1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:16,514 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mom of Mea podcast. Whoever said 2 00:00:16,553 --> 00:00:19,714 Speaker 1: orange is a new pink with seriously deserved laurels for 3 00:00:19,834 --> 00:00:21,274 Speaker 1: spraying groundbreaking? 4 00:00:21,553 --> 00:00:23,354 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have to do it. 5 00:00:23,394 --> 00:00:24,634 Speaker 1: You live for fashion. 6 00:00:26,514 --> 00:00:28,914 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear the podcast. It 7 00:00:28,954 --> 00:00:31,754 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee 8 00:00:31,834 --> 00:00:34,473 Speaker 2: Campbell and my guest this week is Annalise Todd. Now, 9 00:00:34,513 --> 00:00:36,673 Speaker 2: if you don't know that name, you might know her 10 00:00:36,793 --> 00:00:39,513 Speaker 2: face because she is all over the Mama Mea website. 11 00:00:39,553 --> 00:00:42,873 Speaker 2: She's a lifestyle journalist here and she tries all the 12 00:00:42,913 --> 00:00:45,954 Speaker 2: wacky fashion trends that were all like wow, okay, I'd 13 00:00:45,994 --> 00:00:49,074 Speaker 2: like to see that in action. She's also the Kazilbs queen. 14 00:00:49,233 --> 00:00:51,953 Speaker 2: She is all about a bargain and is unashamed when 15 00:00:51,994 --> 00:00:54,554 Speaker 2: it comes to saving money. And she's a good shopper. 16 00:00:54,634 --> 00:00:56,354 Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask all about how she shops 17 00:00:56,354 --> 00:00:58,754 Speaker 2: on a budget, what she's learned about her style from 18 00:00:58,754 --> 00:01:01,914 Speaker 2: getting divorced, being a mom of boys, and everything in between. 19 00:01:02,154 --> 00:01:06,554 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Annalise Todd, Welcome to Nothing to Wear? Apparently, 20 00:01:06,634 --> 00:01:09,154 Speaker 2: welcome back. You filled in for me once when I 21 00:01:09,194 --> 00:01:09,554 Speaker 2: was away. 22 00:01:09,754 --> 00:01:11,834 Speaker 1: Yes, and that's the only reason because you were away, 23 00:01:11,874 --> 00:01:13,154 Speaker 1: because otherwise you wouldn't have let me. 24 00:01:13,234 --> 00:01:16,554 Speaker 2: That's absolutely right. I'm joking. You're a lifestyle journalist here 25 00:01:16,554 --> 00:01:19,074 Speaker 2: at Mamma Mia. You do lots of fun, crazy things 26 00:01:19,114 --> 00:01:20,434 Speaker 2: with fashion, and we're going to get into that a 27 00:01:20,474 --> 00:01:22,834 Speaker 2: little bit more later, but first, I want to know 28 00:01:22,914 --> 00:01:24,354 Speaker 2: what's happening in your algorithm. 29 00:01:24,394 --> 00:01:27,754 Speaker 1: You're big on TikTok. I don't know how why you're joking, 30 00:01:27,994 --> 00:01:31,514 Speaker 1: but TikTok Instagram? What are you seeing when you're scolling? Well, 31 00:01:32,114 --> 00:01:35,394 Speaker 1: I saw something that really irked me. Ooh, and I 32 00:01:35,434 --> 00:01:40,074 Speaker 1: really hate the trad wife movement. Ballerina Farm. Don't say 33 00:01:40,074 --> 00:01:43,034 Speaker 1: that about my friend. I just don't love anything that's 34 00:01:43,514 --> 00:01:46,834 Speaker 1: going back to women being domestic unless they want to 35 00:01:46,954 --> 00:01:49,074 Speaker 1: give some context for the listeners that might not be 36 00:01:49,114 --> 00:01:52,634 Speaker 1: across Ballerina Farm and this whole movement. Well, trad wife 37 00:01:52,674 --> 00:01:56,394 Speaker 1: movement is basically celebrating anything where you're at home and 38 00:01:56,434 --> 00:01:59,994 Speaker 1: you're baking sour dough from scratching an apron. It's all 39 00:02:00,034 --> 00:02:04,194 Speaker 1: about bringing it back to being domesticated and those traditional 40 00:02:04,394 --> 00:02:07,394 Speaker 1: trad wife rock yes, exactly, more about the role like 41 00:02:07,394 --> 00:02:10,034 Speaker 1: that that husband if it's a heeter sexual relationship is 42 00:02:10,114 --> 00:02:12,234 Speaker 1: kind of the boss and that you are submissive to 43 00:02:12,274 --> 00:02:14,874 Speaker 1: him and run the household as per his instructions. 44 00:02:14,954 --> 00:02:17,354 Speaker 2: Right yeah, okay, so why is that on your algorithm? 45 00:02:17,434 --> 00:02:18,754 Speaker 2: That's a bit like last year? 46 00:02:19,074 --> 00:02:22,514 Speaker 1: I know. But now, so we saw on the Mewmu 47 00:02:22,594 --> 00:02:27,073 Speaker 1: and Product Spring Summer runway they're actually bringing this into 48 00:02:28,074 --> 00:02:31,754 Speaker 1: the fashion zeitgeist. Okay, how in a very like camp 49 00:02:31,834 --> 00:02:36,074 Speaker 1: theatrical way, So like a big leather apron with ruffled 50 00:02:36,114 --> 00:02:39,953 Speaker 1: sleeves and like tea skirts, and I get like it's 51 00:02:39,994 --> 00:02:42,714 Speaker 1: meant to be ironic. Okay, they're not celebrating it, but 52 00:02:42,714 --> 00:02:45,793 Speaker 1: they're like, you know, we're going to be like tradwives 53 00:02:45,794 --> 00:02:48,234 Speaker 1: on the runway. Okay, and so that I guess they're 54 00:02:48,314 --> 00:02:50,274 Speaker 1: kind of taking the piss. But what I want to 55 00:02:50,314 --> 00:02:54,514 Speaker 1: ask you is, okay, you're hosting this now, well I 56 00:02:54,554 --> 00:02:58,394 Speaker 1: want your opinion. Okay, you are fashion queen. If that's 57 00:02:58,474 --> 00:03:00,754 Speaker 1: just on a runway, how does this translate to real life? Like? 58 00:03:00,794 --> 00:03:02,874 Speaker 1: Am I going to be wearing an apron to Friday 59 00:03:02,954 --> 00:03:05,314 Speaker 1: night drinks? Next? Like? Yeah, possibly? 60 00:03:05,354 --> 00:03:07,913 Speaker 2: I mean I think we see that kind a vintage 61 00:03:07,994 --> 00:03:10,874 Speaker 2: romantic you could call it housewife. I wouldn't, but we 62 00:03:10,914 --> 00:03:12,793 Speaker 2: see that trend come back every so often. I think 63 00:03:12,834 --> 00:03:15,754 Speaker 2: that that's probably a bit of a stretch. I don't 64 00:03:15,794 --> 00:03:18,233 Speaker 2: really see the through line there unless they've specifically said 65 00:03:18,234 --> 00:03:20,314 Speaker 2: that they were trying to highlight that and bearonic. But 66 00:03:20,354 --> 00:03:23,234 Speaker 2: I just think if you like a t skirt wear 67 00:03:23,314 --> 00:03:25,674 Speaker 2: it but you don't have to, then it doesn't say 68 00:03:25,674 --> 00:03:29,114 Speaker 2: that you endorse that kind of traditional relationship, and lots 69 00:03:29,114 --> 00:03:31,154 Speaker 2: of people do. I think you're reading into it too much. 70 00:03:31,194 --> 00:03:32,954 Speaker 2: It's just a cool apron. I mean, i'd wear a 71 00:03:33,034 --> 00:03:36,314 Speaker 2: leather apron, but not cooking. I'd wear it cooking, but 72 00:03:36,394 --> 00:03:37,914 Speaker 2: not out on Friday night drinks. 73 00:03:38,674 --> 00:03:43,474 Speaker 1: What else? Okay, So I love crocs, Yeah, I know, 74 00:03:43,634 --> 00:03:46,354 Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed. I have two pairs. I've got my 75 00:03:46,514 --> 00:03:49,634 Speaker 1: outdoor beach ones with my gibbets. Oh yes, I'm eight 76 00:03:49,754 --> 00:03:53,074 Speaker 1: years old. If it's are expensive, I know, yeah. And 77 00:03:53,114 --> 00:03:56,434 Speaker 1: then I've also got my lined winter ones that I 78 00:03:56,474 --> 00:03:58,994 Speaker 1: wear for dog walking in winter. Okay, they're blind. 79 00:03:59,434 --> 00:04:01,834 Speaker 2: So are they like wearing a bucket that it's lined, 80 00:04:01,834 --> 00:04:05,434 Speaker 2: because I've actually worn some that were surprisingly comfortable, because 81 00:04:05,434 --> 00:04:06,754 Speaker 2: I always sort of just looked like putting your foot 82 00:04:06,754 --> 00:04:09,554 Speaker 2: in a bucket and like it doesn't it look very comfortable. 83 00:04:09,634 --> 00:04:11,074 Speaker 1: Once I had to. I was at a friend's farm. 84 00:04:11,234 --> 00:04:13,434 Speaker 1: I had to grab my friends once from the front 85 00:04:13,434 --> 00:04:14,754 Speaker 1: door and run after my son. I was like, oh, 86 00:04:14,794 --> 00:04:17,314 Speaker 1: these are lovely. Yeah, they were quite comfortable, Lee Campbell 87 00:04:17,313 --> 00:04:20,513 Speaker 1: Ballerina farm. Yeah, it was a croc a farm. What 88 00:04:20,553 --> 00:04:22,393 Speaker 1: are you telling me about crocs? Okay, So they have 89 00:04:22,553 --> 00:04:26,433 Speaker 1: done I say co lab. Ironically, they've done a co 90 00:04:26,513 --> 00:04:30,073 Speaker 1: lab with Anderson Bell. Okay. So that's the South Korean 91 00:04:30,113 --> 00:04:35,313 Speaker 1: fashion powerhouse, and so they have reimagined it. It's now leather, 92 00:04:35,433 --> 00:04:38,394 Speaker 1: so it's not a bucket, it's a leather crock okay. 93 00:04:38,674 --> 00:04:41,273 Speaker 1: And theos in or a sandal closed in and they've 94 00:04:41,313 --> 00:04:43,873 Speaker 1: got one lace up version as well, and they've given 95 00:04:43,873 --> 00:04:47,113 Speaker 1: it this like punk inspired makeover. So okay, like that 96 00:04:47,234 --> 00:04:51,474 Speaker 1: so far heavy metal stards and like spikes, safety pin 97 00:04:51,553 --> 00:04:54,234 Speaker 1: gibbets okay and oh yeah cool? Okay, So you would 98 00:04:54,234 --> 00:04:54,674 Speaker 1: wear these? 99 00:04:54,753 --> 00:04:56,553 Speaker 2: Well, I need to see a reference, but so far, 100 00:04:56,674 --> 00:05:00,433 Speaker 2: yes I would because I want some too, obviously. Okay, Well, 101 00:05:00,474 --> 00:05:02,034 Speaker 2: you know, let's just wait a few months until they 102 00:05:02,034 --> 00:05:05,553 Speaker 2: trickle down, you know, the inspired by yeah price, you know. 103 00:05:05,794 --> 00:05:07,754 Speaker 1: Yeah, So one hundred and nine in nine dollars, but 104 00:05:07,794 --> 00:05:10,833 Speaker 1: I had two options on the Crocs website that but 105 00:05:10,914 --> 00:05:13,474 Speaker 1: I think that would look cool with like a wide 106 00:05:13,594 --> 00:05:17,553 Speaker 1: leg jeane or like maybe a cargo pant, or you 107 00:05:17,594 --> 00:05:19,474 Speaker 1: could like wear them with even just like a little 108 00:05:19,513 --> 00:05:22,834 Speaker 1: knitted dress. Okay, really, you know, mix it up how 109 00:05:22,993 --> 00:05:25,274 Speaker 1: you you would you? I know, I'm just really enjoying this. 110 00:05:25,633 --> 00:05:27,354 Speaker 1: Anything else before we get into who you are and 111 00:05:27,393 --> 00:05:29,713 Speaker 1: what you do and why here? Okay, So you know, 112 00:05:29,834 --> 00:05:34,674 Speaker 1: I love the Real Housewives of everything everywhere. I cannot 113 00:05:34,753 --> 00:05:36,753 Speaker 1: keep across it, but I like some of them. I 114 00:05:36,834 --> 00:05:41,393 Speaker 1: like the New York people, Jenna, Jana No So, Bethany Frankel, 115 00:05:41,474 --> 00:05:44,833 Speaker 1: so she Oh she's amazing. So she's a former Real 116 00:05:44,873 --> 00:05:47,313 Speaker 1: Housewife of New York. Okay, I love her. I follow her. 117 00:05:47,354 --> 00:05:51,794 Speaker 1: She'sios and I like anyway, keep going. So she was recently, 118 00:05:52,393 --> 00:05:55,473 Speaker 1: at age fifty five, the oldest model to walk the 119 00:05:55,553 --> 00:05:59,914 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated Swimsuit runway during Miami Swim Week. If I 120 00:06:00,034 --> 00:06:02,353 Speaker 1: looked like her, I'd be wearing a swimsuit right now. 121 00:06:02,433 --> 00:06:04,674 Speaker 1: So what's so special about that that she did it? 122 00:06:05,513 --> 00:06:07,593 Speaker 1: I think, well, it definitely it got a lot of 123 00:06:07,674 --> 00:06:10,433 Speaker 1: press and attender did But the way that she got away, 124 00:06:10,474 --> 00:06:13,433 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, she's fifty five, so brave. Like, so 125 00:06:13,753 --> 00:06:16,513 Speaker 1: there was a divided opinion. So the way that she 126 00:06:16,513 --> 00:06:18,993 Speaker 1: she kind of like strutted and danced, and like, what 127 00:06:19,073 --> 00:06:21,873 Speaker 1: does she meant to do, like do a model war Yeah, like, 128 00:06:21,953 --> 00:06:24,313 Speaker 1: of course you're going to make it silly and owner. 129 00:06:25,073 --> 00:06:27,873 Speaker 1: But so because she did like the silly fun stuff, 130 00:06:28,193 --> 00:06:30,234 Speaker 1: like a lot of people were like, Oh, that's cringe, 131 00:06:30,274 --> 00:06:33,353 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, how embarrassing. And then a lot of people 132 00:06:33,354 --> 00:06:35,713 Speaker 1: were like, well, no, like she's owning it. But it 133 00:06:35,753 --> 00:06:38,634 Speaker 1: really did divide people and it caused like a big uproar, 134 00:06:38,674 --> 00:06:41,194 Speaker 1: which is great for the brand because well, hello, we're 135 00:06:41,193 --> 00:06:43,073 Speaker 1: you talking about everyone's talking about it next time. 136 00:06:43,113 --> 00:06:45,034 Speaker 2: I think if her brand like that, your new Victoria's Secret. 137 00:06:45,073 --> 00:06:47,753 Speaker 2: Really want to just say something without saying anything at all, 138 00:06:47,794 --> 00:06:49,714 Speaker 2: Just send out a whole bunch of models that are 139 00:06:49,753 --> 00:06:52,273 Speaker 2: every different age, every different race, every different size, and 140 00:06:52,354 --> 00:06:55,594 Speaker 2: just don't say a thing. Yeah, don't say a thing like, wow, whoope, 141 00:06:55,633 --> 00:06:57,874 Speaker 2: they hired a fifty five year old to wear a swimsuit. 142 00:06:57,993 --> 00:06:59,593 Speaker 1: Yeah, but who also has the body of a twenty 143 00:06:59,594 --> 00:07:01,594 Speaker 1: five year old. Yeah, well that was very interesting. 144 00:07:01,633 --> 00:07:04,473 Speaker 2: Thanks for basically taking my job and hosting Welcome after 145 00:07:04,513 --> 00:07:06,473 Speaker 2: the break, Annalse is going to talk to us about 146 00:07:06,474 --> 00:07:07,354 Speaker 2: shopping on a buy check. 147 00:07:07,393 --> 00:07:08,993 Speaker 1: Kashi is the Kusi Lives queen. 148 00:07:12,953 --> 00:07:14,994 Speaker 2: So I want to set the scene for those that 149 00:07:15,114 --> 00:07:17,234 Speaker 2: may not follow your wonderful stories. 150 00:07:17,234 --> 00:07:19,234 Speaker 1: I'm a meme or what you do here? But who 151 00:07:19,274 --> 00:07:19,554 Speaker 1: are you? 152 00:07:19,674 --> 00:07:22,114 Speaker 2: Essentially? What do you do here? And why are you 153 00:07:22,154 --> 00:07:24,834 Speaker 2: on this fashion podcast? And I don't ask that ironically, 154 00:07:25,274 --> 00:07:25,594 Speaker 2: but you. 155 00:07:25,594 --> 00:07:29,514 Speaker 1: Do have some very interesting investigative journalism angles to bring 156 00:07:29,953 --> 00:07:32,273 Speaker 1: and thank you. I would say it is investigative journalists. 157 00:07:32,314 --> 00:07:33,514 Speaker 1: Oh it is caliber. 158 00:07:33,674 --> 00:07:36,034 Speaker 2: Yes, you have to wear the same pants for five 159 00:07:36,114 --> 00:07:37,714 Speaker 2: days in a row, and I hope you've washed them. 160 00:07:37,754 --> 00:07:41,954 Speaker 1: I do definitely wash them good. I love writing about 161 00:07:42,194 --> 00:07:44,754 Speaker 1: anything that's like a weird trend or anything that like 162 00:07:44,834 --> 00:07:48,153 Speaker 1: gen zs are obsessing about, or anything that's a bit polarizing, 163 00:07:48,714 --> 00:07:50,994 Speaker 1: and so whether it's even just like writing about it 164 00:07:51,034 --> 00:07:54,674 Speaker 1: and forming an opinion or going the real extra mile, 165 00:07:54,794 --> 00:07:57,713 Speaker 1: that extra level of public service and then wearing them 166 00:07:57,834 --> 00:08:00,994 Speaker 1: to work and then like seeing how you can style 167 00:08:01,034 --> 00:08:04,354 Speaker 1: it and seeing people's reactions and sharing that and like 168 00:08:04,393 --> 00:08:06,594 Speaker 1: the pros and cons, and it's obviously all done with 169 00:08:06,714 --> 00:08:09,833 Speaker 1: a lot of yes, and it is fun and it 170 00:08:09,953 --> 00:08:12,514 Speaker 1: is really fun and I feel like, you know. Then 171 00:08:12,514 --> 00:08:14,234 Speaker 1: I also have links of where people can buy them 172 00:08:14,274 --> 00:08:16,794 Speaker 1: if they would like these. Okay, you're wearing some stirrup 173 00:08:16,914 --> 00:08:19,034 Speaker 1: leggings today, so for those not watching and listening, they're 174 00:08:19,074 --> 00:08:21,833 Speaker 1: literally like a horse riding pant or a ski pants 175 00:08:22,034 --> 00:08:24,393 Speaker 1: or as well they're a bit thin to ski and 176 00:08:24,434 --> 00:08:27,714 Speaker 1: but yeah, the silhouette maybe. So that's your latest wear 177 00:08:27,754 --> 00:08:30,393 Speaker 1: at five different ways. What are some items that you've 178 00:08:30,434 --> 00:08:33,074 Speaker 1: worn in the past that you've then photographed and written about, 179 00:08:33,354 --> 00:08:35,154 Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna ask you what you've learned about that. 180 00:08:35,674 --> 00:08:37,834 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you asked. I would say, like, the 181 00:08:37,834 --> 00:08:40,234 Speaker 1: most comfortable one that I did was ug boots or 182 00:08:40,314 --> 00:08:44,074 Speaker 1: ug slippers I wore to the office, Yeah, every day, 183 00:08:44,634 --> 00:08:48,874 Speaker 1: different styles. I would say the least practical, arguably was 184 00:08:48,994 --> 00:08:53,274 Speaker 1: the footy boots. So my son's actual like soccer or 185 00:08:53,274 --> 00:08:56,434 Speaker 1: footy boots with cleats. Why well, because that was a 186 00:08:56,474 --> 00:09:00,074 Speaker 1: fashion trend in the Northern Hemisphere, the young cool kids 187 00:09:00,114 --> 00:09:03,234 Speaker 1: on TikTok photo it so naturally, so did I Okay, 188 00:09:03,594 --> 00:09:08,514 Speaker 1: anything else? Yes, the most ridiculou would have been the 189 00:09:08,514 --> 00:09:09,474 Speaker 1: one legged gene. 190 00:09:09,634 --> 00:09:11,833 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like last year, surely you only wore those 191 00:09:11,874 --> 00:09:12,674 Speaker 2: ones just once? 192 00:09:12,754 --> 00:09:15,354 Speaker 1: That was a one undone I couldn't do. I don't know. 193 00:09:15,394 --> 00:09:17,034 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure only did it one and done. It 194 00:09:17,074 --> 00:09:20,554 Speaker 1: was just even more than on the bush and from wow. 195 00:09:20,874 --> 00:09:22,634 Speaker 2: And that brings me to my next one, because you 196 00:09:22,674 --> 00:09:24,554 Speaker 2: are You've got a great sense of humor. You are 197 00:09:24,674 --> 00:09:26,314 Speaker 2: my friend outside of work, so I know that you 198 00:09:26,394 --> 00:09:28,034 Speaker 2: really don't take anything too seriously. 199 00:09:28,194 --> 00:09:30,194 Speaker 1: But how have you felt about trying things that you, 200 00:09:30,274 --> 00:09:33,114 Speaker 1: probably not in this job, wouldn't have worn, particularly for 201 00:09:33,154 --> 00:09:34,994 Speaker 1: five days a week. And what has it taught you 202 00:09:35,034 --> 00:09:38,314 Speaker 1: about getting dressed for regular people that I maybe have 203 00:09:38,394 --> 00:09:40,114 Speaker 1: a certain style, don't know their style, but they're a 204 00:09:40,154 --> 00:09:43,434 Speaker 1: little bit daunted by the thought of trying other things 205 00:09:43,514 --> 00:09:46,754 Speaker 1: other than what feels really safe. I find it so fun, 206 00:09:47,154 --> 00:09:50,154 Speaker 1: like when I'm doing these silly challenges, like I literally 207 00:09:50,434 --> 00:09:52,914 Speaker 1: the night before would be like, yes, okay, what are 208 00:09:52,914 --> 00:09:55,194 Speaker 1: we wearing tomorrow? Like I just get so into it. 209 00:09:55,234 --> 00:09:57,474 Speaker 1: And it's probably like a bit of an ADHD kind 210 00:09:57,514 --> 00:09:59,994 Speaker 1: of like super focused. Yes, it just takes over my 211 00:10:00,114 --> 00:10:02,514 Speaker 1: entire week and my mental capacity, but I love it, 212 00:10:02,834 --> 00:10:05,114 Speaker 1: like it's dope to mean and I love even like 213 00:10:05,554 --> 00:10:07,914 Speaker 1: particularly with the stirrup leggings like the gen Z's. I've 214 00:10:07,954 --> 00:10:10,034 Speaker 1: never been so trolled by them, and they do like 215 00:10:10,074 --> 00:10:12,154 Speaker 1: to troll me because I am in my forties yea, 216 00:10:12,434 --> 00:10:15,954 Speaker 1: even though it doesn't bother you at all, No, honestly, no, Like, 217 00:10:16,154 --> 00:10:17,754 Speaker 1: I actually just find it funny. 218 00:10:18,154 --> 00:10:21,434 Speaker 2: Your life before this role, what was your style? How 219 00:10:21,434 --> 00:10:22,914 Speaker 2: did you get dressed? How did you shop? 220 00:10:22,954 --> 00:10:27,114 Speaker 1: Were you experimental? It definitely took a back seat. I 221 00:10:27,154 --> 00:10:29,914 Speaker 1: am a single mum now, but I wasn't a single 222 00:10:29,994 --> 00:10:34,234 Speaker 1: mum then. And when I got this role, I believe 223 00:10:34,314 --> 00:10:37,914 Speaker 1: we'd not We hadn't been out of lockdown that long 224 00:10:38,074 --> 00:10:40,594 Speaker 1: when I started, so we lost a year really in 225 00:10:40,634 --> 00:10:43,953 Speaker 1: fashion because everyone was wearing leggings, yes literally. So then 226 00:10:43,994 --> 00:10:46,594 Speaker 1: when I came out of that and then started at 227 00:10:46,674 --> 00:10:50,554 Speaker 1: Mumma Mia, I was just at the end of my 228 00:10:50,554 --> 00:10:53,354 Speaker 1: marriage and then my marriage, so it was it like 229 00:10:53,554 --> 00:10:56,754 Speaker 1: a huge transition. So I would say it really wasn't 230 00:10:56,754 --> 00:10:59,354 Speaker 1: a priority and I didn't put a lot of thought 231 00:10:59,594 --> 00:11:04,154 Speaker 1: and care into it. And I've learned so much doing 232 00:11:04,194 --> 00:11:06,434 Speaker 1: this job. But then I've also found like such a 233 00:11:06,474 --> 00:11:06,994 Speaker 1: passion for it. 234 00:11:07,674 --> 00:11:09,434 Speaker 2: And you've got two sons as well, which I think 235 00:11:09,474 --> 00:11:11,994 Speaker 2: you know, can't be underestimated as to what your weekends 236 00:11:12,034 --> 00:11:14,554 Speaker 2: can look like, which is literally just you know, uber 237 00:11:14,634 --> 00:11:17,434 Speaker 2: mum or sport. You know, it's sometimes it's just like 238 00:11:17,474 --> 00:11:18,754 Speaker 2: throw on water's even warm because. 239 00:11:18,554 --> 00:11:20,754 Speaker 1: I've got to watch sport in the rain literally, And 240 00:11:20,794 --> 00:11:23,754 Speaker 1: like skate parks, they're very active. Oh yeah, they're like 241 00:11:24,114 --> 00:11:26,674 Speaker 1: if I'm in mum mode, it's like a fashion trackie 242 00:11:26,714 --> 00:11:29,514 Speaker 1: a legging, maybe a gene if we go to the movies. 243 00:11:29,634 --> 00:11:32,314 Speaker 1: But it's just very casual, very comfortable, very practical. 244 00:11:32,394 --> 00:11:34,274 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to ask you about your favorite brands 245 00:11:34,314 --> 00:11:36,634 Speaker 2: and how you shop like a Kazi Lives queen. That's 246 00:11:36,634 --> 00:11:38,354 Speaker 2: hard to say in a minute, but I did want 247 00:11:38,354 --> 00:11:40,434 Speaker 2: to touch on that because you're an interesting person to 248 00:11:40,474 --> 00:11:41,834 Speaker 2: work with because you wear many hats. 249 00:11:42,114 --> 00:11:43,274 Speaker 1: You know, you are a single mom. 250 00:11:43,314 --> 00:11:44,994 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna reveal too much about your private life, 251 00:11:45,034 --> 00:11:46,953 Speaker 2: but you might go on a date and then you 252 00:11:47,034 --> 00:11:48,354 Speaker 2: might go pick up your sons and go to the 253 00:11:48,394 --> 00:11:50,674 Speaker 2: skate park, and then you're going to a movie premiere 254 00:11:50,714 --> 00:11:51,594 Speaker 2: for work the next night. 255 00:11:51,714 --> 00:11:54,154 Speaker 1: So how do you wear all these fashion hats? 256 00:11:54,194 --> 00:11:56,474 Speaker 2: Do you try and buy and wear things you can 257 00:11:56,514 --> 00:11:59,474 Speaker 2: wear kind of almost everywhere, or do you have sort 258 00:11:59,474 --> 00:12:02,554 Speaker 2: of different personas in terms of fashion depending on who 259 00:12:02,554 --> 00:12:02,794 Speaker 2: you are. 260 00:12:03,034 --> 00:12:07,474 Speaker 1: It's probably more the different personas. Anything kind of fancy 261 00:12:07,594 --> 00:12:10,034 Speaker 1: that I would wear to work or an event, I'm 262 00:12:10,074 --> 00:12:12,594 Speaker 1: not going to be wearing around my kids. I just wouldn't. 263 00:12:13,114 --> 00:12:15,354 Speaker 1: So I would say there's like a couple of crossovers, 264 00:12:15,394 --> 00:12:17,714 Speaker 1: like jeans are such a staple for me. I love 265 00:12:17,794 --> 00:12:20,994 Speaker 1: everything denim, and like a nice knit I would wear 266 00:12:21,034 --> 00:12:23,074 Speaker 1: in both lives. When I say both, because it is 267 00:12:23,194 --> 00:12:25,274 Speaker 1: it does feel like a double life sometimes when you 268 00:12:25,514 --> 00:12:28,114 Speaker 1: are a single parent. But yeah, I would say it's 269 00:12:28,114 --> 00:12:29,274 Speaker 1: pretty much church and state. 270 00:12:29,474 --> 00:12:32,234 Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned your divorced and obviously I can imagine 271 00:12:32,234 --> 00:12:34,554 Speaker 2: that's not the funnest road to go down. So this 272 00:12:34,674 --> 00:12:36,834 Speaker 2: is a fashion podcast, but I'm sorry if that was 273 00:12:36,874 --> 00:12:40,234 Speaker 2: really hard. But how did divorce affect your I guess 274 00:12:40,394 --> 00:12:43,474 Speaker 2: your confidence and then how that translated to your parents 275 00:12:43,514 --> 00:12:45,354 Speaker 2: and getting dressed and your style. 276 00:12:45,514 --> 00:12:48,714 Speaker 1: It has changed a lot, definitely in the last four years, 277 00:12:48,754 --> 00:12:51,514 Speaker 1: because yeah it's been nearly four years. People talk about 278 00:12:51,514 --> 00:12:54,634 Speaker 1: the divorce glow up. You know, it's like the buzzword. 279 00:12:54,634 --> 00:12:58,594 Speaker 1: It's the thing. I think people think it's because of 280 00:12:59,194 --> 00:13:01,634 Speaker 1: that you're suddenly single and you're wanting to look good 281 00:13:01,634 --> 00:13:03,914 Speaker 1: for the male gaze. But it's got nothing to do 282 00:13:03,954 --> 00:13:06,594 Speaker 1: with that at all. It's more about like you've come 283 00:13:06,634 --> 00:13:09,394 Speaker 1: out of something so hard and you can slap on 284 00:13:09,474 --> 00:13:13,114 Speaker 1: a conscious uncoupling like brain label on it, but it's 285 00:13:13,234 --> 00:13:16,914 Speaker 1: universally awful for everyone. And so when you come out 286 00:13:16,914 --> 00:13:20,394 Speaker 1: of that, you are a different person. And so all 287 00:13:20,394 --> 00:13:24,114 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you have more time to yourself. You 288 00:13:24,194 --> 00:13:26,634 Speaker 1: have like time without your children. If you share custody, 289 00:13:26,634 --> 00:13:29,874 Speaker 1: you're going out more, and so you have these new 290 00:13:30,434 --> 00:13:33,114 Speaker 1: versions of yourself that you actually have the time to 291 00:13:33,234 --> 00:13:36,874 Speaker 1: explore it. But also, after a while and the dust settles, 292 00:13:36,954 --> 00:13:40,434 Speaker 1: you're happy, and so you are putting time into your 293 00:13:40,754 --> 00:13:44,194 Speaker 1: skin care and self care, and you feel really good 294 00:13:44,354 --> 00:13:46,594 Speaker 1: when you put a great outfit on and walk out 295 00:13:46,594 --> 00:13:48,874 Speaker 1: the door. So I think the secret source to the 296 00:13:48,914 --> 00:13:52,194 Speaker 1: divorce glow is that it comes from within because you're happy, 297 00:13:52,714 --> 00:13:56,194 Speaker 1: and then you're taking care of yourself for you, and 298 00:13:56,634 --> 00:13:59,074 Speaker 1: that's mirrored on the outside. I actually really love that. 299 00:13:59,114 --> 00:14:00,713 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, because you come out of something that 300 00:14:00,794 --> 00:14:03,554 Speaker 2: you know obviously wasn't ideal, and then it's like, who 301 00:14:03,594 --> 00:14:06,514 Speaker 2: am I now? Because here I'm here, and then you 302 00:14:06,554 --> 00:14:08,914 Speaker 2: get to like dress for her. I'm not saying that 303 00:14:08,954 --> 00:14:10,674 Speaker 2: you dress for your husband. I don't know your situation, 304 00:14:10,714 --> 00:14:13,194 Speaker 2: but it's like, okay, wow, she's new. You can't get 305 00:14:13,194 --> 00:14:13,914 Speaker 2: to reinvent yourself. 306 00:14:13,994 --> 00:14:15,594 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a new. Tell me you just sloth 307 00:14:15,674 --> 00:14:17,354 Speaker 1: around and eate ice cream and stuff, you know, like 308 00:14:17,434 --> 00:14:20,434 Speaker 1: everyone when they go through hard stuff. I do that. Gosh, yes, 309 00:14:20,594 --> 00:14:24,194 Speaker 1: I'm talking once. Once the phoenix has risen from the ashes. 310 00:14:25,514 --> 00:14:26,074 Speaker 1: I love that. 311 00:14:26,474 --> 00:14:28,754 Speaker 2: So, as you mentioned, you're in your forties, You've got 312 00:14:28,754 --> 00:14:31,154 Speaker 2: many hats to wear. Where do you shop? How do 313 00:14:31,194 --> 00:14:33,794 Speaker 2: you shop? Do you shop fast fashion? How do you 314 00:14:33,794 --> 00:14:35,474 Speaker 2: feel about fast fashion? I know I'm asking you all 315 00:14:35,514 --> 00:14:38,074 Speaker 2: the questions at once, but just feel the beans well. 316 00:14:38,154 --> 00:14:41,394 Speaker 1: I truly believe that you shouldn't have to spend a 317 00:14:41,434 --> 00:14:43,554 Speaker 1: lot of money to be able to invest in a 318 00:14:43,554 --> 00:14:47,754 Speaker 1: few new pieces to update your wardrobe coming into seasons 319 00:14:47,794 --> 00:14:49,914 Speaker 1: so that you feel good. Like that shouldn't just be 320 00:14:49,954 --> 00:14:52,834 Speaker 1: for people that have money. So I really love cozy 321 00:14:52,914 --> 00:14:56,634 Speaker 1: lives shopping. I love finding like beautiful things where you 322 00:14:56,674 --> 00:14:59,274 Speaker 1: wear that and everyone goes, oh my god, where is 323 00:14:59,274 --> 00:15:01,874 Speaker 1: that from? And you're like Target, and I do say 324 00:15:01,914 --> 00:15:03,994 Speaker 1: it and it was thirty nine dollars and I say 325 00:15:04,034 --> 00:15:06,194 Speaker 1: it with pride, and I then will write about it 326 00:15:06,234 --> 00:15:08,714 Speaker 1: for Mamma mea and tell people, look how awesome this 327 00:15:08,754 --> 00:15:11,354 Speaker 1: stuff is. You know, you can actually get things that 328 00:15:11,394 --> 00:15:14,954 Speaker 1: are accessible and feel good as well. So obviously we've 329 00:15:14,994 --> 00:15:17,474 Speaker 1: got our three like big hitters, which is like our 330 00:15:17,514 --> 00:15:21,754 Speaker 1: big w target Kmart. They have elevated their women's range 331 00:15:21,794 --> 00:15:23,394 Speaker 1: that used to just be like you know, Toys and 332 00:15:23,474 --> 00:15:26,874 Speaker 1: Home where the women's range they now have their Australian 333 00:15:27,194 --> 00:15:30,114 Speaker 1: based design team and trend four all all of them do. 334 00:15:30,474 --> 00:15:32,034 Speaker 2: I feel like one went first and then they're like, 335 00:15:32,114 --> 00:15:33,394 Speaker 2: oh my god, we've got a level up. 336 00:15:33,634 --> 00:15:37,354 Speaker 1: They're outawear for winter this season, the jackets and the 337 00:15:37,394 --> 00:15:40,834 Speaker 1: beautiful knits. I know I'm sound sponsored, but I know 338 00:15:40,914 --> 00:15:43,114 Speaker 1: because they see you every day wearing a version of 339 00:15:43,234 --> 00:15:46,114 Speaker 1: I literally am and I'm talking about all three. So 340 00:15:46,154 --> 00:15:48,874 Speaker 1: then we've got those guys, love them and you can 341 00:15:48,914 --> 00:15:53,074 Speaker 1: really again just play around and build capsules affordably. And 342 00:15:53,114 --> 00:15:55,474 Speaker 1: then of course I love the Iconic. You can get 343 00:15:55,554 --> 00:15:58,354 Speaker 1: literally everything that you ever need off the Iconic, but 344 00:15:58,394 --> 00:16:00,994 Speaker 1: they also have great sales and you know me, I like, 345 00:16:01,074 --> 00:16:03,554 Speaker 1: I like a bargain you do, so they've got great sales. 346 00:16:03,554 --> 00:16:06,354 Speaker 1: But my fave brands are at Moss and here at 347 00:16:06,434 --> 00:16:10,714 Speaker 1: Daisy on the iconic. I love me a Zara, I 348 00:16:10,794 --> 00:16:13,554 Speaker 1: love a Zara and H and M. They actually do 349 00:16:13,674 --> 00:16:17,634 Speaker 1: really nice like fashion pieces, yes, I agree, and really affordable. 350 00:16:17,754 --> 00:16:21,394 Speaker 1: I do love Asos and Uniclo like just great for basics. 351 00:16:21,554 --> 00:16:23,794 Speaker 2: I just got back into Aesos again recently because I 352 00:16:24,034 --> 00:16:26,434 Speaker 2: mean I've always liked it, but you know, time and 353 00:16:26,514 --> 00:16:28,354 Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, and I forgot how big 354 00:16:28,434 --> 00:16:30,634 Speaker 2: their range is too, and that they're often on the 355 00:16:30,674 --> 00:16:33,314 Speaker 2: other the seasons are opposite, so there's summer goes on 356 00:16:33,314 --> 00:16:35,754 Speaker 2: sale when we want to buy summer. It's so good. 357 00:16:36,114 --> 00:16:39,234 Speaker 2: Do you shop irl or online? Mostly mostly online? 358 00:16:39,274 --> 00:16:42,714 Speaker 1: Why? I just don't think I've got the patience to 359 00:16:42,754 --> 00:16:45,754 Speaker 1: go to the shops. I just don't. Do you have 360 00:16:45,834 --> 00:16:48,114 Speaker 1: success with that or are you a returner? No, it's 361 00:16:48,154 --> 00:16:51,154 Speaker 1: pretty successful. And then like if I don't like something, 362 00:16:51,154 --> 00:16:52,914 Speaker 1: I'll probably just give it away to a friend or 363 00:16:52,954 --> 00:16:54,954 Speaker 1: something rather than go to the post off. Yeah, you 364 00:16:54,994 --> 00:16:57,154 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Sometimes it's too hard. Why are 365 00:16:57,154 --> 00:16:57,754 Speaker 1: you so good at it? 366 00:16:57,754 --> 00:16:59,794 Speaker 2: Them? What are you looking at? Do you look at composition. 367 00:16:59,954 --> 00:17:01,994 Speaker 2: Do you look at the height of the model, the 368 00:17:02,034 --> 00:17:03,354 Speaker 2: model size, or you just vibes? 369 00:17:03,594 --> 00:17:06,234 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely I look at the models like height 370 00:17:06,714 --> 00:17:09,594 Speaker 1: and then the size that she's wearing, and I would think, okay, well, what. 371 00:17:09,554 --> 00:17:11,554 Speaker 2: Is that going to look like on me? And I 372 00:17:11,594 --> 00:17:14,154 Speaker 2: guess you were saying your favorite brands. Do you generally 373 00:17:14,154 --> 00:17:17,154 Speaker 2: stick to what you know so you know what that brand, well, 374 00:17:17,194 --> 00:17:19,033 Speaker 2: you know what's going to arrive or are you experimental 375 00:17:19,074 --> 00:17:21,314 Speaker 2: with other brands that you know pop up on your feet. 376 00:17:21,514 --> 00:17:24,834 Speaker 1: I would say it's a mixture. It's more like vibes, Okay, 377 00:17:24,874 --> 00:17:27,914 Speaker 1: I go on vibes. Yeah, okay, you know one of 378 00:17:27,954 --> 00:17:31,234 Speaker 1: my ones that I've recently got back into, which I 379 00:17:31,274 --> 00:17:33,794 Speaker 1: feel like they used to be more. You would think 380 00:17:33,834 --> 00:17:36,194 Speaker 1: of them as more of like a mature label to Cuba, 381 00:17:36,394 --> 00:17:38,154 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love Decuba. Also, you and I 382 00:17:38,194 --> 00:17:40,434 Speaker 1: are mature in our fourties, I know, but remember I'm 383 00:17:40,434 --> 00:17:43,553 Speaker 1: mentally twenty eight. Me too. This stuff is gorgeous, like 384 00:17:43,634 --> 00:17:46,354 Speaker 1: their sets and their denim, and I just think this 385 00:17:46,474 --> 00:17:49,154 Speaker 1: stuff is beautiful, like I love everything basically. 386 00:17:49,234 --> 00:17:50,434 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've had a bit of a globe. I feel 387 00:17:50,434 --> 00:17:51,994 Speaker 2: like their prices went up a teenat bit, but so 388 00:17:52,074 --> 00:17:54,514 Speaker 2: did this style? Yeah, anywhere else, I. 389 00:17:54,474 --> 00:17:57,074 Speaker 1: Mean this is on the more like we're going up 390 00:17:57,114 --> 00:18:00,634 Speaker 1: in the scale Dish. I mean it's it's iconic. You 391 00:18:00,634 --> 00:18:03,594 Speaker 1: can get so sales. Dish has an amazing sale all 392 00:18:03,634 --> 00:18:04,034 Speaker 1: the time. 393 00:18:04,154 --> 00:18:06,274 Speaker 2: Like I don't know how well this performs for their 394 00:18:06,354 --> 00:18:08,394 Speaker 2: business structure or whatever, but I've mean they're killing it. 395 00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:10,714 Speaker 2: But Dish is Dish, like it always looks like Dish, 396 00:18:10,754 --> 00:18:12,353 Speaker 2: Like I got old Dish and it's not like, oh, 397 00:18:12,354 --> 00:18:13,194 Speaker 2: that's last season. 398 00:18:13,194 --> 00:18:15,314 Speaker 1: So I generally just go straight to the sale town. Yeah, 399 00:18:15,354 --> 00:18:17,874 Speaker 1: I always go to the sale tab first, and so 400 00:18:17,914 --> 00:18:20,513 Speaker 1: you can get really beautiful pieces. I don't believe that 401 00:18:20,594 --> 00:18:23,474 Speaker 1: you should have to spend a lot of money to 402 00:18:23,554 --> 00:18:24,354 Speaker 1: look and feel good. 403 00:18:24,514 --> 00:18:28,114 Speaker 2: I just don't agreed. I love those high street brands. 404 00:18:28,154 --> 00:18:29,994 Speaker 2: I don't ever allowed to say high street here because 405 00:18:29,994 --> 00:18:31,434 Speaker 2: we don't have a high street like London. 406 00:18:31,474 --> 00:18:32,754 Speaker 1: I think, oh yeah, me too. 407 00:18:32,874 --> 00:18:36,154 Speaker 2: But any that are kind of not quite as globally 408 00:18:36,194 --> 00:18:40,634 Speaker 2: well known that you've discovered in your investigative journalism. 409 00:18:40,034 --> 00:18:43,793 Speaker 1: Yes, my thorough investave journalism. I love the commonry. Oh 410 00:18:43,874 --> 00:18:46,714 Speaker 1: my god, me too. And they're great especially for like 411 00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:48,314 Speaker 1: corporate girlies as well. 412 00:18:48,434 --> 00:18:51,114 Speaker 2: Their footwear is ful. I wish they would do more footwear. 413 00:18:51,314 --> 00:18:52,994 Speaker 2: They've only done well. I look the other day, they've 414 00:18:52,994 --> 00:18:55,114 Speaker 2: done a couple of styles this season. But I bought 415 00:18:55,114 --> 00:18:58,234 Speaker 2: some little baby cute slingbacks leather. I don't know why 416 00:18:58,234 --> 00:19:00,234 Speaker 2: I said that, little baby ones. They are the most 417 00:19:00,234 --> 00:19:02,114 Speaker 2: comfortable heels I've ever worn, and I've got my a 418 00:19:02,114 --> 00:19:02,834 Speaker 2: few seasons ago. 419 00:19:03,434 --> 00:19:08,034 Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else, fate the labels. That one really really cool. 420 00:19:08,074 --> 00:19:11,714 Speaker 1: They've got such a great range and their stuff is 421 00:19:11,754 --> 00:19:13,794 Speaker 1: just very different. So you would go there and you'd 422 00:19:13,794 --> 00:19:14,793 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I love that. 423 00:19:14,834 --> 00:19:17,274 Speaker 2: It doesn't look like everywhere else is what they've got exactly. 424 00:19:17,314 --> 00:19:19,554 Speaker 2: You're going somewhere fancy. But you're the Cozi Lives queen. 425 00:19:19,594 --> 00:19:20,714 Speaker 2: We don't want to spend a lot of money. 426 00:19:20,754 --> 00:19:23,834 Speaker 1: What do you do? Okay, well, I've got a gym 427 00:19:23,914 --> 00:19:26,434 Speaker 1: by the name of Pedal and Pup. Oh yes, so 428 00:19:26,554 --> 00:19:28,354 Speaker 1: I used to shot Pedal and Pup all the time. 429 00:19:28,634 --> 00:19:28,994 Speaker 2: I do. 430 00:19:29,114 --> 00:19:31,474 Speaker 1: Because there's stuff they've got, like if you've got a 431 00:19:31,474 --> 00:19:34,994 Speaker 1: wedding or like an event, their dresses are around ninety 432 00:19:35,034 --> 00:19:38,274 Speaker 1: dollars and they've got so much stuff to choose from. 433 00:19:38,354 --> 00:19:39,834 Speaker 1: I need to go back on and have a look. Yeah, 434 00:19:39,834 --> 00:19:43,354 Speaker 1: they're also grateful, like vacation wardrobe, if you just want 435 00:19:43,354 --> 00:19:45,914 Speaker 1: a couple of items to like just top up your 436 00:19:46,194 --> 00:19:49,394 Speaker 1: vacation wardrobe, they often will do like sets and sell 437 00:19:49,434 --> 00:19:50,434 Speaker 1: them as a set. Yeah. 438 00:19:50,474 --> 00:19:52,154 Speaker 2: Like I like that because then you're like, oh my god, 439 00:19:52,194 --> 00:19:54,114 Speaker 2: it's two for one, Like I can mix and match. 440 00:19:54,114 --> 00:19:58,234 Speaker 1: It's a bargain. Yeah. Accessories, are we an accessories girl? Yes? 441 00:19:58,394 --> 00:20:02,954 Speaker 1: Pared back, as you know, I have a few. Where 442 00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:05,354 Speaker 1: do we get those from? Well? I love arms of Eve. 443 00:20:05,994 --> 00:20:08,994 Speaker 1: They're like, honestly all this stuff. I just love it because, 444 00:20:08,994 --> 00:20:10,674 Speaker 1: as you can imagine, I wear it in the shower, 445 00:20:10,794 --> 00:20:13,154 Speaker 1: I wear it in chlorine. Yeah. See, I'm not taking 446 00:20:13,154 --> 00:20:16,114 Speaker 1: stuff I won't take off, and so it stays like 447 00:20:16,234 --> 00:20:20,634 Speaker 1: beautifully intact. And again it's like around like ninety to 448 00:20:20,634 --> 00:20:22,674 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty dollars price point, and you can 449 00:20:22,714 --> 00:20:25,234 Speaker 1: do stacking, and again it's affordable. You need to check 450 00:20:25,234 --> 00:20:25,794 Speaker 1: out Levisa. 451 00:20:25,794 --> 00:20:27,634 Speaker 2: I'm so back in love with Levisa because they have 452 00:20:27,634 --> 00:20:29,954 Speaker 2: a whole waterproof range and it's phenomen I. 453 00:20:29,834 --> 00:20:31,714 Speaker 1: Was gonna say, because can I wear it in the showers? 454 00:20:31,794 --> 00:20:33,794 Speaker 2: Yes, I only click on the waterproof tab. I've got 455 00:20:33,794 --> 00:20:35,434 Speaker 2: so many of their amazing pieces. I don't think I'm 456 00:20:35,434 --> 00:20:37,834 Speaker 2: wearing any of them today, but I'm going to do that. Yes, 457 00:20:37,874 --> 00:20:39,353 Speaker 2: well you can just come and borrow mine as you 458 00:20:39,434 --> 00:20:41,513 Speaker 2: like to do. Before we get into bootie and budget tho, 459 00:20:41,514 --> 00:20:42,793 Speaker 2: I'm going to put you on the spot. Can you 460 00:20:42,834 --> 00:20:46,154 Speaker 2: describe your style as you are now? Not today, but 461 00:20:46,514 --> 00:20:47,714 Speaker 2: the woman in your life right now? 462 00:20:48,114 --> 00:20:50,074 Speaker 1: I was in not today what I'm wearing, but just 463 00:20:50,114 --> 00:20:52,634 Speaker 1: see who you are, vibes where you're out in your life. 464 00:20:52,714 --> 00:20:54,313 Speaker 1: How does she like to dress? How does she like 465 00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:57,634 Speaker 1: to feel in her clothes? Okay, I definitely I have 466 00:20:57,674 --> 00:21:01,593 Speaker 1: to say comfortable because I'm not toddling around and shoes 467 00:21:01,594 --> 00:21:04,794 Speaker 1: that hurt. I'm not gonna get like you like, I 468 00:21:04,914 --> 00:21:07,714 Speaker 1: need to be comfortable. I am in my four even 469 00:21:07,754 --> 00:21:11,274 Speaker 1: though mentally I'm twenty eight. Physically I'm not, so definitely 470 00:21:11,474 --> 00:21:17,474 Speaker 1: has to be comfortable. And I would say in some 471 00:21:17,914 --> 00:21:20,234 Speaker 1: parts of my life, I would say sexy. Yeah, I 472 00:21:20,354 --> 00:21:22,114 Speaker 1: like agree, I like to bring you know, a bit 473 00:21:22,154 --> 00:21:23,194 Speaker 1: of a sexy vamp. 474 00:21:23,794 --> 00:21:25,994 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say femine because anything flowy florals, but yes, 475 00:21:26,034 --> 00:21:27,754 Speaker 2: I agree, but you do it in a very tasteful, 476 00:21:28,194 --> 00:21:29,274 Speaker 2: well played way. 477 00:21:29,834 --> 00:21:30,194 Speaker 1: Thank you. 478 00:21:30,274 --> 00:21:32,074 Speaker 2: Like I like spot in your cleavage every now and then, 479 00:21:32,074 --> 00:21:33,634 Speaker 2: but it's not like whoa you know. 480 00:21:34,074 --> 00:21:38,394 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so comfortable and sexy, and I would have 481 00:21:38,474 --> 00:21:39,154 Speaker 1: to say collectic. 482 00:21:39,234 --> 00:21:40,834 Speaker 2: I was gonna say collectic, and I mean, I don't 483 00:21:40,874 --> 00:21:43,033 Speaker 2: hear that's such an overused fashion word, but it just 484 00:21:43,114 --> 00:21:46,554 Speaker 2: explains how erratic your wardrobe can be given your job. 485 00:21:46,594 --> 00:21:49,313 Speaker 2: But I think also just my brain, yes, I have 486 00:21:49,394 --> 00:21:51,513 Speaker 2: cleaned out your wardrobe physically once in real life, so 487 00:21:51,754 --> 00:21:52,194 Speaker 2: I know. 488 00:21:52,154 --> 00:21:52,674 Speaker 1: What that's like. 489 00:21:52,834 --> 00:21:55,833 Speaker 2: Does So coming up after the break Booty to budget, 490 00:21:55,834 --> 00:21:58,714 Speaker 2: You've got three wonderful items, all of which are very 491 00:21:58,754 --> 00:22:01,834 Speaker 2: relevant to the end of financial year, sales or just 492 00:22:01,874 --> 00:22:02,594 Speaker 2: doing your tax. 493 00:22:03,234 --> 00:22:12,154 Speaker 1: It's a tax hack. Oh god, here we go. It's 494 00:22:12,314 --> 00:22:14,793 Speaker 1: very expensive. How hundred. 495 00:22:18,554 --> 00:22:22,754 Speaker 2: Okay, Bougie to budget. Apparently you're also a taxation expert. 496 00:22:23,034 --> 00:22:24,874 Speaker 2: Maybe we should put a disclaimer that you're not actually 497 00:22:24,874 --> 00:22:27,353 Speaker 2: a tax expert and this is not financial advice. But 498 00:22:27,394 --> 00:22:30,114 Speaker 2: what is the item you're bringing related to getting a 499 00:22:30,194 --> 00:22:30,754 Speaker 2: tax done? 500 00:22:30,874 --> 00:22:33,793 Speaker 1: Well? I wrote about it for Muma Mia because not 501 00:22:33,874 --> 00:22:36,674 Speaker 1: many people know that if you buy a work bag 502 00:22:37,314 --> 00:22:40,034 Speaker 1: and it's three hundred dollars or less, you can claim 503 00:22:40,034 --> 00:22:42,273 Speaker 1: the entire thing it needs to be something that you 504 00:22:42,314 --> 00:22:45,234 Speaker 1: carry work items in. Okay, so you know, we don't 505 00:22:45,314 --> 00:22:47,674 Speaker 1: have much like you know, I like the cap of 506 00:22:47,714 --> 00:22:49,434 Speaker 1: three hundred because I think people were getting a little 507 00:22:49,434 --> 00:22:51,474 Speaker 1: bit silly one time. Yeah. Well, if it is over 508 00:22:51,514 --> 00:22:55,034 Speaker 1: three hundred, then you just need to you can still 509 00:22:55,034 --> 00:22:57,074 Speaker 1: claim part of it back. Okay. Well the three hundred 510 00:22:57,194 --> 00:23:00,714 Speaker 1: unders the magic number. Okay, So what's your budget? Okay? 511 00:23:00,754 --> 00:23:04,474 Speaker 1: So it's a Target large work tote bag in chocolate. Okay, 512 00:23:04,594 --> 00:23:07,354 Speaker 1: they've been doing amazing bags this season. It's it's a 513 00:23:07,434 --> 00:23:10,634 Speaker 1: leather look okay, exterior okay, because it's thirty five dollars. 514 00:23:10,834 --> 00:23:13,074 Speaker 1: My god, I know. Do you know why? That's also great? 515 00:23:13,114 --> 00:23:15,154 Speaker 1: Because I am the person that runs out of the door, 516 00:23:15,314 --> 00:23:17,514 Speaker 1: grabs her lunch, grabs the laptop, grabs the water ball, 517 00:23:17,514 --> 00:23:19,353 Speaker 1: and then everything swimming in my bag when I get 518 00:23:19,394 --> 00:23:21,754 Speaker 1: to work. I mean, yeah, rap the laptop. But you 519 00:23:21,794 --> 00:23:24,634 Speaker 1: can literally wash and wipe that down because it's not leather. 520 00:23:24,874 --> 00:23:27,874 Speaker 1: It happened to one of my Swede bags last week. Great. 521 00:23:28,114 --> 00:23:31,434 Speaker 1: Is it big enough for all the things? It's massive? Okay? Massive? Wow? 522 00:23:31,514 --> 00:23:33,834 Speaker 1: And brown? You say black? It comes in black as well? 523 00:23:33,914 --> 00:23:37,834 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Next, okay, my mid one. I love this, 524 00:23:38,274 --> 00:23:40,274 Speaker 1: it's actually and other stories. 525 00:23:40,394 --> 00:23:44,074 Speaker 2: I love that brand same Yeah, relatively new to Australia. 526 00:23:44,274 --> 00:23:47,033 Speaker 1: Yeah, just really cool stuff. But again, so this one's 527 00:23:47,274 --> 00:23:50,234 Speaker 1: two ninety nine and if I was being an Elise 528 00:23:50,354 --> 00:23:52,994 Speaker 1: Cosey Lives, my mid wouldn't be two ninety nine. Yes, 529 00:23:52,994 --> 00:23:55,834 Speaker 1: of course because of the tax hack. It's basically free. Yes, 530 00:23:55,914 --> 00:23:58,874 Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, Math's girl, Math, thank you, And 531 00:23:58,954 --> 00:24:00,794 Speaker 1: it's explaining to me I need to know if it's bag. 532 00:24:00,874 --> 00:24:04,394 Speaker 1: It's a really generous size and the I think the 533 00:24:04,434 --> 00:24:08,194 Speaker 1: color they said it's medium dusty, but I would say 534 00:24:08,194 --> 00:24:11,313 Speaker 1: it's like a rich chocolate color. Yeah, and swayed, and 535 00:24:11,354 --> 00:24:14,073 Speaker 1: it's just it's got a really beautiful shape and really 536 00:24:14,194 --> 00:24:17,594 Speaker 1: lovely handles, like it looks like a handbag, like it's 537 00:24:17,594 --> 00:24:20,594 Speaker 1: got that like, oh that I need a gorgeous handbag, 538 00:24:20,714 --> 00:24:22,914 Speaker 1: but you do. It's for your laptop. Oh yes, I 539 00:24:22,954 --> 00:24:23,354 Speaker 1: know that one. 540 00:24:23,394 --> 00:24:25,434 Speaker 2: That's a J for the roads bag, which is about 541 00:24:25,474 --> 00:24:28,394 Speaker 2: thirteen thousand dollars. So look at the money you're saving. 542 00:24:28,474 --> 00:24:31,394 Speaker 2: That's gorgeous. That's gorgeous. The only thing I will say 543 00:24:31,394 --> 00:24:34,234 Speaker 2: with a bag of that style, because I've learned it before, 544 00:24:34,274 --> 00:24:36,474 Speaker 2: is I end up packing my bag to within an 545 00:24:36,514 --> 00:24:38,793 Speaker 2: inch of its life. It is so heavy that I 546 00:24:38,834 --> 00:24:41,594 Speaker 2: can't walk. I need a heavy dudy handle. But I 547 00:24:41,594 --> 00:24:43,834 Speaker 2: want to be a person that carries a bag that's stylish. Yes, 548 00:24:43,954 --> 00:24:47,354 Speaker 2: same last, but not least. Okay, and it is. I'm 549 00:24:47,354 --> 00:24:49,394 Speaker 2: sorry I've just cut to the chase, but the producer 550 00:24:49,394 --> 00:24:51,154 Speaker 2: showed me a picture. It's a Juliette bag from July. 551 00:24:51,754 --> 00:24:53,234 Speaker 2: Can I tell you why I love that? Actually, you 552 00:24:53,234 --> 00:24:56,513 Speaker 2: tell me about it. This is your part, yeah, okay, okay. 553 00:24:56,514 --> 00:24:58,634 Speaker 1: And also so it's four hundred and ninety five dollars, 554 00:24:58,754 --> 00:25:02,033 Speaker 1: which for me is a bougie recodes it is I'm 555 00:25:02,074 --> 00:25:05,074 Speaker 1: Cozy lives queen. But again, you can still claim part 556 00:25:05,074 --> 00:25:07,273 Speaker 1: of it back on tax, so that's why I'm I'm 557 00:25:07,314 --> 00:25:11,513 Speaker 1: comfortable with that. The cobalt blue, oh wow, just like 558 00:25:11,634 --> 00:25:14,714 Speaker 1: the color, you know, like dopamine. Like it's so bright 559 00:25:14,834 --> 00:25:18,954 Speaker 1: and beautiful. It's like dopamine, like dope in dressing. Yes, 560 00:25:19,234 --> 00:25:21,114 Speaker 1: and it comes in eight different colors. If the blue 561 00:25:21,194 --> 00:25:22,594 Speaker 1: is too much, yeah, you know. 562 00:25:22,954 --> 00:25:25,154 Speaker 2: I've had mine for maybe three years and it's the 563 00:25:25,194 --> 00:25:27,914 Speaker 2: perfect work bag because it's like a zips shut. 564 00:25:28,034 --> 00:25:30,394 Speaker 1: It's got big handles. It's not real leather, which is 565 00:25:30,434 --> 00:25:33,273 Speaker 1: good for me because I'm quite a clumsy person. And 566 00:25:33,314 --> 00:25:35,273 Speaker 1: then it's got that like little strappy thing that if 567 00:25:35,314 --> 00:25:37,194 Speaker 1: you do travel into state for work, you just loop 568 00:25:37,194 --> 00:25:39,754 Speaker 1: it over your carry on situation or you know, take 569 00:25:39,794 --> 00:25:40,434 Speaker 1: it overseas. 570 00:25:40,714 --> 00:25:43,234 Speaker 2: It is such a hard working bag. At first I thought, oh, 571 00:25:43,314 --> 00:25:45,754 Speaker 2: not real leather. But it's so soft too that if 572 00:25:45,794 --> 00:25:47,234 Speaker 2: you know, you do go on a flight or you're 573 00:25:47,234 --> 00:25:49,513 Speaker 2: a mum and he's squishing bags. I'm always squishing things. 574 00:25:49,554 --> 00:25:51,914 Speaker 2: It's like you're like, oh, my bag, it's squishes nice. 575 00:25:51,994 --> 00:25:53,834 Speaker 2: My son has even fallen asleep on it on a flight. 576 00:25:54,274 --> 00:25:57,434 Speaker 1: Squishy. Really it's a good bag. Yes, so that's on 577 00:25:57,434 --> 00:25:57,834 Speaker 1: my wish. 578 00:25:57,994 --> 00:25:59,754 Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was that expensive though, but hey, 579 00:25:59,994 --> 00:26:01,593 Speaker 2: I don't regret buying it three years ago. 580 00:26:01,674 --> 00:26:04,073 Speaker 1: But with the tax again, the tax hack. You can 581 00:26:04,274 --> 00:26:06,273 Speaker 1: do those tax things. But for people that do do 582 00:26:06,714 --> 00:26:09,154 Speaker 1: like tax like, well I do, I do my tax. 583 00:26:09,154 --> 00:26:12,073 Speaker 1: I just don't know how I'm not evading tax. I 584 00:26:12,154 --> 00:26:15,074 Speaker 1: just don't understand all of the things. Yeah, okay, my 585 00:26:15,234 --> 00:26:18,354 Speaker 1: item I am bringing because you're apparently scared of them, 586 00:26:18,354 --> 00:26:20,794 Speaker 1: so I want to talk you into them. Let's set 587 00:26:20,834 --> 00:26:24,074 Speaker 1: the scene. I'm bringing three options for a scarf, a 588 00:26:24,114 --> 00:26:28,073 Speaker 1: winter scarf. Why are you scared of scarves? I don't 589 00:26:28,154 --> 00:26:30,474 Speaker 1: know how to style them. I don't know how to 590 00:26:30,554 --> 00:26:33,474 Speaker 1: tie them. I feel like it would like bulk me 591 00:26:33,594 --> 00:26:36,394 Speaker 1: around my chest, and I feel like it's like I 592 00:26:36,394 --> 00:26:38,674 Speaker 1: don't know how to make them look cheap. Okay, yeah, no, 593 00:26:38,714 --> 00:26:39,074 Speaker 1: I get it. 594 00:26:39,114 --> 00:26:42,273 Speaker 2: I think they're confusing because they're so functional, because you 595 00:26:42,514 --> 00:26:44,754 Speaker 2: generally only wear one when you want to be really warm, 596 00:26:44,794 --> 00:26:46,474 Speaker 2: but then we've kind of made them a fashion thing 597 00:26:46,514 --> 00:26:49,794 Speaker 2: whereby I don't really wear it because in Sydney, Australia 598 00:26:49,834 --> 00:26:52,074 Speaker 2: in winter in twenty twenty six, it isn't that cold 599 00:26:52,074 --> 00:26:54,554 Speaker 2: that my neck's going to step off. But I call 600 00:26:54,594 --> 00:26:57,513 Speaker 2: on them when I'm wearing my pajamas and a trench 601 00:26:57,554 --> 00:27:00,793 Speaker 2: coat to run to school to do drop off, and 602 00:27:00,834 --> 00:27:02,874 Speaker 2: I wrap around my neck or if my outfits incredibly 603 00:27:02,914 --> 00:27:04,754 Speaker 2: boring or I do not have one brain cell left 604 00:27:04,794 --> 00:27:06,834 Speaker 2: to think about it, and then that does the talking 605 00:27:06,834 --> 00:27:09,273 Speaker 2: for me, particularly because you know you're next to your 606 00:27:09,274 --> 00:27:11,474 Speaker 2: face weirdly and you just kind of wrap it around, 607 00:27:11,514 --> 00:27:13,594 Speaker 2: and that's all people see. It's the focal point. So 608 00:27:13,594 --> 00:27:14,954 Speaker 2: I'm going to show you I think you might be 609 00:27:14,954 --> 00:27:18,434 Speaker 2: looking at boring or just nothing scarves. Yeah, it's a 610 00:27:18,434 --> 00:27:20,354 Speaker 2: statement scarf we're talking about. You want chunkin it, you 611 00:27:20,434 --> 00:27:23,033 Speaker 2: want colors, you want pattern Let me talk you through this. 612 00:27:23,394 --> 00:27:25,314 Speaker 2: My budget is a brand called Token. You can get 613 00:27:25,314 --> 00:27:28,634 Speaker 2: it from different stores like Universal Store. So it's thirty dollars. 614 00:27:29,074 --> 00:27:31,513 Speaker 2: I'd imagine it's completely synthetic, but it's like a big 615 00:27:31,634 --> 00:27:33,834 Speaker 2: chunky it's not so much of a n it. It's 616 00:27:33,834 --> 00:27:36,674 Speaker 2: more like that fluffy felt and it's like a blurry 617 00:27:36,714 --> 00:27:37,674 Speaker 2: on break check. 618 00:27:38,154 --> 00:27:38,354 Speaker 1: Yeah. 619 00:27:38,394 --> 00:27:40,194 Speaker 2: I would literally put that lot on like that, but 620 00:27:40,274 --> 00:27:42,234 Speaker 2: like maybe over a tracksuit pants or a trench or 621 00:27:42,234 --> 00:27:43,033 Speaker 2: a denim jacket. 622 00:27:43,354 --> 00:27:45,194 Speaker 1: Yeah. So because it's a lot of color, so you 623 00:27:45,274 --> 00:27:47,594 Speaker 1: just want to be very neutral and then that's the hero. 624 00:27:47,794 --> 00:27:49,313 Speaker 2: Well that's what I mean. Yes, you could do it 625 00:27:49,314 --> 00:27:50,793 Speaker 2: the other way around. But if I had a fancy 626 00:27:50,834 --> 00:27:52,634 Speaker 2: outfit on that I really loved, that had a statement 627 00:27:52,714 --> 00:27:55,074 Speaker 2: piece or I just really loved, I'm not ruining it 628 00:27:55,114 --> 00:27:55,674 Speaker 2: with a scarf. 629 00:27:55,834 --> 00:27:59,073 Speaker 1: No. I generally grab a scarf and I'm like, yikes, 630 00:27:59,114 --> 00:28:01,274 Speaker 1: what else am I going to do here? It also 631 00:28:01,434 --> 00:28:03,674 Speaker 1: covers the pajamas, yes, And. 632 00:28:03,594 --> 00:28:04,994 Speaker 2: I mean I don't drive to school, so as if 633 00:28:04,994 --> 00:28:07,714 Speaker 2: I'm going to put clothes on, Okay, next I'm obsessed 634 00:28:07,754 --> 00:28:10,474 Speaker 2: with I want it. It is the Verge Girl Jude 635 00:28:10,554 --> 00:28:13,754 Speaker 2: knit scarf. It's eighty nine dollars. So you can get 636 00:28:13,794 --> 00:28:15,714 Speaker 2: different versions of this one. There's all different kind of 637 00:28:15,754 --> 00:28:20,074 Speaker 2: color blocking situations. It's just this one's called splice. It's 638 00:28:20,154 --> 00:28:22,513 Speaker 2: like a chunky knit scarff and it's not checked. It's like, 639 00:28:23,074 --> 00:28:25,594 Speaker 2: what are those iceblocks called that are like different gradients, 640 00:28:26,274 --> 00:28:29,834 Speaker 2: A paddle, twin pole, something like that. It's yellow, it's purple, 641 00:28:29,834 --> 00:28:33,793 Speaker 2: it's kaki, it's pink, it's that's like the cool girl's 642 00:28:33,794 --> 00:28:35,553 Speaker 2: way to wear color. I think all this for me 643 00:28:35,634 --> 00:28:38,114 Speaker 2: like a scary, scaredy cat's way to wear color, because 644 00:28:38,154 --> 00:28:39,794 Speaker 2: I would put that on with jeans and a white 645 00:28:39,794 --> 00:28:41,834 Speaker 2: tea or literally in my trench. 646 00:28:42,354 --> 00:28:44,994 Speaker 1: I'm still confused. No, I'm trying to think. So would 647 00:28:45,034 --> 00:28:46,834 Speaker 1: you wear it like that where it's like one long 648 00:28:46,874 --> 00:28:48,514 Speaker 1: piece down the front. Probably not. 649 00:28:48,634 --> 00:28:50,834 Speaker 2: I do have some scarves here to play with later 650 00:28:50,874 --> 00:28:52,994 Speaker 2: because I want to do some exposure therapy for you. 651 00:28:53,114 --> 00:28:54,914 Speaker 2: So the more you touch and play and wear scarves, 652 00:28:54,954 --> 00:28:57,634 Speaker 2: the less the fear will be there. But I just 653 00:28:57,634 --> 00:28:59,994 Speaker 2: think you need to go statementy, I don't like that 654 00:29:00,114 --> 00:29:01,874 Speaker 2: little I did bring a little scuff for you just 655 00:29:01,954 --> 00:29:04,634 Speaker 2: to introduce. But I think if you're gonna wear a scarf, 656 00:29:04,794 --> 00:29:06,394 Speaker 2: just go bold or go home. 657 00:29:06,634 --> 00:29:09,514 Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like a little scarf feels silly. Yeah, 658 00:29:09,514 --> 00:29:12,474 Speaker 1: it just feels like, what are you doing here? Doing here? Hello? 659 00:29:14,234 --> 00:29:16,274 Speaker 2: I feel like it's all about the big, chunky knit 660 00:29:16,514 --> 00:29:18,474 Speaker 2: kind of bold. It does have to be bold colors, 661 00:29:18,474 --> 00:29:20,714 Speaker 2: but it needs to be make a visual statement, textual statement, 662 00:29:20,794 --> 00:29:24,234 Speaker 2: or colorful statement. And the last one, my bougie will 663 00:29:24,234 --> 00:29:26,474 Speaker 2: forever be on my wish list. Even though it's reduced now, 664 00:29:26,514 --> 00:29:27,874 Speaker 2: it's still not possible for me. 665 00:29:27,954 --> 00:29:29,834 Speaker 1: How much is it? Would you like to guess the price? 666 00:29:30,194 --> 00:29:32,434 Speaker 1: What is it? It's a scarf, I know, but where 667 00:29:32,434 --> 00:29:36,154 Speaker 1: from Acne Studios Acne. If you're saying that, you're not, 668 00:29:36,874 --> 00:29:39,714 Speaker 1: I mean, is it like three thousand dollars? Oh my god, no, 669 00:29:39,834 --> 00:29:41,954 Speaker 1: I mean they exist so currently at the time of 670 00:29:41,994 --> 00:29:44,394 Speaker 1: recording is down from five hundred and sixty dollars to 671 00:29:44,434 --> 00:29:46,154 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty seven dollars. 672 00:29:46,354 --> 00:29:49,114 Speaker 2: They do versions of them all the time. They're a chunky, 673 00:29:49,154 --> 00:29:51,954 Speaker 2: mohaired check. I like that guy, which is kind of 674 00:29:52,034 --> 00:29:55,714 Speaker 2: like your muted color whatever your face is same night. 675 00:29:55,874 --> 00:29:57,634 Speaker 1: No, it's because I can't see very well, but I do. 676 00:29:57,794 --> 00:30:00,154 Speaker 1: I do really like that. How long is it? 677 00:30:00,234 --> 00:30:02,394 Speaker 2: Okay, let me find you a picture because the other 678 00:30:02,394 --> 00:30:04,754 Speaker 2: one's hearing were very long. Well, this is too, because 679 00:30:04,754 --> 00:30:07,754 Speaker 2: I'm bringing the same style. She's cool, she's chungk So 680 00:30:07,874 --> 00:30:10,194 Speaker 2: this again is long and state many. I'm not bringing 681 00:30:10,194 --> 00:30:12,274 Speaker 2: you a little middle of the road size. These are 682 00:30:12,354 --> 00:30:15,194 Speaker 2: like I'm actually cold or going to London in winter 683 00:30:15,714 --> 00:30:18,194 Speaker 2: and will keep me warm, or I just want to 684 00:30:18,194 --> 00:30:20,474 Speaker 2: make a visual statement. So it's big, it's great, it's 685 00:30:20,514 --> 00:30:22,114 Speaker 2: mo heired. This is the one you wouldn't put on 686 00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:23,874 Speaker 2: the floor of the airplane and you would keep forever 687 00:30:23,914 --> 00:30:27,234 Speaker 2: and really look after because, like I say, I've always 688 00:30:27,274 --> 00:30:28,834 Speaker 2: just checked on a trench and I can't be bothered. 689 00:30:28,834 --> 00:30:30,274 Speaker 2: And now when I check on a scuff as well, 690 00:30:30,274 --> 00:30:31,994 Speaker 2: it looks like I actually thought about it. 691 00:30:32,394 --> 00:30:34,954 Speaker 1: But really you're wearing pajamas underneath. Yes, I do it 692 00:30:34,994 --> 00:30:37,154 Speaker 1: almost every morning to school. Well, and Alyse, that was 693 00:30:37,234 --> 00:30:39,314 Speaker 1: very interesting. You are an onion. You are the Cozi 694 00:30:39,314 --> 00:30:41,274 Speaker 1: Libs queen. Thank you for joining me on Nothing to Wear, 695 00:30:41,314 --> 00:30:43,594 Speaker 1: and maybe we'll have you back soon. 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