WEBVTT - The 30 Seconds That Changed Kate Walsh’s Career (& Life) 0:00:10.365 --> 0:00:13.085 You're listening to a MoMA Maya podcast. 0:00:13.885 --> 0:00:16.845 Mama Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 0:00:16.885 --> 0:00:18.525 that this podcast is recorded on. 0:00:18.725 --> 0:00:21.085 I contend to this day that had I had to 0:00:21.125 --> 0:00:24.245 go in and test for that role with like the 0:00:24.325 --> 0:00:28.245 executives at EBC and with Patrick Dempsey, I wouldn't have 0:00:28.285 --> 0:00:33.325 gotten the part because basically I'm Pat's hate without healing 0:00:34.165 --> 0:00:36.805 and there with heels. I'm taller than him and he 0:00:37.765 --> 0:00:39.645 had a bit of a he loves me that we 0:00:39.685 --> 0:00:43.325 love each other, but he was like, what ye asking me? 0:00:43.725 --> 0:00:47.005 I was like, yeah, here, I am enjoying me. 0:00:56.205 --> 0:00:59.925 From Mamma Maya. You're listening to no filter. I'm Kate Langebrook. 0:01:00.525 --> 0:01:03.445 When actor Kate Walsh thought she might die from the 0:01:03.485 --> 0:01:08.165 brain tumor she'd been diagnosed with, she promised herself that 0:01:08.245 --> 0:01:12.725 if she lived, she changed her life. Well she did live, 0:01:12.845 --> 0:01:17.845 praise b and she did change her life, which included 0:01:17.965 --> 0:01:23.405 leaving Hollywood for perth in Wa almost five years ago 0:01:23.685 --> 0:01:27.365 after finding love with an Aussie man. I can't imagine 0:01:27.365 --> 0:01:30.445 not knowing who Kate whal she is, but she is 0:01:30.485 --> 0:01:35.205 a highly transformative actor, so know this. Kate is best 0:01:35.285 --> 0:01:39.565 known from her career defining role as Addison Montgomery Shepherd 0:01:39.605 --> 0:01:43.925 in Grey's Anatomy, making what's arguably one of the most 0:01:44.245 --> 0:01:46.925 iconic entrances in television history. 0:01:48.765 --> 0:01:50.405 Hey, I'm Adison. 0:01:50.085 --> 0:01:53.205 Shepherd and you must be the woman who's been screwing 0:01:53.205 --> 0:01:54.445 her husband. 0:01:55.485 --> 0:01:59.045 In recent years, Kate's been splitting her time between Perth 0:01:59.125 --> 0:02:03.805 and LA filming shows like Emily in Paris, The Umbrella Academy, 0:02:04.365 --> 0:02:09.325 and her infamous return to Gray's Now the Australian film 0:02:09.365 --> 0:02:13.605 When TV industry has captured her heart, with Kate taking 0:02:13.645 --> 0:02:18.045 on a comedic role in the ABC series Optics, where 0:02:18.045 --> 0:02:22.525 she revisits the comedy routs she first explored alongside Amy 0:02:22.565 --> 0:02:26.445 Poehler and Tina Fay. I couldn't wait to start this conversation, 0:02:28.405 --> 0:02:31.725 Kate Walsh. I'm Kate Lanebrook. Welcome to No Filter. 0:02:32.325 --> 0:02:34.085 Thank you, Kate, thanks for having me. 0:02:34.605 --> 0:02:37.805 Well, it's such a delight to have you because you 0:02:37.885 --> 0:02:43.605 are so known to us in so many incarnations twofold. 0:02:44.885 --> 0:02:50.765 You're an actor whose choices I've realized I can really trust. 0:02:51.525 --> 0:02:52.445 Oh, thank you. 0:02:52.605 --> 0:02:56.725 Yeah, that's an amazing if I and I have traveled 0:02:57.125 --> 0:03:00.805 with you through the journey of your career to a 0:03:00.885 --> 0:03:05.165 large extent. But now my daughter is also traveling with 0:03:05.285 --> 0:03:09.085 you through your body of work, and that is quite incredible. 0:03:09.565 --> 0:03:10.405 She's non tame. 0:03:10.805 --> 0:03:14.125 It is this is like, you know what's interesting about 0:03:14.165 --> 0:03:16.485 that first five I'm easy to tears these days, so 0:03:16.525 --> 0:03:18.485 I might just cry because that it just is so 0:03:18.605 --> 0:03:20.965 touching to me. But it was it was also the 0:03:20.965 --> 0:03:25.445 theme of starting with grace that that was one of 0:03:25.485 --> 0:03:27.565 the beautiful things about the show when it first came 0:03:27.605 --> 0:03:30.445 on is that mothers and daughters families, I mean mothers. 0:03:30.605 --> 0:03:33.125 I'm going to genderize and say they you know, club 0:03:33.165 --> 0:03:35.125 their husbands on the head and made them watch initially 0:03:35.205 --> 0:03:37.565 until they have you know, our boyfriends or whatever. 0:03:38.005 --> 0:03:38.485 And it was. 0:03:38.485 --> 0:03:41.485 Something that was a show that at the time before that, 0:03:41.605 --> 0:03:44.165 before it was ever streaming, before there was the Worldwide 0:03:44.165 --> 0:03:48.365 Internet and all Instagram and and all the things. They 0:03:48.845 --> 0:03:51.845 you know, you watched it every Thursday night in America, 0:03:52.165 --> 0:03:56.205 and it was a multi generational show and things that 0:03:56.285 --> 0:03:58.525 would you know, mothers and daughters could bond over and 0:03:58.565 --> 0:04:01.925 sit and have really meaningful time and watching this this 0:04:01.965 --> 0:04:06.005 show together. So it was meaningful then and now there 0:04:06.085 --> 0:04:08.845 just keeps going. Like I remember when it first happened 0:04:08.885 --> 0:04:10.685 that a kid that was definitely. 0:04:10.285 --> 0:04:13.125 Not born I show. 0:04:13.245 --> 0:04:17.085 They're like, I love your regrets. Yeah Netflix, Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, 0:04:17.085 --> 0:04:20.165 I got it. Yeah, And now it just keeps going, 0:04:20.205 --> 0:04:22.885 which is so cool. I'm so grateful. 0:04:23.365 --> 0:04:25.805 Well, I know that will you say you're grateful, but 0:04:25.845 --> 0:04:29.445 it is also a testament to choices that you've made 0:04:30.245 --> 0:04:33.205 and the way that you have inhabited the roles. And 0:04:33.285 --> 0:04:37.285 for instance, when Grays started, which was two thousand and five. 0:04:37.485 --> 0:04:40.405 Yeah, yeah, we shot that in four two thousand and four, 0:04:40.445 --> 0:04:42.525 I think, yeah. 0:04:41.725 --> 0:04:43.845 And you made an entrance at the end of that 0:04:43.925 --> 0:04:50.405 first series, right, yeah, one of the most iconic character entrances. 0:04:50.925 --> 0:04:53.525 I know. It's so good. That's Shonda Rhymes. 0:04:53.565 --> 0:04:57.125 She just wrote that she wrote thirty seconds of television 0:04:57.165 --> 0:04:59.925 that I got more attention for than anything I'd ever done, 0:04:59.965 --> 0:05:03.245 probably in my entire career, even up til now. 0:05:04.165 --> 0:05:06.285 Did she know when she wrote that that that was 0:05:06.325 --> 0:05:10.605 going to be you? For instance, when they started filming 0:05:11.485 --> 0:05:15.685 the series, were you already cost to bail Addison? 0:05:16.165 --> 0:05:16.525 Oh? 0:05:16.525 --> 0:05:21.765 Now, I was shooting other stuff I had. But Linda Lowe, 0:05:21.925 --> 0:05:26.285 the great Lynda Lowe, who was cast so many things, 0:05:26.325 --> 0:05:30.845 but she cast pretty much all of shondaland she knew me. 0:05:30.965 --> 0:05:32.645 She had cast me in under the Tusk and Son. 0:05:32.725 --> 0:05:35.965 This was back in the day before actors self taped 0:05:36.445 --> 0:05:39.965 or any of that. You went into casting offices or 0:05:40.005 --> 0:05:41.885 if you went on tape, it's because you were in 0:05:41.885 --> 0:05:44.405 New York and the show is in LA and you 0:05:44.525 --> 0:05:46.845 were always with a casting director. So you had the 0:05:46.965 --> 0:05:50.885 luxury of casting directors that really taught you how to act, 0:05:51.085 --> 0:05:53.845 that really were patient, that were really like, oh you 0:05:53.885 --> 0:05:56.085 didn't you might not get this one, but I believe 0:05:56.125 --> 0:05:57.525 in you. I'm going to bring you back, and I 0:05:57.725 --> 0:05:59.325 to bring you back and going to bring you back. 0:05:59.925 --> 0:06:02.245 And so she cast me none of the Tuscan Son 0:06:02.965 --> 0:06:05.925 and then was like, I have something for you. It's 0:06:05.925 --> 0:06:09.245 a recurring role on this new show. It's your perfect 0:06:09.365 --> 0:06:11.205 for it. And I was shooting something else. I was 0:06:11.245 --> 0:06:13.605 out of town. I was actually shooting something with Tim Daley, 0:06:13.685 --> 0:06:15.645 who I later worked with our private practice. 0:06:16.005 --> 0:06:19.805 I was shooting his show, The Fugitive, and so I 0:06:19.845 --> 0:06:20.405 was in Seattle. 0:06:20.445 --> 0:06:22.165 And then I came back to LA and went in 0:06:22.165 --> 0:06:26.405 the room to read, you know, for Shonda, for Linda, 0:06:26.525 --> 0:06:28.405 for her casting assistant John Brace. 0:06:28.445 --> 0:06:29.205 I think it was done. 0:06:29.245 --> 0:06:32.805 And then Peter Horton was written to Betsy Bears and 0:06:32.845 --> 0:06:33.725 then I got it. 0:06:33.805 --> 0:06:36.125 I was in those sides were like, oh, this is me. 0:06:36.645 --> 0:06:40.885 It's the perfect threading the needle of She wrote such intelligent, 0:06:41.005 --> 0:06:45.205 witty like it was a very quick like almost and 0:06:45.245 --> 0:06:49.605 the wit was almost like this kind of forties banter. 0:06:50.205 --> 0:06:54.765 Yeah, you read momcom like William Wyler movie or something, 0:06:55.085 --> 0:06:55.285 and I. 0:06:55.365 --> 0:06:59.965 Had, yeah, yeah, a bit of rabitat tat. 0:07:00.045 --> 0:07:02.765 Yeah, and it had and so then that helped that 0:07:03.085 --> 0:07:05.045 like the character, and that's where it starts, and then 0:07:05.045 --> 0:07:07.685 you're like oh. And then I went into Linda Bass, 0:07:07.685 --> 0:07:10.165 who was the costume designer. We're like, let's make this 0:07:10.205 --> 0:07:13.125 woman like above him, and she put me all in. 0:07:14.005 --> 0:07:16.325 She's was like Gucci and something. I was just all, 0:07:16.445 --> 0:07:19.165 you know, the all the bitch and black from the East. 0:07:19.245 --> 0:07:22.485 We went to the East and came in and I 0:07:22.605 --> 0:07:25.965 tell you, yeah, I got cast. And I contend to 0:07:26.005 --> 0:07:27.845 this day that had I had to go in and 0:07:27.925 --> 0:07:32.205 test for that that role with like the executives at 0:07:32.205 --> 0:07:35.725 ABC and with Patrick Dempsey, I wouldn't have gotten the 0:07:35.725 --> 0:07:41.565 part because I'm basically I'm Pat's height without healing on 0:07:42.165 --> 0:07:45.565 and then with heels I'm taller than him, and he 0:07:45.725 --> 0:07:47.845 had a bit of a he loves me, we love 0:07:47.885 --> 0:07:48.205 each other. 0:07:48.245 --> 0:07:49.365 But he was like what. 0:07:50.685 --> 0:07:51.285 Asking me? 0:07:51.725 --> 0:07:54.925 I was like, here, I am enjoying me. 0:07:55.445 --> 0:07:57.365 Can you dig a ditch for her so that she 0:07:57.485 --> 0:08:00.525 walks in the ditch beside me so she's sure of them? 0:08:02.165 --> 0:08:04.885 And Ellen? Then they looked so perfect together. They were 0:08:04.925 --> 0:08:07.605 like both like, she's a little pocket pal and yeah. 0:08:07.965 --> 0:08:10.765 I was like, Hi, I'm a giant dress from back East. 0:08:10.805 --> 0:08:13.725 I'm here to ruin your life. 0:08:13.125 --> 0:08:16.165 Because you've got a comedic background, which I don't know 0:08:16.165 --> 0:08:19.845 how many people know that I mean, but it knowing 0:08:19.845 --> 0:08:22.805 that about you and how it kind of informs your work, 0:08:23.805 --> 0:08:27.645 that you have a real physicality with your work, like 0:08:27.765 --> 0:08:31.925 even in Umbrella Academy, which is she's so arch and 0:08:33.605 --> 0:08:38.445 you know powerful. When you're approaching a character, are you 0:08:39.525 --> 0:08:46.365 working with a coach, are you working on the on 0:08:46.445 --> 0:08:49.245 the physicality at the time, Like when you're about to 0:08:49.325 --> 0:08:52.925 come in and you're you're going to be the mythical 0:08:53.605 --> 0:08:58.405 Addison suddenly appearing. Had you worked in your mind how 0:08:58.445 --> 0:09:01.165 that was going to feel for you or how that 0:09:01.245 --> 0:09:03.325 was going to look for you? 0:09:03.365 --> 0:09:04.845 No NDS. 0:09:04.885 --> 0:09:09.765 So here's the short answer is for Addison, I just 0:09:09.885 --> 0:09:11.965 it was all on the page and then I'd go 0:09:12.125 --> 0:09:15.405 and create with you know, the costume designers have always 0:09:15.445 --> 0:09:19.205 been super important to me. I think I had classic 0:09:19.245 --> 0:09:24.605 training of you know, Santai Slavskian method and emotional memory 0:09:24.645 --> 0:09:26.805 and sense memory and all this stuff, and then I 0:09:26.885 --> 0:09:29.165 have had so much train like then improv a lot 0:09:29.205 --> 0:09:31.365 of improva. We talked about comedy in Chicago, I did 0:09:31.405 --> 0:09:35.005 both straight theater and then comedy improv at Second City, 0:09:35.045 --> 0:09:38.285 at Improv Olympic, at the Annoyance Theater. Chicago was a 0:09:38.285 --> 0:09:42.245 great bastion of theater and comedy. I mean there was 0:09:42.285 --> 0:09:46.165 a mass exodus when I left Chicago in ninety five. 0:09:46.245 --> 0:09:49.685 It was like with Adam McKay and Will Ferrell was coming, 0:09:49.845 --> 0:09:53.965 Amy Poehler was in like co right, Cizens Jug They all, okay, 0:09:53.965 --> 0:09:57.965 there's this mass exodus, Matt Walsh, all these great comedic 0:09:58.565 --> 0:10:02.365 actors and writers coming to New York at the time. 0:10:02.565 --> 0:10:05.245 So anyway, that being said, I did a lot of 0:10:05.325 --> 0:10:08.845 comedia del arte too, in modern form with Tim Robbins 0:10:08.925 --> 0:10:12.285 Theater come the actors being in la and in Chicago 0:10:12.365 --> 0:10:15.485 Johnny Cusack's New Crime Company, and that was all about 0:10:15.525 --> 0:10:17.925 working on an image from the outside in as well. 0:10:18.405 --> 0:10:20.605 So I feel like once I have this now and 0:10:20.805 --> 0:10:22.365 I feel like at my age, there's a lot to 0:10:22.405 --> 0:10:26.485 cry about. There's a lot, there's a lot of I 0:10:26.485 --> 0:10:30.605 don't have to work on emotional moments, that's there. So 0:10:30.845 --> 0:10:33.445 all the stuff, unlike theater, it's like when you were 0:10:33.525 --> 0:10:35.405 seeing a player, like when can I get my shoes? 0:10:35.605 --> 0:10:37.085 Because it changes the way you walk? 0:10:37.245 --> 0:10:40.845 Yes, you know, And so I love costumes and hair 0:10:40.845 --> 0:10:44.045 and makeup, and so Linda Bass was like, first of 0:10:44.045 --> 0:10:47.685 all the script boom, and then secondly that you work 0:10:47.725 --> 0:10:50.285 with a costume. I've always been very collaborative and they 0:10:50.285 --> 0:10:53.205 have been collaborative because I love it. And so we 0:10:53.365 --> 0:10:55.045 came up and you have this armor and you have 0:10:55.085 --> 0:10:57.405 this I mean this crazy. I just remember that callar 0:10:57.565 --> 0:10:59.765 and you just walk a certain way in these heels, 0:10:59.925 --> 0:11:04.285 and so it was you just fall into it. For me, 0:11:04.365 --> 0:11:06.285 that's easy. And the same with the handler. That was 0:11:06.365 --> 0:11:10.645 really fun for Umbrella Academy because Steve Blackman, who used 0:11:10.685 --> 0:11:13.045 to run the writer's room on Private Practice and then 0:11:13.205 --> 0:11:18.285 also wrote for two or three seasons on Fargo, which 0:11:18.285 --> 0:11:22.365 I did season one of, he called me it's like, okay, 0:11:22.405 --> 0:11:24.805 we wrote this character. It was like, meant the handler. 0:11:24.925 --> 0:11:27.725 It's not the original graphic novel. 0:11:28.165 --> 0:11:30.525 I added it. It's like a John Hamm type. We're 0:11:30.565 --> 0:11:32.285 not going to get John. She's like, do you want 0:11:32.285 --> 0:11:32.605 to do it. 0:11:32.645 --> 0:11:35.365 I'm like that's a first and like, let me read it. 0:11:35.565 --> 0:11:37.325 And then I read it, I'm like, I love it. 0:11:37.405 --> 0:11:38.925 And because it was the same thing, it was like 0:11:39.045 --> 0:11:41.245 over the top, but it was like so funny and 0:11:41.405 --> 0:11:45.805 so weird and specific and so Steve Blackman that I 0:11:45.845 --> 0:11:48.645 was like, don't if you don't genderize it, don't change anything. 0:11:48.765 --> 0:11:50.285 And I want and I was like, do you have 0:11:50.405 --> 0:11:52.205 They had no money at that time, and again I 0:11:52.205 --> 0:11:55.165 was only supposed to do a few episodes, just like Addison, 0:11:55.645 --> 0:11:57.885 but they had to win a costume budget. 0:11:57.885 --> 0:11:58.845 I was like, great, let's go. 0:11:58.925 --> 0:12:02.165 Let's okay, and then we like then that was Christopher 0:12:02.205 --> 0:12:05.125 Harkin and the costume designer and we made these iconic, 0:12:05.325 --> 0:12:07.725 insane beautiful and the milliner's on. 0:12:07.685 --> 0:12:10.925 That project were sane, like the hats and all the things. 0:12:11.125 --> 0:12:13.045 Was like, so's fun. 0:12:15.725 --> 0:12:19.085 Coming up. Kate tells me more about her incredible career, 0:12:19.605 --> 0:12:23.285 how she's faced rejection, which is an inevitable part of 0:12:23.325 --> 0:12:27.005 being an actor and where the success has changed how 0:12:27.005 --> 0:12:37.085 she handles it over the years. Stay with us. I'm 0:12:37.125 --> 0:12:40.245 struck by as as we're having this conversation, how good 0:12:40.285 --> 0:12:43.845 you are at relationships and you know you're talking about 0:12:44.565 --> 0:12:47.205 don't you think like so you talk about these people 0:12:47.205 --> 0:12:50.845 who are I mean, everything seems self evident in retrospects. 0:12:50.925 --> 0:12:53.405 So you go Shonda Rhymes and when I know her 0:12:53.445 --> 0:12:57.165 as a legend, but she wasn't a legend then starting 0:12:57.205 --> 0:13:01.205 as h Yeah, and these are all all the people 0:13:01.245 --> 0:13:04.125 that you're mentioning then were starting out in Amy Poehler 0:13:04.205 --> 0:13:11.285 and that whole generation are your create relationships seem to 0:13:11.325 --> 0:13:14.485 have laid you through this thrade of one thing going 0:13:14.525 --> 0:13:17.325 to another, even getting this spin off to private practice. 0:13:17.365 --> 0:13:19.325 He's a great compliment to an actor. 0:13:19.645 --> 0:13:22.405 Oh yeah, it was massive. I was. It was. 0:13:22.525 --> 0:13:25.325 I was very surprised, and because I had done almost 0:13:25.605 --> 0:13:27.125 two and a half because I came at the end 0:13:27.165 --> 0:13:29.925 of season one and it was meant to only do 0:13:31.005 --> 0:13:34.245 five episodes, so I had already shot the five, but 0:13:34.325 --> 0:13:37.925 they aired it mid season, so that finale episode of 0:13:37.965 --> 0:13:41.365 season one was my first of the five. And then 0:13:41.765 --> 0:13:44.445 I had done another pilot for ABC, a half hour 0:13:44.485 --> 0:13:47.525 sitcom comedy that was meant to go and it didn't. 0:13:47.725 --> 0:13:49.485 I was like what oh, And then they asked me 0:13:49.525 --> 0:13:51.765 back to Grace to be a series regular. It's like yes, 0:13:52.245 --> 0:13:56.925 So that's often been the way for me. It's like, I, 0:13:56.965 --> 0:13:58.885 you know, would go in just as a guest and 0:13:58.925 --> 0:14:00.325 then guess what, I'm here to stay. 0:14:00.525 --> 0:14:05.885 Yeah, so getting rid of me. Yeah, but it is 0:14:05.965 --> 0:14:09.125 it's a great compliment, thank you, isn't it? And as 0:14:09.165 --> 0:14:13.165 an it feels really good because the nature of acting 0:14:13.285 --> 0:14:17.685 is often it's an insecure profession because you're dependent on 0:14:18.205 --> 0:14:20.805 writers and other people to create the work for you. 0:14:20.925 --> 0:14:22.885 So I think that a lot of actors inhibit this 0:14:23.005 --> 0:14:27.405 space of insecurity, and yet your choice. 0:14:27.045 --> 0:14:28.245 Is like masochistic. 0:14:28.285 --> 0:14:30.845 It's a very Yeah, you have to really have a 0:14:30.885 --> 0:14:34.245 lot of there's a little bit of a sociopathy to it. 0:14:34.285 --> 0:14:38.125 I think it's like you have to really believe in yourself. 0:14:38.165 --> 0:14:40.285 I'm almost I used to say that I would go 0:14:40.285 --> 0:14:43.005 into audition rooms and I would honestly that was weird. 0:14:43.045 --> 0:14:44.565 Where it's like something's weird with me. 0:14:44.805 --> 0:14:46.445 Where I'd sign in is when you have to go 0:14:46.485 --> 0:14:48.485 into audition and I'd be like, what are all these. 0:14:48.405 --> 0:14:49.965 Other people here for my part, do you know what 0:14:50.045 --> 0:14:53.365 I mean? It wasn't conscious, but I was literally kind 0:14:53.365 --> 0:14:53.925 of surprised. 0:14:53.925 --> 0:14:55.565 I'm like, no, I thought this was just for me, 0:14:56.165 --> 0:14:59.045 you know, and then you get so much rejection that 0:14:59.125 --> 0:15:02.525 you really have to love it and want it. And 0:15:02.565 --> 0:15:06.485 then thankfully, gratefully, I've at a place where I don't 0:15:07.445 --> 0:15:10.205 choose to say pick me. And you know what I mean, 0:15:10.285 --> 0:15:12.325 a lot of people I work with, people I've known, 0:15:12.525 --> 0:15:14.645 or people come to me and they're like, hey, we 0:15:14.685 --> 0:15:15.765 have this idea or we won't. 0:15:15.765 --> 0:15:17.845 You know, it's like this sounds fun, let's do it, 0:15:17.965 --> 0:15:18.165 you know. 0:15:18.325 --> 0:15:22.685 But yeah, but even in like in your private life 0:15:22.765 --> 0:15:26.725 to leave the United States and come to Australia and 0:15:26.765 --> 0:15:32.125 now you are officially, but that's a really bold choice. 0:15:32.885 --> 0:15:36.925 Yes, I mean that was crazy. I mean it's a 0:15:36.965 --> 0:15:41.445 massive geographic change. I came here for to visit and 0:15:41.845 --> 0:15:45.085 stayed for a relationship because I. 0:15:45.045 --> 0:15:49.245 Mean, I think only love, only love would engender. Is 0:15:49.445 --> 0:15:52.605 really what must have seemed to a lot of people 0:15:52.645 --> 0:15:53.885 like madness at the time. 0:15:54.645 --> 0:15:57.925 Yeah, and then the crazy timing of it, and you know, 0:15:57.925 --> 0:16:01.525 it was a guy here two days before the borders 0:16:01.605 --> 0:16:04.805 locked for COVID. I mean I got here on a Saturday, 0:16:05.565 --> 0:16:09.645 March fourteen of twenty twenty, and then really and then 0:16:09.685 --> 0:16:12.565 the borders lot they close the borders on Monday. I 0:16:12.645 --> 0:16:16.285 left New York City on Thursday, March twelfth, and I 0:16:16.325 --> 0:16:18.285 was literally calling on the way the airport, like is 0:16:18.325 --> 0:16:21.045 that plane actually taking off? Or if they shut down JFK. 0:16:21.245 --> 0:16:23.725 And it was just at the beginning of crazy COVID. 0:16:23.805 --> 0:16:26.725 So and then here I am almost five years later. 0:16:27.325 --> 0:16:28.845 Yeah, I know you loving it? 0:16:29.365 --> 0:16:30.605 Love it for me. 0:16:30.885 --> 0:16:34.325 I love the thing that's I mean, I have a 0:16:34.325 --> 0:16:39.645 great community of friends here now. But I also loved 0:16:39.725 --> 0:16:42.925 I just loved right at the beach in the Indian Ocean. 0:16:43.125 --> 0:16:45.885 I love the pace. I love that nature sort of 0:16:45.885 --> 0:16:49.245 eclipses everything. I like that I can kind of design 0:16:49.285 --> 0:16:51.685 my day somewhat by Oh what's the wind doing? 0:16:52.645 --> 0:16:52.845 You know? 0:16:54.205 --> 0:16:56.005 Oh I got a south West. I was an easterly. 0:16:56.165 --> 0:16:58.285 Oh well, cancel that, mediu, I'm going for a swim. 0:16:58.645 --> 0:17:02.965 But to some extent, but I also, yeah, I needed that, 0:17:03.125 --> 0:17:08.085 Like my business is such an artificial time frame and 0:17:08.165 --> 0:17:13.005 form and unhealthy way to work, largely like to get 0:17:13.125 --> 0:17:20.005 that Gray's Anatomy product that was seventeen hour days, ten 0:17:20.045 --> 0:17:24.725 months a year, yeah, plus press plus you know, and 0:17:24.925 --> 0:17:27.365 that's really great when you're younger, but that that can't 0:17:27.845 --> 0:17:31.605 it's not sustainable. And then even when it goes, you know, 0:17:31.725 --> 0:17:36.245 a thirteen hour day, it's just like it's it's taxing. 0:17:36.325 --> 0:17:38.245 I did that for the better part of a decade, 0:17:38.405 --> 0:17:41.925 nine years between private practice and grays and it's a lot. 0:17:42.085 --> 0:17:44.445 And you don't you get so used to not having 0:17:44.525 --> 0:17:47.965 any you're just scheduled so totally. I always call it 0:17:47.965 --> 0:17:50.125 like you're like a high end mental patient, like someone's 0:17:50.165 --> 0:17:53.445 tracking your everyone. Yeah, you're in the bathroom when you 0:17:53.565 --> 0:17:54.845 get dressed, Wendy. 0:17:54.605 --> 0:17:56.885 You've got a hand, you've got a handle. 0:17:57.525 --> 0:17:59.045 Yeah, no, wonder I'm like, take this. 0:17:59.285 --> 0:17:59.765 I can't. 0:18:00.725 --> 0:18:01.445 Yeah. 0:18:01.685 --> 0:18:05.405 And then also I imagine that when you have a profile, 0:18:06.205 --> 0:18:08.605 the price that you pay for having a profile when 0:18:08.645 --> 0:18:11.885 you're in this day is that you're always getting snapparazzied. 0:18:12.285 --> 0:18:16.485 Yeah, that culture has, uh, that certainly shifted a lot. 0:18:16.565 --> 0:18:17.885 I mean that was my whole life. 0:18:17.885 --> 0:18:19.485 I mean that was the other thing about Gray's We 0:18:19.605 --> 0:18:21.805 all sort of came up together, even though Patrick had 0:18:21.805 --> 0:18:24.965 had a career before, and you know, Jim Pickens had 0:18:25.005 --> 0:18:27.485 a career before, but none of us had that kind 0:18:27.485 --> 0:18:31.565 of exposure that Gray's provided, and then we were all 0:18:31.605 --> 0:18:32.325 like whoa. 0:18:32.885 --> 0:18:33.485 So that was the. 0:18:33.485 --> 0:18:37.325 Whole change everything. Yeah, having paparazzi follow you around and 0:18:38.245 --> 0:18:40.005 you know that was really crazy. 0:18:40.565 --> 0:18:43.125 I can you do an old striding accent now. 0:18:44.485 --> 0:18:45.365 Not? I don't know. 0:18:45.525 --> 0:18:45.965 I don't know. 0:18:46.165 --> 0:18:47.925 I can only did if it's like a characater. I 0:18:47.925 --> 0:18:50.005 don't think so. I don't even have the courage to 0:18:50.045 --> 0:18:53.325 say I can. I definitely didn't do it in optics 0:18:53.605 --> 0:18:56.525 I did it. I was like, I can't handle it, 0:18:56.605 --> 0:18:59.805 like I I it's so much pressure. It's easier to 0:18:59.845 --> 0:19:01.645 do an English accent for me than the roster I 0:19:01.645 --> 0:19:03.805 would have to have a I mean, I think I 0:19:03.805 --> 0:19:07.205 can imitate someone, but I can't, like I think, authentically 0:19:07.245 --> 0:19:09.845 do it. I think I have some total inflection at 0:19:09.845 --> 0:19:10.125 the end. 0:19:10.405 --> 0:19:11.525 It's going up now. 0:19:11.605 --> 0:19:16.325 Like or hey saying hey a lot or yaana like that. 0:19:17.365 --> 0:19:19.845 Definitely some expressions, but. 0:19:20.165 --> 0:19:23.245 Because you know, you know, it thrills us, struandings more 0:19:23.285 --> 0:19:25.685 than anything else when people mimic our accent. 0:19:25.885 --> 0:19:30.085 Oh no, okay, it's terrible, Like you can't and the 0:19:30.125 --> 0:19:32.565 thing is like Ausie's and I'm not blowing spoke. There's 0:19:32.605 --> 0:19:35.525 such I've said it before saying they're such great actors 0:19:35.605 --> 0:19:37.285 and I don't know if it's because they have to train. 0:19:38.365 --> 0:19:41.325 Like I'm impressed by everything here and it tells you 0:19:41.405 --> 0:19:44.365 kind of how American centric I was. I was like, 0:19:44.365 --> 0:19:46.205 how'd you guys get that? Like, how'd you get that 0:19:46.245 --> 0:19:48.485 good design? How did you get that great restaurant? Like 0:19:48.485 --> 0:19:51.005 how'd you get that? Like you have that because we 0:19:51.005 --> 0:19:55.085 don't even have that. So I feel like people here, 0:19:55.765 --> 0:19:59.725 whatever this island nation is, it is obviously so massive 0:19:59.725 --> 0:20:02.805 and expansive, and there's a massive myriad differences between Sydney 0:20:02.805 --> 0:20:06.005 and Brisbane and Melbourne and Perth. But that people to 0:20:06.125 --> 0:20:09.845 compete internationally have to be They just train and they're 0:20:09.925 --> 0:20:12.725 so good. So I all that is to say, in 0:20:12.925 --> 0:20:16.085 Australia doing an American accent is much better, I reckon 0:20:16.205 --> 0:20:17.685 than an America. 0:20:18.005 --> 0:20:21.125 Sure, sure, sure, but the time will come for you. 0:20:21.165 --> 0:20:22.765 So it's not enough which is. 0:20:22.725 --> 0:20:25.165 Your but it will come and I'll do it. 0:20:25.245 --> 0:20:25.445 Yeah. 0:20:26.245 --> 0:20:29.245 Well I can't wait to hear it. I mean, in fact, 0:20:29.605 --> 0:20:34.165 because now that you are around as well, in any incarnation, 0:20:34.325 --> 0:20:36.765 you wish to bring yourself to us. So you're you've 0:20:36.805 --> 0:20:41.165 got more Umbrella Academy coming Umbrella Academy. 0:20:41.765 --> 0:20:45.765 No, that's done. That, it's done, That series is done. 0:20:46.205 --> 0:20:49.205 I'm done pretty much with everything. Emily in Paris is 0:20:49.245 --> 0:20:51.245 going back to shoot their next season, but I'm finished 0:20:51.245 --> 0:20:52.765 with that unless they call me up and say they 0:20:52.805 --> 0:20:53.565 want Meddling back. 0:20:53.605 --> 0:20:54.085 But they have me. 0:20:54.525 --> 0:20:56.445 How herroneous to have to go to Paris. 0:20:56.725 --> 0:20:57.605 I mean, I love that. 0:20:57.725 --> 0:21:00.365 It's such a delay that again was supposed to be 0:21:00.445 --> 0:21:02.725 one episode and they're like, come back, and so that 0:21:02.885 --> 0:21:05.045 was great and I'm like, can I come back again? 0:21:05.125 --> 0:21:08.005 But They're like, we played out that storyline. 0:21:08.845 --> 0:21:12.285 Culture. That must have been very interesting working in Paris. Also, 0:21:12.365 --> 0:21:17.005 now you've now worked in Australia. What are the differences 0:21:17.045 --> 0:21:20.085