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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mea podcast. Momma Mea acknowledges the

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Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is

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Speaker 1: recorded on. This is the summer series of The Quickie.

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Speaker 1: I'm Claire Murphy joined by producer Taylor Strano, and we're

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Speaker 1: getting all up inside our relationships today.

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Speaker 2: We're all off in our feels Claire celebrity relationships. We

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Speaker 2: should preface we might be into the new year now,

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Speaker 2: but I've been taking the time over this holiday period

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Speaker 2: to reflect on some of the biggest stories from last year,

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Speaker 2: and that includes basically anything that Taylor Swift did, said

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Speaker 2: war or went.

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Speaker 1: To Yeah, we really got obsessed with her this year,

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Speaker 1: but she did come to the country.

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Speaker 3: So that's fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Look, when you're that famous, anything you can do can

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Speaker 1: be turned into worldwide news, from watching your boyfriend play

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Speaker 1: footy to embracing your cat lady status and endorsing Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: Including when you definitely did not break up with that

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Speaker 2: boyfriend even though there was a fake relationship contract that

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, top line about that story, including our exclusive

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Speaker 1: interview with Travis Kelsey's pr agent. That interview actually went

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Speaker 3: I think we ended up in Germany.

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Speaker 1: My friend is German and she sent me a screenshot

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Speaker 1: Quickie written in an article alongside Travis Kelsey's name.

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Speaker 2: Taylor and Trav, as far as we know, are still

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Speaker 2: going strong, but it did rock people to their cause.

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Speaker 2: But there were actually other celebrity couples that did stuff

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Speaker 2: last year as well. I hate to break it to

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Speaker 2: it wasn't just all Taylor and Travis centric they would

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Speaker 2: luckily we actually don't have to think too hard about

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Speaker 2: that because our mates over at Mamma Mere's daily pop

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Speaker 2: culture podcast, The Spill, they've already done all the heavy

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Speaker 1: And look, I know you just said that Taylor and

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Speaker 1: Travis are still together, but that contract cited March and

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Speaker 1: we're not in March yet. So watch this.

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Speaker 4: There will be an episode of the We will be.

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Speaker 3: An episode of The Quickie on that day.

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Speaker 1: Rodnick and m Vernon have looked back on the biggest

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Speaker 1: celebrity breakups and relationships of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Check it out from Mom and Maya. Welcome to the

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Speaker 3: Spill your daily pop culture fix.

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Speaker 4: I'm m Venom and I'm Laura Brodnick.

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Speaker 3: If you're a bit surprised on why you're hearing me

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Speaker 3: right now, I have good news for you. Because you're

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Speaker 3: having such a well deserved break. We know you're still

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Speaker 3: for you, for the next three weeks, we are putting

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Speaker 3: on a hot Pod summer, So it's kind of like

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Speaker 3: Brad Summer, except we're doing whatever we want. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: give you content that helps you get you through the

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Speaker 3: whole of Christmas, the whole of New Year's. We know

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Speaker 3: not everyone enjoys a holiday, so hopefully this is like

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Speaker 3: This episode, we decided to talk about the biggest celebrity

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Speaker 4: Yes, so breakups, get togethers, or just relationships that have

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Speaker 4: Oh, for these are breakups. These are the biggest breakups

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Speaker 4: That's the scene we're setting to read out the couples

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Speaker 3: And then like that timing of the divorce was just perfect.

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Speaker 4: All those tattoos, and so everyone, I don't know people

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Speaker 4: So the iconic wedding photo where it's got Drew Barrymore

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Speaker 4: Calm down exactly. So, as we said in this episode,

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Speaker 4: this year, that rocked us to our core, And unfortunately

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Speaker 4: this one had a bit of a sad ending. Maybe

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Speaker 4: And we're talking, how agree would that be in twenty

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Speaker 3: I just love how you're so positive that we'll be

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Speaker 4: I definitely would. I'm gonna die studio, I think.

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Speaker 4: This year, Jennifer Lopez filed for divorce from Ben Affleck

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Speaker 4: Ben just wants to live a private life. To that,

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Speaker 4: And then in May, they weren't photographed together for forty

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Speaker 4: Like where are they?

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Speaker 4: That was a beautiful moment in time. He was moving

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Speaker 4: She's got cutoutsverywhere, but she kept them. She's like those

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Speaker 4: Again, thank you very.

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Speaker 3: Much as a true boss. And then they will pictured

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Speaker 4: Yes, Then they went on the brunch. I mean, this

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Speaker 4: know what, I hope that she falls madly in love

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Speaker 4: But you know, if she goes again for a big wedding,

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Speaker 4: That was my Ben and Jen manifesto that yes, I

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Speaker 4: You know how people say, like, what could you give

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Speaker 4: I know so much about it. Okay, which celebrity relationship

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Speaker 4: It's how I'm described I wouldn't say rocked me to

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Speaker 3: The one I found most Like, I'm gonna be honest,

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, that little fairy baby girl and that dirty

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Speaker 3: So let's take it back to like late last year.

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Speaker 3: That's the movie that I think internationally Bary Yogan was

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Speaker 4: just following the script. But the graveyard scene where he

442
00:18:20,694 --> 00:18:23,654
Speaker 4: has sex with the dirt above the grave, no one

443
00:18:23,734 --> 00:18:24,534
Speaker 4: knew he was going to do that.

444
00:18:24,454 --> 00:18:25,614
Speaker 3: That wasn't in the script.

445
00:18:25,694 --> 00:18:27,414
Speaker 4: He just asked for this set to be cleared and

446
00:18:27,414 --> 00:18:30,494
Speaker 4: said I want to try something, and the production team said, okay,

447
00:18:31,094 --> 00:18:33,294
Speaker 4: we can try something if you want. Didn't tell anyone,

448
00:18:33,374 --> 00:18:35,134
Speaker 4: and then did that and it stayed in the movie.

449
00:18:35,174 --> 00:18:36,974
Speaker 4: Isn't the wildest thing if you're the camera man just

450
00:18:37,054 --> 00:18:38,374
Speaker 4: being like, I'm sorry, what's happening?

451
00:18:38,534 --> 00:18:40,654
Speaker 3: I reckon? Only a man could do that. I loved it.

452
00:18:41,854 --> 00:18:45,014
Speaker 3: So that movie literally went viral, like it was everywhere.

453
00:18:45,294 --> 00:18:47,734
Speaker 3: Around that same time, someone else was going a bit viral.

454
00:18:47,774 --> 00:18:51,374
Speaker 3: Her name was Sabrina Carpenter. So Sabrina Carpenter started off

455
00:18:51,374 --> 00:18:54,534
Speaker 3: as like a Disney girl acting singing, and then she

456
00:18:54,734 --> 00:18:57,814
Speaker 3: just kind of threw herself into singing and it's not

457
00:18:57,894 --> 00:18:59,974
Speaker 3: just like singing, like I feel like this was the

458
00:19:00,014 --> 00:19:03,334
Speaker 3: era where like alternative music was really taking off, and

459
00:19:03,414 --> 00:19:05,774
Speaker 3: she just went completely mainstream and she's like, no, I'm

460
00:19:05,774 --> 00:19:07,174
Speaker 3: a pop girl. I'm want to be a pop star.

461
00:19:07,734 --> 00:19:12,014
Speaker 3: Everyone loved her for it. Songs were quite like I

462
00:19:12,054 --> 00:19:14,774
Speaker 3: know I'm a beautiful woman, yeah, and I am proud

463
00:19:14,814 --> 00:19:16,534
Speaker 3: of my sexuality.

464
00:19:16,454 --> 00:19:18,214
Speaker 4: And everyone wants me and I'm hot and then I

465
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Speaker 4: say it's fair enough and that's true.

466
00:19:19,974 --> 00:19:21,694
Speaker 3: And it was like fun. She was like in her

467
00:19:21,734 --> 00:19:25,334
Speaker 3: early twenties. She was like tiny, tiny, skinny girl, big

468
00:19:25,534 --> 00:19:29,214
Speaker 3: blonde curls, lots of blush, lots of blush and dream

469
00:19:29,334 --> 00:19:32,174
Speaker 3: really it's like really hot. So that was happening at

470
00:19:32,174 --> 00:19:36,134
Speaker 3: the same time. Also during this time, Sabrina Carpenter was

471
00:19:36,214 --> 00:19:39,654
Speaker 3: dating Sean Mendes, who we've known for a while now.

472
00:19:39,774 --> 00:19:43,134
Speaker 3: He's been on again, off again with Camilla Bayo. This

473
00:19:43,254 --> 00:19:45,534
Speaker 3: time Barakogon also had a girlfriend and he had a

474
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Speaker 3: son with this girlfriend. Yes, they both split up around

475
00:19:48,494 --> 00:19:51,334
Speaker 3: the same time, so we have single Sabrina Carpenter, single

476
00:19:51,374 --> 00:19:54,974
Speaker 3: Barry Kiogan. We then start seeing early this year like

477
00:19:55,054 --> 00:19:57,534
Speaker 3: photos of them going on like little dates, like they

478
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Speaker 3: were holding hands. They were like kind of not really kissing,

479
00:20:00,614 --> 00:20:03,614
Speaker 3: but just like spotted together. They didn't make any statements

480
00:20:03,734 --> 00:20:08,494
Speaker 3: or anything until we come to the Oscars after party.

481
00:20:08,894 --> 00:20:13,134
Speaker 3: Where they were pictured together. But more importantly, Barry Kyogan

482
00:20:13,374 --> 00:20:16,734
Speaker 3: was pictured with the Friendship bracelet on that said Sabrina

483
00:20:16,814 --> 00:20:19,494
Speaker 3: on it. Wow, do you remember that iconic photo of

484
00:20:19,574 --> 00:20:22,454
Speaker 3: like at the Oscars after party? Because we first get

485
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Speaker 3: like the Oscars and we get like all the celebrities

486
00:20:24,614 --> 00:20:26,014
Speaker 3: lining up for the photos, but then we get the

487
00:20:26,014 --> 00:20:28,014
Speaker 3: same thing for the just before the after party. Yes,

488
00:20:28,054 --> 00:20:30,094
Speaker 3: it's yes, but it's like more rush. So they have

489
00:20:30,214 --> 00:20:32,614
Speaker 3: like a few spots set up like alongside each other,

490
00:20:32,654 --> 00:20:35,694
Speaker 3: and like Sabrina is standing next to Barry, but they're

491
00:20:35,694 --> 00:20:38,094
Speaker 3: like in separate sections and he's just like watching her

492
00:20:38,254 --> 00:20:41,094
Speaker 3: get photographed like that was like with like just a

493
00:20:41,094 --> 00:20:44,414
Speaker 3: look of adoration. That's like every girl's dream little face.

494
00:20:44,614 --> 00:20:47,294
Speaker 3: So then like it was pretty obvious that they were official.

495
00:20:47,574 --> 00:20:51,494
Speaker 3: He started watching her like sets they were at Coachella together,

496
00:20:51,534 --> 00:20:54,814
Speaker 3: which was like the first I guess, public appearance. She

497
00:20:54,974 --> 00:20:57,454
Speaker 3: also made a little like note in one of her

498
00:20:57,494 --> 00:20:59,734
Speaker 3: songs about him. She said drinking my bath wader like

499
00:20:59,774 --> 00:21:03,454
Speaker 3: it's red wine, which was quite sexy if you're into

500
00:21:03,454 --> 00:21:06,494
Speaker 3: those sort of things. They like probably debuted, I would say,

501
00:21:06,494 --> 00:21:08,934
Speaker 3: at the met Gala this year in May. Yes, they

502
00:21:08,974 --> 00:21:11,694
Speaker 3: were like spotted together greeting each other. They didn't get

503
00:21:11,694 --> 00:21:14,694
Speaker 3: ready together, but they like met each other before, yes, because.

504
00:21:14,534 --> 00:21:16,894
Speaker 4: Vogue was doing it, but they get ready with me Siri,

505
00:21:17,374 --> 00:21:19,334
Speaker 4: and they filmed her like he came into the room

506
00:21:19,334 --> 00:21:20,974
Speaker 4: and he kind of peaks again. He always looks like

507
00:21:21,054 --> 00:21:22,974
Speaker 4: just like a Leprecorn who's been like.

508
00:21:24,134 --> 00:21:25,934
Speaker 3: Willie Wonka, which I don't know why they were doing that,

509
00:21:26,094 --> 00:21:26,294
Speaker 3: but he.

510
00:21:26,254 --> 00:21:29,414
Speaker 4: Always looks so mischievous, but also like he's being caught unawares,

511
00:21:29,454 --> 00:21:31,374
Speaker 4: even though like there's a whole Vogue camera crew, like

512
00:21:31,374 --> 00:21:33,894
Speaker 4: a little Leprecorn who's like someone's found his pot of gold.

513
00:21:34,174 --> 00:21:36,014
Speaker 4: And like they come over and have a little hug,

514
00:21:36,054 --> 00:21:38,334
Speaker 4: and he looks all, you know, as if like, oh,

515
00:21:38,454 --> 00:21:40,494
Speaker 4: like I'm just here by chance. They're obviously like staying

516
00:21:40,534 --> 00:21:42,614
Speaker 4: at the hotel together, and like their swits were like

517
00:21:42,734 --> 00:21:43,814
Speaker 4: had at a connecting door.

518
00:21:44,014 --> 00:21:46,174
Speaker 3: They did walk the carpet separately though, but then came

519
00:21:46,214 --> 00:21:48,334
Speaker 3: in for a few photos together, kind of like Poor

520
00:21:48,374 --> 00:21:50,494
Speaker 3: Mescal and Phoebe Bridges and those like photos that will

521
00:21:50,494 --> 00:21:53,894
Speaker 3: go down in history. Yeah, and then like the biggest

522
00:21:53,894 --> 00:21:55,894
Speaker 3: thing they did as a couple was she had him

523
00:21:55,894 --> 00:21:58,934
Speaker 3: a star in her music video Please Please please yes,

524
00:21:59,534 --> 00:22:02,974
Speaker 3: the very sexy video. It was clearly the song about him.

525
00:22:03,214 --> 00:22:05,694
Speaker 3: She doesn't want him to embarrass her like he did

526
00:22:05,734 --> 00:22:08,654
Speaker 3: with his girlfriend who he shares a child with. It

527
00:22:08,734 --> 00:22:10,774
Speaker 3: was so interesting because I feel like, very similar to

528
00:22:11,134 --> 00:22:14,654
Speaker 3: Jlo and Ben Affleck. There's been a lot of commentary

529
00:22:14,854 --> 00:22:18,854
Speaker 3: about like how she's now like over sexualized and she

530
00:22:19,094 --> 00:22:21,974
Speaker 3: stole like this man away from his family and like

531
00:22:22,014 --> 00:22:25,214
Speaker 3: his child, and it's never on him like he left.

532
00:22:25,774 --> 00:22:27,734
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well, I mean we don't know what happened,

533
00:22:27,734 --> 00:22:29,254
Speaker 4: but I do like that, like how with the bunch

534
00:22:29,254 --> 00:22:30,934
Speaker 4: of authority so that he left her.

535
00:22:31,534 --> 00:22:34,894
Speaker 3: Asn't like that relationship ended and then they started dating.

536
00:22:34,974 --> 00:22:36,614
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he does talk about the fact that he

537
00:22:36,654 --> 00:22:39,294
Speaker 4: doesn't see his son as much as like he previously did.

538
00:22:39,334 --> 00:22:41,374
Speaker 4: I think his ex girlfriend has posted about being a

539
00:22:41,374 --> 00:22:43,294
Speaker 4: single mum and then she had to delete it because

540
00:22:43,294 --> 00:22:45,054
Speaker 4: fans got angry and all that sort of backlash. But

541
00:22:45,054 --> 00:22:46,814
Speaker 4: you're right, like we don't know what's happening in their

542
00:22:46,854 --> 00:22:49,494
Speaker 4: personal circumstances, but it's always this thing of like she

543
00:22:49,654 --> 00:22:52,254
Speaker 4: lured him away from his girlfriend and child, whereas we

544
00:22:52,294 --> 00:22:54,294
Speaker 4: don't know if that's what happened, but it's just this

545
00:22:54,334 --> 00:22:56,854
Speaker 4: whole thing because she's got this sexy persona, and some of.

546
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Speaker 3: Her lyrics are a bit awkward, talking about really like

547
00:22:59,374 --> 00:23:02,894
Speaker 3: I feel like Espresso, where she says, so Espresso was

548
00:23:02,934 --> 00:23:06,054
Speaker 3: like a song that she launched during Coachella, like she

549
00:23:06,054 --> 00:23:07,014
Speaker 3: played it for the first time and.

550
00:23:06,974 --> 00:23:11,894
Speaker 4: That I kind of hope you like it, Gazella, this

551
00:23:11,974 --> 00:23:14,694
Speaker 4: is Espresso, and look, they did like it.

552
00:23:14,814 --> 00:23:16,854
Speaker 3: They did like it, so they were pretty much together

553
00:23:16,934 --> 00:23:21,214
Speaker 3: by this time. And these lyrics are just really mean, Okay,

554
00:23:21,374 --> 00:23:23,734
Speaker 3: too bad your ex don't do it for you, walked

555
00:23:23,774 --> 00:23:25,974
Speaker 3: in and dreams came true for your soft skin and

556
00:23:26,054 --> 00:23:27,294
Speaker 3: I perfumed it for you.

557
00:23:27,694 --> 00:23:30,614
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I sing along to this song all the time.

558
00:23:30,814 --> 00:23:32,494
Speaker 4: I never actually stopped to think about what Some of

559
00:23:32,534 --> 00:23:33,414
Speaker 4: the lyrics were.

560
00:23:33,374 --> 00:23:35,134
Speaker 3: Too bad to x And that's not even just like

561
00:23:35,134 --> 00:23:37,734
Speaker 3: a standard, that's like the chorus. She says it a

562
00:23:37,774 --> 00:23:38,254
Speaker 3: few times.

563
00:23:38,334 --> 00:23:40,894
Speaker 4: She's really wanting to like Nail at Home. It's interesting too,

564
00:23:41,014 --> 00:23:43,534
Speaker 4: the Please Please Please video because of them like breaking

565
00:23:43,534 --> 00:23:46,294
Speaker 4: out of prison together and being all sexy Bonnie and Clyde,

566
00:23:46,614 --> 00:23:49,214
Speaker 4: and when she was asked about how did she persuade him,

567
00:23:49,254 --> 00:23:50,894
Speaker 4: and she's like, I didn't persuade him he wanted to

568
00:23:50,894 --> 00:23:53,134
Speaker 4: do it, and then she said, I had access to

569
00:23:53,174 --> 00:23:54,254
Speaker 4: the best actor.

570
00:23:53,934 --> 00:23:54,414
Speaker 3: In the world.

571
00:23:54,414 --> 00:23:57,134
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't I use him making it all? You know,

572
00:23:57,214 --> 00:23:59,014
Speaker 4: this whole thing about like it was just his acting

573
00:23:59,054 --> 00:24:00,734
Speaker 4: skills they wanted there, and I was like, I know

574
00:24:00,734 --> 00:24:01,214
Speaker 4: what you're doing.

575
00:24:01,294 --> 00:24:02,494
Speaker 3: They're two kids in love.

576
00:24:02,774 --> 00:24:04,734
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again I'm into it. I love it.

577
00:24:04,774 --> 00:24:07,014
Speaker 3: Look, I'm into it. It's going to end so badly

578
00:24:07,054 --> 00:24:09,374
Speaker 3: for them. So I don't think it's going to end badly.

579
00:24:09,374 --> 00:24:11,494
Speaker 4: I think they're just gonna because there's no at this

580
00:24:11,534 --> 00:24:13,294
Speaker 4: stage of the game, and there's no big wedding, there's

581
00:24:13,294 --> 00:24:14,694
Speaker 4: no that sort of stuff. Like it's like they're just

582
00:24:14,694 --> 00:24:17,894
Speaker 4: playing in the Internet lore almost of it in terms

583
00:24:17,894 --> 00:24:20,934
Speaker 4: of she'll post things and he'll like very publicly post

584
00:24:21,174 --> 00:24:23,294
Speaker 4: on her page and be like, you look sexy, Darlin,

585
00:24:23,374 --> 00:24:25,974
Speaker 4: I like that dress, Dalin, all that kind of stuff,

586
00:24:26,014 --> 00:24:28,414
Speaker 4: and when they break up, they'll just have this like

587
00:24:28,574 --> 00:24:31,054
Speaker 4: iconic music video that people loved at the time. She'll

588
00:24:31,094 --> 00:24:33,574
Speaker 4: write another song about him, he'll go date another hot woman.

589
00:24:33,694 --> 00:24:35,214
Speaker 4: Like I actually think they'll come out of this fine

590
00:24:35,494 --> 00:24:37,494
Speaker 4: when they eventually break up, and it'll just be this

591
00:24:37,534 --> 00:24:40,534
Speaker 4: thing where they just both build more Internet and music

592
00:24:40,574 --> 00:24:41,774
Speaker 4: content off the back of it.

593
00:24:41,774 --> 00:24:43,454
Speaker 3: But they'll both come out of it looking good. I

594
00:24:43,574 --> 00:24:46,374
Speaker 3: just know that if she breaks up with him, he's

595
00:24:46,414 --> 00:24:49,694
Speaker 3: going to be all over her Instagram and the most embarrassing, he's.

596
00:24:49,574 --> 00:24:51,774
Speaker 4: All over it now, like almost too much. Sometimes they're

597
00:24:51,774 --> 00:24:53,974
Speaker 4: like pull back, but it is that whole like my

598
00:24:54,054 --> 00:24:54,614
Speaker 4: Dalin things.

599
00:24:54,934 --> 00:24:57,774
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll give them a passa n.

600
00:24:59,734 --> 00:25:03,094
Speaker 4: So the other relationship that I feel deserves our attention

601
00:25:03,214 --> 00:25:06,854
Speaker 4: in this episode from twenty twenty four is Ryan Reynolds

602
00:25:06,854 --> 00:25:07,654
Speaker 4: and Blake Lively.

603
00:25:08,294 --> 00:25:10,214
Speaker 3: Oh that's such good one.

604
00:25:10,534 --> 00:25:13,214
Speaker 4: We're not sort of going into, you know, the backlash

605
00:25:13,214 --> 00:25:15,814
Speaker 4: around Blake Lively warranted or not. I mean, well, this

606
00:25:15,894 --> 00:25:18,494
Speaker 4: is leads into that. But what I think is so

607
00:25:18,654 --> 00:25:21,174
Speaker 4: interesting about this couple even though they are not a

608
00:25:21,214 --> 00:25:23,014
Speaker 4: new couple, they've been together for a really long time,

609
00:25:23,094 --> 00:25:25,934
Speaker 4: they have four children now, and they didn't have a breakup.

610
00:25:26,334 --> 00:25:29,894
Speaker 4: Their relationship still went through an immense change this year,

611
00:25:29,894 --> 00:25:31,414
Speaker 4: which is why I think they're so interesting.

612
00:25:31,494 --> 00:25:34,614
Speaker 3: I think the public perception of their relationship did a

613
00:25:34,734 --> 00:25:35,974
Speaker 3: huge like one.

614
00:25:35,974 --> 00:25:39,534
Speaker 4: Eight yes, and due in huge part to marketing that

615
00:25:39,574 --> 00:25:43,134
Speaker 4: had always worked for them before, so leading into this year,

616
00:25:43,534 --> 00:25:46,734
Speaker 4: they're one of the most beloved celebrity couples around. People

617
00:25:46,774 --> 00:25:49,134
Speaker 4: love all those photos that walking through New York together,

618
00:25:49,214 --> 00:25:52,814
Speaker 4: hugging and kissing. As I said, they welcomed their fourth child,

619
00:25:52,894 --> 00:25:55,974
Speaker 4: their first little boy. They talk about each other in

620
00:25:55,974 --> 00:25:57,694
Speaker 4: interviews in such a sweet way, and they have this

621
00:25:57,774 --> 00:26:00,854
Speaker 4: real rivalry too. I think people like it's a bit embarrassing,

622
00:26:00,894 --> 00:26:03,454
Speaker 4: but people liked it that there's like previously to this,

623
00:26:03,934 --> 00:26:06,574
Speaker 4: their relationship on Instagram, where they would like poke fun

624
00:26:06,614 --> 00:26:08,574
Speaker 4: at each other, cut each other out of photos, all

625
00:26:08,654 --> 00:26:10,254
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff where you either loved it or

626
00:26:10,254 --> 00:26:12,894
Speaker 4: you thought it was embarrassing, but most people really loved it,

627
00:26:13,374 --> 00:26:17,294
Speaker 4: and their joint energy around their relationship was very solid.

628
00:26:17,534 --> 00:26:20,014
Speaker 4: And so when it came out that they both had

629
00:26:20,214 --> 00:26:23,734
Speaker 4: huge movies debuting within like a few weeks of each other,

630
00:26:24,094 --> 00:26:26,774
Speaker 4: it seemed like this was kind of their golden ticket

631
00:26:26,854 --> 00:26:30,014
Speaker 4: to becoming this the ultimate celebrity couple, because you had

632
00:26:30,054 --> 00:26:31,774
Speaker 4: dead Pool and Woulverine your I'm going to say your

633
00:26:31,814 --> 00:26:33,054
Speaker 4: favorite movie of the year.

634
00:26:33,414 --> 00:26:36,494
Speaker 3: That yeah, I would say, yeah, top ten, top.

635
00:26:36,294 --> 00:26:39,254
Speaker 4: Ten, And so that was his movie with Hugh Jackman,

636
00:26:39,534 --> 00:26:41,454
Speaker 4: and then her movie It Ends with Us, And there

637
00:26:41,534 --> 00:26:43,014
Speaker 4: was so much build up to that because it's based

638
00:26:43,014 --> 00:26:45,014
Speaker 4: on such a beloved book. She hadn't sort of had

639
00:26:45,014 --> 00:26:46,934
Speaker 4: a big leading role like that for a while. So

640
00:26:47,134 --> 00:26:49,134
Speaker 4: for a while there, it seemed that this was going

641
00:26:49,214 --> 00:26:51,934
Speaker 4: to be the perfect situation because they were asked about

642
00:26:51,934 --> 00:26:54,534
Speaker 4: each other on their press tours because dead Pool Wouverine

643
00:26:54,574 --> 00:26:57,334
Speaker 4: came out first, but it was kind of leading into

644
00:26:57,334 --> 00:26:59,734
Speaker 4: the moment when It ends with Us was about to start.

645
00:26:59,734 --> 00:27:01,854
Speaker 3: So they had a lot of crossover where one of.

646
00:27:01,854 --> 00:27:04,054
Speaker 4: Them would do like a radio TV spot one day

647
00:27:04,094 --> 00:27:06,334
Speaker 4: and the next day of the person, Ryan would do

648
00:27:06,454 --> 00:27:08,894
Speaker 4: the same TV interview and they would play videos at Blake,

649
00:27:08,934 --> 00:27:10,134
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, all this kind of stuff

650
00:27:10,134 --> 00:27:12,734
Speaker 4: where they were trading like jokes and commentary through media,

651
00:27:12,934 --> 00:27:16,494
Speaker 4: and they walked each other's red carpets together. Hu was involved, Yeah,

652
00:27:16,534 --> 00:27:18,934
Speaker 4: gg did did was there dressed up for the Deadpool

653
00:27:18,974 --> 00:27:22,294
Speaker 4: Wolverine premiere. Hugh Jackman and Blake Lively did like a

654
00:27:22,294 --> 00:27:25,574
Speaker 4: big magazine covered together, like they really brought everything together,

655
00:27:26,094 --> 00:27:28,214
Speaker 4: and it seemed like was a match made in heaven

656
00:27:28,374 --> 00:27:31,654
Speaker 4: until some of their marketing just went a little bit

657
00:27:31,694 --> 00:27:34,334
Speaker 4: off the rails. So what's important to note here is

658
00:27:34,374 --> 00:27:36,294
Speaker 4: that at the end of the day, like yes, Ryan

659
00:27:36,334 --> 00:27:39,174
Speaker 4: and Blake are both actors and producers, but they also

660
00:27:39,494 --> 00:27:42,294
Speaker 4: have like a lot of different businesses that they have

661
00:27:42,414 --> 00:27:45,534
Speaker 4: built up using their fame and their money and their connections.

662
00:27:45,174 --> 00:27:46,774
Speaker 3: The product Hollywood. Yeah, exactly.

663
00:27:47,094 --> 00:27:51,894
Speaker 4: So Ryan Reynolds is worth about fourteen billion dollars according

664
00:27:51,974 --> 00:27:57,934
Speaker 4: to Forbes, through portfolio of businesses he's either started and

665
00:27:57,974 --> 00:27:59,774
Speaker 4: sold or that he co owns. Because he's got an

666
00:27:59,814 --> 00:28:01,494
Speaker 4: F one team, he's got a football club, he's got

667
00:28:01,494 --> 00:28:05,214
Speaker 4: an alcohol brand, a wireless provider, and an advertising agency.

668
00:28:05,494 --> 00:28:06,654
Speaker 3: What if one team does he have?

669
00:28:06,974 --> 00:28:08,654
Speaker 4: I think there's a whole, Like there's a whole like

670
00:28:08,694 --> 00:28:09,854
Speaker 4: documentary something.

671
00:28:09,934 --> 00:28:10,814
Speaker 3: I don't have that information.

672
00:28:12,054 --> 00:28:14,254
Speaker 4: And previously it had worked really well for him to

673
00:28:14,334 --> 00:28:17,734
Speaker 4: tie in his product launches to to his movies coming out,

674
00:28:17,774 --> 00:28:19,694
Speaker 4: because you know, he's doing so much press for his

675
00:28:19,774 --> 00:28:21,534
Speaker 4: movies and people love him, so it's a good time

676
00:28:21,574 --> 00:28:21,814
Speaker 4: for him.

677
00:28:21,854 --> 00:28:24,294
Speaker 3: Always. He always brings it back to like creation, right,

678
00:28:24,334 --> 00:28:26,894
Speaker 3: like similar to like how we made Rexit with Rob McCay,

679
00:28:27,094 --> 00:28:28,774
Speaker 3: like it's all about the football club. But then they

680
00:28:28,814 --> 00:28:31,934
Speaker 3: did the documentary show around the football club and tied

681
00:28:31,974 --> 00:28:33,854
Speaker 3: into his movies and press tour and stuff.

682
00:28:33,894 --> 00:28:36,294
Speaker 4: So he's really good at that like exactly, like I

683
00:28:36,294 --> 00:28:38,134
Speaker 4: think they're very big chill and being like, we're not

684
00:28:38,174 --> 00:28:40,654
Speaker 4: just actors, but we're a brand, like our marriages a brand,

685
00:28:40,694 --> 00:28:43,134
Speaker 4: our products as a brand, and they have co mingled

686
00:28:43,174 --> 00:28:45,934
Speaker 4: their brands before. I remember when A Simple Favor came out.

687
00:28:46,294 --> 00:28:49,134
Speaker 4: And there's so much in that movie of Blake's character

688
00:28:49,574 --> 00:28:51,654
Speaker 4: making the gin martiniz. That's such a big part of

689
00:28:51,694 --> 00:28:54,774
Speaker 4: her character. And so Ryan Reynolds has a gin company,

690
00:28:54,854 --> 00:28:57,254
Speaker 4: so he really kind of tied the marketing into his

691
00:28:57,374 --> 00:28:59,734
Speaker 4: company into her movie to the point where I remember

692
00:28:59,734 --> 00:29:01,414
Speaker 4: going to the premiere of that movie and being and

693
00:29:01,494 --> 00:29:03,534
Speaker 4: like all the drinks were done by Ryan Reynolds at

694
00:29:03,574 --> 00:29:05,334
Speaker 4: the party, and when we left, you all got a

695
00:29:05,334 --> 00:29:07,934
Speaker 4: bottle of Ryan Reynolds Gin. Like it was so kind

696
00:29:07,974 --> 00:29:10,134
Speaker 4: of tied in together, so you could see it this

697
00:29:10,214 --> 00:29:15,214
Speaker 4: time around. That's why Blake launched her haircare brand, Blake Brown,

698
00:29:15,374 --> 00:29:18,374
Speaker 4: around the same time as she was launching the movie,

699
00:29:18,494 --> 00:29:21,014
Speaker 4: so that all that promo from the movie, all the

700
00:29:21,054 --> 00:29:22,454
Speaker 4: right car but she's doing all the events or the

701
00:29:22,494 --> 00:29:25,574
Speaker 4: interviews of the magazine covers could also help launch her

702
00:29:25,854 --> 00:29:28,214
Speaker 4: hair care brand, which she said she'd been working on

703
00:29:28,254 --> 00:29:30,574
Speaker 4: for seven years. But this is where it was all

704
00:29:30,614 --> 00:29:32,814
Speaker 4: set up for them to both have these like amazing

705
00:29:32,854 --> 00:29:35,214
Speaker 4: movie releases and launched their products, and then it kind

706
00:29:35,214 --> 00:29:36,134
Speaker 4: of all went off the rails.

707
00:29:36,374 --> 00:29:39,414
Speaker 3: The hair then kind of made sense if you've watched

708
00:29:39,734 --> 00:29:42,734
Speaker 3: the movie for just like the aesthetic purposes of the movie,

709
00:29:42,774 --> 00:29:48,334
Speaker 3: because her character Lily Blossom Bloom exactly Bloom Lily Bloom,

710
00:29:48,534 --> 00:29:52,494
Speaker 3: Lily Bloom like aesthetically her character is hair. Yeah, like

711
00:29:52,534 --> 00:29:56,174
Speaker 3: she just has like this crazy, like long, like untamed,

712
00:29:56,254 --> 00:29:58,854
Speaker 3: uncapt hair that just like it's like also what Blake

713
00:29:58,894 --> 00:30:03,014
Speaker 3: Lively is known for. It's just having like the most longest, thickest, beautiful.

714
00:30:02,574 --> 00:30:05,494
Speaker 4: Hair, yeah exactly. And she'd be non from that Gossip

715
00:30:05,494 --> 00:30:07,374
Speaker 4: Girl days. So it seemed like it was a good thing.

716
00:30:07,374 --> 00:30:09,414
Speaker 4: But obviously there was the whole backlash around her not

717
00:30:09,734 --> 00:30:12,414
Speaker 4: you know, really tying in her press to the themes

718
00:30:12,414 --> 00:30:14,734
Speaker 4: of the movie and domestic violence. But even more so

719
00:30:14,814 --> 00:30:16,814
Speaker 4: than that, it was the first time that she and

720
00:30:16,934 --> 00:30:19,934
Speaker 4: Ryan as a couple went from being seen as like

721
00:30:20,134 --> 00:30:24,174
Speaker 4: really beloved to being like controlling and manipulative and.

722
00:30:24,134 --> 00:30:25,574
Speaker 3: Like the bad guys of Hollywood.

723
00:30:25,894 --> 00:30:27,654
Speaker 4: Because I mean, we don't know for sure, but what

724
00:30:27,694 --> 00:30:30,734
Speaker 4: we kind of know that happened is that Justin Baldoni

725
00:30:31,054 --> 00:30:33,494
Speaker 4: had brought the rights to the book. He directed it

726
00:30:33,614 --> 00:30:37,094
Speaker 4: and starred in it, and apparently Blake was like not

727
00:30:37,134 --> 00:30:39,694
Speaker 4: super happy with the final script and she didn't send

728
00:30:39,694 --> 00:30:41,534
Speaker 4: an interviews that some of the best lines, in her

729
00:30:41,614 --> 00:30:44,734
Speaker 4: opinion were ones that Ryan Reynolds wrote. So what happened,

730
00:30:44,774 --> 00:30:47,574
Speaker 4: it appears, if you're piecing the things together, is that

731
00:30:47,614 --> 00:30:50,054
Speaker 4: they had a script Ryan and Blake didn't quite like it,

732
00:30:50,094 --> 00:30:52,294
Speaker 4: so Ryan rewrote it. He's not involved in the movie

733
00:30:52,374 --> 00:30:55,614
Speaker 4: anyway this stage of the game. And it's also believed,

734
00:30:55,654 --> 00:30:57,374
Speaker 4: like we don't know for sure and have proof of this,

735
00:30:57,654 --> 00:30:59,534
Speaker 4: that he did it during the writer's strike, so that

736
00:30:59,574 --> 00:31:01,894
Speaker 4: the writer in question said, I can't fix the script

737
00:31:01,894 --> 00:31:04,294
Speaker 4: because we're not supposed to be, you know, hold the

738
00:31:04,294 --> 00:31:04,814
Speaker 4: picket line.

739
00:31:04,894 --> 00:31:07,094
Speaker 3: And they didn't know until they watched the movie that

740
00:31:07,134 --> 00:31:09,494
Speaker 3: the scripts that they put out that they were paid

741
00:31:09,654 --> 00:31:11,214
Speaker 3: to do was just completely had.

742
00:31:11,134 --> 00:31:13,854
Speaker 4: Been changed here exactly. So it's thought that Ryan Reynolds

743
00:31:13,854 --> 00:31:15,694
Speaker 4: was potentially a bit of a scab and wrote during

744
00:31:15,734 --> 00:31:19,494
Speaker 4: the writer's strike. Again, can't prove it yet, I will wonder. Apparently,

745
00:31:19,574 --> 00:31:21,414
Speaker 4: then there were two different cuts of the movie. There

746
00:31:21,454 --> 00:31:24,174
Speaker 4: was the Justin Baldoni clip, and then there was the

747
00:31:24,254 --> 00:31:26,294
Speaker 4: Ryan and Blake clip and they were battling it out.

748
00:31:26,334 --> 00:31:29,334
Speaker 4: And apparently the Justin Baldoni clip is the one that

749
00:31:29,374 --> 00:31:30,854
Speaker 4: went to air, Like that's the cut of the movie

750
00:31:30,854 --> 00:31:35,054
Speaker 4: that went to air with Ryan's dialogue in it. And

751
00:31:35,094 --> 00:31:36,654
Speaker 4: that's where the and this is where people think the

752
00:31:36,654 --> 00:31:39,614
Speaker 4: whole rift between Justin and Blake and Ryan by association

753
00:31:39,654 --> 00:31:42,814
Speaker 4: because he's involved, all happened because they came in and

754
00:31:42,854 --> 00:31:44,934
Speaker 4: tried to like take over the movie. Again, this is

755
00:31:44,934 --> 00:31:47,294
Speaker 4: all speculation, but something happened behind the scenes.

756
00:31:47,574 --> 00:31:50,254
Speaker 3: Something happened, because when we were watching videos of the

757
00:31:50,254 --> 00:31:52,294
Speaker 3: press too and them doing interviews, it was always Justin

758
00:31:52,334 --> 00:31:55,054
Speaker 3: Baldoni doing his interviews and press by himself, yeah, and

759
00:31:55,094 --> 00:31:57,614
Speaker 3: the rest of the cast and Blake doing it together exactly.

760
00:31:57,694 --> 00:32:00,214
Speaker 4: Some people have speculated, and look, this might be true.

761
00:32:00,254 --> 00:32:03,494
Speaker 4: This is how that industry works, is that people had

762
00:32:03,534 --> 00:32:05,774
Speaker 4: to pick a side, like people who were either actors

763
00:32:05,774 --> 00:32:07,774
Speaker 4: of the movie or production or even Colling Hoover, the

764
00:32:07,814 --> 00:32:09,894
Speaker 4: author of the book, had to pick a side, and

765
00:32:09,974 --> 00:32:12,574
Speaker 4: so many of them picked Blake and Ryan because they're

766
00:32:12,574 --> 00:32:14,734
Speaker 4: the big power players in Hollywood. They're the ones with

767
00:32:14,774 --> 00:32:18,374
Speaker 4: the studio connections. Ryan Reynolds has a fourteen billion dollar industry,

768
00:32:18,494 --> 00:32:21,094
Speaker 4: whereas Justin Baldoni kind of powerful but not really Like

769
00:32:21,174 --> 00:32:23,974
Speaker 4: he's not getting movies made of his name alone. He

770
00:32:24,014 --> 00:32:25,934
Speaker 4: can't make or break you the way that they can.

771
00:32:26,374 --> 00:32:29,334
Speaker 4: So they went from being this happy, go lucky, in love,

772
00:32:29,414 --> 00:32:32,414
Speaker 4: goofy little Hollywood married couple who like to bait together

773
00:32:32,774 --> 00:32:37,094
Speaker 4: to being seen as these manipulative people who were like

774
00:32:37,134 --> 00:32:39,454
Speaker 4: destroying careers and who were trying to launch products and

775
00:32:39,454 --> 00:32:41,894
Speaker 4: make money off the artists around them. So it's just

776
00:32:41,934 --> 00:32:45,334
Speaker 4: so interesting how a joint pressed to a movie release

777
00:32:45,374 --> 00:32:48,254
Speaker 4: schedule that should have like solidified them as a Hollywood

778
00:32:48,294 --> 00:32:51,694
Speaker 4: golden couple actually turned the tables on them. And they're

779
00:32:51,694 --> 00:32:53,614
Speaker 4: still famous and beloved, but I don't think people will

780
00:32:53,614 --> 00:32:54,854
Speaker 4: ever forget this moment in time.

781
00:32:55,254 --> 00:32:59,014
Speaker 3: Okay, So my next relationship that I want to talk about

782
00:32:59,214 --> 00:33:02,414
Speaker 3: is someone who's very close friends with Blake, a little

783
00:33:02,414 --> 00:33:06,214
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift. You might have heard of her, So Taylor Swift,

784
00:33:06,414 --> 00:33:09,614
Speaker 3: I mean, she's had a lot of big relationships in

785
00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:12,574
Speaker 3: the past. But I feel like with the Internet and

786
00:33:12,654 --> 00:33:15,494
Speaker 3: like how we see everything now and have access to everything,

787
00:33:15,534 --> 00:33:19,614
Speaker 3: it feels like this relationship this year with Travis Kelcey

788
00:33:20,054 --> 00:33:22,454
Speaker 3: is like the biggest one for that, Yeah, for sure.

789
00:33:22,534 --> 00:33:26,294
Speaker 3: And I think it's also the connection of two separate worlds, right,

790
00:33:26,414 --> 00:33:29,774
Speaker 3: like the girls who love music and the men who

791
00:33:29,814 --> 00:33:33,054
Speaker 3: loved sports are like finally coming together. The men didn't

792
00:33:33,054 --> 00:33:35,014
Speaker 3: want it, but the girls were fine with it. So

793
00:33:35,334 --> 00:33:38,494
Speaker 3: this relationship started off late last year similar to Sabrina

794
00:33:38,534 --> 00:33:41,854
Speaker 3: and Barry's where they were together, but they weren't actually

795
00:33:41,854 --> 00:33:45,014
Speaker 3: like talking about it. They were spotted at restaurants holding hands.

796
00:33:45,334 --> 00:33:48,534
Speaker 3: He mentioned her on his podcast that he shares with

797
00:33:48,614 --> 00:33:51,574
Speaker 3: his brother that they still have, and then that went

798
00:33:51,614 --> 00:33:54,054
Speaker 3: completely viral and she was asked about it in an

799
00:33:54,094 --> 00:33:56,374
Speaker 3: interview with Time magazine and she said, yeah, it was

800
00:33:56,414 --> 00:33:57,054
Speaker 3: so metal.

801
00:33:58,214 --> 00:34:00,454
Speaker 4: You had men he just called me on his podcast,

802
00:34:00,494 --> 00:34:05,174
Speaker 4: So that was metal as hell. Hey, I have such

803
00:34:05,174 --> 00:34:06,414
Speaker 4: a vivid memory of that moment.

804
00:34:06,534 --> 00:34:08,054
Speaker 3: It really still rubbing off on it.

805
00:34:10,054 --> 00:34:12,734
Speaker 4: It's so funny because I remember that was first kicking off,

806
00:34:12,774 --> 00:34:15,894
Speaker 4: and obviously we didn't know they had been dating properly

807
00:34:15,934 --> 00:34:18,534
Speaker 4: behind the scenes. And I remember even saying on the pod, like,

808
00:34:18,694 --> 00:34:20,734
Speaker 4: because so many guys obviously do this where they you know,

809
00:34:20,814 --> 00:34:23,334
Speaker 4: try and like put their self into her story, and

810
00:34:23,414 --> 00:34:25,294
Speaker 4: it looked like at the time, before we knew the

811
00:34:25,294 --> 00:34:27,974
Speaker 4: real story, it looked like it was just this football

812
00:34:28,014 --> 00:34:30,934
Speaker 4: bro who has a podcast trying to like call out

813
00:34:30,974 --> 00:34:34,134
Speaker 4: this famous woman and almost like bring some attention to

814
00:34:34,254 --> 00:34:37,894
Speaker 4: himself using her fandom and him saying like inviting her

815
00:34:37,934 --> 00:34:40,294
Speaker 4: to the game. And I'm like, it's so creepy because

816
00:34:40,334 --> 00:34:42,054
Speaker 4: we didn't know they were together. And then when she

817
00:34:42,094 --> 00:34:44,174
Speaker 4: turned up at the game, I was shocked to my core.

818
00:34:44,774 --> 00:34:46,534
Speaker 4: Once I realized I was together, it was different, like

819
00:34:46,534 --> 00:34:48,174
Speaker 4: that wasn't their first date or anything like that, but

820
00:34:48,254 --> 00:34:49,494
Speaker 4: just those headlines of like.

821
00:34:49,454 --> 00:34:51,934
Speaker 3: Oh she's there. Yeah, that was a huge that was

822
00:34:51,974 --> 00:34:52,414
Speaker 3: a huge day.

823
00:34:52,414 --> 00:34:53,774
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie, I'm not even I mean, I

824
00:34:53,814 --> 00:34:56,494
Speaker 4: liked Tells's music, but I'm not usually following her private

825
00:34:56,494 --> 00:34:58,734
Speaker 4: life so intensely, But that day I was all in.

826
00:34:58,934 --> 00:35:02,534
Speaker 3: And I think, like after listening to his podcast and stuff,

827
00:35:02,534 --> 00:35:05,094
Speaker 3: because I have listened to a few episodes, really, yeah,

828
00:35:05,174 --> 00:35:07,694
Speaker 3: what is it in the Heights? In the Heights, he's

829
00:35:07,774 --> 00:35:10,814
Speaker 3: really interesting because, as you say said, like originally when

830
00:35:10,854 --> 00:35:13,654
Speaker 3: he first mentioned Taylor comes across as like this football

831
00:35:13,774 --> 00:35:17,094
Speaker 3: bro that like someone that we like really would have

832
00:35:17,134 --> 00:35:19,974
Speaker 3: nothing in common with or someone like Taylor Swift. But

833
00:35:20,094 --> 00:35:23,934
Speaker 3: he's his like personality is actually quite puppy dog golden retriever. Yeah,

834
00:35:23,974 --> 00:35:26,614
Speaker 3: Like he's very like, I don't know him, so I

835
00:35:26,614 --> 00:35:29,014
Speaker 3: can't say this and makes me sound we don't know

836
00:35:29,054 --> 00:35:30,334
Speaker 3: any of these people yet we have a lot of

837
00:35:30,374 --> 00:35:32,774
Speaker 3: opinion women. Okay, that's what I want to say. He

838
00:35:32,854 --> 00:35:35,654
Speaker 3: respects women. That's what I get from his podcast. He

839
00:35:35,814 --> 00:35:37,934
Speaker 3: just seems like a really nice guy. But what I

840
00:35:38,054 --> 00:35:42,214
Speaker 3: liked about his relationship is that you can tell exactly

841
00:35:42,334 --> 00:35:44,974
Speaker 3: like all the ins and outs of her relationships just

842
00:35:45,054 --> 00:35:48,374
Speaker 3: through her Ears tour performance. So you see when she

843
00:35:48,534 --> 00:35:51,494
Speaker 3: was like with Joe Alwyn. There's like been so many

844
00:35:51,574 --> 00:35:55,094
Speaker 3: videos of after the Eras tour, he's like sprinting into

845
00:35:55,094 --> 00:35:57,934
Speaker 3: a car, like literally dragging her into a car. Like

846
00:35:58,454 --> 00:36:01,094
Speaker 3: we know now that like he liked the relationship with

847
00:36:01,174 --> 00:36:04,014
Speaker 3: her to be really private because he's also in acting.

848
00:36:04,494 --> 00:36:06,654
Speaker 3: We watched him in Kinds of Kindness. He didn't have

849
00:36:06,814 --> 00:36:08,454
Speaker 3: that big of a park. He was great in that movie.

850
00:36:08,534 --> 00:36:11,254
Speaker 3: There he was okay, but it was very much like

851
00:36:11,454 --> 00:36:14,574
Speaker 3: we now know that he the way they talk about

852
00:36:14,614 --> 00:36:16,614
Speaker 3: it almost felt like he was a bit embarrassed to

853
00:36:16,654 --> 00:36:18,654
Speaker 3: be in a relationship with her, So we saw that

854
00:36:18,774 --> 00:36:21,174
Speaker 3: with the Eras tour. We could then tell when they

855
00:36:21,174 --> 00:36:23,214
Speaker 3: broke up because she was just really sad for those

856
00:36:23,254 --> 00:36:27,174
Speaker 3: few performances Rip There's Last Leg of the US. And

857
00:36:27,214 --> 00:36:30,734
Speaker 3: then she got into a situationship with Mattie.

858
00:36:30,414 --> 00:36:33,694
Speaker 4: Healy, which was again a great moment in time for

859
00:36:33,774 --> 00:36:36,374
Speaker 4: us because rememberhow people thought they were sending secret messages

860
00:36:36,414 --> 00:36:38,094
Speaker 4: to each other like they were mouthing because they're both

861
00:36:38,174 --> 00:36:39,894
Speaker 4: touring and their tours are being filmed.

862
00:36:39,974 --> 00:36:42,054
Speaker 3: What do you mean people thought they were they were

863
00:36:42,134 --> 00:36:42,454
Speaker 3: doing that.

864
00:36:42,494 --> 00:36:43,894
Speaker 4: I'm trying to just be a little bit have like

865
00:36:43,934 --> 00:36:45,454
Speaker 4: a slight grasp on the reality here.

866
00:36:45,894 --> 00:36:48,174
Speaker 3: They can accept it. They were cringe as fuck. Okay.

867
00:36:48,254 --> 00:36:50,294
Speaker 4: They were saying I love you to each other in

868
00:36:50,334 --> 00:36:51,574
Speaker 4: different videos back and forth.

869
00:36:51,614 --> 00:36:53,494
Speaker 3: They were saying I love you, you know who you are,

870
00:36:53,614 --> 00:36:56,534
Speaker 3: and I'm like, ill, don't do that to me yourself,

871
00:36:56,774 --> 00:36:58,054
Speaker 3: Like I'm just here and enjoyed.

872
00:36:58,854 --> 00:37:00,974
Speaker 4: I don't. I can't see it.

873
00:37:01,134 --> 00:37:03,414
Speaker 3: Just think, shake it off and get on with it. Okay.

874
00:37:03,814 --> 00:37:06,934
Speaker 3: So that happened. Then they broke up with the situationship.

875
00:37:06,974 --> 00:37:08,334
Speaker 3: She got real sad after that.

876
00:37:08,534 --> 00:37:10,814
Speaker 4: Yeah, she released a whole album just about that because

877
00:37:10,814 --> 00:37:11,574
Speaker 4: really no situation.

878
00:37:11,614 --> 00:37:13,814
Speaker 3: Ship breakups are way worse than the relationship breakup.

879
00:37:13,854 --> 00:37:16,014
Speaker 4: It's like when the Tortured Poets Department came out and

880
00:37:16,014 --> 00:37:18,574
Speaker 4: everyone's like, Joe's gonna get it, Like he's going, there's

881
00:37:18,574 --> 00:37:21,334
Speaker 4: gonna be maximum two songs and that I know after

882
00:37:21,414 --> 00:37:24,054
Speaker 4: six years together, and it was all Maddie Healy. But

883
00:37:24,094 --> 00:37:26,374
Speaker 4: obviously that just got under her skin in such an

884
00:37:26,374 --> 00:37:30,094
Speaker 4: intense I mean, I get it all for It's like

885
00:37:30,134 --> 00:37:32,254
Speaker 4: she was just the whole subtext of that album is

886
00:37:32,254 --> 00:37:34,614
Speaker 4: the audacity of that man, the absolute audacity.

887
00:37:34,814 --> 00:37:38,054
Speaker 3: I think what people enjoy about her and Travis is

888
00:37:38,094 --> 00:37:41,734
Speaker 3: that so different from Joe Alwin is that he is

889
00:37:41,814 --> 00:37:43,494
Speaker 3: so proud to be with her.

890
00:37:44,174 --> 00:37:46,174
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we don't know that Joe Alwen wasn't proud

891
00:37:46,214 --> 00:37:49,094
Speaker 4: to be He's just you don't know that Emily, they

892
00:37:49,134 --> 00:37:51,614
Speaker 4: were together for six years and he hid that for

893
00:37:51,654 --> 00:37:54,174
Speaker 4: the song. He's just maybe a super private He's like

894
00:37:54,174 --> 00:37:57,174
Speaker 4: a little English private man. His family probably thought was

895
00:37:57,174 --> 00:38:01,534
Speaker 4: embarrassing that he's even an actor. You know, he's just

896
00:38:01,574 --> 00:38:04,574
Speaker 4: a confuse young man. Whereas Travis just loves the spotlight.

897
00:38:04,694 --> 00:38:07,214
Speaker 4: I think people just loved, especially the early days of

898
00:38:07,254 --> 00:38:09,454
Speaker 4: their relationship where you saw him her like going to

899
00:38:09,654 --> 00:38:11,414
Speaker 4: the game and stuff and being in the crowd. Is

900
00:38:11,414 --> 00:38:14,854
Speaker 4: that it played out like a really sappy but we

901
00:38:14,934 --> 00:38:16,854
Speaker 4: love them sappy romcom And.

902
00:38:16,854 --> 00:38:19,374
Speaker 3: When people won the Super Bowl and you could tell

903
00:38:19,454 --> 00:38:22,254
Speaker 3: she got the air cut singing beavera Las Vegas and

904
00:38:22,294 --> 00:38:25,414
Speaker 3: then like hey, like attends like every single aerostour concert

905
00:38:25,534 --> 00:38:28,414
Speaker 3: and has like knows all the words like dancing. She

906
00:38:28,534 --> 00:38:30,694
Speaker 3: changed lyrics to make it about him.

907
00:38:30,854 --> 00:38:33,054
Speaker 4: Okay, that is actually a great moment because that was

908
00:38:33,094 --> 00:38:35,734
Speaker 4: the first time Travis had attendant and errors to her.

909
00:38:35,974 --> 00:38:38,894
Speaker 4: And so she's doing Karma, which is the final song.

910
00:38:39,294 --> 00:38:41,254
Speaker 4: She's doing that thing where she in the big sparkly

911
00:38:41,334 --> 00:38:43,254
Speaker 4: coat where she does the sidestep all the way down

912
00:38:43,254 --> 00:38:43,694
Speaker 4: the stage.

913
00:38:43,734 --> 00:38:45,134
Speaker 3: How have I seen this? It's the last song of

914
00:38:45,174 --> 00:38:45,614
Speaker 3: the concert.

915
00:38:45,854 --> 00:38:48,614
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she changes the line to Karma is the

916
00:38:48,654 --> 00:38:50,294
Speaker 4: guy and the Chiefs coming straight home to me?

917
00:38:50,374 --> 00:38:52,854
Speaker 3: And you can just the energy of that moment.

918
00:38:52,934 --> 00:38:54,854
Speaker 4: I think why that's like such a viral video, but

919
00:38:54,854 --> 00:38:57,494
Speaker 4: also why I've weirdly watched about fifteen times is that

920
00:38:57,654 --> 00:39:00,854
Speaker 4: the reaction is something that you just can't recreate because

921
00:39:00,894 --> 00:39:03,814
Speaker 4: the audience just they just know so instantly what's happened

922
00:39:04,054 --> 00:39:06,534
Speaker 4: and they all go crazy, but all her dancers also

923
00:39:06,614 --> 00:39:09,254
Speaker 4: start screaming and clapping like they're very surprised around her,

924
00:39:09,294 --> 00:39:12,814
Speaker 4: and the look on her face is so but also

925
00:39:13,054 --> 00:39:15,934
Speaker 4: just like she just loves that moment of like surprising

926
00:39:15,934 --> 00:39:17,894
Speaker 4: the crowd and getting a reaction, like she lives off

927
00:39:17,894 --> 00:39:18,454
Speaker 4: for the reaction.

928
00:39:18,654 --> 00:39:21,174
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, I just think she's really like I

929
00:39:21,214 --> 00:39:23,094
Speaker 3: don't know, she probably hates it, but I just think

930
00:39:23,174 --> 00:39:26,254
Speaker 3: she's really happy right now. Like even the song that

931
00:39:26,294 --> 00:39:28,774
Speaker 3: she wrote about him high school in that album, it's

932
00:39:28,934 --> 00:39:31,214
Speaker 3: cringe as fuck, but it's so like you can tell

933
00:39:31,254 --> 00:39:34,134
Speaker 3: she's really happy and proud of that song. It also

934
00:39:34,174 --> 00:39:37,214
Speaker 3: has its own own choreography in the entire concert, and

935
00:39:37,374 --> 00:39:39,934
Speaker 3: it's like one of the relationships of hers. Like I

936
00:39:39,974 --> 00:39:41,854
Speaker 3: did think this about Jake juln Har where I really

937
00:39:41,854 --> 00:39:43,934
Speaker 3: wanted them to last, but this one, I'm like, I

938
00:39:43,974 --> 00:39:45,814
Speaker 3: really want them to last because I just feel like

939
00:39:45,814 --> 00:39:47,774
Speaker 3: they're just having a good time and it's nice to

940
00:39:47,814 --> 00:39:50,454
Speaker 3: see because I like both the same asia in their thirties.

941
00:39:50,534 --> 00:39:53,854
Speaker 3: They both have like separate careers, but it feels like

942
00:39:53,854 --> 00:39:56,174
Speaker 3: that they just really enjoy each other as people.

943
00:39:56,374 --> 00:39:59,974
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I've ever heard you so weird.

944
00:39:59,974 --> 00:40:01,774
Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm obsessed with them, but I am.

945
00:40:01,814 --> 00:40:02,294
Speaker 3: It's weird.

946
00:40:02,334 --> 00:40:04,334
Speaker 4: Well, just see again, it's there's no secret to it.

947
00:40:04,334 --> 00:40:05,894
Speaker 4: It's just like playing out like a rom com, and

948
00:40:05,934 --> 00:40:07,014
Speaker 4: we're obsessed with that level.

949
00:40:07,014 --> 00:40:09,414
Speaker 3: And they've given us. They're a height difference as well.

950
00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:11,734
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a weird things to bring up. They're both tall, right,

951
00:40:11,814 --> 00:40:12,654
Speaker 4: He's obviously taller.

952
00:40:12,814 --> 00:40:14,454
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like because sometimes I feel like she's

953
00:40:14,454 --> 00:40:17,214
Speaker 3: always the tall one. Yeah, well that's nice.

954
00:40:17,334 --> 00:40:19,094
Speaker 4: I was also going to say, like, we've never had

955
00:40:19,134 --> 00:40:22,014
Speaker 4: this level of access to We get access to her

956
00:40:22,094 --> 00:40:24,294
Speaker 4: romance in her life through her songs in a very

957
00:40:24,414 --> 00:40:26,894
Speaker 4: kind of curated way that she wants us to see it,

958
00:40:27,174 --> 00:40:29,654
Speaker 4: but we've never really seen this much of one of

959
00:40:29,654 --> 00:40:33,614
Speaker 4: her relationships play out to this extent in the public eye.

960
00:40:33,614 --> 00:40:35,694
Speaker 4: And she has a whole different level of fame than

961
00:40:35,734 --> 00:40:37,854
Speaker 4: she did when she was dating Calvin Harris or any

962
00:40:37,894 --> 00:40:39,254
Speaker 4: of the you know, or even when she was together

963
00:40:39,254 --> 00:40:41,174
Speaker 4: with Harry Styles for a bit or one of the Kennedys.

964
00:40:41,494 --> 00:40:43,534
Speaker 4: Like we got bits and pieces, but we never got

965
00:40:43,574 --> 00:40:45,934
Speaker 4: like full video of them in the stands at a

966
00:40:45,974 --> 00:40:48,774
Speaker 4: football game or like her running and jumping into his

967
00:40:48,894 --> 00:40:51,334
Speaker 4: arms backstage and all that sort of stuff. So it's

968
00:40:51,374 --> 00:40:53,654
Speaker 4: just like, I think the access is what people are loving.

969
00:40:53,934 --> 00:40:56,254
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today.

970
00:40:56,294 --> 00:40:58,854
Speaker 3: As a little reminder, we will still be putting out

971
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Speaker 3: new episodes over this holiday break. We hope you're enjoying yourselves.

972
00:41:03,214 --> 00:41:05,694
Speaker 3: If you're able to take some leave, we will be

973
00:41:05,774 --> 00:41:07,694
Speaker 3: back here in your podcast feed tomorrow.

974
00:41:07,814 --> 00:41:10,694
Speaker 4: Bye bye, Happy.

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00:41:13,054 --> 00:41:16,334
Speaker 1: Lana, Lana. We hope you enjoyed this episode of the Spill,

976
00:41:16,454 --> 00:41:19,934
Speaker 1: unpacking the biggest celeb breakups and relationships of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Much like the Quikie, The Spill drops into your feed

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00:41:22,374 --> 00:41:24,734
Speaker 2: every single weekday so you never have to miss one

979
00:41:24,734 --> 00:41:27,614
Speaker 2: of those big breaking Hollywood stories or notes on the

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00:41:27,654 --> 00:41:30,614
Speaker 2: latest blockbuster releases. Will pop a link to their podcast

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00:41:30,734 --> 00:41:34,014
Speaker 2: in the show notes, along with our viral interview All

982
00:41:34,094 --> 00:41:37,134
Speaker 2: the Way to Germany featuring Travis Kelsing's PR agent.

983
00:41:37,254 --> 00:41:39,134
Speaker 1: So did you go viral in twenty twenty four?

984
00:41:39,174 --> 00:41:43,414
Speaker 3: I know that I did, and I'm claiming rights over

985
00:41:43,454 --> 00:41:44,814
Speaker 3: this All the Way to the Bank.

986
00:41:44,974 --> 00:41:46,574
Speaker 1: In fact, neither of us did, because it was an

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00:41:46,614 --> 00:41:48,774
Speaker 1: interview that Jemma Barth did when she filled in for me.

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00:41:48,854 --> 00:41:50,974
Speaker 1: But we'll all take that, thank you very much, and

989
00:41:51,014 --> 00:41:52,814
Speaker 1: we will meet you back here tomorrow for a new

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00:41:52,854 --> 00:41:55,494
Speaker 1: episode of the Quikie, finding out the best tips if

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Speaker 1: you're a lady and you want to travel solo.