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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: I'm Claire Murphy. This is Mumma MIA's daily news podcast.

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Speaker 3: The Quikie.

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Speaker 1: Sunday marked two years since the passing of Her Royal

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Speaker 1: Highness Queen Elizabeth I and just yesterday Australians awoke to

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Speaker 1: the news that the Princess of Wales was done with

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Speaker 1: chemo and ready to return to royal duties.

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Speaker 2: And I must continue to take each day as it comes.

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Speaker 2: I am, however, looking forward to being back at work

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Speaker 2: and undertaking a few more public engagements in the coming

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Speaker 1: Today we check in on the British Royals. Are they

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Speaker 1: all living harmoniously coming together to keep the Royal family

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Speaker 1: relevant and strong? Maybe not quite. But before we get

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Speaker 1: into that, here's the letters from the Quikie Newsroom. Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: September eleven. A mother who was found with self inflicted

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Speaker 1: injuries in a Blue Mountain's home alongside the the bodies

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Speaker 1: of her two young sons, remains under police guard as

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Speaker 1: investigators prepared to question her. The boys, age nine and eleven,

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Speaker 1: were found by their father at the home in falcon Bridge,

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Speaker 1: west of Sydney, yesterday afternoon. Police declining to speculate on

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Speaker 1: what occurred before the brothers died, but said they're not

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Speaker 1: looking for any other parties. The boy's forty two year

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Speaker 1: old mother spent last night under arrest in hospital where

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Speaker 1: she's being treated for self inflicted knife wounds to her arms.

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Speaker 1: The family had no history of domestic violence. The parents

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Speaker 1: are separated. The father of the boys not living in

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Speaker 1: the Blue Mountains area. He's helping authorities with the investigation.

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Speaker 1: Opposition leader Peter Dutton has promised mining companies he'll be

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Speaker 1: their best friend should his party win it. Next to

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Speaker 1: his federal election, mister Dutton says he'll defund the Environmental

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Speaker 1: Defender's Office and limit the ability for third parties to

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Speaker 1: challenge decisions under the Environmental Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act

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Speaker 1: if he becomes Prime Minister. He also promised to turbocharge

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Speaker 1: the mining sector to help steer the nenation through the

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Speaker 1: economic slump and into another boom, saying a Dutton government

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Speaker 1: will be the best friend that the mining and resources

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Speaker 1: sector in Australia will ever have. Mister Dutton says he

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Speaker 1: wants to see more excavators digging, more gas flowing, and

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Speaker 1: more trucks moving, vowing to remove the roadblocks Labor have

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Speaker 1: introduced that mister Dutton says are simply pandering to inner

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Speaker 1: City Green's voters. One of the victims of the Hunter

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Speaker 1: Valley bus crash has given some insight into what happened

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Speaker 1: inside the bus after it tipped when the driver took

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Speaker 1: June last year. The crash killed ten wedding guests and

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Speaker 1: injured many others. Those involved have been delivering their victim

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Speaker 1: impact statements. During driver Brett Button's three day sentencing hearing,

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Speaker 1: Sharon Junker explained how she felt like the driver didn't

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Speaker 1: saying as the wheels began to lift on the right

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Speaker 1: and she was going to die. She remembers the sensation

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Speaker 1: Her husband, Jason, says he's haunted by the memories of

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Speaker 1: the night, recalling how he found his wife face down,

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Speaker 1: that changes will be implemented to stop something like this

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Speaker 1: Queen Camilla's visit to Australia has been released, with the

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Speaker 1: and Queen will spend six days between October eighteen and

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Speaker 1: Charles became monarch and his first overseas visit since announcing

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Speaker 1: at Parliament House by Prime Minister Anthony Alberonizi, where they

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Speaker 1: two years after the Queen's passing, we find out how

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Speaker 1: the British royal family are fairing, with King Charles at

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Speaker 1: her Scottish estate Bowmoral. The castle was where the former

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Speaker 1: But let's be honest, it hasn't been the easiest. Two

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Speaker 1: The double blow of both his cancer diagnosis and that

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Speaker 1: William has been doing what he can in between caring

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Speaker 1: a horse related head injury back in June. But then yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the Princess of Wales posted this video telling us that

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Speaker 1: she's ready to return to royal life more than a

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Speaker 1: year after her cancer diagnosis.

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Speaker 2: My path to healing and full recovery is long, and

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Speaker 2: I must continue to take each day as it comes.

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Speaker 2: I am, however, looking forward to being back at work

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Speaker 2: months when I can my tool that's gone before. I

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Speaker 2: enter this new phase of recovery with a renewed sense

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Speaker 1: Holly Wayne Right is Mummy's head of Content, the co

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Speaker 1: of mid as well as being our resident royal expert, Holly,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of this video announcing Catherine's return

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Speaker 1: and what impact will that have on the family in general.

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Speaker 4: I think you could probably hear a big sigh of

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Speaker 4: relief emanating from London. Obviously on a personal level, everybody

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Speaker 4: is delighted to see that Catherine is healthy and doing

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Speaker 4: can expect to see her fully back, she said in

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Speaker 1: Can we talk about that, because it's very uplifting, very emotive.

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Speaker 1: It shows the whole family running through fields and frolicking

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Speaker 4: I think actually, what that video announces is a real

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Speaker 4: how positive and hopeful it is that Catherine's obviously coming

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Speaker 4: out of her treatment and feeling well. But the other

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Speaker 4: that is a complete departure. It's not only a complete

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Speaker 4: royal family to be showing that level of intimacy, that

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Speaker 4: level of affection. It's actually very Harry and Meghan, you know,

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Speaker 4: the very stylized, beautifully shot love production values storytelling that

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Speaker 4: are taking the reins. And I've seen some commentary today

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Speaker 4: that suggests that when we had the PR disaster of

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Speaker 4: fevered speculation and the photoshopped image and all those things.

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Speaker 4: I think with hindsight we can all agree that we

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Speaker 5: But it also showed that their pr.

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Speaker 4: Machine was still moving at this clunky, keep everybody at

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Speaker 4: and they are beginning to understand the messaging and that

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Speaker 4: really you need to give people just enough and show

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Speaker 4: I think that that shows like a gear shift in

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Speaker 5: And I actually think it's very clever.

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Speaker 1: Into the royal family void that Charles and Catherine had

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Speaker 1: reports suggests Harry has no interest in returning as he's

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Speaker 1: enjoying his new life and friends in California. Polly, do

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Speaker 1: you think the rumors about Harry wanting to return duties

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think it's true.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's clear that connections with the family are

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Speaker 4: still there. Just a couple of weeks ago, he very

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Speaker 4: anything to do with publicity or pr But the rift

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Speaker 4: is clearly very serious there between the brothers and between

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Speaker 4: Harry and the King. The King has clearly chosen William

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Speaker 4: if you like. I mean, that's very sort of basic

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Speaker 4: way to put it, he doesn't really have much of

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Speaker 5: William is heir to the throne.

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Speaker 4: But I think the reports that Harry is miserable and

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Speaker 4: trying to get back in are wrong. I think that

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Speaker 4: Harry is probably enjoying his new life and having this

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Speaker 4: as we've seen on their visits to Nigeria and Columbia,

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Speaker 4: And I don't think there's going to be a return

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Speaker 1: What do you pretic is going to happen on Sunday?

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Speaker 1: Because it's Harry's fortieth birthday and if you remember back

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Speaker 1: to his thirtieth, it was a big party in the

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Speaker 1: But this fortieth is going to look very different to that.

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Speaker 5: Still silence on that front, and.

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Speaker 4: Then there have been rumblings that there have been some

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Speaker 2: You were staying at the house as a convicted sex offender.

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