day off the next day, so then we ended

760
00:44:16,565 --> 00:44:19,885
Speaker 2: up deciding to go to Vegas and get married. Anyway,

761
00:44:19,965 --> 00:44:22,645
Speaker 2: we called all our friends and family and they were

762
00:44:22,685 --> 00:44:25,445
Speaker 2: all kind of like, what do you mean, Like they

763
00:44:25,445 --> 00:44:27,405
Speaker 2: were very happy for us, but they were sad they

764
00:44:27,405 --> 00:44:30,445
Speaker 2: were missing it. So we said, don't worry, we're going

765
00:44:30,485 --> 00:44:31,405
Speaker 2: to do another one.

766
00:44:31,525 --> 00:44:34,365
Speaker 1: Like so, then we're going to do another one.

767
00:44:34,405 --> 00:44:36,725
Speaker 2: So then the next one was in Palm Springs so

768
00:44:36,845 --> 00:44:39,005
Speaker 2: that our friends in LA could come, and then my

769
00:44:39,125 --> 00:44:42,365
Speaker 2: family's like, but we can't make it, so we're like, yeah, okay,

770
00:44:42,365 --> 00:44:44,765
Speaker 2: we'll do another one. So then we did another one

771
00:44:44,885 --> 00:44:48,005
Speaker 2: in Australia with all my family, and then this year

772
00:44:48,165 --> 00:44:50,165
Speaker 2: we had other friends that missed out, so then we

773
00:44:50,205 --> 00:44:52,445
Speaker 2: were like, Okay, we'll do it, and then it just became.

774
00:44:52,205 --> 00:44:53,205
Speaker 1: The Wedding World Tour.

775
00:44:53,765 --> 00:44:56,885
Speaker 2: So now we do a wedding every year, and you know,

776
00:44:56,925 --> 00:45:00,285
Speaker 2: we're covering the base of a big wedding, which we

777
00:45:00,365 --> 00:45:03,125
Speaker 2: probably that most people have with over one hundred guests.

778
00:45:03,165 --> 00:45:06,485
Speaker 2: We're just slowly getting to all one hundred guests world War.

779
00:45:06,365 --> 00:45:11,485
Speaker 1: Ten at a time. Yes, and what like your last

780
00:45:11,565 --> 00:45:14,965
Speaker 1: one was it? It was medieval? Was it then medieval?

781
00:45:15,005 --> 00:45:17,885
Speaker 1: And you are were you a knight? I don't know

782
00:45:17,925 --> 00:45:20,445
Speaker 1: what I was? Yeah, what were you? Was it a

783
00:45:20,445 --> 00:45:25,605
Speaker 1: costume shop or was it? No? So arn't directed?

784
00:45:26,645 --> 00:45:30,245
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, So all our weddings are planned one week

785
00:45:30,285 --> 00:45:33,325
Speaker 2: in advance or less because our whole thing with weddings

786
00:45:33,365 --> 00:45:35,805
Speaker 2: is we don't want to be stressed because we hate

787
00:45:35,845 --> 00:45:37,725
Speaker 2: stress for weddings and it should be our love.

788
00:45:38,845 --> 00:45:41,045
Speaker 1: So everything is so last minute planned.

789
00:45:41,845 --> 00:45:45,045
Speaker 2: So really I had to just look on Amazon and

790
00:45:45,085 --> 00:45:50,565
Speaker 2: see what could get delivered in time, and I bought.

791
00:45:50,445 --> 00:45:53,885
Speaker 1: What was the description? What was the description of the costume?

792
00:45:54,805 --> 00:46:01,485
Speaker 2: Some like Renaissance medieval royal coat? Yeah, And then and

793
00:46:01,525 --> 00:46:04,245
Speaker 2: then I bought a sort. I like the thought of

794
00:46:04,285 --> 00:46:06,765
Speaker 2: having a sword that was called to me, So I

795
00:46:06,845 --> 00:46:10,925
Speaker 2: bought a foam sword and a a sword holder, and

796
00:46:10,965 --> 00:46:13,725
Speaker 2: then I wore some of Krashelle's like leggings from her

797
00:46:13,765 --> 00:46:16,565
Speaker 2: fitness and then I just wore these boots that I'm

798
00:46:16,605 --> 00:46:17,445
Speaker 2: wearing right now.

799
00:46:18,285 --> 00:46:20,685
Speaker 1: It was gorgeous. It was a bit Zelderish too.

800
00:46:21,805 --> 00:46:24,725
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a bit fantasy, and when I'm like

801
00:46:25,005 --> 00:46:27,565
Speaker 2: into that stuff. It was kind of a joke, like

802
00:46:28,245 --> 00:46:30,605
Speaker 2: it was a week out from when we're meant to

803
00:46:30,645 --> 00:46:32,805
Speaker 2: be getting married, because we always have to do it

804
00:46:32,845 --> 00:46:35,965
Speaker 2: in July, and I think it was Kroshelle was just like,

805
00:46:36,485 --> 00:46:38,885
Speaker 2: what was if we did a medieval wedding, and I

806
00:46:38,965 --> 00:46:40,485
Speaker 2: just looked at it. I was like, oh my god,

807
00:46:40,525 --> 00:46:43,565
Speaker 2: that's so funny, Like we should get a loop player.

808
00:46:43,605 --> 00:46:45,445
Speaker 2: And then H's like, we should get people who fight

809
00:46:45,485 --> 00:46:49,125
Speaker 2: with swords, and we just were making each other laugh.

810
00:46:49,245 --> 00:46:52,405
Speaker 2: And then we happened to look on Airbnb and there

811
00:46:52,485 --> 00:46:56,205
Speaker 2: was a castle around the corner that you could hire

812
00:46:56,725 --> 00:46:59,725
Speaker 2: just as an Airbnb. So then we were like, all right,

813
00:46:59,805 --> 00:47:02,525
Speaker 2: let's book it and then let's find some people to

814
00:47:02,565 --> 00:47:03,525
Speaker 2: fight with some swords.

815
00:47:03,925 --> 00:47:09,085
Speaker 1: You jousted, You jousted like you've barely jousted and in

816
00:47:09,965 --> 00:47:14,285
Speaker 1: the relationship between the two of you is very lovely,

817
00:47:15,005 --> 00:47:19,365
Speaker 1: and the happiness between you is you know, it's when

818
00:47:19,405 --> 00:47:22,725
Speaker 1: you talk before about trolls and stuff, I'm like, partly,

819
00:47:22,725 --> 00:47:26,685
Speaker 1: I'm like, who can be bothered trolling in the face

820
00:47:26,725 --> 00:47:31,685
Speaker 1: of what is objectively pure happiness?

821
00:47:32,245 --> 00:47:37,605
Speaker 2: Yeah, still happens. Still, people think, still think that our

822
00:47:37,645 --> 00:47:41,645
Speaker 2: relationships fake, and we find that funny because God, we

823
00:47:41,765 --> 00:47:45,165
Speaker 2: hang out all the time. Imagine having a pr relationship

824
00:47:45,205 --> 00:47:47,645
Speaker 2: having to hang out with each other all day.

825
00:47:47,565 --> 00:47:52,325
Speaker 1: And especially especially in Hollywood, because have you noticed as

826
00:47:52,365 --> 00:47:54,685
Speaker 1: an Australian I think part of the reason they love

827
00:47:54,725 --> 00:47:58,645
Speaker 1: you is that you've got this really authentic, almost kind

828
00:47:58,645 --> 00:48:03,285
Speaker 1: of old fashioned Australian energy, you know, Alarican and a

829
00:48:03,325 --> 00:48:07,125
Speaker 1: bit relaxed and have a laugh instead of getting angry

830
00:48:07,165 --> 00:48:11,525
Speaker 1: and being open instead of close the doors. So that

831
00:48:11,685 --> 00:48:13,445
Speaker 1: to Hollywood must have been a shock.

832
00:48:14,445 --> 00:48:18,685
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think honestly, just Krishelle not being

833
00:48:18,725 --> 00:48:21,285
Speaker 2: with a man was the biggest shock. I think that

834
00:48:21,365 --> 00:48:25,165
Speaker 2: really took Americans. And you know a lot of the

835
00:48:25,245 --> 00:48:30,285
Speaker 2: selling Sunset fan base isn't you know in states where

836
00:48:30,285 --> 00:48:33,645
Speaker 2: it's you know, really common to have queer relationships like

837
00:48:33,685 --> 00:48:38,085
Speaker 2: Middle America's very like you know, tradition. It's yeah, it's

838
00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:41,485
Speaker 2: trad it's like so it was really shocking to see

839
00:48:41,885 --> 00:48:44,965
Speaker 2: her in a not with like a six foot man, you.

840
00:48:45,005 --> 00:48:45,805
Speaker 1: Know, like it was.

841
00:48:46,685 --> 00:48:50,565
Speaker 2: It really made people crazy, and especially at that time

842
00:48:50,605 --> 00:48:54,685
Speaker 2: when we came out public in a relationship, like the

843
00:48:54,845 --> 00:48:59,485
Speaker 2: dms and just the the things that you just I

844
00:48:59,565 --> 00:49:03,925
Speaker 2: just couldn't believe how much it affected people's days. Like,

845
00:49:04,525 --> 00:49:07,485
Speaker 2: you know, there'd be a Karen in Middle America just

846
00:49:07,565 --> 00:49:09,925
Speaker 2: sweeping and then they'd be just so angry and then

847
00:49:09,965 --> 00:49:12,245
Speaker 2: they'd have to get on their phone to like message

848
00:49:12,285 --> 00:49:14,845
Speaker 2: me because they're just so furious that.

849
00:49:15,405 --> 00:49:17,725
Speaker 1: I'm with her. So yeah, it was.

850
00:49:17,765 --> 00:49:21,685
Speaker 2: It was very eye opening to me about how people

851
00:49:21,765 --> 00:49:24,485
Speaker 2: are homophobic or you.

852
00:49:24,485 --> 00:49:29,645
Speaker 1: Know, scared or fearful, fearful of things, because I think

853
00:49:29,805 --> 00:49:32,725
Speaker 1: fear and anger live kind of close to each other.

854
00:49:34,165 --> 00:49:37,525
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really interesting and it still happens, to

855
00:49:37,525 --> 00:49:40,405
Speaker 2: be honest, I'm still getting dms that people are so

856
00:49:40,525 --> 00:49:43,445
Speaker 2: upset with my gender or that I'm with Koshelle, or

857
00:49:43,445 --> 00:49:46,805
Speaker 2: that I'm queer, or you know, people are just they're

858
00:49:46,845 --> 00:49:50,525
Speaker 2: angry at it. But it really just you know, in

859
00:49:50,565 --> 00:49:53,405
Speaker 2: the end. It kind of does amuse me that someone

860
00:49:53,525 --> 00:49:56,525
Speaker 2: is literally driving to the shops to buy some cereal

861
00:49:56,605 --> 00:49:59,245
Speaker 2: and bread and milk and they just have to pull

862
00:49:59,245 --> 00:50:02,165
Speaker 2: the car over to like message me how angry angry

863
00:50:02,205 --> 00:50:05,445
Speaker 2: they are, Like, what a crazy way to live. You

864
00:50:05,525 --> 00:50:10,845
Speaker 2: know that you're just ticked off by someone exists, But.

865
00:50:11,485 --> 00:50:13,405
Speaker 1: What you continue to do in the face of that

866
00:50:13,565 --> 00:50:16,365
Speaker 1: is exist even more fully.

867
00:50:17,845 --> 00:50:22,165
Speaker 2: Yeah, one, you know, I would never dull myself down.

868
00:50:24,165 --> 00:50:26,205
Speaker 1: And by the way, on an unrelated note, I was

869
00:50:26,245 --> 00:50:28,725
Speaker 1: also doing the project the night Krischelle came in, which

870
00:50:28,765 --> 00:50:34,165
Speaker 1: was not long ago. Oh my goodness that the response

871
00:50:34,245 --> 00:50:42,485
Speaker 1: to her was so beautiful, just so beautiful. Yeah, she's

872
00:50:42,525 --> 00:50:46,685
Speaker 1: she's a great one. I know, I've really lucked out.

873
00:50:47,565 --> 00:50:48,165
Speaker 1: She's an Arab.

874
00:50:49,445 --> 00:50:54,645
Speaker 2: When my family found out, like we're seriously going to

875
00:50:54,645 --> 00:50:56,885
Speaker 2: be together, it wasn't just like a little fling. They

876
00:50:56,925 --> 00:51:00,325
Speaker 2: all cried. They were like because they just thought she

877
00:51:00,485 --> 00:51:02,805
Speaker 2: was the best person they ever met.

878
00:51:02,885 --> 00:51:06,765
Speaker 1: So, you know, because Chrischelle's just spoken recently and I've

879
00:51:07,125 --> 00:51:10,925
Speaker 1: heard you speak before too about and Krishelle's always been

880
00:51:10,965 --> 00:51:14,045
Speaker 1: really open about the fact that she wants to have babies. Yes,

881
00:51:15,005 --> 00:51:17,445
Speaker 1: and recently she came out and said that that wasn't

882
00:51:17,485 --> 00:51:19,645
Speaker 1: working out so well.

883
00:51:21,245 --> 00:51:26,405
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last few years, to be honest, it's an IVF.

884
00:51:26,445 --> 00:51:30,085
Speaker 2: It's been a real struggle and we've had so many, gods,

885
00:51:30,165 --> 00:51:32,405
Speaker 2: so many ups and downs. And for anyone that goes

886
00:51:32,485 --> 00:51:36,525
Speaker 2: through that whole process, like, it really takes a toll.

887
00:51:36,565 --> 00:51:41,085
Speaker 2: And there's you know, hopeful moments and then sad moments,

888
00:51:41,125 --> 00:51:42,525
Speaker 2: and then there's a little bit of hope and then

889
00:51:42,525 --> 00:51:46,125
Speaker 2: it all backfires and then it's going starting again. So yeah,

890
00:51:46,165 --> 00:51:51,085
Speaker 2: it's definitely been uh And the hormones. The hormones are

891
00:51:51,245 --> 00:51:56,285
Speaker 2: rough hormones. And the amount of needles, like it's crazy.

892
00:51:56,365 --> 00:52:01,725
Speaker 2: And surgeries and she's such a baller though. Whenever Krishelle

893
00:52:01,885 --> 00:52:05,925
Speaker 2: has surgeries or has to go through anything where the

894
00:52:06,005 --> 00:52:09,165
Speaker 2: doctor might give you pain medication, majority of the time

895
00:52:09,405 --> 00:52:12,485
Speaker 2: she doesn't even take the medication. She's just a baller,

896
00:52:12,605 --> 00:52:17,765
Speaker 2: Like her pain tolerance is insane. Like, so she's such

897
00:52:17,805 --> 00:52:21,285
Speaker 2: a tough cookie. And you know, I admire, I admire

898
00:52:21,405 --> 00:52:24,485
Speaker 2: just everything and how strong she is and how she's

899
00:52:24,605 --> 00:52:27,405
Speaker 2: taking all, you know, the news that we get and

900
00:52:27,645 --> 00:52:32,485
Speaker 2: she's just she's so amazing, and she's such a brilliant

901
00:52:32,565 --> 00:52:35,605
Speaker 2: and strong human being. For everything she's gone through, not

902
00:52:35,685 --> 00:52:39,365
Speaker 2: only with this whole process we're going through, but also

903
00:52:39,405 --> 00:52:41,965
Speaker 2: her whole life, Like her story is pretty amazing. What

904
00:52:42,685 --> 00:52:46,285
Speaker 2: she's got through to get to where she has. Her

905
00:52:46,405 --> 00:52:50,725
Speaker 2: childhood was nothing like you would think, and it's completely

906
00:52:50,765 --> 00:52:54,565
Speaker 2: the opposite. So I just admire every everything about her

907
00:52:54,565 --> 00:52:55,605
Speaker 2: and where she's come from.

908
00:52:56,565 --> 00:53:00,325
Speaker 1: You're very yin and yang. You know there's something together

909
00:53:00,565 --> 00:53:04,445
Speaker 1: that's so whole. With the two of you together. I

910
00:53:04,485 --> 00:53:09,045
Speaker 1: hope you're I hope your every dream comes true together

911
00:53:10,485 --> 00:53:14,685
Speaker 1: because you were delightful and individually. Thank you for your

912
00:53:15,205 --> 00:53:20,445
Speaker 1: gift of music and really being a great ambassador for Australia,

913
00:53:21,005 --> 00:53:24,245
Speaker 1: which life not every Australian is. But I truly believe

914
00:53:24,325 --> 00:53:27,485
Speaker 1: that your spirit and you get up and go is

915
00:53:28,765 --> 00:53:32,805
Speaker 1: just glorious. That's very sweet. That's going to make me cry.

916
00:53:34,525 --> 00:53:37,125
Speaker 1: The future is a big place. You have to narrow

917
00:53:37,125 --> 00:53:41,965
Speaker 1: it down slightly to what is coming up. It's dream Ride.

918
00:53:42,205 --> 00:53:45,685
Speaker 2: Yes, album's coming out September fifth. It's called dream Ride.

919
00:53:45,765 --> 00:53:50,085
Speaker 2: It's a very eighties esque kind of album. I went

920
00:53:50,165 --> 00:53:54,285
Speaker 2: really hard into the eighties world sonically, with like big

921
00:53:54,365 --> 00:53:57,245
Speaker 2: reverb on the drums, and you know every drum is

922
00:53:57,285 --> 00:54:00,805
Speaker 2: me playing it and a lot of sax solos and

923
00:54:00,885 --> 00:54:04,605
Speaker 2: synth solos, and yeah, I'm really excited to release this

924
00:54:04,725 --> 00:54:06,365
Speaker 2: record on September fifth.

925
00:54:06,525 --> 00:54:08,205
Speaker 1: We look forward to seeing you very much.

926
00:54:09,405 --> 00:54:12,925
Speaker 2: Yes, So I'm coming back to Australia late feb and

927
00:54:13,085 --> 00:54:17,765
Speaker 2: March to play shows in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth.

928
00:54:18,725 --> 00:54:20,605
Speaker 2: And I can't wait to come and play shows. Playing

929
00:54:20,605 --> 00:54:23,525
Speaker 2: shows is my favorite part about my job, and I

930
00:54:23,645 --> 00:54:25,605
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time trying to make my live

931
00:54:25,685 --> 00:54:28,365
Speaker 2: show as good as possible. And I've been working on

932
00:54:28,405 --> 00:54:30,645
Speaker 2: it the last week and yeah, it's going to be

933
00:54:30,725 --> 00:54:33,125
Speaker 2: a ripper. So I can't wait and hope hopefully some

934
00:54:33,165 --> 00:54:35,125
Speaker 2: people come out to see me. It's going to be good.

935
00:54:35,685 --> 00:54:41,245
Speaker 2: Oh I think they will. Jenny's brother comes to my

936
00:54:41,325 --> 00:54:44,205
Speaker 2: shows and they have a little girl who's a huge

937
00:54:44,325 --> 00:54:48,285
Speaker 2: G Flip fan, their little daughter, so Jenny's niece.

938
00:54:48,445 --> 00:54:50,525
Speaker 1: So it's very very cute.

939
00:54:50,565 --> 00:54:54,205
Speaker 2: And my last show I played in Melbourne, Jenny's brow

940
00:54:54,285 --> 00:54:56,445
Speaker 2: and his wife came to that show and they gave

941
00:54:56,485 --> 00:54:59,405
Speaker 2: me a pair of Jenny's last drumsticks, which is really special.

942
00:54:59,925 --> 00:55:05,005
Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, it was really niceh Just the power

943
00:55:05,085 --> 00:55:09,845
Speaker 2: of a teacher I know, and that's what me beat

944
00:55:09,885 --> 00:55:12,005
Speaker 2: want to be a drum teacher. So then I followed

945
00:55:12,005 --> 00:55:14,405
Speaker 2: in her, and then when she passed, I took over

946
00:55:14,445 --> 00:55:16,405
Speaker 2: a lot of her drum students as well.

947
00:55:17,085 --> 00:55:20,925
Speaker 1: And then you drop them to be Jefly now, and

948
00:55:20,965 --> 00:55:23,885
Speaker 1: then I became Jefly. Then I couldn't teach them anymore.

949
00:55:25,725 --> 00:55:28,685
Speaker 2: But yeah, so yeah, Jenny's a big part and I

950
00:55:28,725 --> 00:55:31,165
Speaker 2: have Jenny related tattoos all over my body too.

951
00:55:32,405 --> 00:55:36,325
Speaker 1: You deserve everything good? And also what did you take?

952
00:55:36,565 --> 00:55:39,405
Speaker 1: What do you take to Kara Delvine's party? What was

953
00:55:39,445 --> 00:55:42,565
Speaker 1: in that big box? What was it? What was it?

954
00:55:44,125 --> 00:55:45,605
Speaker 1: Do you want to know? Yeah?

955
00:55:45,925 --> 00:55:49,845
Speaker 2: I was like, I was literally like, this is really funny.

956
00:55:50,005 --> 00:55:52,245
Speaker 2: I'll Kara in bind me to the party. And I

957
00:55:52,285 --> 00:55:54,085
Speaker 2: texted her and I was like, I'm getting you. I'm

958
00:55:54,085 --> 00:55:56,605
Speaker 2: going to get you a real strange present. She's like

959
00:55:56,645 --> 00:55:59,285
Speaker 2: I can't wait looking forward to it. And then I

960
00:55:59,365 --> 00:56:01,845
Speaker 2: was thinking, what do you get a girl that has

961
00:56:01,885 --> 00:56:04,045
Speaker 2: it all, like she's got everything?

962
00:56:04,165 --> 00:56:05,045
Speaker 1: What do you get her?

963
00:56:05,245 --> 00:56:08,325
Speaker 2: And I was like, I bet she doesn't own bagpipes?

964
00:56:12,765 --> 00:56:16,765
Speaker 2: So that photo were present, there's bagpipes?

965
00:56:17,005 --> 00:56:22,685
Speaker 1: This yeah, yeah, all right, I guarantee you something and

966
00:56:22,685 --> 00:56:25,125
Speaker 1: that is that you g Flip will learn to play

967
00:56:25,165 --> 00:56:26,445
Speaker 1: them before she does.

968
00:56:27,485 --> 00:56:29,805
Speaker 2: Do you know what when I bought her the bagpipes,

969
00:56:29,845 --> 00:56:34,285
Speaker 2: I might have bought myself some pipes too, Yeah, but

970
00:56:34,365 --> 00:56:34,965
Speaker 2: she loved them.

971
00:56:35,005 --> 00:56:39,645
Speaker 1: She thought they were great. Oh that's great, that's great. Well,

972
00:56:39,725 --> 00:56:44,085
Speaker 1: god speed to you. Thanks for joining us on no Filter.

973
00:56:44,925 --> 00:56:49,045
Speaker 1: Thank you for showing yourself. Ah, thank you so much, Kate.

974
00:56:49,125 --> 00:56:51,685
Speaker 1: I remember driving from Dingley.

975
00:56:51,405 --> 00:56:54,285
Speaker 2: Village to Cheltenham to go to school every morning and

976
00:56:54,365 --> 00:56:58,245
Speaker 2: listening to you in the car and your voice has

977
00:56:58,285 --> 00:57:01,325
Speaker 2: always been such a calming, warm energy. So that's where

978
00:57:01,325 --> 00:57:03,845
Speaker 2: I tear up, because you're like always grown up with

979
00:57:03,885 --> 00:57:04,365
Speaker 2: you at round.

980
00:57:04,485 --> 00:57:09,685
Speaker 1: So I love it. I love you es Kate, Okay,

981
00:57:09,685 --> 00:57:16,485
Speaker 1: I love you two, kre. I think to know g

982
00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:22,245
Speaker 1: Flip is to love g Flip because, like I said

983
00:57:22,245 --> 00:57:27,805
Speaker 1: to them in our chat, there's something quintessentially Australian about them,

984
00:57:27,965 --> 00:57:31,565
Speaker 1: a sense of mischief, a sense of joy, a sense

985
00:57:31,605 --> 00:57:39,285
Speaker 1: of she'll be right, but also so cool, so themselves,

986
00:57:39,645 --> 00:57:43,685
Speaker 1: so talented. G Flip has really done it all, from

987
00:57:44,445 --> 00:57:50,885
Speaker 1: chart topping jams to the emotional rollercoaster of IVF. They

988
00:57:50,965 --> 00:57:54,125
Speaker 1: fell hard and fast for Chrishelle along the way and

989
00:57:54,165 --> 00:57:57,645
Speaker 1: are really making it work. And I think there's magic

990
00:57:57,965 --> 00:58:02,365
Speaker 1: in someone who lives their life full volume and flips

991
00:58:02,365 --> 00:58:05,325
Speaker 1: the script at every turn, or should I say g

992
00:58:05,485 --> 00:58:09,205
Speaker 1: flips the script. Make sure you subscribe to No Filter

993
00:58:09,725 --> 00:58:13,245
Speaker 1: because the world needs more voices like this and we

994
00:58:13,405 --> 00:58:16,805
Speaker 1: deserve to hear them. The executive producer of No Filter

995
00:58:16,885 --> 00:58:21,205
Speaker 1: is Nama Brown, the senior producer is bre Player. Audio

996
00:58:21,245 --> 00:58:24,365
Speaker 1: production is by Jacob Brown and video editing is by

997
00:58:24,445 --> 00:58:28,925
Speaker 1: Josh Green. This episode was recorded with Session in Progress

998
00:58:28,965 --> 00:58:33,765
Speaker 1: Studios and I'm your host, Kate Laine Brook. Thank you

999
00:58:33,885 --> 00:58:34,925
Speaker 1: so much for listening.