1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,024 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,104 --> 00:00:18,784 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,864 --> 00:00:26,864 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome to 4 00:00:26,864 --> 00:00:30,304 Speaker 1: the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney 5 00:00:30,424 --> 00:00:31,704 Speaker 1: and I'm m Burnham. 6 00:00:31,744 --> 00:00:33,104 Speaker 2: We're at a fancy new studio too. 7 00:00:33,104 --> 00:00:35,504 Speaker 1: We're a fancy new studio with some little stresses. Because 8 00:00:35,504 --> 00:00:39,384 Speaker 1: I couldn't find the door. I'm always like, I'm the 9 00:00:39,384 --> 00:00:41,544 Speaker 1: main character of my own life. I'm going to take charge. 10 00:00:41,584 --> 00:00:43,864 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. My life's going to be so amazing. 11 00:00:43,864 --> 00:00:45,624 Speaker 1: And then I'm always just like wandering up and down 12 00:00:45,624 --> 00:00:47,544 Speaker 1: the street and unable to find a door. Running late. 13 00:00:47,744 --> 00:00:49,664 Speaker 2: I also didn't find the door. I don't want to 14 00:00:49,664 --> 00:00:51,904 Speaker 2: admit it, but something worse happened to me because it 15 00:00:51,944 --> 00:00:54,184 Speaker 2: was like raining today, so I had my umbrella. I 16 00:00:54,224 --> 00:00:57,304 Speaker 2: was perfectly drying us standing under the scaffolding, calling our 17 00:00:57,344 --> 00:00:59,464 Speaker 2: producer going, hey, I'm lost. 18 00:00:59,464 --> 00:01:01,624 Speaker 1: I was right, glad you said that. 19 00:01:01,664 --> 00:01:03,344 Speaker 2: But because you know how like there's like those big 20 00:01:03,424 --> 00:01:06,384 Speaker 2: drops that like you kind of come out of the buildings. 21 00:01:06,624 --> 00:01:08,504 Speaker 2: I got one of those massive drops on my head 22 00:01:08,504 --> 00:01:11,064 Speaker 2: that completely soaked me in the front of my fame. 23 00:01:10,984 --> 00:01:13,824 Speaker 1: My God, and do you know that that's actually not rain, 24 00:01:13,904 --> 00:01:16,504 Speaker 1: that's what's called city drips. So it's like residue from 25 00:01:16,544 --> 00:01:22,904 Speaker 1: buildings and dirts become a superhero. Maybe there's some sort 26 00:01:22,944 --> 00:01:23,344 Speaker 1: of in. 27 00:01:23,264 --> 00:01:25,544 Speaker 2: The Next Avengers. You didn't see my casting name on 28 00:01:25,544 --> 00:01:27,384 Speaker 2: those chairs and the Next Avengers pull out, but it was. 29 00:01:27,384 --> 00:01:29,864 Speaker 1: There because you're a surprise. You're an end credit scene 30 00:01:29,904 --> 00:01:32,264 Speaker 1: and I hope that's what you guys chewed in for today. Actually, 31 00:01:32,344 --> 00:01:35,144 Speaker 1: we have so much to talk about because the last 32 00:01:35,184 --> 00:01:37,944 Speaker 1: couple of days have impacked with some scandalous celebrity news. 33 00:01:38,304 --> 00:01:42,104 Speaker 1: We have a Kylie and Timothy Timidate story and some 34 00:01:42,224 --> 00:01:45,064 Speaker 1: very incriminating photos that were posted, Well incriminating is the 35 00:01:45,064 --> 00:01:49,904 Speaker 1: wrong word. Interesting interesting photos depending on whose side you're on. Also, 36 00:01:50,024 --> 00:01:53,904 Speaker 1: a huge update in the Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively lawsuit. 37 00:01:53,984 --> 00:01:57,384 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift has been pulled in huge everyone Hugh Jackman, 38 00:01:57,544 --> 00:02:00,704 Speaker 1: Leave Hugh Jackman. He's been through a laugh I know. 39 00:02:00,904 --> 00:02:02,664 Speaker 1: So we're going to get into all of that because 40 00:02:02,664 --> 00:02:05,504 Speaker 1: everyone has now had to choose a side. But first 41 00:02:05,624 --> 00:02:10,504 Speaker 1: Emily for someone who, for someone who? Again, I'm to 42 00:02:10,584 --> 00:02:12,104 Speaker 1: keep bringing this up. We should find the tape of 43 00:02:12,144 --> 00:02:14,224 Speaker 1: this and play it on a loop for someone who 44 00:02:14,264 --> 00:02:16,544 Speaker 1: only a few months ago, and I remember exactly who 45 00:02:16,664 --> 00:02:18,544 Speaker 1: was sitting in studio one of the old Mummere building 46 00:02:18,784 --> 00:02:20,944 Speaker 1: who said, I just don't know if Saturday Night Live 47 00:02:21,024 --> 00:02:23,464 Speaker 1: is relevant anymore, like who watches it? Who talks about it? 48 00:02:23,664 --> 00:02:26,544 Speaker 1: And since then, every week you have become our SNL 49 00:02:26,584 --> 00:02:29,504 Speaker 1: correspondent because every week you picture Saturday Night Live story. 50 00:02:29,664 --> 00:02:30,544 Speaker 1: But isn't that good? 51 00:02:30,624 --> 00:02:32,544 Speaker 2: How I just don't stick to my opinions? 52 00:02:32,624 --> 00:02:34,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that for you. I mean, they have 53 00:02:34,584 --> 00:02:36,944 Speaker 1: been really they've been raking up the celebrity guests and 54 00:02:36,984 --> 00:02:37,984 Speaker 1: cameos and moments and. 55 00:02:38,064 --> 00:02:41,784 Speaker 2: Thanks to us listeners. Yeah, so it is time for 56 00:02:42,064 --> 00:02:45,584 Speaker 2: my weekly chat about Saturday Night Live also known as SNL. 57 00:02:46,024 --> 00:02:49,024 Speaker 2: On Saturday, we had a brand new celebrity host that 58 00:02:49,104 --> 00:02:52,104 Speaker 2: we always get every week, and it was messy bestie 59 00:02:52,224 --> 00:02:54,144 Speaker 2: Walton Goggins. 60 00:02:53,384 --> 00:02:56,024 Speaker 1: Fresh off his very messy appearance at the met Gala 61 00:02:56,384 --> 00:02:58,544 Speaker 1: where he stalked up and down in front of the cameras, 62 00:02:58,544 --> 00:03:00,984 Speaker 1: which was fine. He had a shic outfit on, twirled 63 00:03:01,024 --> 00:03:03,904 Speaker 1: around at a very nervous Amy Lou with the support 64 00:03:03,944 --> 00:03:07,264 Speaker 1: of the sweetest boy in the world. Allegedly, Patrick Swartzenegger 65 00:03:07,464 --> 00:03:08,664 Speaker 1: kind of walked behind him. 66 00:03:09,064 --> 00:03:12,704 Speaker 2: White load is actually made Patricks I don't know, like 67 00:03:12,784 --> 00:03:14,744 Speaker 2: celebrity esque debut. 68 00:03:14,864 --> 00:03:15,504 Speaker 1: Oh exactly. 69 00:03:15,544 --> 00:03:17,704 Speaker 2: He was like a different person in my head. And 70 00:03:17,744 --> 00:03:19,464 Speaker 2: then he did White Lotus and now he's. 71 00:03:19,384 --> 00:03:20,824 Speaker 1: And now we all loved him and like we was 72 00:03:20,944 --> 00:03:22,384 Speaker 1: on the day. He'd been to the Met Gala so 73 00:03:22,424 --> 00:03:24,984 Speaker 1: many times before and just no one cares. All the 74 00:03:25,024 --> 00:03:28,064 Speaker 1: headlines were like Patrick Carpet. 75 00:03:28,224 --> 00:03:31,344 Speaker 2: It was third Megala. So yes, we have talked about 76 00:03:31,344 --> 00:03:34,984 Speaker 2: our friend Walton quite regularly now since the White Lotus. 77 00:03:35,304 --> 00:03:38,424 Speaker 2: We talked about some infidelity rumors that happened on set. 78 00:03:38,544 --> 00:03:42,344 Speaker 2: We talked about him allegedly walking out of a straight 79 00:03:42,464 --> 00:03:45,384 Speaker 2: up interview that he was doing and that still got published. 80 00:03:45,504 --> 00:03:47,344 Speaker 2: And we also talked about how he avoided all his 81 00:03:47,344 --> 00:03:51,304 Speaker 2: co stars at the Metgala. Now, he was hosting SNL 82 00:03:51,544 --> 00:03:54,224 Speaker 2: and we've talked about this before, but when the celebrity 83 00:03:54,264 --> 00:03:57,024 Speaker 2: hosts SNL, they do this big monologue to start off 84 00:03:57,024 --> 00:04:00,864 Speaker 2: the show. And during his monologue, he brought his mother 85 00:04:01,184 --> 00:04:04,384 Speaker 2: on stage to dance with him, and they danced together 86 00:04:04,744 --> 00:04:07,704 Speaker 2: and it was a very wholesome. The audience reception of 87 00:04:07,744 --> 00:04:12,384 Speaker 2: this moment has been extremely positive towards him. There were 88 00:04:12,424 --> 00:04:15,264 Speaker 2: tweets saying, you can't hate this man, this is the 89 00:04:15,264 --> 00:04:17,664 Speaker 2: best thing I've ever seen. But there was one tweet 90 00:04:17,664 --> 00:04:20,384 Speaker 2: in particular that kind of made me go hmm mmm, 91 00:04:20,904 --> 00:04:24,144 Speaker 2: and it said, you can't be mean to Walton Goggins 92 00:04:24,184 --> 00:04:27,104 Speaker 2: after he bought his mom on stage and clogged with her. 93 00:04:27,424 --> 00:04:30,384 Speaker 2: It's illegal now, sorry, but I don't make the rules. 94 00:04:31,024 --> 00:04:34,024 Speaker 2: And it kind of made me think about how I've 95 00:04:34,024 --> 00:04:39,544 Speaker 2: been seeing a pattern with celebrity men using their moms 96 00:04:39,864 --> 00:04:42,184 Speaker 2: as a get out of jail free car when they're 97 00:04:42,384 --> 00:04:45,584 Speaker 2: going through a big, bad PR stint and they're not 98 00:04:45,624 --> 00:04:50,024 Speaker 2: necessarily as crazy as Walter Goggins. The last recent one 99 00:04:50,064 --> 00:04:52,744 Speaker 2: I remember was Glenn Powell after all the Sydney Sweeney 100 00:04:52,784 --> 00:04:55,424 Speaker 2: stuff with the movie press tour and everything, and he 101 00:04:55,464 --> 00:04:57,704 Speaker 2: would drag his parents out on the red carpet, doing 102 00:04:57,704 --> 00:04:59,864 Speaker 2: like his funny jokes with him holding up signs saying 103 00:05:00,024 --> 00:05:01,384 Speaker 2: who with Glen Palell anyway? 104 00:05:01,464 --> 00:05:04,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, Glen Palell's overrated. Now they're on every red carpet, 105 00:05:04,424 --> 00:05:05,584 Speaker 1: they've got their own fan base. 106 00:05:05,744 --> 00:05:08,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's just such an interesting strategy 107 00:05:08,184 --> 00:05:10,544 Speaker 2: because I feel like it would be so different for 108 00:05:10,824 --> 00:05:13,864 Speaker 2: celebrity women to do the same thing. I remember when 109 00:05:13,944 --> 00:05:17,344 Speaker 2: Dakota Johnson brought her mom to an Awards show and 110 00:05:17,864 --> 00:05:20,504 Speaker 2: that just like completely backfired for her because he interview 111 00:05:20,584 --> 00:05:22,344 Speaker 2: was like, what to like seeing your daughter because she 112 00:05:22,424 --> 00:05:24,624 Speaker 2: was in fifty shades a great doing this, and her 113 00:05:24,664 --> 00:05:26,584 Speaker 2: mom was like, oh, I can't watch it, and to 114 00:05:26,864 --> 00:05:28,264 Speaker 2: jumpson like you can't say that. 115 00:05:28,624 --> 00:05:30,504 Speaker 1: She's like, now that's going to be the headline. Yeah, 116 00:05:30,504 --> 00:05:33,584 Speaker 1: because female celebrities bring their moms to stuff all the time, 117 00:05:33,824 --> 00:05:36,024 Speaker 1: but it doesn't really make headlines because it's kind of 118 00:05:36,064 --> 00:05:38,144 Speaker 1: just expected that a daughter like Marco Robbie brings her 119 00:05:38,184 --> 00:05:40,664 Speaker 1: mom to stuff. So the other celebrities do, but whenever 120 00:05:40,704 --> 00:05:42,544 Speaker 1: the men do it, it's like, oh, look at them, 121 00:05:42,584 --> 00:05:44,184 Speaker 1: and you're right, they so do it a lot of 122 00:05:44,184 --> 00:05:47,264 Speaker 1: the time doing damage control sometimes obviously for it's an 123 00:05:47,304 --> 00:05:49,064 Speaker 1: oscar or something like that, and they've got their mum 124 00:05:49,144 --> 00:05:51,064 Speaker 1: sitting there, like that's fair enough, that's probably what you 125 00:05:51,184 --> 00:05:53,944 Speaker 1: want there. But the walking the red carpet's always the 126 00:05:54,024 --> 00:05:56,784 Speaker 1: sign because a lot of the time these big celebrities, 127 00:05:56,824 --> 00:05:59,384 Speaker 1: so two men who do it all the time. Leana 128 00:05:59,504 --> 00:06:02,304 Speaker 1: di DiCaprio. And yes, his mom was like has been 129 00:06:02,344 --> 00:06:04,104 Speaker 1: like a Christian er in his life since he was 130 00:06:04,104 --> 00:06:05,864 Speaker 1: a tiny little kid. Like she was the one who 131 00:06:05,904 --> 00:06:08,544 Speaker 1: was like getting the auditions and like made him famous. 132 00:06:08,584 --> 00:06:11,424 Speaker 1: They were like a team chasing fame together. So I 133 00:06:11,504 --> 00:06:13,824 Speaker 1: understand why she'd be there. But every time he's been 134 00:06:13,824 --> 00:06:16,224 Speaker 1: in the press for like dating a younger woman or 135 00:06:16,264 --> 00:06:18,224 Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff, and he doesn't do interviews 136 00:06:18,304 --> 00:06:20,984 Speaker 1: very often. He only does them for these big work events. 137 00:06:21,224 --> 00:06:23,024 Speaker 1: So he would always walk the red carpet with his 138 00:06:23,104 --> 00:06:24,664 Speaker 1: mom and everyone just be like, who are you here 139 00:06:24,704 --> 00:06:27,224 Speaker 1: with and he said my mom, and everyone goes oh, 140 00:06:27,424 --> 00:06:27,904 Speaker 1: and then like. 141 00:06:27,824 --> 00:06:29,504 Speaker 2: A little protective shield or like no. 142 00:06:29,544 --> 00:06:31,704 Speaker 1: Scandalous questions because no one wants to embarrass lea in 143 00:06:31,744 --> 00:06:34,544 Speaker 1: front of his mom. I'm just standing there. Bradley Cooper 144 00:06:34,584 --> 00:06:36,544 Speaker 1: also does it a lot. He did it. He does 145 00:06:36,864 --> 00:06:39,104 Speaker 1: do it all the time a lot. When there were 146 00:06:39,104 --> 00:06:41,144 Speaker 1: like break up rumors with him and Irena Shake and 147 00:06:41,144 --> 00:06:43,664 Speaker 1: when their breakup was actually happening, he walked so many 148 00:06:43,664 --> 00:06:45,424 Speaker 1: red carpets with his mom when there was all those 149 00:06:45,464 --> 00:06:48,464 Speaker 1: allegations he cheated on her with Lady Gaga. His mom's 150 00:06:48,544 --> 00:06:50,704 Speaker 1: just doing the rounds up and down. Yeah. 151 00:06:50,824 --> 00:06:53,704 Speaker 2: I also think they use it as a stop talking 152 00:06:53,744 --> 00:06:56,384 Speaker 2: about who I'm dating right now. I remember Ryan Gosling 153 00:06:56,384 --> 00:06:59,544 Speaker 2: would do it a lot, well, he started dating even Mendez, 154 00:07:00,064 --> 00:07:01,984 Speaker 2: And I think it's just such a good way of 155 00:07:02,104 --> 00:07:04,864 Speaker 2: like everyone going, okay, he's definitely dating someone because he 156 00:07:04,904 --> 00:07:06,504 Speaker 2: bought his mom and not another day. 157 00:07:07,064 --> 00:07:08,864 Speaker 1: It's always a red flag that they've either just been 158 00:07:08,904 --> 00:07:10,944 Speaker 1: through a breakup or they eat anew real relationship and 159 00:07:10,984 --> 00:07:13,544 Speaker 1: they're bringing their mum. And also, Ryan Gosling, You're so right. 160 00:07:13,544 --> 00:07:15,144 Speaker 1: Everyone thinks he's such I'm sure he's lovely. 161 00:07:16,464 --> 00:07:18,304 Speaker 2: Everyone thinks he's like this really nice guy. 162 00:07:18,224 --> 00:07:20,024 Speaker 1: And he's not just decided as I was talking, that's 163 00:07:20,024 --> 00:07:24,224 Speaker 1: probably not the hell, I'm sure. No, No, it's because 164 00:07:24,464 --> 00:07:27,384 Speaker 1: he always tells his story if he took his to 165 00:07:27,424 --> 00:07:28,984 Speaker 1: the oscars. Do you know what I'm talking. 166 00:07:28,824 --> 00:07:30,424 Speaker 2: About doesn't involve a Meryl Street. 167 00:07:30,544 --> 00:07:33,144 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And everyone had told his mom, like his 168 00:07:33,224 --> 00:07:35,344 Speaker 1: mum's best friend had told her that everyone would be 169 00:07:35,344 --> 00:07:36,984 Speaker 1: wearing a bee hive and that was the look she 170 00:07:37,024 --> 00:07:37,384 Speaker 1: should go. 171 00:07:37,984 --> 00:07:40,024 Speaker 2: Meaning like the hair in like a beehive. 172 00:07:40,064 --> 00:07:42,784 Speaker 1: Yeah, like super all the way, like a huge, big 173 00:07:43,624 --> 00:07:46,424 Speaker 1: poofed teased kind of confection, like. 174 00:07:46,544 --> 00:07:49,264 Speaker 2: Beyonce in the single Ladies Yeah video like all the Way, 175 00:07:49,544 --> 00:07:53,824 Speaker 2: or me like circa year eleven, a lot of the 176 00:07:53,864 --> 00:07:55,064 Speaker 2: whole bottle of pants prays God. 177 00:07:55,224 --> 00:07:57,784 Speaker 1: Yeah when you make a little quick at the me 178 00:07:57,864 --> 00:08:00,304 Speaker 1: and Ryan Goslick's mom rocking the same handoo and then 179 00:08:00,344 --> 00:08:02,304 Speaker 1: she got there and everyone had very natural, like a 180 00:08:02,464 --> 00:08:04,784 Speaker 1: sleek bun, and so yeah. Ryan Gosling always tells the 181 00:08:04,824 --> 00:08:06,544 Speaker 1: story how he leaned over to Meryl Streep was like, 182 00:08:06,744 --> 00:08:08,744 Speaker 1: would you say something nice to my mum about her hair? 183 00:08:08,904 --> 00:08:11,944 Speaker 1: And Merror was allegedly which I kind of also believe, 184 00:08:12,104 --> 00:08:13,504 Speaker 1: was like, I don't worry, I got this, and she 185 00:08:13,584 --> 00:08:15,144 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I wish i'd done a bee high. 186 00:08:16,984 --> 00:08:19,224 Speaker 1: That man has dined down on that story for years. 187 00:08:19,104 --> 00:08:20,744 Speaker 2: And his mums want to be hive episode. 188 00:08:21,384 --> 00:08:23,824 Speaker 1: He's mortuably say, they're thinking every time she hears that story, 189 00:08:23,904 --> 00:08:26,144 Speaker 1: told being like, I actually just thought Meryl Street liked 190 00:08:26,184 --> 00:08:27,864 Speaker 1: my hair, and now I know that my son had 191 00:08:27,904 --> 00:08:30,184 Speaker 1: just been like, hey, well the moms are. 192 00:08:30,104 --> 00:08:32,344 Speaker 2: Coming out in full force. So next time you see 193 00:08:32,464 --> 00:08:36,304 Speaker 2: a celebrity man with his mum, question sheaper question question 194 00:08:36,424 --> 00:08:38,664 Speaker 2: the source question what he's doing some food for thought. 195 00:08:40,984 --> 00:08:43,624 Speaker 2: Well late last week after we done our podcast record 196 00:08:43,624 --> 00:08:45,624 Speaker 2: of the Day, which is quite rude. See it's some 197 00:08:45,704 --> 00:08:49,424 Speaker 2: important news broke. It'very funny because the actual podcast we 198 00:08:49,584 --> 00:08:53,784 Speaker 2: did that day, it's so wildly different to the news 199 00:08:53,864 --> 00:08:54,784 Speaker 2: that happened that day. 200 00:08:55,344 --> 00:08:56,824 Speaker 1: I know everyone's like, Oh, I can't wait to hear 201 00:08:56,864 --> 00:08:58,144 Speaker 1: what the spill girls are going to say about all 202 00:08:58,184 --> 00:08:58,944 Speaker 1: his breaking. 203 00:08:58,744 --> 00:09:01,464 Speaker 2: News movies that ascentially awakened this, I mean. 204 00:09:01,504 --> 00:09:04,264 Speaker 1: Great episode. You haven't listened to it. I've had so 205 00:09:04,344 --> 00:09:07,464 Speaker 1: many measures from Spillers either agreeing with us or being like, guys, 206 00:09:07,544 --> 00:09:11,064 Speaker 1: this is a weird choice. But you know what, we 207 00:09:11,184 --> 00:09:12,864 Speaker 1: have to gather our thoughts and take a moment. That's 208 00:09:12,904 --> 00:09:15,424 Speaker 1: why we're doing the headlines today. So the big breaking 209 00:09:15,504 --> 00:09:17,264 Speaker 1: news again in case you have a real life at 210 00:09:17,304 --> 00:09:18,704 Speaker 1: a job and a family who loves you and you 211 00:09:18,784 --> 00:09:21,904 Speaker 1: didn't see these photos, is that Kylie Jenner and Timothy 212 00:09:21,984 --> 00:09:25,144 Speaker 1: Chalomie walked a red carpet for the very first time 213 00:09:25,304 --> 00:09:28,384 Speaker 1: and posed for photos together in the two years that 214 00:09:28,464 --> 00:09:30,584 Speaker 1: they have been in a very public relationship. 215 00:09:30,664 --> 00:09:33,264 Speaker 2: So does that mean they're now in a relationship and 216 00:09:33,424 --> 00:09:34,504 Speaker 2: not a situationship? 217 00:09:35,184 --> 00:09:37,704 Speaker 1: Well, no, because she's been sitting next to him. It's 218 00:09:37,744 --> 00:09:40,224 Speaker 1: the red carpet, which is always the big kind of 219 00:09:40,824 --> 00:09:43,224 Speaker 1: thing of what stage you're going to take a relationship 220 00:09:43,304 --> 00:09:46,184 Speaker 1: to For the public, even red carpet was that, yeah, 221 00:09:46,264 --> 00:09:49,464 Speaker 1: this is interesting. So following all of the awards circuit 222 00:09:49,544 --> 00:09:52,504 Speaker 1: red carpets from the last couple of months, all the 223 00:09:52,544 --> 00:09:55,984 Speaker 1: big ones where Timothy was nominated for everything, plus all 224 00:09:55,984 --> 00:09:57,744 Speaker 1: the red carpets for his movie A. 225 00:09:57,784 --> 00:09:58,744 Speaker 2: Completely Unknown right. 226 00:09:58,784 --> 00:10:00,544 Speaker 1: I can never remember the name of that movie. It's 227 00:10:00,624 --> 00:10:01,344 Speaker 1: really hard to remember. 228 00:10:01,344 --> 00:10:01,984 Speaker 2: It's irrelevant. 229 00:10:03,424 --> 00:10:04,184 Speaker 1: I mean I did like it. 230 00:10:04,264 --> 00:10:05,144 Speaker 2: He did win an award for. 231 00:10:05,184 --> 00:10:07,624 Speaker 1: It, Yes, one award, Yeah, maybe if you one big one. 232 00:10:07,704 --> 00:10:09,664 Speaker 2: But as we know, he is going to be one 233 00:10:09,704 --> 00:10:10,104 Speaker 2: of the great. 234 00:10:10,344 --> 00:10:13,224 Speaker 1: Okay, can he just just let the man live? So 235 00:10:13,344 --> 00:10:16,104 Speaker 1: he did all the red carpets for his movie, all 236 00:10:16,144 --> 00:10:19,544 Speaker 1: the big award shows, and then recently Kylie has also 237 00:10:19,624 --> 00:10:21,664 Speaker 1: done like a few big events, including the met Gala, 238 00:10:21,944 --> 00:10:23,624 Speaker 1: And every time there was a big award show that 239 00:10:23,664 --> 00:10:25,264 Speaker 1: we knew or a red carpet we knew they were 240 00:10:25,264 --> 00:10:26,904 Speaker 1: going to be at, everyone was like, maybe this is 241 00:10:26,944 --> 00:10:29,264 Speaker 1: the time they're going to walk because often he would 242 00:10:29,304 --> 00:10:31,824 Speaker 1: walk the red carpet with his mum a red flag 243 00:10:31,904 --> 00:10:35,904 Speaker 1: as previously discussed, and then he would meet Kylie inside 244 00:10:36,024 --> 00:10:37,664 Speaker 1: and she would sit next to him, and the mum 245 00:10:37,744 --> 00:10:39,864 Speaker 1: gets booted to thea she goes and sits at the back. 246 00:10:40,024 --> 00:10:42,384 Speaker 1: But a lot of the time when his category was 247 00:10:42,424 --> 00:10:44,704 Speaker 1: about to be called, Kylie and his mom would switch 248 00:10:44,744 --> 00:10:46,424 Speaker 1: seats so she could be next to him for the 249 00:10:46,464 --> 00:10:48,304 Speaker 1: moment the camera panned him. So it was a very 250 00:10:48,344 --> 00:10:51,264 Speaker 1: well choreographed dance. And there were little moments in like 251 00:10:51,464 --> 00:10:53,944 Speaker 1: the last season with the Kardashians where Kylie would sort 252 00:10:53,984 --> 00:10:56,944 Speaker 1: of allude to being at things with Timothy, including that 253 00:10:57,064 --> 00:10:58,944 Speaker 1: phone call where she called Christiana and was like, oh 254 00:10:58,984 --> 00:11:00,344 Speaker 1: my god, I should have had my boobs out the 255 00:11:00,384 --> 00:11:02,544 Speaker 1: Gold globes. We were like, your boobs are great. Yeah, 256 00:11:02,584 --> 00:11:04,584 Speaker 1: she looked, I don't feel bad about that. And so 257 00:11:04,904 --> 00:11:08,224 Speaker 1: after the Met Gala when everyone expected them to make 258 00:11:08,224 --> 00:11:11,224 Speaker 1: their debut and were disappointed again, the podos finally came 259 00:11:11,264 --> 00:11:12,944 Speaker 1: out in the last couple of days of the two 260 00:11:12,984 --> 00:11:17,344 Speaker 1: of them attending the seventieth David D. Dotttella Awards in Rome. 261 00:11:17,904 --> 00:11:21,744 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds fancy, yeah, And were we expecting this 262 00:11:21,904 --> 00:11:23,504 Speaker 2: to happen? What kind of awards is this. 263 00:11:23,944 --> 00:11:26,464 Speaker 1: Well, it's a much more low key, I mean, obviously 264 00:11:26,584 --> 00:11:29,224 Speaker 1: very fancy, but you know, they were both in the gowns, tuxedos, 265 00:11:29,264 --> 00:11:31,344 Speaker 1: all of the works, and everyone was like why did 266 00:11:31,384 --> 00:11:33,704 Speaker 1: they choose that? But I think there's actually a lot 267 00:11:33,744 --> 00:11:36,744 Speaker 1: of strategy behind this. Well, the first thing is like 268 00:11:36,864 --> 00:11:39,064 Speaker 1: it would have been very disruptive of her to like 269 00:11:39,144 --> 00:11:41,984 Speaker 1: the whole press tour and everything for them to walk 270 00:11:42,024 --> 00:11:43,984 Speaker 1: the red car. But any of his film premierees with 271 00:11:44,104 --> 00:11:46,664 Speaker 1: this movie that was nominated for all the Oscars, and 272 00:11:46,784 --> 00:11:49,344 Speaker 1: then also at all the award shows, like he had 273 00:11:49,384 --> 00:11:51,984 Speaker 1: to do a bit of the award show circuit because 274 00:11:52,024 --> 00:11:53,544 Speaker 1: he was nominated and you're trying to get pressed for 275 00:11:53,624 --> 00:11:56,544 Speaker 1: the film. And it was very strategic of Kylie being 276 00:11:56,624 --> 00:11:59,984 Speaker 1: inside because then like they couldn't really people asked about her, 277 00:12:00,024 --> 00:12:01,904 Speaker 1: but he'd always laugh at off and walk away. But 278 00:12:01,984 --> 00:12:03,584 Speaker 1: if they had walked together, it would have been such 279 00:12:03,624 --> 00:12:06,944 Speaker 1: a red flag. Also, all of the headlines from those 280 00:12:06,984 --> 00:12:09,224 Speaker 1: events would have just been about that, So then other 281 00:12:09,264 --> 00:12:11,184 Speaker 1: people would have said, like, oh, way to take the 282 00:12:11,224 --> 00:12:13,824 Speaker 1: spotlight away from like people who you know won awards 283 00:12:13,904 --> 00:12:15,144 Speaker 1: or other movies, do you know what I mean? Like 284 00:12:15,184 --> 00:12:17,624 Speaker 1: it's very like it could have tipped the wrong way. Yeah, 285 00:12:17,744 --> 00:12:19,824 Speaker 1: if they'd kind of been too blatant. And then at 286 00:12:19,864 --> 00:12:21,984 Speaker 1: the met Gala. I actually think it's like at almost 287 00:12:22,024 --> 00:12:24,584 Speaker 1: like a page out of Kim Kardashian's handbook, because remember 288 00:12:24,624 --> 00:12:27,504 Speaker 1: when she did her first red carpet with Pete Davidson 289 00:12:27,504 --> 00:12:29,744 Speaker 1: when they were dating. They did like a more low 290 00:12:29,824 --> 00:12:32,864 Speaker 1: key red carpet before the met Gala, and there's like 291 00:12:32,904 --> 00:12:35,704 Speaker 1: footage of Kim saying on the Kardashians Walsh had one 292 00:12:35,704 --> 00:12:38,304 Speaker 1: of their first photos together for her to be brunette, 293 00:12:38,304 --> 00:12:39,784 Speaker 1: and then she had to go blonde for the net gala. 294 00:12:39,824 --> 00:12:41,824 Speaker 1: So that was one step. But the second thing is 295 00:12:41,864 --> 00:12:43,944 Speaker 1: that she didn't want that to overshadow the met Gala. 296 00:12:44,024 --> 00:12:47,144 Speaker 1: So this is unspoken thing that's really tacky to debut 297 00:12:47,224 --> 00:12:49,024 Speaker 1: your relationship at a big event like that. 298 00:12:49,464 --> 00:12:51,904 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would not. Thank god you told me, yeah, 299 00:12:51,904 --> 00:12:52,584 Speaker 2: because I was ready. 300 00:12:52,624 --> 00:12:54,304 Speaker 1: It's a girl. I'm better for knowing that information. 301 00:12:54,744 --> 00:12:58,264 Speaker 2: Yes, actually it is. And you're so right because it 302 00:12:58,464 --> 00:13:00,744 Speaker 2: was a big deal because we've always been talking about 303 00:13:00,784 --> 00:13:03,104 Speaker 2: how they never do red carpets together whenever they go 304 00:13:03,224 --> 00:13:06,344 Speaker 2: to awards ceremonies, and it's not just about seeing their relationship, 305 00:13:06,384 --> 00:13:09,224 Speaker 2: but everyone's just so interested to see what she's actually wearing, 306 00:13:09,344 --> 00:13:11,184 Speaker 2: like we want her to stand up and actually showed 307 00:13:11,184 --> 00:13:14,504 Speaker 2: the camera what she's wearing. And when these photos were 308 00:13:14,544 --> 00:13:18,184 Speaker 2: released over last week, it was like we were all 309 00:13:18,344 --> 00:13:20,904 Speaker 2: like whoa, yeah cool, but that was it. Yeah, it 310 00:13:20,984 --> 00:13:21,504 Speaker 2: wasn't anything. 311 00:13:21,544 --> 00:13:23,504 Speaker 1: He was such a thing so many people, and again 312 00:13:23,504 --> 00:13:24,904 Speaker 1: we were in the office when had happened, and then 313 00:13:24,944 --> 00:13:26,864 Speaker 1: people messaging and stuff. So many people said to me 314 00:13:27,104 --> 00:13:29,424 Speaker 1: that felt really anticlimactic, and I was like, what did 315 00:13:29,464 --> 00:13:30,744 Speaker 1: you think it was going to feel? Like? What did 316 00:13:30,784 --> 00:13:32,424 Speaker 1: you think was going to happen? Yeah, I don't know. 317 00:13:32,464 --> 00:13:34,344 Speaker 1: Maybe because it was such a small red carpet and 318 00:13:34,384 --> 00:13:36,664 Speaker 1: the photos just kind of came out and they just 319 00:13:36,744 --> 00:13:39,384 Speaker 1: looked lovely and happy. Well, I think is interesting is 320 00:13:39,424 --> 00:13:42,144 Speaker 1: how many people still think that he's so brave and 321 00:13:42,264 --> 00:13:44,624 Speaker 1: he's so like, you know, taking a stand to walk 322 00:13:44,664 --> 00:13:47,584 Speaker 1: a red carpet with her. What haven't you heard this? No? 323 00:13:47,704 --> 00:13:49,544 Speaker 1: People are just like what do they even talk about? 324 00:13:49,624 --> 00:13:51,304 Speaker 1: Like I can't believe he's dating her. He's trying to 325 00:13:51,304 --> 00:13:53,784 Speaker 1: be a serious actor. And to that, I say, like, 326 00:13:54,144 --> 00:13:56,984 Speaker 1: she's lived in this like very rich, elevated world, since 327 00:13:57,024 --> 00:13:59,184 Speaker 1: she was a child, she owns a business, she has 328 00:13:59,264 --> 00:14:02,784 Speaker 1: two kids, Like she probably seems very worldly and interesting 329 00:14:03,024 --> 00:14:06,024 Speaker 1: compared to maybe some other people that he's dated in 330 00:14:06,104 --> 00:14:08,784 Speaker 1: the past. Also, I just think that, like it doesn't 331 00:14:08,784 --> 00:14:11,064 Speaker 1: affect men as much of who they date. Like everyone's like, oh, 332 00:14:11,104 --> 00:14:12,664 Speaker 1: he's trying to be a serious actor. And if you 333 00:14:12,704 --> 00:14:14,464 Speaker 1: look back at like a lot of the serious actors 334 00:14:14,864 --> 00:14:17,544 Speaker 1: who really try and put themselves in this very elevated 335 00:14:17,544 --> 00:14:21,144 Speaker 1: Hollywood position, they're always like having scandalous like yeah, you know, 336 00:14:21,384 --> 00:14:24,624 Speaker 1: hookups with models or whatever, and doesn't it doesn't affect 337 00:14:24,664 --> 00:14:25,984 Speaker 1: their career, And we don't. 338 00:14:25,864 --> 00:14:27,984 Speaker 2: Know, right, Like he like acting for him is like 339 00:14:28,104 --> 00:14:30,944 Speaker 2: a job. He's still like in his mid twenties. He 340 00:14:30,984 --> 00:14:34,024 Speaker 2: could just be like a crazy kid who loves to party, Yeah, 341 00:14:34,464 --> 00:14:37,344 Speaker 2: drink and have fun and go wild, and then he 342 00:14:37,504 --> 00:14:39,384 Speaker 2: can still be serious because he does want to be 343 00:14:39,384 --> 00:14:40,824 Speaker 2: one of the greats like by old Davis, as we 344 00:14:40,944 --> 00:14:43,424 Speaker 2: know he wants to, and he probably just puts all 345 00:14:43,464 --> 00:14:45,944 Speaker 2: that energy back into his work when it's worked time exactly. 346 00:14:46,024 --> 00:14:47,944 Speaker 1: And I always think it's interesting how like he always 347 00:14:47,944 --> 00:14:50,384 Speaker 1: says that he asked Leonardo DiCaprio for advice on how 348 00:14:50,424 --> 00:14:53,024 Speaker 1: to be a great actor, and Leonardo DiCaprio said, there's 349 00:14:53,064 --> 00:14:57,104 Speaker 1: two rules, no hard drugs and no superhero movies. But 350 00:14:57,424 --> 00:14:59,304 Speaker 1: there's nothing on that list about who you date and 351 00:14:59,584 --> 00:15:00,024 Speaker 1: Leo's and. 352 00:15:00,064 --> 00:15:00,744 Speaker 2: How much you party. 353 00:15:00,824 --> 00:15:04,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, a party, and Leo is dated you know, yeah, 354 00:15:04,144 --> 00:15:07,984 Speaker 1: hes all yeah, every woman under twenty five, and that's 355 00:15:08,024 --> 00:15:10,184 Speaker 1: never affected his career. So but I just think it's 356 00:15:10,184 --> 00:15:12,264 Speaker 1: in just see how people think that Timothy Charalamagne is 357 00:15:12,304 --> 00:15:15,864 Speaker 1: doing Kylie jener a favor, because I think what, she's gorgeous. 358 00:15:15,584 --> 00:15:19,224 Speaker 2: She's like extremely successful, she has the biggest network out 359 00:15:19,224 --> 00:15:21,664 Speaker 2: of all the entire plan. I think she's fine. 360 00:15:21,984 --> 00:15:24,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, So anyway, that's their photos. I will just say 361 00:15:24,464 --> 00:15:26,664 Speaker 1: that one someone who's like in their network of people 362 00:15:26,704 --> 00:15:29,264 Speaker 1: getting ready, posted a photo. At first, I was thinking, oh, 363 00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:31,984 Speaker 1: it's so chic and like they're just two grown ups, like, 364 00:15:32,184 --> 00:15:34,424 Speaker 1: you know, walking a red carpet and there's sheik Italian 365 00:15:34,704 --> 00:15:37,024 Speaker 1: you know, film festival event. And then one of their 366 00:15:37,064 --> 00:15:39,944 Speaker 1: friends posted this photo where Kylie Jenner before they went out, 367 00:15:39,984 --> 00:15:41,864 Speaker 1: has got a lint roller and she's lint rolling. 368 00:15:42,144 --> 00:15:44,024 Speaker 2: Oh that's so romantic, Like. 369 00:15:47,384 --> 00:15:49,104 Speaker 1: I know, I was like getting a little boy ready 370 00:15:49,144 --> 00:15:51,864 Speaker 1: to go off to his school picture. She's like smoothing 371 00:15:51,944 --> 00:15:54,424 Speaker 1: his hair and like fixing his face and lint rolling 372 00:15:54,504 --> 00:15:55,144 Speaker 1: his outfits. 373 00:15:55,304 --> 00:15:56,464 Speaker 2: She's a mum. Maybe she's used to it. 374 00:15:56,704 --> 00:15:58,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe she was like, I've just some of my 375 00:15:58,264 --> 00:15:59,864 Speaker 1: kids all the time. Come here, Tim Tay, you've got 376 00:15:59,904 --> 00:16:02,104 Speaker 1: something on your shirt. I told you not to move around. 377 00:16:02,144 --> 00:16:04,104 Speaker 1: I told you to sit still until we went Oh. 378 00:16:04,304 --> 00:16:06,504 Speaker 1: That's really putting their photos photos in a whole different life. 379 00:16:08,584 --> 00:16:11,104 Speaker 1: So also in the last couple of days, equally as 380 00:16:11,184 --> 00:16:14,184 Speaker 1: important as the Kylie Timothy photos not really is that 381 00:16:14,264 --> 00:16:17,064 Speaker 1: we've had a major update in the legal case between 382 00:16:17,144 --> 00:16:20,864 Speaker 1: Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. So back in December twenty 383 00:16:20,944 --> 00:16:23,064 Speaker 1: twenty four, that was when a lot of us kicked off. 384 00:16:23,144 --> 00:16:26,584 Speaker 1: Blake Lively accused Justin Baldoni after working on the movie 385 00:16:26,624 --> 00:16:29,584 Speaker 1: It ends with us of sexual harassment and of mounting 386 00:16:29,664 --> 00:16:33,504 Speaker 1: this huge smear campaign against her. In return, Justin Baldoni 387 00:16:33,624 --> 00:16:36,544 Speaker 1: is now counter suing Blake Lively and her husband, Ryan 388 00:16:36,584 --> 00:16:41,344 Speaker 1: Reynolds on claims of civil extortion, defamation, and invasion of privacy. 389 00:16:41,864 --> 00:16:44,544 Speaker 1: So something we've covered extensively. There's been a lot of 390 00:16:44,704 --> 00:16:47,584 Speaker 1: statements back and forth. Justin Baldoni, for his part, has 391 00:16:47,784 --> 00:16:50,304 Speaker 1: put up an entire website with every wrong he has 392 00:16:50,424 --> 00:16:52,704 Speaker 1: ever thought that Blake Lively has done to him. So 393 00:16:52,744 --> 00:16:54,544 Speaker 1: if you've got a spare hour or two, you can 394 00:16:54,704 --> 00:16:55,224 Speaker 1: go through that. 395 00:16:55,384 --> 00:16:56,224 Speaker 2: It's a big website. 396 00:16:56,264 --> 00:16:59,944 Speaker 1: There's a lot of information on there. He's released videos, statements, letters. 397 00:16:59,984 --> 00:17:01,824 Speaker 1: Blake Lively had to get her legal team to go 398 00:17:01,904 --> 00:17:03,664 Speaker 1: to the judge and get him to like basically just 399 00:17:03,704 --> 00:17:06,744 Speaker 1: shut up for a little bit because there's almost a year. Well, 400 00:17:06,784 --> 00:17:09,224 Speaker 1: I guess a little worse now. March next year is 401 00:17:09,264 --> 00:17:11,264 Speaker 1: when this case is actually kicking off. So we've got 402 00:17:11,304 --> 00:17:13,544 Speaker 1: a long long way to go. But as part of 403 00:17:13,584 --> 00:17:18,024 Speaker 1: the legal proceedings, as justin, Baldoni's lawyer, Brian Friedman has 404 00:17:18,104 --> 00:17:20,424 Speaker 1: been threatening every time he wants a headline, he's threatened 405 00:17:20,464 --> 00:17:22,184 Speaker 1: this and he's gone ahead and done it. They have 406 00:17:22,384 --> 00:17:27,264 Speaker 1: subpoenaed Taylor Swift to be part of the legal proceedings. 407 00:17:27,624 --> 00:17:31,024 Speaker 2: So what does that actually mean? Because I feel, like 408 00:17:31,904 --> 00:17:35,624 Speaker 2: like everyone else, I was like, WHOA, Taylor's Swifts been subpoena? 409 00:17:35,744 --> 00:17:38,104 Speaker 2: Holy shit, Oh my god, this is crazy. Don't know 410 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:38,504 Speaker 2: what it means. 411 00:17:38,584 --> 00:17:41,104 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll saybe the Google. What subpoena is just in 412 00:17:41,184 --> 00:17:42,904 Speaker 1: case you ever get one, thank you, you should know 413 00:17:42,984 --> 00:17:45,384 Speaker 1: what that's true. Yeah, yeah, you can learning opportunity one 414 00:17:45,424 --> 00:17:47,904 Speaker 1: hundred percent. We all need this legal information our heads. 415 00:17:48,104 --> 00:17:50,664 Speaker 1: So a subpoena in summary, is like a court order 416 00:17:50,984 --> 00:17:54,144 Speaker 1: for a person to attend court to give evidence or 417 00:17:54,224 --> 00:17:56,464 Speaker 1: to produce a document or a thing to the court 418 00:17:56,664 --> 00:17:59,064 Speaker 1: or both things. So basically it's an order of like 419 00:17:59,224 --> 00:18:01,824 Speaker 1: often it's like you have to turn these documents over, 420 00:18:02,184 --> 00:18:04,184 Speaker 1: or you have to like turn your phone over and 421 00:18:04,264 --> 00:18:06,664 Speaker 1: your laptops they can take information for the court case, 422 00:18:06,944 --> 00:18:08,544 Speaker 1: or you have to show up at some part and 423 00:18:08,624 --> 00:18:12,024 Speaker 1: give like testimony in a trial and answer questions. Basically, 424 00:18:12,064 --> 00:18:13,744 Speaker 1: it's a legal order of like you have to come 425 00:18:13,824 --> 00:18:17,384 Speaker 1: and be part of these court proceedings, and the legal 426 00:18:18,064 --> 00:18:21,464 Speaker 1: teams on either side can subpoena people from each other's side, 427 00:18:21,504 --> 00:18:23,744 Speaker 1: So that's often how they go through and subpoena everyone 428 00:18:23,824 --> 00:18:26,784 Speaker 1: from the other person's side who they think can help 429 00:18:26,904 --> 00:18:29,504 Speaker 1: their case by making them essentially come into court and 430 00:18:29,544 --> 00:18:30,144 Speaker 1: tell the truth. 431 00:18:30,584 --> 00:18:34,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, because I've seen a lot of tweets which, look, 432 00:18:34,184 --> 00:18:36,384 Speaker 2: it's a serious case, but these tweets are quite funny. 433 00:18:36,464 --> 00:18:37,864 Speaker 1: WELLL I don't know if that's why should be getting 434 00:18:37,864 --> 00:18:39,744 Speaker 1: our legal information from, but it's a free one. Well. 435 00:18:39,784 --> 00:18:42,264 Speaker 2: I kind of through these tweets with people going, I 436 00:18:42,344 --> 00:18:44,304 Speaker 2: wonder what Easter eggs tailor Swift feel drop during the 437 00:18:44,344 --> 00:18:44,904 Speaker 2: court case. 438 00:18:46,704 --> 00:18:48,864 Speaker 1: She's wearing a necklace that's like the date of her 439 00:18:48,944 --> 00:18:52,944 Speaker 1: next album. She has to give up, just has like hints, yeah, 440 00:18:53,064 --> 00:18:54,824 Speaker 1: of when things are coming out. Or maybe it'll be 441 00:18:54,864 --> 00:18:56,784 Speaker 1: like when Gone withth Paltrow was in her Ski trial 442 00:18:56,864 --> 00:18:59,064 Speaker 1: and it was like all her amazing fashion and everything. 443 00:18:59,144 --> 00:19:00,464 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift will have court fashion. 444 00:19:00,624 --> 00:19:02,824 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift can be like I lost a full day 445 00:19:02,904 --> 00:19:03,704 Speaker 2: of the aerostol. 446 00:19:03,904 --> 00:19:07,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, to be fair, probably that exciting. She might like 447 00:19:08,024 --> 00:19:10,184 Speaker 1: video conference in or something like that, or she'll come 448 00:19:10,224 --> 00:19:11,824 Speaker 1: in for one day. It'll be a written statement. 449 00:19:11,904 --> 00:19:14,144 Speaker 2: It might be very anti because I're also pushing for 450 00:19:14,224 --> 00:19:18,104 Speaker 2: no cameras to be in the court. But something really interesting, 451 00:19:18,184 --> 00:19:20,664 Speaker 2: which I think rarely happens, especially with Swift. I think 452 00:19:20,744 --> 00:19:23,384 Speaker 2: she holds off to the last minute possible to give 453 00:19:23,504 --> 00:19:26,624 Speaker 2: a big statement. And the representative of her has talked 454 00:19:26,664 --> 00:19:31,344 Speaker 2: to People magazine after the subpoena was given and the 455 00:19:31,544 --> 00:19:34,704 Speaker 2: rep said Taylor Swift never set foot on the set 456 00:19:34,824 --> 00:19:37,824 Speaker 2: of this movie. She was not involved in any casting 457 00:19:37,984 --> 00:19:40,824 Speaker 2: or creative decisions. She did not score the film. She 458 00:19:40,984 --> 00:19:43,784 Speaker 2: never saw an edit or made any notes on the film. 459 00:19:44,064 --> 00:19:46,864 Speaker 2: She didn't even see It Ends with Us until weeks 460 00:19:46,984 --> 00:19:50,064 Speaker 2: after its public release, and was traveling around the globe 461 00:19:50,184 --> 00:19:52,744 Speaker 2: during twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four headlining the 462 00:19:52,784 --> 00:19:56,704 Speaker 2: biggest tour in history. The rep said the only involvement 463 00:19:56,824 --> 00:19:59,904 Speaker 2: Swift had in the entire process of this was licensing 464 00:19:59,984 --> 00:20:03,264 Speaker 2: one of her songs, My Tears Ricochet, which nineteen other 465 00:20:03,424 --> 00:20:07,184 Speaker 2: artists also did, yet they're not being subpoenaed either. It 466 00:20:07,384 --> 00:20:10,864 Speaker 2: ended with saying, this document supoena is designed to use 467 00:20:10,984 --> 00:20:14,304 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's name to draw public interest by creating tabloid 468 00:20:14,344 --> 00:20:17,664 Speaker 2: clickbait instead of focusing on the facts of the case. 469 00:20:18,224 --> 00:20:21,664 Speaker 2: So there are a few things here. Firstly, watching your 470 00:20:21,704 --> 00:20:23,744 Speaker 2: Best Friends movie two weeks after it's at released a 471 00:20:23,864 --> 00:20:24,144 Speaker 2: bit of. 472 00:20:24,104 --> 00:20:27,944 Speaker 1: A red flag only if you're, as she's saying, headlining 473 00:20:27,944 --> 00:20:29,264 Speaker 1: the biggest that's true in the world. 474 00:20:29,344 --> 00:20:32,184 Speaker 2: But I mean a lot of planes. There are TVs 475 00:20:32,224 --> 00:20:34,304 Speaker 2: on planes, even the ones archs commonist. 476 00:20:33,984 --> 00:20:35,544 Speaker 1: Tape in a private plane. 477 00:20:35,904 --> 00:20:39,584 Speaker 2: I'm sure TV on that private plane. So this whole 478 00:20:39,624 --> 00:20:43,784 Speaker 2: thing happened because she was allegedly mentioned by Justin Maldoney 479 00:20:43,904 --> 00:20:46,784 Speaker 2: during this whole thing, saying he alleged that he went 480 00:20:46,944 --> 00:20:49,584 Speaker 2: over to Blake Lily's house to talk about some of 481 00:20:49,664 --> 00:20:52,024 Speaker 2: the scripting of the movie, and then he said he 482 00:20:52,184 --> 00:20:55,384 Speaker 2: was ambushed by then Ryan Reynolds and later Taylor Swift, 483 00:20:55,504 --> 00:20:57,584 Speaker 2: and he felt like he was forced to make changes 484 00:20:58,144 --> 00:20:59,704 Speaker 2: during the scripting of the movie. 485 00:20:59,864 --> 00:21:02,464 Speaker 1: Imagine just looking up and seeing Ryan Reynolds and Taylor 486 00:21:02,504 --> 00:21:04,944 Speaker 1: Swift like loving over you. That's like the worst kind 487 00:21:04,944 --> 00:21:07,464 Speaker 1: of sleep paralysis, the intensity. 488 00:21:07,584 --> 00:21:11,664 Speaker 2: Yeah, there were also allegations of text messages that Blake 489 00:21:11,704 --> 00:21:15,344 Speaker 2: Lively sent Justin Baldoni asking him if he's watched a 490 00:21:15,384 --> 00:21:19,304 Speaker 2: Game of Thrones and then calling herself Kalisi and allering 491 00:21:19,384 --> 00:21:22,984 Speaker 2: that Ryan and Taylor were her dragons. So that was 492 00:21:23,064 --> 00:21:25,824 Speaker 2: kind of what we heard about Taylor Swift's involvement. But 493 00:21:25,904 --> 00:21:28,744 Speaker 2: there are also other people that are starting to get 494 00:21:28,784 --> 00:21:33,224 Speaker 2: involved that could be called to testify, including a Hugh Jackman. 495 00:21:34,024 --> 00:21:38,104 Speaker 1: Well, exactly because Hugh Jackman was so intertwined with Ryan 496 00:21:38,184 --> 00:21:41,064 Speaker 1: Reynolds and Blake Lively at the time because of Deadpool 497 00:21:41,104 --> 00:21:43,944 Speaker 1: and Wolverine, the movie that he made with Ryan Reynolds, 498 00:21:44,144 --> 00:21:47,064 Speaker 1: premiering just before It Ends with Us. But also he 499 00:21:47,184 --> 00:21:49,144 Speaker 1: and Blake Lively were doing joint press. You know, they 500 00:21:49,184 --> 00:21:52,024 Speaker 1: did that Vogue cover shoot together and they were trading like, 501 00:21:52,104 --> 00:21:54,104 Speaker 1: you know, things back and forth of the press. She 502 00:21:54,304 --> 00:21:57,504 Speaker 1: was obviously at the premiere for Wolverine and Deadpool. 503 00:21:57,144 --> 00:21:57,544 Speaker 2: Which. 504 00:21:59,864 --> 00:22:01,584 Speaker 1: I don't want to start a feud, and then Hugh 505 00:22:01,704 --> 00:22:04,224 Speaker 1: Jackman was like front and center on the red carpet 506 00:22:04,664 --> 00:22:07,264 Speaker 1: that It Ends with Us premiere, standing like almost between 507 00:22:07,704 --> 00:22:11,664 Speaker 1: Blake and Ryan in those photos, while Justin Baldoni alleges 508 00:22:11,704 --> 00:22:13,344 Speaker 1: that he and his family were looked in a basement 509 00:22:13,424 --> 00:22:15,664 Speaker 1: under the cinema and not allowed to walk, So I 510 00:22:15,704 --> 00:22:18,144 Speaker 1: think it's stepming from that. But what's kind of interesting 511 00:22:18,304 --> 00:22:20,904 Speaker 1: is so Taylorsof's team has accused and a lot of 512 00:22:20,944 --> 00:22:24,824 Speaker 1: people also in Blake Lively's camp have accused Justin Baldoni's 513 00:22:24,864 --> 00:22:27,944 Speaker 1: team of just using Taylor Swift to get headlines and 514 00:22:28,144 --> 00:22:30,264 Speaker 1: to bring attention to the case. But I think it's 515 00:22:30,264 --> 00:22:32,864 Speaker 1: actually more than that. What they're trying to do is 516 00:22:33,504 --> 00:22:35,344 Speaker 1: not drive a rift between the two of them, although 517 00:22:35,384 --> 00:22:37,664 Speaker 1: apparently that's what's happened, and like we don't know, maybe 518 00:22:37,744 --> 00:22:41,264 Speaker 1: after the whole did Travis Kelcey unfollow Ryan Reynolds or 519 00:22:41,264 --> 00:22:44,184 Speaker 1: what's happening there and Ellibert sort of stuff. They're trying 520 00:22:44,224 --> 00:22:47,704 Speaker 1: to prove that if Blake Lively lied about Taylorsift's involvement, 521 00:22:48,144 --> 00:22:50,904 Speaker 1: then what else did she lie about in the whole 522 00:22:51,224 --> 00:22:54,264 Speaker 1: legal situation, Because the thing is Taylorstoff being involved with 523 00:22:54,344 --> 00:22:55,784 Speaker 1: a movie or not is not going to make or 524 00:22:55,824 --> 00:22:58,104 Speaker 1: break this case. Yeah, like if she was really involved 525 00:22:58,144 --> 00:23:01,824 Speaker 1: in her friend's movie, unless she was also like torturing 526 00:23:01,944 --> 00:23:04,944 Speaker 1: Justin Baldoni or like you know, defamation, extortion, all these 527 00:23:04,984 --> 00:23:08,624 Speaker 1: things he's alleging, there's no proof, and like Justin Baldoni's 528 00:23:08,624 --> 00:23:10,904 Speaker 1: team is not saying that Taylor Swift was direct involved 529 00:23:10,944 --> 00:23:12,864 Speaker 1: in that. I think what they're trying to prove is 530 00:23:12,944 --> 00:23:15,344 Speaker 1: that Blake Lively had built up this whole story of 531 00:23:15,464 --> 00:23:17,584 Speaker 1: lies and now it's unraveling and they're trying to make 532 00:23:17,584 --> 00:23:20,544 Speaker 1: her look like an unreliable person in this situation so 533 00:23:20,744 --> 00:23:23,064 Speaker 1: that her claims of sexual harassment. This is what I'm thinking, 534 00:23:23,144 --> 00:23:26,224 Speaker 1: just my opinion, Yeah, her claims of sexual harassment won't 535 00:23:26,264 --> 00:23:28,264 Speaker 1: be seen as true. Because if you look at Blake 536 00:23:28,344 --> 00:23:31,224 Speaker 1: Lively's side of it, she talked about Taylor Swift like 537 00:23:31,704 --> 00:23:34,304 Speaker 1: being involved in the movie in certain ways and talking 538 00:23:34,344 --> 00:23:36,504 Speaker 1: to her about the ideas and the songs, and in 539 00:23:36,584 --> 00:23:39,784 Speaker 1: those messages back and forth between Justin and Blake, she's 540 00:23:39,904 --> 00:23:42,464 Speaker 1: talking about like writing the script and Taylor thinking the 541 00:23:42,504 --> 00:23:45,864 Speaker 1: script is amazing and basically and fairing like Taylor is 542 00:23:45,944 --> 00:23:48,384 Speaker 1: like known for her creativity in her writing and her 543 00:23:48,744 --> 00:23:51,184 Speaker 1: ability to like have this huge fandom, and if she 544 00:23:51,304 --> 00:23:53,824 Speaker 1: says my writing's good, then Justin should you know, be 545 00:23:53,944 --> 00:23:56,864 Speaker 1: across at all those sort of things. And now Taylor 546 00:23:56,944 --> 00:23:59,784 Speaker 1: has saying that she is not involved at all, even 547 00:23:59,864 --> 00:24:02,224 Speaker 1: though one of his biggest criticisms is her being at 548 00:24:02,264 --> 00:24:04,824 Speaker 1: the apartment that night and him feeling like Taylor Swift 549 00:24:04,904 --> 00:24:06,904 Speaker 1: forced her. But also now it's kind of hard to 550 00:24:06,944 --> 00:24:10,864 Speaker 1: know the truth because Taylor Swift's saying that she wasn't 551 00:24:10,864 --> 00:24:13,664 Speaker 1: involved at all, didn't see the movie, wasn't there not 552 00:24:13,744 --> 00:24:14,184 Speaker 1: a part of it. 553 00:24:14,304 --> 00:24:16,304 Speaker 2: It kind of makes it look like they're both lying then, 554 00:24:16,464 --> 00:24:19,144 Speaker 2: right because Justin Baldoni saying he saw Taylor Swift at 555 00:24:19,144 --> 00:24:23,184 Speaker 2: them in and he's like, oh he was, so he 556 00:24:23,304 --> 00:24:27,144 Speaker 2: was like the ghost of Taylor. He's just about Taylor 557 00:24:27,224 --> 00:24:29,744 Speaker 2: and dragons that I manifested her in my mind. Oh, 558 00:24:29,984 --> 00:24:32,544 Speaker 2: at the same time, it could also work in his favor, 559 00:24:32,704 --> 00:24:36,064 Speaker 2: Like he said that Blake, when sending those messages to him, 560 00:24:36,184 --> 00:24:38,504 Speaker 2: was just lying, saying she's telling Taylor all of this 561 00:24:38,544 --> 00:24:40,944 Speaker 2: stuff when really she's not, just to get ahead. 562 00:24:41,104 --> 00:24:42,624 Speaker 1: If it's a lie, we don't know if, but if 563 00:24:42,664 --> 00:24:44,384 Speaker 1: it is a lie, it's one that like permeated the 564 00:24:44,424 --> 00:24:46,784 Speaker 1: whole cast because a lot of them talked about how 565 00:24:46,824 --> 00:24:48,704 Speaker 1: lovely it was to have Taylor Swift involved in the 566 00:24:48,784 --> 00:24:51,544 Speaker 1: project and like how nice it was. And Isabelle Ferrier, 567 00:24:51,784 --> 00:24:54,024 Speaker 1: the young actress who plays the younger version of Blake 568 00:24:54,024 --> 00:24:57,344 Speaker 1: Lively's character of the movie, was on Red Carpets talking 569 00:24:57,344 --> 00:25:01,184 Speaker 1: about how she had been told that Taylor Swift was 570 00:25:01,264 --> 00:25:03,704 Speaker 1: part of her casting process and she loves Taylor Swift 571 00:25:03,744 --> 00:25:06,064 Speaker 1: obviously she's a human being. So she was like, I 572 00:25:06,104 --> 00:25:08,544 Speaker 1: can't believe that Taylor Swift watched my audition tape and 573 00:25:08,544 --> 00:25:10,384 Speaker 1: I can't believe she helped choose me and she you 574 00:25:10,384 --> 00:25:10,664 Speaker 1: thought I. 575 00:25:10,824 --> 00:25:12,504 Speaker 2: And Taylor's like, I don't know who that girl is. 576 00:25:12,704 --> 00:25:15,784 Speaker 1: Well exactly now, It's like, was she saying something to 577 00:25:15,904 --> 00:25:17,744 Speaker 1: kind of feed into the narrative, or what I think 578 00:25:17,824 --> 00:25:19,464 Speaker 1: is more likely is that she was told that in 579 00:25:19,544 --> 00:25:21,384 Speaker 1: some sort of meeting or production or something and she 580 00:25:21,464 --> 00:25:23,464 Speaker 1: held onto it because like that's a lovely thing to think. 581 00:25:23,504 --> 00:25:25,304 Speaker 1: But now you have all these things on the record 582 00:25:25,384 --> 00:25:27,624 Speaker 1: that look like Taylor Swift was pulling the strings of 583 00:25:27,704 --> 00:25:30,384 Speaker 1: this movie, which is how they've been able to subpoena her. 584 00:25:30,504 --> 00:25:33,504 Speaker 1: So if that goes ahead and her legal team isn't 585 00:25:33,544 --> 00:25:35,624 Speaker 1: able to like you know, block things or have it 586 00:25:35,704 --> 00:25:37,424 Speaker 1: dismissed or anything like that, that means they could go 587 00:25:37,504 --> 00:25:42,184 Speaker 1: through Taylorsift's phone, Her messages could be made public, emails, documents, 588 00:25:42,264 --> 00:25:44,584 Speaker 1: her travel itinery like they could you know, obviously check 589 00:25:44,704 --> 00:25:47,904 Speaker 1: like where she was at different times, conversations that were 590 00:25:47,944 --> 00:25:50,264 Speaker 1: being had other people on her on her team who 591 00:25:50,344 --> 00:25:52,944 Speaker 1: had sent correspondence about the movie. Like it could be 592 00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:53,904 Speaker 1: very vast. 593 00:25:54,424 --> 00:25:55,024 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 594 00:25:55,104 --> 00:25:56,704 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's going to be anything in there, 595 00:25:56,744 --> 00:25:58,864 Speaker 1: And unless they have some sort of information, I don't 596 00:25:58,864 --> 00:26:00,704 Speaker 1: think it's going to be like a document where Taylor 597 00:26:00,744 --> 00:26:02,744 Speaker 1: Swift was like to Blake Lively like this is how 598 00:26:02,824 --> 00:26:05,984 Speaker 1: you take Justin Belldni down. I think it's more to come. 599 00:26:05,824 --> 00:26:07,784 Speaker 2: And it's not even about that, is it's just about 600 00:26:07,864 --> 00:26:11,344 Speaker 2: putting all her records for the public. See, Yeah, and 601 00:26:11,544 --> 00:26:14,624 Speaker 2: like really scrutinizing these women essentially. 602 00:26:14,504 --> 00:26:18,024 Speaker 1: Exactly and also making it look like potentially was Blake 603 00:26:18,104 --> 00:26:20,944 Speaker 1: telling the cast. Again, this is what I'm trying to 604 00:26:20,944 --> 00:26:23,984 Speaker 1: get into, Like Justin Baldoni his legal team thinking them saying, 605 00:26:24,144 --> 00:26:26,424 Speaker 1: we're going to like show the world that Blake c 606 00:26:26,464 --> 00:26:29,824 Speaker 1: Lively was not only lying to the public about Taylor's's involvement, 607 00:26:29,904 --> 00:26:31,544 Speaker 1: but she was lying to the cast and crew of 608 00:26:31,584 --> 00:26:34,104 Speaker 1: the movie, and therefore she cannot be trusted. So therefore 609 00:26:34,104 --> 00:26:35,864 Speaker 1: what else has she lied about? And kind of like 610 00:26:36,304 --> 00:26:38,544 Speaker 1: pulling it all those strings and making her look like 611 00:26:38,624 --> 00:26:42,464 Speaker 1: a very unreliable witness. So that's an interesting thing. And 612 00:26:42,504 --> 00:26:44,784 Speaker 1: the other thing is like, and Hugh Jackman's there as well. Yeah, 613 00:26:44,824 --> 00:26:47,184 Speaker 1: and Hugh Jackman's just there and you know, just trying 614 00:26:47,184 --> 00:26:50,024 Speaker 1: to live his life. And well, I mean also because 615 00:26:50,064 --> 00:26:52,504 Speaker 1: they were just all these public faces during the press 616 00:26:52,544 --> 00:26:55,184 Speaker 1: of it. It's the press tour, which is where all 617 00:26:55,264 --> 00:26:57,864 Speaker 1: the whole thing started snowballing, like first against Blake and 618 00:26:57,944 --> 00:27:00,344 Speaker 1: then against Justin. So it is kind of relevant for 619 00:27:00,384 --> 00:27:02,504 Speaker 1: people who were on the press tour to be involved 620 00:27:02,544 --> 00:27:04,504 Speaker 1: in it. What do you think of these theories that 621 00:27:04,624 --> 00:27:07,304 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and Blake Clyvely are no longer friends over this. 622 00:27:08,024 --> 00:27:10,704 Speaker 2: No, I think they're still friends. I feel like they 623 00:27:10,864 --> 00:27:13,504 Speaker 2: would have known this was going to come like months ago, 624 00:27:13,704 --> 00:27:15,784 Speaker 2: and they've had to plan for it. Like I feel 625 00:27:15,784 --> 00:27:18,744 Speaker 2: like she would have had this statement ready and prepared 626 00:27:19,064 --> 00:27:21,824 Speaker 2: for a really really long time, and they're like planning 627 00:27:21,904 --> 00:27:25,664 Speaker 2: every step and they're probably five steps ahead. But I 628 00:27:25,824 --> 00:27:30,824 Speaker 2: think what they can't predict is the audience reception of everything, 629 00:27:30,864 --> 00:27:33,224 Speaker 2: because it's still a very mix, and I feel like 630 00:27:33,864 --> 00:27:36,144 Speaker 2: with the Johnny Depp and Amber her thing, I feel 631 00:27:36,184 --> 00:27:39,184 Speaker 2: like it's very similar where you would get like one 632 00:27:39,224 --> 00:27:41,384 Speaker 2: type of social media on one side and the other 633 00:27:41,464 --> 00:27:43,904 Speaker 2: type of social media on the completely other side, and 634 00:27:43,984 --> 00:27:47,584 Speaker 2: it's just depending on like the lens you view each 635 00:27:47,704 --> 00:27:49,344 Speaker 2: part of the court case, which is what we were 636 00:27:49,384 --> 00:27:51,664 Speaker 2: talking about really early on the Cave. But now it 637 00:27:51,704 --> 00:27:55,464 Speaker 2: feels very conflicted, Like everywhere I look, it's just I 638 00:27:55,544 --> 00:27:57,664 Speaker 2: get like I see different comments all the time, and 639 00:27:57,744 --> 00:28:00,544 Speaker 2: I think that's going to be hard for everyone involved 640 00:28:00,584 --> 00:28:03,064 Speaker 2: in this case because they're not actually able to predict 641 00:28:03,424 --> 00:28:06,064 Speaker 2: how it's going to land for each camp, and I 642 00:28:06,144 --> 00:28:09,144 Speaker 2: think with each camp seeing the stuff they see on 643 00:28:09,184 --> 00:28:11,384 Speaker 2: social media, they might all so only just be seeing 644 00:28:12,104 --> 00:28:14,704 Speaker 2: like what their fans are thinking. Yeah, so I feel 645 00:28:14,704 --> 00:28:17,024 Speaker 2: like they could all potentially think they're winners or all 646 00:28:17,064 --> 00:28:19,464 Speaker 2: potentially think they're losers, and we actually won't know. It's 647 00:28:19,504 --> 00:28:20,584 Speaker 2: one of the ones where we won't know. 648 00:28:20,664 --> 00:28:24,024 Speaker 1: Won't Well, eventually something's going to have to come out, 649 00:28:24,064 --> 00:28:26,344 Speaker 1: because the thing is that like taylorsifp hasn't been in 650 00:28:26,424 --> 00:28:28,584 Speaker 1: New York for such a long time, but when she 651 00:28:28,744 --> 00:28:31,904 Speaker 1: is in New York, like previously, she and Blake and 652 00:28:32,144 --> 00:28:35,304 Speaker 1: Ryan have always been pictured so publicly going to like 653 00:28:35,424 --> 00:28:37,664 Speaker 1: lots of different dinners and events together and all that 654 00:28:37,824 --> 00:28:40,664 Speaker 1: sort of thing. And I think if that doesn't happen again, 655 00:28:40,704 --> 00:28:42,304 Speaker 1: that will be a red flag because it's like, all 656 00:28:42,344 --> 00:28:45,744 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're this very public trio who are 657 00:28:45,824 --> 00:28:48,024 Speaker 1: out and about New York and all these like paparazzi 658 00:28:48,104 --> 00:28:50,984 Speaker 1: hotspots all the time. Just completely like stepping away from 659 00:28:51,064 --> 00:28:52,744 Speaker 1: doing that I think could be like quite a telling. 660 00:28:53,024 --> 00:28:55,424 Speaker 1: But even just Taylor's team putting that statement out and 661 00:28:55,464 --> 00:28:57,944 Speaker 1: the fact that when the New York Times did that 662 00:28:57,984 --> 00:29:02,024 Speaker 1: big article about Blake Lively's accusations. Most of the world, 663 00:29:02,064 --> 00:29:03,864 Speaker 1: it keeps swinging back and forth, we're like, oh, we 664 00:29:03,984 --> 00:29:06,064 Speaker 1: made a mistake, like we're actually on Blake Lively's side. 665 00:29:06,344 --> 00:29:08,344 Speaker 1: That was like the kind of battle cry for a 666 00:29:08,424 --> 00:29:10,744 Speaker 1: lot of her celebrity friends, like America for and like 667 00:29:10,824 --> 00:29:13,104 Speaker 1: Suspidel and all these other people and. 668 00:29:13,144 --> 00:29:16,344 Speaker 2: The amount of celebrities saw I had another simple favor premiere. Yeah, 669 00:29:16,464 --> 00:29:18,224 Speaker 2: Like I think it was very telling and like her 670 00:29:18,424 --> 00:29:21,984 Speaker 2: doing interviews seth myyes, like she's built so many strong 671 00:29:22,144 --> 00:29:25,784 Speaker 2: relationships in Hollywood and those relationships have power. 672 00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:27,544 Speaker 1: Oh exactly, and that I think that moment was like 673 00:29:27,544 --> 00:29:29,944 Speaker 1: a battle cry for her celebrity friends to feel safe 674 00:29:29,984 --> 00:29:31,864 Speaker 1: to say like we're on your side, we support you. 675 00:29:32,184 --> 00:29:35,344 Speaker 1: And Taylor Swift didn't, which again understandable from like where 676 00:29:35,384 --> 00:29:37,984 Speaker 1: her fame level is at. But the thing with this 677 00:29:38,104 --> 00:29:40,024 Speaker 1: statement is a lot of fans think that she's almost 678 00:29:40,104 --> 00:29:43,944 Speaker 1: chosen aside against Blake because the wording could have been 679 00:29:44,424 --> 00:29:46,464 Speaker 1: something along the lines of like I wasn't involved in this, 680 00:29:46,544 --> 00:29:48,504 Speaker 1: I wasn't involved in this, but like I stand by 681 00:29:48,944 --> 00:29:51,304 Speaker 1: you know, Blake, or I stand by this or I'm 682 00:29:51,344 --> 00:29:53,144 Speaker 1: always like you know, that sort of stuff where it 683 00:29:53,224 --> 00:29:55,504 Speaker 1: was very much like I have didn't even watch the movie. 684 00:29:55,584 --> 00:29:57,944 Speaker 1: I didn't do this, I didn't do that. So they've 685 00:29:57,984 --> 00:30:00,064 Speaker 1: all been asked about it. Like Ryan Reynolds was on 686 00:30:00,144 --> 00:30:02,584 Speaker 1: a red carpet recently and like fans were yelling out 687 00:30:02,584 --> 00:30:04,024 Speaker 1: of it and he was coming over to them because 688 00:30:04,024 --> 00:30:05,664 Speaker 1: you know, he loves a little chat. It's like this 689 00:30:05,824 --> 00:30:08,104 Speaker 1: video of Ryan Reynolds walking towards the fans and then 690 00:30:08,184 --> 00:30:10,544 Speaker 1: someone goes, did Travis Kelcey unfollow you? And he just goes, 691 00:30:10,624 --> 00:30:13,384 Speaker 1: look like turns around and like runs away. 692 00:30:13,544 --> 00:30:15,784 Speaker 2: They have to be so careful, Like I understand the 693 00:30:15,824 --> 00:30:18,504 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift thing and spans, but I think and I 694 00:30:18,664 --> 00:30:20,704 Speaker 2: honestly would have been on the same page if we 695 00:30:20,864 --> 00:30:22,904 Speaker 2: didn't have this podcast and I had to actually look 696 00:30:22,944 --> 00:30:24,944 Speaker 2: into it. Yeah, but I think any type of wording 697 00:30:24,984 --> 00:30:26,944 Speaker 2: where she says she's still friends with Blake or on 698 00:30:27,064 --> 00:30:30,264 Speaker 2: Blake's side is like another example that she could be 699 00:30:30,384 --> 00:30:32,744 Speaker 2: called to testify and she's trying not to get into 700 00:30:32,824 --> 00:30:34,384 Speaker 2: that like phrase, and I feel like her and Blake 701 00:30:34,384 --> 00:30:36,504 Speaker 2: would have had that exact conversation, right, So I can't 702 00:30:36,544 --> 00:30:38,744 Speaker 2: do this because then it will give them a chance 703 00:30:38,824 --> 00:30:41,144 Speaker 2: to make me testify, because they can call anyone to 704 00:30:41,224 --> 00:30:43,944 Speaker 2: testify if it's proven that they could have been witness 705 00:30:44,024 --> 00:30:46,944 Speaker 2: to the relationship that's happening. And it's very clear that 706 00:30:47,104 --> 00:30:50,064 Speaker 2: her and Hugh Jackman could have been prime witnesses to 707 00:30:50,144 --> 00:30:50,784 Speaker 2: that whole thing. 708 00:30:51,024 --> 00:30:53,504 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Well will be interesting to see where it 709 00:30:53,544 --> 00:30:56,024 Speaker 1: goes from here, because as we said, it's not until 710 00:30:56,064 --> 00:30:58,064 Speaker 1: March next year, but there'll be lots of like different 711 00:30:58,184 --> 00:31:00,744 Speaker 1: kind of movement in the legal case before then, and 712 00:31:00,864 --> 00:31:03,064 Speaker 1: to see like where this subpoena goes, I think the 713 00:31:03,104 --> 00:31:04,984 Speaker 1: most important thing is, like now we all know and 714 00:31:05,064 --> 00:31:07,224 Speaker 1: you know what a subpoena is, and that's just knowledge. 715 00:31:07,264 --> 00:31:08,304 Speaker 1: It's going to help you in the future. 716 00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:10,664 Speaker 2: I feel thank you so much for listening to The 717 00:31:10,704 --> 00:31:13,624 Speaker 2: Spill today, and don't forget to follow us on TikTok. 718 00:31:13,704 --> 00:31:15,984 Speaker 2: We are at the Spill podcast Over there. 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