1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:13,465 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,505 Speaker 2: Mama Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:20,665 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. Beauty to me is confidence. 4 00:00:21,025 --> 00:00:24,185 Speaker 2: Everyone has different skin and you can't try and replicate 5 00:00:24,705 --> 00:00:27,025 Speaker 2: somebody else's. You have to work with what you've got. 6 00:00:27,865 --> 00:00:31,745 Speaker 1: Makeup is my therapy. I'm in love, I'm obsessed and 7 00:00:31,785 --> 00:00:36,785 Speaker 1: I don't even feel guilty about it. Hello, and welcome 8 00:00:36,825 --> 00:00:39,665 Speaker 1: to you Beauty, the daily podcast for Your Face. I'm 9 00:00:39,665 --> 00:00:43,385 Speaker 1: Aaron Dockerty and welcome to the formula. Every week I 10 00:00:43,425 --> 00:00:45,665 Speaker 1: sit down with celebs and some of the biggest names 11 00:00:45,705 --> 00:00:48,305 Speaker 1: in beauty and take a look into their skincare routines. 12 00:00:48,945 --> 00:00:52,465 Speaker 1: And today's guest has me wishing I dressed a little 13 00:00:52,465 --> 00:00:57,345 Speaker 1: better for this interview. It's Colette Dinnigan. Collette is an 14 00:00:57,345 --> 00:01:02,225 Speaker 1: internationally acclaimed Australian fashion designer known for her exquisite bridle 15 00:01:02,305 --> 00:01:05,545 Speaker 1: and ready to wear collections. With a career spanning over 16 00:01:05,625 --> 00:01:09,625 Speaker 1: three decades, her designs have been worn by celebrities, royal 17 00:01:10,065 --> 00:01:14,905 Speaker 1: and fashion icons worldwide. A pioneer in the Australian fashion industry, 18 00:01:15,025 --> 00:01:18,825 Speaker 1: Collet was the first Australian to show at Paris Fashion Week. 19 00:01:19,265 --> 00:01:22,345 Speaker 1: Today Collette is going to share her personal beauty secrets, 20 00:01:22,625 --> 00:01:26,065 Speaker 1: current skincare routine, and the philosophy that keeps her glowing 21 00:01:26,225 --> 00:01:29,385 Speaker 1: inside and out. Plus, she shares her thoughts on the 22 00:01:29,425 --> 00:01:32,745 Speaker 1: anti aging rebrand and what it really means to be 23 00:01:32,825 --> 00:01:36,545 Speaker 1: a beautiful celebrity in twenty twenty four. You are such 24 00:01:36,825 --> 00:01:42,945 Speaker 1: beautiful skilled but how Collette, Welcome to the show. Thank 25 00:01:42,985 --> 00:01:46,025 Speaker 1: you so much for coming by today. I know you've 26 00:01:46,065 --> 00:01:49,025 Speaker 1: just come off a flight last night from Italy and 27 00:01:49,065 --> 00:01:51,105 Speaker 1: you're looking fresh as ever, so thank you so much 28 00:01:51,145 --> 00:01:51,785 Speaker 1: for dropping in. 29 00:01:51,905 --> 00:01:54,425 Speaker 2: Oh, it's pleasure. It's really a pleasure. Thank you. 30 00:01:55,105 --> 00:01:57,065 Speaker 1: I want to find out your secrets because your skin 31 00:01:57,185 --> 00:02:00,145 Speaker 1: is looking so glowy for having come back off a 32 00:02:00,225 --> 00:02:03,625 Speaker 1: long haul flight. Our fashion podcast, Nothing to Wear is 33 00:02:03,665 --> 00:02:06,745 Speaker 1: going to be very jealous that we've somehow snagged you 34 00:02:06,825 --> 00:02:09,025 Speaker 1: on this show for a chat, and I cannot wait 35 00:02:09,025 --> 00:02:11,625 Speaker 1: to talk about all things beauty. I want to start 36 00:02:11,625 --> 00:02:14,505 Speaker 1: off with asking you a little bit about your journey 37 00:02:14,505 --> 00:02:15,945 Speaker 1: with beauty. What's it been like. 38 00:02:16,265 --> 00:02:19,625 Speaker 2: I grew up in New Zealand and I can remember 39 00:02:19,665 --> 00:02:21,985 Speaker 2: going to school and putting coconut oil on my legs 40 00:02:21,985 --> 00:02:24,265 Speaker 2: and my face and we'd have sort of almost aluminium 41 00:02:24,265 --> 00:02:27,665 Speaker 2: foil and rooftops getting sentient, So I don't think it 42 00:02:27,705 --> 00:02:30,465 Speaker 2: was the healthiest one with the UV rating, but I 43 00:02:30,505 --> 00:02:33,025 Speaker 2: think a lot of people had those stories in the eighties, 44 00:02:33,265 --> 00:02:35,785 Speaker 2: and I do believe. You know, it's what you put 45 00:02:35,785 --> 00:02:37,985 Speaker 2: inside your body. It's not trying to fix it from 46 00:02:37,985 --> 00:02:40,025 Speaker 2: the outside. Like everything, there's no mask. 47 00:02:40,265 --> 00:02:42,345 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you a little bit about 48 00:02:42,425 --> 00:02:45,425 Speaker 1: how your sense of style kind of ties in with 49 00:02:45,505 --> 00:02:46,785 Speaker 1: your approach to beauty. 50 00:02:47,065 --> 00:02:50,225 Speaker 2: For me, especially in interiors and that which I'm probably 51 00:02:50,305 --> 00:02:53,465 Speaker 2: I've never made a formal transition by any means, and 52 00:02:53,545 --> 00:02:56,065 Speaker 2: I'm not in an architect I'm not an interior designer, 53 00:02:56,105 --> 00:02:58,065 Speaker 2: so have to make that very clear. It's just my style, 54 00:02:58,145 --> 00:03:02,345 Speaker 2: and I guess it's something that for me, as I 55 00:03:02,425 --> 00:03:05,545 Speaker 2: always proposed and what I did in fashion, even though 56 00:03:05,745 --> 00:03:07,825 Speaker 2: you know my shows, you wanted to be effortless and 57 00:03:07,945 --> 00:03:11,905 Speaker 2: easy and confident, and I think that's probably how I 58 00:03:11,945 --> 00:03:14,345 Speaker 2: follow my life, and that's why I was saying before, 59 00:03:14,385 --> 00:03:17,505 Speaker 2: you know, kind of the effortless side is when you 60 00:03:17,545 --> 00:03:20,185 Speaker 2: appear to make everything look effortless, it's never as you've seen, 61 00:03:20,265 --> 00:03:22,825 Speaker 2: because there's a lot more behind, so you know behind 62 00:03:22,865 --> 00:03:24,665 Speaker 2: it when it comes to beauty, it's what you put 63 00:03:24,665 --> 00:03:27,945 Speaker 2: into your body, and sometimes it takes a lot more work. 64 00:03:28,105 --> 00:03:29,385 Speaker 1: And that's true. 65 00:03:29,545 --> 00:03:32,025 Speaker 2: You think it's not easy for everyone in the city 66 00:03:32,065 --> 00:03:34,825 Speaker 2: to grow their own organic vegetables or to you know, 67 00:03:34,905 --> 00:03:37,185 Speaker 2: have practices where you have to squeeze your own juice 68 00:03:37,185 --> 00:03:39,065 Speaker 2: in the morning and then worry about cleaning the juice 69 00:03:39,065 --> 00:03:40,665 Speaker 2: it because it's like, God, damn, do I already have 70 00:03:40,705 --> 00:03:43,025 Speaker 2: to do that? Okay, let's go for the easy option. 71 00:03:43,225 --> 00:03:47,265 Speaker 2: But I think that's where effortless and good skin there's 72 00:03:47,305 --> 00:03:49,825 Speaker 2: always something behind. So I think it's always, you know, 73 00:03:49,865 --> 00:03:50,385 Speaker 2: the balance. 74 00:03:50,825 --> 00:03:53,625 Speaker 1: Even just talking about that, like looking at no makeup 75 00:03:53,665 --> 00:03:56,225 Speaker 1: makeup routines and those clean beauty routines and you end 76 00:03:56,265 --> 00:03:59,145 Speaker 1: up using like fifteen different products just to look like 77 00:03:59,545 --> 00:04:02,505 Speaker 1: you're wearing nothing at all. I totally relate to that. 78 00:04:02,545 --> 00:04:04,505 Speaker 1: This is you beauty after all. So I want to 79 00:04:04,545 --> 00:04:07,065 Speaker 1: ask you a little bit about skin. Tell me about 80 00:04:07,105 --> 00:04:11,065 Speaker 1: your skin. What are the biggest shit and challenges that 81 00:04:11,105 --> 00:04:13,185 Speaker 1: you've experienced with it over the years. 82 00:04:13,745 --> 00:04:17,905 Speaker 2: I think, you know, my skin was always probably normal 83 00:04:17,985 --> 00:04:20,905 Speaker 2: to maybe slightly oily, So I've I guess having that 84 00:04:21,465 --> 00:04:25,265 Speaker 2: is been something that's a positive because it doesn't dry out. Maybe, 85 00:04:25,785 --> 00:04:28,025 Speaker 2: as I said before, I've only in the last ten 86 00:04:28,105 --> 00:04:31,745 Speaker 2: years been very conscious of using sunscreens and being very 87 00:04:32,225 --> 00:04:34,305 Speaker 2: you know, appropriate, and that kind of thing. Kind of 88 00:04:34,425 --> 00:04:37,825 Speaker 2: keeping sun away and cleansing I think has always been 89 00:04:37,865 --> 00:04:39,985 Speaker 2: something I've done at night. But I'm not obsessive with it, 90 00:04:40,025 --> 00:04:43,025 Speaker 2: I have to say. And I can even remember in 91 00:04:43,065 --> 00:04:45,945 Speaker 2: Italy and lockdown. You know, we had the strongest lockdown 92 00:04:45,945 --> 00:04:47,745 Speaker 2: in the world, was the first country. 93 00:04:47,385 --> 00:04:47,745 Speaker 1: That had it. 94 00:04:47,865 --> 00:04:50,185 Speaker 2: You couldn't go to a pharmacy that weren't open unless 95 00:04:50,185 --> 00:04:54,025 Speaker 2: it was prescription medicines. Grocery stores, big ones only two 96 00:04:54,065 --> 00:04:56,145 Speaker 2: people at a time, so it was very strict, and 97 00:04:56,185 --> 00:04:58,705 Speaker 2: you had to dress in all this terrible plastic. 98 00:04:58,905 --> 00:04:59,425 Speaker 1: To go in. 99 00:05:00,065 --> 00:05:02,545 Speaker 2: And I just used our olive oil it's organic from 100 00:05:02,545 --> 00:05:05,665 Speaker 2: our trees as moisturizer, and you know, things that are 101 00:05:05,745 --> 00:05:08,305 Speaker 2: very basic and simple do just a greater job. 102 00:05:08,545 --> 00:05:12,065 Speaker 1: And just on the simplicity of skincare. I think that's 103 00:05:12,105 --> 00:05:14,545 Speaker 1: such a good point because there's so much out there 104 00:05:14,625 --> 00:05:17,905 Speaker 1: right now, and with social media, so many trends and 105 00:05:18,025 --> 00:05:21,345 Speaker 1: hacks and you know, products that look so amazing that 106 00:05:21,385 --> 00:05:24,105 Speaker 1: you've just got to get everything. You can just go 107 00:05:24,265 --> 00:05:27,105 Speaker 1: so far and you can really end up doing you know, 108 00:05:27,185 --> 00:05:28,705 Speaker 1: more harm to your skin than good. 109 00:05:29,065 --> 00:05:31,705 Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with that, and I'm sort of very 110 00:05:31,745 --> 00:05:35,585 Speaker 2: particular about even shampoos. You know, it's pretty much most 111 00:05:35,585 --> 00:05:37,865 Speaker 2: things do the same. It's about how you treat your 112 00:05:37,865 --> 00:05:40,625 Speaker 2: body and how your hairs or how your skinner is. 113 00:05:40,905 --> 00:05:45,265 Speaker 1: What's the best skincare tip that you've learned over the years, Like, 114 00:05:45,305 --> 00:05:47,545 Speaker 1: if there's one bit of advice you could give listeners, 115 00:05:47,905 --> 00:05:48,585 Speaker 1: what would it be? 116 00:05:48,985 --> 00:05:51,425 Speaker 2: I guess, you know, often I've had to get off flights, 117 00:05:51,505 --> 00:05:53,745 Speaker 2: especially in Paris, and go straight to work and do 118 00:05:53,785 --> 00:05:54,505 Speaker 2: a lot of things. 119 00:05:55,065 --> 00:05:55,945 Speaker 1: What I used to do. 120 00:05:56,025 --> 00:05:57,865 Speaker 2: I can't remember the name of the product will come 121 00:05:57,865 --> 00:05:59,825 Speaker 2: to me, but is even to have, you know, a 122 00:05:59,905 --> 00:06:02,425 Speaker 2: little facecloth and put cold water in it before on 123 00:06:02,465 --> 00:06:06,385 Speaker 2: an aeroplane, and if you can afterwards, put cucumber under 124 00:06:06,385 --> 00:06:09,385 Speaker 2: your eyes. So simple, and even cabbage leaves, like just 125 00:06:09,745 --> 00:06:12,185 Speaker 2: very simple things because they have such strong properties. And 126 00:06:12,865 --> 00:06:16,025 Speaker 2: I think we forget often that once something touches your skin, 127 00:06:16,065 --> 00:06:17,705 Speaker 2: your skin absorbs it very quickly. 128 00:06:17,945 --> 00:06:20,505 Speaker 1: I mean, as someone who's always flying, those are some 129 00:06:20,545 --> 00:06:24,065 Speaker 1: really really great tips. Do you have anyone that you 130 00:06:24,225 --> 00:06:27,785 Speaker 1: look up to in terms of skincare or beauty. Do 131 00:06:27,825 --> 00:06:30,625 Speaker 1: you have anyone in the industry or any favorite people 132 00:06:30,665 --> 00:06:32,905 Speaker 1: that you might follow on Instagram that you really like. 133 00:06:33,265 --> 00:06:36,185 Speaker 2: I think on Instagram now, I wouldn't look at anybody 134 00:06:36,265 --> 00:06:38,625 Speaker 2: on Instagram and follow them and say that's beauty, because 135 00:06:38,625 --> 00:06:41,025 Speaker 2: often you see them in real life and there's been 136 00:06:41,065 --> 00:06:46,025 Speaker 2: so much that's been edited, filters put on. They look 137 00:06:46,065 --> 00:06:49,825 Speaker 2: picture perfect and it's not real, and it's quite a shock. 138 00:06:50,025 --> 00:06:53,745 Speaker 2: I think one person that I always think looks incredibly 139 00:06:53,825 --> 00:06:58,425 Speaker 2: and impeccably. Their skin is always amazing, Serahmodoc. It's translucent, 140 00:06:58,625 --> 00:07:02,105 Speaker 2: it's healthy, it's glowing, it's I mean, she's very beautiful, 141 00:07:02,105 --> 00:07:06,425 Speaker 2: but her skin always looks amazing and it's something that's noticeable. 142 00:07:06,705 --> 00:07:08,825 Speaker 2: It shines and it glows. But apart from that, no, 143 00:07:08,945 --> 00:07:11,265 Speaker 2: I don't really. I think you've got the thing too, 144 00:07:11,545 --> 00:07:13,185 Speaker 2: is which you would know more than me. That's what 145 00:07:13,185 --> 00:07:16,345 Speaker 2: I'm saying to teach me is everyone has different skin, 146 00:07:16,545 --> 00:07:20,305 Speaker 2: and you can't try and replicate, you know, somebody else's bodies, 147 00:07:20,345 --> 00:07:22,505 Speaker 2: hype for yours or whatever. You have to work with 148 00:07:22,585 --> 00:07:23,145 Speaker 2: what you've got. 149 00:07:23,305 --> 00:07:25,385 Speaker 1: That's such a good point. And even just on the 150 00:07:25,425 --> 00:07:28,025 Speaker 1: social media, a lot of the images that we're seeing 151 00:07:28,065 --> 00:07:31,305 Speaker 1: of these beautiful faces, as you said, in real life, 152 00:07:31,505 --> 00:07:33,625 Speaker 1: aren't going to match up to the people that you 153 00:07:33,705 --> 00:07:36,185 Speaker 1: might be following in kind of, you know, aiming to 154 00:07:36,225 --> 00:07:39,625 Speaker 1: get poorless skin or completely wrinkle free skin, and then 155 00:07:39,665 --> 00:07:43,225 Speaker 1: in real life it's not really that's not really reality. 156 00:07:43,505 --> 00:07:45,185 Speaker 2: I don't even know if you were alive, But were 157 00:07:45,225 --> 00:07:47,985 Speaker 2: you when the oscars used to be without stylists? 158 00:07:48,225 --> 00:07:54,745 Speaker 1: When was that? I don't know. Well, I'm thirty three. 159 00:07:53,865 --> 00:07:55,705 Speaker 2: And now I can remember in the nineties when I 160 00:07:55,705 --> 00:07:57,025 Speaker 2: first started designing, we'd. 161 00:07:56,905 --> 00:07:59,025 Speaker 1: Watch them and I guess when people used to wear 162 00:07:59,065 --> 00:07:59,745 Speaker 1: what they want. 163 00:07:59,545 --> 00:08:02,465 Speaker 2: To wear, and it used to be hilarious. 164 00:08:02,625 --> 00:08:04,385 Speaker 1: And when you look at the red carpets from then 165 00:08:04,465 --> 00:08:07,305 Speaker 1: and you're like, they're really just dressing for themselves, and 166 00:08:07,345 --> 00:08:08,265 Speaker 1: it was hilarious. 167 00:08:08,305 --> 00:08:10,785 Speaker 2: You've got, oh my god, what is she wearing. She 168 00:08:10,865 --> 00:08:13,265 Speaker 2: looks like toilet brushoulder oh my god? 169 00:08:13,345 --> 00:08:13,745 Speaker 1: What you know? 170 00:08:13,865 --> 00:08:16,345 Speaker 2: Then the York comes in as a Swan and it 171 00:08:16,385 --> 00:08:18,825 Speaker 2: was so much fun. It was like Ellis in Wonderland, 172 00:08:18,865 --> 00:08:23,025 Speaker 2: you know, and it was fantastic. It was entertaining, and also, yeah, 173 00:08:23,025 --> 00:08:25,065 Speaker 2: it was people's personalities coming through. 174 00:08:25,305 --> 00:08:27,945 Speaker 1: I think it's so funny because even recently, I've been 175 00:08:27,985 --> 00:08:31,185 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of you know, media companies posting red 176 00:08:31,265 --> 00:08:33,785 Speaker 1: carpets from years ago and just you know a lot 177 00:08:33,785 --> 00:08:35,905 Speaker 1: of people laughing at what people used to wear, being like, 178 00:08:35,945 --> 00:08:37,745 Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't like they actually wore that 179 00:08:37,785 --> 00:08:40,425 Speaker 1: into like an award ceremony or an award show or whatever. 180 00:08:40,505 --> 00:08:43,065 Speaker 1: And it's just so true that it just kind of 181 00:08:43,105 --> 00:08:46,625 Speaker 1: evolved into this whole different world. And with beauty as well, 182 00:08:55,385 --> 00:08:57,585 Speaker 1: I mean, what is your self cares to give us 183 00:08:57,625 --> 00:09:02,225 Speaker 1: the dirty detail? Right now? I want to dive into 184 00:09:02,265 --> 00:09:04,905 Speaker 1: your skincare routine, because you've touched a little bit about 185 00:09:05,105 --> 00:09:08,185 Speaker 1: the products that you use. You're big on cleanser, you're 186 00:09:08,225 --> 00:09:11,745 Speaker 1: big on SBS, you mentioned oil. I want to get 187 00:09:11,745 --> 00:09:13,705 Speaker 1: into the nitty gritty of it. Tell me a little 188 00:09:13,745 --> 00:09:18,185 Speaker 1: bit about what kind of steps you do in your 189 00:09:18,185 --> 00:09:20,385 Speaker 1: morning skincare routine. And then maybe you're Nate. 190 00:09:20,625 --> 00:09:22,785 Speaker 2: Well, I'm one of those people very confused by the 191 00:09:22,825 --> 00:09:25,465 Speaker 2: media because I probably you know a few years ago, 192 00:09:25,505 --> 00:09:27,305 Speaker 2: get you must use this because we'll get rid of 193 00:09:27,345 --> 00:09:29,145 Speaker 2: all your wrinkles. Will do this, and you look so 194 00:09:29,265 --> 00:09:31,025 Speaker 2: much better in the next six weeks. 195 00:09:31,145 --> 00:09:33,585 Speaker 1: It's so confusing, And then out that I try. 196 00:09:33,625 --> 00:09:35,305 Speaker 2: I can't remember what I tried, and it's like that 197 00:09:35,345 --> 00:09:37,385 Speaker 2: didn't work. I mean, if you think back to the 198 00:09:37,385 --> 00:09:41,505 Speaker 2: Greeks and the Romans and they all oregona oil, thyme oil, rosemary, 199 00:09:41,585 --> 00:09:44,985 Speaker 2: everything natural. I've honestly been just using that lately, like 200 00:09:45,065 --> 00:09:48,705 Speaker 2: this sole Face night oil, and I think it's great. 201 00:09:48,785 --> 00:09:51,305 Speaker 2: It's so simple and the nettle's so powerful. 202 00:09:51,545 --> 00:09:55,145 Speaker 1: I've never thought of using netal as an ingredient. 203 00:09:55,385 --> 00:09:59,145 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've read about it. It's incredibly great for cleansing, 204 00:09:59,345 --> 00:10:04,225 Speaker 2: for regenerating, and whether it's kamam mile or lavender or 205 00:10:04,345 --> 00:10:08,185 Speaker 2: another brand that I also recently came across, same thing, 206 00:10:08,505 --> 00:10:11,905 Speaker 2: so many other things called arasel. Do you know arosel No, I. 207 00:10:11,865 --> 00:10:12,745 Speaker 1: Haven't heard of that one. 208 00:10:12,825 --> 00:10:15,585 Speaker 2: So that's a Korean brand, and I think Korea is 209 00:10:15,745 --> 00:10:19,145 Speaker 2: very interesting in what they're doing at the moment. Anyway, 210 00:10:19,185 --> 00:10:23,225 Speaker 2: This is an SPF fifty and it's like a powder, 211 00:10:23,465 --> 00:10:25,265 Speaker 2: so it's just a face powder and you put it on. 212 00:10:25,345 --> 00:10:28,265 Speaker 2: It's got SPF fifty and very very few chemicals in 213 00:10:28,305 --> 00:10:30,145 Speaker 2: it at all, and I thought it's such a great idea, 214 00:10:30,185 --> 00:10:30,825 Speaker 2: like a sun block. 215 00:10:30,945 --> 00:10:33,465 Speaker 1: So that's a skincare product that's not like a makeup product. 216 00:10:33,505 --> 00:10:35,825 Speaker 1: It's like an spawder almost, yeah, but it. 217 00:10:35,785 --> 00:10:38,305 Speaker 2: Is like it's instead of putting foundation or anything on 218 00:10:38,345 --> 00:10:40,025 Speaker 2: as a base, you just put the powder on and 219 00:10:40,025 --> 00:10:42,425 Speaker 2: it kind of gives you a very matt even thing 220 00:10:42,465 --> 00:10:45,585 Speaker 2: and it's not at all heavy and it's fantastic. Actually 221 00:10:45,665 --> 00:10:47,025 Speaker 2: it's not cheap, but it's great. 222 00:10:47,105 --> 00:10:49,905 Speaker 1: Did you get that online? Yes you would, Yeah, I 223 00:10:49,945 --> 00:10:50,465 Speaker 1: bought it. 224 00:10:50,465 --> 00:10:53,425 Speaker 2: It's it's Korean and I bought it in Switzerland and 225 00:10:53,465 --> 00:10:54,905 Speaker 2: it's aroosel Okay. 226 00:10:54,985 --> 00:10:56,145 Speaker 1: I've got to look that one up. 227 00:10:56,225 --> 00:10:58,065 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, if you're going to go down that track 228 00:10:58,065 --> 00:11:00,665 Speaker 2: with some branded things, and you know, I guess you know. 229 00:11:00,705 --> 00:11:03,065 Speaker 2: It's when kind of La Maia came in. It's basically 230 00:11:03,105 --> 00:11:05,665 Speaker 2: to me, it's like Nivia, bit different, but I think 231 00:11:05,705 --> 00:11:08,145 Speaker 2: it's great moisturized and if I could afford to, I'd 232 00:11:08,145 --> 00:11:10,385 Speaker 2: have it a lot. But as well, other things do 233 00:11:10,865 --> 00:11:14,625 Speaker 2: almost nearly the same job. And another product I've started 234 00:11:14,705 --> 00:11:18,425 Speaker 2: using actually for cleanser No tox MD from New Zealand. 235 00:11:18,105 --> 00:11:20,425 Speaker 1: And that's I've actually heard of that brand before. 236 00:11:20,505 --> 00:11:23,425 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's from New Zealand now, so they're very simple, 237 00:11:24,185 --> 00:11:25,385 Speaker 2: A little bit goes a long way. 238 00:11:25,945 --> 00:11:28,145 Speaker 1: The cleanser like is it kind of like a gel. 239 00:11:27,945 --> 00:11:30,025 Speaker 2: Or well, it's a gel and a bottle and it's 240 00:11:30,105 --> 00:11:32,305 Speaker 2: a tiny bit and it's very soapy. But it doesn't 241 00:11:32,345 --> 00:11:33,905 Speaker 2: take a long time to get off, you know how 242 00:11:33,945 --> 00:11:37,665 Speaker 2: sometimes when things are way too much mulsified. Yeah, you're like, oh, 243 00:11:37,705 --> 00:11:39,465 Speaker 2: I'm trying to eat to scrub the skin off the 244 00:11:39,465 --> 00:11:41,185 Speaker 2: first layer to get it off. So it's more like 245 00:11:41,185 --> 00:11:45,145 Speaker 2: a scrub. But it's just very simple and gentle and easy. 246 00:11:45,225 --> 00:11:48,105 Speaker 1: We love easy simple skincare. Tell me a little bit 247 00:11:48,105 --> 00:11:50,585 Speaker 1: about your night routine. Do you use many of those 248 00:11:50,585 --> 00:11:53,465 Speaker 1: products in your night routine or do you have some 249 00:11:53,585 --> 00:11:55,025 Speaker 1: different things that you like to use. 250 00:11:55,225 --> 00:11:59,225 Speaker 2: Well, depends on what I've like when I traveled, I 251 00:11:59,345 --> 00:12:01,945 Speaker 2: take the smallest thing I've got, so I've been using 252 00:12:01,985 --> 00:12:04,625 Speaker 2: my night all that I made. But the other thing 253 00:12:04,705 --> 00:12:07,265 Speaker 2: I do use is the no tox MD serum. And 254 00:12:07,865 --> 00:12:09,585 Speaker 2: you know the other thing is I think everyone's about 255 00:12:09,625 --> 00:12:13,465 Speaker 2: it anti aging now. Suddenly it's moved from being you know, 256 00:12:13,825 --> 00:12:16,505 Speaker 2: just healthy to everyone wants to look younger. And I 257 00:12:16,545 --> 00:12:17,065 Speaker 2: don't get that. 258 00:12:17,425 --> 00:12:21,145 Speaker 1: It feels like in recent years we've almost been told 259 00:12:21,185 --> 00:12:23,465 Speaker 1: that anti aging is dead, and that's a thing that 260 00:12:23,545 --> 00:12:25,705 Speaker 1: we used to do and we don't do it so 261 00:12:25,825 --> 00:12:28,985 Speaker 1: much anymore. But I think it's very much just being rebranded, 262 00:12:29,825 --> 00:12:33,705 Speaker 1: as with many other things, because I don't think truly 263 00:12:33,745 --> 00:12:36,705 Speaker 1: when you do look at what's on the market, what 264 00:12:37,025 --> 00:12:40,065 Speaker 1: a lot of celebrities look like in their forties and fifties, 265 00:12:40,305 --> 00:12:43,465 Speaker 1: there's no argument that anti aging is dead. It's very 266 00:12:43,505 --> 00:12:45,025 Speaker 1: much still a thing that's sold to us. 267 00:12:45,145 --> 00:12:48,465 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think every now and then you see amazing actresses, 268 00:12:48,465 --> 00:12:51,665 Speaker 2: whether it's like a Helen Mirren or Meryl Streep, and 269 00:12:51,705 --> 00:12:53,985 Speaker 2: they feel so comfortable in themselves, and I think you 270 00:12:54,025 --> 00:12:55,945 Speaker 2: can see it in their demeanor and their interviews that 271 00:12:56,025 --> 00:12:59,585 Speaker 2: can lie back and whereas others don't feel as comfortable 272 00:12:59,625 --> 00:13:02,225 Speaker 2: and look twenty years younger than they really are. They 273 00:13:02,265 --> 00:13:04,425 Speaker 2: have the wisdom and the experience, but they don't seem 274 00:13:04,505 --> 00:13:07,985 Speaker 2: to have that kind of laissez fair kind of jinas qua. 275 00:13:08,345 --> 00:13:12,145 Speaker 1: Yeah, deliverance, that's very true. I think there's a lot 276 00:13:12,185 --> 00:13:14,665 Speaker 1: of that happening right now, especially with the rise of 277 00:13:14,745 --> 00:13:17,825 Speaker 1: undetectable surgery and a lot of celebrities that look, as 278 00:13:17,865 --> 00:13:19,785 Speaker 1: you said, twenty years younger, and everyone's like, what have 279 00:13:19,825 --> 00:13:21,665 Speaker 1: they got? Is that just their natural face? How do 280 00:13:21,745 --> 00:13:25,065 Speaker 1: they look like that, and there's also AI and social media. 281 00:13:25,105 --> 00:13:28,025 Speaker 1: It's a whole big ball game there. So no, we 282 00:13:28,145 --> 00:13:31,705 Speaker 1: just touched on skin. Is there any type of foundation? 283 00:13:31,905 --> 00:13:34,185 Speaker 1: Do you kind of use a sheer formula or a 284 00:13:34,225 --> 00:13:37,145 Speaker 1: heavy coverage formula? You're always so glowy, So tell me 285 00:13:37,225 --> 00:13:38,145 Speaker 1: what do you like to use. 286 00:13:38,585 --> 00:13:41,585 Speaker 2: I like to use a brand called Valmont. It's vl 287 00:13:41,865 --> 00:13:45,185 Speaker 2: m o NT, it's Swiss. It's quite sheer, and it's 288 00:13:45,225 --> 00:13:48,545 Speaker 2: got sunscreening and it's got I guess not so many 289 00:13:48,705 --> 00:13:51,225 Speaker 2: metals and chemicals and things like that. But you can 290 00:13:51,225 --> 00:13:52,905 Speaker 2: just buy it online as well. But I think they 291 00:13:52,945 --> 00:13:55,145 Speaker 2: only have about three different shades. But it's a great 292 00:13:55,425 --> 00:13:56,105 Speaker 2: brand to use. 293 00:14:04,385 --> 00:14:07,505 Speaker 1: Here, you've made one of the greatest discoveries. 294 00:14:06,905 --> 00:14:09,945 Speaker 2: Of all time or a miss again. 295 00:14:10,265 --> 00:14:14,865 Speaker 1: Never I want to ask you, what is one skincare 296 00:14:14,905 --> 00:14:18,905 Speaker 1: technique or ingredient that you love and one that you hate. 297 00:14:19,305 --> 00:14:22,785 Speaker 2: Well, I guess I don't like alcohol in skincare because 298 00:14:22,785 --> 00:14:24,665 Speaker 2: I think it dries out your skin and it's something 299 00:14:24,705 --> 00:14:28,745 Speaker 2: that it's too instant. So I'm really anti alcohol and 300 00:14:29,305 --> 00:14:32,145 Speaker 2: skincare cleanses, tonics, all that kind of thing. 301 00:14:32,345 --> 00:14:35,625 Speaker 1: I think we all have memories of absolutely just ripping 302 00:14:35,665 --> 00:14:36,905 Speaker 1: the hell out of our skin. 303 00:14:36,705 --> 00:14:40,745 Speaker 2: With you think which has all great or something? And 304 00:14:41,425 --> 00:14:45,385 Speaker 2: exactly and what I love primrose oil? I love primrose oil. 305 00:14:46,185 --> 00:14:47,025 Speaker 1: Why do you like that? 306 00:14:47,345 --> 00:14:50,785 Speaker 2: It's very light, feels healthy, and it does absorbs very quickly. 307 00:14:51,305 --> 00:14:52,905 Speaker 2: And I've read a lot about it, and I think 308 00:14:52,945 --> 00:14:55,065 Speaker 2: there are a lot of great benefits to putting it 309 00:14:55,065 --> 00:14:56,425 Speaker 2: into your body and on your skin. 310 00:14:56,505 --> 00:14:59,185 Speaker 1: So would you just use primrose oil by itself on 311 00:14:59,225 --> 00:15:01,105 Speaker 1: your skin? Okay? And even bo oil? 312 00:15:01,145 --> 00:15:04,745 Speaker 2: Actually, I think boil is great too because it's you know, 313 00:15:04,745 --> 00:15:06,945 Speaker 2: if you've got scars or you're dry or whatever. It 314 00:15:06,945 --> 00:15:08,465 Speaker 2: doesn't have to be just for your face. I use 315 00:15:08,465 --> 00:15:10,225 Speaker 2: it on my you know, fu guard a lot on 316 00:15:10,305 --> 00:15:13,185 Speaker 2: my hands. And olive oil. Olive oil's great. 317 00:15:13,625 --> 00:15:16,145 Speaker 1: What primrose oil do you like to use? Or what 318 00:15:16,265 --> 00:15:17,025 Speaker 1: brands do you like? 319 00:15:17,185 --> 00:15:19,625 Speaker 2: Trilogy has been great and it's from New Zealand, so 320 00:15:19,665 --> 00:15:20,105 Speaker 2: of course I. 321 00:15:20,105 --> 00:15:21,345 Speaker 1: Was great in New Zealand brand. 322 00:15:21,465 --> 00:15:24,865 Speaker 2: Yes, another New Zealand brand, Yeah, No, I love Trilogy. 323 00:15:25,065 --> 00:15:28,145 Speaker 1: This brings me to your book, your glorious book that's 324 00:15:28,145 --> 00:15:30,745 Speaker 1: sitting in the middle of the table here. It looks amazing. 325 00:15:30,865 --> 00:15:32,425 Speaker 1: I've heard a lot about it and I've had a 326 00:15:32,425 --> 00:15:37,065 Speaker 1: little flick through it's called Bellissima, An Australian Italian Affair. 327 00:15:37,785 --> 00:15:43,665 Speaker 1: And you've said it takes you into a world of beauty, interiors, gardens, food, friends, curiosities, 328 00:15:43,905 --> 00:15:47,825 Speaker 1: art and travel in Italy and Australia. Tell me a 329 00:15:47,865 --> 00:15:48,745 Speaker 1: little bit about this. 330 00:15:49,225 --> 00:15:52,105 Speaker 2: I think you know, this book came about because I 331 00:15:52,105 --> 00:15:55,265 Speaker 2: guess my love of food and I have always had 332 00:15:55,305 --> 00:15:57,625 Speaker 2: people saying, can you write down your mum's dressing for me? 333 00:15:57,705 --> 00:15:58,305 Speaker 2: Can you do this? 334 00:15:58,345 --> 00:15:58,905 Speaker 1: Can you do that? 335 00:15:59,465 --> 00:16:01,945 Speaker 2: And then I was asked to do a book on interior, 336 00:16:02,025 --> 00:16:04,265 Speaker 2: and I've sort of always I'm very mindful. I'm not 337 00:16:04,305 --> 00:16:08,025 Speaker 2: an interior designer, you know. It's my collection of curiosities 338 00:16:08,065 --> 00:16:11,305 Speaker 2: and my kind of take on you know, and living 339 00:16:11,305 --> 00:16:13,625 Speaker 2: in Italy, there was so much then, and I feel 340 00:16:14,145 --> 00:16:15,625 Speaker 2: it's kind of like I used to feel when I 341 00:16:15,665 --> 00:16:17,345 Speaker 2: went to Paris to do my shows. As soon as 342 00:16:17,345 --> 00:16:19,985 Speaker 2: I touched down, it was my second home. And now 343 00:16:20,105 --> 00:16:22,505 Speaker 2: I really feel, especially that our children went to school 344 00:16:22,545 --> 00:16:24,625 Speaker 2: there and we you know, our intention was to spend 345 00:16:24,625 --> 00:16:28,385 Speaker 2: a lot longer there was that it is a second home. 346 00:16:28,425 --> 00:16:30,425 Speaker 2: But it's so different and it's kind of it's not 347 00:16:30,465 --> 00:16:33,785 Speaker 2: the antithesist of Australia because really it's about we all 348 00:16:33,785 --> 00:16:36,545 Speaker 2: love food here, we all love you know, life, and 349 00:16:36,585 --> 00:16:38,425 Speaker 2: it's the adults of the sweet life in Italy. Is 350 00:16:38,465 --> 00:16:40,705 Speaker 2: still a sweet life in Australia, but it's a different life, 351 00:16:41,025 --> 00:16:43,665 Speaker 2: and I wanted to show you know. I can remember 352 00:16:44,145 --> 00:16:46,745 Speaker 2: when I first came here. Oh god, I was, you know, 353 00:16:47,105 --> 00:16:50,265 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty. I'd go to Bondai Beach with friends and 354 00:16:50,265 --> 00:16:52,065 Speaker 2: we'd have fish and chips and throw the chips to 355 00:16:52,145 --> 00:16:55,025 Speaker 2: seagulls and have a glass. Everything was possible for not 356 00:16:55,145 --> 00:16:58,905 Speaker 2: much money. And Italy is like that. It has it's 357 00:16:59,025 --> 00:17:03,385 Speaker 2: very different. Yeah, I know, it's just about time and 358 00:17:03,425 --> 00:17:05,385 Speaker 2: you have to slow a little to enjoy it. 359 00:17:05,625 --> 00:17:08,745 Speaker 1: You've inspired me even just flicking through your book, all 360 00:17:08,785 --> 00:17:12,065 Speaker 1: the beautiful recipe use everything looks stunning. I think I 361 00:17:12,105 --> 00:17:14,945 Speaker 1: need to get into cooking and use some of these recipes. 362 00:17:15,305 --> 00:17:18,305 Speaker 1: You've talked a little bit about living in Italy. You know, 363 00:17:18,385 --> 00:17:20,705 Speaker 1: you mentioned some of your close friends that you have 364 00:17:20,785 --> 00:17:22,705 Speaker 1: over there. What do you think is the secret to 365 00:17:23,065 --> 00:17:26,065 Speaker 1: an Italian woman's beauty. I feel like they just have 366 00:17:26,265 --> 00:17:27,665 Speaker 1: something about them. 367 00:17:28,065 --> 00:17:33,225 Speaker 2: Lots of ottive oil, you know. I think there's a 368 00:17:33,265 --> 00:17:36,345 Speaker 2: lot of passion in life. There's a lot of emotion, 369 00:17:36,665 --> 00:17:39,025 Speaker 2: and it's not kept inside. You know, one day you're 370 00:17:39,105 --> 00:17:40,945 Speaker 2: arguing and screaming at each other, the next day you're 371 00:17:40,985 --> 00:17:44,585 Speaker 2: kissing and cuddling, and you know it's very much a release. 372 00:17:44,705 --> 00:17:47,705 Speaker 2: But at the same time, even though we go to 373 00:17:47,745 --> 00:17:50,225 Speaker 2: Italy and we can't stop eating pastor in the first week, 374 00:17:50,505 --> 00:17:51,505 Speaker 2: there's a lot of moderation. 375 00:17:51,825 --> 00:17:54,065 Speaker 1: I think I need an Italian escape with you, Collan. 376 00:17:54,265 --> 00:17:55,865 Speaker 1: I think I just need to come over just to 377 00:17:55,865 --> 00:17:59,625 Speaker 1: see what it's all about. I want to finish up 378 00:17:59,625 --> 00:18:02,665 Speaker 1: by asking you, after your incredible time that you've spent 379 00:18:02,745 --> 00:18:05,665 Speaker 1: in the industry, what does beauty truly mean to you? 380 00:18:06,265 --> 00:18:09,825 Speaker 2: Beauty to me is confidence. And I think anybody who 381 00:18:09,865 --> 00:18:13,625 Speaker 2: steps out with great confidence and integrity and honesty and 382 00:18:13,625 --> 00:18:17,425 Speaker 2: they're kind and they have something, suddenly they're a beautiful person. 383 00:18:17,905 --> 00:18:20,145 Speaker 2: And I think that's beauty. You can have somebody who 384 00:18:20,225 --> 00:18:23,705 Speaker 2: looks incredibly beautiful and they're not kind, and they're mean, 385 00:18:23,905 --> 00:18:27,185 Speaker 2: and they're not welcoming, and they're not confident, and their 386 00:18:27,185 --> 00:18:31,065 Speaker 2: personality always crosses that line of beauty, you know, of 387 00:18:31,105 --> 00:18:33,665 Speaker 2: what makes someone you think look beautiful, And I think 388 00:18:33,665 --> 00:18:36,865 Speaker 2: it's always something to really remember as your favorite friends 389 00:18:36,865 --> 00:18:38,785 Speaker 2: in life and the people that you love the most 390 00:18:38,945 --> 00:18:40,825 Speaker 2: when you think of them, do you think of exactly 391 00:18:40,865 --> 00:18:43,385 Speaker 2: how their eyes or how their face or their skins? 392 00:18:43,425 --> 00:18:46,305 Speaker 2: You think of their personality? And that comes with how 393 00:18:46,345 --> 00:18:49,265 Speaker 2: you treat yourself and how you respect yourself and how 394 00:18:49,305 --> 00:18:52,305 Speaker 2: you treat others. And I think that is really beauty 395 00:18:52,585 --> 00:18:53,345 Speaker 2: inside and out. 396 00:18:53,785 --> 00:18:57,545 Speaker 1: Oh Glat, that was so beautiful. Thank you so much 397 00:18:57,745 --> 00:18:59,785 Speaker 1: for coming on the show today. I had such a 398 00:18:59,785 --> 00:19:02,985 Speaker 1: fantastic chat with you, and we appreciate you stopping by. 399 00:19:03,385 --> 00:19:05,265 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, Thank you. 400 00:19:05,185 --> 00:19:07,785 Speaker 1: So much for listening. If you like the show, please 401 00:19:07,825 --> 00:19:09,705 Speaker 1: go and leave us a five star of you. I 402 00:19:09,745 --> 00:19:12,505 Speaker 1: will love you forever. 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