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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mum and mea podcast. Good morning,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Quickie. I'm Clare Murphy. A week ago,

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Speaker 1: the Guthrie family, including their famous sister Savannah Guthrie, host

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Speaker 1: of the US Today Show, were told that their mum

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Speaker 1: didn't turn up for church on Sunday. Police began to

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Speaker 1: investigate y eighty four year old Nancy Guthrie didn't attend

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Speaker 1: the Sunday service. When they arrived at her home, they

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Speaker 1: say the scene was a great cause for concern. Today

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Speaker 1: we crossed to the US to find out the latest

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Speaker 1: on the missing person's case that is baffled investigators, blood

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Speaker 1: somewhere out there without her daily medication. Before we get

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Speaker 1: into that, here's the latest from the Quikie newsroom, Monday,

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Speaker 1: February nine. The Coalition is now officially back together, but

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Speaker 1: Susan Lee's leadership is still hanging in the balance. Lee

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Speaker 1: and sish she has the overwhelming support of her party

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Speaker 1: room after striking a deal with the Nationals to restore

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Speaker 1: the coalition. The bitter almost three weeks split sparked by

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Speaker 1: a disagreement over hate speech laws, meanting the coalition partnership

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Speaker 1: could give Lee some breathing room to reassert her leadership

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Speaker 1: of the Liberal Party after the separation amplified rumblings of

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Speaker 1: a potential challenge, but with Nationals front benches returning to

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Speaker 1: the shadow cabinet, it also means Miss Lee can no

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Speaker 1: longer offer promotions to key Liberals to shore up her position.

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Speaker 1: Former Shadow treasurer Angus Taylor has firmed as a potential

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Speaker 1: challenger after fellow leadership aspirer and Andrew Hasty bowed out

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Speaker 1: of the race. Liberal sources say they thought mister Taylor

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Speaker 1: could move a spill as soon as the coming week

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Speaker 1: if opinion poll showed the coalition falling even further behind

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Speaker 1: one nation. On Sunday night, a Newspoll's survey published in

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Speaker 1: The Australian showed the coalition's primary vote dropping to a

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Speaker 1: new law of seventeen percent, down from twenty one percent.

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Speaker 1: In mid January, Israeli President Isaac Herzog will begin his

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Speaker 1: visit to Australia in response to the Bondai massacre, against

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Speaker 1: a backdrop of nationwide protests and calls for his arrest.

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Speaker 1: The head of state begins his official visit in Sydney

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Speaker 1: today after an invitation from the Albernese government following the

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Speaker 1: terrorist attack which targeted a Jewish Hunnaker celebration on December fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: The Islamic State inspired father and son gunmen killed fifteen

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Speaker 1: people and wounded more than forty others. Mister Herzog will

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Speaker 1: meet with politicians and Jewish community leaders, some of who

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Speaker 1: say the figurehead's visit will bring great comfort, but other

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Speaker 1: groups oppose him setting foot on Australian soil, calling for

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Speaker 1: federal police to investigate the Israeli president for alleged war crimes.

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Speaker 1: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nettnyaho is subject to an international

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Speaker 1: criminal court arrest warrant for mister Herzog is not, and

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Speaker 1: is granted customary immunity under international law. As a visiting

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Speaker 1: head of state, the President's role is largely ceremonial, but

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Speaker 1: he has sparked outrage for being photographed signing an Israeli

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Speaker 1: artillery shell. He apologized later, saying it was an error.

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Speaker 1: A United Nations inquiry found his comments after the Hamas

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Speaker 1: Terra attack on Israel on October seven, twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: out there that is responsible to reasonably be interpreted as

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Speaker 1: incitement for genocide. Residents of Western Australia's Northwest Cape have

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Speaker 1: battened down the hatches as downgraded tropical cyclone Mitchell pummels

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Speaker 1: Exmouth Shire's president Matthew Nikola told AAP that he hasn't

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Speaker 1: it's the darkness and screaming winds that are the most frightening.

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Speaker 1: Gascoygne Canarvon Denim and Gascoyne Junction today before weakening as

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Speaker 1: it moves inland. American downhill skier Lindsay Vaughn's heroic quest

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Speaker 1: one of the feel good stories of the Games, recently

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Speaker 1: happening in the world today. Next, the case of a

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Speaker 1: TV show host's mom held for ransom.

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Speaker 2: We two have heard the reports about a ransom letter

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Speaker 2: in the media. As a family, we are doing everything

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Speaker 3: We are ready to talk.

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Speaker 2: Mama, if you're listening, we need you to come home.

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Speaker 3: We missed you.

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Speaker 1: That's the Guthrie siblings. Sister Savannah, the host of the

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Speaker 1: of her sister and brother desperately asking for their mum

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Speaker 1: to be returned to them. Eighty four year old Nancy

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Speaker 1: Guthrie was dropped off by her family members at around

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Speaker 1: nine thirty PM on Saturday, January thirty first, when she

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Speaker 1: didn't make it to church. On Sunday, police were dismatched

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Speaker 1: Mary Coleman, from one of the newsrooms who received it,

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Speaker 4: Some very sensitive information and things that people who weren't

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Speaker 4: are things that are concerning. We immediately send that information

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Speaker 4: over to the Sheriff's department and they are of course

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Speaker 4: looking into the legitimacy of it.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, there have also been reports of

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Speaker 5: We will investigate and ensure you were held accountable for

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Speaker 5: your actions. We have made one arrest related to an

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Speaker 5: impost ransom demand and a complaint will be presented to

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Speaker 5: a magistrate and judge. You will get more on that

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Speaker 1: That's Heath Jankie, FBI Phoenix's Special Agent in charge of

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Speaker 1: the investment mitigation. Now we'll cross to the US to

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Speaker 1: get the latest on this case. Justin Pizzeria is a

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Speaker 1: the same network that Savannah Guthrie works for. Justin I

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Speaker 1: understand the Guthrie family have released another video saying they

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Speaker 1: will pay the ransom to have their mother return home.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that is one of the latest videos that they

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Speaker 6: the Sheriff's office would only say that they were aware

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Speaker 6: And so then you know, you saw another post by

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Speaker 6: and then you saw the third one, you know, saying

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Speaker 6: just to see that come out and then say we'll

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Speaker 1: From that original ransom note that was sent out to

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Speaker 1: but do we know any other information from that note?

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Speaker 3: So there was an amount millions of dollars in bitcoin.

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Speaker 6: We don't have an exact dollar amount, but that's what

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Speaker 6: haven't been able to see the ransom note, but from

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Speaker 6: it spells out specific things that only the investigators would

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Speaker 6: so the investigators have really kept a lot of things

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Speaker 6: you know, that would give some validity to this, because

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Speaker 6: it was suspicious when they got into the home. We

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Speaker 6: so if that ransom note did give specifics about the home,

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Speaker 6: you know, then that really kind of gave some validity

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Speaker 1: Now, the FBI have been speaking and apparently there was

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Speaker 6: You know that one is it was from what they're

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Speaker 6: saying here, it did say apparently that if this ransom,

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Speaker 3: It didn't go into detail.

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Speaker 6: They wouldn't go into detail about what that actually was,

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Speaker 6: but they did follow up in One of the reporters

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Speaker 6: it was that first ransom note that's getting most of

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Speaker 3: Here right now.

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Speaker 1: There was some blood found on the front porch of

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Speaker 1: Nancy's home and that was sent away for testing. Do

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Speaker 1: we know anything further about that yet?

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Speaker 3: It was hers, That's what they're saying. It was her blood.

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Speaker 6: So and apparently they had to take it to there

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Speaker 6: were some issues with sampling the DNA in Tucson, and

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Speaker 6: come back as Nancy's.

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Speaker 1: Though, justin what's the latest in this investigation? I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're hearing lots of different things. The ring doorbell camera,

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Speaker 1: they checked it's not monitored, so they couldn't use that.

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Speaker 1: They told Nancy's car from her garage that maybe other

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Speaker 1: hammers from the area had also been removed. But what's

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Speaker 3: So we know last night, which would be Saturday night

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Speaker 3: Savannah's sister, the other daughter, and investigators were there for

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Speaker 3: quite some time searching, taking pictures, you know, our teams

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Speaker 3: what they were taking photos of, so that is still

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Speaker 3: a mystery. But again this is the fact that they

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Speaker 6: Seeing some movement, but so we have so many questions

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Speaker 1: Is there a speculation that the sister is involved somehow

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Speaker 6: Before, So there is speculation that it's Annie's husband. And

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Speaker 1: Justin what's it been like on the scene at Nancy's home.

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Speaker 1: There must be so much activity, and we've seen pictures

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Speaker 6: You know? So I got the call she went missing

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Speaker 6: It was me and my photographer, and it was eerie.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's very eerie. Her home sets back off

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Speaker 6: Because you know exactly what happened in there, or you're

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Speaker 3: Wasn't good. We know that.

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Speaker 6: And so just to know that that was there, and

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Speaker 6: And then the next time I went out, it was

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Speaker 6: She was in tears, you know, because she's she's friends

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Speaker 3: She lives in a very remote area.

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Speaker 6: That's one of the questions that I get a lot

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Speaker 6: And it If you could drive the road that she's on,

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Speaker 6: So one of the things, it's a dark sky community.

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Speaker 6: You know that they would have to know that that

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Speaker 6: You know. I did ask the sheriff that I was like,

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Speaker 1: Woman justin Thank you so much for giving us the

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much anytime, anytime, we're just hoping for

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