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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Sees the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy,

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Speaker 1: but tired and worn, just some of the feelings when

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Speaker 1: baby is born. There's magic, elation, there's chaos and tears,

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Speaker 1: but everyone goes through the same hopes and fears. So

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Speaker 1: this is a segment we hope helps you feel supported

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Speaker 1: and valid. The mum juggles real, the good, bad, the ugly,

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Speaker 1: the best and worst day. It's part of the journey

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Speaker 1: to seize the Babe. I'm Sarah Davidson, a lawyer turned

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Speaker 1: entrepreneur who hung up the suits and heels to co

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Speaker 1: found Macha Maiden a Macha Milk Bar, become a TV

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Speaker 1: and radio presenter, and of course, host The Sees the

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Speaker 1: Ya Podcast. This year, I added motherhood to that list,

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Speaker 1: which is the best job I've ever had with our

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Speaker 1: beautiful baby Teddy, and this segment was designed to house

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Speaker 1: all the conversations we've been having about parenthood. We'll still

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Speaker 1: do our regular episodes and just like real life, it's

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Speaker 1: a constant balance between our parent identity and everything else.

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Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoy this segment as much as

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Speaker 1: I have enjoyed creating it. Hello, Lovely neighborhood. This is

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Speaker 1: part two of our hotly awaited episode of Seize the

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Speaker 1: Bebe on starting solids with the founder of Nourishing Bubs

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Speaker 1: and pediatric dietician Olivia Bates. We just covered so much

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Speaker 1: detail on so many different topics and elements to this

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Speaker 1: very overwhelming area of parenting that I decided to split

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Speaker 1: it in two. So the last episode covered when to

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Speaker 1: start solids and the methods, sort of the landscape on

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Speaker 1: pures versus baby ledweening and all of your questions on

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Speaker 1: those areas, and then this episode will cover off some

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Speaker 1: of the sleep questions, but mainly it will focus on allergens.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to part one, this does follow

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Speaker 1: on from that, so please go back and listen to

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Speaker 1: that first. And as always, every baby is different and

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Speaker 1: every family has different preferences, priorities and needs, so this

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Speaker 1: is all more general information and of course it will

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Speaker 1: vary for each individual. I hope that you guys enjoy

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Speaker 1: and find it as useful as I did, and links

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Speaker 1: to everything will be in the show notes. So one

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Speaker 1: of the really big questions was how does the introduction

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Speaker 1: of solids interact with sleep? And I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of the like definitely what's happened with Teddy is it

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Speaker 1: a pediatric dietician.

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Speaker 2: Look, it's definitely anecdotal. People definitely like, yeah, the four

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Speaker 2: But it is very anecdotal. There's no like strong evidence

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Speaker 2: Because also milk like is easier to digest, so it's

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Speaker 1: A bit, Yeah, perfect, all right, allergens. Now this is

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Speaker 1: And I think you explaining what your intro to Allergen's

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Speaker 2: So look, allergies are still very much an area of

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, would you buy can you buy an

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Speaker 1: EpiPen just in case a child is anaphylectic to something

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether you can. It's definitely not standard

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Speaker 2: not sure that they would. But because anaphylactic reactions, although

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Speaker 2: antihistamine would be, you know, something to have on hand,

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Speaker 2: and that's a great option, and that's for something you'd

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Speaker 2: But having an EpiPen on hand is not standard practic.

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Speaker 1: Great, thank you. I think that was something a lot

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Speaker 1: of parents sort of asked, can you have an EpiPen?

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Speaker 2: like some of those medical societies, they're like these products

431
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 2: get like so like overpriced, but we really wanted to

432
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,479
Speaker 2: make it like practical as well.

433
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it is so I can't even explain

434
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 1: to you, like even listening to this, having been in

435
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,560
Speaker 1: it and still doing it, I still underestimate what a

436
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 1: full time job keeping your child's palette exposed and doing

437
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 1: all these things and maintaining the right like it's a lot.

438
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 1: It's like another full time job. And any practical, affordable,

439
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 1: accessible help that you can get because the momental load

440
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 1: is already extraordinary, is like you are doing God's work,

441
00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,160
Speaker 1: my love, like you are a gift to from the heavens,

442
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 1: because it's so much like even processing you saying all this,

443
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here googling. I'd even though I already

444
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 1: know it It's just blowing my mind how helpful it

445
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 1: is to have it all packaged. The list is already

446
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 1: there because it's in the packet. You know what you've done,

447
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 1: because you know what's open. They've all got cute little

448
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 1: names like it's all the nuts, it's soy, it's milk

449
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 1: and egg, it can mix it in the form factor.

450
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: The instructions are on the packet. It is Honestly, I've

451
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 1: never had so many questions as the first time I

452
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 1: posted that, because every mum knows they have to do this.

453
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 1: It's just something you've got to do. It comes with

454
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 1: being a parent, and it is so scary and so

455
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 1: much prep and so much hard work. And anyone who

456
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 1: hasn't heard of it, I'm sure we'll want to know

457
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: when they can get it. So the link to the

458
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 1: Allergen Kit will definitely be in the show notes.

459
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Speaker 2: It's my baby, Yeah, it is my pride and joy,

460
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 2: that one. It is. It's something I really wanted to

461
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: for quite a few years and I was like, cow,

462
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: how do I do this? Yeah, it was something that

463
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 2: and it just partners so well with like our other offering,

464
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 2: and I think that lead in so it has been

465
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 2: like really well received. Yeah, I'm about to take it

466
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 2: to the stage tomorrow.

467
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 1: I know, Oh my gosh, I'm going tomorrow, in which

468
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 1: case I definitely need to let you go. I could

469
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: sit here and talk to you and ask you questions forever.

470
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 1: But is there anything that you get asked most commonly

471
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Speaker 1: that we haven't covered that a parent who was about

472
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: to embark on their journey or was in the journey,

473
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Speaker 1: and you know you would love to sort of impart

474
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Speaker 1: to them. What are some things I've missed or we

475
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: haven't covered?

476
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 2: I would say, like definitely, Like although like I'm sure

477
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 2: people listen, be like this is so overwhelming. It is

478
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: just like take every day like one at a time,

479
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 2: like I think ahead of it. You're like, holy shit,

480
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: like there's so much that and there is a lot

481
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: to think about, but also like enjoy it, like it's fine,

482
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: it's cute. It's like it's interesting to watch them. You know,

483
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: you are in such a unique position to lay these

484
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 2: foundations but also be gentle on yourself and like, you know,

485
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 2: I want to be fair and say like, of course,

486
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm like very proud of my brand, but like you know,

487
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 2: if you have to reach for a pouch or something

488
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 2: like you know, some people like literally like especially my friends,

489
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Speaker 2: I guess they'll be like, I don't want you to

490
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 2: see the I offered my child of help, like I'm

491
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 2: like judging them and I'm not like I'm like I

492
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: get it, Like it's it's hard and like the practical

493
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, like you've got to do also

494
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 2: what works for you and like, you know, so be

495
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: gentle with yourself as long as you know the intention

496
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: is there and you know you're trying to like even

497
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 2: with the way we eat it, like I go like

498
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: eighty twenty rule, like you know, always aim for the best,

499
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 2: but like there's going to be days or wet things

500
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Speaker 2: out of routine and so definitely be gentle with yourself.

501
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: The only other one I get asked a lot about

502
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Speaker 2: salts so too much.

503
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that salt.

504
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Speaker 2: So people are always like, oh my god, so like

505
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Speaker 2: I made this meal and I wanted to give some

506
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Speaker 2: to baby, but like I've already salted it. The salt

507
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: thing I think has really been blown so out of proportion.

508
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: Like if you like, obviously if you're preparing food for barb,

509
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: like they don't need salt. Added to it. Their taste

510
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: buds are so you know, neutral, and you can definitely

511
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: keep it. You know, they don't need the excess of

512
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: flavoring that you and I would need. But in saying that,

513
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 2: like if you prepare a meal and you're like, oh,

514
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: I just want to give them a you know, see

515
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 2: if they like it, like absolutely fine, Like you know

516
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Speaker 2: you're making past you salt the water.

517
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: Like that, it's okay.

518
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: People literally like they message me and they're like, oh

519
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 2: my god, have I like ruined my jot? Like people

520
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 2: get so stressed about it, and I think it's been

521
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: really blown so far out. The issue is like processed

522
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 2: food has a lot of salt added to it. As

523
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Speaker 2: long as you're not giving your baby like packeted food

524
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Speaker 2: every single day, like it's got salt added to it,

525
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: it's fine. Like they actually do need sodium. It's just

526
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: you know, just being conscious of you know, if you

527
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Speaker 2: are offering packeted food, you know how much sodium is

528
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: in it, and you know things like that. But like

529
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Speaker 2: if you're preparing food for scratch and yeah, you put

530
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Speaker 2: a bit of salt in it. Honestly, it's not the

531
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Speaker 2: end of the world. So again, be gentle and like

532
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Speaker 2: the only other thing I'll say is really aside from

533
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Speaker 2: like honey, which we actually didn't mention.

534
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Speaker 1: Of course I didn't even know.

535
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are foods you shouldn't give, like honey is

536
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Speaker 2: probably the only one that you shouldn't give until they're

537
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 2: twelve months, just because of the risk of botulism. But

538
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 2: aside from that, pretty much everything else is fine. Like

539
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: it's obviously being careful of the way that you cut

540
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 2: foods and things like that for a choking perspective, always

541
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Speaker 2: observing your child when they eating. But you know, aside from.

542
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: That, like go nuts, try it all, like you know, yeah,

543
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: go nut, go nuts, literally exactly like literally go nuts.

544
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exposed them to as much as possible. You know,

545
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: do what works for you. Don't make it extra complicated.

546
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: Like sometimes you read things that are like you need

547
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: to like sour the oats and do this and do that,

548
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: Like let's just be like life is hard and yeah,

549
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: like I think, don't make your life too complicated, you know. Ultimately,

550
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: I think the goal is by the time your baby

551
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 2: is one, that they can at least have a very

552
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 2: version of what you're having. Like that would always be

553
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: my goal. So if you know you guys eat a

554
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: lot of herbs and spices, like, make sure you've started

555
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: to expose that to them, because then you know, when

556
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: you are making a meal for yourself, you can just

557
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 2: cut a little bit off a bub and offer it

558
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: to them in a varied format like yeah, just be

559
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: kind and gentle and you know, enjoy the process rather

560
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: than don't get yourself too worked up, because I think

561
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: the information can really stress you out unnecessarily.

562
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And that is one thing that I said to you, actually,

563
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: is that having nourishing bubs actually did free up the

564
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: brain space that would have prevented me maybe enjoying it

565
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: as much. It made room for the enjoyment because the

566
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: stressy bit was kind of already taken care of. And

567
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: thank you so much for adding that about salt and honey,

568
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: because the really important questions that I hadn't thought of

569
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Speaker 1: the only other one I would add that just came

570
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: up with water. When would you add bub drinking water?

571
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: Yes, so great question. So water you want to start

572
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: offering when they start solids, but only with meals, so

573
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 2: just like little SIPs of water, And just to basically

574
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: the reason for it is they don't develop their first

575
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 2: reflex until they're twelve months of age, so they need

576
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: to get in the habit of it. It will also

577
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: help with things like constipation, which can be unfortunately a

578
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: bit of an unwanted side effect of starting solids, just

579
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 2: because as their digestive system changes, So just giving them

580
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: little SIPs of water as they are having their meals,

581
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: and you just need to make sure it's cooled boiled

582
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 2: water until the age of twelve months. You don't need

583
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: to like sterilize their cups or anything like that, but

584
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: you just you know, like dishwasher is absolutely fine, but

585
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 2: yet just cooled boiled tapwater is fine. And idea you

586
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: initially you probably want to give them a cup that

587
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: like doesn't spill so that they get used to holding it,

588
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 2: But as soon as they are comfortable holding it, get

589
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: the one that does spill, Like if they turn it up,

590
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: it does spill, so that they understand like the harder

591
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 2: they suck, the faster the water will flow. So that

592
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: means like making sure there's like not a valve on it.

593
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: Things like the b box with a straw is a

594
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: really great product, but you just want to it has

595
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: a valve at the top of it. So, particularly for

596
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: at home, you just want to cut the valve off

597
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: so that, you know, the harder they suck, the faster

598
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 2: the water flows. So a straw is a really good

599
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: option for them. You don't want them drinking from like

600
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Speaker 2: a you know, like a teeated bottle or anything like that. Otherwise,

601
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: you can get those little open cups that almost look

602
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: like a little espresso cup and just put a little

603
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: bit of water in them and get them into the

604
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: habit of drinking from the side. Obviously, that takes a

605
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: bit of practice initially, you know, they probably are just

606
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 2: gonna like tip it down what you react to initially,

607
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: but you know, just put in a little bit in

608
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: there so that they can start to like play with

609
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: it and get used to it and start to drink,

610
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Speaker 2: and then ultimately by eighteen months they should be able

611
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Speaker 2: to drink from like an open cup.

612
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Speaker 1: When do you stop boiling it? When you do stop

613
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: boiling it, can you just give them tap water? Should

614
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: it be filtered instead of boiled water? Can you give

615
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: them filtered water or what about bottled water? Like what

616
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: are the different waters?

617
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, really good question. So filtered water is not

618
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: adequate enough because it just gets out like the large particles.

619
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: It's all to do with the particle size. Like, because

620
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: if there was something like Yadia would not be like

621
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: filtered out by a filter. However, with a boiled water,

622
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: tap water would also be fine. So like, particularly if

623
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: you're traveling like you know, like Insydny, you know, or

624
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: in it sorry in Australia, like we're lucky the water

625
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: supply is so good. But obviously if there was any

626
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: issues like from storms and things, and the government had said,

627
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: oh you need to start boiling water, definitely bring it back.

628
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: But after twelve months it's generally considered you know, safe

629
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: to stop the boiling the water. But obviously if you're

630
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: traveling and the water supply was not good, I would

631
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: just be buying bottled water and that's fine. So bottled

632
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: water is fine. Filtered water is not the same. You

633
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: would still need to do it, but otherwise, yeah, after

634
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: twelve months, tapwater actually is still also fine.

635
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Speaker 1: Amazing, Oh my gosh, you you are just such a

636
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge. Thank you so much for today, for

637
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: everything you've done for us, for everything you continue to

638
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: do for us. You're extraordinary.

639
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh no, honestly, I'm so inspired. By you. I've followed

640
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: you for so long and that this is actually such

641
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: an honor for me. And I'm just so grateful for

642
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: your support, like every time you're just so kind and yeah,

643
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: it truly meant a lot to me. So thanks.

644
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well you can see how measurable, like measurable,

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Speaker 1: the impact has been on our life. And we'll be

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Speaker 1: forever grateful to you and for you for that and

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Speaker 1: wish you all the best in the US tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, and I'm nervous, like I'm nervous excited

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Speaker 2: we have Yeah, it's a whole new ball game, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: it'll be interesting. I think, Yeah, we're just going with

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Speaker 2: the Allerge impact, but we have to go into a

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Speaker 2: slightly different name.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, you're exciting again, but no, it's exciting, and

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Speaker 1: we've just got so many we're doing a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of finger foods and stuff which you'll come out in

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Speaker 1: the next two months.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited. So they'll be coming your way, lazy.

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Speaker 1: Well, for everyone listening, I will include all of the

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Speaker 1: links to Nourishing Bubs and all of Olivia's resources for you,

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Speaker 1: because I know you will all desperately need them and

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Speaker 1: be wanting them by now and also where we can

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Speaker 1: all follow you. But thank you so much and good luck.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you lovely. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that was a lot of information across

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Speaker 1: this two PARTA. But for anyone who did want to

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Speaker 1: know more about starting solids, I hope that it did

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Speaker 1: help clarify some things that it was informative. I knew

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Speaker 1: all of this already as I've kind of been through

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Speaker 1: this process with Olivia and Teddy. Nourishing Bubs has been

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Speaker 1: such a big part. I mean, I've already said that,

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Speaker 1: but it's been such a big part of our journey.

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Speaker 1: And even still, I found this so interesting and learned

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Speaker 1: a lot that I might have missed the first time around.

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Speaker 1: So I really do hope that you guys found it useful.

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Speaker 1: All the links will be in the show notes. Please

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Speaker 1: do share the episode if you found it useful, and

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Speaker 1: tag at Nurishing Bubs to let them know what you learned,

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Speaker 1: what you found useful if you're going to have a

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Speaker 1: try yourself. And in the meantime, I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: are all having a wonderful week and seizing your ya