WEBVTT - Paul Mescal: Ditching His Dates & That Viral Interview 0:00:11.104 --> 0:00:15.304 So much you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia 0:00:15.464 --> 0:00:19.024 acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this 0:00:19.064 --> 0:00:20.464 podcast is recorded on. 0:00:20.704 --> 0:00:23.144 Hey spillers, you might have noticed that we have started 0:00:23.184 --> 0:00:26.744 sharing with you a few different podcasts on the weekends 0:00:26.744 --> 0:00:28.704 for those of you who are looking for something else 0:00:28.744 --> 0:00:31.024 to listen to. We'll only do it if we know 0:00:31.144 --> 0:00:33.704 it's something that we one hundred percent know you would like. 0:00:34.144 --> 0:00:35.744 We know a lot of you are obsessed with Paul 0:00:35.784 --> 0:00:37.904 Mescal like me, and we're going to give you a 0:00:37.904 --> 0:00:40.424 little more time to watch Gladiator two before we do 0:00:40.504 --> 0:00:43.664 our brutally honest review for the movie next week. What 0:00:43.704 --> 0:00:46.824 you're about to hear is Mamma MIA's comedy podcast canceled 0:00:46.944 --> 0:00:49.944 with a big episode they did on Paul Meschal this week. 0:00:50.144 --> 0:00:53.504 The Cancel Courtroom is pretty much like the coliseum on Gladiator, 0:00:53.824 --> 0:00:56.464 except instead of lions and rhinos, they look at Paul's 0:00:56.504 --> 0:00:59.864 saddest and sexiest moments, so pretty much the same thing. 0:01:00.424 --> 0:01:13.424 Enjoy, Hello, and welcome to Cancel, the Lady Girl's Guide 0:01:13.584 --> 0:01:17.344 Bizarre Celebrity Cancelations. I'm Claire Stevens and I'm joined by 0:01:17.584 --> 0:01:24.984 Jesse Stevens. You are about to enter the canceled courtroom. 0:01:25.704 --> 0:01:32.024 The defendants are celebrities, the charges are petty, the rulings 0:01:32.144 --> 0:01:38.744 are final, and on today's episode we're talking about Paul Methkal. 0:01:39.104 --> 0:01:43.784 Rome has taken everything from me, but I will have 0:01:43.824 --> 0:01:44.624 my vengeance. 0:01:45.464 --> 0:01:49.864 You're always playing such sad, sad characters, but they're also 0:01:50.184 --> 0:01:50.944 they're quite like. 0:01:51.024 --> 0:01:54.464 Sexy, sad sexy sexy specific genre. 0:01:54.584 --> 0:01:56.904 Yeah, I feel like you're really owning the sexy sad genre. 0:01:57.144 --> 0:02:00.984 I like to manipulate the tears out of people with sexiness. 0:02:01.144 --> 0:02:03.264 Is that a big burden to have on your on 0:02:03.264 --> 0:02:05.024 your shoulders, you know, sad and sexy? 0:02:05.104 --> 0:02:06.184 Yeah, a big way to carry. 0:02:06.704 --> 0:02:12.424 No, it's a privilege. I love currically thinking I could 0:02:12.464 --> 0:02:18.624 have a different life put it. Having a bit of 0:02:18.624 --> 0:02:21.104 a background and in Gaelic football. 0:02:21.264 --> 0:02:22.944 Hell yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:02:23.024 --> 0:02:27.344 I think the greatest feeling that any human ever ever 0:02:27.424 --> 0:02:30.264 gets to experience, and to get to play that, like, 0:02:30.344 --> 0:02:32.304 I'll consciously have to be pulled away from that in 0:02:32.304 --> 0:02:33.504 my career, I know, because. 0:02:33.344 --> 0:02:35.984 I love it. He's the start of Gladiator two, which 0:02:36.024 --> 0:02:39.424 comes out very very soon. He's recently been in Australia 0:02:39.424 --> 0:02:42.184 for the premiere and there are many people, including me 0:02:42.384 --> 0:02:45.104 who I'm madly in love with him. However, he is 0:02:45.184 --> 0:02:50.744 not without silly, ridiculous controversy. Now Live James, who works 0:02:51.024 --> 0:02:54.384 in our social team, recently went broke her shoulder. Yeah, 0:02:54.664 --> 0:02:57.264 we'll get to it. She recently went to the Gladiator 0:02:57.304 --> 0:03:02.264 two premiere. Yeah, and she interviewed Paul. And I'm a journalist, 0:03:02.304 --> 0:03:04.424 That's what I am. They call me a spotlight journalist. 0:03:04.504 --> 0:03:07.384 They do like the movie Spotlight. Yep, I'm just like that. 0:03:07.624 --> 0:03:09.944 So what I did I sent Live a message. I 0:03:09.944 --> 0:03:12.464 didn't even approach her in person to center a message 0:03:12.464 --> 0:03:15.144 and said, Hi, Live, what up? I said, you break 0:03:15.144 --> 0:03:18.864 your shoulder? No? I said, what's the vibe? So you 0:03:18.904 --> 0:03:22.944 asked her? You straight up went no, pussy footing No, 0:03:23.344 --> 0:03:26.784 And I said, you met him? Go on, I thumbed up, 0:03:26.864 --> 0:03:30.144 thumbs down. Give it to me, straight unfiltered vibe on 0:03:30.224 --> 0:03:33.504 what Paul Mescal was actually like at the premiere. What 0:03:33.624 --> 0:03:36.664 she say? And she doesn't lie, And I've got no 0:03:36.704 --> 0:03:38.544 reason to light at us. And she has a good 0:03:38.624 --> 0:03:41.104 vibe detector. She does And this is what she said. 0:03:42.104 --> 0:03:44.704 Oh are you actually gonna quote us straight? Yeah? Wow? Okay, 0:03:45.064 --> 0:03:48.864 I spent exactly forty two seconds talking to him, and 0:03:48.904 --> 0:03:51.704 the vibe I got was I'm a regular guy who 0:03:51.744 --> 0:03:54.824 also knows I'm the shit, but I'm also cool because 0:03:54.864 --> 0:03:57.424 I still get a bit shy about it. He was 0:03:57.504 --> 0:04:00.264 so hot in person. Yeah, I get that sense. Not 0:04:00.384 --> 0:04:03.744 as tall as you'd think, but definitely not short. He 0:04:03.944 --> 0:04:07.104 asked how I was twice because we both asked at 0:04:07.144 --> 0:04:09.784 the same time, and he answered but still asked again. 0:04:10.504 --> 0:04:14.144 Its hot, That is hot, loved a cheeky smirk and 0:04:14.224 --> 0:04:18.424 eye contact. The eye contact wasn't constant, but when he did, 0:04:18.624 --> 0:04:20.784 it felt like he was actually locked in and really 0:04:20.824 --> 0:04:24.424 listening and brackets hot. I want to vomit because the 0:04:24.464 --> 0:04:27.144 first word that came to mind was enigma. Ha ha 0:04:27.144 --> 0:04:30.304 ha ha ha. The eye contact was so good I 0:04:30.344 --> 0:04:32.424 was convinced he kind of liked me too, and had 0:04:32.464 --> 0:04:34.304 to look away because he didn't want it to be 0:04:34.384 --> 0:04:42.024 obvious literal insanity. And I said, live live the extent 0:04:42.064 --> 0:04:46.424 to which I understand and all relate. Liv thinks there 0:04:46.504 --> 0:04:50.184 was chemistry. Who are any of us to say there 0:04:50.264 --> 0:04:52.504 was that? She was there, Jesse, tell me about the 0:04:52.504 --> 0:04:56.744 broken shoulder. Do you know about the dissiccated shoulder? I've 0:04:56.784 --> 0:04:59.624 seen as a video of live stacking. Okay, she went 0:04:59.664 --> 0:05:03.264 to the Gladiator premiere. Yeah, she interviews her new boyfriend Paul, 0:05:03.544 --> 0:05:05.544 have a great little chat and then she's like, I've 0:05:05.544 --> 0:05:07.424 got to go and do the intro to just like 0:05:07.464 --> 0:05:09.144 intro it, and I don't know. She falls over and 0:05:09.224 --> 0:05:11.784 page dissipates her shoulderings up in hospital. She's got a 0:05:11.784 --> 0:05:14.944 sling that would have been so cool if she had 0:05:14.944 --> 0:05:16.464 it when she met Paul though, because I reckon he'd 0:05:16.464 --> 0:05:19.144 have asked about it because he'd be like, I also 0:05:19.224 --> 0:05:22.744 get injured from being gladiator. Yeah yeah, okay, Well anyway, 0:05:22.784 --> 0:05:25.744 I just thought i'd enter that into the courtroom for 0:05:25.984 --> 0:05:29.224 vibe purposes, I reckon, for clickbait purposes. She should write 0:05:29.264 --> 0:05:34.384 the article Paul Mescal dislocated my shoulder. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:05:34.584 --> 0:05:38.704 how a night out with Paul Mescal dislocated my shoulder. 0:05:38.744 --> 0:05:45.584 I had a night with poor Mescal. You can date's 0:05:45.624 --> 0:05:51.624 not lying. She's not lying now, Jesse, Paul Colm is it? 0:05:51.704 --> 0:05:59.504 Colml Yeah? Colm, Paul calm my cool Mescal. Where about 0:05:59.544 --> 0:06:04.264 Snylan kill Kenny? I killed Kenny? So he's a real 0:06:04.304 --> 0:06:07.784 Irish Yeah, no, very real Irish. His dad was a 0:06:07.824 --> 0:06:10.784 teacher and his mum was a police woman. Okay, yeah, 0:06:10.824 --> 0:06:14.504 yeah he's real. He's real man Manouth, yeah, man County, 0:06:14.704 --> 0:06:17.224 killed air and his mother was a garter. Yeah, and 0:06:17.264 --> 0:06:19.904 his father was a school sorry killed are killed air. 0:06:20.184 --> 0:06:23.944 His mother's name is dear blah so Irish, so that's 0:06:23.984 --> 0:06:26.744 probably not how you pronounce it. So Irish listeners are 0:06:26.744 --> 0:06:28.544 going to be very upset. And I'm sorry I said 0:06:28.624 --> 0:06:34.784 kil Kenny. That's finely, not a place it's killed. I'm 0:06:34.904 --> 0:06:37.704 just stuck. Don't need to be Irish now, Jesse. He 0:06:37.864 --> 0:06:39.424 is six years younger than us. 0:06:39.784 --> 0:06:40.104 Fuck. 0:06:40.344 --> 0:06:42.584 And when we were in Ireland and we stayed in Shrocock, 0:06:44.664 --> 0:06:48.344 you know who wouldn't know where Sharecock is because everyone 0:06:48.384 --> 0:06:51.584 in Ireland were like, yeah, we're staying in Shricock and 0:06:51.624 --> 0:06:54.504 they were like, no one's heard. Where are the fuck Shricock. 0:06:54.744 --> 0:06:57.544 It's in the bloody middle of Ireland. We did. We 0:06:57.584 --> 0:07:01.904 stayed there because there was a nice house fold cheap anyway. Anyway, 0:07:02.184 --> 0:07:06.504 he's not a massy it's fine. He studied at the 0:07:06.664 --> 0:07:09.904 Lear Academy at Trinity College and he graduated in twenty 0:07:09.944 --> 0:07:15.184 seventeen and he had an agent before graduation. This is 0:07:15.224 --> 0:07:18.024 important because he did some theater. He got offered like 0:07:18.144 --> 0:07:21.904 two plays at once. He's a real actor. He's an actor, 0:07:22.464 --> 0:07:24.384 and we've always said that we believe that theater are 0:07:24.384 --> 0:07:27.664 real actors. Because I got to remember your lie very true. 0:07:27.864 --> 0:07:34.784 He played Jay Gatsby m sexy. Oh okay, a remake. 0:07:35.424 --> 0:07:38.784 We need a remake with Paul starring Paul Great Great 0:07:38.864 --> 0:07:41.304 by twenty nineteen, So just keep in mind he graduated 0:07:41.344 --> 0:07:43.944 in twenty seventeen. By twenty nineteen he was cast in 0:07:43.984 --> 0:07:46.144 Normal People, and man met his moment because I needed 0:07:46.184 --> 0:07:48.984 a little Irish boy, a little Irish boy. He was like, here, 0:07:49.024 --> 0:07:53.744 I am thick tyes. She said, thick Byes. Yeah, we'll 0:07:53.744 --> 0:07:55.944 get to his thick thies. Do you remember his chain? 0:07:56.504 --> 0:07:58.584 I made Luca wear a chain forlack a week. It 0:07:58.664 --> 0:08:01.424 was it actually got really icky. But yeah, he didn't 0:08:01.424 --> 0:08:04.584 look like Paul. No, it wasn't the same. Normal People 0:08:04.624 --> 0:08:07.544 was the mini series based on Sally Rooney's best selling novel, 0:08:07.784 --> 0:08:11.024 and his starred opposite Daisy Edgar Jones. It was gone, 0:08:11.024 --> 0:08:15.344 exy Cornell, I've got it was so sexy. The chain. 0:08:15.824 --> 0:08:20.864 He's five, I don't remember. He's fine so much. You 0:08:20.984 --> 0:08:25.184 will he was absolutely perfect. Normal people were raised In 0:08:25.304 --> 0:08:29.144 twenty twenty Peak Pandemic and he won a BAFT and 0:08:29.184 --> 0:08:31.704 he was nominated for an Emmy. He then had a 0:08:31.784 --> 0:08:35.144 role in The Lost Daughter, which was directed by Maggie 0:08:35.144 --> 0:08:38.224 Gyllenhorn and starred Olivia Coleman. I've had great things. I 0:08:38.224 --> 0:08:41.224 haven't watched. You go watched that. I don't think so 0:08:41.264 --> 0:08:44.744 Olivia Coleman. She's got like two daughters. And Dakota Johnson's 0:08:44.744 --> 0:08:46.504 in it. Oh wait, now I have watched the does 0:08:46.544 --> 0:08:49.144 he play? He's just the little boy. He's just like 0:08:49.184 --> 0:08:51.544 the little British but he might have an Irish aclent 0:08:51.544 --> 0:08:53.384 in it, and he's like a little man who works 0:08:53.384 --> 0:08:55.144 their hangs out with Olivia Coleman for like a day, 0:08:55.224 --> 0:08:57.344 but he's just kind of I remember that there. Yeah, yep, 0:08:57.864 --> 0:08:59.984 he was lovely in that. Then in twenty twenty two, 0:09:00.064 --> 0:09:03.184 he starred in God's Creatures and After Son. I haven't 0:09:03.184 --> 0:09:05.864 seen either, but they have both had excellent reviews and 0:09:05.944 --> 0:09:11.064 I will be watching them in my own color then privately. 0:09:11.384 --> 0:09:14.704 And then he starred in All of Us Strangers opposite 0:09:14.744 --> 0:09:17.904 Andrew Scott aka the Hot Priest and Jesse. You've seen 0:09:17.944 --> 0:09:23.344 the movie. What did you think very I watched on airplane? 0:09:23.464 --> 0:09:26.824 Mm hmm, fucked me up. I didn't make you bad. 0:09:27.184 --> 0:09:33.464 Oh yeah, it's like it is so bleak. Oh but hot, Okay, 0:09:33.784 --> 0:09:36.704 it's hot. Is he sexy? Yeah? Because it's him? Would 0:09:36.704 --> 0:09:38.424 you say the other one and Andrew Scott they're in 0:09:38.424 --> 0:09:43.184 a relationship, so it's hard. Yeah, and poor med School's 0:09:43.184 --> 0:09:45.904 really hot yeah, and together they're quite It's just like 0:09:46.304 --> 0:09:48.584 it's just really hot. Have you seen all the videos 0:09:48.624 --> 0:09:51.064 that they did together for the promo for that movie. Yeah, 0:09:51.144 --> 0:09:55.064 they were so cute. They were because they were both Irish, 0:09:55.624 --> 0:09:59.424 like it was a whole thing. Yeah, but really moving 0:09:59.504 --> 0:10:01.344 in credit, like you need to say it. It's very 0:10:01.384 --> 0:10:03.264 very moving, but it's very sad. I will I watched 0:10:03.264 --> 0:10:09.064 it in my own time. That's a side note. He 0:10:09.224 --> 0:10:13.464 was a very very talented Gaelic football player. Of course 0:10:13.464 --> 0:10:18.424 he was. I can say that and that you do 0:10:18.544 --> 0:10:21.984 need a strong quad and that athleticism is probably what 0:10:22.024 --> 0:10:25.304 helped him secure the role in Gladiated to because when 0:10:25.304 --> 0:10:27.744 he had a zoom call with Ridley Scott, who saw 0:10:27.824 --> 0:10:30.944 him in Normal People, Ridley did ask him about the 0:10:30.984 --> 0:10:34.064 Gaelic football. Now, my structure for today is as follows. 0:10:34.864 --> 0:10:39.624 What happened with Phoebe Bridges yep, running away from dates 0:10:39.664 --> 0:10:45.864 in parks, chicken shop date memes and Graham Norton and 0:10:45.904 --> 0:10:50.144 giving people the ick Jesse, what happened with Phoebe Bridges? 0:10:51.104 --> 0:10:54.304 I need her contextualized because everyone just talks about Phoebe 0:10:54.384 --> 0:10:59.384 Bridges as if I know who. Here's the thing that's 0:10:59.464 --> 0:11:02.264 really important, Jesse, I need you to understand this. We 0:11:02.784 --> 0:11:07.344 are not cool enough. She is an indie singer songwriter. 0:11:07.744 --> 0:11:10.864 I've gone through and searched her music. I happened to 0:11:11.344 --> 0:11:13.344 any of that? Okay, because his Phoebe Bridge is not 0:11:13.424 --> 0:11:16.984 currently dating Bo Burnham. Yeah, that's what we're gonna get to, Jess. Fuck. 0:11:17.024 --> 0:11:19.464 Phoebe Bridges had a good run. She's had a great run. 0:11:19.744 --> 0:11:23.824 She likes dating the internet's boyfriends. Wow, I wish I 0:11:23.944 --> 0:11:26.904 was her. Yeah, Oh my goodness. She was born in 0:11:26.984 --> 0:11:27.544 ninety four. 0:11:27.824 --> 0:11:28.104 Mmmm. 0:11:28.864 --> 0:11:33.424 Yeah, she's thirty. She's beautiful. Okay. Cool. So on the 0:11:33.504 --> 0:11:37.584 twelfth of May twenty twenty, indie singer songwriter Phoebe Bridges 0:11:37.824 --> 0:11:40.584 had just finished watching Normal People and, like the rest 0:11:40.624 --> 0:11:44.584 of us, message Paul Mesical on Instagram. No. She posted 0:11:44.584 --> 0:11:48.824 about it. She tweeted, finished watching normal people and now 0:11:48.864 --> 0:11:53.544 I'm sad and horny. I'll wait. Turns out Paul mescal 0:11:53.744 --> 0:11:56.904 Is slush War was a big Phoebe Bridges fan, so 0:11:56.984 --> 0:12:01.864 he tweeted back, I'm officially dead, and she replied back, no, 0:12:02.024 --> 0:12:05.464 don't die. You're so talented hah. By this point, as 0:12:05.504 --> 0:12:08.544 I get a room, yeah, I don't like watching other 0:12:08.544 --> 0:12:11.984 people's letting. I find it uncomfortab. Yeah. On the twenty 0:12:12.024 --> 0:12:17.864 first of May, so that's nine days later, they did 0:12:17.864 --> 0:12:22.144 an Instagram Live together. Weird we did. Everyone did weird things. 0:12:22.264 --> 0:12:23.984 Everyone did weird things because we were like, it's a 0:12:24.024 --> 0:12:28.824 new era and it's like we're all, yeah, okay. Bridges 0:12:28.864 --> 0:12:33.104 interviewed Meschool for Wonderland Magazine, and I went back and 0:12:33.184 --> 0:12:35.384 watched some of this and actually had to turn it 0:12:35.424 --> 0:12:38.744 off because I forgot how painful Instagram Live is just 0:12:38.784 --> 0:12:42.024 some feedback for Instagram. I've never watched an Instagram line. 0:12:42.304 --> 0:12:46.384 Sometimes I accidentally no, sometimes I accidentally press one. And 0:12:46.424 --> 0:12:48.584 the worst thing is it, because no one watches Instagram lines. 0:12:48.904 --> 0:12:51.544 Comes up, you get a shout out yeah, and people 0:12:52.504 --> 0:12:55.944 just join you just joined up. My thumb slipped and 0:12:55.984 --> 0:12:58.304 now I'm on the live. I don't want to watch time. 0:12:58.424 --> 0:13:02.184 I think this is a pyramid scale you're looking for. 0:13:02.264 --> 0:13:05.944 My opinion, I like it. It's briefeet No, it's bad 0:13:06.344 --> 0:13:08.864 and genuinely what it is. You're watching two people on 0:13:08.864 --> 0:13:12.984 a zoom. You're watching two people. They've got technical issues. 0:13:13.624 --> 0:13:18.424 The video is just waiting for Paul to that's a 0:13:18.464 --> 0:13:21.104 direct quote, just waiting for Paul to jump. She's on 0:13:21.304 --> 0:13:24.824 and she's like, where is Paul? And I'm like, oh god. 0:13:25.224 --> 0:13:27.504 And then he joins and like he sounds a bit 0:13:27.824 --> 0:13:29.864 not quite right, and he's like, this is my pop 0:13:29.904 --> 0:13:32.864 plan and it's like, oh god, this is terrible. And 0:13:33.064 --> 0:13:34.584 once I had to do on Instagram live and I 0:13:34.624 --> 0:13:37.424 just kept thinking, I hope no one's seen, but the 0:13:37.424 --> 0:13:40.304 problems people get notified, and you're like, I just want 0:13:40.744 --> 0:13:45.344 to cut off. Don't look at me, don't look at me. 0:13:45.944 --> 0:13:50.224 I've been asked to do these for professional reasons. It's 0:13:50.384 --> 0:13:53.864 like none of the human lands no, because there's there's 0:13:53.864 --> 0:13:56.584 a delay. Yeah, and I don't want to die. But 0:13:56.704 --> 0:13:58.984 it was a bit like watching your first day. At 0:13:59.024 --> 0:14:02.344 one point, Paul told Phoebe, I think it's well documented 0:14:02.344 --> 0:14:04.584 that I love your music and she said, well that 0:14:04.704 --> 0:14:08.384 makes me blush. Mm okay, so it's like again, get 0:14:08.384 --> 0:14:11.424 a room. There's a rumor they stayed online after the 0:14:11.544 --> 0:14:14.424 chat and had drinks together, but I was like, no, 0:14:14.544 --> 0:14:18.224 you've got to hang up from the yeagram live like 0:14:18.424 --> 0:14:20.344 and then it's weird, you know, when you're like coming 0:14:20.344 --> 0:14:23.344 to the end of remember zooms used to the time out? Yeah, 0:14:23.424 --> 0:14:26.664 are you sending another link? Yeah, being like join this? 0:14:27.904 --> 0:14:31.984 Oh god, I hated zoom drinks anyway. A few weeks later, 0:14:32.224 --> 0:14:35.304 in an interview, Bridges referred to Mescal as the cute 0:14:35.304 --> 0:14:37.344 boy from the show and said she got a little 0:14:37.384 --> 0:14:40.144 pitapatter in my heart when she saw he'd followed her 0:14:40.384 --> 0:14:43.944 on Instagram in July, so she'd only done the bloody 0:14:43.944 --> 0:14:47.144 tweet you may in July she flies to Ireland to 0:14:47.224 --> 0:14:50.424 see him, and a little cafe posted about how they'd 0:14:50.424 --> 0:14:53.864 come in for breakfast. In November, he talked about his 0:14:53.904 --> 0:14:58.304 girlfriend in an interview. In December twenty twenty, he appeared 0:14:58.344 --> 0:15:01.584 in the music video for her song Save You Complex 0:15:01.664 --> 0:15:05.624 alongside Phoebe Waller Bridge. Oh yeah, I remember that. About 0:15:05.624 --> 0:15:08.944 a year later, they made their red carpet debut, and 0:15:08.984 --> 0:15:11.624 then they were posting cute photo together on Instagram. It 0:15:11.744 --> 0:15:14.184 was very very clear that they were together, and there 0:15:14.224 --> 0:15:17.664 were rumors that they were engaged because at the met 0:15:17.704 --> 0:15:21.144 gala in May twenty twenty two, Paul was wearing a 0:15:21.224 --> 0:15:24.264 ring on his engagement finger, and people thought maybe she 0:15:24.424 --> 0:15:29.144 proposed and he said yes, and there he just didn't know. 0:15:30.184 --> 0:15:34.144 It was also awkward because there are a few examples 0:15:34.424 --> 0:15:40.984 of interviews with one of them, the journalists writing in 0:15:41.024 --> 0:15:43.664 the copy for the interview that they were engaged. So 0:15:43.704 --> 0:15:47.944 it wasn't a direct quote song like Paul, but it 0:15:48.024 --> 0:15:50.424 was in the context of a published interview, So you're like, 0:15:50.504 --> 0:15:53.104 surely his team signed off on that, but then it 0:15:53.104 --> 0:15:56.104 would be amended later and so you engaged? Are you 0:15:56.144 --> 0:16:01.184 not engaged? Then in December there was controversy the foot 0:16:01.824 --> 0:16:05.384 Bridges collaborated with Scissor for a song Ghost in the Machine. 0:16:05.544 --> 0:16:10.064 You know, I've been calling Hazzar anyway, who Sissa? 0:16:10.544 --> 0:16:10.864 Okay? 0:16:11.344 --> 0:16:14.904 Do I know the song? I don't think that you know? Okay, Okay, 0:16:14.984 --> 0:16:18.544 it's not for you, Okay. So Phoebe Bridges is with 0:16:19.704 --> 0:16:22.864 does the song with Scissor okay? And she sings about 0:16:22.904 --> 0:16:25.904 screaming at another person and ending up alone in an 0:16:25.904 --> 0:16:30.184 airport bar or hotel lobby. The timeline of how quickly 0:16:30.264 --> 0:16:34.104 the song came together also appeared to kind of further 0:16:34.224 --> 0:16:36.824 point to the real time nature of the breakup, Like 0:16:36.864 --> 0:16:39.224 she talked about how her and Sissor had just collaborated 0:16:39.304 --> 0:16:41.544 and released this really quickly, all right, and so it's 0:16:41.544 --> 0:16:43.504 like just interesting that you know you're talking about it 0:16:43.544 --> 0:16:47.544 feels urgent, feels urgent. Yeah, then can I just say, 0:16:47.904 --> 0:16:50.504 you know, it just pops up? Is Matti fucking Eely? 0:16:51.184 --> 0:16:54.664 Matt Healy? He was just at the Gladiator premiere or 0:16:54.704 --> 0:16:56.264 is it the Wicked premiere? I don't know, is it 0:16:56.304 --> 0:16:57.984 one of them? It's probably at all of them. But 0:16:58.064 --> 0:17:00.344 he just turns up and he was why is he here? 0:17:00.384 --> 0:17:02.384 Though he was in Australia, Jesse, he was just in 0:17:02.424 --> 0:17:04.944 a lobby getting selfies with people, and it's like, you 0:17:05.024 --> 0:17:09.624 are a famous person outside your cage. Yeah, why are 0:17:09.664 --> 0:17:12.144 you here? Mate? Okay? Did he pop up here? Yes? 0:17:12.784 --> 0:17:15.904 Because the nineteen seventy five front man Matt Healey posted 0:17:15.904 --> 0:17:21.624 a baffling photo on Instagram that showed him and Bridges kissing, 0:17:21.944 --> 0:17:25.544 with Bo Burnham standing behind them with his hands on 0:17:25.584 --> 0:17:27.904 both of their shoulders. I remember this because everyone's like, 0:17:28.064 --> 0:17:33.424 isn't Phoebe Bridges with Paul Mescal And isn't Bo Burnham 0:17:34.104 --> 0:17:36.704 with a woman he had been with for like a 0:17:36.784 --> 0:17:40.624 d a million years? I remember that, and also Matt heay, 0:17:41.064 --> 0:17:43.344 are you not with Taylor Fucking Sweat at some point 0:17:43.384 --> 0:17:49.064 you were? It really confused fans. Then Bridges was spotted 0:17:49.064 --> 0:17:51.984 at a show with Burnham in New York. She did 0:17:52.424 --> 0:17:55.824 chicken shop date with Amelia de Moldenburg and talked about heartbreak, 0:17:56.304 --> 0:17:59.344 and she continued being seen with Burnham in early twenty 0:17:59.344 --> 0:18:03.224 twenty three. While Mescal avoided any questions about their relationship. 0:18:03.984 --> 0:18:07.904 Then it was clear that Bridges was officially dating Burnham. 0:18:08.104 --> 0:18:12.464 It's funny. There's this video of Keith Urban and Nicole 0:18:12.584 --> 0:18:15.504 Kidman dancing at a concert and in the background you 0:18:15.544 --> 0:18:17.064 can see Bo Burnham and you're like, oh my god, 0:18:17.064 --> 0:18:18.544 it's Bo Burnham, And then you just see he's just 0:18:18.544 --> 0:18:22.384 hooking up with Febe Bridges. You're like, wild, wild, he's 0:18:22.384 --> 0:18:25.744 so tall. He's so tall. I bet that makes Paul 0:18:25.784 --> 0:18:30.424 Mescal feel insecure. We'll get to his height. Really yeah, yeah, well, 0:18:30.464 --> 0:18:32.864 I mean you heard what Live said. He's not that tall, 0:18:32.904 --> 0:18:35.704 but he's not that short. But he's not that tall. Now, 0:18:35.784 --> 0:18:39.784 there are rumors that Mescal and Bridges secretly got married 0:18:40.064 --> 0:18:43.384 right before they broke up. This is according to the 0:18:43.464 --> 0:18:47.144 dou Nois podcast. Wouldn't we see that in the paperwork? 0:18:47.744 --> 0:18:49.064 I don't know, is that public? 0:18:49.184 --> 0:18:49.344 Yeah? 0:18:49.384 --> 0:18:51.344 I thought it was. I don't know anyway on the 0:18:51.344 --> 0:18:54.344 podcast unless you get a like, what like an annullman 0:18:54.464 --> 0:18:56.784 or something. Well, on the podcast, they said, I can 0:18:56.784 --> 0:18:59.664 confirm that Paul is telling people that him and Phoebe 0:18:59.784 --> 0:19:03.904 were married in secret. This was an anonymous source. Not 0:19:03.944 --> 0:19:06.024 sure if they were actually married or not, but this 0:19:06.184 --> 0:19:08.064 is what he's saying. Someone I know went on a 0:19:08.144 --> 0:19:10.904 date with him where he told her he was over 0:19:10.984 --> 0:19:13.224 his ex and that a big reason was that they 0:19:13.264 --> 0:19:17.584 were married in secret not long before they broke up. Apparently, 0:19:17.624 --> 0:19:21.304 he also cries a lot about Bridges, which you will 0:19:21.344 --> 0:19:25.064 get to, okay, because weirdly, I had the vague impression 0:19:25.104 --> 0:19:28.384 that he did something naughty here. Yeah, I'm probably gonna 0:19:28.384 --> 0:19:32.184 need a few more details, but back to them about Yeah, 0:19:32.224 --> 0:19:35.544 it doesn't sound like he did anything noughty that we 0:19:35.624 --> 0:19:38.224 know of yet. Oh well. No. One of the rumors 0:19:38.384 --> 0:19:41.464 was at that met gala where he was wearing the 0:19:41.544 --> 0:19:44.664 ring and people thought that he might be engaged to 0:19:44.704 --> 0:19:47.544 Phoebe Bridges. There was a photo taking with Daisy ed 0:19:47.544 --> 0:19:50.104 Ga Jones and in the background there is poor mescul 0:19:50.144 --> 0:19:53.824 standing next to Phoebe Bridges but staring at Daisy. What 0:19:53.944 --> 0:19:56.864 do you make of this? Excuse me while I look 0:19:56.904 --> 0:19:59.504 at this. He's very a man posing for a photo, 0:20:00.064 --> 0:20:02.704 which is that he's weirdly smiling at the camera. No, 0:20:02.784 --> 0:20:04.984 you know what he is. He's when you're in a 0:20:04.984 --> 0:20:07.584 situation where people say, hey, I'm just gonna take candid photos, 0:20:08.824 --> 0:20:10.944 don't look at the camera because he's looking dead down 0:20:11.024 --> 0:20:13.424 the camera with a big smile on his face. Incredibly awkward. 0:20:13.544 --> 0:20:15.784 It's not very celebrity. It's just I hate it though, 0:20:15.864 --> 0:20:19.024 when those things get blown out of proportion, because it's like, God, 0:20:19.104 --> 0:20:23.544 we do weird shit when cameras are about yes. Correct, Hello, 0:20:23.664 --> 0:20:27.824 canceled listeners. The Month of Move has started. 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You can find all 0:21:05.624 --> 0:21:21.864 the details in the show notes running Away from Dates 0:21:21.944 --> 0:21:26.504 in Parks. In late December twenty twenty three, a rumor 0:21:26.584 --> 0:21:30.984 began circulating about mescal One that really challenged his beautiful reputation. 0:21:31.784 --> 0:21:36.464 According to entirely unsubstantiated sources and a lot of this 0:21:36.664 --> 0:21:39.824 we're off on TikTok, he has a habit of sleeping 0:21:39.824 --> 0:21:42.304 with women he meets in pubs, and then the following 0:21:42.384 --> 0:21:44.264 morning he asked them to go for a walk with 0:21:44.344 --> 0:21:47.944 him in the park, and then he runs away. It's 0:21:48.064 --> 0:21:54.984 just he runs away, run right away. Why it's so unnecessary, 0:21:56.224 --> 0:22:00.464 there's no sense, it's too ish, it's so dumb, because 0:22:00.464 --> 0:22:03.624 it's like he's too famous to be running in public. 0:22:04.064 --> 0:22:07.744 He's too famous to be darting from someone else he's 0:22:07.744 --> 0:22:09.584 and even the running right like I've had a one 0:22:09.664 --> 0:22:11.784 night stand in the park, I'm walking alongside them, and 0:22:11.824 --> 0:22:13.624 let's say I don't want to be there anymore. I 0:22:13.624 --> 0:22:15.824 could just walk away. I don't reckon they're going to 0:22:15.904 --> 0:22:18.864 chase me. They might go, oh Jesse, and they might 0:22:18.904 --> 0:22:20.704 fall out, And if I just look back and give 0:22:20.744 --> 0:22:23.064 them a look, I think I'm right to just kind 0:22:23.104 --> 0:22:26.144 of be on my way. The reason why running away 0:22:26.224 --> 0:22:28.704 such power move is that it says I'm worried you're 0:22:28.744 --> 0:22:30.904 going to chase me, which puts you in a position 0:22:30.944 --> 0:22:36.504 of feeling clinging. And it's like, I'm not feeling clinging. 0:22:36.544 --> 0:22:39.024 I just want to know where you're going if we're 0:22:39.104 --> 0:22:42.144 currently in danger. Because if I was with someone and 0:22:42.184 --> 0:22:44.904 they started bolting in the other direction, I go, have 0:22:45.024 --> 0:22:47.984 I missed a cute? Yeah? Is there something for us 0:22:48.064 --> 0:22:50.784 to be afraid? Is there a sun army that I 0:22:50.824 --> 0:22:54.984 didn't see coming? Yeah? Yeah, Well, clips began circulating on 0:22:55.024 --> 0:22:58.424 TikTok of these blind items, claiming that he developed the 0:22:58.504 --> 0:23:02.264 habit while living in London. Yeah. One of the first 0:23:02.344 --> 0:23:05.144 to talk about the rumor was a woman called Aaron 0:23:05.344 --> 0:23:08.784 Mary Smith, and she said, Paul meschool basically goes around 0:23:08.784 --> 0:23:11.984