1 00:00:11,189 --> 00:00:15,389 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mom and Maya 2 00:00:15,429 --> 00:00:18,669 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this 3 00:00:18,749 --> 00:00:23,229 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on. Hello. Jennifer Ghana, you might have heard, 4 00:00:23,229 --> 00:00:26,389 Speaker 1: has been in the headlines quite a lot lately just 5 00:00:26,429 --> 00:00:30,349 Speaker 1: for living her life. The news stories have been quite silly, 6 00:00:30,389 --> 00:00:32,789 Speaker 1: which is our favorite type of news story. Yes, they're 7 00:00:32,789 --> 00:00:36,309 Speaker 1: things like Jennifer Ghana is glowing as she enjoys breakfast 8 00:00:36,429 --> 00:00:40,429 Speaker 1: with ex Ben Affleck, or Ben Affleck loves being looked 9 00:00:40,429 --> 00:00:43,549 Speaker 1: after by Jennifer Ghana a mid divorce with Jennifer Lopez. 10 00:00:43,589 --> 00:00:46,029 Speaker 1: I've seen something that's like Ben Affleck, where every look 11 00:00:46,069 --> 00:00:48,909 Speaker 1: says a Jennifer, you can't escape them. And another headline 12 00:00:48,909 --> 00:00:51,029 Speaker 1: I've seen is Ben Affleck and Jennifer Gana are seen 13 00:00:51,109 --> 00:00:54,229 Speaker 1: driving together in La after reuniting for Thanksgiving. It's like 14 00:00:54,269 --> 00:00:57,509 Speaker 1: they co parent. They do me they do. That's probably 15 00:00:57,589 --> 00:01:00,309 Speaker 1: so they are going to be entwined in each other's lives. 16 00:01:01,029 --> 00:01:04,149 Speaker 1: We thought we would reshare our deep dive on Jennifer 17 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:06,709 Speaker 1: Ghana because there are some actual controversies and of course 18 00:01:06,709 --> 00:01:11,389 Speaker 1: some silly stuff like a fantastic award winning didn't win 19 00:01:11,429 --> 00:01:16,229 Speaker 1: any awards, Sir Lumma film called Suddenly thirty. Enjoy this 20 00:01:16,309 --> 00:01:18,829 Speaker 1: episode and we will be back in your feed on 21 00:01:18,909 --> 00:01:31,509 Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. Hello, and welcome to Cancel, the podcast that 22 00:01:31,549 --> 00:01:35,029 Speaker 1: looks at silly celebrity crimes and assigns charges and sentences 23 00:01:35,029 --> 00:01:37,349 Speaker 1: to them so we can all move on with our lives. 24 00:01:37,509 --> 00:01:40,509 Speaker 1: I'm Klaire Stevens and I'm joined by Jesse Stevens and 25 00:01:40,589 --> 00:01:42,629 Speaker 1: Jesse do you have a lazy girl story for us? 26 00:01:42,789 --> 00:01:45,069 Speaker 1: I do. I have one which I feel like is 27 00:01:45,069 --> 00:01:47,749 Speaker 1: going to be particularly relatable to both of us. It 28 00:01:47,829 --> 00:01:50,829 Speaker 1: is from Claire. Oh, but not you, it hasn't I. 29 00:01:52,029 --> 00:01:55,069 Speaker 1: My wedding dress was very fancy, with hand beating all 30 00:01:55,069 --> 00:01:57,669 Speaker 1: over in a big train. At the end of the reception, 31 00:01:57,789 --> 00:01:59,429 Speaker 1: I finally had time for something to eat, and I 32 00:01:59,469 --> 00:02:03,269 Speaker 1: scoffed a few chocolate tarts, inadvertently dripping quite a bit 33 00:02:03,309 --> 00:02:05,589 Speaker 1: of ganesh down the bodice of my dress. Because I'm 34 00:02:05,629 --> 00:02:07,789 Speaker 1: a messy girl as well as a lazy girl. Bad 35 00:02:07,829 --> 00:02:10,509 Speaker 1: Combo tried to wipe up the mess with an napkin. 36 00:02:10,709 --> 00:02:13,109 Speaker 1: Bad idea. Chocolate now spread over a large portion of 37 00:02:13,109 --> 00:02:16,389 Speaker 1: bodice and embedded in beadwork and lace. Very bad. When 38 00:02:16,429 --> 00:02:18,909 Speaker 1: I returned from my honeymoon. I thought about getting the 39 00:02:18,949 --> 00:02:23,229 Speaker 1: dress dry cleaned, quoted as three hundred and fifty dollars ridiculous. 40 00:02:23,429 --> 00:02:25,069 Speaker 1: I thought I would just wash it in my bath 41 00:02:25,069 --> 00:02:27,869 Speaker 1: tub with some sad wonder soap as a friend had done. 42 00:02:28,069 --> 00:02:30,509 Speaker 1: Has turned out okay. I never got around to it, 43 00:02:30,549 --> 00:02:32,749 Speaker 1: and the wedding dress is still hanging in its bag 44 00:02:32,829 --> 00:02:36,549 Speaker 1: in my wardrobe. This year is my twentieth wedding adiventsy. 45 00:02:37,149 --> 00:02:39,269 Speaker 1: I refuse to throw out the dress, as I might 46 00:02:39,509 --> 00:02:42,109 Speaker 1: still get around to it one day. She's a lazy girl. 47 00:02:42,509 --> 00:02:44,709 Speaker 1: Oh wow, how long did it take you to dry 48 00:02:44,709 --> 00:02:47,069 Speaker 1: clean your dress? Very long time? And my dress was 49 00:02:47,149 --> 00:02:51,069 Speaker 1: just in my boot. An amount of women with their 50 00:02:51,069 --> 00:02:53,949 Speaker 1: wedding dress and their boot still Oh you got married 51 00:02:53,949 --> 00:02:56,829 Speaker 1: five weeks ago. Oh your children have left home. Oh 52 00:02:56,909 --> 00:02:58,869 Speaker 1: I know where your wedding dress is crumpled in the boot. 53 00:02:59,149 --> 00:03:05,309 Speaker 1: If you are a robber listening, yes, rob cars, rob 54 00:03:05,349 --> 00:03:07,669 Speaker 1: cut no, because then a rubber would rob a car. 55 00:03:08,029 --> 00:03:10,869 Speaker 1: Take the dress and be like, get it dry clean 56 00:03:11,029 --> 00:03:13,629 Speaker 1: before I sell it. This might be a you know, 57 00:03:13,869 --> 00:03:16,509 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars this dress is worth. It's only going 58 00:03:16,549 --> 00:03:18,429 Speaker 1: to take a few hundred to dry clean it. You 59 00:03:18,469 --> 00:03:20,349 Speaker 1: do make a profit, but there's a job involved. There 60 00:03:20,389 --> 00:03:22,789 Speaker 1: is a job involved, and the job of smelling men 61 00:03:23,189 --> 00:03:25,389 Speaker 1: low because you know I sent my address to Norway. 62 00:03:25,949 --> 00:03:28,789 Speaker 1: You did you sold your dress? Okay, here's something we've 63 00:03:28,829 --> 00:03:30,589 Speaker 1: never talked about. I put mine up, being like anyone 64 00:03:30,669 --> 00:03:33,749 Speaker 1: want to buy no bites? Shit? Well mine only had 65 00:03:33,789 --> 00:03:36,229 Speaker 1: the one bite and she was in Norway? Okay? Was 66 00:03:36,269 --> 00:03:38,709 Speaker 1: I offended? Yeah? You think you're gonna put you wedding 67 00:03:38,749 --> 00:03:40,229 Speaker 1: dress up and everyone's going to go, this is the 68 00:03:40,269 --> 00:03:42,149 Speaker 1: most beautiful wedding dress ever. I want to look like 69 00:03:42,189 --> 00:03:48,309 Speaker 1: this on my day and everyone's everyone's like, oh nah, 70 00:03:48,389 --> 00:03:52,589 Speaker 1: I think it's daky cool. I'll have a sitting in 71 00:03:52,589 --> 00:03:56,269 Speaker 1: my wardrobe. I would really like the cash. The issue 72 00:03:56,309 --> 00:03:59,629 Speaker 1: with the job of dry cleaning it is an issue 73 00:03:59,669 --> 00:04:03,149 Speaker 1: of deadline because there's no deadline. There is no deadline. 74 00:04:03,189 --> 00:04:05,309 Speaker 1: It's just my to do list has about four or 75 00:04:05,309 --> 00:04:09,349 Speaker 1: five jobs of which they're just not to a clear deadline. 76 00:04:09,349 --> 00:04:11,549 Speaker 1: So it's like, why would I do that today when 77 00:04:11,589 --> 00:04:13,989 Speaker 1: I could do it tomorrow? Will you do it tomorrow? No? 78 00:04:14,069 --> 00:04:16,389 Speaker 1: Because why would I do that tomorrow when I could 79 00:04:16,429 --> 00:04:20,509 Speaker 1: do it later? And so life goes and then what 80 00:04:20,549 --> 00:04:23,669 Speaker 1: you've done is you die and you've left someone the 81 00:04:23,789 --> 00:04:26,749 Speaker 1: job of cleaning your wedding dress, and that person goes, 82 00:04:26,789 --> 00:04:29,989 Speaker 1: why did today when I could do it later? And 83 00:04:30,229 --> 00:04:33,189 Speaker 1: so no, no, what do we hand down through the 84 00:04:33,229 --> 00:04:37,269 Speaker 1: family at gin Nash covered wedding dress so lovely? 85 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:45,589 Speaker 2: You are about to enter the canceled courtroom. The defendants 86 00:04:45,669 --> 00:04:51,949 Speaker 2: are celebrities, the chargers are petty, the rulings are final. 87 00:04:53,789 --> 00:04:58,229 Speaker 1: Jesse. Today we're talking about Jennifer Ghana. Hi, I'm jen 88 00:04:58,389 --> 00:04:59,309 Speaker 1: Jennifer Garner. 89 00:04:59,549 --> 00:05:03,509 Speaker 3: I just watched this down below kissing, and I just 90 00:05:03,509 --> 00:05:04,669 Speaker 3: floated home in a cloud. 91 00:05:04,909 --> 00:05:10,629 Speaker 1: Please welcome Jennifer Garner. Jennifer and Ghana is an American 92 00:05:10,669 --> 00:05:13,389 Speaker 1: actress who you probably know from her roles in TV 93 00:05:13,469 --> 00:05:16,869 Speaker 1: shows like A Liz and movies like Suddenly, Thirty Juno, 94 00:05:17,229 --> 00:05:22,029 Speaker 1: Ghosts of Girlfriend's Past, Valentine's Day, Daredevil, Dallas Fires Club 95 00:05:22,189 --> 00:05:25,029 Speaker 1: and so on. How many Jennifers have we done? Okay, 96 00:05:25,149 --> 00:05:30,109 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez, Jennifer Lawrence, Jennifer Anist, Jennifer Aniston. For all 97 00:05:30,149 --> 00:05:32,869 Speaker 1: the famous Jennifers, do you know many in your life? Nah? 98 00:05:33,069 --> 00:05:36,229 Speaker 1: I don't. I think it's a generational thing. I think 99 00:05:36,229 --> 00:05:39,989 Speaker 1: it's a disproportionate amount of Jennifers that's become famous. Mary 100 00:05:39,989 --> 00:05:45,389 Speaker 1: ben affleck care I said it great point, Jesse, what 101 00:05:45,629 --> 00:05:48,949 Speaker 1: is your favorite Jennifer Garner movie? And or role? Was 102 00:05:48,989 --> 00:05:52,149 Speaker 1: she in Pearl Harbor? We have discussed but minor role, 103 00:05:52,429 --> 00:05:55,229 Speaker 1: minor role, minor role, But I did like that. I'm 104 00:05:55,229 --> 00:05:58,309 Speaker 1: gonna say something unpopular. I didn't mind. Suddenly thirty, Jenna 105 00:05:58,389 --> 00:06:03,229 Speaker 1: Rink couldn't grow up fast enough, so on her thirteenth birthday, 106 00:06:03,949 --> 00:06:07,509 Speaker 1: Jeffers out the wishing dust. She only made one wish 107 00:06:07,869 --> 00:06:11,549 Speaker 1: eighteen thirteen. I just want to be But I struggle 108 00:06:12,229 --> 00:06:16,989 Speaker 1: with getting my head around magic in a film. Yeah, 109 00:06:17,109 --> 00:06:19,109 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to go in order to keep watching 110 00:06:19,149 --> 00:06:21,669 Speaker 1: this like Freaky Friday, in order to keep watching this, 111 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:25,629 Speaker 1: I have to I have to suspend my belief of 112 00:06:25,629 --> 00:06:29,749 Speaker 1: how the world works, because this isn't possible what's happening. 113 00:06:29,869 --> 00:06:31,989 Speaker 1: But I've got to be invested in you, in your feelings. 114 00:06:32,109 --> 00:06:34,749 Speaker 1: It feels like a plot device. But you've either had 115 00:06:35,229 --> 00:06:38,989 Speaker 1: a psychotic break in which case that's a plot point, 116 00:06:39,909 --> 00:06:42,589 Speaker 1: or you're gonna wake up it with all the dream 117 00:06:42,629 --> 00:06:45,389 Speaker 1: which is deeply unsatisfying. Or I've just got to play 118 00:06:45,389 --> 00:06:47,509 Speaker 1: this game. I don't know if I can play this game. 119 00:06:48,069 --> 00:06:50,949 Speaker 1: It's not real. So I don't know about that film. Okay, 120 00:06:51,189 --> 00:06:54,269 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about that film. But my favorite Jennifer 121 00:06:54,269 --> 00:06:58,709 Speaker 1: Ghana role where I think she just really was herself, 122 00:07:00,069 --> 00:07:01,509 Speaker 1: like this is who I believe hard to beat. It 123 00:07:01,629 --> 00:07:02,789 Speaker 1: was her role in Juno. 124 00:07:03,389 --> 00:07:07,509 Speaker 2: Hi Brings You to them All Today. 125 00:07:07,829 --> 00:07:10,389 Speaker 1: I was just shocking, you know, it's my girlfriend. I 126 00:07:10,429 --> 00:07:15,429 Speaker 1: thought she played that so well. Is an excellent film. 127 00:07:15,469 --> 00:07:19,589 Speaker 1: It is that I want to watch again, and I think, yeah, 128 00:07:19,669 --> 00:07:23,589 Speaker 1: Jennifer Garner in it was just so believable. A note 129 00:07:23,629 --> 00:07:26,669 Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day, Yeah, she was in it, along with 130 00:07:26,789 --> 00:07:33,149 Speaker 1: literally everyone else Jesse simply everyone, simply everyone. There's also 131 00:07:33,189 --> 00:07:36,269 Speaker 1: a movie called Mother's Day, celebrate the one day no 132 00:07:36,269 --> 00:07:39,669 Speaker 1: matter what's happened between us here always my mother that 133 00:07:39,829 --> 00:07:43,109 Speaker 1: connects us off or not. Who the world thinks. 134 00:07:42,829 --> 00:07:44,989 Speaker 3: Wire Mother's Day? 135 00:07:45,509 --> 00:07:49,949 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, people in that Julia Roberts, Oh gee, lots 136 00:07:49,989 --> 00:07:53,709 Speaker 1: of people. Julia Roberts with a terrible haircut. Okay, because 137 00:07:53,789 --> 00:07:56,389 Speaker 1: the other film, just like Valentine's Day in terms of 138 00:07:56,429 --> 00:07:58,549 Speaker 1: everyone being in it was of course, he's just not 139 00:07:58,629 --> 00:08:01,989 Speaker 1: that into and new Year's Eve and news eve that 140 00:08:02,109 --> 00:08:03,749 Speaker 1: was we went through a stage where I was in 141 00:08:03,749 --> 00:08:05,429 Speaker 1: a film and you know what, it was based on 142 00:08:05,709 --> 00:08:08,349 Speaker 1: Love act Love actually Because on that, they were like, 143 00:08:08,469 --> 00:08:11,149 Speaker 1: imagine a film where you just have heaps of famous 144 00:08:11,149 --> 00:08:13,709 Speaker 1: actors on the poster. Yeah, that isn't what made Love 145 00:08:13,749 --> 00:08:16,989 Speaker 1: actually great. It was a great film, absolutely, And then 146 00:08:17,149 --> 00:08:18,749 Speaker 1: the Americans were like, we can do it. We've got 147 00:08:18,789 --> 00:08:21,429 Speaker 1: twelve actors. Well, why don't you sit and write a 148 00:08:21,429 --> 00:08:23,949 Speaker 1: script for a minute, Why don't you write a good 149 00:08:23,949 --> 00:08:28,309 Speaker 1: script because Valentine's Day, it doesn't work. They got a 150 00:08:28,309 --> 00:08:29,789 Speaker 1: bot to do it. They got a bot to do it, 151 00:08:29,909 --> 00:08:32,309 Speaker 1: and it showed tonight. The chef is featuring a dish 152 00:08:32,349 --> 00:08:35,549 Speaker 1: that he likes to call the lime Stinking Pig. Also 153 00:08:35,589 --> 00:08:39,109 Speaker 1: a note, Jennifer Ghana was married to Ben Affleck between 154 00:08:39,109 --> 00:08:42,749 Speaker 1: two thousand and five and twenty eighteen, long time and 155 00:08:42,789 --> 00:08:46,229 Speaker 1: they have three kids together. And there are currently rumors 156 00:08:46,869 --> 00:08:49,909 Speaker 1: you would know that Ben Affleck and j Lo are 157 00:08:49,949 --> 00:08:52,989 Speaker 1: on the rocks. Yeah, I believe it, And yeah, the 158 00:08:52,989 --> 00:08:56,749 Speaker 1: theory is that Jennifer Ghana has been speaking to Jennifer 159 00:08:56,789 --> 00:09:01,629 Speaker 1: Lopez and like helping her through this and is also 160 00:09:01,669 --> 00:09:06,389 Speaker 1: speaking to Ben and encouraging Ben to stay with Jen 161 00:09:07,589 --> 00:09:11,629 Speaker 1: because Jen, she's such a Marri counsel, is very good 162 00:09:11,869 --> 00:09:14,629 Speaker 1: for Ben. Jenny is good for Ben and she supported 163 00:09:14,709 --> 00:09:19,669 Speaker 1: him through addictions. Jen lo Pez is good for Oh. 164 00:09:19,829 --> 00:09:21,749 Speaker 1: I think Jen Garna good for Ben too. Yeah, she 165 00:09:21,829 --> 00:09:24,709 Speaker 1: says Ben, you need Jen, and he says, which Jen. 166 00:09:25,349 --> 00:09:29,909 Speaker 1: She says Jen you're currently married to? Just for logistical purposes, 167 00:09:29,989 --> 00:09:33,469 Speaker 1: the one you're that that gen also for context. She 168 00:09:33,589 --> 00:09:37,549 Speaker 1: does a lot of gardening on tiktop hell squash. There 169 00:09:37,629 --> 00:09:40,189 Speaker 1: is not your neck. I've been waiting for the sunflower 170 00:09:40,269 --> 00:09:44,109 Speaker 1: seeds to be ready. Cash. She's popping up very hash. 171 00:09:44,269 --> 00:09:46,749 Speaker 1: Couldn't be less like j Loo. And I don't mean 172 00:09:46,829 --> 00:09:48,949 Speaker 1: that as a slide, No, I just mean that as 173 00:09:49,349 --> 00:09:52,069 Speaker 1: she's in a different place, whereas j Loo's like, this 174 00:09:52,269 --> 00:09:57,949 Speaker 1: is me now on the met Gala carpet. Yeah, where's Ben, Jen, 175 00:09:58,589 --> 00:10:02,189 Speaker 1: where's my Ben? You're Ben? He was my Ben. I'm 176 00:10:02,189 --> 00:10:05,589 Speaker 1: a different gen bed go back to Jen, which gen 177 00:10:05,949 --> 00:10:11,109 Speaker 1: et cetera. Yeah, it is. My structure for today is 178 00:10:11,109 --> 00:10:14,669 Speaker 1: as follows, an awkward call out, a late night interview, 179 00:10:15,549 --> 00:10:18,909 Speaker 1: an uncomfortable question. I love the ambiguity of all somebody 180 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:22,549 Speaker 1: two and suddenly thirty okay, good an awkward call out. 181 00:10:22,989 --> 00:10:26,549 Speaker 1: It's two thousand and three. Jennifer Ganna is starring in Alias, 182 00:10:26,709 --> 00:10:31,309 Speaker 1: and she's very, very famous. Jesse, could you ever watch Alias? 183 00:10:31,869 --> 00:10:34,989 Speaker 1: I didn't, but there were girls at school who really 184 00:10:35,029 --> 00:10:36,349 Speaker 1: liked it, and I kind of put it in the 185 00:10:36,429 --> 00:10:40,549 Speaker 1: Buffy camp. You were an Alias personal? You were an 186 00:10:40,589 --> 00:10:43,589 Speaker 1: Alias person? Was she a spy? Yes? It sounds like 187 00:10:43,589 --> 00:10:46,389 Speaker 1: I would have liked that. I know, I know, I 188 00:10:46,429 --> 00:10:48,309 Speaker 1: feel like do I feel like she was a magic spy? 189 00:10:48,869 --> 00:10:50,549 Speaker 1: I feel like there was something in it that I 190 00:10:50,589 --> 00:10:54,109 Speaker 1: just couldn't fully get around. Yeah, I watched it. No, 191 00:10:54,149 --> 00:10:57,229 Speaker 1: I never watched it, but I never watched Buffy either. No. 192 00:10:57,669 --> 00:11:00,909 Speaker 1: So she was doing the rounds because as well as 193 00:11:00,949 --> 00:11:05,149 Speaker 1: promoting Alias, she was promoting her new movie Daredevil, which 194 00:11:05,229 --> 00:11:07,989 Speaker 1: Ben Affleck was also in, and so she was on 195 00:11:08,309 --> 00:11:13,109 Speaker 1: Conan O'Brien. He her if during Alias she used any 196 00:11:13,189 --> 00:11:16,149 Speaker 1: spy skills she learnt from the show in real life, 197 00:11:16,709 --> 00:11:19,509 Speaker 1: and she tells a story about how they kept the 198 00:11:19,629 --> 00:11:23,109 Speaker 1: show's twists from her, like the scripts ahead of time. 199 00:11:23,349 --> 00:11:25,069 Speaker 1: They don't want you to know writer's room, and it's 200 00:11:25,149 --> 00:11:28,829 Speaker 1: completely closed off, particularly to actors, particularly to me. So 201 00:11:28,869 --> 00:11:30,749 Speaker 1: she went into the writer's room and read all the 202 00:11:30,829 --> 00:11:33,229 Speaker 1: notes about what was to come, and she used spy 203 00:11:33,309 --> 00:11:35,629 Speaker 1: skills to get into the writer's room. That was the great. Sorry, 204 00:11:36,109 --> 00:11:39,509 Speaker 1: But as she's telling the story, Conan O'Brien says, well, 205 00:11:39,549 --> 00:11:41,149 Speaker 1: there's a time when you snuck into the room. And 206 00:11:41,189 --> 00:11:43,589 Speaker 1: she says, snuck isn't a word. Conan and you and 207 00:11:43,629 --> 00:11:46,509 Speaker 1: to Harvard, and you should know that that's funny. The 208 00:11:46,589 --> 00:11:50,749 Speaker 1: audience cheers, collaps, she finishes the story. Then, after the 209 00:11:50,789 --> 00:11:54,589 Speaker 1: ad break, ConA O'Brien returns holding a dictionary. He points 210 00:11:54,629 --> 00:11:57,389 Speaker 1: out that snuck is a word. It is the past 211 00:11:57,389 --> 00:12:02,229 Speaker 1: tense of sneak. According to Miriam Webster, the original past 212 00:12:02,309 --> 00:12:05,949 Speaker 1: tense of sneak was sneaked, following the pattern of other 213 00:12:05,989 --> 00:12:09,629 Speaker 1: regular verbs. However, snuck began to be used as an 214 00:12:09,669 --> 00:12:13,389 Speaker 1: alternative past tense form in the eighteen hundreds and is 215 00:12:13,429 --> 00:12:16,789 Speaker 1: now very common. Would you say snuck or sneaked, I'd 216 00:12:16,789 --> 00:12:19,869 Speaker 1: say snuck. I'd say snuck, But I will say it's 217 00:12:19,989 --> 00:12:23,029 Speaker 1: very a white man, I think it's she corrected him 218 00:12:23,069 --> 00:12:25,749 Speaker 1: in the first place. Yeah, but where'd you get a dictionary? Like? 219 00:12:26,069 --> 00:12:28,069 Speaker 1: Apparently one of the writers run it down during the 220 00:12:28,069 --> 00:12:32,469 Speaker 1: ad break. He does it very well because he points 221 00:12:32,509 --> 00:12:35,349 Speaker 1: it out. She does a bit of like an awkward face, 222 00:12:35,429 --> 00:12:38,149 Speaker 1: and then he does like a cackle like villain laugh, 223 00:12:38,349 --> 00:12:46,989 Speaker 1: knuck past and pass part of sneak. It's not mean 224 00:12:47,029 --> 00:12:49,349 Speaker 1: to her the way he does it. It's like expert, 225 00:12:49,989 --> 00:12:52,149 Speaker 1: Oh how he does it? Okay, all right, all right, 226 00:12:52,469 --> 00:12:58,149 Speaker 1: So she looks awkward, like purposely performatively awkward. And this 227 00:12:58,269 --> 00:13:02,109 Speaker 1: clip has done the rounds on TikTok and YouTube and 228 00:13:02,309 --> 00:13:05,389 Speaker 1: a lot of people comment saying she didn't even apologize. 229 00:13:05,429 --> 00:13:08,109 Speaker 1: She didn't even admit she was wrong, and it's like, 230 00:13:08,229 --> 00:13:09,829 Speaker 1: I think it was meant to be funny. It's a 231 00:13:09,869 --> 00:13:14,709 Speaker 1: talk show. She's acting awkward. It's humor. I will say, 232 00:13:15,549 --> 00:13:18,429 Speaker 1: I don't enjoy being corrected on my past tense in 233 00:13:18,469 --> 00:13:21,549 Speaker 1: a social setting. I don't. And that's what people are saying. 234 00:13:21,549 --> 00:13:24,629 Speaker 1: They like, she tried to correct him and she was wrong. 235 00:13:24,949 --> 00:13:26,869 Speaker 1: I mean, it was obviously a public interview, and she 236 00:13:26,989 --> 00:13:28,949 Speaker 1: was quite funny bring up a Harvard thing. But like 237 00:13:28,989 --> 00:13:32,429 Speaker 1: I have been in conversations and people like it's Luca 238 00:13:32,589 --> 00:13:35,549 Speaker 1: and I oh, and I'm like, okay, me and Luke 239 00:13:35,669 --> 00:13:38,229 Speaker 1: went to the zoo yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what 240 00:13:38,269 --> 00:13:41,549 Speaker 1: I are you my English teacher. I don't like it exactly, 241 00:13:41,669 --> 00:13:44,309 Speaker 1: so yeah, people do get riled up about that, think 242 00:13:44,349 --> 00:13:47,909 Speaker 1: that she's a bit of a princess, But I say 243 00:13:48,109 --> 00:13:51,229 Speaker 1: it's an interesting little back and forth and just a 244 00:13:51,309 --> 00:13:56,589 Speaker 1: silly interview. Moving on a late night interview. During the 245 00:13:56,629 --> 00:14:01,989 Speaker 1: same interview, she told a story that has gone viral 246 00:14:02,029 --> 00:14:05,549 Speaker 1: for all the wrong reasons. Speaking about Daredevil, she shared 247 00:14:05,589 --> 00:14:09,189 Speaker 1: an anecdote about how her co star Colin Farrell got 248 00:14:09,269 --> 00:14:11,749 Speaker 1: a bit too aggressive in a scene where they were 249 00:14:11,749 --> 00:14:14,029 Speaker 1: supposed to be kissing and she ended up with a 250 00:14:14,069 --> 00:14:17,549 Speaker 1: swollen lip. The next day, he was biting her lip, 251 00:14:17,589 --> 00:14:19,189 Speaker 1: and she goes on to tell this old story. Was 252 00:14:19,189 --> 00:14:22,949 Speaker 1: she saying it lightheartedly? Yes, okay. She then joked that 253 00:14:23,229 --> 00:14:25,269 Speaker 1: by the end of shooting the scene, Parah was treating 254 00:14:25,269 --> 00:14:27,109 Speaker 1: her lip like a meal and pulling it out and 255 00:14:27,149 --> 00:14:29,229 Speaker 1: putting ketchup on it like a joke about how much 256 00:14:29,229 --> 00:14:32,229 Speaker 1: he was just eating her bottom lip. She says that 257 00:14:32,589 --> 00:14:34,509 Speaker 1: she woke up the next morning and she walks into 258 00:14:34,549 --> 00:14:37,589 Speaker 1: the living room and her husband at the time, Scott 259 00:14:37,989 --> 00:14:40,909 Speaker 1: who she left and ended up with Ben Afflick, was 260 00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:45,989 Speaker 1: sitting there in shock. And she says that her lip 261 00:14:46,189 --> 00:14:48,869 Speaker 1: looked like one of those African women with a plate 262 00:14:48,909 --> 00:14:52,829 Speaker 1: in their mouths. Oh no, okay. This was two thousand 263 00:14:52,909 --> 00:14:55,229 Speaker 1: and three, all right, all right, two thousand and three, 264 00:14:55,269 --> 00:14:58,429 Speaker 1: And what has happened is people have taken this interview, 265 00:14:59,029 --> 00:15:02,269 Speaker 1: resurfaced it, put it everywhere. You wouldn't say it now, 266 00:15:02,549 --> 00:15:05,149 Speaker 1: you wouldn't say it now. I understand why it's offensive, 267 00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:08,389 Speaker 1: because it's saying like, my injury and me when I've 268 00:15:08,869 --> 00:15:11,869 Speaker 1: hurt myself is the same with cultural practice. Yeah, yeah, 269 00:15:11,909 --> 00:15:14,749 Speaker 1: it's quite degrading to the cultural practice. I totally get that, 270 00:15:15,069 --> 00:15:18,709 Speaker 1: but I also see the context and also knowing how 271 00:15:18,709 --> 00:15:21,389 Speaker 1: those interviews are conducted, like that story would have been 272 00:15:21,429 --> 00:15:23,869 Speaker 1: designed by a PR team, and she's just kind of 273 00:15:24,269 --> 00:15:26,669 Speaker 1: delivering on it, and it looks a lot worse being 274 00:15:26,709 --> 00:15:29,069 Speaker 1: thrust into our context than it might have. Do you 275 00:15:29,109 --> 00:15:32,549 Speaker 1: know at the time, if it got any backlash? No, yeah, no, no, 276 00:15:32,549 --> 00:15:34,309 Speaker 1: no backlash in two thousand and three. And I think 277 00:15:34,309 --> 00:15:37,869 Speaker 1: that's also because people weren't online, people just watching things 278 00:15:37,869 --> 00:15:41,109 Speaker 1: on a late night show, seeing a comment, maybe thinking 279 00:15:41,629 --> 00:15:44,469 Speaker 1: and they're moving on. Yeah, So it kind of got 280 00:15:44,509 --> 00:15:51,669 Speaker 1: resurfaced and made into a very intentional significant thing, and 281 00:15:51,949 --> 00:15:55,509 Speaker 1: has then been combined with a few other things that 282 00:15:55,629 --> 00:15:59,549 Speaker 1: she said, Okay, moving on to an uncomfortable question. The 283 00:15:59,629 --> 00:16:03,709 Speaker 1: other problematic moment that has been resurfaced comes from a 284 00:16:03,949 --> 00:16:08,109 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen chat show. During an episode of comedian Chelsea 285 00:16:08,149 --> 00:16:12,309 Speaker 1: Handler's Netflix talk show, there are a bunch of celebrities 286 00:16:12,309 --> 00:16:15,749 Speaker 1: sitting around at a dinner party, and Handler says, let's 287 00:16:15,749 --> 00:16:18,909 Speaker 1: talk about our families first, where we came from, where 288 00:16:18,949 --> 00:16:22,389 Speaker 1: our parents came from. Actor Regina King, who is black, 289 00:16:22,789 --> 00:16:25,029 Speaker 1: tells a group that she's from LA, and she starts 290 00:16:25,029 --> 00:16:27,229 Speaker 1: talking about how so many people live there. Oh, I 291 00:16:27,229 --> 00:16:29,749 Speaker 1: think I've seen this, yes, but not that many people 292 00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:32,709 Speaker 1: actually grew up in LA. And she's saying, one of. 293 00:16:32,749 --> 00:16:35,189 Speaker 3: The few people that are born and bred in LA. 294 00:16:35,389 --> 00:16:37,549 Speaker 3: So that's I think, a very cool thing. And I 295 00:16:37,629 --> 00:16:39,909 Speaker 3: kind of wear it on my chest very proudly because 296 00:16:39,909 --> 00:16:42,989 Speaker 3: so many people say, oh, Las is in La? 297 00:16:43,109 --> 00:16:43,269 Speaker 2: Is it? 298 00:16:43,629 --> 00:16:46,509 Speaker 1: And she talks about how it's interesting being the only 299 00:16:46,549 --> 00:16:49,269 Speaker 1: person who's able to kind of truly say what is 300 00:16:49,309 --> 00:16:52,389 Speaker 1: and isn't La because she had her childhood there. Sitting 301 00:16:52,469 --> 00:16:55,149 Speaker 1: across the table from her, Ghana asks, but do you 302 00:16:55,229 --> 00:16:57,909 Speaker 1: know where your ancestors are from King says. 303 00:16:58,229 --> 00:17:01,949 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we're part of the triangle slavery from sier 304 00:17:01,949 --> 00:17:06,309 Speaker 3: early on, Liberia and Sitegal but my pears are both 305 00:17:06,349 --> 00:17:08,109 Speaker 3: from the South met each other here. 306 00:17:08,469 --> 00:17:12,829 Speaker 1: People got really angry about this, and it was originally 307 00:17:12,829 --> 00:17:16,829 Speaker 1: tweeted with the caption, oh I see why Ben left 308 00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:21,829 Speaker 1: her ass about Jennifer Garner. Okay, as though Ben Affleck 309 00:17:21,869 --> 00:17:26,229 Speaker 1: who got married in a plantation, it was just so 310 00:17:26,389 --> 00:17:29,229 Speaker 1: much fun. It was the best life is the gold 311 00:17:29,309 --> 00:17:32,509 Speaker 1: standard when it comes to conversations about race. Yeah, there's 312 00:17:32,549 --> 00:17:36,069 Speaker 1: been lots of analysis about her facial expression and her 313 00:17:36,229 --> 00:17:41,389 Speaker 1: ignorance in this really really short clip. And I completely 314 00:17:41,469 --> 00:17:44,789 Speaker 1: appreciate that it may have been an insensitive or inappropriate question, 315 00:17:45,749 --> 00:17:49,029 Speaker 1: but we don't have all the context. It's edited. We're 316 00:17:49,069 --> 00:17:52,269 Speaker 1: not seeing a natural conversation. Something I want to point 317 00:17:52,269 --> 00:17:57,109 Speaker 1: out is that Regina King hasn't said anything. Regina King 318 00:17:57,149 --> 00:18:00,389 Speaker 1: hasn't come out. I said, sometimes you can use these clips, though, 319 00:18:00,429 --> 00:18:02,229 Speaker 1: if you're a person of color, you might be using 320 00:18:02,269 --> 00:18:08,149 Speaker 1: this clip to illustrate how uncomfortable that question is and 321 00:18:08,149 --> 00:18:10,709 Speaker 1: how it is asked more of some peace people than 322 00:18:10,869 --> 00:18:13,589 Speaker 1: of others. Because if Jennifer Ganna, for example, had said 323 00:18:13,669 --> 00:18:16,389 Speaker 1: I'm from New York, or I'm from New Jersey or whatever. 324 00:18:17,069 --> 00:18:19,989 Speaker 1: No one at the table would have said, yeah, but 325 00:18:20,029 --> 00:18:22,309 Speaker 1: where are your ancestors from? Why? Because she's white, and 326 00:18:22,349 --> 00:18:28,149 Speaker 1: because you associate whiteness with being American, which is inherently racist. Like, 327 00:18:28,189 --> 00:18:31,909 Speaker 1: I do understand the commentary, and I don't think that 328 00:18:31,989 --> 00:18:36,229 Speaker 1: Jennifer Gannah's subjectivity as a white woman in that context 329 00:18:36,509 --> 00:18:39,149 Speaker 1: makes it look good. I'm sure that she would regret 330 00:18:39,229 --> 00:18:41,029 Speaker 1: the way that came across. I think it's an interesting 331 00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:45,309 Speaker 1: example because it really may have been that it was inappropriate, 332 00:18:45,829 --> 00:18:49,389 Speaker 1: But the context is interesting because some people pointed out 333 00:18:49,389 --> 00:18:51,589 Speaker 1: that her question made a lot more sense in the 334 00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:56,109 Speaker 1: overall context of the show, which was titled My American Experience, 335 00:18:56,349 --> 00:19:00,589 Speaker 1: where the guests were encouraged to discuss their roots, patriotism, religion, 336 00:19:00,669 --> 00:19:03,709 Speaker 1: and modern America's complexities, and they were asked how their 337 00:19:03,749 --> 00:19:06,229 Speaker 1: parents got to America. So she felt like she had 338 00:19:06,229 --> 00:19:09,429 Speaker 1: a license yeah to ask that. YEA, Yeah, that's interesting 339 00:19:09,509 --> 00:19:12,509 Speaker 1: and it was a part of the broader conversation. Then again, 340 00:19:12,629 --> 00:19:15,509 Speaker 1: I do think sometimes it's okay to use an example 341 00:19:15,509 --> 00:19:19,469 Speaker 1: of something and analyze it to straight a point yeah, yeah, 342 00:19:19,509 --> 00:19:21,149 Speaker 1: And I think that's what a lot of people were doing, 343 00:19:21,269 --> 00:19:23,429 Speaker 1: saying this is my experience that people ask me this 344 00:19:23,509 --> 00:19:26,429 Speaker 1: question and it's frigging inappropriate, and you wouldn't ask it 345 00:19:26,829 --> 00:19:29,109 Speaker 1: the way around. So I think that's also fair. I 346 00:19:29,229 --> 00:19:32,429 Speaker 1: also think it's worth acknowledging that the question doesn't mean 347 00:19:32,429 --> 00:19:35,829 Speaker 1: the same thing to everyone. Yeah, so people asking me 348 00:19:36,589 --> 00:19:40,509 Speaker 1: where are your parents from? Where your ancestors from doesn't 349 00:19:40,549 --> 00:19:43,749 Speaker 1: have the kind of emotional salience that may for somebody else. 350 00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:54,469 Speaker 1: Jesse Suddenly thirty like your shoes? 351 00:19:55,109 --> 00:19:55,789 Speaker 3: Thanks? 352 00:19:56,189 --> 00:19:59,069 Speaker 1: I like your dress because they've got these incredible boobs 353 00:19:59,069 --> 00:20:02,709 Speaker 1: to fill it out. Suddenly thirty, for reasons unknown, is 354 00:20:02,749 --> 00:20:06,709 Speaker 1: called thirteen going on thirty in the US. Actually, it 355 00:20:06,829 --> 00:20:09,869 Speaker 1: made me slightly intrigued, so I googled it. The movie 356 00:20:10,309 --> 00:20:14,269 Speaker 1: is called thirteen going on thirty in almost every place. 357 00:20:14,309 --> 00:20:17,189 Speaker 1: Why did we call it suddenly thirty here? It makes 358 00:20:17,229 --> 00:20:20,989 Speaker 1: it difficult to have conversations with Americans. Yes, it's thirteen 359 00:20:21,069 --> 00:20:23,789 Speaker 1: going on thirty, I'm pretty sure everywhere except Australia. Why 360 00:20:24,189 --> 00:20:30,029 Speaker 1: because distributors thought Australians wouldn't understand Oh no, the concept 361 00:20:30,269 --> 00:20:33,909 Speaker 1: slash phrase of thirteen going on thirty. They thought we 362 00:20:33,909 --> 00:20:34,589 Speaker 1: wouldn't get that. 363 00:20:34,829 --> 00:20:38,989 Speaker 2: Australians have proven we can understand phrases. 364 00:20:38,749 --> 00:20:42,269 Speaker 1: So they were like, suddenly, thirty, I'm modified, Okay, that's 365 00:20:42,309 --> 00:20:45,229 Speaker 1: a phrase though, Yeah, thirteen going on? I mean, and 366 00:20:45,269 --> 00:20:47,829 Speaker 1: this is the thing. It's like, oh, don't get me wrong. 367 00:20:48,429 --> 00:20:51,509 Speaker 1: I still don't fully understand the premise. Maybe it's an 368 00:20:51,509 --> 00:20:54,189 Speaker 1: Australian thing. Maybe everyone else in the world is like, oh, 369 00:20:54,269 --> 00:20:58,669 Speaker 1: it totally makes sense. I think it's unrealistic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 370 00:20:58,829 --> 00:21:01,509 Speaker 1: but it's not the title. No, it's like they think 371 00:21:01,549 --> 00:21:04,709 Speaker 1: we don't say going on, But like I listened to 372 00:21:04,709 --> 00:21:06,589 Speaker 1: the Sound of Music soundtrack a lot, and it's like, 373 00:21:06,749 --> 00:21:11,589 Speaker 1: I am sixteen going on seventeen. That's fine, I understand it. 374 00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:14,709 Speaker 1: I can read between the line. It means you're sixteen 375 00:21:14,789 --> 00:21:17,029 Speaker 1: and soon you will be seventeen, whereas the title of 376 00:21:17,069 --> 00:21:19,469 Speaker 1: this movie means you're thirteen and oh my gosh, soon 377 00:21:19,509 --> 00:21:23,589 Speaker 1: you will be thirty because of magic. Yes, now there 378 00:21:23,629 --> 00:21:26,109 Speaker 1: are other movies where this has happened as well. You 379 00:21:26,189 --> 00:21:29,549 Speaker 1: know one of our favorite films, Bad Neighbors. Yes, yes, 380 00:21:29,709 --> 00:21:30,309 Speaker 1: what are you doing? 381 00:21:30,629 --> 00:21:32,429 Speaker 2: We're throwing a Robert de Niro party. 382 00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:36,149 Speaker 1: Should be pretty fucking loud. It's probably gonna go pretty 383 00:21:36,189 --> 00:21:39,349 Speaker 1: fucking late too. It was just called neighbors. That is 384 00:21:39,509 --> 00:21:45,749 Speaker 1: American in America. She is confusing because I'm not going 385 00:21:45,749 --> 00:21:48,749 Speaker 1: to the movies to watch neighbors. Okay, that's on the TV. 386 00:21:49,189 --> 00:21:52,229 Speaker 1: It's like, was it bad neighbors here to avoid confusion 387 00:21:52,269 --> 00:21:55,709 Speaker 1: with neighbors? Or was it bad neighbors here because they're 388 00:21:55,749 --> 00:21:59,709 Speaker 1: like Australians won't understand they're bad. Yeah, yeah, I'll think 389 00:21:59,749 --> 00:22:03,589 Speaker 1: this is just normal neighbors. They've got to really really 390 00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:06,389 Speaker 1: make things clear for them. These neighbors are bad because 391 00:22:06,429 --> 00:22:09,309 Speaker 1: they're disruptive and they're partying or is in Australia that's 392 00:22:09,349 --> 00:22:12,549 Speaker 1: just a neighby. You don't know me, Yeah, you don't 393 00:22:12,589 --> 00:22:15,389 Speaker 1: know my neighbors. Anyway. It's very very odd and it's 394 00:22:15,429 --> 00:22:19,309 Speaker 1: quite embarrassing that Australia needed a different title. AnyWho, that's 395 00:22:19,349 --> 00:22:22,069 Speaker 1: not why we're here. We're here because Jennifer Gannah stars 396 00:22:22,109 --> 00:22:24,829 Speaker 1: in it. It's arguably her most famous role and there's 397 00:22:24,869 --> 00:22:26,229 Speaker 1: a lot of feelings for about I don't like that 398 00:22:26,229 --> 00:22:27,949 Speaker 1: scene where she did the dance. I didn't like it. 399 00:22:27,869 --> 00:22:30,789 Speaker 1: It made me uncomfortable. Well, I'll get to that. Mark 400 00:22:30,829 --> 00:22:33,469 Speaker 1: Ruffalo's in it. He's hot man Mark Ruffalo more like 401 00:22:33,589 --> 00:22:36,669 Speaker 1: Mark Buffalo. Sometimes you forget that Mark Ruffalo's in it, 402 00:22:36,909 --> 00:22:40,309 Speaker 1: and he's very sexy. For those who haven't seen it, 403 00:22:40,389 --> 00:22:44,269 Speaker 1: Suddenly thirty, it's a romantic comedy and Mark Ruffalo plays 404 00:22:44,309 --> 00:22:46,829 Speaker 1: love interest Matty. Wh's the thing is? Everyone's seen it? 405 00:22:47,269 --> 00:22:49,389 Speaker 1: Find me a person hasn't seen it. But some people 406 00:22:49,429 --> 00:22:52,669 Speaker 1: forget the details all right. A nerdy thirteen year old 407 00:22:52,869 --> 00:22:56,069 Speaker 1: named Jenna desperately wants to be popular, so she gets 408 00:22:56,109 --> 00:22:58,269 Speaker 1: the popular group to come to her thirteenth birthday by 409 00:22:58,309 --> 00:23:02,269 Speaker 1: doing their homework. Her best friend and extra neighbor, Matty, 410 00:23:02,869 --> 00:23:05,749 Speaker 1: has made a doll house for her with his bare hands, 411 00:23:06,029 --> 00:23:09,909 Speaker 1: and he sprinkles the roof with magic wishing dust. I 412 00:23:10,269 --> 00:23:12,269 Speaker 1: think you're a little bit old for a doll's house 413 00:23:12,269 --> 00:23:14,829 Speaker 1: at thirteen. I think you are two. And I think 414 00:23:14,829 --> 00:23:17,389 Speaker 1: that for the audience who was watching this, Like I 415 00:23:17,469 --> 00:23:19,589 Speaker 1: was a teenager when I watched it, and I was like, look, 416 00:23:19,629 --> 00:23:23,629 Speaker 1: two years ago, I believed in magic. Does third moved on? 417 00:23:24,069 --> 00:23:27,349 Speaker 1: I've moved on? I was, you know, still ten, believing 418 00:23:27,389 --> 00:23:28,869 Speaker 1: that my dolls talk to each other when I left 419 00:23:28,909 --> 00:23:32,389 Speaker 1: the room, like absolutely, I'll play that game. As an adolescent, 420 00:23:33,149 --> 00:23:36,109 Speaker 1: it's been quite beaten out of me. And it's like, 421 00:23:36,189 --> 00:23:38,869 Speaker 1: at thirteen, clearly this girl is feeling some things in 422 00:23:38,869 --> 00:23:40,509 Speaker 1: her pants because she wants to hook up with this 423 00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:43,389 Speaker 1: hot guy. And then you've got this boy next door 424 00:23:43,549 --> 00:23:45,429 Speaker 1: giving you a doll's house, and you're like, well, that's 425 00:23:45,469 --> 00:23:48,909 Speaker 1: a big social obligation to act really amazed by your 426 00:23:48,989 --> 00:23:51,309 Speaker 1: doll's house, when really, I think you spent a lot 427 00:23:51,349 --> 00:23:53,549 Speaker 1: of time on that. I actually think that's way too 428 00:23:53,589 --> 00:23:56,749 Speaker 1: full on. It's way too full on. It's I don't 429 00:23:56,789 --> 00:23:59,269 Speaker 1: care about dolls anymore. You don't know me. I didn't 430 00:23:59,309 --> 00:24:02,029 Speaker 1: want that gift. There's something very past aggressive about going 431 00:24:02,029 --> 00:24:04,709 Speaker 1: over the top with a gift. Yeah. The popular girls 432 00:24:04,829 --> 00:24:08,149 Speaker 1: arrive with a group of boys, including Jenna's crush Chris, 433 00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:11,229 Speaker 1: and trick Jenna into believing he's going to kiss her 434 00:24:11,389 --> 00:24:15,589 Speaker 1: in a closet while they leave with the complete homework. 435 00:24:16,349 --> 00:24:20,549 Speaker 1: That's right. When she discovers what's happened, she gets upset 436 00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:24,349 Speaker 1: and she says, I want to be thirty, thirty and 437 00:24:24,389 --> 00:24:28,309 Speaker 1: flirty and thriving. Would you ever have used those words 438 00:24:28,349 --> 00:24:31,429 Speaker 1: when you're thirteen. I just want to be thirty, flirty 439 00:24:31,469 --> 00:24:37,589 Speaker 1: and thriving. I thought many an instagram all thirtieth birthdays. 440 00:24:38,109 --> 00:24:42,709 Speaker 1: I think at thirteen, I thought thirty was geriatric. Oh yes, 441 00:24:42,829 --> 00:24:46,189 Speaker 1: thirty wasn't fun. Thirty No, no, no, no no. I won't 442 00:24:46,189 --> 00:24:49,109 Speaker 1: have two working days. I'll how to hit replacement. I'll 443 00:24:49,149 --> 00:24:53,229 Speaker 1: be boring, ugly, but I will have carcies and unlimited 444 00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:58,589 Speaker 1: access to McDonald's, which are true, like get McDonald's today. 445 00:24:58,749 --> 00:25:03,269 Speaker 1: I want to be personally. I never forget. I never 446 00:25:03,549 --> 00:25:05,309 Speaker 1: Sometimes I forget, and then I think, you're an adult. 447 00:25:05,349 --> 00:25:06,789 Speaker 1: You can get McDonald a few times a day. I 448 00:25:06,869 --> 00:25:08,709 Speaker 1: think I can go buy a packet of Lolly's, and 449 00:25:08,749 --> 00:25:11,869 Speaker 1: I do, and I I think too many. That's why 450 00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:15,189 Speaker 1: I feel sick. That's me, my mum. Yeah. Now the 451 00:25:15,229 --> 00:25:18,509 Speaker 1: magic wishing dust falls on her. The following morning, she 452 00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:22,269 Speaker 1: wakes up in an amazing New York apartment, and she's thirty, 453 00:25:22,629 --> 00:25:26,189 Speaker 1: thirty and thriving. She's dating a man she doesn't recognize 454 00:25:26,229 --> 00:25:29,269 Speaker 1: and has no memory of the last seventeen years. It 455 00:25:29,309 --> 00:25:31,829 Speaker 1: turns out she's now best friends with the popular girl 456 00:25:31,829 --> 00:25:34,189 Speaker 1: who is mean to her on her thirteenth birthday, and 457 00:25:34,229 --> 00:25:38,309 Speaker 1: they're both editors at Poise magazine. Oh Jesse here are 458 00:25:38,309 --> 00:25:42,109 Speaker 1: some of the ways people find suddenly thirty problematic. Now 459 00:25:42,469 --> 00:25:44,189 Speaker 1: I want to laugh about this, but I also want 460 00:25:44,229 --> 00:25:47,469 Speaker 1: to point out I have massively contributed to this culture 461 00:25:47,549 --> 00:25:52,789 Speaker 1: of overwifing things and tearing them apart. It's fun, it's fun, 462 00:25:53,429 --> 00:25:55,869 Speaker 1: but it is also silly. This is what the Internet 463 00:25:55,949 --> 00:26:00,149 Speaker 1: has said. Why didn't anyone express serious concern when Jenna 464 00:26:00,309 --> 00:26:03,549 Speaker 1: just woke up one day and didn't remember anything from 465 00:26:03,549 --> 00:26:06,109 Speaker 1: the age of thirteen? Should she have gone to hospital? 466 00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:09,069 Speaker 1: I would have taken you to hospital if I acted 467 00:26:09,109 --> 00:26:11,589 Speaker 1: like a thirteen year old didn't recognize we've both had 468 00:26:11,589 --> 00:26:16,389 Speaker 1: concussions relatively recently recently, and if those symptoms had started 469 00:26:16,389 --> 00:26:18,949 Speaker 1: bubbling to the surface, I'd say, yeah, it's time for 470 00:26:18,989 --> 00:26:23,789 Speaker 1: brain scain. Yeah. She wakes up the morning and she screams, 471 00:26:23,869 --> 00:26:31,629 Speaker 1: she shrieks at her partner. She generally like a bit 472 00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:33,749 Speaker 1: of an idiot. So her friends are like, Oh, this 473 00:26:33,829 --> 00:26:37,429 Speaker 1: is just Jenner, normal, normal Jenna bag. Yeah, she hangs 474 00:26:37,469 --> 00:26:40,229 Speaker 1: out with other thirteen year olds because she's a thirteen 475 00:26:40,309 --> 00:26:43,349 Speaker 1: year old in her soul. But do you think grown 476 00:26:43,429 --> 00:26:46,349 Speaker 1: ups would have thought that was weird? Imagine so I 477 00:26:46,389 --> 00:26:48,029 Speaker 1: turn up to work today and I'm like, Hey, I 478 00:26:48,069 --> 00:26:52,189 Speaker 1: don't remember anything post thirteen. Yeah. Also, here's my friend, 479 00:26:52,629 --> 00:26:55,069 Speaker 1: she's thirteen. Yeah, I want to play in a doll's house. 480 00:26:55,229 --> 00:26:58,189 Speaker 1: We're having a sleepover. Yeah, I don't want you sleeping 481 00:26:58,229 --> 00:27:01,309 Speaker 1: in the Yeah, my daughters. Yeah. Yeah. So she has 482 00:27:01,309 --> 00:27:03,469 Speaker 1: a sleepover with a thirteen year old who lives in 483 00:27:03,509 --> 00:27:06,229 Speaker 1: her building, and all her friends and people have said, 484 00:27:06,909 --> 00:27:11,229 Speaker 1: should we be normalized year old having a sleep over 485 00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:13,149 Speaker 1: with thirteen yeards? And to that I say, I don't 486 00:27:13,149 --> 00:27:15,509 Speaker 1: know if we are normalizing. If it's just a mover. 487 00:27:16,469 --> 00:27:19,269 Speaker 1: This is the point before I go any further that 488 00:27:19,389 --> 00:27:22,109 Speaker 1: I will point out it is simply just a move, 489 00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:25,989 Speaker 1: and it is made up for purposes of fun and 490 00:27:26,029 --> 00:27:30,429 Speaker 1: for laughing, because the other criticism is that it's creepy 491 00:27:30,949 --> 00:27:35,829 Speaker 1: that Mark Ruffalo's character kisses her when he knows she's 492 00:27:35,869 --> 00:27:40,109 Speaker 1: really thirteen in her mind. Yeah, you get own here. 493 00:27:42,709 --> 00:27:44,749 Speaker 3: It's never quite got that reaction before. 494 00:27:45,349 --> 00:27:49,189 Speaker 1: Ah, And it's like, hm, yes, predatory. But should we 495 00:27:49,189 --> 00:27:51,309 Speaker 1: get hung up on it being creepy in that it's 496 00:27:51,349 --> 00:27:55,589 Speaker 1: a scenario that doesn't really have any parallel to real life, 497 00:27:55,789 --> 00:28:00,189 Speaker 1: in that it involves magic. What do you think do 498 00:28:00,269 --> 00:28:02,789 Speaker 1: you think it's creepy. I hear what they're saying, because 499 00:28:03,189 --> 00:28:05,909 Speaker 1: you know, we are familiar with courtrooms. And if there's 500 00:28:05,949 --> 00:28:09,909 Speaker 1: a situation where someone says I'm a subject to magic dust, 501 00:28:10,949 --> 00:28:13,389 Speaker 1: I went from thirteen to thirty, but I wasn't mentally thirty. 502 00:28:13,429 --> 00:28:16,829 Speaker 1: I was mentally thirteen because of aforementioned math magic dust. 503 00:28:17,189 --> 00:28:18,869 Speaker 1: Then I think you've got to know how to prosecute it. 504 00:28:18,909 --> 00:28:21,749 Speaker 1: So we need to have these ethical conversations because where 505 00:28:21,789 --> 00:28:23,909 Speaker 1: do we land in her body? Yes, she is thirty, 506 00:28:24,349 --> 00:28:26,309 Speaker 1: but in her mind. I think it's a fun chat. 507 00:28:26,429 --> 00:28:29,989 Speaker 1: It's an ethical conundrum, Jesse. As you touched on before, 508 00:28:30,469 --> 00:28:34,709 Speaker 1: when you think about the dancers that everyone knows, do 509 00:28:34,909 --> 00:28:41,189 Speaker 1: Thriller just Thriller come to mine? Yeah? You know every 510 00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:45,429 Speaker 1: move to Thriller. Oh okay, if I was to think 511 00:28:45,469 --> 00:28:47,749 Speaker 1: I would at the Nutbush, You'll probably be mine. But 512 00:28:47,749 --> 00:28:49,949 Speaker 1: I think the nuppush is only an Australian thing. But 513 00:28:50,229 --> 00:28:52,829 Speaker 1: they should have adjusted it for Australian audiences and just 514 00:28:52,829 --> 00:29:01,309 Speaker 1: done the nutthood, nutfoot all the area. That's it, Jesse. 515 00:29:01,749 --> 00:29:04,589 Speaker 1: This is a work party where she's like, we're gonna dance. 516 00:29:04,629 --> 00:29:06,309 Speaker 1: It's really I don't know, No, I'm gonna argue with 517 00:29:06,309 --> 00:29:10,749 Speaker 1: you on this, idiot, you idiot. The whole thing is 518 00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:13,389 Speaker 1: that it was their childhood, you know how every Yeah, 519 00:29:13,549 --> 00:29:17,269 Speaker 1: but I know people of that generation and Thriller, they 520 00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:26,709 Speaker 1: still don't know what Soldier Boy Soldier Boy. Okay, we 521 00:29:26,749 --> 00:29:31,669 Speaker 1: need to redo it from memory? How we need to 522 00:29:31,749 --> 00:29:35,069 Speaker 1: make that song Soldier Boy. Speaking of problematic, there was 523 00:29:35,109 --> 00:29:39,229 Speaker 1: something about white women doing Soldier Boy on stage at 524 00:29:39,229 --> 00:29:43,469 Speaker 1: that high school that probably felt we felt that felt weird. 525 00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:51,069 Speaker 1: Then I think, I think is it that not everybody 526 00:29:51,429 --> 00:29:54,269 Speaker 1: knew Thriller? Or is it that I'm just not that 527 00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:57,989 Speaker 1: connected with the culture, because, for example, everyone in our 528 00:29:58,029 --> 00:30:00,989 Speaker 1: generation could do Soldier Boy. I can't do Soldier Boy. 529 00:30:01,109 --> 00:30:04,149 Speaker 1: I know the basic moves because my body is going 530 00:30:04,189 --> 00:30:07,909 Speaker 1: in the opposite direction. Plan. That's what I'll say about. Okay, 531 00:30:07,949 --> 00:30:10,829 Speaker 1: I'm doing a lit bit now, Okay, yeah, yes, Well, 532 00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:12,869 Speaker 1: if there was a remake, you just do sold boys. 533 00:30:12,869 --> 00:30:16,149 Speaker 1: I have a question anybody who is the exact same 534 00:30:16,229 --> 00:30:19,789 Speaker 1: age as Jenna in that pilema, which is very close 535 00:30:19,829 --> 00:30:24,549 Speaker 1: to Jennifer Garner's age, which is about fifty yep, do 536 00:30:24,589 --> 00:30:27,269 Speaker 1: you know all the moves to Thriller, not just the 537 00:30:27,309 --> 00:30:31,109 Speaker 1: general vibe. Do you know it in that you could 538 00:30:31,109 --> 00:30:35,749 Speaker 1: perform its semi professionally. Here's the other thing, though, the 539 00:30:35,789 --> 00:30:39,789 Speaker 1: person that you're asking has years in years of memories 540 00:30:39,829 --> 00:30:43,189 Speaker 1: in the way thriller. No, no, I know that, But 541 00:30:43,349 --> 00:30:46,989 Speaker 1: so do the people in the movie, because everyone in 542 00:30:46,989 --> 00:30:50,749 Speaker 1: the room can do I'm not questioning that, Jenna, No, 543 00:30:50,829 --> 00:30:55,549 Speaker 1: they're not. They all know it, and they're doing a thing. Okay. 544 00:30:55,629 --> 00:30:57,869 Speaker 1: I think what we should do is find a fifty 545 00:30:57,909 --> 00:31:00,349 Speaker 1: year year old like, go and speak to our boss 546 00:31:00,389 --> 00:31:02,429 Speaker 1: mayor yeah, Holly, and say, can you do the thriller 547 00:31:02,669 --> 00:31:07,949 Speaker 1: the whole thing, the whole thing immediately? Yeah, good point. Investigation. Now, 548 00:31:08,109 --> 00:31:10,229 Speaker 1: at the end of the movie, she comes up with 549 00:31:10,269 --> 00:31:14,309 Speaker 1: an innovative idea to save the magazine. This innovative idea 550 00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:18,189 Speaker 1: is as follows. She stages a high school yearbook photo 551 00:31:18,309 --> 00:31:22,349 Speaker 1: with non famous people like my best friend's sister and 552 00:31:22,829 --> 00:31:26,469 Speaker 1: your next door neighbor, and it's like, why would I 553 00:31:26,509 --> 00:31:28,789 Speaker 1: buy a magazine with no one I know? Want to'll 554 00:31:28,829 --> 00:31:31,229 Speaker 1: look at strangers pretending to be in high school that 555 00:31:31,309 --> 00:31:34,269 Speaker 1: are ordinary. That's not a thing. It's not a good pitch, 556 00:31:34,429 --> 00:31:37,669 Speaker 1: which brings us to the worst pitch that you and 557 00:31:37,709 --> 00:31:42,229 Speaker 1: I often talk about. So with work often, like you 558 00:31:42,309 --> 00:31:45,509 Speaker 1: need to come up with ideas for brands, and we 559 00:31:45,709 --> 00:31:50,149 Speaker 1: have a visceral distaste for one idea. You see it everywhere. 560 00:31:50,189 --> 00:31:52,309 Speaker 1: Every brand comes up with it, Every brand comes up 561 00:31:52,309 --> 00:31:55,629 Speaker 1: with it. Everything it's original. They think it's powerful, and 562 00:31:56,269 --> 00:31:58,949 Speaker 1: even though it's worthy, no one cares. No one. I'm 563 00:31:59,029 --> 00:32:02,309 Speaker 1: so sorry, No one cares? What is it? Every day here? 564 00:32:02,829 --> 00:32:08,789 Speaker 1: Everyday heroes? Local heroes, local hero You know what local 565 00:32:08,829 --> 00:32:12,189 Speaker 1: heroes make the world? What it is so important to 566 00:32:12,229 --> 00:32:18,669 Speaker 1: a community? Will they get people to click? Unfortunately, if 567 00:32:18,709 --> 00:32:20,829 Speaker 1: I said to you, I want to tell you about 568 00:32:20,829 --> 00:32:26,469 Speaker 1: a local hero, you tune out. So sounds great, tell Danny, 569 00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:29,989 Speaker 1: I say, well done. Yeah, but it's just not. If 570 00:32:29,989 --> 00:32:32,069 Speaker 1: the world cared more about local heroes, I have no 571 00:32:32,109 --> 00:32:34,109 Speaker 1: doubt we'd live in a better place, Like the world 572 00:32:34,149 --> 00:32:35,989 Speaker 1: would be a better place. They just don't. The thing 573 00:32:35,989 --> 00:32:37,709 Speaker 1: I'd like to point out, we have actually been in 574 00:32:37,749 --> 00:32:40,869 Speaker 1: a situation writing a TV show where part of the 575 00:32:40,909 --> 00:32:44,389 Speaker 1: plot is she has a big idea. I've never found 576 00:32:44,429 --> 00:32:47,029 Speaker 1: anything harder because it's got to be it's got to 577 00:32:47,069 --> 00:32:49,109 Speaker 1: be a good idea, it's got to make sense to everyone, 578 00:32:49,189 --> 00:32:51,589 Speaker 1: and it's going to work within the world. Yeah, and 579 00:32:51,629 --> 00:32:54,229 Speaker 1: it's really hard and you think, well, can it just 580 00:32:54,229 --> 00:32:56,389 Speaker 1: be a shit idea that we put nice music under? 581 00:32:56,509 --> 00:32:56,589 Speaker 2: No? 582 00:32:57,949 --> 00:33:01,389 Speaker 1: Can, no, No, It's got to be quite a good idea. 583 00:33:01,389 --> 00:33:03,509 Speaker 1: And it's like, well, if I had a million dollar idea, 584 00:33:03,749 --> 00:33:06,789 Speaker 1: would be giving it to you. I'd be selling it 585 00:33:06,829 --> 00:33:10,709 Speaker 1: for one million dollars. But in this film, they failed 586 00:33:10,749 --> 00:33:12,349 Speaker 1: to come up with a good idea. They came up 587 00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:15,829 Speaker 1: with a bad idea. Beautiful music, beautiful facial reacity. We're 588 00:33:15,829 --> 00:33:19,949 Speaker 1: not convinced. Who are these women? I want to see 589 00:33:20,949 --> 00:33:26,389 Speaker 1: my best friend's big sister and the girls from the 590 00:33:26,429 --> 00:33:29,869 Speaker 1: soccer team. Now. This is taken from an article online 591 00:33:29,869 --> 00:33:33,069 Speaker 1: that sums up the absurdity of looking at a fictional 592 00:33:33,149 --> 00:33:35,869 Speaker 1: movie and getting mad about the ply kat Okay. This 593 00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:39,309 Speaker 1: says At one point, Jennifer Ganna is told that a 594 00:33:39,349 --> 00:33:42,109 Speaker 1: man at a restaurant is checking her out. Rather than 595 00:33:42,109 --> 00:33:44,829 Speaker 1: going over to flirt with him, she asks out a 596 00:33:44,909 --> 00:33:47,909 Speaker 1: thirteen year old boy at the table, I actually came 597 00:33:47,949 --> 00:33:51,429 Speaker 1: over here because I think you're really cute. So do 598 00:33:51,469 --> 00:33:52,389 Speaker 1: you want to go out? Sometimes? 599 00:33:53,229 --> 00:33:53,429 Speaker 3: Yeah? 600 00:33:54,909 --> 00:33:57,149 Speaker 1: Now? Do you want a good at jail? It is 601 00:33:57,229 --> 00:34:00,669 Speaker 1: clearly supposed to be a joke, but also extremely disturbing, 602 00:34:01,149 --> 00:34:03,589 Speaker 1: But then it also would have been very disturbing if 603 00:34:03,589 --> 00:34:06,229 Speaker 1: this child mind in an adult body had hooked up 604 00:34:06,229 --> 00:34:08,509 Speaker 1: with an adult man. I guess they're supposed to be 605 00:34:08,549 --> 00:34:11,789 Speaker 1: a loophole because these children have adult bodies. But if 606 00:34:11,789 --> 00:34:14,309 Speaker 1: you meet someone who keeps insisting they are a child 607 00:34:14,349 --> 00:34:18,109 Speaker 1: and an adult body, maybe do not unhesitatingly have sex 608 00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:20,749 Speaker 1: with them. You need to touch grass, You need to go 609 00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:23,309 Speaker 1: touch grass. Take a deep breath and look at the 610 00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:28,669 Speaker 1: sun again. Again, there is magic involved. Again, it is 611 00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:32,349 Speaker 1: just a story. It is okay, it is just fine. 612 00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:35,549 Speaker 1: But I think that scene where she's in a restaurant 613 00:34:35,869 --> 00:34:38,109 Speaker 1: and they say someone's checking you out and she goes 614 00:34:38,189 --> 00:34:40,229 Speaker 1: up to the thirteen year old boy and flirt, that's 615 00:34:40,629 --> 00:34:42,949 Speaker 1: hilarious act. And I think it's actually clever because it's 616 00:34:42,949 --> 00:34:46,469 Speaker 1: a gender reversal, because it's a woman going up to 617 00:34:46,469 --> 00:34:47,789 Speaker 1: a thirteen year old boy. And you know why it's 618 00:34:47,789 --> 00:34:52,069 Speaker 1: funny because that would never happen. That's why it's funny. 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Okay, Jesse, 657 00:37:18,669 --> 00:37:23,869 Speaker 1: my chart. I have a cup. Firstly comments aging badly, 658 00:37:24,149 --> 00:37:26,669 Speaker 1: and actually, when I say aging badly, the one on 659 00:37:26,709 --> 00:37:29,509 Speaker 1: the Chelsea Handler show was not that long ago, so 660 00:37:29,629 --> 00:37:34,269 Speaker 1: maybe does some bad comment? Yeah, they just want no 661 00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:37,789 Speaker 1: my sentence to that is. I think she needs to 662 00:37:37,869 --> 00:37:42,509 Speaker 1: redo that Conan interview. Yeah, you know when you've had 663 00:37:42,509 --> 00:37:45,069 Speaker 1: a shit day at work and you're like, I didn't 664 00:37:45,149 --> 00:37:48,629 Speaker 1: nail it, didn't nail it that day. No, I was 665 00:37:48,709 --> 00:37:51,229 Speaker 1: having a bad day. Yeah, I said things that I 666 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:55,909 Speaker 1: now regret. Doesn't Conan do some kind of some kind 667 00:37:55,869 --> 00:37:59,429 Speaker 1: of riding a car? Yeah? Or is that Jerry Jerry 668 00:37:59,469 --> 00:38:02,709 Speaker 1: gets a coffee in a car with the Candian Yeah, 669 00:38:02,749 --> 00:38:06,749 Speaker 1: and Letterman sits on Netflix with them. So I feel 670 00:38:06,749 --> 00:38:09,629 Speaker 1: like Conan would maybe go for a walk, play around 671 00:38:09,669 --> 00:38:13,189 Speaker 1: golf with your Yeah. Yeah. I think she needs to 672 00:38:13,269 --> 00:38:16,269 Speaker 1: redo that interview with Conan, and she needs to say, hey, Conan, 673 00:38:16,549 --> 00:38:20,829 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for correcting you and using your education against you. Yeah, 674 00:38:20,869 --> 00:38:23,589 Speaker 1: because the correct word is snuck. And then maybe they 675 00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:27,429 Speaker 1: can have a whole conversation about correct past dance verbs. Yeah, 676 00:38:27,509 --> 00:38:29,429 Speaker 1: because that's important for people to know so they don't 677 00:38:29,429 --> 00:38:33,789 Speaker 1: have arguments in their own lives. And then she needs 678 00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:37,749 Speaker 1: to clear up just a few of those comments and 679 00:38:37,869 --> 00:38:40,869 Speaker 1: probably admit that she's got some blind spots when it 680 00:38:40,869 --> 00:38:43,989 Speaker 1: comes to you talking about race. Yeah, maybe that would 681 00:38:43,989 --> 00:38:49,829 Speaker 1: be handy. Now, she's also upset people with fiction, Yeah, Yeah, 682 00:38:49,869 --> 00:38:53,189 Speaker 1: with Suddenly thirty, and so I did think. I was like, well, 683 00:38:53,189 --> 00:38:55,589 Speaker 1: do we need to redo it and explore it more 684 00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:59,149 Speaker 1: in a serious way? And then I thought it's been done. 685 00:38:59,309 --> 00:39:02,669 Speaker 1: For anyone who has seen the movie Poor Things, it 686 00:39:02,789 --> 00:39:08,469 Speaker 1: is very much yeah thirteen going on thirty, fatus going 687 00:39:08,509 --> 00:39:13,789 Speaker 1: on thirty. Yes, yeah, right, but taken more seriously. And 688 00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:17,469 Speaker 1: Mark Ruffalo is and Mark Ruffalo plays a slightly different character, 689 00:39:18,229 --> 00:39:21,949 Speaker 1: but he's there. He's there, and it is about special 690 00:39:21,989 --> 00:39:24,749 Speaker 1: interest in women that appear thirty but are in fact 691 00:39:24,949 --> 00:39:28,509 Speaker 1: younger mentally. Mm hmmm. Actually, if you're upset about Suddenly thirty, 692 00:39:28,509 --> 00:39:31,869 Speaker 1: you'll probably also be infuriated by Poor Things. Yeah. Yeah, 693 00:39:31,989 --> 00:39:35,749 Speaker 1: So I suggest you watch it. Good idea, just to 694 00:39:35,909 --> 00:39:39,709 Speaker 1: get kind of annoyed. All right, Well, my charge is 695 00:39:39,749 --> 00:39:43,309 Speaker 1: to do with Suddenly thirty. It's broadly an issue with magic, 696 00:39:44,189 --> 00:39:47,709 Speaker 1: the movie What Women Want? Do you remember that with 697 00:39:47,749 --> 00:39:52,269 Speaker 1: Mel Gibson, the movie Freaky Friday. My issue, when I 698 00:39:52,309 --> 00:39:54,669 Speaker 1: really interrogate it and I sit with myself, is that 699 00:39:55,269 --> 00:39:58,469 Speaker 1: with films that involve magic, where does the magic begin 700 00:39:58,509 --> 00:40:02,389 Speaker 1: and end? Because every scene I'm going, well, is this magic? Yeah? Okay, 701 00:40:02,389 --> 00:40:03,549 Speaker 1: this magic? Do I believe? 702 00:40:03,549 --> 00:40:03,709 Speaker 2: Oh? 703 00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:07,149 Speaker 1: So this is real, but I meant to just accept 704 00:40:07,229 --> 00:40:09,549 Speaker 1: the magic that God is here. There's also a lot 705 00:40:09,549 --> 00:40:14,469 Speaker 1: of logic problems with magic. So in What Women Want, 706 00:40:15,069 --> 00:40:19,109 Speaker 1: he can read women's minds. But what I always thought 707 00:40:19,149 --> 00:40:22,429 Speaker 1: watching that movie, I'm like, hmm, minds aren't just a 708 00:40:22,549 --> 00:40:27,069 Speaker 1: clear voice of chatter of chatter? Yeah? What about when 709 00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:29,669 Speaker 1: you're thinking in images? Can he see them? Yeah? It's 710 00:40:29,669 --> 00:40:32,429 Speaker 1: a great can you only hear your thoughts? Yeah? And 711 00:40:32,789 --> 00:40:36,749 Speaker 1: great premise. I suppose you just you tie yourself in, 712 00:40:36,789 --> 00:40:40,589 Speaker 1: not you tie yourself what you do? And I suppose 713 00:40:40,589 --> 00:40:42,549 Speaker 1: that my sentence, I know what you're saying about poor things, 714 00:40:42,869 --> 00:40:45,829 Speaker 1: but there is a very real fallout to lose seventeen 715 00:40:45,909 --> 00:40:49,949 Speaker 1: years of memory, absolute tragedy. You don't know who? Do 716 00:40:49,989 --> 00:40:54,549 Speaker 1: you love your husband? I also wonder those movies involving 717 00:40:54,589 --> 00:40:59,029 Speaker 1: magic are they dangerous? Because what women want it starts 718 00:40:59,109 --> 00:41:03,469 Speaker 1: with a hair dryer and he electrocutes and people what 719 00:41:03,629 --> 00:41:05,509 Speaker 1: they think that if they electrocute themselves in the bath, 720 00:41:05,509 --> 00:41:06,949 Speaker 1: they're just gonna be able to read minds. 721 00:41:07,149 --> 00:41:09,149 Speaker 2: Please don't electrocute yourself. 722 00:41:09,269 --> 00:41:11,909 Speaker 1: And then I think it's like, if you're reading minds, 723 00:41:12,029 --> 00:41:14,709 Speaker 1: then the correct thing to do is maybe you'll like 724 00:41:14,789 --> 00:41:16,869 Speaker 1: drinking yourself again. It's always you got to do the 725 00:41:16,869 --> 00:41:19,509 Speaker 1: magic again at the end to get back to a way. 726 00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:25,629 Speaker 1: Imagine being stuck in an unending magic loop. See that's stressful. 727 00:41:26,669 --> 00:41:28,749 Speaker 1: How does she get out of it in suddenly thirty? 728 00:41:28,829 --> 00:41:31,269 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay. So at the end, it's Maddie's 729 00:41:31,269 --> 00:41:34,109 Speaker 1: wedding day and she goes and then he gives her 730 00:41:34,429 --> 00:41:38,269 Speaker 1: the house thing again. More magic dust wakes up in 731 00:41:38,389 --> 00:41:42,069 Speaker 1: the closet back at thirteen, and she kisses Mattie got 732 00:41:42,149 --> 00:41:51,389 Speaker 1: the magic. You're smiling with such joy. I like I 733 00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:54,669 Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, I like it because then she ends 734 00:41:54,709 --> 00:41:58,149 Speaker 1: up with mircrafflo oh and then it flashes to the future. Yeah, 735 00:41:58,189 --> 00:42:00,989 Speaker 1: and she ends up with mirk Raffolo and she changes 736 00:42:00,989 --> 00:42:03,989 Speaker 1: her future ends up in a house that looks like 737 00:42:04,109 --> 00:42:10,549 Speaker 1: the house you made her. Wow. Yeah beautiful Philamuth. Yeah, life, 738 00:42:10,589 --> 00:42:16,509 Speaker 1: isn't it? Calling back and forward, back and forward. We 739 00:42:16,629 --> 00:42:20,509 Speaker 1: just do this chronologically, very confused. That's all we've got 740 00:42:20,549 --> 00:42:24,229 Speaker 1: time for on cancel this week. The executive producer of 741 00:42:24,349 --> 00:42:28,069 Speaker 1: Canceled is to listiit as with audio editing by Tom Lyon. 742 00:42:28,549 --> 00:42:36,389 Speaker 1: We will be back next week. Bye.