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Speaker 3: Busy and happy are not the same thing. We too,

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Speaker 3: rarely question what makes the heart seeing. We work, then

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Speaker 3: there's more than one way. So this is a platform

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Speaker 3: to hear and explore the stories of those who found

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Speaker 3: lives they adore, the good, bad and ugly, the best

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Speaker 3: and worst day will bear all the facets of seizing

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Speaker 3: your Yeay. I'm Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah,

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Speaker 3: a lawyer turned funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels

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Speaker 3: to co found Matcha Maiden and Matcha Milk Bar.

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Speaker 1: Cz Ya is a series.

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Speaker 3: Of conversations on finding a life you love and exploring

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Speaker 3: the self doubt, challenge, joy.

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Speaker 1: And fulfillment along the way. Welcome back, Lovely neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure I even have words to describe our

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Speaker 3: first few minutes, the journey just to make it to

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Speaker 3: their own trailblazing and already chart topping podcast, Vanish. As

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Speaker 3: I have been furiously taking notes. I personally also find

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Speaker 3: While I feel absolutely comfortable calling Beck and national treasure,

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Speaker 1: You're so good at making this. Sorry, unhired.

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Speaker 2: His swing's always been four on, four off for like ever.

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Speaker 2: We'd have one hundred dollars to do the groceries every week.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't It was very different. She goes and

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Speaker 5: All the parents are like watching me at Cole's going,

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Speaker 3: I really think people forget that, like they the things

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Speaker 1: We didn't have a lot, you know. All my school

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Speaker 1: But it was the best upbringing we didn't need. Looking

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Speaker 3: But I think the other thing people often underestimate about

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Speaker 3: I genuinely think that people like to skate over that chapter.

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Speaker 2: That I feel like I've always been a high achiever

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when it comes to working with brands or creating

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Speaker 2: We never follow, we always lead and make it better

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Speaker 1: And I feel like that's where I bring my intellect. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like I'm not going to do anything unless it's a

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Speaker 2: ten out of ten, right, so we throw everything into it.

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Speaker 3: What about your relationship over the years, and I've heard

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Speaker 3: I also think there's kind of like power in underestimation,

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Speaker 3: like not giv me a fuck. Now, I just how

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Speaker 3: it was your relationship changed. I just could not care

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Speaker 3: less and I don't actually think I ever did. And

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Speaker 3: You know you so much more than that, so you

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Speaker 2: Go with yeah, but looking back, like I always gave

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Speaker 2: there's so much more to me, and that I would

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Speaker 2: focus my energy on family work. I've always been so

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Speaker 2: busy that I'm not going to sit around contemplating, well are.

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Speaker 1: People calling me a wag? Like, actually give zero shits?

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Speaker 1: And now I'm influence, which is like another you know,

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Speaker 2: Does it change the way I work or how people

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Speaker 2: see me? No, it's just a label. I honestly give

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's also been something that's always shone

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Speaker 1: They're like, why would I give the energy to get

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Speaker 1: limited enemy anyway? Bigger problems to deal blows up with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but speaking of different labels, Ruth tavetas.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 3: Before we move into Jess and then into Vanish, I

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Speaker 1: The iconic Yes, she's a designer, not just.

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Speaker 3: A moment, an iconic moment in your trajectory. And we

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows the red dress moment. You say red dress moment,

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Speaker 1: What was that like? Did you know it would go inside?

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Speaker 1: Did you have any idea?

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Speaker 2: I was just a girl from Perth, you know, being

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Speaker 2: We've just got our own thing going on over there.

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Speaker 2: So lots of people were wearing that style of dress

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Speaker 2: So and then I was seeing Ruth Tavitas and I said,

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Speaker 1: And she goes, I've got this one.

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Speaker 2: This person wore it in black class week, but I've

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Speaker 3: Cool, wait, the week before you were just like dress.

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Speaker 1: My mom always says I look good in red because

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Speaker 1: I look good at red. That's kind of how it

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Speaker 2: So when I went out onto the red carpet in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like, you know, you couldn't check to see

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Speaker 1: It was like in Perth that was the trends. So

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Speaker 2: But also you look at the papers and you look

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Speaker 2: papers when you see what everyone was wearing. And I

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Speaker 2: think what exacerbated the situation was that my boyfriend won

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Speaker 2: the Brown Law matter that night, and when he's through

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Speaker 2: to me and speech, and because I was Hollywood taped

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Speaker 1: And then that was the moment.

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Speaker 2: That everyone used in their press clippings the next day

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Speaker 1: My boyfriend just won the Brown Loom. We're at twenty

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Speaker 2: of the week then, because Chris then had to go

441
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 2: in the Grand Final parade, and as the Brown Loan winner,

442
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 2: You've got a lot of media commitments that week leading

443
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 2: up to the AFL Grand Final, so we were meant

444
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: to go home to perthe like you got to stay now.

445
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: So Chris goes to me, We've got to stay Crown

446
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 1: because I won. They're upgrading us. How good, liven.

447
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: This is the best week of my life. I had

448
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 2: a store, it was a Cactus Jam at the time.

449
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 2: That will dress you for all your media events as we.

450
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: Want getting dressed. I'm a Crown, this is a live and.

451
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: I remember the next day Chris's manager, Paul Connors said

452
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: where are you? And I said, I'm just in the room.

453
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to come down. I'm gonna go for a walk.

454
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Eaxport, Melbourne. He goes, and he goes.

455
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: There's every BLS media camera. It's down in the lobby

456
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: Crown waiting for you to get a photo of you.

457
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 2: You're on the front page of every paper. Darren Hinch's

458
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: on the phone wants to interview you for his show.

459
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: And I just went, oh shit. And then I just

460
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: stayed in the suite and I didn't leave for like

461
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 1: four days. I don't know what to do, and then

462
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: people are calling saying I've spoken to your mum and

463
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: your dad and even baby photos, and then all of

464
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: a sudden, like, can we just shut this ship down?

465
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: I am not ready. That's what I thought it would

466
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: be nice giving your breath. I'm we just won't meet.

467
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: We weren't ready for the media onslaugh. Yeah, anyways, baptism

468
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 1: the fire and yeah, here we are. Do you remember it?

469
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: Did you have?

470
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 7: So?

471
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 6: Hang on?

472
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 4: When you what how old were you when you did

473
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,959
Speaker 4: that dress? You would have been twelve thirteen? Yeah, And

474
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: like I was in Queensland, so Queensland's not into AFL okay.

475
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 3: So tell us about the beginnings of Jesse. Maybe this

476
00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: is why you guys get on so well because you're

477
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 3: also Elpham girl moved to noose up so.

478
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: Born in red working class. Yes, to work in class.

479
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: And Queensland and Perth I think have that like outdoors down.

480
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: You have to use your imagination.

481
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 4: And I'm born in Melbourne and lived in Eltham and

482
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: I did primary school in Eltham. My dad is a builder,

483
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 4: so he was constantly renovating her house. And it's like

484
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 4: never marrying a builder because your house has never finished.

485
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 4: That was my upbringing. I never lived in a finished house.

486
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 4: You guys see like caravan caravan. Lived in a caravan

487
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 4: for a bit. I remember we had an outside toilet

488
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 4: for co steam out there.

489
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 1: It got to the pot.

490
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 4: We had no shower and the septic tank that was underground.

491
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 4: That is where you do all your toilet running and

492
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: your shower, like that big septic thing underground. It's so cold.

493
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 4: I would have to get up in the morning in

494
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 4: the middle of winter in Eltham, which is really hilly,

495
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 4: and it's like the foresty leafy and kangaroos and rabbits everywhere.

496
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 4: I used to have to get up in the morning

497
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 4: and have a cold plunge underground in a septic tank

498
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 4: before going to school. And I did that for weeks

499
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 4: and weeks weeks before we had a shower like outdoor

500
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 4: toilet for years.

501
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: This is why you're so good with spiders.

502
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was constantly on wood piles picking Huntsman's.

503
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: People need to know this. You guys are such down

504
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: to earth beginning.

505
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: I think it's why we're so in tune with each other,

506
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: because we are just.

507
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: Like back.

508
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: In Bayside private schools with our kids just going.

509
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: I never thought i'd get there, get here? What did

510
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: our mean to say? We humble them, let's be honest.

511
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, so Elsham and then I moved to Noosa

512
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 4: for high school with my family and I went to

513
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 4: Sunshine Beach High like we went to public schools.

514
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: I went to a movie.

515
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 4: Barbyland, but I went to Catholic school for primary and

516
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: then high school was just public. We couldn't afford private

517
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 4: schools or anything like that. And yeah, I was surfar.

518
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 4: I had the best upbringing. I was always outdoors, never indoors.

519
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 4: And yeah, I guess that's my.

520
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: Child husband when you were still a child child were kids,

521
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: three kids by twenty six. Yeah, So then I tell

522
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: us how you met your husband? What was he doing?

523
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: So?

524
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've lived in Queensland and I came to Melbourne.

525
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: I just recently broke up with my ex boyfriend and

526
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: I was staying at Bell's house because he used to

527
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 4: live in NUSA as well. But we never crossed paths

528
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 4: because there's such an age gap.

529
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: And if we'd met, you would have been too, I

530
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: would have been met lily. So this weekend you ended

531
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: up a love machine.

532
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, like nineteen nineteen nineteen. I love Machine, Yeah nineteen,

533
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: I love Machine on Gay Night, Sunday night, Sunday night,

534
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 4: I love Machine. And when in and even though I

535
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 4: was staying at his place, he had come back from Vegas.

536
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 4: It was his birthday and he went straight from the

537
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 4: airport and he went through his parents and then he

538
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 4: went straight out and Will meeting him out at Love Machine.

539
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 4: But I didn't know what he looks like or anything.

540
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 4: So I wore with my girlfriends who were actually celebrating

541
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 4: Beale's birthday, but not knowing.

542
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: What he looks like.

543
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 4: Get to love Machine and there's this guy on a

544
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 4: podium dancing to Carl him Minog.

545
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, where's my guy?

546
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 4: No?

547
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 3: Do you think it was because he wasnt a podium

548
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: man comfortable in his masculinity exactly.

549
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 4: And then I came out of the bathroom and there

550
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 4: was like where the stairwell is? He was just standing

551
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 4: there and I was like, oh, you're to go from

552
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 4: the podium, jin Say. I just looked at him and

553
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 4: he just grabbed me and we kiss, no conversation, nothing,

554
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 4: and then I was to cool down Jess after I

555
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 4: kissed you, and he's like, I vowed and I was like,

556
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 4: I live in your house tonight.

557
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm actually staying a house for three days. And then no, no,

558
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: I was good. I didn't put out the first night. Guys.

559
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you because one night, one night, No,

560
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: we do clas classy girls. I think the Catholic in me,

561
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: and then you're pregnant. Stop it. So then I went

562
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: for three months literally, so yeah.

563
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: One month later, in our will together, he asked my

564
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: parents if you could marry me. They said no, They're like, fuck.

565
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: No, wed you two minutes ago, we.

566
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 4: Don't know you, and can you just wait till she's

567
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 4: twenty one? And then he was so young, and then

568
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 4: he asked again, and every month he asked for like two,

569
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 4: three months, three months, he asked again. Every month they

570
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 4: kept saying no. They got to like the fourth month

571
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: and he's like, can I please marry Jordan and they're

572
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 4: like no, we've said this, wait till she's twenty one.

573
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: And he's like she's pregnant and they're like, put her

574
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: on it now. So this literally the other thing.

575
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: I don't think people know unless they followed you since

576
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 3: the modern mama, Like they don't know that you were

577
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 3: a mom at twenty one three by twenty six, but

578
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: then also had a dancing.

579
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: Career, your a actress.

580
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: Then you had this is not your first podcast, like

581
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: you had step wives, like you've done so.

582
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: Many things and your best pool.

583
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're literally like not only thirty five, Like

584
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: you're such a small child.

585
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: Right now, which is this is a backstory that people

586
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: don't know am I.

587
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: And I normally don't like spend so much time on it,

588
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: but I think it's so important to remind people that

589
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: where you guys came from. But it also makes sense

590
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: why you're such good friends because when you found each

591
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: other at you know, three year old kind to pick up,

592
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: it makes sense.

593
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 4: That you're like as my girl, literally, and that's like,

594
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: looking back now, I was the girl at high school

595
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 4: that was they all thought Jess won't get married and

596
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 4: have children, be the last person. If she does, we'll

597
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 4: be in her forties because I was never a settler.

598
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: But then it's like you found.

599
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: Your Yeah, I found my person. But then also river

600
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: my first my first one was a full planned pregnancy.

601
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 4: So a lot of people think because you're twenty, it

602
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: was a mistake, but it was fully planned. Yeah, So

603
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: that was like I really want to have children. I

604
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: want to have him the next twelve months. And then

605
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: he's like, but I want to get married because I

606
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: don't want to get married first because that's such a process. Yeah,

607
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: and you know, I really want to have a baby

608
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: before I'm thirty two kind of thing. So then, yeah,

609
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: it was all planned pregnancy. And but it's the best.

610
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: Teaway just met this guy. Yeah that's baby.

611
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 8: Yeah.

612
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's also kind of special because I feel

613
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: like you've made it work.

614
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

615
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 7: Yeah.

616
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: I think people sometimes think it doesn't look like the

617
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: pathway that it's supposed to, so therefore I should not

618
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: lean into it. But you were like, if it works, yeah,

619
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 3: exactly a beautiful marriage you guys had now other than

620
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: the Koreans.

621
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 5: Yahmicide married like gorgeous, gorgeous.

622
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: No, but that's I think.

623
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 5: You know.

624
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: Having a river is like, was the foundation of how

625
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 4: Beck and I met, you know, throughout three three year

626
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 4: old kinder with Oscar River the same age, and when

627
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 4: we met, it was like it was seen to my Yeah, and.

628
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: You can hear that.

629
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: I feel like one of the best parts of Vanished

630
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: so far is that it's two best friends who like you,

631
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: pull each other into line in different ways. But interesting,

632
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: you've never had a fight.

633
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: We had one. We finally had a fight. Finally had

634
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: a fight.

635
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, wait, we'll a point in that. Let's

636
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: start with the fact that now, I mean you have

637
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: four kids, Beck, you have three kids. Yes, you both

638
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: don't look like you're old enough to have children. I've

639
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: heard you say, Beck that you feel like your skin

640
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 3: is better at forty two than twenty two. When I

641
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: met you both in person, I think you see people again,

642
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: like you see people on the outside and you're like,

643
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: they are perfect, they are so immaculate and so stunting,

644
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: and you think it must all be editing. And then

645
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: you meet both in your real life and I was like, fuck.

646
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: That's exactly what they look like. They're right back at Yeah,

647
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: it's Korean bay age.

648
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: Literally don't but you've gone from a climate like we've

649
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: all been through it. We all kind of work in

650
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: the media where you fear getting papped at appointments because

651
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: no one would lift the veil on what it takes.

652
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: Like you say in the show, you don't wake up

653
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: like this, And it can be really sometimes de moralizing

654
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: for people who are like, how can I attain that

655
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: level of beauty, and then there's a stigma around being

656
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: a bit vain, even though we all are like I

657
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: sat here because I'm like, this is my side.

658
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: I Am not sitting over there. I'm sorry girls, Yeah,

659
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: little vanish moments.

660
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what do you think has changed? Like you've

661
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: been so incredibly open on the show, whereas I don't

662
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: know if it would have been as easy for you.

663
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: Like five minutes ago. I think do you feel is different?

664
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Speaker 4: I think we're just we're older now and it really

665
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: is that no Fox error, Like we're kind of like

666
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: and that let them, you know that, let them like

667
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 4: if they're going to whatever they want to think about you.

668
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, let them. It doesn't bother It doesn't bother us.

669
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 4: We've got too many kids to worry about somebody saying

670
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 4: that we're vain. Also having files and people constantly messaging

671
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: us going, you know, what do you do for your hair?

672
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: What do you do for your skin? Like what do

673
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 4: you do this? And it's like, I'm not going to

674
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: sit there and not tell you to pretend and pretend

675
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: or and you get to age. Everyone knows I don't sleep.

676
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think also like social media has been

677
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: a big one because you're seeing lots of people just

678
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: be quite transparent on Instagram and TikTok, And then you've

679
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: got celebs leading the way with Chris Jenna outing her

680
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: plastic surgeon guy not outing like.

681
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, letting sharing share, Kylie Jenna talking about her job.

682
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 2: So it's kind of been led by celebs, it's been

683
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: led by influencers. It's coincided at a time where twenty

684
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: twenty five is a year of transparency. We're also at

685
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: the age where I'm forty two and I don't have

686
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: a wrinkle, Like that's not normal.

687
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: It's not.

688
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: Jesus, but that's not normal because I get an anti

689
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 2: wrinkle injection. If I hadn't had had antiris injections as

690
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: a forty two year old, I'll.

691
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: Be covered in inlands. And that's cool too.

692
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: Some people are cool with that. I prefer it when

693
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't have lines, but each to their own. And

694
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: it's about not gas slading women.

695
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, because before.

696
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: People and there's still people who who do say no,

697
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: it's just because I wear a really good sunscreen. Still

698
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: very important, but it's say come on, stop bullshitting.

699
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: I've seen you get some walk out of you know,

700
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: we are the.

701
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 9: Same guy, because then it makes when you're not honest,

702
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 9: it makes women look up to you and go, it's

703
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 9: so unentertainable.

704
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: I'll never be like that's like, no, babe, I had this, this, this, this,

705
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: I photoshop that pimple out okay, and then they're like, oh, okay,

706
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: thanks for being deliberate. It's actually it's liberating for us,

707
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: but it's also just being honest with women. And the

708
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: reaction from women has been thank you so much.

709
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Speaker 1: I feel more normal now.

710
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've actually had so much good comments, Like I

711
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: would have thought we would be trolled like crazy, and

712
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 4: we haven't had any so happy andful, you know, on

713
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: social media. I used to look at, you know, five

714
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 4: years ago, look at all these influences and go.

715
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: Why I can't be like that?

716
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 4: Why do like they've got all these children and they

717
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 4: still look so good and their bodies like this, and

718
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 4: their faces like this, and their hair And I used

719
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 4: to get gas lighted by it, and I was like, oh, wonderful.

720
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 4: And then I'm like, I'll go down the path with

721
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 4: like anti wrinkles and stuff like that, and I've gone

722
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 4: this amazing.

723
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: I've been waiting for this podcast for a lot of years,

724
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 3: and I'm.

725
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: Like, oh, I need to take those you know, you

726
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: need no notice.

727
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: And I wanted to touch on that nobody needs anything, right,

728
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 2: like if you want to and don't go I want

729
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: to get an anti wrinkle injection. I want to go

730
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 2: get this treatment done because that person's had it done,

731
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: so I'm going to copy. It's not about that, it's

732
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: about like your own I wanted to no one needs anything.

733
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 2: No one needs anything if you want to get things

734
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: done for yourself. So it's not like the podcast is

735
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: not just about it's education on all the treatments and

736
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: procedures and you know, all the products and stuff that

737
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: are out there because it's such a flooded market.

738
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Speaker 4: But then also de influencing, you know, that's really important

739
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: as well. Like I went and did the nasal tan spray,

740
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 4: which you know, even though I was wearing some block

741
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 4: and I would do it and it's like, you know,

742
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 4: just put it, you know, spraad up your nose and

743
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: then just do you know, activities in the sun for

744
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 4: twenty minutes, even with some block on. I found out

745
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: that it's actually not good for you. It's not an.

746
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: Increase your risk of skin cancer. I loved that.

747
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: So for us to talk about that with a dermatologist,

748
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: we had comments from people saying, you have completely de

749
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: influenced me. I was about to buy the turning nasal spray,

750
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 2: but because of your podcast, I'm.

751
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: Not doing that anymore.

752
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: So for Jess and I were like, how good is

753
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: this because we are helping yeah, listeners to make more

754
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: informed decisions and I not kind of risk their health,

755
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 2: not waste their money.

756
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: It's really important.

757
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we're not influencing people to go get products

758
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 4: and procedures where just seeing more informed choices.

759
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to do it anyway. I think that's

760
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: the thing.

761
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: If you found an area where you lack confidence, you

762
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: want to be empowered to know I'm going to get

763
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: it anyway. Yeah, I at least want to understand what

764
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: I'm getting into.

765
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: What the risks are. Doesn't work, isn't marketing bs.

766
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 3: Whereas if no one's talking about it, then you can't

767
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 3: know the risks or what to expect, or what a

768
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: good reaction is or a bad reaction. I love that

769
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: you guys are so open about it now. So a

770
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: couple of questions on the Vanish area throughout your life

771
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: so far? What has been your biggest vanish area? I

772
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: know it's your kneecaps at the moment.

773
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: What are your areas?

774
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: But kind of started off the insecurity, like we all

775
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: have it. It's and it's always something that other people

776
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: will go no, but it's like your internal confidence meter

777
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 3: is affected.

778
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: Mine would be.

779
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 4: It's funny. I was actually talking to Vell about it

780
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: last night. So when you do TV, when I do

781
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 4: get on the TV, my jaw swings to one side.

782
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I've never noticed that. No one.

783
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 4: I would never noticed that about you. But when I

784
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 4: watch myself on TV, I can see that my jaw

785
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 4: will swing to one side, and I'm like, why is

786
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 4: this happening? And fell when he's always told me this,

787
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 4: I always need to get reminded. I got a tooth

788
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 4: taken out way too young and there was never a

789
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: space to put into it when I was like three.

790
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: Hours a dentist by the way, so he knows.

791
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 4: And so what happens is is that my jaws not

792
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 4: properly developed in a certain area, so which will cause

793
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: the swinging. So I'm like, how do we fix that?

794
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,479
Speaker 4: And he's like, well, we can do in visil line.

795
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: But because it's your jaw and you've, you know, for

796
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 4: thirty years, you're you're you know, your jaw has just

797
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 4: been constantly doing it. It might not work, but I'm

798
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: like so vain, I'm like, let's do in visil line.

799
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: Let's fix it. See if we can fix it.

800
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: You becaus it might actually probably won't work, but I'm like,

801
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: I have to just try because it affects your confidence.

802
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: It affects my.

803
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 4: Confidence on TV when I'm doing a piece of camera

804
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 4: and I can see it and it just goes and

805
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: no one else can see it, but I can see it.

806
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so we all have one it's really interesting

807
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: to hear what it is.

808
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 4: And another one was like my girlfriend when I was

809
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 4: like maybe twenty five, maybe twenty yeah, twenty five, she

810
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 4: was like thirty two at the time. She's like, wait

811
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: to hit thirty. Your kneecaps starts to sag.

812
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: Someone said it now you And I literally was.

813
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: Just in the mirror one day and I was like

814
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 4: looking at my legs and that was always like my

815
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: best asset, like I always was greatly You.

816
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Speaker 1: Do have to really did I do?

817
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

818
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: And I've got that.

819
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: That was the thing I used to get stopped all

820
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 4: the time.

821
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: Nightclubs and they're like legs eleven.

822
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 4: Literally, a guy or a girl would just be sitting there, going,

823
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: You've got really great legs.

824
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: That was like my lege, and now you're like, oh,

825
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: my kneecaps are on the white house. I'm to go.

826
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: My caps are starting to sag.

827
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: My girlfriend was right about it, so now I'm like

828
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 4: fixed and said it as well, probably just need.

829
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: What's yours?

830
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, maybe skin. I used to have not great skin.

831
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: I used to get really bad blind pimples and I

832
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: went on a week because of TJ. We can't say

833
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: what it is, but I went on prescription medication for

834
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: a long time and I've always kind of been obsessed

835
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: with skin since then. So I got rid of the acne,

836
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: the blind pimples, and I just get so many like

837
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: Laser Genesis, fraxl medical grade skin care ever since.

838
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: Like I'm really particular.

839
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: If I get one pimple, it's like.

840
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 4: It's do you pick it or do you just do

841
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 4: you squeeze them?

842
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like I'm a pimple expert now I

843
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: know which ones need to be extracted and which ones

844
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: will go away by themselvescause you're a.

845
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: Picker like other people.

846
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: I've always been skin and that's why I would hand

847
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: on heart say that my skin is better at forty

848
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: two than it was at twenty two. At twenty two

849
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: it was because it was pigments. But I get rid

850
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: of all my pigment, like any mark, any vask, guilla vein, so,

851
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: anything red, any sunspot, any freckle, it's any large poor

852
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: I will go in to the dermatologist and be like,

853
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: zapp it, get rid of it, give me medication for that,

854
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: give me like whatever.

855
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: And I always got in and say she's like, what

856
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: do you want to do to make my skin look

857
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: like it's twelve? Yeah? I want to be you want

858
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: to be I want twelve year old skin? Yeah, we

859
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: all do. And Zappa any hair pull it out?

860
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 5: Yeah?

861
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: Okay.

862
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: So if you were on a desert island and you

863
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: could only take one treatment and one.

864
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: Product, well, mine would be Andy wrinkle injections. That would

865
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 4: be my treatment, and then my product would be a lipliner.

866
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 6: Wow.

867
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: I think that's like so crucial, is so cool?

868
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 4: I think so you seet a lot of cold saws

869
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: growing up, Yeah, like that cycle every month, every time

870
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 4: I got my pure i'ld get a cold saw. It

871
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 4: was just like my hormones all through high school. That's

872
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: why my guys didn't go near me walking and so

873
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: I had And then obviously with all the cold saw

874
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 4: and the cold saw scarring, I never had that that

875
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 4: the nice shape, the nice shaves, of all the scarring.

876
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 4: So I always wore lipliner. I was always the nineties

877
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 4: liip liliner look. Even through high school. If you go

878
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 4: through all my friends, I was always walking around the lipliner.

879
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 3: You need to do an episode on the blush tattoo outline.

880
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: I I want to get to get a cold saw

881
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: pre treat.

882
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: I want to get filler on my lips, but I

883
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 1: can't get cold beck.

884
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: If you were on a desert island, what would be

885
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: the treatment and product that you would take if you

886
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: could only take one?

887
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: I want to be so boring. I'm exactly the same

888
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: as Jessup. This is why I would b FS. So

889
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: I would drink because that covers off on a lot

890
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: and you can shape and lift when done in the

891
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: right way. And then also I would take a lipliner

892
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: because I.

893
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: Love overdrawing my lips. And if if I've taken the

894
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: anti wrinkle from the treatment, and you couldn't do filler.

895
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: Then you can give.

896
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: The perception of a big limp with an overdrawn lip.

897
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: So my tip is just find a lip liner that

898
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: is the same color as your kind of natural lip and.

899
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: Just overdraw it and.

900
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: Wild look amazing.

901
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: Because we have two of the same things, we can

902
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 4: a fall.

903
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: I think you could fall. You can split them because together, yeah.

904
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: All right, well, okay, so if you took those when

905
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: we were sharing, I would do a laser genesis. Laser

906
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: genesis is poor minimizing every bedroom stimulating and poor minimizing.

907
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: You know that I want twel year old skin.

908
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: And I would do a bronze for you to the

909
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: bronza genesis.

910
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: I okay, this is like a kind of fast five

911
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 3: for each of you. First thing you tried, best thing

912
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: you've tried, worst thing you've tried.

913
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: Okay, My first thing I tried was antierinkle injections. Best

914
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 4: thing I've ever tried. Oh, I can't say.

915
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: It because it's just give it a generic description.

916
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: It is a hyaluronic acid injection injection under the face,

917
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 4: in your face. That's probably the best thing I've tried

918
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 4: for me personally, I'm not saying people should go do it.

919
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: That's for me.

920
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 4: I've found really worked really nicely for me. It's the

921
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: best thing I've ever tried, and I'll continue on doing that.

922
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: And then the worst thing I ever tried was filler

923
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: in my cheeks.

924
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: I did that back.

925
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 7: There isn't great feedback about it, migrating and migrating and

926
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 7: a happy now when I was that in twenty nineteen,

927
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 7: I got my cheeks done and yeah, just hearing and

928
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 7: knowing more about it now, it's something that I wish

929
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 7: I didn't do, even though it's probably most of it's dissolved.

930
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: It's never always gone migra in my grapes, so I

931
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: want to get it. I will get it dissolved in

932
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 4: some one point when I'm ready. But yeah, the first

933
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 4: thing I tried was a peel.

934
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very young, and it was because I

935
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: went straight into the injections. I was young, and I

936
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: always had like that chin acne all the time of

937
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: pause and just a little bit spotty.

938
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: So I didn't have a lot of money. I actually

939
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: had no money. I was a UNI student and with

940
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: a bit of modeling. Pizza Haven fragrance Sprang, David Jones

941
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: and Maya on the side.

942
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: Like acid peel because they said it was really good

943
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: for your skin. So that was my first experience. The

944
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: best thing I've tried, I would say.

945
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: Would be anti wrinkle and it is the reason why

946
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: I don't have a line on my face.

947
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: I love that for me.

948
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 2: I'm not recommending it for anybody.

949
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: I just rarely love it for me. Personal story. I

950
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: like it. We're not saying you should get it. Yeah,

951
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: her personal experience, I love it.

952
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: And the thing that is the worst thing I've ever done, well,

953
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: there's two like on what Jess said Philip, but specifically

954
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: under eye filler is horrendous and if you google, like

955
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: Jennifer Addison or Kylie Jenner under I feel it, you

956
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: will see images of where the filler migratees. It absorbs

957
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: moisture and ends up really puffy. So I went through

958
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: a stage where I'd smile and I'd have these two

959
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: huge filler puffs which I had to get dissolved. Then

960
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: when you dissolve them, you end up with really saggy

961
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: skin and hollowing and eyebags.

962
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: And that was a journey that.

963
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: Was two years of doing other treatments and procedures to

964
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: fix my under eye bags. And we're going to talk

965
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: about it on vainish, but it was. It was a busy,

966
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: and it's a thing that elder millennials like myself, where

967
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: you all were the.

968
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: Kind of the guinea pigs and went well, or do

969
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: the under I feel like I didn't do it.

970
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: And ten years on, she's a younger Lenny. Ten years on,

971
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: all you why, yes, we all, why is this under?

972
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: I feel it making us so puffy and it.

973
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: Looks like ship And then we've had to go down

974
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: the dissolving and then all like, there's a chain of

975
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: events that happens after you get filler dissolved and it's

976
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: not pretty.

977
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, influenced because I said, Tobecca, I was like, I

978
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: really want to get like I'm stanish age and I

979
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 4: was wearing glasses all the time, so I was getting

980
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 4: that didn't there and getting quite hollow. And I said, Tocca,

981
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 4: I think I might get piller underneath my eyes and

982
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 4: she's like, no, no, no, don't do it.

983
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: I was like why, she's so, you're putting your body

984
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: on the line.

985
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 4: And when everyone was kind of getting it done, I

986
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: didn't need it then and then but now I'm like,

987
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: it's just a top.

988
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: Don't get it.

989
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: But that's not the worst thing. A type of tightening laser.

990
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: Oh yes, And Jess has had this as well. And

991
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 2: I had on my forehead and it damaged a nerve

992
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: like like sizzle, the nerve sizzle. Afterwards, when I touched

993
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: my forehead, I felt a tap tap tap on the

994
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: back of my head.

995
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 4: I did as well, Right, So this is this is

996
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 4: a this is a you don't.

997
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: Get a prescription for it. This is just a run

998
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: of the mill. You go and get this tightening laser

999
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: at a clinic.

1000
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: And I went and saw a doctor about it afterwards,

1001
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: and I said, why am I touching here and I'm

1002
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: feeling tap tap tap on the back of my head

1003
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: and he said, you've got nerve damage and you're luck

1004
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: you didn't sever that nerve with that tree. So that

1005
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: scared the shit out of me. And I think, just

1006
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: when you're going in and you're getting things done, you've

1007
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: got to be so careful because to get nerve damage

1008
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: from a tightening device is not okay. And I feel

1009
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: like these things need to be more heavily regulated. So

1010
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: I am here Jess is here to tell the listeners

1011
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: to really ask the right questions and see if you

1012
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: are a good candidate for these types of things. Because

1013
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: it took probably took four to six weeks for the

1014
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: tap to go away.

1015
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: Bass.

1016
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 4: You're on the boat in a cheeker and I'm getting

1017
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 4: this tapping me. I'm like, that's so weird because I

1018
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 4: just run my finger across my forehead.

1019
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: And you've gone and the same tree.

1020
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: So what about you mentioned hereditarily, I know your most

1021
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,479
Speaker 3: common question is your nose and real and I know.

1022
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: But that's the thing you get asked about.

1023
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: The Yeah, because I'm so Mum's Maury moldy OSSI say, Maori,

1024
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: I was actually one of.

1025
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: My dear friends Catherine and Justine. I have to say

1026
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: maldy because they'll be like, did you say Maury.

1027
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: Had moldy? Moldy moldy.

1028
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: It's how you actually say it. You got to roll

1029
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: the r. I don't get me almost like you know,

1030
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: like moldy cheese. It's almost like moldy roll the are

1031
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: So I've got my dad's nose, but my mom's coloring

1032
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: and I've got such a small nose, so people always

1033
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: just assume yeah, they do, you know stuff, it's so small,

1034
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 2: but guess what some noses it makes really small noses.

1035
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 4: Look at all the children.

1036
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 1: Doesn't But yeah, what do you get us the most about?

1037
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: Like that is hereditary?

1038
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 4: Well recently just came across the article they said my

1039
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: nose was done and I had enhancements, and I was like, no,

1040
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: this is actually my real nose.

1041
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so hereditary noses.

1042
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: But contouring all that sort of stuff. You know, it's

1043
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 4: amazing what you can do with makeup.

1044
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last couple of questions.

1045
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: So I meant to ask this at the start, but

1046
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 3: looking through your history, you guys have lots of beautiful

1047
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 3: occasions to get dressed up. And from a Vanish perspective,

1048
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 3: is there a moment in time where you've looked back

1049
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: and felt your most like your vanity has been satisfied

1050
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: and you're like, I was shit hot? Like what is

1051
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: your favorite look being?

1052
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: I think my.

1053
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 4: Favorite look actually would have been Glamor on the Greed

1054
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 4: this year, that custom dress that I got done.

1055
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah you are you had your hair up? Okay?

1056
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Glamor on the Greed this Year was

1057
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 4: probably my best book that I've done I think because

1058
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 4: I had so many compliments in my dress. It's the

1059
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 4: custom Yeah, you looked dress, and I think it's the

1060
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: first custom dress I've ever worn, so really.

1061
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was kind of like effects like I

1062
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: had eighty five.

1063
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was cool.

1064
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: You looked your hair, Yeah, make up everything about you.

1065
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 4: That's my favorite look.

1066
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: Success with you?

1067
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 7: What about your book?

1068
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: There's been so many females. I've been very privileged, very

1069
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: very to work.

1070
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 2: With Chaiton who like my besties and insane. It's been

1071
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: a lot. I even like, do you know what I loved?

1072
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: They made me an orange outfit for Coachella a few

1073
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: years ago.

1074
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: That was hot? Right was the building? That was hot? Cowboy? Yeah,

1075
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: that was do you.

1076
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: Know what I loved?

1077
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: It's really old.

1078
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: I think it's twenty thirteen. The white with the it

1079
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 3: was a brownlow dress with the black. That was the

1080
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 3: first one they dressed me really started and it was

1081
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: just like no one had seen and it was as

1082
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 3: jersey with a custom leather. But that was I would

1083
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 3: I would what size for her?

1084
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go there, I think because it was so

1085
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: different as well.

1086
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 4: That was my favorite look I loved for you would

1087
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 4: have probably been. You're wearing this like it was your

1088
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 4: time purple.

1089
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: The purple dress, the dress I like people and the

1090
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: buttons and the details and the lace and their hair. Half. Yeah,

1091
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: it was very Prince Disney Princess. I loved that look.

1092
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 3: I think that was like a Okay, what about your

1093
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: most cringe that you look back? And I actually screened

1094
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: and know where my phone is. But one that I

1095
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: was like, that's the least beck Jard look that Bejard

1096
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Speaker 3: has ever done.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what you had? A quiff?

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Speaker 4: This is the look that you did for the It looked.

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Speaker 3: Like a Korean harmbug. Actually, do you know what I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about?

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Speaker 2: There was a time where certain clients and sponsors where

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00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: I had to wes and do certain things and I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, I reckon, you would have had an intervention.

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00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: She just gave me this racing photo one day and

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00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: she was like, what the hell am I? That was

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00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: stylus choice choice that.

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Speaker 3: Was there been anything that you chose where you were like,

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Speaker 3: what was I wearing?

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00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: Like? Nothing that I chose. I'm just too good.

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Speaker 3: The last two questions what do you love most about

1111
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: each other? And then the very last one is in Australia,

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Speaker 3: You guys are genuinely like the joint queens of this country.

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00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: We hang on g your every word something to put

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00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: genuinely like, we hang on to your every word.

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00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: And that's why veins she's so exciting because people have

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00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 3: been asking for I mean I've literally been subtly asking back.

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Speaker 1: You know, look at you. You need nothing, got imagine

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00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: tell me what you've done? You need nothing?

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00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: But who is your beck Judd and Jesse Roberts.

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Speaker 1: Like, who are the average Australian to you, guys?

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Speaker 3: What is your person that you would be like if

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00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 3: you got them on the podcast as a guest, you

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00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: would absolutely froth it.

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Speaker 4: Mine would be Christian Aguilera because she's what forty seven

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Speaker 4: forty six. I just want to know what.

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00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: She's had to watch, do you know what? In terms

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00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: of if we're going down that like the Vinish, if

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00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: we could have a guess, this doesn't mean that there

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00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: I aspire to be this person or they inspire me

1130
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: the most heaps of people in different categories and industries

1131
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: that inspire me for different reasons. But in terms of

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00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: I just want to know what these chicks had done,

1133
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: because she looks fucking insane. Is Lindsay Lollan? Why Liz.

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00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: She is reversed aged like by twenty five years.

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00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 2: The main thing, the main thing is she's sober, right,

1136
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: she's a mom. She's sober, she's looking after herself and

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Speaker 2: that I know, this is this is.

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Speaker 1: You got you eat all of that? Like it's like,

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00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: it's she looks so insie And I just wanted to like,

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00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: is a face up? You just tune your photos so much?

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00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: She's she's had Anne Hathaway, Like, do you think Christina

1142
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 2: and Lindsay have the same surgeon?

1143
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: And and okay stop, she's amazing love hair on the

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00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: podcast too.

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00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Chris Aguilera Lindsay Lahan and takes the older.

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00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, she's fifty and it's like she's she's I don't know,

1147
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 8: she's everything.

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00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: Massive lesbian with some Korean dudes.

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00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: Pretty one last question that did just pop up.

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Speaker 3: You both have daughters, and I think they're what you've

1151
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 3: done really well so far. Listening as someone who hasn't

1152
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: dabbled yet, but he is very close to finishing breastfeeding,

1153
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: and I am like straight in with the notes from

1154
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: Vanish told me this, How do you draw the line

1155
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: of enhance what makes you more confident, because that is

1156
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 3: people are They shine from within when they feel more

1157
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 3: confident about themselves, and that looks different for everyone versus

1158
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 3: wait until you can internally work on your confidence in

1159
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 3: other ways as well. Because there's so many sides to

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00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 3: being a bit vanish.

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00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 2: I think with daughters and with kids in general, is

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00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: you need to make sure that you raise them where

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00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: they know that their self worth is not based on

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00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: their appearance. So just because your mum's ere, you know,

1165
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 2: giving herself a quick putting on her red lips, maybe

1166
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: getting an anti wrink or getting a spray town and

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00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: widening her teeth, it's part of maybe what she does

1168
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: to feel confident, But you need to educate your kids

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00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: that it doesn't contribute to their self worth. So I

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Speaker 2: feel like when your kids have a very strong sense

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00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: of their self worth and it's not attached to how

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00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,479
Speaker 2: they look, then it's up to them when they become

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00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: a certain age what they want to do. But I

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00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 2: think that's really important is making sure, especially your daughters,

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00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: that their self worth is not attached to their outward appearance.

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00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think also like being transparent with your children,

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00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: especially like with a daughter that's nearly fourteen and she's

1179
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 4: on socials. You know, she's like, why this girl's nose

1180
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 4: is so amazing to do, and it's like, no, it's fake, darling.

1181
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: Like I think you're.

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00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 3: Both actually paving the way for a future for them

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00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 3: to grow up in where they're not thinking everyone just.

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00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: Looks like.

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00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 2: With them. Yeah, even like they'll be watching a music video,

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00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: Billy will say, oh, how does she look like that?

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00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: And Doubt's like They'm like, do you know what tan bleach, teeth,

1188
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 2: hair extensions, probably a boob job, probably a filter on

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Speaker 2: the camera.

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Speaker 1: Three hours three.

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00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: Hours of Yeah, it's just and then photos of celebrities

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00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: or influencers as well, and.

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00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: They're looking like, yeah, let's probably face that face June.

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00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: And so I'm very very We've got like a no

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00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: lying policy in our house. Even like when my kids

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00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: were really young and they're like, hey, mom, how come

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00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: like there's.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's this? There'll be a tampon, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: and it's like my seven year old son's asking me, like,

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00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: what's this in your hair? Would have but I think

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00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: I always just give a very.

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Speaker 2: Medical, scientific, biological I'm always very transparent and and I

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00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: know Jesse's as well, and we never want to fib

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Speaker 2: to our kids.

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Speaker 1: So I would always say to Billy, I'm like, yeah,

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00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: she looks like that's face app a tan, probably a

1207
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: boob job, it's probably surgery. So they just know from

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00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: the get go that nothing that it's not naturally it's

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Speaker 1: not yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I think the other thing is as well, our

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Speaker 4: children they see us in our is ishous moments, so

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00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 4: that the is you know, they see us like all

1214
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 4: deld up and they've seen us in the most isious states,

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00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 4: so it's kind of the raccoon hair a river has

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00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 4: seen and scarlet they've seen beconer ish. Billy seen me

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Speaker 4: and my.

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Speaker 1: We're usually in our ish.

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Speaker 2: Would be nice, I would say like, actually we are

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Speaker 2: ninety ish temp sent vein. Yeah, and that the going in.

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Speaker 1: You see the temper.

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00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: You put the ten percent on Instagram, but ninety percent

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00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: of the time were in pajamas, ug boots, I mean

1224
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: active were This is like my uniform. I go, I

1225
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: drop off and Jest does the kids every morning in

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Speaker 2: wearing pajamas.

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Speaker 5: Hair.

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Speaker 1: Kids see us usually in the Ish, and then every

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00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: now and again when we do dress up and go

1230
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: to an event. The girls are like oh, and they're

1231
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: like look at Yeah, I've put on fake eyelashes and

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00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: what's with your lips?

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00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: Really really off you may Yeah, I book Chantel Baker,

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00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: so she did a full contour, and you've got my

1236
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: nails done.

1237
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: I've got more jewels, and we've like super tan, we've

1238
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: used the spray tan. So it's just about being really honest.

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00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 4: So the girls know that being transparent with them is

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00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 4: so important. And yeah, an especially the word on social

1241
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 4: media where everyone a lot of people aren't transparent and

1242
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 4: your kids will go, yeah, why don't I look like that?

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00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 4: Why is it they're asking questions? I think just talking

1244
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 4: to them and open, yeah, like saying we didn't well

1245
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 4: you know exactly how I woke up like it was.

1246
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: Not like transformed.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that is why you guys are doing

1248
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 3: such an incredible job, because you are painstakingly getting experts

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01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: on and running everything through the right processes and doing

1250
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Speaker 3: it so responsibly. So congratulations on everything. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for having.

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Speaker 1: That was fun.

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01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 3: That was soad well I promised you chaos laughs, and

1254
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 3: the procedures you'd need to take to a desert island

1255
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 3: and these two legends absolutely delivered. This one has been

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01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 3: a long time coming, and it ended up going for

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01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: over an hour and a half, which was so.

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Speaker 1: Hard to cut down.

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01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 3: But I enjoyed every single moment and I hope you

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01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: guys did too. As always, please do share if you

1261
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 3: liked listening to the episode, tagging at Beth Judd and

1262
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 3: at Jesse Roberts x or at Vanish Podcast to support

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01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 3: these beauties their brand new show and thank them for

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01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 3: their time and honesty. I hope you guys enjoyed this

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01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 3: hilarious chat as much as I did. And if you

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01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 3: want more but haven't already tuned into Vanish, I have

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01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 3: linked in the show notes for you directly. There are

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Speaker 3: actually a few new episodes out since we first recorded,

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Speaker 3: so head on over to have a listen. In the meantime,

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Speaker 3: I hope you're having a wonderful week and are seizing

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Speaker 3: your ya h