1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:15,265 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:15,345 --> 00:00:18,385 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,465 --> 00:00:22,665 Speaker 1: is recorded on Makeup is My Therapy. I'm in love, 4 00:00:22,945 --> 00:00:25,825 Speaker 1: I'm obsess and I don't even feel guilty about it. 5 00:00:26,265 --> 00:00:30,865 Speaker 2: Na Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast 6 00:00:30,905 --> 00:00:34,225 Speaker 2: for your Face. I'm Aaron Dockerty and welcome to the formula. 7 00:00:34,905 --> 00:00:37,025 Speaker 2: Every week I sit down with celebs and some of 8 00:00:37,065 --> 00:00:39,505 Speaker 2: the biggest names in beauty and take a look into 9 00:00:39,545 --> 00:00:43,385 Speaker 2: their skincarey teams. And today I've snagged a chat with 10 00:00:43,505 --> 00:00:46,865 Speaker 2: the one and only Chloe Morello. When you think of 11 00:00:46,905 --> 00:00:50,305 Speaker 2: beauty bloggers, chances I you think of Chloe. She's the 12 00:00:50,385 --> 00:00:54,905 Speaker 2: og Beauty Royalty. As one of the world's most influential 13 00:00:54,905 --> 00:00:58,545 Speaker 2: beauty bloggers with millions of online followers. Chloe is a 14 00:00:58,625 --> 00:01:01,945 Speaker 2: legend in the beauty industry and whenever she recommends something, 15 00:01:02,185 --> 00:01:04,745 Speaker 2: you know what's got to be good. And today she 16 00:01:04,945 --> 00:01:07,705 Speaker 2: joins us for a chat about her skin journey from 17 00:01:07,705 --> 00:01:11,345 Speaker 2: acne to postpartum. Plus, she spills the tea on how 18 00:01:11,425 --> 00:01:15,185 Speaker 2: much money it actually costs to see the Kardashians skin 19 00:01:15,305 --> 00:01:19,305 Speaker 2: doctor in La Spoiler alert, it's worse than you think. 20 00:01:19,905 --> 00:01:23,345 Speaker 1: You are such beautiful skin, but how. 21 00:01:24,905 --> 00:01:28,585 Speaker 2: Tooe? Thank you so much for joining us today. We're 22 00:01:28,665 --> 00:01:32,585 Speaker 2: actually at an event together. We're at a cancer cancel 23 00:01:32,665 --> 00:01:35,905 Speaker 2: event yep. A nice little lunch, breakfast, breakfast, and then 24 00:01:35,945 --> 00:01:37,985 Speaker 2: I kind of just kidnapped you and now you're here. 25 00:01:38,145 --> 00:01:39,985 Speaker 1: Yep. Am I ever going to be let out of 26 00:01:40,025 --> 00:01:40,705 Speaker 1: this little box? 27 00:01:40,785 --> 00:01:43,505 Speaker 2: Maybe not? We love you. I'm so glad you're here 28 00:01:43,545 --> 00:01:46,745 Speaker 2: because you've been on your beauty before. You've had a 29 00:01:46,865 --> 00:01:50,385 Speaker 2: chat about makeup obviously, but we had to get you 30 00:01:50,425 --> 00:01:53,465 Speaker 2: on the formula. I want to know all about your skin. Yes, 31 00:01:54,105 --> 00:01:56,825 Speaker 2: how does your skincare eutine? So we have you in here. 32 00:01:57,265 --> 00:01:59,185 Speaker 2: I want to start off by asking you if you 33 00:01:59,225 --> 00:02:01,185 Speaker 2: can tell me a little bit about your journey with 34 00:02:01,225 --> 00:02:03,145 Speaker 2: your skin. What's it been like? 35 00:02:03,545 --> 00:02:05,745 Speaker 1: Well, it kind of been through a little bit of everything, 36 00:02:05,865 --> 00:02:09,265 Speaker 1: haven't I so teenager, dealing with acne and going on 37 00:02:09,305 --> 00:02:13,265 Speaker 1: medicaid for that, and then dealing with a nice out 38 00:02:13,265 --> 00:02:16,145 Speaker 1: of skin, and then getting pregnant and having babies and 39 00:02:16,225 --> 00:02:19,545 Speaker 1: everything that does to your skin. Things like just being 40 00:02:19,585 --> 00:02:22,865 Speaker 1: in Australia and growing up hearing all about how to 41 00:02:22,865 --> 00:02:26,145 Speaker 1: look after your skin, like sun protection, wise and dealing 42 00:02:26,185 --> 00:02:29,385 Speaker 1: with skin cancers in the family and loving skin care. 43 00:02:29,385 --> 00:02:31,825 Speaker 1: It's just skin is a huge part of my life. 44 00:02:31,865 --> 00:02:34,065 Speaker 2: As you said, you go through so many changes that 45 00:02:34,185 --> 00:02:37,185 Speaker 2: you go through life, and then you're also flying a 46 00:02:37,225 --> 00:02:37,905 Speaker 2: lot too. 47 00:02:38,025 --> 00:02:40,625 Speaker 1: You would be getting kicked in the face by my 48 00:02:40,745 --> 00:02:42,385 Speaker 1: todd last crap thing. 49 00:02:43,225 --> 00:02:44,985 Speaker 2: What would you say would be one of the biggest 50 00:02:45,105 --> 00:02:48,225 Speaker 2: challenges that you've had when it comes to skin concerns. 51 00:02:48,505 --> 00:02:51,665 Speaker 1: For me, the biggest one was the most like life affecting. 52 00:02:51,785 --> 00:02:54,265 Speaker 1: Like in high school, I was so depressed and upset 53 00:02:54,265 --> 00:02:56,745 Speaker 1: and getting bullied about it that my mum took me 54 00:02:56,785 --> 00:02:59,065 Speaker 1: to the doctor and I went on some medication. Luckily 55 00:02:59,105 --> 00:03:02,305 Speaker 1: it helped it. I went on like one of the antibiotics. Yeah, 56 00:03:02,345 --> 00:03:04,585 Speaker 1: so thankfully there is like help for a lot of 57 00:03:04,625 --> 00:03:08,025 Speaker 1: people if they get because it's a medical condition. So yeah, 58 00:03:08,145 --> 00:03:10,145 Speaker 1: I was grateful that my mum helped me with that. 59 00:03:10,385 --> 00:03:13,305 Speaker 2: Yeah, it can definitely be such a big Yeah, it 60 00:03:13,385 --> 00:03:14,265 Speaker 2: really affects you. 61 00:03:15,025 --> 00:03:17,225 Speaker 1: So I'm just grateful that those days are behind me. 62 00:03:17,265 --> 00:03:19,665 Speaker 1: I know, adult acne is a huge thing, but luckily 63 00:03:19,745 --> 00:03:21,745 Speaker 1: my I no longer get them ever since kids, I 64 00:03:21,785 --> 00:03:22,705 Speaker 1: barely get break. 65 00:03:22,505 --> 00:03:24,185 Speaker 2: Its, So I didn't struggle with it when I was 66 00:03:24,225 --> 00:03:26,505 Speaker 2: a teenager, and then all of a sudden it just 67 00:03:26,545 --> 00:03:28,745 Speaker 2: crept back to me. Acney. 68 00:03:28,785 --> 00:03:30,345 Speaker 1: We just like, how dare it? 69 00:03:31,705 --> 00:03:34,025 Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, I need to haunt me up. 70 00:03:34,065 --> 00:03:38,545 Speaker 1: Until I turned thirty. Every month hormonal acne annoyingly not bad, 71 00:03:38,585 --> 00:03:40,585 Speaker 1: but just like the annoying kind. And then once I 72 00:03:40,585 --> 00:03:43,705 Speaker 1: had kids, it's like, oh, the sun comes out and 73 00:03:43,745 --> 00:03:46,785 Speaker 1: my skin is beautiful. Like the main concern now that 74 00:03:46,825 --> 00:03:49,985 Speaker 1: I have is the sun spots or like malasma even 75 00:03:50,465 --> 00:03:52,505 Speaker 1: that they say is not even from the sun. It's 76 00:03:52,505 --> 00:03:54,145 Speaker 1: like hormonal after having kids. 77 00:03:54,145 --> 00:03:56,905 Speaker 2: And that's really common for people Yeah I had kids 78 00:03:56,985 --> 00:03:58,705 Speaker 2: or pregnant, Yeah, that you. 79 00:03:58,625 --> 00:04:01,225 Speaker 1: Can't really do anything about it a lot of the time, I. 80 00:04:01,145 --> 00:04:03,025 Speaker 2: Know, because if you're pregnant as well, and then. 81 00:04:03,465 --> 00:04:05,585 Speaker 1: Out of sun doesn't help. It's like a lot of 82 00:04:05,625 --> 00:04:08,385 Speaker 1: the time the heat apparently can like trigger it, like rude. 83 00:04:08,465 --> 00:04:12,105 Speaker 2: Very rude. A lot of people listening will relate to that. 84 00:04:12,985 --> 00:04:15,385 Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about the skincare industry. What 85 00:04:15,385 --> 00:04:18,785 Speaker 2: are some of the biggest shifts that you've seen recently. 86 00:04:19,305 --> 00:04:21,625 Speaker 1: I feel like the biggest thing, and it is really good, 87 00:04:22,145 --> 00:04:25,345 Speaker 1: is how interested everyone is on the science behind skincare, 88 00:04:25,385 --> 00:04:26,905 Speaker 1: and I think it's really good, and like, I love 89 00:04:26,945 --> 00:04:31,185 Speaker 1: that there's some fantastic like chemists and dermatologists out there. 90 00:04:31,225 --> 00:04:32,625 Speaker 1: There's also a lot of bad ones, I know that, 91 00:04:32,665 --> 00:04:35,745 Speaker 1: but making really good content, like educating people, because I 92 00:04:35,785 --> 00:04:37,625 Speaker 1: know it's one thing if I say something, but really 93 00:04:37,625 --> 00:04:40,185 Speaker 1: I don't have the medical background or anything. I love 94 00:04:40,225 --> 00:04:43,585 Speaker 1: that there's people out there educating you on ingredients and 95 00:04:43,785 --> 00:04:45,785 Speaker 1: proper skin health and stuff like that. Like I love 96 00:04:45,865 --> 00:04:50,185 Speaker 1: lad Muffin Beauty. We've had her on this morning on 97 00:04:50,385 --> 00:04:50,905 Speaker 1: Yeah me too. 98 00:04:51,545 --> 00:04:54,585 Speaker 2: He's wonderful. I think it's so great being able to 99 00:04:54,905 --> 00:04:58,665 Speaker 2: follow experts like that and being able to get that 100 00:04:58,785 --> 00:05:01,905 Speaker 2: kind of information empower free and it empowers you and 101 00:05:01,945 --> 00:05:04,025 Speaker 2: you can use it to make your routine better. 102 00:05:04,225 --> 00:05:06,465 Speaker 1: But also you can kind of get a leg up 103 00:05:06,505 --> 00:05:10,785 Speaker 1: against some of the misconcentions uh huh, or like no marketing. 104 00:05:11,025 --> 00:05:13,465 Speaker 1: You know, you can make a more educated decision as 105 00:05:13,465 --> 00:05:15,465 Speaker 1: to whether or not something is for your skin if 106 00:05:15,505 --> 00:05:17,305 Speaker 1: you know what nice cinema it is and what it's 107 00:05:17,305 --> 00:05:19,505 Speaker 1: for and like your skin concerns and. 108 00:05:19,385 --> 00:05:21,825 Speaker 2: What to look out for exactly. In terms of past 109 00:05:21,865 --> 00:05:22,825 Speaker 2: I love that. I love it. 110 00:05:22,945 --> 00:05:25,185 Speaker 1: I love the Internet. I love how it's connected everyone 111 00:05:25,225 --> 00:05:27,345 Speaker 1: so much in the education part of it, because that's 112 00:05:27,385 --> 00:05:29,945 Speaker 1: what I'm passionate about that. I love to It's like 113 00:05:29,985 --> 00:05:31,905 Speaker 1: my favorite thing to another one. I love Sam by 114 00:05:31,945 --> 00:05:34,705 Speaker 1: the counter. I don't know if you ah. 115 00:05:34,105 --> 00:05:36,625 Speaker 2: Very good all love love. I feel like my whole 116 00:05:36,745 --> 00:05:42,145 Speaker 2: entire social feed is just all dermatologist skin except give 117 00:05:42,185 --> 00:05:44,585 Speaker 2: me all the impain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. 118 00:05:45,025 --> 00:05:48,745 Speaker 2: Talking about misconceptions, what are some of the common misconceptions 119 00:05:48,825 --> 00:05:52,905 Speaker 2: that you see around skincare and SBF, Like, I'm sure 120 00:05:52,905 --> 00:05:54,705 Speaker 2: you get lots of questions all the time. 121 00:05:55,065 --> 00:05:57,545 Speaker 1: I think a big one now it's like it was 122 00:05:57,625 --> 00:06:00,745 Speaker 1: valid like ten twenty years ago, but sun protection has 123 00:06:00,745 --> 00:06:05,225 Speaker 1: come so far, Like the formulations are just so good, 124 00:06:05,305 --> 00:06:09,185 Speaker 1: performed so well now, so easy to reapply, so easy 125 00:06:09,185 --> 00:06:12,545 Speaker 1: to wear dear makeup, so like there's a formula for 126 00:06:12,585 --> 00:06:15,065 Speaker 1: everyone out there now, and so I just love that 127 00:06:15,105 --> 00:06:16,585 Speaker 1: they've made it so easy to make it a part 128 00:06:16,585 --> 00:06:18,905 Speaker 1: of your routine and you don't have to sort of 129 00:06:19,465 --> 00:06:24,025 Speaker 1: forgo your makeup performing well by putting SPF on, you know, 130 00:06:24,105 --> 00:06:27,825 Speaker 1: like nowadays, you know, for example, with cancer counsel, it's 131 00:06:27,905 --> 00:06:31,425 Speaker 1: the primer, the SPF and a moisturizer in one. 132 00:06:31,705 --> 00:06:34,385 Speaker 2: That's so true. I think you know, growing up, you'd 133 00:06:34,385 --> 00:06:36,145 Speaker 2: be like, oh god, I've got to put on sunscreen 134 00:06:36,265 --> 00:06:37,905 Speaker 2: and I'm going to get breakouts and it's going to 135 00:06:37,945 --> 00:06:41,825 Speaker 2: make me sticky. And yeah, we've just got your eyes 136 00:06:41,905 --> 00:06:45,265 Speaker 2: such like Australia is so strict with our regulations, but 137 00:06:45,425 --> 00:06:49,025 Speaker 2: so blessed with the amount of great formulas that we 138 00:06:49,105 --> 00:06:51,625 Speaker 2: have out there, and we've got options so everyone can 139 00:06:51,665 --> 00:06:53,225 Speaker 2: find My scientists. 140 00:06:52,785 --> 00:06:55,305 Speaker 1: Are in there like working hard. They're doing that thing, 141 00:06:55,385 --> 00:06:56,625 Speaker 1: finding out what's going. 142 00:06:56,585 --> 00:06:59,185 Speaker 2: To work, and it takes ages. It's not like an 143 00:06:59,185 --> 00:07:00,065 Speaker 2: easy process. 144 00:07:00,065 --> 00:07:09,065 Speaker 1: I don't envy them. 145 00:07:09,185 --> 00:07:10,905 Speaker 2: I mean, we're what is your self carouty? 146 00:07:11,105 --> 00:07:12,345 Speaker 1: Give us the dirty detail. 147 00:07:14,625 --> 00:07:17,025 Speaker 2: I want to get into your skincare routine. I'm like 148 00:07:17,225 --> 00:07:20,825 Speaker 2: itching to find out everything that you use. What does 149 00:07:20,825 --> 00:07:23,705 Speaker 2: your AM and PM skincare routine look like? Talk to 150 00:07:23,745 --> 00:07:25,145 Speaker 2: me about the products. 151 00:07:25,225 --> 00:07:28,305 Speaker 1: So in the morning. I can't remember who told me 152 00:07:28,385 --> 00:07:29,905 Speaker 1: that it was okay to do this, but I stopped 153 00:07:29,985 --> 00:07:31,585 Speaker 1: using cleanser in the morning a lot of the time 154 00:07:31,665 --> 00:07:33,625 Speaker 1: unless I really need it, Like unless I put a 155 00:07:33,665 --> 00:07:36,625 Speaker 1: mask on the night before, I just splsh splash my 156 00:07:36,705 --> 00:07:37,745 Speaker 1: face with water. 157 00:07:37,665 --> 00:07:42,065 Speaker 2: Because often You've got like so much like hydrating face already. 158 00:07:42,505 --> 00:07:45,625 Speaker 1: It looks like, yeah, like a shower before bed personally, 159 00:07:45,705 --> 00:07:47,825 Speaker 1: And I change my pillow cases like every two or 160 00:07:47,825 --> 00:07:49,785 Speaker 1: three days, so I'm not concerned that I'm like dirty, 161 00:07:50,265 --> 00:07:52,065 Speaker 1: and I just splashed my face and I feel like 162 00:07:52,065 --> 00:07:54,225 Speaker 1: that's been really good for my barrier. And then if 163 00:07:54,265 --> 00:07:56,985 Speaker 1: I'm really lazy, I'll just put my sunscreen on, especially 164 00:07:57,025 --> 00:07:59,625 Speaker 1: because that Cancer Council one is like three in one, 165 00:07:59,825 --> 00:08:01,865 Speaker 1: so you can just do that. But a lot of 166 00:08:01,905 --> 00:08:04,425 Speaker 1: the time I'm extra and I do have thousands of products, 167 00:08:04,465 --> 00:08:07,265 Speaker 1: so I do love to layer it all. I love it, 168 00:08:07,705 --> 00:08:10,185 Speaker 1: Vitamin C, a little bit of orange and morning. But 169 00:08:11,385 --> 00:08:15,065 Speaker 1: so right now I have got a fantastic drunk elephant, 170 00:08:15,065 --> 00:08:16,705 Speaker 1: the elliscorpic once. 171 00:08:16,905 --> 00:08:17,665 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. 172 00:08:17,705 --> 00:08:19,465 Speaker 1: And also just the little twisty top. I don't know 173 00:08:19,465 --> 00:08:21,305 Speaker 1: why I love that little twisty top they have it, 174 00:08:21,425 --> 00:08:22,985 Speaker 1: just it's just so satisfying. 175 00:08:23,025 --> 00:08:25,545 Speaker 2: Even as yeah, love that. I love how I showed 176 00:08:25,585 --> 00:08:27,905 Speaker 2: you how it goes, even though you use it every morning, Yes, 177 00:08:28,225 --> 00:08:28,825 Speaker 2: thank you for that. 178 00:08:29,345 --> 00:08:33,265 Speaker 1: Thank you. No love that so been using that. I 179 00:08:33,345 --> 00:08:35,545 Speaker 1: love the formula, love it because when you buy it, 180 00:08:35,865 --> 00:08:38,865 Speaker 1: you get the little powder with it, and then you've 181 00:08:38,865 --> 00:08:41,585 Speaker 1: got to mix it in to the liquid like you're. 182 00:08:41,385 --> 00:08:43,105 Speaker 2: A scientist exactly. 183 00:08:43,785 --> 00:08:48,345 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, exactly, because it's not stable or something about. 184 00:08:48,385 --> 00:08:50,585 Speaker 1: But see, this is why I need to follow proper 185 00:08:50,665 --> 00:08:53,185 Speaker 1: chemists like lab Muffin. She will explain this better than me. 186 00:08:53,785 --> 00:08:57,025 Speaker 1: But the vitamin C is like very unstable. So when 187 00:08:57,065 --> 00:08:58,785 Speaker 1: you mix it immediately you've got it. 188 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:01,505 Speaker 2: Like fresh, and then you've got it for however long 189 00:09:01,705 --> 00:09:02,385 Speaker 2: you're using it. 190 00:09:02,585 --> 00:09:04,625 Speaker 1: You know that it's not been sitting on the shelf 191 00:09:04,665 --> 00:09:07,185 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, so love that one because of that reason, 192 00:09:07,265 --> 00:09:08,585 Speaker 1: But also love drunk Elephant. 193 00:09:08,825 --> 00:09:10,785 Speaker 2: I know you try a lot of products, by the way, 194 00:09:10,825 --> 00:09:13,385 Speaker 2: so this is probably very difficult for you. It is 195 00:09:13,705 --> 00:09:15,105 Speaker 2: just like choosing your favorite child. 196 00:09:15,185 --> 00:09:17,465 Speaker 1: Here's what I love it. And I do have favorite 197 00:09:17,545 --> 00:09:19,905 Speaker 1: children out of skin care, not out of my own. 198 00:09:21,945 --> 00:09:24,785 Speaker 1: I do have favorite And then at the moment, I've 199 00:09:24,785 --> 00:09:27,305 Speaker 1: also been using because I've been doing some micro needling. 200 00:09:27,785 --> 00:09:30,865 Speaker 1: It's so fabulous. Oh my god, I've done it twice. 201 00:09:30,905 --> 00:09:34,345 Speaker 1: I swear I'm not wearing foundation like I love it. 202 00:09:34,345 --> 00:09:37,825 Speaker 1: It really helps with tone for me because I've been 203 00:09:37,825 --> 00:09:40,865 Speaker 1: doing the micro needling. I love to use an EGF 204 00:09:40,905 --> 00:09:44,705 Speaker 1: serum like the bio effect one. It's like epidermal growth factor. 205 00:09:45,505 --> 00:09:47,065 Speaker 1: It's like high tech stuff. 206 00:09:47,105 --> 00:09:49,145 Speaker 2: What does it feel like and what kind of results 207 00:09:49,145 --> 00:09:49,585 Speaker 2: do you notice? 208 00:09:49,625 --> 00:09:51,865 Speaker 1: Human? I mean it looks like a thick water and 209 00:09:51,865 --> 00:09:53,425 Speaker 1: it's in a tiny little vial. 210 00:09:53,385 --> 00:09:55,385 Speaker 2: With a dropper, like extremely small. 211 00:09:55,505 --> 00:10:00,145 Speaker 1: Yes, very concentrated, and it's high tech science from like Iceland. 212 00:10:00,305 --> 00:10:03,425 Speaker 2: The brand is from Iceland Drug. You're whispering it, yeah. 213 00:10:03,425 --> 00:10:05,105 Speaker 1: And you just did one little drop and it is 214 00:10:05,145 --> 00:10:08,105 Speaker 1: like a thick water. But it's very good for your skin, okay, 215 00:10:08,145 --> 00:10:09,065 Speaker 1: like heels. 216 00:10:08,745 --> 00:10:10,945 Speaker 2: Or something of differences. Do you know, do you notice 217 00:10:10,945 --> 00:10:13,345 Speaker 2: that your skin going healthier? 218 00:10:13,505 --> 00:10:17,785 Speaker 1: Skin? Love that, like just fantastic helps healing, like boosts 219 00:10:17,825 --> 00:10:21,345 Speaker 1: your skin's natural processes. So after the micro needling, it's 220 00:10:21,425 --> 00:10:22,785 Speaker 1: just bomb dot com so love it. 221 00:10:22,865 --> 00:10:25,585 Speaker 2: That would be especially important after that, Yeah. 222 00:10:25,305 --> 00:10:27,785 Speaker 1: And then it would normally be moisturizing, but these days 223 00:10:27,825 --> 00:10:29,745 Speaker 1: I'm just going straight into SPF because, like I said, 224 00:10:29,785 --> 00:10:31,265 Speaker 1: they got the moisturizing in it. 225 00:10:31,385 --> 00:10:34,905 Speaker 2: So because like a hydrating something, yes. 226 00:10:34,785 --> 00:10:37,425 Speaker 1: That one is yeah, yeah, so it's three in one. 227 00:10:37,505 --> 00:10:40,425 Speaker 1: So then I would do the sunscreen and I use 228 00:10:40,465 --> 00:10:43,185 Speaker 1: a lot. I swear it's like seven pumps or something 229 00:10:43,225 --> 00:10:44,785 Speaker 1: like that that I end up using bed its. Yet 230 00:10:44,785 --> 00:10:47,985 Speaker 1: teaspoon for my face is a neck blend. All that 231 00:10:48,105 --> 00:10:51,105 Speaker 1: in and then you know, wait twenty minutes then you 232 00:10:51,145 --> 00:10:54,545 Speaker 1: can leave the house. Gotta wait twenty minutes after your sunscreen. 233 00:10:54,825 --> 00:10:56,665 Speaker 2: I feel like I never do that. That's probably one 234 00:10:56,665 --> 00:10:58,345 Speaker 2: of my biggest things. I'm always rushing. 235 00:10:58,425 --> 00:11:03,985 Speaker 1: That is unaccepted behavior. I mean, yeah, well, maybe try 236 00:11:04,025 --> 00:11:05,305 Speaker 1: doing it before brushing your teeth. 237 00:11:05,385 --> 00:11:07,225 Speaker 2: That's I've got to split up my routine a little bit. 238 00:11:07,345 --> 00:11:09,505 Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit about your night routine. What 239 00:11:09,705 --> 00:11:11,305 Speaker 2: do you do here? What kind of cleanses do you 240 00:11:11,385 --> 00:11:11,985 Speaker 2: like to use? 241 00:11:12,425 --> 00:11:16,985 Speaker 1: Double cleans I use like an oily one first, so 242 00:11:16,985 --> 00:11:20,145 Speaker 1: at the moment, that would be the toucher Camellia cleansing oil. 243 00:11:20,425 --> 00:11:24,945 Speaker 1: I love. I love the luxurious packaging, the formulas are 244 00:11:24,945 --> 00:11:28,625 Speaker 1: all amazing. Absolutely love the touch a Camelia cleansing oil. 245 00:11:28,985 --> 00:11:31,825 Speaker 1: And then I've just finished it's an empty now the 246 00:11:32,105 --> 00:11:33,665 Speaker 1: fresh soy love it. 247 00:11:33,945 --> 00:11:36,545 Speaker 2: Love it. That is honestly being like such. It's such 248 00:11:36,545 --> 00:11:39,625 Speaker 2: a stepular product. Yeah, and it's like a gel formula, 249 00:11:39,705 --> 00:11:40,345 Speaker 2: right it is. 250 00:11:40,385 --> 00:11:41,785 Speaker 1: It's like a weird gel jelly. 251 00:11:41,865 --> 00:11:43,465 Speaker 2: Like is that the butcher one is. 252 00:11:46,185 --> 00:11:48,745 Speaker 1: Don't you think this out of you need too, But 253 00:11:48,785 --> 00:11:53,705 Speaker 1: it's like anyways, I use that. It's a lovely cleanser, 254 00:11:53,745 --> 00:11:55,465 Speaker 1: so double cleansed with that. I of course use my 255 00:11:55,505 --> 00:11:57,665 Speaker 1: face halo as well, like to make sure all the 256 00:11:57,705 --> 00:12:03,145 Speaker 1: makeups because okay, the science behind microfiberfore removing your make 257 00:12:03,545 --> 00:12:07,425 Speaker 1: is so good. It's like little fibers that are small 258 00:12:07,425 --> 00:12:09,945 Speaker 1: than human hair, that are like spiky but not and 259 00:12:09,985 --> 00:12:13,425 Speaker 1: they actually scoop into your pause and remove the makeup. 260 00:12:13,425 --> 00:12:15,025 Speaker 1: Like it's amazing. 261 00:12:15,145 --> 00:12:18,545 Speaker 2: I feel like when I don't use something like that, 262 00:12:18,585 --> 00:12:21,745 Speaker 2: like something to actually remove my cleanser, I'll cleanse my 263 00:12:21,825 --> 00:12:23,505 Speaker 2: face and then I'll be like, maybe I'll just try 264 00:12:23,545 --> 00:12:25,625 Speaker 2: my cellar water just to see if everything else comes off, 265 00:12:25,665 --> 00:12:28,545 Speaker 2: and there's always stuff, and I'm like, that's why you 266 00:12:28,585 --> 00:12:29,145 Speaker 2: need to like. 267 00:12:29,265 --> 00:12:31,425 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wear it too. 268 00:12:31,705 --> 00:12:32,825 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, love that. 269 00:12:33,345 --> 00:12:36,385 Speaker 1: Then I go in with a million in one serums 270 00:12:36,985 --> 00:12:37,585 Speaker 1: I love. 271 00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:39,785 Speaker 2: So what's at the top of that, I. 272 00:12:39,785 --> 00:12:42,065 Speaker 1: Mean, it really depends on the vibe of my skin 273 00:12:42,105 --> 00:12:44,985 Speaker 1: that day. Sometimes I'm dry. Sometimes I'm trying to like 274 00:12:45,345 --> 00:12:47,705 Speaker 1: not aggravate my skin after doing my micro needling, which 275 00:12:47,745 --> 00:12:49,505 Speaker 1: is like I did my micro needling like three or 276 00:12:49,505 --> 00:12:52,145 Speaker 1: four nights ago, so I'm still I mean, maybe tonight 277 00:12:52,145 --> 00:12:53,665 Speaker 1: I could use an acid if I want, but I 278 00:12:53,705 --> 00:12:56,505 Speaker 1: love a glycolic acid. I mean, I think the one 279 00:12:56,545 --> 00:12:59,745 Speaker 1: that I've been using is also drunk Elephant. But there's 280 00:12:59,785 --> 00:13:01,585 Speaker 1: a really great lung coom one that's in like an 281 00:13:01,625 --> 00:13:04,705 Speaker 1: iridescent bottle, and it's in a really pretty like mermaidy 282 00:13:04,785 --> 00:13:07,385 Speaker 1: iridescent bottle, and it's an acid and it's like it 283 00:13:07,465 --> 00:13:10,625 Speaker 1: renews your skin overnight. It's just lovely. And I love 284 00:13:10,705 --> 00:13:12,825 Speaker 1: that one. And it's like a thick clear serum, like 285 00:13:12,945 --> 00:13:15,185 Speaker 1: watery serum as well, and I just I really love 286 00:13:15,225 --> 00:13:18,865 Speaker 1: that one. I love lungcom products. Also love the Genefique. 287 00:13:18,905 --> 00:13:21,625 Speaker 1: I think that's a fantastic for anti aging. I know 288 00:13:21,665 --> 00:13:23,345 Speaker 1: you're not meant to say anti aging these days, but 289 00:13:23,345 --> 00:13:24,505 Speaker 1: it's like good pro aging. 290 00:13:24,625 --> 00:13:27,065 Speaker 2: I think that's really important. What you said just about. 291 00:13:27,345 --> 00:13:29,585 Speaker 2: I guess it goes in with the skin cycling kind 292 00:13:29,625 --> 00:13:32,425 Speaker 2: of terminology, but really kind of like assessing your skin 293 00:13:32,465 --> 00:13:35,145 Speaker 2: for what it actually needs. Y I otain it, yeah, 294 00:13:35,265 --> 00:13:37,665 Speaker 2: rather than just being like I always have to use 295 00:13:37,665 --> 00:13:40,105 Speaker 2: retinal this night, so I better, don't you know. 296 00:13:40,265 --> 00:13:44,185 Speaker 1: On that note, I love a retinal serum. But actually 297 00:13:44,185 --> 00:13:46,225 Speaker 1: I went to the derm a few months ago and 298 00:13:46,265 --> 00:13:49,345 Speaker 1: he gave me a prescription for a cream that got 299 00:13:49,385 --> 00:13:51,865 Speaker 1: made in like a pharmacy up in Queensland. They sent 300 00:13:51,865 --> 00:13:53,025 Speaker 1: it down to me. It has to be kept in 301 00:13:53,065 --> 00:13:56,945 Speaker 1: the fridge and it's got tretonoen it's got tranexomic acid 302 00:13:56,945 --> 00:14:01,425 Speaker 1: in it. So that's something that's like malasma. It's medication 303 00:14:01,505 --> 00:14:04,225 Speaker 1: for malasma. And I actually only used it a couple 304 00:14:04,185 --> 00:14:06,785 Speaker 1: of times because, yeah, I normally don't react, Like my 305 00:14:06,825 --> 00:14:09,505 Speaker 1: skin is tough as nails and normally I can put 306 00:14:09,665 --> 00:14:12,785 Speaker 1: any like retinol product on it. But the trettonohan won 307 00:14:12,905 --> 00:14:15,905 Speaker 1: it just yet f's me up really to day. Yeah, 308 00:14:15,905 --> 00:14:17,745 Speaker 1: and just so dry and I never have dry skin. 309 00:14:17,865 --> 00:14:20,545 Speaker 1: It's very oily, and so I just cannot handle it. 310 00:14:20,905 --> 00:14:22,545 Speaker 1: So I've done it a couple of times and I 311 00:14:22,625 --> 00:14:25,105 Speaker 1: like just have barely used it. But I need to 312 00:14:25,145 --> 00:14:26,105 Speaker 1: start using it again. 313 00:14:26,225 --> 00:14:29,025 Speaker 2: But I feel like it's so hard when people are like, 314 00:14:29,025 --> 00:14:30,585 Speaker 2: but you have to kind of like work. I mean 315 00:14:30,665 --> 00:14:33,865 Speaker 2: it could be an even different level with the topical medication, 316 00:14:33,945 --> 00:14:35,625 Speaker 2: but when they're like, yeah, work your way up, but 317 00:14:35,665 --> 00:14:38,425 Speaker 2: when you're like, my skin is literally rejecting this, and 318 00:14:38,465 --> 00:14:41,065 Speaker 2: I'm walking around with I don't want to take a face. 319 00:14:41,425 --> 00:14:43,705 Speaker 2: I would like to just should. 320 00:14:43,545 --> 00:14:45,625 Speaker 1: Keep using it. But I mean, my malasma is not 321 00:14:45,665 --> 00:14:47,785 Speaker 1: so bad now that I'm not nursing or anything. And 322 00:14:47,825 --> 00:14:50,305 Speaker 1: I did some really good laser treatments. 323 00:14:50,385 --> 00:14:51,465 Speaker 2: Tell me about your treatments. 324 00:14:51,905 --> 00:14:54,505 Speaker 1: I love a good treatment at the salon or the clinic. 325 00:14:54,665 --> 00:14:56,745 Speaker 1: So I got pico. Sure, okay, laser. 326 00:14:57,065 --> 00:14:59,505 Speaker 2: I have had that before, like years ago. I think 327 00:14:59,545 --> 00:15:02,025 Speaker 2: it was like eleven years ago or something. I think 328 00:15:02,105 --> 00:15:04,305 Speaker 2: Pica was just kind of like coming out. Oh yeah, 329 00:15:04,345 --> 00:15:07,665 Speaker 2: but the results are so good. I wish I did 330 00:15:07,705 --> 00:15:08,545 Speaker 2: it more consistently. 331 00:15:08,705 --> 00:15:11,825 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I of course it's very like non like. 332 00:15:11,825 --> 00:15:14,145 Speaker 1: I mean, I was a little bit red after, but minor, 333 00:15:14,225 --> 00:15:16,425 Speaker 1: and I swear after an hour it's cleared up. The 334 00:15:16,465 --> 00:15:18,585 Speaker 1: only thing is that it's like you don't really realize 335 00:15:18,585 --> 00:15:21,105 Speaker 1: it's doing anything because the effects are seen like two 336 00:15:21,225 --> 00:15:24,145 Speaker 1: or three weeks after. But I did one session and 337 00:15:24,185 --> 00:15:28,225 Speaker 1: I definitely saw a reduction in my malasma, and then 338 00:15:28,425 --> 00:15:31,705 Speaker 1: after the second treatment especially much so. And that's probably 339 00:15:31,745 --> 00:15:33,465 Speaker 1: also why I didn't feel like I needed to use 340 00:15:33,465 --> 00:15:35,945 Speaker 1: my medication as much. But I think I can actually 341 00:15:35,985 --> 00:15:39,025 Speaker 1: pat the medicated cream onto the areas, So I might 342 00:15:39,065 --> 00:15:40,745 Speaker 1: try that next because I was putting it everywhere and 343 00:15:40,825 --> 00:15:43,345 Speaker 1: just being a flaky mess and it was just not 344 00:15:43,825 --> 00:15:47,785 Speaker 1: conducive to like put it. Yeah, and so yeah, I 345 00:15:47,785 --> 00:15:49,825 Speaker 1: definitely want to get more of the Picos Shore laser. 346 00:15:50,025 --> 00:15:55,705 Speaker 2: There's other issues. Yeah, it holds redness like spider veins. 347 00:15:55,785 --> 00:15:56,265 Speaker 1: Yeah. 348 00:15:56,385 --> 00:15:57,945 Speaker 2: I remember I got it around my nose one time 349 00:15:57,985 --> 00:15:59,425 Speaker 2: because I had really bad spider veins. 350 00:15:59,465 --> 00:16:01,825 Speaker 1: Yes, it just STAPs a way that. Yeah, it's so good. 351 00:16:02,065 --> 00:16:03,625 Speaker 2: Is there anything else do you like to get done 352 00:16:03,625 --> 00:16:05,545 Speaker 2: in terms of like lasers or other treatments. 353 00:16:05,585 --> 00:16:08,625 Speaker 1: Because I just moved back from LA a year ago. 354 00:16:08,825 --> 00:16:10,105 Speaker 1: Just move back, move back. 355 00:16:10,105 --> 00:16:11,105 Speaker 2: We're so happy you're back. 356 00:16:11,225 --> 00:16:13,065 Speaker 1: But when I was there, you know, I went to 357 00:16:13,105 --> 00:16:13,825 Speaker 1: doctor Diamond. 358 00:16:14,185 --> 00:16:16,625 Speaker 2: Oh, oh my gosh, celebrity doctor. 359 00:16:16,825 --> 00:16:20,865 Speaker 1: Yes, he's done the Kardashians, he's done it, and he's expensive. 360 00:16:20,945 --> 00:16:23,345 Speaker 1: Do you want to know how much? This is ridiculous? 361 00:16:23,545 --> 00:16:26,785 Speaker 1: So I got the Diamond facial. I paid six thousand 362 00:16:26,905 --> 00:16:29,185 Speaker 1: US dollars to go and see this. Oh my god. 363 00:16:29,745 --> 00:16:30,705 Speaker 1: But I was like, you know what, I'm going to 364 00:16:30,745 --> 00:16:32,745 Speaker 1: do a video. This is like a big content piece. 365 00:16:33,145 --> 00:16:34,705 Speaker 1: I didn't know how much it was going to cost. 366 00:16:34,785 --> 00:16:36,305 Speaker 1: But I went in there and I was like, I'm 367 00:16:36,305 --> 00:16:41,545 Speaker 1: having my celebrity experience today. Six thousand dollars. I know 368 00:16:41,545 --> 00:16:43,545 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna think I'm an idiot, and yes. 369 00:16:43,825 --> 00:16:47,105 Speaker 3: You know, you can't ask sometimes ever in a position 370 00:16:47,145 --> 00:16:49,385 Speaker 3: where they're like, I didn't have a cheices going to cost, 371 00:16:49,425 --> 00:16:52,225 Speaker 3: but we're good, make sure we've transferred the money for 372 00:16:52,865 --> 00:16:53,945 Speaker 3: I was like, what. 373 00:16:54,145 --> 00:16:56,145 Speaker 1: Now going cross eyed in there? But you know what 374 00:16:56,345 --> 00:16:58,025 Speaker 1: I got the diamond facial, and what it is is 375 00:16:58,065 --> 00:17:01,105 Speaker 1: it's the plasma micro needling facial where they put your 376 00:17:01,105 --> 00:17:01,865 Speaker 1: own plasma on. 377 00:17:01,785 --> 00:17:03,825 Speaker 2: Your face, kind of like the vampire facial. 378 00:17:03,545 --> 00:17:07,265 Speaker 1: Like vampire facial, and then also the laser after, so 379 00:17:07,305 --> 00:17:10,225 Speaker 1: he does a laser after then they do like an 380 00:17:10,345 --> 00:17:13,665 Speaker 1: led mask and then the anti ring call injections. So 381 00:17:13,705 --> 00:17:16,225 Speaker 1: it was a lot, but certainly not six thousand dollars. 382 00:17:16,585 --> 00:17:17,545 Speaker 2: There's still a lot of money. 383 00:17:17,985 --> 00:17:20,625 Speaker 1: But he also left me waiting in there for yonks. God, 384 00:17:20,625 --> 00:17:21,905 Speaker 1: I was in there for a long time. I'm like, 385 00:17:21,945 --> 00:17:22,985 Speaker 1: surely they don't make him. 386 00:17:23,065 --> 00:17:27,305 Speaker 2: Dashi and wait, yeah, oh my god. But my skin 387 00:17:27,425 --> 00:17:29,385 Speaker 2: was like I can imagine for about four months it 388 00:17:29,425 --> 00:17:33,545 Speaker 2: would be amazing. So that vampire facials, like PRP treatment, 389 00:17:33,585 --> 00:17:37,825 Speaker 2: like platelet rich bakets where they take with blood, they 390 00:17:37,865 --> 00:17:41,025 Speaker 2: put in a little center of future and it splits up. 391 00:17:41,385 --> 00:17:43,465 Speaker 2: High tech gets all the good stuff out and then 392 00:17:43,505 --> 00:17:44,625 Speaker 2: they whack that on your face. 393 00:17:44,705 --> 00:17:46,665 Speaker 1: It really did a lot though. 394 00:17:46,865 --> 00:17:48,985 Speaker 2: He does so many celebrity fashions. 395 00:17:49,065 --> 00:17:52,025 Speaker 1: So I know because you know my friend I'm friends 396 00:17:52,025 --> 00:17:54,105 Speaker 1: with Haruch, who's their makeup artist. She was like, go 397 00:17:54,185 --> 00:17:56,865 Speaker 1: jop Diamond, He's amazing. So I did. I just forgot 398 00:17:56,905 --> 00:17:59,785 Speaker 1: that I don't have the wallet of a Kardashian. 399 00:18:00,345 --> 00:18:02,025 Speaker 2: You don't want to be like I will? How much 400 00:18:02,105 --> 00:18:02,265 Speaker 2: is it? 401 00:18:02,625 --> 00:18:04,465 Speaker 1: No, I don't want to be like, well, I'll leave 402 00:18:04,505 --> 00:18:15,585 Speaker 1: then because I was already in the chair. Hit You've 403 00:18:15,625 --> 00:18:18,665 Speaker 1: made one of the greatest discoveries of all time. Oh 404 00:18:18,905 --> 00:18:21,305 Speaker 1: miss never again never. 405 00:18:21,945 --> 00:18:24,905 Speaker 2: What is a skincare technique ingredient that you love and 406 00:18:24,945 --> 00:18:27,825 Speaker 2: then what's one that you hate or just can't stand. 407 00:18:28,185 --> 00:18:33,065 Speaker 1: Probably my favorite ingredient aside from SPF, is I love 408 00:18:33,105 --> 00:18:35,305 Speaker 1: an acid and my skin can handle them really well. 409 00:18:35,345 --> 00:18:38,105 Speaker 1: So I love a glycolic. It makes a big difference. 410 00:18:38,225 --> 00:18:40,665 Speaker 1: Love it and listen, I don't care what anyone says. 411 00:18:40,705 --> 00:18:42,065 Speaker 1: I love a poor strip. 412 00:18:41,985 --> 00:18:42,825 Speaker 2: A poor strip. 413 00:18:43,305 --> 00:18:45,905 Speaker 1: Come at me, bro, Come at me, bro. 414 00:18:47,105 --> 00:18:48,225 Speaker 2: What ones do you like me? 415 00:18:48,905 --> 00:18:51,145 Speaker 1: I mean I love a bure poor strip. There's also 416 00:18:51,225 --> 00:18:54,025 Speaker 1: those ones from Amazon that is the land banner one. 417 00:18:54,225 --> 00:18:56,985 Speaker 2: Is it the satisfaction of like immediate. 418 00:18:56,745 --> 00:18:59,985 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that, But also I just firmly disagree that 419 00:18:59,985 --> 00:19:02,585 Speaker 1: it's made my paws big eye. I mean, all the 420 00:19:02,625 --> 00:19:06,585 Speaker 1: domes are like you, fucking no, like you idiot. It 421 00:19:06,625 --> 00:19:08,425 Speaker 1: works for you, it works. And then I put like 422 00:19:08,465 --> 00:19:11,265 Speaker 1: my bha on aft and then you know, mix that 423 00:19:11,345 --> 00:19:14,185 Speaker 1: in with my face masks and mud masks and all 424 00:19:14,185 --> 00:19:16,625 Speaker 1: the other stuff that I do, and I swear it helps. 425 00:19:16,705 --> 00:19:18,105 Speaker 2: If it works for you, it works for you. 426 00:19:18,185 --> 00:19:20,465 Speaker 1: And actually some terms these days say that you can 427 00:19:20,545 --> 00:19:21,465 Speaker 1: do them like once a month. 428 00:19:21,545 --> 00:19:23,945 Speaker 2: I feel like it just depends on your actual skin 429 00:19:24,065 --> 00:19:27,065 Speaker 2: type as well, So like if you've got really sensitive skin, 430 00:19:27,305 --> 00:19:29,745 Speaker 2: my skin like me, I used to do them, rip 431 00:19:29,825 --> 00:19:31,385 Speaker 2: that ship off and then just have like a red 432 00:19:31,425 --> 00:19:32,065 Speaker 2: mark on my day. 433 00:19:32,345 --> 00:19:38,465 Speaker 1: I don't fast and furious, mine off. I delicately withdraw, delicately, withdraw, 434 00:19:38,705 --> 00:19:39,905 Speaker 1: delicately delicately. 435 00:19:40,265 --> 00:19:42,345 Speaker 2: Okay, I love how controversial that one is. 436 00:19:42,425 --> 00:19:44,665 Speaker 1: That is so controversial. 437 00:19:44,985 --> 00:19:47,545 Speaker 2: What about when it comes to like what you hate 438 00:19:47,625 --> 00:19:49,385 Speaker 2: or what you disagree with or don't like. 439 00:19:49,665 --> 00:19:51,305 Speaker 1: What people hating on poor strips. 440 00:19:51,345 --> 00:19:54,585 Speaker 2: I love that. Okay, that's amazing. Maybe should I get 441 00:19:54,585 --> 00:19:58,545 Speaker 2: back into poor strips skins like hate exactly? 442 00:19:58,585 --> 00:20:00,465 Speaker 1: You need to stay away, Chloe. 443 00:20:00,865 --> 00:20:01,745 Speaker 2: You've been amazing. 444 00:20:01,945 --> 00:20:02,985 Speaker 1: It's not over. It's over. 445 00:20:03,065 --> 00:20:03,345 Speaker 2: I don't know. 446 00:20:05,865 --> 00:20:06,665 Speaker 1: I want more. 447 00:20:07,105 --> 00:20:09,425 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us on the show today, though. 448 00:20:09,985 --> 00:20:14,105 Speaker 2: Are such a legend and icon, and I'm so happy 449 00:20:14,225 --> 00:20:16,305 Speaker 2: that you came out how to chat. 450 00:20:16,345 --> 00:20:19,745 Speaker 1: Thank you so far, so much, so fun. I've always 451 00:20:19,785 --> 00:20:21,465 Speaker 1: wanted to I love listening to you guys, so I'm 452 00:20:21,545 --> 00:20:22,985 Speaker 1: so pumped. Thank you for having me. 453 00:20:23,865 --> 00:20:25,985 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this episode of 454 00:20:26,025 --> 00:20:27,865 Speaker 2: You Beauty. And if you want to sign up for 455 00:20:27,905 --> 00:20:31,265 Speaker 2: our beauty newsletter, you should definitely do that. 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