WEBVTT - Hear Us Out: The Characters We Shouldn't Be Lusting After (But That Won't Stop Us!) 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:03.520 From Mama Miya. Welcome to This Spill, your daily pop 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.640 culture fix. I'm m Burnham and I'm Annie Sherist Warren 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:09.440 and on the show today we have a very very 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:13.800 special Friday show because you might remember a little old 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:18.800 episode of the Spill where Bree and TB watched a trailer, 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.280 a trailer for what I'm seeing is might be the 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:26.320 perfect movie. Although this trailer is very, very strange. I'm 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.880 talking about Wicker. I feel like it's everywhere. So many 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:31.600 people have sent this to meeting, like, so we're going 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:36.919 to see the hot wooden Man in October. Oh, I 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:38.680 want you to make me a husband be at the 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:39.480 chapel in a month. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:41.080 Good? 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:53.760 Are you am? Maryor to marry you? What's that? This 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.440 is my husband? I heard that he's strong as a 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:08.240 tree and just as hard. He's wicker. Straighten me right out. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.560 Did you know there was two different versions of this trailer? Yes, 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.480 I have heard there's another version where you see the 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.920 full length of him for a brief second. I haven't 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.039 actually seen that one. I'll trying to find it. You 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.959 see like a lot more. I think you get a 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.760 lot more surface area of Wicker that you experience in 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.520 the UK trailer, whereas in the US trailer, which is 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.440 the one that's most widely shared, it's a tiny bit 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.479 more conservative, just a little bit for anyone who hasn't 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.040 seen it and has no idea what we're talking about. 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.840 Should we give them a little rundown on what Wicker is? Okay, 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.880 do you want to do that? Or shall I? I'm gonna try. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.480 Not your strong suit, maybe you no, I'll try. I'll 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.360 give it a go. So Wicker it's a movie that 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:57.760 stars Olivia Coleman and Alexander Skarsgard Alexander Scar's guard, and 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.919 Peter Dinklish and they are living in this like seaside 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:06.800 town in the in the Middle Ages outside I reckon 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.960 it's nineteenth century. It has to be seaside because she's 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.519 a fisher woman, true, and the whole town's people make 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.400 fun of Olivia Coleman's character because she hasn't married and 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.880 she's a fisher woman. So she goes to Peter Dinklish, 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.280 who's like, the town, I want to say weaver, and 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.240 she's like, can you make me a husband? Yes? And 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.040 he's like, get the chapel in a month, and she's 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.600 like all right, and he weaves her an actual live 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:35.840 husband made purely out of wicker. Yes, and then they 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.560 have a lot of hot sex. Yeah, it's a very 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.920 horny movie. Yeah. The trailer there's a scene where he 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:43.320 just gets his wooden erection his woods, I don't know, 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.040 and then they just have lots of sex and she's 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.200 like screaming and her whole life is great. Yes, And 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.359 I hear the women in the town from what I 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.920 can see from the trailer, they get very jealous because 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.160 like she's having such a good time, And the men 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.760 in the town also get jealous from a perspective of, like, 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.520 we need to kill this weird creature man. He's out 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.240 doing us. He's out doing us about men's insecurity, you 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:04.960 know what. It kind of reminds me of. It kind 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.400 of reminds me of and this is a long shot 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:11.480 to stick with me the B movie, whereas you know, 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.840 the main character how her boyfriend was like why you 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.400 spending so much time with this bee? Yeah. I kind 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.480 of see it from the perspective of the townspeople going, 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:24.239 why is this like wicked man just here in our town. Yeah, 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.080 But like none of them wanted to be with her, 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.320 So I'm like just not happy with Wickerman. He has 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.760 quite a hot, baskety body like he's definitely oh yeah. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.000 Peter Dinkler's character did works on this body. He did 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:39.000 gave him a six pack, yes, and some biceps. And 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:40.880 you know, originally it was going to be played by 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:44.560 Dev Patel. He was initially attached to this movie. You're 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.520 giving me a look. He was gonna play Wicker. He 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.040 was gonna play Wicker and he was gonna be like 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.640 the guy, and then it all changed. Now it's Alexander 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.880 Scar's guard, who I do feel like is the sex 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.440 guy Alexander scars Guard. He is an interesting character to 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.960 me because he knows, like all the scars bros know 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.360 that they're so good looking, so hot, you gotta be different, 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:08.360 and then they always play the weirdest, wackiest characters. He 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.440 also played Nosferatu or is that Bill? I don't know. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.720 One of them played the clown in it. That's Bill. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.719 It's just like, why can't we just see their faces? 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.400 They don't want to show their faces. Well. Alexander Skarsgard 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.520 though Big Little Lives, I mean, he was abusive in that, 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:22.800 but he had a lot of sexy and he was 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.839 a success Succession, and he was in Pillion, which came 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:27.679 out this year, which also has a lot of sex. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.160 So maybe he's just in his sexy ear ear maybe. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.000 And he's also in True Blood, which has some of 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.000 the craziest sex scenes of our time, Like vampire sex 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.560 is on another level. Yeah, that's true, that's true. But 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.440 I do feel like this film it's a bit of 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:44.680 a reverse of the traditional male gaze because it's like 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.120 this woman just specifically goes this guy and he's like 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.400 a made to order man, and everyone's got a problem 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.960 with it. Everyone's got a problem with it. But I 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.320 think from the trailer it's like he's meant to be 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.520 like sexy. Like I think the writers of this movie 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.960 were like, we want to make him like what every 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.120 woman wants. Yeah, and it's mainly because he just gives 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.200 her attention, honestly. Yeah, and because we know Alexander Scar's 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:09.960 gud's under there. We know he's somewhere under there, and 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.440 it's all practical effects. Yeah. But this brings us to 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:17.239 why we're doing today's episode. Yes, so we're doing today's 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:21.040 episode because all everyone's talking about is this trailer, So 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.200 we want to talk about the movies and TV shows 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.480 that has an unlikely sexy person that we just became 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:32.240 obsessed with, so a character that the writers were like, Oh, no, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.159 one's really going to care about this person or find 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.200 this person hot, and the audience went the complete other way, 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.719 and we're like, no, this person is the hot one, 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.880 either the audience or just us or just us? Oh 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.279 why do you have just you? No? I have one 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.039 that I actually think a lot of people do find attractive, 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:48.840 but I have a reason why they shouldn't. But then 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.440 I still do. It's a bit of Okay, do you 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.200 want to go first? Oh, okay, I can go first. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.080 So I'll start with one that I have spoken about 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.040 this movie on this fill once before, but I haven't 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.599 like deep dived into this character. And the reason I 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.760 spoke about it was actually in a rap that we 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.760 did on Valentine's Day of like movies that will stop 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.120 you texting your toxic x. Oh. But my reason for 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.839 including this was because there's like a really hot character 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.560 in this and this character just reminds me to never settle, Like, 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.599 to be honest, he's so hot. Really. It's Diego from 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.800 Ice Age, the Sabertooth Tiger. I know I'm not the 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:24.839 only one. There's a strong community out there that feels 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.599 this way. He is hot, he's strong, he's a bit aggressive. Yeah, 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.400 he protects his family. He does. And I mean, if 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:32.960 you haven't seen ice age hard to help you. But 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.760 it's basically a mammothy, sloth and a sabertoothed tiger, all 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.600 extinct animals. So Diego prehistoric wouldn't be here, he wouldn't 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.159 be here today, but they all Gone's little adventure to 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.680 return a human baby to its family. Diego is voiced 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.479 by Dennis Leary. And yeah, he's so gruff. He's like 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.320 this loyal protector. I think he has a lot in 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.720 common with Hugh Grant, with the whole like grumpy hot 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.359 kind of vibe. Oh yeah, okay, I see that. Like 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.760 if you Grant had more of like a body for hunting, 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.919 I feel like, I wonder if you're just like Diego, 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:07.040 because the other characters have zero sex appeal, the mammoth 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.680 and the sloth. Maybe maybe it's a comparison thing, but 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:15.480 so he initially works for this pack of other sabretooth tigers, 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.720 and his mission is initially to retrieve the human baby 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.240 and kill it as a revenge against the humans. Can't 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.120 remember what the humans into them, but they're mad. Yeah, 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.080 probably hunting them. So humans do a lot of shitty 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.840 things to animals, so it probably is fair. Yeah, animals 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.280 taking revenge is crazy. I know, like that really start now. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.320 I feel like we didn't really dive into that storyline 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.440 in ice Age enough. I honestly kind of forgot about it, 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.240 And then in researching this, I was like, oh, yeah, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.680 that's what he was doing, yeah, for revenge. But then 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.640 he spends time with the mammoth and sloth, and he 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:44.960 develops a conscience and he kind of like feels affectionately 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.400 towards the baby. So the baby is really cute. The 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.920 baby's really cute, and he's really character with the baby. Yeah, 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.160 so I've written down hot things about him in bullet 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:58.520 points just to you so much. So he's sarcastic in 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.240 sense of humor. Yeah, you're like that, except sometimes you 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.080 don't really understand sarcasm, So I don't know if that 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:08.960 will work well with you. Is okay? Okay? He's confident, Yes, 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.640 he is, like emotionally confident. He's a bit like a 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.120 dark character that's like in the shadows. I think he 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.880 like brings like yeah, I think you're right. He like 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.720 comes out more confident. He's emotionally detached, which we all 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.280 love a bit of like a bad boy, you know, 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.680 but like ultimately he'll put himself on the line for 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:29.880 his friends. This is crazinessless dry sense of humor, especially 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.600 when dealing with the sloth. Oh yeah yeah, and I 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.480 kind of find this hot. But this is also problematic. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.800 But he gets very defensive when anyone notices his vulnerabilities, 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.800 Like he's a cat, so he's scared of water. But 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.480 then when people call him out on him, he's like, no, 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:47.319 like I'm not scared. I'm not scared. So does that okay? 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.760 So a liar. I was trying to see if the 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.600 writers of the show have said anything about what they 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.760 intended for the character of why people find him hot. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.880 I couldn't find a credible interview where they discuss people 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.600 finding him sexually attractive. But they talk a lot about 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.880 the contrast, like he's meant to be this tough guy 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.960 who has a lot of heart, like the gruff guy 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.280 with a heart of gold. Dennis Leary, who's the guy 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.079 who voiced it, He said before that Diego was based 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.800 on his personality, and he said quote unquote good looking, 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:21.040 feared by men, adored by women. Ah, well he said 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.960 that about himself. Yeah, that's so allegedly it's that's something 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.880 Dieger would not say though. But I do think I 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.480 don't think he really understands his character. Maybe he doesn't, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.600 but I do think his voice is quite sexy, Like 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.080 it's a very low sexy. Yeah. Well he's like, yeah, 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.559 tiger lion thing. Yeah, he really like personifies that. And 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.840 I feel like he is like the quiet, mysterious guy 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:44.880 at the bar that maybe doesn't say too much to 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.720 begin with, but like the few words that he says 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.720 just yeah, and he's always drinking like a whiskey, yes, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.160 an adult drink. So yeah, I think a lot of 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:54.880 it with him for me comes down to the physical. 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.319 I mean, I know he's a tiger, but if you 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.920 just tell he's in good shape, he has beautiful green eyes, 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:04.959 he's really the I can fix him demographic judging me 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.400 so much. And also if you're one of those girls 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.320 who likes a maternal guy, like you see a guy 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:12.920 like this isn't really for me, but like if you 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:14.320 see a guy with a kid, you know how some 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.200 people like to see that and they're like, oh my god. Yeah, 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.600 Dylf kind of has that energy. Like there's this scene 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.560 where he tries to play Peek a Boo with the baby, 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.920 very cute. At the end, him and the baby have 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.079 a really good relationships. So like if you like that 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.240 kind of like Daddy's home sort He's like the kind 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.480 of dad that will like put his kid into sport 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.760 immediately and then be mad if he doesn't take to it. Yeah, 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:36.600 so problem. It kind of reminds me of Coach Bolton 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:41.800 in high school musical. So that's a wild parallel. Yeah, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.240 I kind of I know, be like no no musicals. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.320 But at the end of the day, he loves his son. 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.800 He just wants you to get you in the game. Yeah, exactly. 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:52.720 So yeah, that is my first one, and I feel 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.920 like that's very long running for me since childhood. But wow, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.080 you never thought that like this would ever leave your system. 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.760 He's just always been there. Yeah, He's just always been there. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.840 So yeah, doa go from Ice Age. Honestly, if you 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.440 haven't watched Ice Age in a while, just watch all 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.760 of them. Great movies are like a million now, there's 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.400 so many. I don't even know if I've seen all 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.360 of them, but the first few I'm pretty sure they're 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.960 in like a phase where like they wouldn't even exist now, 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.360 like because they just go through the like periods. Right, 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.160 I thought you meant those characters now. I'm like, yeah, 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.560 we don't have Mammoth now. But literally, I'm like, I 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.120 feel like now they're like near the dinosaur period. I'm like, 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:25.800 I don't know if you were guys were kicking it 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.160 during Jurassic I feel like they toy with like because also, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.440 why was the human baby out there? Yeah, they take liberty. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.000 It's very confusing, but I guess watch it fun. Yeah, 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:41.960 for historical accuracy. Okay, I want to go next. My 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.280 person and I want to talk about it's a person. 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:49.520 It's a person, Yes, a live human man. We're kind 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.520 of kind of if he's got like mythical powers. I 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:58.840 would say, Okay from the Avengers, Okay, low key, Oh okay, 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.400 I feel like this. People do think this. Ah, he's 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.920 so hot, so low key, and I'm talking about the 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.120 first Avengers movie. He's always like a side character in 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.520 the thor movies, but the Avengers movies he's like the 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:13.960 number one villain and he is so hot. So he's 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:18.080 like a trickster. He's the brother of Thor. He is 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:22.360 destroying New York City. He's destroying the friendship of the Avengers, 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.800 which is very very important. He's meant to be like 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.760 the bad bad guy. They've also like in this movie, 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.280 didn't set him up to be like hero esque or 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.280 to have this like likable kind of personality. He's like 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.480 more scrawny than the others. He's always wearing like black. 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.800 He's got like sleek, long black hair. He's very pale. 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.560 I feel like he would kind of thrive in like Melbourne, 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.360 like that lengthy kind of guy. Yeah, he's got a cat, 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.880 maybe more than you. He plays. Or he'd be like 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.559 someone who just always goes to like the Mona Museum. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.000 He's just always he's on the fairy. He's the one 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.880 who like charters people across on the fairy. He's a 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:03.200 duck mofo dark. Myfoone would be his jam yea. So 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.280 he's like the villain in the movie. He like kind 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.240 of like has an okay ending in that movie, but 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.880 then from there he does like other movies within the 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.480 Marvel universe. I don't know if the writers expected this, 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.959 but when this ended. The amount of fan fiction, both 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:25.560 written and artworks that came just about Loki was so 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.840 insane that like, since that movie, every movie he's been in, 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.800 he's been more and more of a main character. And 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.120 then he ended up getting quite a like redeeming story 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.280 arc to the point where Marvel gave him his own 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.720 spin off show called Loki and it is their most 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:46.280 successful spinoff show from Marvel. Wow. So the fans really 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.480 had an impact. Yeah, And I think it comes back 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.320 to our discussion of like, if you want your movie 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.360 to sell out, and make it a movie for women. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.200 And we talk about all the time how everyone thinks 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.040 Marvel and like superhero movies are just for boys and men, 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.320 but it's not. Every time I go there's so many 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.760 women in the crowds, Like they have such a large 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.439 women's fan base, and it's all these women who have 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:10.720 made all of this like quite salacious fan fiction of him, 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:15.120 and like with Avenger members who are also men, And 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.640 it's just like one of those characters that when I 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:19.800 watched that movie for the first time, I was like, 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.160 there's something about him, and I think it's a few 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.680 of the things you said, like he's deeply sarcastic, like 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.800 he's the one that kind of without breaking the fourth wall, 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.960 he kind of calls him out on like their like 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.440 whole like we can do it, guys, if we just 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.080 band together, we can save the world. And he's kind 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.000 of just like, how are you talking about? Yeah, He's like, 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.200 are you serious? And the TV show Loki is a 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.120 bit darker, so it's more like that where he's kind 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.800 of like, not, well, we're just gonna die. Let's just 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.560 like realize that. I feel like the lesson here is that, like, 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.080 if you want to see a spin off show one 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:56.640 of your favorite characters, start writing smut, Yes, start writing smut, 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.680 and then also like your show like some to Wicker, 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.840 Like Wicker was like a short story yeah, and like 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.000 that just became a full movie. And I'm like, I 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:07.880 feel like so much, so much smart gets made into 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.000 movies and TV shows now. I mean, fifty Shades of 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.840 Gray started as Twilight. There was a whole legal thing 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.920 about that cash those checks. Girls, Get in there, get 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.280 out that old tumblow account, Get out with your quill 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.840 in the paper. We've got some work to do. Emily 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:26.240 fronting style. Okay, So my next one is I'm not 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.560 gonna says it's controversial to find him hot because he 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.200 is a leading man, and I assume they did want 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.360 him to appeal to women. But he's also not really 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.920 like like the typical hot guy. I feel like he's 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.640 more of a dorky guy and but like, so I 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.360 have reasons why he shouldn't be hot, but then he is. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.840 So it's Ted Moseby from How I Met Your Mother? 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:49.240 Stop rolling your eyes with me. Uh, he's such a 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.880 wet blanket. He has a bit of a wet blanket. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.720 So I feel like he's just because he's like a 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.360 what is he an a believer? 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:04.280 No, what you're going to say the architect actually was. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:10.960 I thought you were gonna be believe. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:16.160 No. So he's definitely not written as the sexy guy. No, 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.360 how about your mother. He's like really dorky, really overly romantic, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.520 and the show really leans into that, Like, obviously Barney 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.200 is meant to be like the sexy one getting all 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.360 the women. I also wrote a list of all the 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.400 very non sexy things that he did in the show. Yeah, 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.640 he's always like, well, there's like the good guy, like Ted, 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.120 you're such a good guy. Yeah, you're such a great guy. 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:34.720 I don't know why you're not getting a girlfriend. He 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.560 got such a great personality, but he was a bit 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.600 of a dick. He did have dick moments. He also 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.200 has moments. So he says I love you on the 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.400 first date to Robin, which I just thought was the 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.240 alto Initially. He falls in love with like basically every 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.640 woman who speaks to him, and he does tell everyone 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:55.000 that he's an architect within like thirty three years. Yeah, 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.240 so why do you like him? So I'm getting to 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.200 why I thought I was gonna have to justify why 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.600 people don't find him hot. But you're like non So 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:05.760 the reason that I find him hot more as an 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.239 older person is you've actually written about this about not 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.879 liking Nonchalant. He's a chalant man. Yeah, he's very chalant. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.280 You almost couldn't get more chalant. That's so true. He's 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.520 a grand gesture guy. He loves a spectacle. He steals 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.720 the blue French horn for Robin. That's so true. He 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.600 always has these really elaborate dates. And remember when Robin 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.080 was really sad and he lit up her apartment in 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.679 Christmas lights and had this whole like music timed with 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.760 the fairy lights thing going. He also when he was 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.879 dating the single mom Stella and she was like, I 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.080 don't have time for you, he made a two minute 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:40.960 date with like heaps of different little Oh my god, 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.080 I did love that episode. That was so fun. That's Schalance. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.520 He also is a very good friend, like he does 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:47.919 this for all the women, but he also does it 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.400 for all his friends like Marshall and Lily and Barney 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.679 as well. Although I think I would get over him 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.359 if I was dating him, like living with them and 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.000 they're like engage, I'd like, move out, move out to 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.000 get your own I hear an architect. I don't know architects, 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:04.720 hold your own place, design it design, I know you can. Well. 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.280 I do think being an Arctic is also kind of 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.800 a hot profession because it's like design New York, right, Yeah, 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.040 like skyscraper is like I feel like it's got that 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.919 creativity but the potential to make money, which most creative 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:17.920 jobs don't really have it. It was like the whole 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.119 thing about his job is that he's constantly trying to 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:23.440 get like these big, big like building projects, and then 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.639 something always like ruins it for him. But then in 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.040 the end he ends up becoming very successful. Yeah, and 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.240 he also becomes a professor for a while and hes 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:31.920 a lot of try a bit of a spell the 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.159 word professor. Yeah, that's a bit of a nick. But 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.320 I think the professor concept is hot, like, yeah, professor, 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.639 I don't know. So I also think a lot of 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.040 this just comes down to the fact that I find 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.399 Josh Radnor just so great and inter use the guy 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.000 who plays Ted. He I feel like is Ted Mosby 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.480 all the good characteristics but without all the of the 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.520 that's so true. He's very low key in real life. 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:57.119 He had like a gorgeous winter New York wedding and 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.480 I didn't know. Yeah, and I think that will prepar photos. 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.880 I don't know, but the photos were beautiful. Wait who 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.080 did he marry? I don't know. Not important, not important. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.480 I think the writers as well have sort of talked 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.000 about how he's that really like imperfect romantic lead, Like 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.240 he's not the typical guy you know that's gonna be 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.840 like the one, but he in some ways is what 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.280 women want because he is very vulnerable. He's not scared 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.640 to wear his heart on his sleeve. And I think 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.240 the contrast with Barney does a lot for him as well. 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.960 And being that's so true. He needed like a Barney 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.000 to like offset him, to show that he is like 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.680 the good guy of the show. And I do think 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.440 like his character only works in a TV show because 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.720 you have to warm to him, or in a movie 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.600 absolutely not, absolutely not, you'd be like, what the hell 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.159 is this loser of a guy? He'd be like the 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.679 weird side character like Kirk and Gilmore Girls. He'd be 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:50.600 like the weird look he's doing just trying to make 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:55.280 a skyscraper. Yeah, but no, I yeah, actually you've convinced me. Yeah, 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.719 I see your point. I don't go watch Somehow Your 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.160