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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for

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Speaker 2: Your Face.

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Speaker 3: I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly mccarnon.

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Speaker 2: Well I was gonna ask how you are, but thrilled

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Speaker 3: Well, why are you so ecstatic?

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Speaker 4: we have a great question about the popular beauty tool,

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Speaker 4: the guasher. But first Bailey has asked, how do I

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Speaker 4: fix post acne marks?

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Speaker 1: At least that's what I think it is.

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Speaker 4: It just looks like really subtle and barely noticeable red

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Speaker 2: Hmm, excellent question. And look, I don't have a silver

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Speaker 2: bullet solution. So you think it's post acne marks. I

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Speaker 2: wonder if we're talking post acne hyperpigmentation. You say it's red,

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Speaker 1: That's what I think it is, because that's what I

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Speaker 2: I'm a bigger who isn't Yeah, And obviously there's different

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Speaker 2: levels of scarring, so it's hard to know where you're at.

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Speaker 2: You say it's barely noticeable, which is good. I mean

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be easier to treat and probably cover with makeup.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about a few options. Peels or laser,

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Speaker 2: expensive but definitely effective. The laser I would recommend is

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Speaker 2: called CO two laser. It's a type of fractional laser.

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Speaker 2: There is downtime. I have had one session in that

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Speaker 2: Look, the results of CO two laser are incredible. The

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Speaker 2: of all over resurfacing. So pause lines, laxity. Some of

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Speaker 2: laser are credible. It's expensive and there's downtime, but it

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Speaker 2: depends on how much this skin concern worries you. Then topically. Firstly,

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Speaker 2: Just because it works doesn't mean you should go ham

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Speaker 2: then a vitamin A of some description. You could go

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Speaker 2: I are both huge fans of vitamin A retinals retinols

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Speaker 4: With a retinol, you're looking at about six weeks before

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Speaker 2: But the thing is with vitamin eight, it's so good

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Speaker 4: I had exactly the same thoughts as you are, the

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Speaker 3: So I mean I see micro and needling's praises or

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Speaker 4: It is a little pen that basically causes tiny little

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Speaker 3: That's what the.

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Speaker 2: Laser does to on a more hardcore level, much more hardcore.

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Speaker 2: Whereas there's varying types of needling, but a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: They might have had RF micro needling, which uses a

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Speaker 4: I find RIF needling really not that bad and she

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Speaker 2: I just think it can't hurt to start with your GP.

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Speaker 2: If you've got a pretty understanding GP and say, look

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Speaker 4: Coming up after the break. And you be a stumped

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Speaker 2: Ariel has asked, Hi, ladies, I'd love to submit a

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Speaker 2: applied on clean, dry skin, so currently I do that first.

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Speaker 2: Then I apply her hob or oil so the gwasher

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Speaker 4: And I once wondered this exact same thing, which is

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Speaker 4: why I was like, ah, great question.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and Kelly tell me your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I completely agree with her.

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Speaker 4: If you are going to go in with your guasher

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Speaker 1: The only reason that I would use a guasher in the.

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Speaker 3: And how often would you do that? Because I want

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Speaker 4: Literally only if I have something. Really you're hosting the

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Speaker 4: Oscar super Hot. Yeah, So what I would do then

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Speaker 2: And for those that aren't across, squashers usually like a

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Speaker 2: to manually massage lymphatic drainage. There's lots of videos on

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Speaker 1: They're really good. Then I would rinse, but not cleanse.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not going to use a cleanser to get

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Speaker 2: Maybe you could like wipe with a microfiber cloth just

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Speaker 2: so it's still a bit there. You know how you

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Speaker 4: Something like that, and then just pat off any excess.

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Speaker 4: Then I would go in with my vitamin C.

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Speaker 2: Okay, firstly, I haven't used a Gracia since nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 2: This has inspired me. I've got six hundred. Alexander thinks

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Speaker 2: they're toys. My questions to this lovely question asker is

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Speaker 2: how long are you waiting? Like, if you waited half

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Speaker 2: an hour, your vitamin C's probably done the active stuff

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Speaker 2: and penetrated. However, during the day we like to wear

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Speaker 2: Vitamin Sea long term under our sunscreen to fight free radicals.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do oil first. You're completely right, because oil's

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Speaker 2: like a barrier. So then I had a brain wave.

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Speaker 2: Have you tried a vitamin C oil?

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Speaker 1: There are a few on the market. They are beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Because I sat there going, this is a conundrum, and

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Speaker 2: and I don't think she probably does want to wait

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Speaker 2: for however, long before time to wait, so to the rescue.

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Speaker 2: I was so proud of myself here are four options,

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Speaker 2: the Sunday Riley Ceo Glow, Vitamin C and turmeric oil

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Speaker 2: face oil. It is so beautiful. It's sixty six dollars

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Speaker 2: from Mecca. Kelly is a big fan of this one,

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Speaker 2: I believe. Oh yes, I love it. The Hooba Company

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Speaker 2: Vitamin C Glow potion. So you're basically combining your two steps.

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Speaker 2: In mind, you're already using her Hoba. This is a

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Speaker 2: vitamin C version. It also has turmeric in it, so

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Speaker 2: it's actually must love vitamin C.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I actually made this product for people who

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Speaker 4: can't use traditional vitamin CY products because it makes their

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, okay, I'm changing everything. That's fifty nine

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Speaker 2: ninety five. Biosance has one. It's called the Biosance Squalene

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Speaker 2: sin I first came from this brand Vitamin C rose oil.

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Speaker 2: You can get it in different sizes at Sephora. So

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Speaker 2: Then hek on one hundred and thirty three dollars for thirty meals,

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Speaker 2: Esano beautiful affordable brand. They have the vitamin C super

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Speaker 2: Glow face oil, So maybe combine your antioxidency vitamin C

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Speaker 2: happy days. I'm very happy with that solution.

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Speaker 4: All four of those products you've recommended, I've tried them more.

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Speaker 1: I love them.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna buy the Sunday Riley, but I

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Speaker 3: The well I may have houstout.

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Speaker 2: All right, Hey, thank you for inspiring Kelly, and I

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Speaker 2: the break, we've got host hacks and I want you

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Speaker 2: to get shitzy.

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Speaker 4: Ooh what a.

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Speaker 3: You makeup packs?

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Speaker 2: All right, Kelly, Before I tell you why I want

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Speaker 2: you to perspire, can you please tell me your host tack.

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Speaker 1: I was doing this the.

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Speaker 4: trying to do a wing, it's pretty impossible.

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Speaker 3: A win winged eye line.

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Speaker 4: I mean putting some wings on your back and flowering

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Speaker 4: around like a little fairy.

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Speaker 3: Can'd to reach.

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Speaker 1: Use a Q tip.

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Speaker 4: Now it depends on your eye shape and also what

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Speaker 4: when I say the winged eelander, I mean the actual wing,

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Speaker 4: the part that comes.

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Speaker 3: Out from your wine house bit, but not a six streme.

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Speaker 4: You do want to if you use a Q tip

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Speaker 4: and sort of angle where you want the wing, then

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Speaker 4: literally just use it as like a little ruler.

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Speaker 3: And that's what you mean.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, you could use something else, but then you've

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Speaker 4: got product all over it.

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Speaker 1: You can just chuck it in the bin or don't

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Speaker 1: waste it. Use both the ends to clean.

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Speaker 2: Your You've already cleaned your ears first, after us, then

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Speaker 2: you don't you wax all over your face. I like

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Speaker 2: that better than tape. You know how a lot of

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Speaker 2: people say to you is tape with them. I don't

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Speaker 2: like the pape.

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Speaker 3: I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you meant clean up with a Q

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Speaker 2: tip and I was like, that's my life.

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Speaker 4: You can do that, but if I've done my base

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Speaker 4: or I don't know, maybe I don't like it's just

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Speaker 4: a quick, easy bait to.

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Speaker 3: Do, really neat tiny ruler.

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Speaker 2: Whereas I use a cut tip, as you know, for

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Speaker 2: my mascara, with a little bit of my cellar order.

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Speaker 2: And I often clean up my wings because I'm slap dash. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then I clean up my wing. I've done my

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Speaker 2: base and I've done my eye like that, then I

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Speaker 2: do my conceal a last, because i know I'm going

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Speaker 2: to make a mess.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'll do.

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Speaker 4: If I'm doing a really bold eye shudder because of

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Speaker 4: the fallout, I'll just go in with my eyes first

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Speaker 2: I'd actually love to know if the Ubis do base first,

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Speaker 2: eyes last, or eyes first.

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Speaker 3: I do eyes first.

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Speaker 1: It always just depends on what look I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: I do eyes always first, hole ie like it both.

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Speaker 3: I just one.

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Speaker 4: Big eye, just sort of that creature with the big

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Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking of the minion with one eye.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all of that all right.

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Speaker 2: My host tac is sweat, something that I get naturally

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Speaker 2: in summer without exercising. But I'm actually talking about the

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Speaker 2: exercise type of wet. I'm trying to get back into exercise.

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Speaker 4: Can you tell in fred or traditional soomet Yes, like

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Speaker 4: you don't need to exercise, just when you.

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Speaker 3: Can sit still in a hot box.

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Speaker 2: As we come into the warmer months, we are going

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Speaker 2: to perspire and just get kind of humid and sticky.

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Speaker 2: That's not really what I mean. I'm kind of talking

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Speaker 2: about the cardiovascular type sweat, like we're really pumping it

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Speaker 2: out and that could just be a brisk walk. Did

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Speaker 2: you know how good sweat is for your skin?

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, it's getting crap out.

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Speaker 3: It is kind of getting crap out.

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Speaker 4: The scientific words over here, it's getting crap out your skin.

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Speaker 2: But did you know that when you sweat, that brings

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Speaker 2: natural moisture within your body to the surface of the skin,

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Speaker 2: and it's a natural extolient. The salt and minerals that

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Speaker 2: of a detoxification, naturally exfoliate dead skin cells. And then

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Speaker 2: of course it's anti aging, we know, because it's like

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Speaker 2: healthy and we're exercising.

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Speaker 1: We're increasing our heart rate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah things, but also your own body sweat can actually

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Speaker 2: help kill harmful bacteria. Oh but if you're sweaty, don't

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Speaker 2: we even walk around in your own sweat. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: use you know, wipes or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Becausetherwise, you're going to get a nusiacnee.

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Speaker 2: Particularly, and it's more the fault of like lycra and

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Speaker 2: synthetic ears because it's all getting trapped. And better circulation, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: better circulation from the exercise when you're sweating, because sweat

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Speaker 2: is your body trying to cool you down. Causes blood

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Speaker 2: vessels to dilate and that's when everything kind of flows

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Speaker 2: and you'll get that flush.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that why people look hot after they've had sex?

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Speaker 3: Like you've had that? Oh, I have sex if you want.

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Speaker 3: That's a good idea, just having that much of a

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Speaker 3: vigorous sex.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, like if you're regular, if you're sweating in

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Speaker 2: this way regularly, it kind of tells your body to

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Speaker 2: produce more collagen.

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Speaker 3: How good. That is a great realm. So if you

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Speaker 3: don't want to do it for your heart, do it

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Speaker 3: for your skin.

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