1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:16,874 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Whoever said orange 2 00:00:16,914 --> 00:00:21,314 Speaker 1: is a new pink with seriously disturbed laurels spraying groundbreaking? 3 00:00:21,553 --> 00:00:23,834 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do it. You live 4 00:00:23,954 --> 00:00:28,554 Speaker 1: for fashion. Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the 5 00:00:28,594 --> 00:00:31,554 Speaker 1: podcast that solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. 6 00:00:31,714 --> 00:00:35,674 Speaker 1: I'm Lee Camp. Now today we have a fabulous guest returning. 7 00:00:35,714 --> 00:00:37,873 Speaker 1: Her name is Sam. You might have caught her the 8 00:00:37,914 --> 00:00:39,594 Speaker 1: first time. She was on a couple of months ago, 9 00:00:39,994 --> 00:00:43,353 Speaker 1: and she is here to talk capsual wardrobes. No, not 10 00:00:43,434 --> 00:00:45,833 Speaker 1: why you need a trench and jeans and a black 11 00:00:45,833 --> 00:00:49,074 Speaker 1: blazer and a white t shirt exactly the opposite. She's 12 00:00:49,114 --> 00:00:51,473 Speaker 1: going to tell us the mistakes she sees her clients 13 00:00:51,513 --> 00:00:53,794 Speaker 1: make when they're trying to create a captural wardrobe, and 14 00:00:53,834 --> 00:00:56,914 Speaker 1: what a true captural wardrobe actually is. Did you know 15 00:00:57,034 --> 00:00:59,794 Speaker 1: it was coined in nineteen seventy I didn't. I thought 16 00:00:59,794 --> 00:01:01,754 Speaker 1: it was an internet thing. So let's jump in with 17 00:01:01,754 --> 00:01:03,914 Speaker 1: Sam and work out how to actually work out the 18 00:01:03,914 --> 00:01:07,514 Speaker 1: basics that work for us. Sam, Welcome back to Nothing 19 00:01:07,554 --> 00:01:09,874 Speaker 1: to Wear. You were on gosh a few months ago now, 20 00:01:09,874 --> 00:01:12,434 Speaker 1: and that is one of our most downloaded, most listened 21 00:01:12,434 --> 00:01:12,994 Speaker 1: to episodes. 22 00:01:13,034 --> 00:01:14,594 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so happy of it. 23 00:01:14,634 --> 00:01:17,554 Speaker 1: That is so much love what you have to say. 24 00:01:17,674 --> 00:01:19,274 Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be bart, I'm so. 25 00:01:19,234 --> 00:01:21,674 Speaker 1: Happy to have you. Before we talk about what we're 26 00:01:21,674 --> 00:01:23,754 Speaker 1: gonna talk about, which is pretty like you've got some 27 00:01:23,794 --> 00:01:26,234 Speaker 1: big things to say, I need to know what you're wearing. 28 00:01:26,434 --> 00:01:28,114 Speaker 1: You look phenomenal. What is this outfit? 29 00:01:28,234 --> 00:01:30,554 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'll start with this little kind of crap 30 00:01:30,634 --> 00:01:36,434 Speaker 2: blazer that's just from palsy O beautiful. My jeans are igldy. Yeah, 31 00:01:36,554 --> 00:01:38,914 Speaker 2: so these have been in my wardrobe for all whale. 32 00:01:39,274 --> 00:01:40,314 Speaker 2: My shoes are kicked. 33 00:01:40,674 --> 00:01:41,634 Speaker 1: Oh you were fancy. 34 00:01:41,914 --> 00:01:43,954 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I would dress up. Yes. 35 00:01:44,034 --> 00:01:45,714 Speaker 1: And also, as we know from last time, you know, 36 00:01:45,754 --> 00:01:47,354 Speaker 1: you don't just buy things on a whim. We think 37 00:01:47,354 --> 00:01:49,274 Speaker 1: about it and then you're yeah, yeah. 38 00:01:48,874 --> 00:01:50,474 Speaker 2: I've word all this a million times. 39 00:01:50,474 --> 00:01:53,154 Speaker 1: I need your tips of keeping that those jeans clean. 40 00:01:53,274 --> 00:01:54,834 Speaker 2: Oh as soon as I get and I just tee 41 00:01:54,874 --> 00:01:56,114 Speaker 2: them off exactly. 42 00:01:56,634 --> 00:01:59,074 Speaker 1: Okay, before we jump to the topic, I don't know 43 00:01:59,114 --> 00:02:01,354 Speaker 1: what's your algorithm doing right now, what's on your feed, 44 00:02:01,434 --> 00:02:03,154 Speaker 1: what's on your for you page? 45 00:02:03,394 --> 00:02:05,714 Speaker 2: Oh my god, so in terms of my trends at 46 00:02:05,714 --> 00:02:08,514 Speaker 2: that's when it in time I am seeing. I follow 47 00:02:08,514 --> 00:02:12,633 Speaker 2: a lot of UK influenzas and publications, so in tryins, 48 00:02:12,674 --> 00:02:15,354 Speaker 2: I'm seeing a lot a lot of blue. So like 49 00:02:15,394 --> 00:02:17,594 Speaker 2: the cutwalks are coming off with like pale blue, but 50 00:02:17,594 --> 00:02:20,074 Speaker 2: I'm seeing like every version of it, and I am 51 00:02:20,154 --> 00:02:22,434 Speaker 2: trying my hardest not to buy into it because I 52 00:02:22,514 --> 00:02:24,394 Speaker 2: just know that I'm never going to wear that. 53 00:02:24,434 --> 00:02:25,594 Speaker 1: You're not a blue person. 54 00:02:25,354 --> 00:02:28,954 Speaker 2: I'm not, No, not really, I'm really monochrome. But I 55 00:02:28,994 --> 00:02:31,074 Speaker 2: am really attracted to it. So what I might do 56 00:02:31,194 --> 00:02:33,914 Speaker 2: is maybe like get my nails blue or buy buy 57 00:02:33,914 --> 00:02:36,274 Speaker 2: a blue phone case. That's how I kind of scratch 58 00:02:36,354 --> 00:02:39,154 Speaker 2: the etch of that color. Yeah. 59 00:02:39,354 --> 00:02:41,474 Speaker 1: So does that mean if you're seeing it a lot 60 00:02:41,514 --> 00:02:42,954 Speaker 1: then now is that kind of like what we'll be 61 00:02:42,994 --> 00:02:45,194 Speaker 1: wearing after winter? Do you think like you know you've 62 00:02:45,234 --> 00:02:47,714 Speaker 1: been in buying like or do we the world so immediate? 63 00:02:47,714 --> 00:02:48,794 Speaker 1: Are we going to get it in our winter? 64 00:02:49,274 --> 00:02:51,514 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well you should if the if the retailers are 65 00:02:51,514 --> 00:02:53,474 Speaker 2: on it. But yeah, but I feel like blue is 66 00:02:53,514 --> 00:02:57,233 Speaker 2: such an amazing primary color, so it will be everywhere. Yeah, 67 00:02:57,434 --> 00:02:59,474 Speaker 2: And it's all shades I'm really seeing, and it's not 68 00:02:59,634 --> 00:02:59,914 Speaker 2: just I. 69 00:02:59,874 --> 00:03:01,194 Speaker 1: Don't know if it's technically blue. 70 00:03:01,234 --> 00:03:02,914 Speaker 2: So you are seeing the pale blues, and you are 71 00:03:02,914 --> 00:03:06,114 Speaker 2: seeing the kind of like like clo Bot like Cole Bowl, 72 00:03:06,314 --> 00:03:08,714 Speaker 2: and there's other collars that I just can't put my 73 00:03:08,914 --> 00:03:11,274 Speaker 2: finger on the name, but you know, like that the 74 00:03:11,314 --> 00:03:18,274 Speaker 2: Devil Wheels, that's yes, that blue, I can't Yeah, that 75 00:03:18,834 --> 00:03:21,874 Speaker 2: Adventures enough. Navy, it is amazing. Navy is like one 76 00:03:21,914 --> 00:03:23,714 Speaker 2: of those colors that suits over with skin tone, so 77 00:03:23,874 --> 00:03:26,234 Speaker 2: go for that. So yeah, I'm seeing a lot of that, 78 00:03:26,314 --> 00:03:28,314 Speaker 2: and obviously pops of red is still I feel like 79 00:03:28,394 --> 00:03:31,994 Speaker 2: red it's primary colors really that I'm seeing. Yeah, also 80 00:03:32,034 --> 00:03:34,314 Speaker 2: seeing coming through which I don't know. I'm kind of 81 00:03:34,354 --> 00:03:38,714 Speaker 2: like on the fence with cargo trousers and pants. I'm 82 00:03:38,714 --> 00:03:41,674 Speaker 2: seeing a lot of that in the UK, and I'm like, oh, 83 00:03:41,714 --> 00:03:44,034 Speaker 2: I've never wore them before, but could I get away 84 00:03:44,074 --> 00:03:44,354 Speaker 2: with them? 85 00:03:44,434 --> 00:03:45,914 Speaker 1: Do not do them like twenty years ago? 86 00:03:45,994 --> 00:03:49,194 Speaker 2: Oh yeah I did when I was nineteen, but like, no, nurge, 87 00:03:49,234 --> 00:03:51,714 Speaker 2: you know. So I'm like, how can I? Because I 88 00:03:51,754 --> 00:03:55,314 Speaker 2: love high waisted like in terms of my proportions, so 89 00:03:55,354 --> 00:03:56,514 Speaker 2: they just wouldn't suit me. 90 00:03:56,754 --> 00:03:59,914 Speaker 1: So I could traditional kind of like casual cut as well, 91 00:03:59,914 --> 00:04:01,674 Speaker 1: because I've sort of seen some that are more I 92 00:04:01,674 --> 00:04:05,314 Speaker 1: guess suiting or tailoring with that kind of pockety situation. 93 00:04:05,514 --> 00:04:07,514 Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to do this time, do the 94 00:04:07,554 --> 00:04:07,994 Speaker 1: low waist. 95 00:04:08,754 --> 00:04:10,434 Speaker 2: And I feel like that's the thing. It's like, if 96 00:04:10,474 --> 00:04:12,354 Speaker 2: you like a trend, you can find a stale that 97 00:04:12,474 --> 00:04:14,434 Speaker 2: represents that, but then also represents you. 98 00:04:14,914 --> 00:04:17,113 Speaker 1: Oh no, I need to tuck my top into my highway. 99 00:04:19,194 --> 00:04:20,354 Speaker 2: Pennial thing as well. 100 00:04:20,634 --> 00:04:20,754 Speaker 1: It. 101 00:04:21,674 --> 00:04:24,873 Speaker 2: Yeah, what else I'm seeing a lot of AI I 102 00:04:24,873 --> 00:04:27,674 Speaker 2: think you guys mentioned that as well. I'm seeing the 103 00:04:27,714 --> 00:04:30,313 Speaker 2: whole sheer locks thing where they've got a whole page 104 00:04:30,354 --> 00:04:34,473 Speaker 2: for They've got four influencers as AI people. 105 00:04:35,154 --> 00:04:35,834 Speaker 1: I haven't seen this. 106 00:04:36,113 --> 00:04:39,113 Speaker 2: Yes, so there's four of them and they're all kind 107 00:04:39,113 --> 00:04:42,833 Speaker 2: of like a bit different. They're all beautiful. The comments 108 00:04:42,834 --> 00:04:45,433 Speaker 2: are blowing up because there's a beauty there's a beauty 109 00:04:45,433 --> 00:04:49,113 Speaker 2: one who recommends beauty products but then doesn't have doesn't 110 00:04:48,714 --> 00:04:52,674 Speaker 2: a real skin. So everything is blowing up at this 111 00:04:53,113 --> 00:04:55,633 Speaker 2: in terms of that conversation. And I'll like just pay 112 00:04:55,714 --> 00:04:56,354 Speaker 2: real people. 113 00:04:56,433 --> 00:04:58,993 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, it's gonna have a great place in fashion, 114 00:04:59,034 --> 00:05:01,914 Speaker 1: hopefully if it can literally help me, I don't know, 115 00:05:01,914 --> 00:05:04,553 Speaker 1: maybe a hologram of my exact proportions and my and 116 00:05:04,594 --> 00:05:06,514 Speaker 1: it pops up there and she spins around like, oh, 117 00:05:06,553 --> 00:05:08,153 Speaker 1: that looks grow up. Have to try that on. Yeah, 118 00:05:08,234 --> 00:05:09,113 Speaker 1: I don't know something like that. 119 00:05:09,234 --> 00:05:10,713 Speaker 2: Yeah no, but I think those people doing that, I 120 00:05:10,714 --> 00:05:13,354 Speaker 2: think that I'll do that and you can try you 121 00:05:13,393 --> 00:05:15,274 Speaker 2: on a picture of yourself in great a portion. So 122 00:05:15,313 --> 00:05:17,513 Speaker 2: I think that's great. And even as a content quit, 123 00:05:17,714 --> 00:05:19,914 Speaker 2: I mean, I would absolutely love it if I could 124 00:05:19,953 --> 00:05:24,634 Speaker 2: just clone myself and just be like, here's all educational here, 125 00:05:24,834 --> 00:05:25,833 Speaker 2: everything in my brain. 126 00:05:26,953 --> 00:05:28,634 Speaker 1: Robot film the content. 127 00:05:28,393 --> 00:05:31,234 Speaker 2: Exactly, but it's my voice, my like you know. 128 00:05:31,234 --> 00:05:34,074 Speaker 1: But in advertising of products feels very weird. 129 00:05:34,513 --> 00:05:36,513 Speaker 2: People need that human contact. 130 00:05:37,073 --> 00:05:40,674 Speaker 1: Honestly, think it's an interesting space. Yeah, it really is interesting, 131 00:05:41,234 --> 00:05:43,354 Speaker 1: all right, So that's the future with the robots. What 132 00:05:43,354 --> 00:05:44,834 Speaker 1: else anything from the good old days? 133 00:05:45,073 --> 00:05:49,553 Speaker 2: Oh nineties, like it's absolutely everywhere. Have you seen it's 134 00:05:49,553 --> 00:05:51,194 Speaker 2: called a Love Story with Caroline. 135 00:05:51,234 --> 00:05:53,274 Speaker 1: I haven't watched it, but I need to. 136 00:05:53,474 --> 00:05:56,074 Speaker 2: It's absolutely blew up the ends on that. 137 00:05:57,034 --> 00:05:58,753 Speaker 1: I know. I mean, I know, and I know the story, 138 00:05:58,794 --> 00:05:59,993 Speaker 1: but I will watch it. 139 00:06:00,034 --> 00:06:02,834 Speaker 2: But I think people were just craving like simplacity and 140 00:06:03,073 --> 00:06:05,834 Speaker 2: nineties is all the But that's simplacity, It's so simple. 141 00:06:06,034 --> 00:06:07,834 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on Deepop time. I'm always in the 142 00:06:07,914 --> 00:06:11,474 Speaker 1: vintage section and I'm choosing my era and it's obviously nineties, 143 00:06:11,674 --> 00:06:14,034 Speaker 1: most too recent, and I'm like, oh, no, it wasn't. 144 00:06:14,993 --> 00:06:19,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like proper vintage now it's sadvantage, but yeah, people, 145 00:06:19,714 --> 00:06:22,354 Speaker 2: I feel like people are just craving that, like just simplicity. 146 00:06:22,474 --> 00:06:24,593 Speaker 2: I feel like that in terms of my followers or 147 00:06:24,674 --> 00:06:26,274 Speaker 2: just like just need some. 148 00:06:26,393 --> 00:06:29,594 Speaker 1: Ple yeah, not too fussy, not to fossy. And I 149 00:06:29,633 --> 00:06:31,993 Speaker 1: think also for younger generations, it's their first time with 150 00:06:32,113 --> 00:06:35,354 Speaker 1: that sort of total esthetic. You know, it's you know, 151 00:06:35,393 --> 00:06:37,633 Speaker 1: we've been there and done that, but it's quite frustrating. 152 00:06:37,714 --> 00:06:39,674 Speaker 2: Even for me. It's like I grew up in that. 153 00:06:40,034 --> 00:06:42,954 Speaker 2: I was a teenager in the nineties, but my like 154 00:06:43,034 --> 00:06:47,593 Speaker 2: asthetics was like all scenes and things like that. Cargos, yes, 155 00:06:48,313 --> 00:06:50,913 Speaker 2: you know, to see the canar, Calvin Klay. 156 00:06:50,914 --> 00:06:53,393 Speaker 1: Yes, the more kind of viture side that. Yeah. 157 00:06:53,513 --> 00:06:55,474 Speaker 2: So I'm actually really excited. 158 00:06:55,154 --> 00:06:57,753 Speaker 1: About that because that is just maybe we just go 159 00:06:57,834 --> 00:06:59,553 Speaker 1: back to no phones and meeting people at the movies 160 00:06:59,594 --> 00:07:01,913 Speaker 1: when we say what time we go to the movies. 161 00:07:02,633 --> 00:07:05,794 Speaker 1: So after the break, we're going to talk all things captural, wardrobe, 162 00:07:05,993 --> 00:07:08,993 Speaker 1: the biggest mistake and the huge myth around what a 163 00:07:09,034 --> 00:07:28,234 Speaker 1: captural wardrobe? We're talking capture wardrobes. I think most people 164 00:07:28,274 --> 00:07:30,154 Speaker 1: have heard the term, even if they don't know how 165 00:07:30,154 --> 00:07:32,273 Speaker 1: to get one. If they've got one, what is a 166 00:07:32,314 --> 00:07:33,154 Speaker 1: captural wardrobe? 167 00:07:33,474 --> 00:07:36,634 Speaker 2: So capture wardrobe was actually coined back in the seventies 168 00:07:36,674 --> 00:07:40,834 Speaker 2: by somebody called SUSA four. So as as a history, 169 00:07:40,914 --> 00:07:43,953 Speaker 2: there's even publications like back in the forties, so it 170 00:07:44,114 --> 00:07:49,474 Speaker 2: is long stunning, but at no so it is a 171 00:07:49,514 --> 00:07:54,514 Speaker 2: tightly edited collection of items that you will constantly wear, 172 00:07:54,594 --> 00:07:58,234 Speaker 2: that suit your lifestyle, that suit your body shape. That's 173 00:07:58,274 --> 00:08:01,233 Speaker 2: really all about what you feel comfortable. 174 00:08:00,634 --> 00:08:03,354 Speaker 1: And okay, so that's the intention. But I feel like 175 00:08:03,393 --> 00:08:05,674 Speaker 1: you go on any social media platform and there is 176 00:08:05,714 --> 00:08:08,754 Speaker 1: you know, a little jigsaw puzzle of a trench coat, 177 00:08:09,274 --> 00:08:11,554 Speaker 1: a black blazer, a white T shirt, some Jane. So 178 00:08:11,794 --> 00:08:14,994 Speaker 1: it feels quite restrictive or prescriptive. But was that the intention? 179 00:08:15,514 --> 00:08:18,234 Speaker 2: I feel like people are taking this on in terms 180 00:08:18,234 --> 00:08:21,593 Speaker 2: of the classics. What are the classics? And whip to me, 181 00:08:21,674 --> 00:08:25,074 Speaker 2: which defines a classic? Is it seen in every decade 182 00:08:25,393 --> 00:08:28,833 Speaker 2: of history? So like the trench coat, the leather biker 183 00:08:28,914 --> 00:08:32,274 Speaker 2: in the fifties, you know, the den the Levi's denim. 184 00:08:32,354 --> 00:08:36,314 Speaker 2: Like people do take that literally and they create a 185 00:08:36,354 --> 00:08:39,794 Speaker 2: capture wardrobe. But I don't think it's really about that. 186 00:08:39,994 --> 00:08:42,514 Speaker 2: You can if that's your style and that's what you love, 187 00:08:43,314 --> 00:08:46,114 Speaker 2: but I feel like it's being more intentional with your 188 00:08:46,154 --> 00:08:51,154 Speaker 2: buying and your purchases for your lifestyle and your personal style. 189 00:08:51,674 --> 00:08:54,914 Speaker 2: Fashion and getting dressed is all about expressing yourself. 190 00:08:55,474 --> 00:08:57,514 Speaker 1: So if you doesn't have to be blue jeans and 191 00:08:57,514 --> 00:08:58,434 Speaker 1: a white no. 192 00:08:58,394 --> 00:09:00,394 Speaker 2: Not at all. And I feel like that is a 193 00:09:00,474 --> 00:09:03,514 Speaker 2: real myth. It's like you have to be you have 194 00:09:03,554 --> 00:09:06,434 Speaker 2: to have thirty seven items, including. 195 00:09:07,594 --> 00:09:10,754 Speaker 1: Many days an exactly. Yeah, it's funny because I'm a 196 00:09:10,754 --> 00:09:12,834 Speaker 1: trench and I'm a gene, but I'm not a black blazer. 197 00:09:12,874 --> 00:09:14,234 Speaker 1: But when this was a big thing, I was like, well, 198 00:09:14,274 --> 00:09:16,754 Speaker 1: that's going to solve every problem. And I warn it 199 00:09:16,794 --> 00:09:18,674 Speaker 1: twice because it's. 200 00:09:18,554 --> 00:09:21,674 Speaker 2: Just you may be like, okay, so I did the 201 00:09:21,754 --> 00:09:24,114 Speaker 2: same thing. I bought an over sized blazer. That's what 202 00:09:24,114 --> 00:09:28,274 Speaker 2: it's on trend, but an oversized blazer on my petite frame, yea, 203 00:09:28,314 --> 00:09:31,394 Speaker 2: and hate just doesn't work. But then I do love 204 00:09:31,394 --> 00:09:34,314 Speaker 2: a black blazer, so I went and got an hourglass 205 00:09:34,354 --> 00:09:37,994 Speaker 2: black blazer which FETs my proportions there. So you really 206 00:09:37,994 --> 00:09:41,594 Speaker 2: have to think about what suits you your body and 207 00:09:41,634 --> 00:09:42,994 Speaker 2: then you can go from there. 208 00:09:43,434 --> 00:09:45,234 Speaker 1: Okay, well that's really good because I kind of want 209 00:09:45,274 --> 00:09:48,754 Speaker 1: to understand the misconceptions or the mistakes people are making. 210 00:09:48,834 --> 00:09:51,554 Speaker 1: For example, I've got a girlfriend in my head. I 211 00:09:51,554 --> 00:09:53,154 Speaker 1: don't know if she has a Capture wardrobe, but I'm 212 00:09:53,154 --> 00:09:57,354 Speaker 1: assuming not. She is very flouncy, floral, very feminine. I 213 00:09:57,354 --> 00:09:59,714 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen her in gene. So can 214 00:09:59,754 --> 00:10:01,714 Speaker 1: she have her own capsule wardrobe? 215 00:10:01,754 --> 00:10:03,794 Speaker 2: Of course she can't. So I capture wardrobe as just 216 00:10:03,874 --> 00:10:08,034 Speaker 2: about having those core pieces that you not live without 217 00:10:08,514 --> 00:10:11,314 Speaker 2: that you need to get dressed in them moments. So 218 00:10:11,434 --> 00:10:14,514 Speaker 2: she might love a floaty dress, she needs that floaty 219 00:10:14,554 --> 00:10:18,074 Speaker 2: dress in her wardrobe and whatever. Then she pays back 220 00:10:18,114 --> 00:10:21,834 Speaker 2: with that a then I'm jackets some cowboy boots or 221 00:10:21,874 --> 00:10:24,594 Speaker 2: something she can have as aos items that you constantly 222 00:10:24,634 --> 00:10:25,994 Speaker 2: reach for. What are you reaching for? 223 00:10:26,354 --> 00:10:26,594 Speaker 1: Yeah? 224 00:10:26,794 --> 00:10:27,833 Speaker 2: Every day? 225 00:10:28,674 --> 00:10:31,114 Speaker 1: So maybe without the Jane she's stubbing in a beautiful 226 00:10:31,114 --> 00:10:33,914 Speaker 1: Maxi skirt when she's not wearing her dress exactly exactly. 227 00:10:34,074 --> 00:10:37,474 Speaker 2: But it's making sure that those items are thought about 228 00:10:37,514 --> 00:10:41,394 Speaker 2: they're intentional and the long lasting because you don't want 229 00:10:41,394 --> 00:10:44,354 Speaker 2: to be constantly buying those floaty dresses all the time. 230 00:10:44,434 --> 00:10:46,274 Speaker 2: And then you have a wardrobe full of items that 231 00:10:46,314 --> 00:10:47,114 Speaker 2: you're never going to wear. 232 00:10:47,314 --> 00:10:50,074 Speaker 1: But it's your capsule, so you're only supposed to have one. 233 00:10:50,114 --> 00:10:51,874 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's there's no rules, but if 234 00:10:51,874 --> 00:10:55,434 Speaker 1: that's your look, would you recommend or do you find that? 235 00:10:55,514 --> 00:10:58,394 Speaker 1: I guess people have maybe three pairs of jeens if 236 00:10:58,394 --> 00:11:01,314 Speaker 1: that's the thing, and three floaty skirts if that's their thing. 237 00:11:01,474 --> 00:11:04,034 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have to think about the capsual wardrobe, 238 00:11:04,354 --> 00:11:08,914 Speaker 2: like term feels really restricted. It's not supposed to have 239 00:11:08,954 --> 00:11:11,034 Speaker 2: a number attached to it. It's not supposed to have 240 00:11:11,074 --> 00:11:13,074 Speaker 2: a style attached to it. It's not supposed to have 241 00:11:13,114 --> 00:11:16,994 Speaker 2: a color palette attached to it. It's who represents you, 242 00:11:17,154 --> 00:11:20,914 Speaker 2: yes so, And it's also a capsule collection. It's not 243 00:11:20,994 --> 00:11:25,074 Speaker 2: a capsual wardrobe in terms. That's my only fifteen items 244 00:11:25,114 --> 00:11:25,914 Speaker 2: and that's. 245 00:11:25,634 --> 00:11:29,714 Speaker 1: It, right, It's the essential foundation, it's the building. 246 00:11:29,874 --> 00:11:32,514 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you might go, Okay, I need a great 247 00:11:32,634 --> 00:11:38,274 Speaker 2: gene to make me feel confident, comfortable. She needs a 248 00:11:38,314 --> 00:11:41,474 Speaker 2: great skirt to make her feel confident, And then you 249 00:11:41,514 --> 00:11:43,594 Speaker 2: kind of layer on top of that. Okay, I've found 250 00:11:44,394 --> 00:11:47,274 Speaker 2: my capsule pace. That makes me feel amazing. It makes 251 00:11:47,354 --> 00:11:50,114 Speaker 2: me feel confident that I can get through the day. 252 00:11:50,154 --> 00:11:52,114 Speaker 2: And yeah, you can build on that. You might go 253 00:11:52,154 --> 00:11:53,434 Speaker 2: for a trend color or. 254 00:11:53,754 --> 00:11:55,874 Speaker 1: So rd because you say those are all like layouts, 255 00:11:55,874 --> 00:11:57,514 Speaker 1: and then you think, Okay, well that's all I need 256 00:11:57,554 --> 00:11:59,514 Speaker 1: for the holiday. But it's like not really, you know. 257 00:11:59,834 --> 00:12:02,194 Speaker 2: No, I mean I feel like people create that kind 258 00:12:02,194 --> 00:12:05,474 Speaker 2: of content, like the challenges, like the K three Challenge 259 00:12:05,514 --> 00:12:08,874 Speaker 2: and then the thirty six Eye for three months, and 260 00:12:08,914 --> 00:12:11,154 Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, I get that. And maybe you are 261 00:12:11,154 --> 00:12:13,394 Speaker 2: a person that just needs a capture wardrobe. Maybe you 262 00:12:13,434 --> 00:12:15,234 Speaker 2: are in the office in a corporate. 263 00:12:14,874 --> 00:12:17,474 Speaker 1: Office into fashion. You just want to look good, feel 264 00:12:17,474 --> 00:12:18,434 Speaker 1: good and not think about it. 265 00:12:18,594 --> 00:12:20,914 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you you might have that capture wardrobe. I 266 00:12:20,954 --> 00:12:26,154 Speaker 2: love fashion. I need to add those playful pieces into it. 267 00:12:26,554 --> 00:12:29,754 Speaker 2: But I can only wear those playful pieces if I've 268 00:12:29,754 --> 00:12:32,754 Speaker 2: got my foundations right. Yes, and then I start with 269 00:12:32,794 --> 00:12:34,834 Speaker 2: the basics. I start with the bass, and then I 270 00:12:34,914 --> 00:12:37,034 Speaker 2: build on it. And my bass is always my capsual 271 00:12:37,034 --> 00:12:41,394 Speaker 2: wardrobe items, the things that I'm always drawn to that 272 00:12:41,474 --> 00:12:42,874 Speaker 2: I don't have to think about. 273 00:12:43,234 --> 00:12:48,354 Speaker 1: Those foundation pieces key, just get that done at the workhorses. 274 00:12:48,514 --> 00:12:50,634 Speaker 1: They make you feel comfortable, and then you add the icing. 275 00:12:50,914 --> 00:12:54,594 Speaker 2: Yes, like a fantastic jacket, and everybody is different. Like, 276 00:12:54,634 --> 00:12:56,714 Speaker 2: you know, I do love a black blazer, but you 277 00:12:56,794 --> 00:13:02,594 Speaker 2: might like love a green blazer maybe maybe, or whatever 278 00:13:02,714 --> 00:13:03,914 Speaker 2: lightweight jacket that you think. 279 00:13:03,994 --> 00:13:06,114 Speaker 1: So it took me three black blazers to realize it's 280 00:13:06,154 --> 00:13:09,154 Speaker 1: not the blazer the whole category that is. It could 281 00:13:09,194 --> 00:13:11,674 Speaker 1: be it just doesn't black. 282 00:13:12,474 --> 00:13:15,714 Speaker 2: It could be the fact that it's something structured, you know, 283 00:13:16,034 --> 00:13:18,234 Speaker 2: So it could be that structure or something that just 284 00:13:18,274 --> 00:13:21,074 Speaker 2: makes you feel like a boss, you know, or however 285 00:13:21,114 --> 00:13:23,354 Speaker 2: you want to feel. So it might not be a 286 00:13:23,354 --> 00:13:25,554 Speaker 2: black blazer. It may be it might just. 287 00:13:25,434 --> 00:13:27,274 Speaker 1: Be a silhouette. It might be super feminine. 288 00:13:28,154 --> 00:13:30,953 Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, but black blazers. Again, it's one 289 00:13:30,994 --> 00:13:35,354 Speaker 2: of those items that we've seen decade after decade after decade. 290 00:13:35,394 --> 00:13:37,674 Speaker 2: So now it becomes a classic. So what do you 291 00:13:37,754 --> 00:13:39,034 Speaker 2: how do you define a classic? 292 00:13:39,634 --> 00:13:41,234 Speaker 1: But even if it's a classic in the industry, you 293 00:13:41,234 --> 00:13:42,034 Speaker 1: don't have to mind one of. 294 00:13:42,034 --> 00:13:45,714 Speaker 2: Its God, and I feel like that seven years doing 295 00:13:45,914 --> 00:13:49,514 Speaker 2: practicing Cupture wardrobe, I feel like that is where people 296 00:13:49,634 --> 00:13:50,074 Speaker 2: do can. 297 00:13:50,034 --> 00:13:51,674 Speaker 1: Again, everyone comes to you and say, Okay, I've got 298 00:13:51,714 --> 00:13:52,994 Speaker 1: all the things that I saw on the picts world. 299 00:13:52,994 --> 00:13:55,314 Speaker 1: Why isn't it working? Yes, okay, So we understand that 300 00:13:55,314 --> 00:13:58,034 Speaker 1: a captural wardrobe is individual for everyone. But then at 301 00:13:58,034 --> 00:14:01,594 Speaker 1: the speed of light these days, trends, micro trends, cottage 302 00:14:01,594 --> 00:14:03,674 Speaker 1: court I don't know, all these trends come and go. 303 00:14:04,274 --> 00:14:07,754 Speaker 1: Can a person nail their capture wardrobe and still buy 304 00:14:07,754 --> 00:14:09,354 Speaker 1: into trends or you know, enjoy trends. 305 00:14:09,634 --> 00:14:13,514 Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, because you've got your code pieces and then 306 00:14:13,554 --> 00:14:16,194 Speaker 2: you can mix the march. You can buy those trend pieces. 307 00:14:16,274 --> 00:14:19,234 Speaker 2: That's what I love to do. Snake French shoes with 308 00:14:19,234 --> 00:14:21,834 Speaker 2: my classic black blazer on jeans. 309 00:14:22,194 --> 00:14:22,714 Speaker 1: Perfect. 310 00:14:23,154 --> 00:14:26,314 Speaker 2: I love to add me personally. I love to buy 311 00:14:26,314 --> 00:14:28,394 Speaker 2: into the accessories. When it comes to a trend or 312 00:14:28,434 --> 00:14:30,674 Speaker 2: what I was saying earlier, the blue maybe I'll get 313 00:14:30,674 --> 00:14:32,754 Speaker 2: some blue nails or a blue phone case. But if 314 00:14:32,794 --> 00:14:35,354 Speaker 2: you love trend, then yeah. But I think it's just 315 00:14:35,434 --> 00:14:38,794 Speaker 2: been a cultural wardrobe really is about being intentional with 316 00:14:38,834 --> 00:14:42,034 Speaker 2: your apoptosis. You know, it's identifying that, yes, that is 317 00:14:42,074 --> 00:14:42,554 Speaker 2: a trend. 318 00:14:42,914 --> 00:14:45,994 Speaker 1: I'm drawn to it. I'm not just doing it because. 319 00:14:45,754 --> 00:14:47,914 Speaker 2: But while I weigh it as well, because it's like 320 00:14:47,954 --> 00:14:52,394 Speaker 2: we we're getting so many avenues of influence these days, 321 00:14:52,434 --> 00:14:55,234 Speaker 2: it's really really easy to get drawn into it, like 322 00:14:55,354 --> 00:14:56,114 Speaker 2: the blue. 323 00:14:55,874 --> 00:14:58,554 Speaker 1: And absolutely and I think also, you know the capture wardrobe. 324 00:14:58,554 --> 00:15:00,634 Speaker 1: As we spoke about the restrictive one, there's no real 325 00:15:00,674 --> 00:15:02,594 Speaker 1: personal style there. But then if you're chopping and changing 326 00:15:02,594 --> 00:15:05,114 Speaker 1: every trend, there's no real personal style there. And then 327 00:15:05,114 --> 00:15:06,794 Speaker 1: if you're you know, trying to mess them together. 328 00:15:07,234 --> 00:15:11,434 Speaker 2: Then identifying if that trend suits your personal style. So 329 00:15:11,714 --> 00:15:14,674 Speaker 2: if Cowboy books comes into style, I'm never going to 330 00:15:14,674 --> 00:15:20,354 Speaker 2: be able to get into that trend, BUTND yes she might. 331 00:15:20,594 --> 00:15:23,634 Speaker 2: So it's it's identifying what trends relate to you and 332 00:15:23,674 --> 00:15:25,954 Speaker 2: your personal style. I'm buying into them. 333 00:15:26,754 --> 00:15:29,954 Speaker 1: Importantly. I loved the last episode what you do every day? 334 00:15:30,034 --> 00:15:35,394 Speaker 1: What do you actually do on the ground and how Yeah, exactly. 335 00:15:34,954 --> 00:15:36,954 Speaker 2: Like we've got the kids and we're doing this in 336 00:15:36,954 --> 00:15:39,434 Speaker 2: my school run and whatever. But it's also I am 337 00:15:39,474 --> 00:15:42,034 Speaker 2: looking at how I want to feel that day as well. 338 00:15:42,114 --> 00:15:43,874 Speaker 2: Do I want to coming here? I was like, I 339 00:15:43,914 --> 00:15:46,954 Speaker 2: want to feel comfortable, but I want to look sharp. Yes, 340 00:15:47,034 --> 00:15:49,354 Speaker 2: you know, I've got to make sure that I'm feeling 341 00:15:49,394 --> 00:15:52,474 Speaker 2: that feeling that day. Who am I going to be 342 00:15:52,554 --> 00:15:52,914 Speaker 2: that day? 343 00:15:52,954 --> 00:15:53,154 Speaker 1: Yeah? 344 00:15:53,194 --> 00:15:55,154 Speaker 2: So tomorrow I don't have anything on tomorrow, I'm just 345 00:15:55,154 --> 00:15:56,674 Speaker 2: going to be lazy. That lazy. 346 00:15:57,034 --> 00:16:01,034 Speaker 1: What does that look like for you? Go just attracts it, Ya, 347 00:16:01,754 --> 00:16:02,194 Speaker 1: that makes me. 348 00:16:03,434 --> 00:16:06,154 Speaker 2: Even at that. I remember having my first baby and 349 00:16:06,234 --> 00:16:08,794 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm living in tracks. So it's like 350 00:16:08,834 --> 00:16:10,434 Speaker 2: this minute in time, but I'm going to make sure 351 00:16:10,474 --> 00:16:14,194 Speaker 2: it's a bloody good cutcharck. So, because if you buy cheap, 352 00:16:14,674 --> 00:16:16,554 Speaker 2: you wear cheap, you feel cheap. 353 00:16:16,594 --> 00:16:17,954 Speaker 1: And then I'm more and more frequently. 354 00:16:19,034 --> 00:16:22,714 Speaker 2: So even if it as legings that you are aware 355 00:16:22,794 --> 00:16:24,834 Speaker 2: and make sure that a nice leg in the march on. 356 00:16:24,874 --> 00:16:27,074 Speaker 1: Top and you feel good and you feel good in them. 357 00:16:27,154 --> 00:16:29,034 Speaker 2: Yeah, about how you want to feel. 358 00:16:28,954 --> 00:16:30,954 Speaker 1: It's so true. It's all about how you want to feel, 359 00:16:31,034 --> 00:16:32,474 Speaker 1: who you want to be, and how you want to feel. 360 00:16:32,754 --> 00:16:35,594 Speaker 1: We talked before about the very prescriptive methods or ways 361 00:16:35,634 --> 00:16:38,194 Speaker 1: people can achieve having a capture wardrobe. But is there 362 00:16:38,234 --> 00:16:42,034 Speaker 1: a magic number? We often see numbers thrown around what 363 00:16:42,194 --> 00:16:44,954 Speaker 1: do you find or what works or just ignore that. 364 00:16:45,434 --> 00:16:48,594 Speaker 2: There's no mention even in the dictionary of how many 365 00:16:49,114 --> 00:16:51,954 Speaker 2: items that you should have in your Capture wardrobe. You know, 366 00:16:52,114 --> 00:16:54,754 Speaker 2: at the beginning, when I started my Capture wardrobe, John there, 367 00:16:54,834 --> 00:16:58,034 Speaker 2: I tried to keep my wardrobe under fifty items. 368 00:16:58,074 --> 00:17:01,314 Speaker 1: The whole wardrobe, my whole world. Dobe wait, just your capsule. 369 00:17:01,754 --> 00:17:05,394 Speaker 2: No, this was my whole wardrobe. Everything everything. 370 00:17:05,434 --> 00:17:08,154 Speaker 1: I try to it's just clothing, just clothing, yes, so 371 00:17:08,194 --> 00:17:09,154 Speaker 1: like top and bottom cover. 372 00:17:09,434 --> 00:17:12,114 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I tried to keep that doesn't work 373 00:17:12,114 --> 00:17:14,514 Speaker 2: for me. I love fashion. But as I say, if 374 00:17:14,554 --> 00:17:17,634 Speaker 2: you're in a career that you only like you know, 375 00:17:17,674 --> 00:17:20,074 Speaker 2: you're a NUS and you're in uniform. Do you need 376 00:17:20,114 --> 00:17:23,914 Speaker 2: that much? You have to again, like then. 377 00:17:23,714 --> 00:17:25,874 Speaker 1: You steal it that way because you kind of stripped 378 00:17:25,914 --> 00:17:28,554 Speaker 1: everything back, worked that out and then added from there. 379 00:17:28,794 --> 00:17:32,434 Speaker 2: Yes. So I really advise my clients take a step back. 380 00:17:32,554 --> 00:17:34,434 Speaker 1: Yes, don't go buy more things. 381 00:17:34,474 --> 00:17:36,794 Speaker 2: Don't go buy more things, take a step back. Look 382 00:17:36,794 --> 00:17:39,793 Speaker 2: at your wardrobe. Try everything on. You know, look at 383 00:17:39,834 --> 00:17:43,314 Speaker 2: the last two weeks, whatever you wore, what felt amazing 384 00:17:43,474 --> 00:17:44,434 Speaker 2: and what didn't? 385 00:17:44,554 --> 00:17:46,354 Speaker 1: Yes, why aren't you reaching for that thing? 386 00:17:46,554 --> 00:17:49,033 Speaker 2: Work on that, you know what I mean. So, and 387 00:17:49,074 --> 00:17:51,513 Speaker 2: then you can identify the gaps. You can identify I 388 00:17:51,514 --> 00:17:54,234 Speaker 2: need more texture in this, I need more structure. 389 00:17:53,954 --> 00:17:55,594 Speaker 1: Or I've got a lot of tops but not bottoms, 390 00:17:55,594 --> 00:17:57,874 Speaker 1: like I'm such a bottom first scenes, and. 391 00:17:58,754 --> 00:18:01,194 Speaker 2: Then that's where you start to kind of fell in 392 00:18:01,274 --> 00:18:05,514 Speaker 2: the garp. Yes and whatever it is that you how 393 00:18:05,594 --> 00:18:07,114 Speaker 2: you want to feel, how you want to sure. 394 00:18:07,354 --> 00:18:11,314 Speaker 1: Or even just how frequently do the washing exactly right. Yeah, 395 00:18:11,354 --> 00:18:13,914 Speaker 1: So it looks simple to get a capture wardrobe. You've 396 00:18:13,954 --> 00:18:16,434 Speaker 1: just got some classic basics, but it's not that simple. 397 00:18:16,474 --> 00:18:18,434 Speaker 1: As we've said, what are the common mistakes people make 398 00:18:18,474 --> 00:18:20,514 Speaker 1: when they're trying to aim for having one. 399 00:18:20,674 --> 00:18:25,154 Speaker 2: The biggest mistakes that people make. I think it's copying 400 00:18:25,194 --> 00:18:30,714 Speaker 2: other people, is copying the traditional or whatever capsual wardrobe 401 00:18:30,754 --> 00:18:33,793 Speaker 2: they are drawn to whatever pieces they are drawn to, 402 00:18:34,354 --> 00:18:37,354 Speaker 2: or you know, it's huge on Pinterest, as we say, 403 00:18:37,394 --> 00:18:39,674 Speaker 2: it's huge on every single platform. But you go into 404 00:18:40,074 --> 00:18:43,154 Speaker 2: Pinterest and there's always something on my face that pops 405 00:18:43,194 --> 00:18:45,754 Speaker 2: up and wardrobe and you're like, oh, I want to 406 00:18:45,754 --> 00:18:48,793 Speaker 2: look like her. I want to be that person. Yes, 407 00:18:48,834 --> 00:18:51,714 Speaker 2: but you're copying someday that looks nothing like you. 408 00:18:51,834 --> 00:18:54,714 Speaker 1: That is the proportion France exactly. 409 00:18:54,954 --> 00:18:58,394 Speaker 2: You know she's somewhere You're not taking who you are, 410 00:18:58,434 --> 00:19:02,874 Speaker 2: your body shape, you know your lifestyle, your your location 411 00:19:03,274 --> 00:19:08,034 Speaker 2: into consideration, so you might take into from a certain 412 00:19:08,074 --> 00:19:11,074 Speaker 2: type of aesthetics. So it might be like that kind 413 00:19:11,074 --> 00:19:15,794 Speaker 2: of minimal or the fringe capsule wardrobe or something like that. 414 00:19:15,994 --> 00:19:19,394 Speaker 1: Got a whole captual wardrobe. That's all other topic, so 415 00:19:19,674 --> 00:19:22,954 Speaker 1: not literally cutting and pasting from social media. 416 00:19:23,114 --> 00:19:26,154 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're completely different body shape from people out there. 417 00:19:26,194 --> 00:19:28,554 Speaker 2: You know, you have a different budget. You know, it's 418 00:19:28,634 --> 00:19:30,314 Speaker 2: kind of like the cargo pants I was talking about 419 00:19:30,394 --> 00:19:32,194 Speaker 2: las like I love them, but are they going to 420 00:19:32,274 --> 00:19:34,994 Speaker 2: suit me? Because I love a high waist and you know, 421 00:19:35,074 --> 00:19:38,954 Speaker 2: am petite and it's just kind of you Yeah, it's 422 00:19:38,994 --> 00:19:41,474 Speaker 2: kind of like, Okay, I do love that aesthetics, but 423 00:19:41,514 --> 00:19:45,194 Speaker 2: then it's finding with suits shure. And I also find 424 00:19:45,234 --> 00:19:47,553 Speaker 2: that people like they go for the classics, they'll go 425 00:19:47,594 --> 00:19:49,634 Speaker 2: for the classic trench, they'll go for the classic gene. 426 00:19:49,954 --> 00:19:52,474 Speaker 2: But your basics really don't have to be bored, and 427 00:19:52,634 --> 00:19:54,714 Speaker 2: it can be it. 428 00:19:54,674 --> 00:19:56,274 Speaker 1: Can be a barrel Jane exactly. 429 00:19:56,354 --> 00:19:59,434 Speaker 2: I'm wearing it. Yeah, I'm wearing a barrel gene. You know. 430 00:19:59,594 --> 00:20:03,554 Speaker 2: So I love anything that adds a bit of structure, 431 00:20:03,674 --> 00:20:07,074 Speaker 2: that adds a different element to that design. You know, 432 00:20:07,194 --> 00:20:08,034 Speaker 2: it just elevates. 433 00:20:08,074 --> 00:20:09,994 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be straight like because in the middle. 434 00:20:10,034 --> 00:20:11,874 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it doesn't have to It doesn't have to. 435 00:20:11,794 --> 00:20:14,714 Speaker 2: Be a crisp, quite shark like I hate Chris, but 436 00:20:14,714 --> 00:20:16,994 Speaker 2: it just doesn't look It doesn't look good on me, 437 00:20:17,034 --> 00:20:18,914 Speaker 2: and it's really it makes me look well, it's not 438 00:20:19,034 --> 00:20:20,354 Speaker 2: great with my skin to an eye. 439 00:20:20,714 --> 00:20:22,234 Speaker 1: I mean, I love a white shirt, but I don't 440 00:20:22,234 --> 00:20:23,313 Speaker 1: want them to be so crisp. 441 00:20:23,634 --> 00:20:26,313 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I got rid of on my white shots 442 00:20:26,314 --> 00:20:26,874 Speaker 2: at the beginning. 443 00:20:26,914 --> 00:20:28,434 Speaker 1: Once your version of it so. 444 00:20:28,714 --> 00:20:31,874 Speaker 2: Is just a cream silk shirt with a split at 445 00:20:31,874 --> 00:20:35,114 Speaker 2: the bar. That does me great, you know, But then 446 00:20:35,194 --> 00:20:38,594 Speaker 2: that person maybe really love a white shirt, so you 447 00:20:38,674 --> 00:20:40,234 Speaker 2: love that, you go for it. Yes, I love a 448 00:20:40,274 --> 00:20:43,394 Speaker 2: cream shot. Yes, with a bit of shinter a texture, 449 00:20:43,874 --> 00:20:44,194 Speaker 2: you know. 450 00:20:44,194 --> 00:20:46,834 Speaker 1: Exture the one thing I have. I don't think I've 451 00:20:46,834 --> 00:20:51,234 Speaker 1: ever seen on these capture wardrobes color. It's all very neutral. 452 00:20:51,314 --> 00:20:53,833 Speaker 1: So how do we if we love color or we're 453 00:20:53,914 --> 00:20:56,194 Speaker 1: drawn to color, but we want to simplify our wardrobe 454 00:20:56,194 --> 00:20:58,234 Speaker 1: by way of capture wardrobe? Can it be done? 455 00:20:58,594 --> 00:21:01,994 Speaker 2: Yes? Again, a great doesn't no mention that your capture 456 00:21:02,034 --> 00:21:04,234 Speaker 2: world needs to be beige. But I feel like that's 457 00:21:04,274 --> 00:21:07,674 Speaker 2: where the whole social media comes in, what makes the 458 00:21:08,634 --> 00:21:11,474 Speaker 2: boring and neutral. But I would I always do it. 459 00:21:11,474 --> 00:21:15,114 Speaker 2: If you love color, I would always suggest creating like 460 00:21:15,154 --> 00:21:18,354 Speaker 2: some kind of color parlote, yeah, so that they all 461 00:21:18,474 --> 00:21:21,994 Speaker 2: set together harmlessly, because that's what a capture wad was 462 00:21:22,034 --> 00:21:25,474 Speaker 2: about as well. It's making sure that your pieces fit together, 463 00:21:25,914 --> 00:21:28,794 Speaker 2: style together for loads of different occasions. 464 00:21:28,874 --> 00:21:30,994 Speaker 1: Not that one hot pink skirt that you love but. 465 00:21:30,994 --> 00:21:32,834 Speaker 2: You but you don't have anything to get it back with. 466 00:21:32,954 --> 00:21:34,793 Speaker 2: Or you might love that hot pink skirt and it 467 00:21:34,834 --> 00:21:37,553 Speaker 2: goes perfectly with the basic white tea. Yeah, you know, 468 00:21:37,714 --> 00:21:41,234 Speaker 2: so maybe you know, pick a color parlor of like 469 00:21:41,314 --> 00:21:44,914 Speaker 2: twelve colors and you can easily go on Pinterest and look. 470 00:21:44,714 --> 00:21:47,994 Speaker 1: At these, so you have there my navy and my. 471 00:21:49,674 --> 00:21:51,833 Speaker 2: Minds is black and white yours, you know. So so 472 00:21:51,874 --> 00:21:54,394 Speaker 2: then you love those earthy tones, you know you love those? 473 00:21:55,394 --> 00:21:57,714 Speaker 1: When I say color, I think, like, right, but they're 474 00:21:57,754 --> 00:22:01,074 Speaker 1: kind of like yeah, but yeah, whatever you like. 475 00:22:01,154 --> 00:22:04,593 Speaker 2: Are drawn to and I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, but 476 00:22:04,634 --> 00:22:08,114 Speaker 2: again it's just that right, Okay, I coming back to blazers, 477 00:22:08,154 --> 00:22:10,474 Speaker 2: but I do love a blazer, but you like. 478 00:22:10,754 --> 00:22:12,273 Speaker 1: Who We're not a blazer. I'm a bomber or. 479 00:22:12,234 --> 00:22:16,074 Speaker 2: A trend exactly perfect. But you may love our red bomber, 480 00:22:16,194 --> 00:22:18,074 Speaker 2: you know, I mean that she yours. But somebody might 481 00:22:18,154 --> 00:22:20,234 Speaker 2: love color. But I'm like, okay, you go for a 482 00:22:20,274 --> 00:22:23,354 Speaker 2: red blazer, then something that you're constantly weird in it. 483 00:22:23,594 --> 00:22:25,434 Speaker 2: You just go for that. Just make sure that your 484 00:22:25,474 --> 00:22:27,714 Speaker 2: color palette is tight, and you can't go on pants. 485 00:22:28,114 --> 00:22:30,513 Speaker 2: Put in color pala and faint a color piette that 486 00:22:30,594 --> 00:22:33,754 Speaker 2: really catches your eyes so you cannot dart. 487 00:22:33,914 --> 00:22:35,714 Speaker 1: It's not like that color doesn't go with that. You 488 00:22:35,714 --> 00:22:36,754 Speaker 1: wanted to make your life easier. 489 00:22:36,874 --> 00:22:40,034 Speaker 2: It's to meet your life easier, it really really is, 490 00:22:40,114 --> 00:22:43,154 Speaker 2: and not to be constantly over pot chasin like. 491 00:22:43,954 --> 00:22:46,554 Speaker 1: To fix it if it's not. If you're adding, having 492 00:22:46,554 --> 00:22:48,313 Speaker 1: to add and chop and change, it's not your capture yet. 493 00:22:48,354 --> 00:22:51,074 Speaker 1: You haven't got that. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, another problem 494 00:22:51,074 --> 00:22:53,674 Speaker 1: that I'm wondering if you see too or I guess 495 00:22:53,674 --> 00:22:55,674 Speaker 1: the misconception is like once you've got it, that's it 496 00:22:55,714 --> 00:22:57,874 Speaker 1: for life, but you will still need to update your 497 00:22:57,954 --> 00:23:01,033 Speaker 1: jeans or your cream shirt, right, Like it's not like 498 00:23:01,434 --> 00:23:04,714 Speaker 1: I have bought those things. Yeah, I'm yeah for life. 499 00:23:04,874 --> 00:23:08,033 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like a cupture Wade was always evolving 500 00:23:08,234 --> 00:23:12,314 Speaker 2: like your pieces. Like, because I'm in my Australian phase 501 00:23:12,394 --> 00:23:13,634 Speaker 2: like this whenut in time and. 502 00:23:13,594 --> 00:23:16,114 Speaker 1: I'm feeling frus heading into your first winter, Yeah. 503 00:23:15,954 --> 00:23:18,234 Speaker 2: And I am loving it and I'm loving how laid 504 00:23:18,314 --> 00:23:20,554 Speaker 2: back and relaxed as you know. And i look at 505 00:23:20,554 --> 00:23:24,914 Speaker 2: my old wardrobe UK wardrobe and I'm like, it doesn't 506 00:23:25,394 --> 00:23:28,794 Speaker 2: relate to my lifestyle now. So I'm in this phase 507 00:23:28,794 --> 00:23:30,914 Speaker 2: of my life. You might be in your new mom phase, 508 00:23:31,034 --> 00:23:34,033 Speaker 2: so your capture is completely different. It's certain times of 509 00:23:34,034 --> 00:23:37,034 Speaker 2: your life, so it evolves. Yeah. 510 00:23:37,074 --> 00:23:38,434 Speaker 1: I think if you can kind of look back or 511 00:23:38,514 --> 00:23:40,114 Speaker 1: take a bird's eye, you can still say a common 512 00:23:40,154 --> 00:23:42,194 Speaker 1: threat as to your personal style just might. 513 00:23:42,274 --> 00:23:45,874 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like my personal style is minimal, easy, comfortable. You know. 514 00:23:45,994 --> 00:23:47,834 Speaker 2: I love monochrome. 515 00:23:47,634 --> 00:23:54,634 Speaker 1: That's always always been and board shots. Yeah, definitely, you 516 00:23:54,674 --> 00:23:57,513 Speaker 1: haven't changed. You've not changed the environ. 517 00:23:57,754 --> 00:24:00,314 Speaker 2: Yes, adapt to the environment. Adapt to how I'm feeling, 518 00:24:00,554 --> 00:24:02,794 Speaker 2: you know, if I'm not If I'm i can wake 519 00:24:02,874 --> 00:24:05,234 Speaker 2: up one day and feel really bloated, or I've put 520 00:24:05,234 --> 00:24:07,793 Speaker 2: on a few pounds and you know, and I'm just 521 00:24:07,834 --> 00:24:09,594 Speaker 2: not going to wear what I was wearing a couple 522 00:24:09,634 --> 00:24:12,553 Speaker 2: of months ago. You know, so I might just go 523 00:24:12,634 --> 00:24:17,794 Speaker 2: into elastic waste trousers rather than my jeans. It's still 524 00:24:17,834 --> 00:24:21,874 Speaker 2: my aesthetic. It does definitely evolve of how you're feeling 525 00:24:21,914 --> 00:24:25,754 Speaker 2: where you are in your life. And I was really 526 00:24:25,794 --> 00:24:28,154 Speaker 2: strict at the beginning and I went for that core, 527 00:24:28,434 --> 00:24:31,833 Speaker 2: fringe vibe capsule wardrobe, and that's not me. I love fashion. 528 00:24:31,914 --> 00:24:34,074 Speaker 2: So then that's when I started like, Okay, I do 529 00:24:34,154 --> 00:24:37,114 Speaker 2: love this capsule wardrobe aesthetics, but I want to add 530 00:24:37,114 --> 00:24:39,714 Speaker 2: a bit more interest into this. And I started looking 531 00:24:39,714 --> 00:24:46,313 Speaker 2: at different structured blazers, split back shots, barrel legs, barrel 532 00:24:46,354 --> 00:24:48,954 Speaker 2: leg jeans, and I wanted the fun. It's like, I 533 00:24:48,994 --> 00:24:51,794 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people strip it right back 534 00:24:52,034 --> 00:24:56,114 Speaker 2: and make it boring and repetitive. But once you know 535 00:24:56,234 --> 00:24:59,074 Speaker 2: those key bits that you like and you'll constantly you 536 00:24:59,154 --> 00:25:01,114 Speaker 2: then add your personality into it. 537 00:25:01,194 --> 00:25:01,954 Speaker 1: Can still be. 538 00:25:02,594 --> 00:25:06,594 Speaker 2: Yes, but don't forget your personality, like, don't forget who 539 00:25:06,634 --> 00:25:07,074 Speaker 2: you are. 540 00:25:07,234 --> 00:25:08,754 Speaker 1: Which one's gonna show up in the morning or she's 541 00:25:08,754 --> 00:25:09,234 Speaker 1: gonna want to wear? 542 00:25:09,274 --> 00:25:11,434 Speaker 2: And that's how that's how it's amazing, that's how it's 543 00:25:11,514 --> 00:25:13,074 Speaker 2: really really key to go, how do I want to 544 00:25:13,074 --> 00:25:13,874 Speaker 2: feel today? Yes? 545 00:25:14,514 --> 00:25:15,194 Speaker 1: Who is she? 546 00:25:15,354 --> 00:25:16,194 Speaker 2: Who is she today. 547 00:25:16,554 --> 00:25:20,274 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, last one before we talk about 548 00:25:20,274 --> 00:25:24,994 Speaker 1: some fun products. What if you really love shopping, which 549 00:25:25,074 --> 00:25:26,394 Speaker 1: is not great for the environment. We know that, but 550 00:25:26,434 --> 00:25:29,394 Speaker 1: I like for me, I love thrifting. It's amazed any 551 00:25:29,394 --> 00:25:33,194 Speaker 1: capture wardrobe, so you know it's someone's passion point. They 552 00:25:33,234 --> 00:25:34,914 Speaker 1: are really into it, as opposed to you know, our 553 00:25:34,954 --> 00:25:38,074 Speaker 1: nurses or our lawyers that we've helped before. What does 554 00:25:38,114 --> 00:25:38,434 Speaker 1: she do? 555 00:25:39,114 --> 00:25:42,434 Speaker 2: That's me to be honest, what's in fashion? I walked 556 00:25:42,474 --> 00:25:45,354 Speaker 2: in fashion all my life. My husband said to me, 557 00:25:45,474 --> 00:25:47,754 Speaker 2: I would come home, I watked for talk Shop back 558 00:25:47,754 --> 00:25:49,513 Speaker 2: in the day. I was on Oxford Street with all 559 00:25:49,594 --> 00:25:52,394 Speaker 2: I would zig zag across the road into every single 560 00:25:52,554 --> 00:25:53,114 Speaker 2: store section. 561 00:25:53,194 --> 00:25:54,514 Speaker 1: It was just such a joy. 562 00:25:54,794 --> 00:25:57,554 Speaker 2: My husband said, every single day sum you would come 563 00:25:57,594 --> 00:26:00,674 Speaker 2: in with bugs. I would shop for I've got a 564 00:26:00,674 --> 00:26:03,194 Speaker 2: meeting Tomordrow, I need something new. I've got an event 565 00:26:03,234 --> 00:26:05,594 Speaker 2: at the weekend. I need something new. I was constantly, 566 00:26:05,674 --> 00:26:10,474 Speaker 2: constantly sharpen. So when I had my foster kid and 567 00:26:10,554 --> 00:26:13,874 Speaker 2: I moved from London to the country, it was a 568 00:26:13,914 --> 00:26:17,954 Speaker 2: whole mindset shift for me. It was an environment. It 569 00:26:18,074 --> 00:26:20,434 Speaker 2: was I've had kids like I used to lay my 570 00:26:20,514 --> 00:26:23,874 Speaker 2: stuff all out in the bed the night before. When 571 00:26:23,914 --> 00:26:26,594 Speaker 2: you've got a kid and your baby, that just doesn't happen. 572 00:26:27,354 --> 00:26:30,554 Speaker 2: So I really really really hard to change my mindset. 573 00:26:31,394 --> 00:26:34,674 Speaker 1: But that's not to say I still enjoy it. 574 00:26:34,794 --> 00:26:37,554 Speaker 2: You can't. Still I still love it. And I think 575 00:26:37,554 --> 00:26:39,834 Speaker 2: that's one of the mistakes that I made. I pulled 576 00:26:39,914 --> 00:26:42,954 Speaker 2: right back. I stripped everything. I went really minimal, and 577 00:26:42,994 --> 00:26:46,434 Speaker 2: I just stripped my personality. And fashion is all about fun. 578 00:26:46,274 --> 00:26:48,034 Speaker 1: Personal I get it, I'm sorry, and. 579 00:26:48,034 --> 00:26:51,874 Speaker 2: My dressing and my dressing and I'm quite allowed kind 580 00:26:51,874 --> 00:26:54,674 Speaker 2: of outgoing person so when I'm just turning up and really. 581 00:26:54,514 --> 00:26:56,314 Speaker 1: Basic, So you went too far? 582 00:26:56,474 --> 00:27:00,194 Speaker 2: I went yeah, and then and then I'm like, right, okay. 583 00:27:00,234 --> 00:27:03,714 Speaker 2: But I constantly asked myself the question do I really 584 00:27:03,714 --> 00:27:04,194 Speaker 2: need this? 585 00:27:04,674 --> 00:27:04,874 Speaker 1: Well? 586 00:27:04,954 --> 00:27:09,074 Speaker 2: I really wanted to, really really wanted Is it my ego? 587 00:27:09,234 --> 00:27:11,754 Speaker 2: This is the thing that I ask myself all the time. 588 00:27:12,034 --> 00:27:14,793 Speaker 2: Is it my ego that wants that you know? And 589 00:27:14,874 --> 00:27:17,874 Speaker 2: if nobody saw me in it, would I still buy it? 590 00:27:17,994 --> 00:27:18,314 Speaker 1: Yes? 591 00:27:18,434 --> 00:27:21,714 Speaker 2: It's all these questions that you ask yourself, Like, so 592 00:27:21,834 --> 00:27:26,513 Speaker 2: if I didn't have Instagram, would I still buy shoes? 593 00:27:26,794 --> 00:27:29,074 Speaker 1: Or people could know they can tell the label, but 594 00:27:29,114 --> 00:27:30,394 Speaker 1: if they couldn't would I not buy it? 595 00:27:30,674 --> 00:27:33,954 Speaker 2: Yes, And it's like, well I actually wear it in 596 00:27:33,994 --> 00:27:36,314 Speaker 2: my normal day to day life if it Disney, if 597 00:27:36,354 --> 00:27:38,034 Speaker 2: I cannot wear it to the school run, I'm not 598 00:27:38,034 --> 00:27:38,834 Speaker 2: saying I wear heels. 599 00:27:38,874 --> 00:27:41,634 Speaker 1: I'm completely stopped wearing heels. 600 00:27:41,714 --> 00:27:43,714 Speaker 2: But like if I see it, if I see a 601 00:27:43,714 --> 00:27:46,234 Speaker 2: Marxie Scott and I'm like, can I wheel that? Can 602 00:27:46,274 --> 00:27:48,234 Speaker 2: I wheel that to the bar? Can I wear it 603 00:27:48,234 --> 00:27:52,313 Speaker 2: too still run? Then yes, it belongs in my wardrobe. 604 00:27:52,354 --> 00:27:54,313 Speaker 1: I think for me also, I mean I do love shopping, 605 00:27:54,314 --> 00:27:58,074 Speaker 1: but I genuinely or generally love what I've bought now, 606 00:27:58,074 --> 00:27:59,834 Speaker 1: so I just got play in my wardrobe instead. Just 607 00:27:59,874 --> 00:28:01,234 Speaker 1: go play with the things you've already bought. 608 00:28:01,314 --> 00:28:03,834 Speaker 2: That's a massive cheft that I'm seeing as well. It's people, 609 00:28:03,874 --> 00:28:07,593 Speaker 2: It's it's how to style rather than buy, So how 610 00:28:07,634 --> 00:28:12,034 Speaker 2: to stale in different ways and of different things there, Yeah, 611 00:28:12,554 --> 00:28:15,274 Speaker 2: by playing with your wardrobe. And I do a lot 612 00:28:15,314 --> 00:28:17,194 Speaker 2: of that one Instagram as well. It's like how to 613 00:28:17,274 --> 00:28:20,874 Speaker 2: stale your wardrobe rather than buying to train And I 614 00:28:20,914 --> 00:28:22,154 Speaker 2: love it, and that is going to be things that 615 00:28:22,194 --> 00:28:23,794 Speaker 2: I'm going to buy. I love fashion. I'm not going 616 00:28:23,794 --> 00:28:26,914 Speaker 2: to stop myself, but I'm just more intentional, whether I 617 00:28:26,994 --> 00:28:28,594 Speaker 2: really think I don't take my phone to bed, like 618 00:28:28,634 --> 00:28:30,194 Speaker 2: I said in the last time, because that's when I 619 00:28:30,234 --> 00:28:32,154 Speaker 2: scroll and I buy. I did it the other day 620 00:28:32,154 --> 00:28:33,354 Speaker 2: there after a couple of wines. 621 00:28:33,794 --> 00:28:34,594 Speaker 1: Do you like what you bought? 622 00:28:34,714 --> 00:28:38,114 Speaker 2: No, I'm taking sending it back. Two things. One is 623 00:28:38,114 --> 00:28:38,834 Speaker 2: getting back. 624 00:28:38,714 --> 00:28:40,114 Speaker 1: You're still human. I love it. 625 00:28:40,114 --> 00:28:43,474 Speaker 2: So it's just really I like, yeah, it's just it's 626 00:28:43,554 --> 00:28:45,034 Speaker 2: just trying to be more intentional. 627 00:28:45,074 --> 00:28:47,034 Speaker 1: Yeah, turning on the thought instead of just kind of 628 00:28:47,074 --> 00:28:48,674 Speaker 1: doing it as a st It's a muscle. 629 00:28:48,714 --> 00:28:51,114 Speaker 2: You have to like really train yourself. 630 00:28:51,554 --> 00:28:53,834 Speaker 1: My real muscles first, and then I'll do that. So 631 00:28:53,914 --> 00:28:56,434 Speaker 1: coming up after the break, bougie two budget now three 632 00:28:56,554 --> 00:28:59,754 Speaker 1: items of the same category yours is in your capture wardrobe. 633 00:28:59,754 --> 00:29:03,794 Speaker 1: Trenches in my capture wardrobe. Maxi skirts, but the winter 634 00:29:21,674 --> 00:29:23,114 Speaker 1: it's very expensive. 635 00:29:23,914 --> 00:29:26,914 Speaker 2: How wonder. 636 00:29:27,354 --> 00:29:30,034 Speaker 1: Okay, So I love a Maxi skirt, but more so 637 00:29:30,154 --> 00:29:33,314 Speaker 1: for the colder months because I just feel like in summer, well, firstly, 638 00:29:33,314 --> 00:29:35,954 Speaker 1: I'm just too sweaty. I love a short, really, but 639 00:29:36,114 --> 00:29:39,034 Speaker 1: a Maxi skirt with a loafer or like a little 640 00:29:39,034 --> 00:29:44,274 Speaker 1: pointy kitten here atually and I'm just it's comfortable. Yeah, 641 00:29:44,354 --> 00:29:46,034 Speaker 1: you can just pull them up to wee because I 642 00:29:46,074 --> 00:29:49,874 Speaker 1: wear a lot and ideally pockets if I had a 643 00:29:49,914 --> 00:29:53,754 Speaker 1: dollar for every message or eBay, I'm saying, hi, lovely, 644 00:29:53,834 --> 00:29:56,834 Speaker 1: does this have pockets? You know? Oftentimes they go sooner, 645 00:29:56,914 --> 00:29:59,594 Speaker 1: some don't. So I wear them with literally a T 646 00:29:59,674 --> 00:30:01,874 Speaker 1: shirt and my bomba or my dam jacket all my 647 00:30:01,954 --> 00:30:04,954 Speaker 1: trench or a chunky knit or a thin knit. And 648 00:30:04,954 --> 00:30:06,674 Speaker 1: that's where I get the most out of my Maxi 649 00:30:06,754 --> 00:30:08,234 Speaker 1: dresses that I already have a cell because they're a 650 00:30:08,234 --> 00:30:11,234 Speaker 1: skirt for winter exactly. Oh, I just love it. Three 651 00:30:11,234 --> 00:30:13,634 Speaker 1: skirts that I love. I'm going to start with affordable. 652 00:30:13,714 --> 00:30:16,554 Speaker 1: The h nam a circular maxiskirt. It's forty nine ninety five. 653 00:30:16,554 --> 00:30:18,674 Speaker 1: It comes in a beautiful I think they call it 654 00:30:18,674 --> 00:30:20,434 Speaker 1: like a khaki color. I kind of call that like 655 00:30:20,474 --> 00:30:24,474 Speaker 1: a bony khaki and another color heaven mid range. I don't 656 00:30:24,514 --> 00:30:26,154 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna buy now that I've spoken to you, 657 00:30:26,194 --> 00:30:28,514 Speaker 1: but I mean it's obsessed, but it's not my personal style. 658 00:30:28,554 --> 00:30:32,274 Speaker 1: It's the top Shop check print full circle Maxi skirt. 659 00:30:32,274 --> 00:30:34,594 Speaker 1: That's a big word that's got its ninety nine ninety 660 00:30:34,634 --> 00:30:37,674 Speaker 1: five very It's like it's a full length circle. Skirts 661 00:30:37,674 --> 00:30:41,394 Speaker 1: are very swishy. I love swishy, but I'm not swishy 662 00:30:41,434 --> 00:30:44,114 Speaker 1: because then I trip over if I'm going yeah, yeah, yeah, 663 00:30:44,234 --> 00:30:46,754 Speaker 1: I bought one, but I don't think a check and 664 00:30:47,714 --> 00:30:50,274 Speaker 1: would just annoy you. Well, that's it, and I just 665 00:30:50,314 --> 00:30:53,074 Speaker 1: think that's too maybe two things that would restrict me 666 00:30:53,114 --> 00:30:55,354 Speaker 1: from wearing it a lot. I do love a check skirt, 667 00:30:55,554 --> 00:30:57,674 Speaker 1: but I think that and a lot of fabric. 668 00:30:57,714 --> 00:31:02,114 Speaker 2: I mean it's beautiful, like a nineties minimal Meddi or something. 669 00:31:03,234 --> 00:31:06,954 Speaker 1: Media calls no, I can't, but I just think the 670 00:31:07,114 --> 00:31:10,314 Speaker 1: it a beautiful We're seing checked skirts every where that yeah, 671 00:31:10,474 --> 00:31:13,034 Speaker 1: that's just a beautiful cut for nineteen ninety five. And 672 00:31:13,074 --> 00:31:15,394 Speaker 1: then my high end I have a version of it's 673 00:31:15,434 --> 00:31:19,154 Speaker 1: the Bianca Spender black cotton nostalgia skirt. It's four hundred 674 00:31:19,154 --> 00:31:21,994 Speaker 1: and ninety five dollars. But Bianca Spender is the most 675 00:31:22,074 --> 00:31:24,994 Speaker 1: phenomenal quality. I've got a very similar skirt to that 676 00:31:25,034 --> 00:31:28,754 Speaker 1: one that's like a again, a cart to check. Oh 677 00:31:28,754 --> 00:31:31,194 Speaker 1: my gosh. Banka Spender is like phenomenal. So Carla's and 678 00:31:31,194 --> 00:31:33,434 Speaker 1: Patty have you heard of her. She's a very famous 679 00:31:33,474 --> 00:31:36,754 Speaker 1: nostalgic Australian designer. This is her daughter and they're expensive, 680 00:31:36,754 --> 00:31:39,074 Speaker 1: but it's this most beautiful poplin cotton, but not in 681 00:31:39,114 --> 00:31:42,634 Speaker 1: a creasy way. A line pocket, but it's got the 682 00:31:42,674 --> 00:31:44,594 Speaker 1: paper bag wast it's kind of got a tie up 683 00:31:44,594 --> 00:31:47,834 Speaker 1: little belt. This one's a bit different. Pockets. Oh, the 684 00:31:47,914 --> 00:31:50,474 Speaker 1: age that one has pockets and the Bianca Spender one 685 00:31:50,514 --> 00:31:53,354 Speaker 1: both have pockets Top Shop wearsyr pockets, but I'm just 686 00:31:53,394 --> 00:31:55,114 Speaker 1: gonna wear those with you know, a tank and a 687 00:31:55,194 --> 00:31:57,954 Speaker 1: jacket or a T shirt or honestly. 688 00:31:57,554 --> 00:31:58,874 Speaker 2: There's nothing. 689 00:31:58,874 --> 00:31:59,714 Speaker 1: You're elasticated. 690 00:31:59,834 --> 00:32:00,354 Speaker 2: Oh, I know. 691 00:32:02,314 --> 00:32:03,754 Speaker 1: You can walk in Swiss and you don't. And you 692 00:32:03,794 --> 00:32:05,194 Speaker 1: don't even have to shave your legs because they're long. 693 00:32:05,274 --> 00:32:07,674 Speaker 2: I wore a Marxistkaart and Marxisko the other day there 694 00:32:07,674 --> 00:32:10,074 Speaker 2: with my loafers, and I felt really really because I 695 00:32:10,114 --> 00:32:11,554 Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's something cold, I need to put 696 00:32:11,554 --> 00:32:15,154 Speaker 2: my thong sandals away, and I'm like, but actually it 697 00:32:15,314 --> 00:32:19,754 Speaker 2: went amazingly, So maybe that's a uniform that I can 698 00:32:19,754 --> 00:32:20,434 Speaker 2: get into as. 699 00:32:20,354 --> 00:32:22,394 Speaker 1: Well, and it doesn't get that cold here. However, I 700 00:32:22,434 --> 00:32:24,994 Speaker 1: do sometimes wear if I'm wearing quite a summary dress 701 00:32:24,994 --> 00:32:26,514 Speaker 1: that I want to make wintry, I do wear like 702 00:32:26,514 --> 00:32:28,794 Speaker 1: a little thermal, like a little un goo underneath. 703 00:32:29,754 --> 00:32:30,074 Speaker 2: I love you. 704 00:32:30,354 --> 00:32:32,874 Speaker 1: One needs to talk to me about trench coats because 705 00:32:32,914 --> 00:32:35,834 Speaker 1: I too love trenches. Do you need any more because 706 00:32:35,834 --> 00:32:36,154 Speaker 1: I don't. 707 00:32:36,634 --> 00:32:39,754 Speaker 2: I don't. I've got mine salted, but I did trench 708 00:32:39,794 --> 00:32:43,234 Speaker 2: air it on Instagram the other day there and I 709 00:32:43,354 --> 00:32:45,674 Speaker 2: just searched the whole of all the Australian brands and 710 00:32:45,714 --> 00:32:47,474 Speaker 2: I've seen some absolute gorgeous ones. 711 00:32:47,634 --> 00:32:49,874 Speaker 1: Should we start with your affordable one? 712 00:32:50,034 --> 00:32:53,154 Speaker 2: The affordable ones or Zara Zara have done so. I 713 00:32:53,194 --> 00:32:58,074 Speaker 2: am loving anything that is no your traditional beige not yes, no, 714 00:32:58,314 --> 00:33:00,434 Speaker 2: I mean I love them. I've got one I will 715 00:33:00,474 --> 00:33:01,194 Speaker 2: be wearing that. 716 00:33:01,194 --> 00:33:03,514 Speaker 1: That's easy to take, but it's yeah, nic yes. 717 00:33:03,274 --> 00:33:07,794 Speaker 2: But I'm loving gray, khaki black. I've got a black one, 718 00:33:08,114 --> 00:33:10,154 Speaker 2: but if I was in the market to get one, 719 00:33:10,234 --> 00:33:14,114 Speaker 2: it would be gray or khaka and both. Like Zara 720 00:33:14,154 --> 00:33:16,714 Speaker 2: has got an amazing selection of all trained cheese. But 721 00:33:16,834 --> 00:33:20,354 Speaker 2: if they get this gorgeous belted gray one and a 722 00:33:20,434 --> 00:33:23,874 Speaker 2: khaki as well as such affordable prices, one thing I 723 00:33:23,914 --> 00:33:25,794 Speaker 2: would say, in terms of trend cheese to get that 724 00:33:25,914 --> 00:33:29,194 Speaker 2: kind of volume is feeling that exaggerated look is maybe 725 00:33:29,234 --> 00:33:33,114 Speaker 2: size up one size belt, make it all kind of structure. 726 00:33:33,114 --> 00:33:35,074 Speaker 1: And also I think you know, it doesn't get really 727 00:33:35,074 --> 00:33:36,674 Speaker 1: cold here, but you might travel, you might go down 728 00:33:36,714 --> 00:33:38,874 Speaker 1: to Testmania. If you're not from Tesstmania, you might want 729 00:33:38,914 --> 00:33:41,714 Speaker 1: to wear chunky and it's underneath these y it doesn't 730 00:33:41,714 --> 00:33:44,954 Speaker 1: really like we only need attrench that's it. Yeah, amazing, amazing, 731 00:33:45,234 --> 00:33:46,394 Speaker 1: So I think it's always handy. 732 00:33:46,514 --> 00:33:49,434 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that you can Yeah, we're chunking it under it. 733 00:33:49,474 --> 00:33:52,474 Speaker 2: But even just having that volume really just makes the 734 00:33:52,514 --> 00:33:56,434 Speaker 2: proportions and belt and it just those strong shoulders that nipped. 735 00:33:56,194 --> 00:33:58,314 Speaker 1: And waste mine of that because I chuck living on 736 00:33:58,394 --> 00:34:02,914 Speaker 1: over my pajamas to drop my somen. Literally, my parents 737 00:34:02,954 --> 00:34:05,034 Speaker 1: are not canna see what's going on today. Mid Range? 738 00:34:05,074 --> 00:34:05,594 Speaker 1: What do you got? 739 00:34:06,114 --> 00:34:07,794 Speaker 2: Mid range? It's for market. 740 00:34:07,834 --> 00:34:10,154 Speaker 1: It's a black one, the one you aren't give us 741 00:34:10,154 --> 00:34:12,234 Speaker 1: a quick rundown of our kit because you know it's 742 00:34:12,354 --> 00:34:14,314 Speaker 1: quite new to Australia. We can get it now on 743 00:34:14,354 --> 00:34:14,794 Speaker 1: the Iconic. 744 00:34:15,034 --> 00:34:17,114 Speaker 2: You can get it now in the Iconic. It's just 745 00:34:17,154 --> 00:34:19,953 Speaker 2: a kind of really condensed range. Yeah, but they were 746 00:34:19,954 --> 00:34:22,754 Speaker 2: my go tos back in the UK for those amazing 747 00:34:22,914 --> 00:34:28,234 Speaker 2: basic pieces, basic good quality. So they have the basics 748 00:34:28,474 --> 00:34:32,034 Speaker 2: range kind of thing like that will have those foundation pieces, 749 00:34:32,074 --> 00:34:34,674 Speaker 2: but then they will step into kind of trend pieces 750 00:34:34,674 --> 00:34:35,034 Speaker 2: so I. 751 00:34:35,314 --> 00:34:38,354 Speaker 1: Can see level of kind of price and quality. 752 00:34:38,474 --> 00:34:42,873 Speaker 2: I would say here assembly label of Assembly Label. So 753 00:34:42,994 --> 00:34:45,913 Speaker 2: I am so drawn to Assembly Label because our Keut 754 00:34:46,394 --> 00:34:48,314 Speaker 2: was my go to for jeans, for t shirts for 755 00:34:48,394 --> 00:34:52,634 Speaker 2: giants and now it's like Assembly Label. So that does 756 00:34:52,674 --> 00:34:55,354 Speaker 2: actually take me on too, like the ones that I 757 00:34:55,474 --> 00:34:59,754 Speaker 2: have chose from Australian labels, and Assembly Label has an 758 00:34:59,794 --> 00:35:02,994 Speaker 2: amazing trend in store at this minute and time, and 759 00:35:03,394 --> 00:35:06,154 Speaker 2: you know their quality is just fantastic for the price. 760 00:35:06,234 --> 00:35:10,194 Speaker 2: The craftsmanship even like the design is just so classic. 761 00:35:10,394 --> 00:35:12,914 Speaker 1: Yes, I love getting your perspective too as a newbie 762 00:35:12,954 --> 00:35:15,674 Speaker 1: to Australia because we if you're born here are in 763 00:35:15,674 --> 00:35:17,873 Speaker 1: fashion for a while, you kind of have that like 764 00:35:17,994 --> 00:35:20,114 Speaker 1: history of like, oh that brand wasn't cool and nowadays 765 00:35:20,194 --> 00:35:21,794 Speaker 1: or now they're doing great and you just are coming 766 00:35:21,834 --> 00:35:23,393 Speaker 1: in fresh going that brand's great. 767 00:35:23,754 --> 00:35:26,074 Speaker 2: Yeah fresh y, Yeah, it's really yeah, because I I 768 00:35:26,354 --> 00:35:28,274 Speaker 2: don't wear up, especially in the summer in the winter 769 00:35:28,354 --> 00:35:30,714 Speaker 2: as well. It's like I have my elevated pieces, but 770 00:35:30,714 --> 00:35:34,314 Speaker 2: I also have my really key core pieces and when 771 00:35:34,314 --> 00:35:37,634 Speaker 2: I look at when I look out Assembly Label, I'm 772 00:35:37,634 --> 00:35:40,154 Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, I'll have one of us with them. 773 00:35:40,314 --> 00:35:43,834 Speaker 1: And too the fancy one. What's your fancy trench? Oh 774 00:35:43,874 --> 00:35:44,234 Speaker 1: my god? 775 00:35:44,274 --> 00:35:46,714 Speaker 2: Can I I have two on my lowed two you're allowed. 776 00:35:47,634 --> 00:35:51,474 Speaker 2: There's a gray one with like like real structured shoulders 777 00:35:51,554 --> 00:35:55,913 Speaker 2: neptan waste from Camella and Mark. Oh, it's incredible. I 778 00:35:55,994 --> 00:35:58,913 Speaker 2: wish I could afford that, and I wish. 779 00:35:58,514 --> 00:35:59,714 Speaker 1: Do you know roughly how much to that one? 780 00:35:59,874 --> 00:36:01,474 Speaker 2: I think it's about eight hundred dollars. 781 00:36:01,474 --> 00:36:04,634 Speaker 1: Well some of them got up to like oney one hundred, so. 782 00:36:04,154 --> 00:36:06,714 Speaker 2: So that's not bad. Okay, I'll sell some. 783 00:36:06,754 --> 00:36:08,674 Speaker 1: Clo that's not a trench. But I do have one 784 00:36:08,714 --> 00:36:11,234 Speaker 1: of their longer coats. It's still got oversized. I've had 785 00:36:11,354 --> 00:36:13,154 Speaker 1: four years and I flogged it looks brand new. 786 00:36:13,274 --> 00:36:15,794 Speaker 2: I am obsessed with this brand. I'm just it's obviously 787 00:36:15,794 --> 00:36:18,473 Speaker 2: about Bourgie, so I've not I've not bought into it. Yeah, 788 00:36:18,514 --> 00:36:20,194 Speaker 2: I really need to think about it. If those pieces 789 00:36:20,234 --> 00:36:22,514 Speaker 2: messing and then I may buy into it. But then 790 00:36:22,554 --> 00:36:26,834 Speaker 2: I've also seen this green trench from Friends with Frank, 791 00:36:27,394 --> 00:36:29,473 Speaker 2: another brand that I am absolutely loving. 792 00:36:29,514 --> 00:36:32,594 Speaker 1: But you get green, khaki green or like khaki green. Yeah. 793 00:36:32,754 --> 00:36:36,114 Speaker 2: Oh, it's just stunning and I'm just again, it's just like, oh, 794 00:36:36,434 --> 00:36:38,913 Speaker 2: the structure of the shape, the volume is just going 795 00:36:38,994 --> 00:36:41,473 Speaker 2: to make your pajamas look fun toast. 796 00:36:41,594 --> 00:36:45,074 Speaker 1: Your passion is so adorable. Let me just quickly clarify 797 00:36:45,114 --> 00:36:46,594 Speaker 1: before we finish where we're talking trends. Do you mean 798 00:36:46,634 --> 00:36:50,754 Speaker 1: like long line like obviously the ankle. Yes, we're then, 799 00:36:50,874 --> 00:36:51,953 Speaker 1: and we're not doing crops at the moment. 800 00:36:52,034 --> 00:36:55,354 Speaker 2: No, No, I am thinking those big you know, volume 801 00:36:55,474 --> 00:37:00,873 Speaker 2: is trenches, yeah, yeah, big lapels, yes, so that's it. 802 00:37:01,034 --> 00:37:03,794 Speaker 2: And again, you don't have to go classic and go 803 00:37:03,874 --> 00:37:07,314 Speaker 2: for your classic beige colored trench in your class see 804 00:37:07,394 --> 00:37:10,954 Speaker 2: you know, pretty barbery. Yes, you know, get some volume 805 00:37:11,034 --> 00:37:16,114 Speaker 2: and texture and structured into that and a different colors green, black, gray, 806 00:37:16,354 --> 00:37:16,874 Speaker 2: I'm loving. 807 00:37:17,074 --> 00:37:19,234 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I cannot wait to get my trench out. 808 00:37:19,274 --> 00:37:21,714 Speaker 1: It's time. It's getting cold. U. Sam, You're amazing. I 809 00:37:21,794 --> 00:37:25,474 Speaker 1: love you make cue, You make fashion not scary simple 810 00:37:25,514 --> 00:37:27,194 Speaker 1: and you kind of maybe want to stop shopping, which 811 00:37:27,194 --> 00:37:28,114 Speaker 1: is amazing. 812 00:37:29,354 --> 00:37:31,034 Speaker 2: Did you're bestudd? Thank you. 813 00:37:32,074 --> 00:37:33,993 Speaker 1: That's it for today. I hope that was helpful. I'm 814 00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:36,114 Speaker 1: off into my wardrobe to try my trenches on with 815 00:37:36,274 --> 00:37:39,554 Speaker 1: my Maxi skirts. 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