WEBVTT - Hate Watching Emily In Paris 0:00:11.104 --> 0:00:11.424 So much. 0:00:11.464 --> 0:00:14.144 You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 0:00:14.784 --> 0:00:18.664 Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 0:00:18.744 --> 0:00:26.264 that this podcast is recorded on from mom and Me out. 0:00:26.304 --> 0:00:29.264 Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm 0:00:29.304 --> 0:00:33.064 Laura Broadnag and today we have a very special host. 0:00:33.664 --> 0:00:36.624 I'm Charlie Beck and I'm back in the studio. 0:00:36.864 --> 0:00:39.464 Hey Elvey, Welcome back, Charlie. Haven't seen you since you 0:00:39.504 --> 0:00:42.784 were here last time. I'm joking because we obviously sitting 0:00:42.824 --> 0:00:44.104 next to each other in the office. 0:00:43.864 --> 0:00:45.544 And just talk. We talk about all this kind of 0:00:45.544 --> 0:00:47.984 stuff just off the pod, so it's exciting. 0:00:47.624 --> 0:00:49.584 To be back talking about it for you guys. 0:00:49.784 --> 0:00:51.944 Well, we have a jam packed show today because Lily 0:00:52.024 --> 0:00:55.544 Allen has been in the news for traumatizing a small 0:00:55.544 --> 0:00:57.824 helpless dog. At least that's what the headlines are saying. 0:00:57.864 --> 0:00:59.984 There's a lot more to the story than that, and 0:01:00.184 --> 0:01:03.504 also hate watching Emily in Paris. Everyone's been doing it. 0:01:04.184 --> 0:01:06.784 But look, we're gonna have to have a different conversation. 0:01:06.824 --> 0:01:08.704 You and I are gonna have a difficult conversation about 0:01:08.744 --> 0:01:22.464 it out. Yeah, but for so making news today, something 0:01:22.544 --> 0:01:24.264 we have to talk about that so many people are 0:01:24.304 --> 0:01:26.904 buzzing about, and that is the fact that Oasis, a 0:01:27.024 --> 0:01:30.304 very iconic rock duo that has had many hits and 0:01:30.344 --> 0:01:34.664 many iconic songs, might potentially be getting back together for 0:01:34.704 --> 0:01:36.624 a tour. And why this is big news is that 0:01:36.664 --> 0:01:39.824 Oasis is made up of brothers Noel and Liam Gallagher, 0:01:40.304 --> 0:01:42.584 which you wouldn't really think that two brothers would have 0:01:42.704 --> 0:01:45.784 this much of a public beef scanning decades. But I 0:01:45.784 --> 0:01:47.664 guess this goes to show that you can never really 0:01:47.704 --> 0:01:50.184 hate someone like you can hate your own family. At 0:01:50.184 --> 0:01:53.864 some point, because they were a really popular band that 0:01:53.984 --> 0:01:56.224 are very public falling out and it all culminated in 0:01:56.264 --> 0:01:58.504 two thousand and nine. They've been having a feud for 0:01:58.504 --> 0:02:00.944 a long time, but it all boiled over when they 0:02:00.984 --> 0:02:03.864 were performing at a festival in Paris at a very 0:02:03.864 --> 0:02:06.744 public fight on stage, and then the next day there 0:02:06.744 --> 0:02:09.624 was a statement on the band's website from Noel Gallagher 0:02:09.704 --> 0:02:11.304 to say he could know no longer work with his 0:02:11.344 --> 0:02:14.304 brother Liam after a series of arguments, and said it 0:02:14.344 --> 0:02:16.344 was with sadness but relief to tell you that he 0:02:16.384 --> 0:02:18.824 had quit Oasis and that he could not go on 0:02:18.904 --> 0:02:21.544 working with Liam for another day longer. They've had a 0:02:21.624 --> 0:02:24.344 very back and forth of words over the last years, 0:02:24.544 --> 0:02:26.784 with people desperate for them to get back together, and 0:02:26.824 --> 0:02:29.944 then this week, on the anniversary of when they had 0:02:30.024 --> 0:02:33.064 dropped one of their albums on August thirtieth and nineteen 0:02:33.144 --> 0:02:36.304 ninety four, their debut album, which became the fastest selling 0:02:36.464 --> 0:02:41.384 album in UK history. They've posted identical videos to their 0:02:41.384 --> 0:02:45.024 social media pages hinting for the first time at a reunion, 0:02:45.504 --> 0:02:47.544 and a lot of different outlets are reporting that they're 0:02:47.584 --> 0:02:49.944 potentially going to pay a series of shows at Wembley 0:02:49.984 --> 0:02:52.824 Stadium and if they play these shows, they will break 0:02:52.864 --> 0:02:55.104 the record that Taylor Swift has just set for playing 0:02:55.104 --> 0:02:57.344 there for the most shows. So they haven't said yes yet, 0:02:57.384 --> 0:02:59.864 but they haven't denied it. They've been dropping clues like 0:02:59.944 --> 0:03:02.144 Liam Gallagher posts on x that he doesn't like being 0:03:02.184 --> 0:03:04.504 called a former band and people like that means you're 0:03:04.544 --> 0:03:07.424 coming back, and a lot of people are very excited. Yeah. 0:03:07.464 --> 0:03:10.344 Well, I learned a lot over the past few hours 0:03:10.464 --> 0:03:12.704 reading about Oasis. So I am a little bit younger, 0:03:12.904 --> 0:03:15.344 and of course I know the songs, but I didn't 0:03:15.384 --> 0:03:18.744 know about this decade spanning feud between the two men. 0:03:19.104 --> 0:03:21.504 So I learned that Oasis was actually started by Liam 0:03:22.064 --> 0:03:25.104 and last minute he asked his brother Noel to join 0:03:25.224 --> 0:03:29.024 the band and Rockie Movely wasn't gonna go. Well. 0:03:29.224 --> 0:03:30.264 It worked for quite a while. 0:03:30.384 --> 0:03:31.184 It worked quite a while. 0:03:31.184 --> 0:03:35.104 Theyd it amazing until it didn't. So they released their 0:03:35.424 --> 0:03:37.304 debut album, Definitely Maybe, which you mentioned. It has been 0:03:37.344 --> 0:03:40.304 thirty years since that came out in August nineteen ninety four, 0:03:40.584 --> 0:03:44.424 and that same year, Liam threw a tambourine at his brother. 0:03:44.704 --> 0:03:46.904 Again, We've all been there. People call it the Kardashians 0:03:46.944 --> 0:03:49.344 of being ridiculous for like beating each other up as adults, 0:03:49.384 --> 0:03:51.624 but it goes to show that it can happen to anyone. 0:03:51.424 --> 0:03:53.704 Laura, I didn't know any because it gets better. The 0:03:53.784 --> 0:03:57.704 following year, in May, Liam brought visitors to the studio, 0:03:58.024 --> 0:04:01.504 disrupting Nol, who responded by reportedly hitting his brother over 0:04:01.544 --> 0:04:03.864 the head with a cricket bat. The cricket bat was 0:04:03.944 --> 0:04:04.784 later sold at auction. 0:04:05.144 --> 0:04:07.624 Oh I'm sure for quite a bit of money, I suspect. 0:04:07.824 --> 0:04:10.904 And then the following year, in nineteen ninety six, Liam 0:04:10.944 --> 0:04:15.544 pulled out of their MTV Unplugged show, citing he had laryngitis. 0:04:16.024 --> 0:04:18.544 The band performed without him and Liam, who was supposed 0:04:18.584 --> 0:04:21.304 to be too sick to play, sat in the audience 0:04:21.384 --> 0:04:23.784 drinking his beer and smoking a cigarette. 0:04:24.064 --> 0:04:26.464 I mean an iconic move really when you think about it, 0:04:26.504 --> 0:04:28.464 I love it. But this is what fans have been 0:04:28.504 --> 0:04:30.344 asking for for years. This is the first time it 0:04:30.384 --> 0:04:32.744 seems like it is happening. So I guess keep an 0:04:32.784 --> 0:04:35.424 eye on their social media accounts, on their x accounts, 0:04:35.424 --> 0:04:37.224 on the Instagram accounts for the big reveal. 0:04:43.784 --> 0:04:44.864 Makes Please Time. 0:04:46.304 --> 0:04:47.384 Makes smar. 0:04:49.344 --> 0:04:52.944 So. UK singer Lily Allen was buried under an Internet 0:04:52.984 --> 0:04:56.664 pylon this week, but she's never finding back. On Thursday, 0:04:56.744 --> 0:04:59.144 Alan was speaking about animal adoption on an episode of 0:04:59.184 --> 0:05:02.304 her miss Me podcast. Alan said she and her family 0:05:02.384 --> 0:05:06.744 were considering adopting a Chiuaha mixed puppy very soon. During 0:05:06.744 --> 0:05:09.824 the conversation, Alan mentioned that she'd previously adopted a puppy 0:05:09.824 --> 0:05:13.144 they named him Mary, during the pandemic Ahaha. She was 0:05:13.184 --> 0:05:16.064 one of those one of those who adopted a puppy. 0:05:16.224 --> 0:05:18.224 I Justine, but some people got a puppy. 0:05:18.304 --> 0:05:21.224 I got one too, had a puppy and Mary was 0:05:21.304 --> 0:05:22.664 rescued from a dog shelter. 0:05:23.184 --> 0:05:25.424 She said, we actually did adopt a dog together. 0:05:25.464 --> 0:05:27.584 Already, but then I ate my passport, so I took 0:05:27.624 --> 0:05:30.264 it back with the home. That's a conversation you have 0:05:30.304 --> 0:05:32.704 over wine, not on a podcast, just saying, but let's 0:05:32.744 --> 0:05:33.584 keep getting into it. 0:05:33.904 --> 0:05:35.824 She said she was a very badly. 0:05:35.464 --> 0:05:38.704 Behaved dog and I really tried very hard with her, 0:05:39.024 --> 0:05:41.304 but it just didn't work out, and the passports was 0:05:41.304 --> 0:05:43.544 the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. 0:05:44.144 --> 0:05:44.984 As you can assume. 0:05:45.104 --> 0:05:47.864 Then the backlash came flooding in. There were death threats, 0:05:47.944 --> 0:05:51.504 there were cruel tauns, there were even comparisons made between 0:05:51.544 --> 0:05:52.664 Alan and Adolf Hitler. 0:05:53.424 --> 0:05:54.184 Adamal writes. 0:05:54.264 --> 0:05:58.504 Charity Peter then published an open letter to Alan. They said, 0:05:58.704 --> 0:06:02.304 dogs are a lifetime commitment, Lily Allen, it's not fair 0:06:02.344 --> 0:06:05.464 to treat them like accessories, to discard when they're inconvenient. 0:06:06.544 --> 0:06:09.224 And then Alan reiterated that Mary was rey home to 0:06:09.304 --> 0:06:12.144 people that she knew within twenty four hours of the 0:06:12.184 --> 0:06:14.744 dog being returned to the shelter. She said, we couldn't 0:06:14.784 --> 0:06:17.704 meet Mary's needs, and her happiness and welfare were central 0:06:17.784 --> 0:06:18.984 to us making that decision. 0:06:19.024 --> 0:06:22.544 As difficult as it was, I've had rescue. 0:06:22.184 --> 0:06:24.784 Dogs pretty consistently throughout my life since I was four 0:06:24.864 --> 0:06:25.304 years old. 0:06:25.624 --> 0:06:27.624 I'm pretty good at asitating a dog's needs. 0:06:27.664 --> 0:06:30.224 I've never been accused of mistreating an animal, and I've 0:06:30.224 --> 0:06:33.224 found this whole week very distressing. So Peter a bit 0:06:33.264 --> 0:06:36.784 it didn't back down. They actually sent a stuffed mechanical 0:06:36.824 --> 0:06:39.144 dog that could want to Alan. 0:06:38.944 --> 0:06:41.904 And her home. I had no idea, Peter. 0:06:41.904 --> 0:06:43.784 Just she probably saw it while she was sifting through 0:06:43.824 --> 0:06:46.464 all the handwritten letters of death threats and violence against 0:06:46.464 --> 0:06:49.944 her kids which she got and found this little dog. Yeah. 0:06:50.064 --> 0:06:53.824 Look a few things happening here. One is that obviously 0:06:53.904 --> 0:06:57.824 joking about not looking after an animal properly is pretty intense. 0:06:57.904 --> 0:06:59.584 And I think also that comes off the back of 0:06:59.864 --> 0:07:02.904 so many people adopting dogs at certain times, like during 0:07:03.064 --> 0:07:05.344 the pandemic when people were at home more Sometimes it 0:07:05.384 --> 0:07:07.904 would get dogs as Christmas presents, or like at times 0:07:07.984 --> 0:07:09.584 during the year when they're home they dumped them before 0:07:09.624 --> 0:07:11.904 they go on holiday. Like that's a really ongoing problem 0:07:11.944 --> 0:07:14.384 in so many countries like the UK and Australia. And 0:07:14.424 --> 0:07:17.624 I think laughing about it with the celebrity might make 0:07:17.704 --> 0:07:20.144 it sound like overly flippant and make other people think 0:07:20.144 --> 0:07:21.904 that it was an okay thing to do. But on 0:07:21.944 --> 0:07:24.304 the other hand, I think like it's also really hard 0:07:24.344 --> 0:07:25.704 because you don't want to be on those people who 0:07:25.704 --> 0:07:28.624 says like, oh, no one can say anything anymore, whereas 0:07:28.624 --> 0:07:30.824 like there are definitely some things you shouldn't say in public. 0:07:31.104 --> 0:07:33.584 But I think like it's becoming to the point now 0:07:33.624 --> 0:07:36.064 where this is why celebrities are so difficult interviews and 0:07:36.104 --> 0:07:37.384 they don't want to talk about anything and no one 0:07:37.424 --> 0:07:39.864 can have a conversation, is that they're so worried that 0:07:39.944 --> 0:07:43.224 every little thing they say is going to get chopped 0:07:43.304 --> 0:07:46.384 up and put into a headline with no context, which 0:07:46.504 --> 0:07:47.904 is what happened to Lily Allen. Yeah. 0:07:47.904 --> 0:07:51.104 Absolutely, Yeah, I think it's into thing. I think there's like. 0:07:51.104 --> 0:07:53.304 Two sides of a coin with it, Like as she 0:07:53.384 --> 0:07:56.104 said after Sir Peter Kaye Bowen said you laughing when 0:07:56.144 --> 0:07:58.824 speaking about about any Mary and ruining this por Dood's life, 0:07:58.944 --> 0:08:01.144 and she clapped back and said, people laugh when they 0:08:01.144 --> 0:08:02.264 talk about painful things. 0:08:02.544 --> 0:08:03.144 So I get it. 0:08:03.144 --> 0:08:05.624 But I think she could have thought about what she said, 0:08:05.624 --> 0:08:07.864 probably a little bit more first before. 0:08:07.584 --> 0:08:08.064 She did it. 0:08:08.224 --> 0:08:09.944 Yeah, I do understand sometimes when you're telling it a 0:08:09.944 --> 0:08:12.464 difficult story, you do laugh. Also, as someone who also 0:08:12.584 --> 0:08:15.024 recently had to get an emergency replaced some passport. It's 0:08:15.104 --> 0:08:17.304 very stressful, So I understand why that would have tipped 0:08:17.304 --> 0:08:19.744 her over the edge. Like obviously in the moment, she 0:08:19.784 --> 0:08:22.704 should have added more information about it, the fact that 0:08:22.784 --> 0:08:25.704 she was re home to people that they knew, and 0:08:25.744 --> 0:08:27.344 like they kind of follow through to make sure that 0:08:27.344 --> 0:08:28.744 she had a good home. They didn't just like leave 0:08:28.784 --> 0:08:30.784 her on the doorstep of the shelter and drive away. 0:08:30.984 --> 0:08:33.704 But you don't have that context. But also, as we 0:08:33.704 --> 0:08:36.184 were chatting about yesterday in our spill meeting we were 0:08:36.184 --> 0:08:37.984 complicit in this too, is that we had sort of 0:08:38.024 --> 0:08:40.584 seen a few of the headlines bubbling around and we're like, oh, 0:08:40.584 --> 0:08:42.504 we won't cover that story today because we're quite busy, 0:08:42.584 --> 0:08:44.624 but because we have other stories we need to cover first. 0:08:44.664 --> 0:08:46.144 But maybe we'll do it tomorrow and we'll do a 0:08:46.184 --> 0:08:48.864 round up of like wild celebrity pet stories like Kim 0:08:48.904 --> 0:08:51.944 Kardashian's pets always going missing when she like decides she 0:08:51.944 --> 0:08:54.584 doesn't like them. Maybe it was Kylie Jennis dogs, which 0:08:54.624 --> 0:08:55.424 one of them fifteen? 0:08:55.664 --> 0:08:56.144 Where are they? 0:08:56.464 --> 0:08:58.544 Yeah, there's all kind of weird things. And then we 0:08:58.544 --> 0:09:00.464 were complicent until in the fact that like we hadn't 0:09:00.464 --> 0:09:02.584 sort of listened to the full interview and seen everything 0:09:02.624 --> 0:09:05.624 she'd said and also seen like what Peter had said, 0:09:05.704 --> 0:09:07.504 and when we looked into it today, you see a 0:09:07.504 --> 0:09:10.864 completely different story. But I think most people are doing that. 0:09:10.904 --> 0:09:13.104 They are seeing as Lily Allen said when she was 0:09:13.144 --> 0:09:15.504 on X and she wrote out the line and she's like, 0:09:15.544 --> 0:09:17.704 this is the line from the podcast that every tabloid 0:09:17.704 --> 0:09:20.464 has pulled out, and this is the actual story. But 0:09:20.984 --> 0:09:23.544 only about twenty percent of people who read the original 0:09:23.864 --> 0:09:26.144 Lily Allen got rid of her dog and laughed about 0:09:26.144 --> 0:09:28.984 its story, which makes her sound like Crola Deville's stepdaughter 0:09:29.064 --> 0:09:31.144 or something like that, Like she was coming across pretty 0:09:31.184 --> 0:09:34.424 intensely bad in the media coverage around this yesterday. Only 0:09:34.424 --> 0:09:36.264 about twenty percent of those people are then going to 0:09:36.344 --> 0:09:38.984 go read her full statement, and so that story just 0:09:39.024 --> 0:09:39.824 doesn't get out there. 0:09:40.104 --> 0:09:42.424 After the break, we have just seen the first taste 0:09:42.424 --> 0:09:44.944 of part two of Emily in Paris season four, and 0:09:44.984 --> 0:09:45.664 we don't. 0:09:45.464 --> 0:09:48.224 Agree Laura and Hi fight it out after the break. 0:09:56.024 --> 0:09:58.584 Well, today I woke up to a very exciting email 0:09:58.664 --> 0:10:01.424 from the Netflix Australia publicity team and it was the 0:10:01.464 --> 0:10:06.464 new trailer for part two of Emily in Paris season four. 0:10:06.704 --> 0:10:08.704 It's Laura Brodnick's Christmas. 0:10:08.744 --> 0:10:11.264 And it usually comes out at Christmas. Obviously we've talked 0:10:11.304 --> 0:10:13.304 about it before. I've moved on with My pain. It's 0:10:13.304 --> 0:10:14.704 coming out at a weird time of year, but we're 0:10:14.744 --> 0:10:17.704 making the best of it. So that's Netflix's new trick 0:10:17.824 --> 0:10:20.144 is to split all of their big shows into two 0:10:20.224 --> 0:10:22.184 different drops. They did it with Bridgerton, they're now doing 0:10:22.224 --> 0:10:23.464 with Emily and Harris so much. 0:10:23.504 --> 0:10:26.184 They're doing it with My Reality they shows. It's so rude. 0:10:26.344 --> 0:10:28.784 Well, in a way, I don't quite mind it, because 0:10:28.824 --> 0:10:31.184 now we're having two exciting hits of Emily and Paris 0:10:31.184 --> 0:10:33.784 coming out. And also we're playing into Netflix's hands here 0:10:33.824 --> 0:10:35.584 because the reason they're doing this is so they get 0:10:35.624 --> 0:10:38.544 two hits of publicity, which is exactly what they got 0:10:38.544 --> 0:10:40.184 from us. Because we talked about the first trailer, now 0:10:40.184 --> 0:10:41.984 we're talking about the second trailer. They're playing us like 0:10:42.024 --> 0:10:44.304 a violin. I have to be okay with it because 0:10:44.304 --> 0:10:45.944 I'm excited Family and Paris coming back. 0:10:47.184 --> 0:10:48.064 It is so gorgeous. 0:10:48.104 --> 0:10:50.184 I feel like I'm in the sound of music any minute. 0:10:50.264 --> 0:10:52.064 Julie Andrews is gonna be running over that. 0:10:52.144 --> 0:10:54.264 Hell that was Austria. This is friends. 0:10:54.424 --> 0:10:59.624 Please don't kill my fantasy. Absolutely, yes, gay shoe. 0:11:01.504 --> 0:11:05.584 If you had someone an American girl Jennevie looking chic. 0:11:05.744 --> 0:11:07.584 Sylvia gave me a bit of a Paris makeover. 0:11:08.384 --> 0:11:10.224 Jenny from the blog of now Genji from that. 0:11:11.984 --> 0:11:17.104 Yeah, okay, don't encourage her. Where are you guys going lunch? 0:11:17.544 --> 0:11:23.584 I will talk you. You're always gonna choose her. She's 0:11:23.624 --> 0:11:26.744 having my baby, I know, but I cannot be the 0:11:26.824 --> 0:11:28.744 person who pulls your away from your family. 0:11:30.144 --> 0:11:34.264 If you're happy, I thought. 0:11:33.504 --> 0:11:34.944 Oh my god, that's Genevieve. 0:11:35.224 --> 0:11:37.864 Are we sure we like her? Mate? 0:11:39.424 --> 0:11:43.104 What brings you to Paris? Exploring some business opportunities? GVM 0:11:43.184 --> 0:11:45.864 me is desperate to acquire them. I'd love to get 0:11:45.904 --> 0:11:48.544 a meeting with Arch. Not going to Rome. It's not 0:11:48.584 --> 0:11:51.744 the first time you mix business with pleasure. You're actually 0:11:51.864 --> 0:11:52.864 quite good at it. 0:11:53.344 --> 0:11:57.504 For once, do something spontaneous and reckless and un emily 0:11:58.264 --> 0:12:00.584 just to have an adventure. So this is the same space. 0:12:00.584 --> 0:12:02.784 I'm gonna be honest. I haven't actually watched season four 0:12:02.904 --> 0:12:05.224 just yet. Every week and I go in and say, okay, 0:12:05.264 --> 0:12:07.824 I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it, but I'm 0:12:07.824 --> 0:12:08.504 gonna be honest. 0:12:08.944 --> 0:12:10.904 I can't stand Emily, and. 0:12:10.824 --> 0:12:12.144 I know a lot of people agree with me that 0:12:12.504 --> 0:12:14.704 it's very divided. People either love or they either hate 0:12:15.304 --> 0:12:17.784 love hate watching. I'm definitely in that camp, and I've 0:12:17.824 --> 0:12:20.064 seen all the other seasons, but I think because it 0:12:20.104 --> 0:12:21.704 usually comes out of a Christmas I kind of run 0:12:21.744 --> 0:12:21.984 out of. 0:12:21.984 --> 0:12:22.584 Things to watch. 0:12:22.984 --> 0:12:26.304 I'm full from all the Christmas hamm I've eaten, I've 0:12:26.384 --> 0:12:28.104 drunk too much, and I'm just going to zone out 0:12:28.104 --> 0:12:30.064 and watch it. But right now I'm just like, I 0:12:30.184 --> 0:12:32.704 just can't deal with her face. But I did watch 0:12:32.704 --> 0:12:35.504 the trailer today and now I'm like, Okay, I'm ready 0:12:35.504 --> 0:12:37.664 to watch it, but of course still hate watch it. 0:12:37.824 --> 0:12:39.064 But we don't feel the same way. 0:12:39.144 --> 0:12:40.344 I'm not going to get angry at you. I did 0:12:40.424 --> 0:12:41.944 see you recoil just then as you said it, like 0:12:41.984 --> 0:12:43.504 I was going to launch across the table at you. 0:12:43.744 --> 0:12:46.384 I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. We're on different sides of 0:12:46.384 --> 0:12:48.664 the fence with this. First of all, don't force yourself 0:12:48.704 --> 0:12:49.744 to watch Emily in Paris. 0:12:49.904 --> 0:12:52.224 I like watching it literally so annoying. 0:12:52.424 --> 0:12:57.024 The show is there for pure enjoyment, and escaping. It's enjoyable. Yeah, 0:12:57.064 --> 0:12:59.024 So if it's not giving you that, don't force yourself 0:12:59.024 --> 0:13:00.744 to watch it. This is not something that needs to 0:13:00.784 --> 0:13:03.984 be in your film and TV diet of things you're consuming. 0:13:04.064 --> 0:13:04.464 Do you know what? 0:13:04.504 --> 0:13:07.544 I like it too, and just like that, oh right, 0:13:07.864 --> 0:13:10.384 it annoys me like that. I love the over the 0:13:10.424 --> 0:13:14.544 top fashion, I love Mindy, I love Camille, I love 0:13:14.584 --> 0:13:20.464 the Men obviously, but Emily Cooper just gives me Carrie 0:13:20.904 --> 0:13:23.424 in and just like that, it's a bit too over 0:13:23.464 --> 0:13:23.864 the top. 0:13:24.144 --> 0:13:25.144 You wouldn't say that. 0:13:25.224 --> 0:13:25.624 I don't know. 0:13:26.264 --> 0:13:28.624 Yeah. See, the thing about this is that, first of all, 0:13:28.624 --> 0:13:31.384 I don't understand hate watching at all. I don't hate 0:13:31.424 --> 0:13:33.944 watch anything. If people do and that brings you joy, 0:13:33.984 --> 0:13:37.944 then that's fine. But I can't get on board even 0:13:37.984 --> 0:13:40.184 that though. I can't watch something that I find cringe, 0:13:40.384 --> 0:13:42.064 or that i'm watching to hate, or that I'm watching 0:13:42.144 --> 0:13:43.504 because I know I'm gonna hate this, but I want 0:13:43.504 --> 0:13:45.544 to join in the conversation. Obviously, sometimes for work I 0:13:45.584 --> 0:13:47.424 get forced to watch something, but that's worth time, that's seen. 0:13:47.544 --> 0:13:49.224 That's why you don't watch reality TV one. 0:13:49.144 --> 0:13:51.544 Hundred percent why I don't watch reality Emily in Paris 0:13:51.584 --> 0:13:54.184 is my version. I think of people who watch reality 0:13:54.184 --> 0:13:56.784 TV and have that escapism. I can't deal with adult 0:13:56.864 --> 0:13:59.944 woman and it mostly is that screaming and fighting and 0:14:00.424 --> 0:14:03.624 having all these big dramatic fights. I can't deal with that. 0:14:03.664 --> 0:14:06.064 But what I want to it's not I've been good 0:14:06.104 --> 0:14:08.904 or not. I watch the absolute trash, but my trash 0:14:08.944 --> 0:14:10.944 it needs to have this escape as and this like 0:14:11.104 --> 0:14:14.544 fancy wonderment of this girl walking around in these beautiful 0:14:14.544 --> 0:14:17.184 clothes in Paris. And I kind of do hate the 0:14:17.224 --> 0:14:19.224 way people completely right up this show. Look, I'm not 0:14:19.264 --> 0:14:21.024 going to throw down and goautline and be like this 0:14:21.064 --> 0:14:24.344 is prestige TV, this is excellent TV. It's not that. 0:14:25.064 --> 0:14:28.904 But it's a very frothy show with I think, really 0:14:28.904 --> 0:14:31.664 good characters and a way of keeping you drawn into 0:14:31.704 --> 0:14:34.904 this fantastical world that they've created of a Paris that 0:14:34.944 --> 0:14:38.064 most people don't experience but you sometimes do. And I 0:14:38.104 --> 0:14:39.984 think that's actually a lot harder to do than people think. 0:14:40.024 --> 0:14:41.704 And also, can I just tell you're not gonna like this, 0:14:41.784 --> 0:14:44.184 but I have to say it too. The reason you 0:14:44.304 --> 0:14:47.544 hate Emily Cooper is that you have some Emily Cooper 0:14:47.624 --> 0:14:52.184 in you, and she's really angry, not in a bad way. 0:14:52.544 --> 0:14:55.784 I do too. The thing is that she's almost like 0:14:55.824 --> 0:14:58.664 this character insert like she's a bit of a bland character. 0:14:58.944 --> 0:15:02.144 She's a little bit embarrassing, but she's this moment that 0:15:02.184 --> 0:15:05.184 we all have when we're traveling, or we're with people 0:15:05.224 --> 0:15:07.424 who think that are fancy than us, or we're just 0:15:07.584 --> 0:15:09.784 always say the wrong thing when we quite don't mean 0:15:09.824 --> 0:15:12.704 to and find ourselves in situations. And she is that 0:15:12.824 --> 0:15:16.944 kind of choogy, kind of like sometimes the most embarrassing 0:15:16.984 --> 0:15:17.944 sides of. 0:15:17.784 --> 0:15:19.424 Ourselves, that's just all put into one. 0:15:19.864 --> 0:15:21.864 Yeah, And I think that a lot of us don't 0:15:21.904 --> 0:15:23.944 want to think that we're that person. We want to 0:15:23.984 --> 0:15:28.224 think we're the cool, incredible Sylvie or the hilarious sort 0:15:28.264 --> 0:15:30.624 of really sharp and always knows the thing to say mindy, 0:15:30.704 --> 0:15:32.864 Like we want to think we're those characters, or even 0:15:32.944 --> 0:15:35.424 like Camille, I mean, blessed that girl. I'm pretty sure 0:15:35.464 --> 0:15:37.544 Camille that's her name in real life too. Is this 0:15:37.624 --> 0:15:39.624 is her first acting job and they were just, yeah, 0:15:39.624 --> 0:15:41.384 she's just playing herself. I don't think she knows the 0:15:41.464 --> 0:15:43.504 cameras on. She's just walking through the set being like 0:15:43.584 --> 0:15:45.224 this is my real life. I love her for that. 0:15:45.584 --> 0:15:46.864 It's like how no one wants to think that they're 0:15:46.904 --> 0:15:48.904 the carry every time people get angry about something that 0:15:48.904 --> 0:15:51.744 Carrie Bradshaw doush I carry because yeah, I am a 0:15:51.744 --> 0:15:53.304 lot of the time too. It's a reflection of the 0:15:53.304 --> 0:15:55.624 person you are. Absolutely, But I also think everyone's just 0:15:55.624 --> 0:15:57.824 so quick to write off Emily in Paris as being 0:15:57.824 --> 0:16:01.144 this like embarrassing show when it's not. I'm not saying 0:16:01.144 --> 0:16:02.264 that you're particularly. 0:16:02.024 --> 0:16:03.264 And I'm not saying the show. 0:16:03.304 --> 0:16:06.024 I'm saying her, Like I love Daran Star, I think 0:16:06.024 --> 0:16:08.184 what he's done amazing, I love Paris Escaping. 0:16:08.064 --> 0:16:08.504 Is all that. 0:16:08.584 --> 0:16:11.664 I wholeheartedly agree with you on that. I just think 0:16:11.704 --> 0:16:15.144 Emily is a character is annoying. But also is that 0:16:15.224 --> 0:16:17.064 kind of part of why people are so attracted to 0:16:17.144 --> 0:16:19.384 the show. There's a reason we're all still watching it. 0:16:19.384 --> 0:16:21.024 It's meant to be that fish out of water thing, 0:16:21.064 --> 0:16:24.144 Like if she had seamlessly moved into Paris life and 0:16:24.144 --> 0:16:27.224 everyone loved her and she was screaming when she sees 0:16:27.264 --> 0:16:30.464 the Eiffel Tower still like, it wouldn't be that kind 0:16:30.464 --> 0:16:32.944 of storytelling element. But also, I actually think she's a 0:16:33.184 --> 0:16:36.864 very realistic character. I don't think she's an overly interesting character. 0:16:36.904 --> 0:16:38.424 But I hate when people right off this show is 0:16:38.464 --> 0:16:40.904 like it's so silly, I have no idea what's going on, 0:16:41.064 --> 0:16:43.264 or like all these people are interchangeable. I just watch 0:16:43.264 --> 0:16:45.024 her for the clothes, and I'm like, these people are 0:16:45.064 --> 0:16:48.384 not interchangeable, Like, yeah, I don't agree. Sylvie Philippine lroi 0:16:48.424 --> 0:16:50.344 bloo probably didn't say her name right. She would hate 0:16:50.344 --> 0:16:52.904 me and I would love it is such an interesting 0:16:53.024 --> 0:16:56.024 nuance layered character. And I find the fact that people 0:16:56.024 --> 0:16:57.824 are writing the show off as trash when you've got 0:16:57.864 --> 0:17:00.064 a character like that, and you've got an actress like 0:17:00.104 --> 0:17:03.784 that who's giving such an incredible performance and looks so 0:17:04.144 --> 0:17:06.824 sexy and amazing as well as being an incredible actress, 0:17:06.864 --> 0:17:08.784 and she's like I'm in my sixties and she picks 0:17:08.824 --> 0:17:10.304 a lot of her clothes and like, I'm wearing this, 0:17:10.384 --> 0:17:13.344 I'm wearying that, And I just think that's so incredible 0:17:13.344 --> 0:17:15.824 and to write the show off as being stupid when 0:17:15.824 --> 0:17:17.784 you have an actress like that in the show. But 0:17:17.864 --> 0:17:19.744 I think people know from the trailers that there was 0:17:19.784 --> 0:17:24.424 the Alphi Emily Gabrielle love triangle. This season's gone to Gabrielle, 0:17:24.424 --> 0:17:27.504 which is kind of makes me really sad, but maybe 0:17:27.504 --> 0:17:29.264 she just needs to get out of her system. I 0:17:29.264 --> 0:17:31.104 think people are so quick to write off shows like 0:17:31.144 --> 0:17:33.744 this as being dumb, even if sometimes I are a 0:17:33.784 --> 0:17:37.344 little bit dumb, because it's meant for enjoyment for women 0:17:37.624 --> 0:17:39.824 or people who love watching this frothy kind of shows, 0:17:39.864 --> 0:17:42.544 and it's closed and it's fantasy. And if there was 0:17:42.544 --> 0:17:44.624 a show that was not as well done or not 0:17:44.664 --> 0:17:46.504