1 00:00:10,614 --> 00:00:15,294 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mumma Mea podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges 2 00:00:15,334 --> 00:00:18,134 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,214 --> 00:00:18,894 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,574 --> 00:00:24,774 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Straano. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily 5 00:00:24,774 --> 00:00:28,694 Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie. For decades, Harrod's was known as 6 00:00:28,774 --> 00:00:33,254 Speaker 2: the world's most famous department store, but behind its luxurious facade, 7 00:00:33,334 --> 00:00:35,934 Speaker 2: hundreds of women say a dark secret was hiding in 8 00:00:36,054 --> 00:00:40,054 Speaker 2: plain sight. Today we investigate the disturbing allegations against the 9 00:00:40,134 --> 00:00:43,454 Speaker 2: man who once owned it all. But first, here's Clare Murphy. 10 00:00:43,494 --> 00:00:47,334 Speaker 2: We're the latest from the Quickie newsroom for Wednesday, March twelve. 11 00:00:47,294 --> 00:00:50,294 Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. With rain easing in flood hit areas of 12 00:00:50,334 --> 00:00:54,214 Speaker 1: southeast Queensland and northern New South Wales, residents are returning 13 00:00:54,254 --> 00:00:56,694 Speaker 1: home to clean up and salvage what they can from 14 00:00:56,694 --> 00:00:59,974 Speaker 1: the floodwater. Power is still cut off for around eighty 15 00:01:00,014 --> 00:01:02,974 Speaker 1: five thousand homes and dozens of warnings remain in place 16 00:01:03,014 --> 00:01:06,294 Speaker 1: across the region, with some areas still cut off as 17 00:01:06,374 --> 00:01:09,174 Speaker 1: recovery efforts begin in those suburbs and towns where the 18 00:01:09,214 --> 00:01:13,014 Speaker 1: water has subsided. The storm has also exposed an issue 19 00:01:13,014 --> 00:01:15,734 Speaker 1: in Lismore, an area that has been hit by repeat 20 00:01:15,774 --> 00:01:18,854 Speaker 1: flooding in recent years. The government has brought back some 21 00:01:19,014 --> 00:01:21,294 Speaker 1: homes that were built on the floodplaine, but in the 22 00:01:21,374 --> 00:01:24,694 Speaker 1: year since the previous event, rough sleepers have moved in 23 00:01:24,774 --> 00:01:27,374 Speaker 1: New South Wales. Premier Chris Minn says they were mostly 24 00:01:27,414 --> 00:01:31,014 Speaker 1: overseas visitors, tourists and backpackers, but those who live there 25 00:01:31,014 --> 00:01:33,294 Speaker 1: claim they're actually the people at the forefront of the 26 00:01:33,374 --> 00:01:37,414 Speaker 1: nation's housing crisis and have no intention of leaving. As 27 00:01:37,414 --> 00:01:39,734 Speaker 1: Australia waits to hear when we'll finally go to the 28 00:01:39,734 --> 00:01:42,654 Speaker 1: polls for the federal election, Labour has taken a slim 29 00:01:42,734 --> 00:01:45,774 Speaker 1: lead over the Coalition in the latest polling. The Roy 30 00:01:45,814 --> 00:01:49,014 Speaker 1: Morgan Pole, which asked Australians their preferences during the last 31 00:01:49,014 --> 00:01:52,374 Speaker 1: week of February, puts Labour on fifty one point five 32 00:01:52,414 --> 00:01:55,694 Speaker 1: percent compared to the coalition's forty eight point five two 33 00:01:55,734 --> 00:01:59,334 Speaker 1: party preferred a two point rise for the Albanese government 34 00:01:59,454 --> 00:02:02,094 Speaker 1: and a two point drop for the Liberal National Coalition. 35 00:02:02,534 --> 00:02:04,974 Speaker 1: The Prime Minister said he would not be picking April 36 00:02:05,014 --> 00:02:07,974 Speaker 1: twelve for us to cast our votes, focusing instead on 37 00:02:08,054 --> 00:02:11,814 Speaker 1: ex tropical cyclone Outflas and its aftermath The federal budget 38 00:02:11,814 --> 00:02:14,174 Speaker 1: will now go ahead on March twenty five, with the 39 00:02:14,214 --> 00:02:17,654 Speaker 1: election date expected to be called after that. Wall Street 40 00:02:17,734 --> 00:02:20,814 Speaker 1: has taken a dive with US President Donald Trump's tariff 41 00:02:20,854 --> 00:02:24,654 Speaker 1: war escalating. Trump, who placed a twenty five percent taroff 42 00:02:24,654 --> 00:02:27,694 Speaker 1: on all steel and aluminium products coming in from Canada, 43 00:02:27,894 --> 00:02:31,574 Speaker 1: doubled that to fifty percent after Canada retaliated with a 44 00:02:31,614 --> 00:02:34,574 Speaker 1: twenty five percent tariff on energy it provides to several 45 00:02:34,694 --> 00:02:37,774 Speaker 1: US states. Global markets have been in free fall since 46 00:02:37,814 --> 00:02:42,134 Speaker 1: the fighting began, Analysts warning this mite fan inflationary pressures 47 00:02:42,174 --> 00:02:45,654 Speaker 1: and stall economic growth. Tesla scheres, which had dropped a 48 00:02:45,654 --> 00:02:49,854 Speaker 1: massive fifteen percent. The dive attributed to several factors, one 49 00:02:49,934 --> 00:02:53,174 Speaker 1: being backlashed from customers who are unhappy with Tesla boss 50 00:02:53,214 --> 00:02:56,534 Speaker 1: Elon Musk's new political role in the Trump administration and 51 00:02:56,654 --> 00:02:59,734 Speaker 1: him performing a Nazi salute during a Trump rally did 52 00:02:59,814 --> 00:03:02,814 Speaker 1: manage to claw back almost one percent of that overnight. 53 00:03:03,614 --> 00:03:06,774 Speaker 1: One of the first Australians to be diagnosed with HIV 54 00:03:07,014 --> 00:03:10,294 Speaker 1: has passed away, Remembered for his tire life commitment to 55 00:03:10,334 --> 00:03:14,054 Speaker 1: helping treat the virus. David Poulson was infected during the 56 00:03:14,054 --> 00:03:16,974 Speaker 1: height of the HIV crisis in the nineteen eighties when 57 00:03:17,014 --> 00:03:20,454 Speaker 1: he was just twenty nine. Since then, he's participated in 58 00:03:20,574 --> 00:03:23,974 Speaker 1: twenty eight clinical trials to help find treatments and cures 59 00:03:23,974 --> 00:03:27,094 Speaker 1: for the virus, the most undertaken by a person living 60 00:03:27,094 --> 00:03:30,294 Speaker 1: with the illness in the world. He also founded Qutopia, 61 00:03:30,374 --> 00:03:33,534 Speaker 1: Sydney's Queer Museum, which is now the world's largest center 62 00:03:33,614 --> 00:03:36,614 Speaker 1: for queer history and culture and includes exhibits on the 63 00:03:36,854 --> 00:03:39,814 Speaker 1: HIV journey in Australia. David was seventy. 64 00:03:40,134 --> 00:03:42,854 Speaker 2: That's what's happening in the world today. Next. Muhammed al 65 00:03:42,894 --> 00:03:46,694 Speaker 2: Fayed ran Harrod's, the upmarket London department store for twenty 66 00:03:46,694 --> 00:03:49,934 Speaker 2: five years, but now nearly two years on from his death, 67 00:03:50,134 --> 00:03:52,454 Speaker 2: many of those who worked for him have revealed that 68 00:03:52,494 --> 00:03:55,214 Speaker 2: it was a twenty five year reign of terror with 69 00:03:55,294 --> 00:04:04,694 Speaker 2: accusations of sexual assault. For many of us, our only 70 00:04:04,774 --> 00:04:07,214 Speaker 2: knowledge of Muhammed al Fayed was that he was the 71 00:04:07,254 --> 00:04:10,054 Speaker 2: father of Dodi al Fayed, the man who was dating 72 00:04:10,094 --> 00:04:12,654 Speaker 2: the late Princess Diana and who was with her when 73 00:04:12,654 --> 00:04:15,214 Speaker 2: they both died in a car accident in the tunnel 74 00:04:15,254 --> 00:04:19,254 Speaker 2: in Paris. While being chased by the paparazzi. He was 75 00:04:19,254 --> 00:04:22,254 Speaker 2: featured in a season of the popular TV series The Crown, 76 00:04:22,614 --> 00:04:26,254 Speaker 2: depicted as an entrepreneur, an eccentric, wealthy man obsessed with 77 00:04:26,334 --> 00:04:28,814 Speaker 2: becoming a part of London's elite society. 78 00:04:29,214 --> 00:04:33,054 Speaker 3: With your head, they would become the Thrier thing, a 79 00:04:33,174 --> 00:04:34,374 Speaker 3: British gentleman. 80 00:04:34,734 --> 00:04:38,494 Speaker 2: But in recent months, shocking allegations have surfaced against the 81 00:04:38,534 --> 00:04:41,894 Speaker 2: late Muhammad al Fayed, the former owner of the iconic 82 00:04:41,934 --> 00:04:46,134 Speaker 2: London department store Harod's. Dozens of women have come forward 83 00:04:46,134 --> 00:04:49,734 Speaker 2: accusing him of sexual assault and rape during his tenure 84 00:04:49,734 --> 00:04:52,174 Speaker 2: as the head of the store from nineteen eighty five 85 00:04:52,254 --> 00:04:56,534 Speaker 2: to twenty ten. The disturbing claims led to a reevaluation 86 00:04:56,614 --> 00:05:00,654 Speaker 2: of Alphayed's legacy, raising questions about the culture of silence 87 00:05:00,774 --> 00:05:05,374 Speaker 2: and fear that allowed such abuse to persist. The accusations 88 00:05:05,374 --> 00:05:08,894 Speaker 2: against al Fayed were first highlighted in a BBC documentary 89 00:05:08,934 --> 00:05:13,654 Speaker 2: titled alph Predator at Harod's. It revealed that twenty women 90 00:05:13,694 --> 00:05:17,774 Speaker 2: alleged he had assaulted them at various locations including Harod's, 91 00:05:17,854 --> 00:05:22,294 Speaker 2: Fulham f C and the Ritz Hotel in Paris. Since then, 92 00:05:22,374 --> 00:05:25,974 Speaker 2: the number of individuals coming forward has grown significantly, with 93 00:05:26,134 --> 00:05:29,654 Speaker 2: lawyers now in contact with over four hundred people who 94 00:05:29,734 --> 00:05:31,734 Speaker 2: either claimed to have been a victim of al Fayed 95 00:05:32,014 --> 00:05:35,854 Speaker 2: or who witnessed his behavior. But the allegations of abuse 96 00:05:35,894 --> 00:05:39,734 Speaker 2: extend beyond al Fayed himself. In a shocking development, his 97 00:05:39,854 --> 00:05:43,174 Speaker 2: brother Ali Fayed, has also been accused of sexual assault 98 00:05:43,214 --> 00:05:47,094 Speaker 2: by three former Harod's employees. These women claim the assaults 99 00:05:47,094 --> 00:05:51,774 Speaker 2: took place in various locations including London, Scotland, Switzerland, and 100 00:05:51,854 --> 00:05:54,814 Speaker 2: the United States, during the period where the department store 101 00:05:54,934 --> 00:05:59,094 Speaker 2: was owned by the brothers. This follows earlier accusations against 102 00:05:59,134 --> 00:06:02,894 Speaker 2: another brother, the late Salafayed, who was accused of assaulting 103 00:06:02,934 --> 00:06:05,454 Speaker 2: three women during the period where he jointly owned the 104 00:06:05,494 --> 00:06:09,214 Speaker 2: store with Muhammed. One woman claims she was raped after 105 00:06:09,214 --> 00:06:14,174 Speaker 2: being rugged by Salafayed. One of the accusers, identified as Natcha, 106 00:06:14,254 --> 00:06:18,494 Speaker 2: described Muhammed al Fayed as extremely manipulative, claiming that he 107 00:06:18,614 --> 00:06:23,014 Speaker 2: targeted vulnerable individuals, like those who were struggling financially or 108 00:06:23,054 --> 00:06:26,134 Speaker 2: who didn't have the support of their parents or extended family. 109 00:06:26,774 --> 00:06:30,134 Speaker 2: This pattern of exploitation is echoed by many other women 110 00:06:30,174 --> 00:06:34,214 Speaker 2: who've since spoken out. In a recent episode of sixty Minutes, 111 00:06:34,254 --> 00:06:38,214 Speaker 2: Australia journalist Tara Brown and producer and Worthington delved into 112 00:06:38,214 --> 00:06:41,054 Speaker 2: the harrowing stories of women who were targeted and attacked 113 00:06:41,094 --> 00:06:44,574 Speaker 2: by al Fayed. The program highlighted the fear and isolation 114 00:06:44,734 --> 00:06:48,334 Speaker 2: that characterized the work environment under his leadership, As and 115 00:06:48,534 --> 00:06:52,014 Speaker 2: Worthington noted, most of these women have been silent for decades. 116 00:06:52,574 --> 00:06:55,254 Speaker 2: Many of them left feeling like what they experienced was 117 00:06:55,374 --> 00:06:56,654 Speaker 2: only happening to them. 118 00:06:56,974 --> 00:06:59,374 Speaker 3: The fact that they've started to come together, that courage 119 00:06:59,374 --> 00:07:03,254 Speaker 3: that they've seen in other women has been contagious, and 120 00:07:03,614 --> 00:07:06,054 Speaker 3: coming together has given them that strength to speak out. 121 00:07:06,094 --> 00:07:11,014 Speaker 2: Finally, the women interviewed by Sixty Minutes described a culture 122 00:07:11,094 --> 00:07:15,734 Speaker 2: of surveillance and control where phones and apartments were allegedly 123 00:07:15,774 --> 00:07:19,134 Speaker 2: bugged and employees were discouraged from speaking to each other. 124 00:07:19,654 --> 00:07:23,734 Speaker 2: This created an environment where victims felt trapped, unable to speak, 125 00:07:23,854 --> 00:07:26,414 Speaker 2: and in some cases, unable to escape. 126 00:07:26,534 --> 00:07:28,814 Speaker 3: He sent security team to pick me up. He had 127 00:07:28,854 --> 00:07:30,494 Speaker 3: to stop to phone me and tell me that I'd 128 00:07:30,494 --> 00:07:32,454 Speaker 3: lost my mind and that I needed to come back 129 00:07:32,494 --> 00:07:35,094 Speaker 3: for medical help. I ended up having to move house 130 00:07:35,134 --> 00:07:37,934 Speaker 3: and change my phone number and sell my car just 131 00:07:37,974 --> 00:07:39,654 Speaker 3: to get rid of him. 132 00:07:39,854 --> 00:07:42,854 Speaker 2: Australian woman Anne Marie Crook, who was just twenty one, 133 00:07:42,894 --> 00:07:46,014 Speaker 2: when she moved from Canberra to London. Revealed how it 134 00:07:46,094 --> 00:07:49,574 Speaker 2: seemed like a dream job opportunity turned into a nightmare, 135 00:07:49,934 --> 00:07:52,334 Speaker 2: from working on the shop floor to being scouted by 136 00:07:52,374 --> 00:07:55,734 Speaker 2: al Fayed and then promote it to his personal assistant. 137 00:07:56,294 --> 00:07:59,414 Speaker 2: The grooming process allegedly began with what was presented as 138 00:07:59,454 --> 00:08:05,454 Speaker 2: a workplace perk, a medical examination, but as Anne Marie 139 00:08:05,494 --> 00:08:09,014 Speaker 2: and another Australian woman, Kim would later discover, these weren't 140 00:08:09,094 --> 00:08:11,654 Speaker 2: routine checks at all. It was an office job. 141 00:08:11,694 --> 00:08:16,134 Speaker 3: They didn't need to know my STD profile, they didn't 142 00:08:16,214 --> 00:08:18,534 Speaker 3: need to do a hormone check, they didn't need to 143 00:08:18,574 --> 00:08:19,334 Speaker 3: do a swab. 144 00:08:19,814 --> 00:08:22,774 Speaker 2: That had absolutely nothing to do with what I was 145 00:08:22,774 --> 00:08:27,094 Speaker 2: doing on a daily basis. The pattern was disturbingly consistent. 146 00:08:27,374 --> 00:08:31,014 Speaker 2: Women were offered career advancement, money and presence, but the 147 00:08:31,054 --> 00:08:35,374 Speaker 2: situation would quickly escalate to alleged assault. Kim claimed that 148 00:08:35,454 --> 00:08:37,774 Speaker 2: she was attacked up to two to three times a 149 00:08:37,814 --> 00:08:42,174 Speaker 2: week in Alphayed's office. What's particularly shocking is the scale 150 00:08:42,174 --> 00:08:46,374 Speaker 2: of these allegations. Barrista Maria Muller, representing the Justice for 151 00:08:46,494 --> 00:08:49,694 Speaker 2: Harod's survivor's legal team, is currently working with more than 152 00:08:49,734 --> 00:08:53,334 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty survivors with alleged abuse spanning from 153 00:08:53,334 --> 00:08:56,134 Speaker 2: the late eighties to just past twenty ten. 154 00:08:56,614 --> 00:08:59,214 Speaker 3: Muhammad al Fayed was one of the most powerful men 155 00:08:59,374 --> 00:09:01,774 Speaker 3: in the world and and what people really need to 156 00:09:01,854 --> 00:09:05,694 Speaker 3: know is that whatever Muhammad al Fayed wanted, he got. 157 00:09:06,614 --> 00:09:09,254 Speaker 2: But what about the state of Harod's now? The current 158 00:09:09,294 --> 00:09:12,694 Speaker 2: owner have issued an apology, stating that they're deeply shocked 159 00:09:12,734 --> 00:09:15,974 Speaker 2: by the allegations and acknowledging that the store had failed 160 00:09:16,014 --> 00:09:20,094 Speaker 2: its employees during al Fayed's tenure. But for many survivors, 161 00:09:20,174 --> 00:09:23,974 Speaker 2: this acknowledgment comes far too late. The trauma they endured 162 00:09:24,014 --> 00:09:27,054 Speaker 2: behind the glamorous facade of one of London's most famous 163 00:09:27,094 --> 00:09:31,934 Speaker 2: department stores has left lasting scars. Their stories serve as 164 00:09:31,934 --> 00:09:34,894 Speaker 2: a stark reminder of how wealth and power can be 165 00:09:34,934 --> 00:09:40,734 Speaker 2: wielded to enable decades of abuse. The London Metropolitan Police 166 00:09:40,774 --> 00:09:44,814 Speaker 2: are now under pressure to investigate cases that were previously dismissed. 167 00:09:45,134 --> 00:09:48,414 Speaker 2: They're reportedly looking into twenty one cases that were reported 168 00:09:48,494 --> 00:09:52,454 Speaker 2: before al Fayed's death, and are now investigating five individuals 169 00:09:52,494 --> 00:09:55,614 Speaker 2: who may have enabled his abuse. This is a developing 170 00:09:55,694 --> 00:09:58,574 Speaker 2: story and were sure to bring you more as it unfolds. 171 00:09:59,174 --> 00:10:01,014 Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time to feed your mind with 172 00:10:01,094 --> 00:10:03,894 Speaker 2: us today. The quickie is produced by me Taylor Strano, 173 00:10:03,974 --> 00:10:07,054 Speaker 2: and Clare Murphy, with audio production by Leu Hill 174 00:10:10,134 --> 00:10:12,574 Speaker 3: Pat Pat the doct