WEBVTT - G Flip On Chrishell, Change and Choosing Happiness 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:10.799 You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Hello, I'm Kate Langbrook 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:15.120 and welcome to No Filter. So this summer we've curated 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:21.680 a special No Filter playlist, unmissible conversations with extraordinary Australians 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:26.800 whose stories remind us of what authenticity, or courage or 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:31.120 love really look like. And today we're bringing you one 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:35.680 of the most joyful, the most honest, the incredible g flip. 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.560 GE's about to kick off their massive Australian tour in February, 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.199 returning home to play the songs that are taking them 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:46.280 around the world. But behind the music is a story 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:51.519 about identity, drive and the kind of love that changes everything. 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:55.920 G opens up about growing up in Melbourne, losing their 0:00:55.920 --> 0:01:00.320 beloved drum teacher, finding their sound, falling in love with 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:04.800 this selling Sunset star Krishelle Staus and how the two 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.440 of them are heading into the new year with big 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:13.440 life changes and even bigger dreams. This is g flip raw, funny, 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.000 beautifully unfiltered g flip. 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:22.080 The last few years. To be honest, it's an IVF. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.600 It's been a real struggle and we've had so many 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:26.959 ups and downs, and for anyone that goes through that 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:31.600 whole process, like hopeful moments and then sad moments, and 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.000 then there's a little bit of hope, and then it 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.840 all backfires and then it's going starting again. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:46.360 Hello and welcome to No Filter. I'm kateline Brook and 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:50.160 today we're diving into the world of g Flip and 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.040 what a world it is. G Flip is one of 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:58.240 Australia's most exciting boundary pushing musicians, and from their breakout 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:03.280 hits to life behind the scenes, g shares the moments 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.440 that shape their journey from the highs of touring and 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:13.760 performing too very personal stories of love, relationships and family. 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.960 In this episode, we hear about the chance encounter that 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:24.640 led to meeting Krishelle Staus, how their friendship turned into love, 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.960 and what it's really like navigating life and relationships in 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:35.240 the very public eye. Plus, g Flip opens up about 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:39.200 the challenges of IVF, the joy of celebrating love with 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:44.040 annual weddings, and how they stay true to themselves no 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.840 matter what the world throws at them. This is g 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:53.919 flip raw unfiltered, and I think you'll find utterly captivating. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:03:03.960 G flip Yell you straddle continents. Do I love a straddle? 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:09.560 I love estratu. But you're with us now. So you're 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:14.280 in Sydney. I'm in Melbourne, I'm in your hometown. Yes, 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.079 I was just there yesterday. And what were you doing here? 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:19.280 I flew in yesterday. 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:21.280 I didn't want to fly in and have a day 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.880 off in Sydney, so because my family aren't here. So 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:28.040 sometimes I will fly into Melbourne just for a few 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.400 hours to see my family, then get straight back to 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:31.800 the airport and fly to Sydney. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.079 So how was that. What did you do? Were you 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.120 at the house. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:40.280 Or Yeah, so just at my place in Melbourne and 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:44.080 my sister and my brother in law and their little niece. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.280 My little niece, so their little baby who's one and 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:49.560 a half and name's Betty Moon. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:50.480 She's so cute. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.640 So just hung out on the couch with them for 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.640 hours until I went straight back to the airport. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.760 And that's what I do. And how often are you 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:04.400 getting to do this? Because your life has I'm going 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.920 to say, in the last five years, what does it 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.880 feel like to you where it's kind of just gone stratospheric? 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.240 I think. 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:22.440 Probably after COVID, So before COVID, my career started, like 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.720 I became like a professional musician. I started doing this 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.680 as my day job, and then I tried to move 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.320 over to LA at the start of twenty twenty, had 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:38.440 my flight booked, my bags packed, and then called then yeah, 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.440 COVID happened, yeah, and then. 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.200 Took me till September twenty twenty one. 0:04:44.280 --> 0:04:47.080 Then I went over to the States to live, and 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.400 then from there on it just got a bit more hectic. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.560 So now I try to visit every three to four 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:53.560 months come back. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.560 What was it about LA that was calling you? 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:02.160 Definitely the music industry, just the industry over there. It's 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.520 like no other It's like nowhere else in the world 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.600 that there's that many producers, that many musicians, that many 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:12.560 like you know, if I'm in in Australia, it's like 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.120 there's no city that's like LA, Like Hollywood is crazy 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:21.000 over there, and it's so vibrant, and it's just everyone's 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.279 over there and everyone's doing it. And I wanted to 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.480 take my career to the next level. And I always thought, 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.120 you know, that was going to be the next step 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.120 for me. Is I want to be known as an 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:34.719 Ossie artist, but also an artist known in other territories 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.160 rather than just in Australia, so the jump. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.760 And have access to people that you can collaborate with 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:44.800 and who you yeah, exchange creative juices with exactly. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.640 Yeah, you know, my plan was always to move over 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.080 there at some point. 0:05:49.280 --> 0:05:55.800 So and when you say always, so you are little 0:05:55.920 --> 0:06:03.279 Georgia Flipo living in Melbourne, Yep. What was Georgia Flippo 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.120 like a kid? Yeah? 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:11.280 I was very extroverted and like my older sister, was 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.200 quite shy and would hide behind like mum's legs where 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.719 we were anywhere, and I would be I almost needed 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.960 a leash. I would be like sprinting into every room 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.400 and loud, and I was just not afraid. I had 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.680 no fear as a kid, and I definitely had relentless, 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.640 undiagnosed ADHD. 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:31.400 Right. 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.200 I was like, there's videos of me as a kid, 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.800 and it's like, oh, yeah, that kid has ADHD. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.760 Right, so it seems so apparent now. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:44.920 Yes, and just so energetic and but I really couldn't focus. 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.200 I didn't do very well in school. I was put 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.200 in special like classes and I would have to stay 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:54.560 back at like lunchtime and recess to like learn because 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:59.159 I just I really sucked. I feel like academically, but 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.560 then I had niche things that I knew everything about. 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.880 So I had certain things I was obsessed with as 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.360 a kid that I'd know every little detail about till 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.640 I found music. And then it was music that I 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.000 was obsessed with in drums that I wanted to know 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.360 everything about. And then that took me to where I 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:17.960 am now. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.800 And what because your dad was a muso, like amateur muso, 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:23.920 but enjoyed it enormously. 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.120 Yeah, he always you know, we'd talk about it, and 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.760 he always felt like he was meant to be a 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:35.080 rock star, but his parents weren't as supportive of that idea. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:39.800 So he always, you know, supported me. He always supported 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.840 me so much, you know, growing up and playing music 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.000 and we'd jam in the garage and he drive me 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.120 to all my first gigs as a fourteen year old, 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.280 and he really. 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.360 Backed me with all of it. Which is interesting because 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:59.160 partly the parental thing. I understand, how many rock stars 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:00.680 can they be in the world, do you know what 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.040 I mean? And what's the likelihood of our kid being 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.400 the rocks star? So parents always had this overriding oh, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.400 you need to make a sensible choice. But he saw 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:16.080 something in you recognized obviously the same thing in himself. Yeah, 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:20.400 and where did the drums come from? The drums? 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.880 So my drums was my first instrument in my first love. 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.840 I got my first drum kit when I was nine 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.240 years old from my auntie and uncle because my cousin 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.880 played drums and as a nine year old or eight 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.400 year old, seven eight year old, I was obsessed with 0:08:34.439 --> 0:08:37.400 his drum kit. So on my ninth birthday, I got 0:08:37.439 --> 0:08:40.239 a little drum kit for my birthday and it was 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.359 one of the greatest days of my life. And I 0:08:43.439 --> 0:08:46.120 remember they hid it in the lounde room of my 0:08:46.199 --> 0:08:50.720 grandma's house and unveiled it to me, and I remember 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.959 my eyes just like popping out of my head. 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:58.479 I was that excited about it. And because I imagine 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.639 that was the greatest day of your life and maybe 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:07.240 for a period, the worst day in the neighbour's life. Oh, 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:11.320 when a drum kit rives in Yanana's house. 0:09:12.199 --> 0:09:17.479 Yes, I've never had a neighbor that likes me until 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.520 I guess the last two years at Chrishelle's moving into 0:09:21.839 --> 0:09:26.920 Krishelle's house. But every other neighbor has hated me with 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:27.679 a passion. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.920 Yes, because it's a I mean, it's not it's not 0:09:32.079 --> 0:09:35.480 something that you can do silently, is it. No, it's 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:36.040 really not. 0:09:37.239 --> 0:09:40.160 And you can get like you get an electric drum kit, 0:09:40.239 --> 0:09:43.759 but it's not the same. So yeah, my neighbor growing up, 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.559 he hated me, like hated me, hate. 0:09:47.959 --> 0:09:51.160 He would still be angry about me. Oh like really, 0:09:51.719 --> 0:09:53.639 And do you see that neighbor even now. 0:09:54.359 --> 0:09:57.200 No, he moved out when I kind of moved out 0:09:57.319 --> 0:09:57.840 of home. 0:09:58.079 --> 0:10:03.360 So yeah, oh that's annoying. That's really annoying because you 0:10:03.479 --> 0:10:07.040 want that kind of you want that redemption arc where 0:10:07.079 --> 0:10:09.960 you come into town on the tray truck that you're 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.080 playing in your new film clip and the neighbors just 0:10:13.119 --> 0:10:14.759 got up suck it up. 0:10:15.239 --> 0:10:18.040 Yeah, No, I hope sometimes I think about when my 0:10:18.839 --> 0:10:22.160 tour poster is around on buses or I hope. 0:10:21.959 --> 0:10:22.640 He sees it. 0:10:22.719 --> 0:10:24.839 He's like some people are like, I hope my ex 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.000 sees my face, but I'm like, I hope that neighbor 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:27.960 growing up sees me. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:33.040 It's a very interesting thing because I think things seem 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.720 in retrospect if you look back, you're like, oh, that 0:10:35.839 --> 0:10:39.040 was my pathway, and my pathway was quite clear. It's 0:10:39.119 --> 0:10:43.479 lead you to here. Yes, when you were a kid. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.759 What did you see for yourself. 0:10:47.199 --> 0:10:50.439 When I was a kid, So my first like, I think, 0:10:50.479 --> 0:10:53.599 it wasn't until I was I got my drums. Before 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.040 I got my drums, I was obsessed with cars and 0:10:56.079 --> 0:10:56.559 I wanted to. 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.920 Be a taxi driver. And then I got my drums. 0:10:59.839 --> 0:11:03.040 And then when I got my drums, everything changed, and 0:11:03.079 --> 0:11:06.520 I wanted to be a rock star or in a band. 0:11:07.079 --> 0:11:10.480 But I also thought maybe I wanted to get into acting. 0:11:11.319 --> 0:11:14.199 And then I also wanted to be a singer. So 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.800 there was all these different things. But I never got 0:11:16.839 --> 0:11:19.759 singing lessons ever. I only ever had drum lesson. 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.959 And so you thought, I mean, when did you let 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:24.800 the dream of being a taxi driver go? 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:29.120 Wow? I know, I think when I was when I 0:11:29.119 --> 0:11:31.640 got my drums. I think when I was like nine 0:11:31.719 --> 0:11:33.960 years old, then the taxi driver went away. I just 0:11:34.079 --> 0:11:36.280 was obsessed with cars as a kid. I knew every 0:11:36.319 --> 0:11:40.920 make and model. I'd research, you know, what fuel injection 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.639 each model would have, and what alloy wheels would come 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:45.600 with each model, and like all I wanted to do 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.600 on a weekend is go to car yards with my dad. 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:49.240 It was this weird obsession I had. 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:53.280 Wow, A taxi driver, and then yeah, I got drums, 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.120 and then I think it started to form that I 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:56.920 wanted to be a musician, which. 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:00.599 Is just as well because I mean, AI hasn't overtaken 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.120 the skill of a drama yet. But there is a 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.400 thing called Uber that has meant that a lot of 0:12:05.439 --> 0:12:09.760 taxi drivers are not leaving their destiny that they drink 0:12:09.839 --> 0:12:10.559 for themselves. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:15.439 Yeah, yeah, you know, I still love driving cars. You know, 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.920 maybe later in life I'll become an Uber drum My 0:12:18.359 --> 0:12:21.439 stepdad's an Uber driver, so yeah, you never know. 0:12:22.199 --> 0:12:27.319 And so when you talk to drumming, did you allow 0:12:27.439 --> 0:12:33.000 yourself to project a future in which that was going 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:33.759 to be your life? 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.040 Yeah, it was always in me, and I like really 0:12:37.079 --> 0:12:39.559 fell in love with drums, and I had this passion. 0:12:39.599 --> 0:12:41.519 It was the only thing that I could stay still 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.960 and do. I couldn't really stay still and do anything 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.439 but drums. I would sit there for hours. And then 0:12:47.479 --> 0:12:51.640 it wasn't until I met my drum teacher in year seven, 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:55.199 Jenny Rose Morrish, who was like, to me, like the 0:12:55.199 --> 0:12:57.599 coolest person, and I wanted to be exactly like them. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:58.559 They were like the. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.559 Coolest chicken played in a band and sang backing vocals 0:13:03.119 --> 0:13:06.519 and then having her my teacher. I feel like when 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:10.159 your brain is like forming at those like early teenage 0:13:10.239 --> 0:13:12.719 years and you're figuring yourself out and what your dreams 0:13:12.719 --> 0:13:13.840 are going to be and what you want to be 0:13:13.839 --> 0:13:15.480 when you're older, and who you want to look up to. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.599 She really became my person who I wanted to be 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.839 exactly like. And so she was a drummer in a band, 0:13:23.839 --> 0:13:25.079 so I wanted to be a drummer. 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.800 Those people are so important. And if you're a kid 0:13:29.959 --> 0:13:33.839 that is a little bit different, or probably any kid really, 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.040 but especially if you're a kid that feels a bit different, 0:13:37.359 --> 0:13:39.920 all it takes is one person to see you and 0:13:39.959 --> 0:13:44.520 to see the complete you that you can't even necessarily 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:45.839 see yourself at the time. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:51.120 Yeah, to change everything. One hundred and definitely. Jenny was 0:13:51.119 --> 0:13:53.880 that for me, and that I think drums took me 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.800 on a path and then Jenny just like solidified that 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.120 path and then it never it never ended, and. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.000 Then she wanted what for you? 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.800 So she after high school did a Bachelor of Music 0:14:06.959 --> 0:14:09.679 and made it in percussion, and I wanted to do 0:14:09.719 --> 0:14:11.800 the exact same course as her because I wanted to 0:14:11.839 --> 0:14:14.520 do everything she did so I wanted to study music 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.520 and major in drums, and she helped me with my 0:14:18.599 --> 0:14:23.479 auditions to get into you need it to study music, 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.479 and then I got in, and then not too long 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:31.560 after that, she passed away. And then I kind of 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.400 remember wanting to go on a mission to fulfill everything 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:39.800 that we talked about growing up and like her us 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.759 in the practice room in high school because she taught 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.120 me for my whole high school. We talk about how 0:14:46.119 --> 0:14:47.560 we're going to tour the world and we're going to 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.359 see America and we're going to live on a tour 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.359 bus and we're going to do this and all the 0:14:52.359 --> 0:14:55.840 coolest things. So when she passed away, it was like really, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.320 it really hit me, like holy shit, Like I want 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.280 to go do everything that we talked about. 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.359 You know the day that you got into your course, 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:11.080 which those auditions are intense, Yeah, like many are called, 0:15:11.119 --> 0:15:15.720 but few were chosen. Yes. Who was the first person 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.200 that you called when you got in? 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:23.000 Ah? I think I got an email. So I remember 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.759 like screaming at home and then yeah, texting Jenny because 0:15:27.479 --> 0:15:31.560 we went through all the drum pieces together and like 0:15:32.239 --> 0:15:33.680 and I knew I was going to get in because 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:37.000 I practiced so hard, like I was so ready for it, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.080 but yeah, Jenny and then my family who were home, 0:15:40.119 --> 0:15:43.359 because I just wanted to get into that course because 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:47.120 it was based not on academics so ye, which I 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:51.520 wasn't good at. So yeah, I was like, like, I 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:56.200 really really wanted to get in there and study music. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:16:00.960 And then during that course is when I realized that 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:06.400 I would always seen backing vocals. But there was this 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.920 one class we had where there was too many drummers 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.639 and not enough singers. So I put my hand up 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.960 to be the lead singer. When I was I think 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:22.720 I was like at nineteen or twenty, and I sang 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:29.759 James Brown, and the university thought I was really good 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.320 that they asked me if I wanted to move over 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.560 to the singing course on the drumming course, and that 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:42.760 was kind of the first taste that I just didn't know. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.200 I didn't know I could sing well. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.960 And then that really gave me the confidence because I've 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.119 never had a lesson, so that gave me the confidence 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:51.000 to be like. 0:16:51.239 --> 0:16:55.600 Oh, maybe I'm an alright singer. I guess that's interesting 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.840 because when I first heard about you, I was living initially, 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.720 and in fact it was our mutual friend Pete Hellier 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.920 who told me about it. Oh, my Collingwood brother. Yeah, 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:11.600 you're Collingwood brother. Boom haha. But I was at the 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:17.199 time thinking I don't really know many singing drummers. I 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:21.440 knew Cram from Spider Base. Yes, love Cram, Yeah, and 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:26.520 that because it's not really a very common model. No, 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:27.520 it's not. 0:17:27.639 --> 0:17:29.520 And growing up, Cram was one of the first people 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:30.719 I saw drumming and singing. 0:17:30.879 --> 0:17:32.520 Oh really Yeah. 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.560 And now he's a buddy of mine and we've played 0:17:34.679 --> 0:17:36.639 some shows together, but he was kind of the first 0:17:36.639 --> 0:17:40.199 person I ever saw on TV singing and drumming, and 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.600 that really opened up my eyes. And especially because Jenny 0:17:43.639 --> 0:17:48.240 did backing vocals. Then it made me learn and then we. 0:17:48.159 --> 0:17:49.840 Used to practice. Jenny taught me. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.239 She'd make me drum and then have a conversation with 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:57.119 her so I could put my body on autopilot. She'd 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:58.959 asked me questions. 0:17:59.159 --> 0:18:03.480 Right, which means that later on, when you're singing, yeah, 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.359 you can drum and the lyrics will come. Yeah. 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.399 It just puts my body. My body's always on autopilot. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.320 And basically all I'm thinking about is the singing and 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:17.919 remembering lyrics. My body is on autopilot. And because Jenny 0:18:17.919 --> 0:18:20.359 taught me that from a young age, I used to 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:24.760 just drum while my brain's just thinking about answering questions 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:25.840 that she's asking me. 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.479 So that split my brain kind of into and for 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:33.480 the ADHD that would actually be really good. Yeah. 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.879 I love doing multiple things at once because my brain 0:18:36.919 --> 0:18:39.199 how it works is I've got like a tab open 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.239 of like ten files in my brain that is thinking 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:47.279 all the time. So yeah it yeah, but cram and 0:18:48.159 --> 0:18:51.359 Yeah inspired me a lot, and then yeah, I just 0:18:51.399 --> 0:18:53.080 started writing my own music. 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:57.439 Then do you think that Jenny saw you? So she 0:18:57.639 --> 0:19:00.119 saw the musical side of you, But that's a very 0:19:00.159 --> 0:19:05.920 intimate relationship between a teacher who's taught you so much. Yes, and, 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:10.720 like I said, sees the entirety of you. What did 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:15.120 she say of you when it comes to gender? Do 0:19:15.159 --> 0:19:15.919 you think. 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:23.679 I think with gender back then, it wasn't in our vocabulary, 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.800 It wasn't talked about, Like not being non binary wasn't 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:31.199 really a thing then. But being like queer and like 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:36.039 being a lesbian. I think she definitely saw me because 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.200 she said I remember her saying something to me when 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.279 I was like, I'm going to say like fourteen or something. 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.639 She's like she said something like, one day when. 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:49.600 You're older, like you'll figure out like who you truly 0:19:49.679 --> 0:19:52.080 are and it's going to be so magical for you 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.760 said something in like in those words. 0:19:55.399 --> 0:19:57.560 And I always remember it, and I always remember being like, 0:19:57.639 --> 0:19:58.840 what did she mean? 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:02.959 And then it wasn't until later that, like I first 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.879 got with a woman for the first time, that I 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.720 was like, man, like, Jenny knew me so like she 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.680 and she also said I remember her saying, I don't 0:20:12.679 --> 0:20:14.719 know what you're going to do with your life, but 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.359 it's going to be it's going to be something like 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:19.960 And it makes me like tear up when I think 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:20.280 about it. 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.480 Because it's like, oh my god. So I really feel 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:23.999 like she's like a guardian name do it to me 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:28.960 or something like that. Yeah, well she is, Yeah, yeah 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.719 she is, and she was and she is because I 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.600 think when you have a relationship like that, the energy 0:20:35.639 --> 0:20:41.400 of it stays with you. Yeah, and now you're carrying 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:48.639 her dreams as well. Yeah, like beyond beyond I would 0:20:48.679 --> 0:20:52.399 think imagining. Did you imagine stuff for yourself? 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.960 Yeah? I always like it's almost like I was delusional, 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.800 like I really thought every everything was possible, I thought, 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:05.199 like if I wanted a drum for the biggest artists 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.920 in the world, like I can figure out a way 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:11.520 to make that happen. Like I always thought everything was possible, 0:21:11.639 --> 0:21:16.120 Like there was never anything that I thought wasn't possible. 0:21:16.159 --> 0:21:18.199 And I don't know where I got that from, and 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.639 I don't know how that happened, but that's always how 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:27.760 my brain operated. So when it came to me deciding 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.760 to stop playing drums for other people, because I did 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.199 that for a while, playing drums for other bands, and 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:36.760 when I really decided to change gears and that I'm 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.800 going to go for being a solo artist now, because 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.439 it was always kind of knocking at me in the 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:42.480 back of my head, being like, you should be a 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.040 solo artist, you should be a solo artist. But I 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.399 was always kind of hiding behind the drums and playing 0:21:47.399 --> 0:21:48.240 for other bands. 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:52.600 And session is session is like dreams for some people 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:57.360 as well, Like there's no shame in that. No, No, 0:21:57.639 --> 0:22:01.639 you had the calling. What did that feel like? That calling? 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:05.600 I just remember when I was like fourteen fifteen, so 0:22:05.639 --> 0:22:08.159 I always played drums, but then I started teaching myself 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:12.680 guitar and piano, and I'd run. I'd run home from 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:16.280 the school bus and before my family all came home, 0:22:16.679 --> 0:22:19.200 I just want alone time so I could write songs. 0:22:19.679 --> 0:22:21.280 And I'd play on my. 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:25.320 Little shitty cassio keyboard and my first little guitar, and 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.920 I'd just write songs. And I remember delusionally thinking like, 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.759 these songs are so good, like I am such a 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.399 good songwriter, and they would be horrible songs. But I 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:40.919 remember the delusionalness in my brain being like encouraging me 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:45.000 made me thought that I was a really, really talented songwriter, 0:22:45.159 --> 0:22:47.000 and I was like, these are such good songs, They're 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:50.520 so catchy. And then that kept carrying on, and while 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:53.520 I was playing drums for other people, I was always 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:57.199 writing songs and then teaching myself how to produce music 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:02.160 and record music. So always in my head it was like, oh, 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.719 it's also the band I was playing with, we we 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.840 couldn't share song ideas. It was just his songs, so 0:23:07.879 --> 0:23:10.800 then I couldn't have input. 0:23:10.919 --> 0:23:13.080 With your brilliant songs that you were writing. 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:17.759 Yeah, So yeah, it was always when that band, the 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.479 last band I played for, finish, then it was like, 0:23:21.639 --> 0:23:25.040 I think it's time to do this solo thing, and 0:23:25.679 --> 0:23:27.359 you know, the way that my brain works is like, 0:23:27.399 --> 0:23:30.520 it's always possible, so we'll figure out how to get there. 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:36.680 It's funny you say delusional, but you weren't delusional. 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:40.679 Yeah, but I think it's at the I find a 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:44.439 lot of people that I've met that have, I don't know, 0:23:44.639 --> 0:23:49.119 become successful musicians. It's this crazy belief we have in 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:52.399 ourselves when we haven't even sharpened our skills yet. Like 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:56.480 when those like I used to think then that, oh, yeah, 0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:00.159 I'm going to be a super successful artist. But my 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:04.160 skills like I could barely sing, like could barely rock 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.960 a guitar solo, like, my skills weren't sharpened. And now 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:09.280 that I'm older, I can identify that and look back 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.520 and be like man like the confidence I had. The 0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:17.960 confidence was insane like, and I was never outwardly arrogant 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:18.359 about it. 0:24:18.399 --> 0:24:19.560 I never told anyone this. 0:24:19.679 --> 0:24:22.999 I always kept it as my little secret that I 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:24.560 wanted to be a solo artist. 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:32.119 I never shared it with anyone. Coming up after the break, 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.359 g Flip recalls the moment they went from music teacher 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:41.600 to music artist overnight. You knew that you were going 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:43.640 to get into. Was it the conservatorium? 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.720 Yeah, it was it was a Bachelor of Music majoring 0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:47.399 in drums. 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.239 Now you said when you were talking about that, you 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.720 knew you were going to get in because you'd worked 0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:58.520 so hard. Yes, Now, I reckon that's a through line, 0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:02.280 and that's the divide between people that might have some 0:25:02.399 --> 0:25:07.720 delulu notion about what what they want for their future, yeah, 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:13.679 versus what makes that happen. Yeah, and your work ethic 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.880 is phenomenal, thank you. 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:21.280 Yeah, I do work a lot. I don't know how 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.720 to not work. Actually, it's more it's kind of unhealthy. 0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:29.520 But Yeah, even with those auditions, I would practice, rehearse 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:31.960 everything that they were going to even ask me. So 0:25:32.879 --> 0:25:36.639 I'd thought about every possible question they could ask me. 0:25:36.679 --> 0:25:41.679 So I had rehearsed, sharp, perfected answers. And even when 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:44.960 i'd audition for bands you'd have to audition three songs, 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:50.320 I'd learn their entire catalog just in case and backing vocals, 0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.359 so that when i'd go into an audition, I could 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:55.280 be like, Hey, you've played those three songs all day. 0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:57.199 How about we played this song or that song or 0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:01.399 that song. So I think for me, I've always over prepared, 0:26:01.879 --> 0:26:05.759 like so so so much that it's like if I 0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.240 did an audition like it'd be really hard to turn 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:12.440 me down. So even with my career, I did absolutely 0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:17.359 just everything possible. So it felt like I'd open the 0:26:17.399 --> 0:26:20.719 door in so many avenues that at least one of 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:22.080 the routes is going to work. 0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:26.000 Because I always think there's so many ways to fuck 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.919 yourself up, and there's so many ways that the external 0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.840 world can trip you up as well. You don't need 0:26:31.879 --> 0:26:37.320 to trip yourself up through lack of preparation. No, no, yeah, 0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:41.119 And at what point did you go did you start 0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:45.359 to feel the momentum of all of that coming together. 0:26:45.919 --> 0:26:51.840 So you're singing, you're drumming, you've got the call to America. 0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:58.199 Was there a moment where you went, oh, I think, 0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:00.879 I think g Flip's going to do this. 0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:06.479 I think, yeah, there was definitely one defining moment. 0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:11.039 So after I. 0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:14.159 Left that last band, I gave myself one year to 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.999 basically find management or a label. And I had no 0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:23.680 connections in the Australian music scene, but I gave myself 0:27:24.679 --> 0:27:28.119 about a year to figure it out. So I made 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.439 Excel spreadsheets of the whole music industry in Australia. I 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:36.080 had everyone's details from Triple J all the booking agents, 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.800 Spotify playlisters, and I made this insane spreadsheet of the 0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:44.199 whole music industry, and then I would I was just 0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:46.720 I was so relentless. I was just insane, and I 0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:48.760 wanted to write my hit list of who I wanted 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.960 to be, my publicist and my booking agent. And then 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.800 I wrote as many wrote and produced as many songs 0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.480 in my bedroom and it's all I thought about. 0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:57.960 For a year. 0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.280 I went sober, I didn't really see my friends. All 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.240 my friends would come over on the weekend and help 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:03.840 me make my spreadsheets. 0:28:04.639 --> 0:28:06.719 Was very cute of them crafting. 0:28:07.639 --> 0:28:11.959 And then it was I started going to all these 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.720 in the Australian music scene. They have like Music Week 0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.600 in Melbourne, and they have Music Week in Sydney, and 0:28:18.639 --> 0:28:23.080 you'd go listen to managers and labels talk about the industry. 0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.679 And I would go there and my whole plan was 0:28:25.679 --> 0:28:28.399 that I'm going to talk to that manager afterwards and 0:28:28.399 --> 0:28:30.119 give him my demos, and I'm going to talk to 0:28:30.159 --> 0:28:32.600 that booking agent and learn more about the industry. 0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:34.680 And I was just so obsessed with it. 0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.560 And then this one manager, I walked up and said, Hey, 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.719 you should listen to my demos. I'm like Dave Grohl 0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.520 from Nirvana, played drums in a band, but now I'm 0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.000 a lead singer and I write the music. And you're 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:48.840 going to love my demos if you give me a shot, 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.200 just have a listen. And he looked at me and said, 0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.560 your confidence is so crazy. I'm actually going to listen 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.240 to your demos. And then he listened to the demos 0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.360 and then sent me a message and said, hey, come 0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:05.680 to my office Monday morning. And then I remember just 0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:10.440 driving my car and calling my dad and being like 0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:14.160 holy shit, like holy shit, and I'd worked the whole 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:18.040 year to the point and I got my database and 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:22.920 I was about to blast email everyone but my demos, 0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.120 but then that one manager heard it first and then 0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:28.719 he wanted to sign me for management and label. 0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:30.880 So then I took his name. 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.719 And then I messaged as many people as I could 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.719 in the Australian music industry and said he wants to 0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.080 sign me, so you should listen to my demos. And 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:44.200 then everyone that I sent them listened to my demos. 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.560 And then I just got to meet heaps of different 0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.160 people in the music industry and kind of. 0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.240 Pick my turn yourself into a bidding war. 0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:58.360 I did yeah, Wow, yeah, And then that all happened, 0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:01.320 and at the same time I had my first single 0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.959 about You that and I was obsessed with Triple J 0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:08.480 on Earth to this platform, and I was a super user. 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.080 I was so obsessed with that I would write reviews 0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.160 because I knew at some stage I'm going to have 0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.560 a single and I want to have a direct contact 0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:18.840 that I can give my song to them. Because this 0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:20.400 was about this is how my brain works. 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:21.360 I wanted every. 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:25.520 Avenue to work, so even the Triple J thing, I 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.840 was a super user. And then Max Quinn, I had 0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.840 his email and this doesn't mean that you get on 0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.120 the air, but it means you just have the email 0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.120 of the guy that works at Triple Jay on Earth 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.640 for me to just send him and be like, hey, 0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.120 I uploaded a song today. 0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:43.680 And then it was this was the day that. 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.160 To answer your question, that I remember everything feeling like, 0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.480 holy shit, I think it's going to work. Is that 0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:57.239 song that I uploaded to Triple Jay on Earth blew up? 0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.840 And then went on the air on Triple J and 0:30:59.920 --> 0:31:05.080 started going psycho online. And then I remember going to 0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.880 bed that night and I've documented all of this, actually 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:10.600 all of this story, I'm telling. 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:11.400 You the christ. 0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.519 Yeah, there's real life videos of me talking about it, 0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:16.920 but I have a video of me going to sleep 0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.719 that night and being like, holy shit, I don't think 0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:23.320 I'm going to have to, you know, teach drum lessons anymore. 0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:24.640 And I don't think I'm going to have to hand 0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.880 out pamphlets at rod Laver Arena anymore. Like I think 0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.520 I'm I think I've made it. Even though it was 0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.320 just the first I just got a spin. But it 0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.520 just made me think that, oh, I think I'm going 0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:38.840 to be okay here and I'm going to be able 0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:40.640 to do this for the rest of my life. 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:45.039 So did you send a little preyer up to Jenny 0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.040 at that time? 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.920 Yeah, definitely. Obviously Jenny's always in the back of my head. 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:56.040 And when the song came out, it was actually it 0:31:56.120 --> 0:32:01.600 was on her birthday. Oh really yeah, oh really see 0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:05.240 that I get these two confusis when she passed words 0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:10.120 on her birthday, but those dates vercant. Yeah, that was 0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:16.040 pretty special. And yeah, and then I just woke up 0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.520 and then everything changed and I had to message all 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.920 because I was teaching drum students in my bedroom and 0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.360 I had to message them all and say I'm so sorry, 0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.080 I won't be able to teach all of you anymore. 0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:31.080 Well, you dragged them straight away. Yeah, my life changed 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.600 the next day. Wow, And like when you say changed, 0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:42.240 what did that look like? Gigs or appointments or sessions. 0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.680 So my song went viral online and it hadn't even 0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:47.800 been released yet. It was just on Triple J on 0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.759 the website, so it wasn't even a release song. I 0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:55.120 just uploaded it to the website platform. But overnight it 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:59.680 went global and it became Pitchfork's Best New Song, which 0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.600 is like a big deal in the US. And then 0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:07.120 I started getting gig offers at south By Southwest in Texas, 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:11.680 which was in two weeks time, so I had two 0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:15.200 weeks to find a band and then play my first show, 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.880 which luckily, I'm such a freak and I prepared my 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.999 whole entire show already, so I was ready for that 0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.760 exact moment, because if I hadn't planned it all out first, 0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.200 I would have been in trouble. But I already had 0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:33.160 my show and my band members and thought exactly about 0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.640 what my live show would be. So then two weeks 0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.640 later from there, I was in the States and playing 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:40.840 my very first show, and that was that your. 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.880 First time in the States. No, I'd been in the 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:47.480 States before drumming for other bands, right, but in your 0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:48.400 own right. 0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:53.800 Yeah, the first time being g G Flip And then yeah, 0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:58.320 I had my first show as g Flip and yeah. 0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:02.360 Then it began and it never stopped. No, it never stopped. 0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:06.680 And then concurrently with that, because I do believe that 0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:11.719 when as an artist, particularly, the more that you can 0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:18.359 step into yourself, the more everything else blossoms. Yeah, and 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:22.080 so often those things that you grapple with about yourself 0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.319 or that you think you can't share are the very 0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:29.800 things that give you that are the wind in your wings. 0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:35.720 So with your I don't know, do you say self 0:34:35.759 --> 0:34:40.319 discovery or your revelations about yourself or your non binary thing, 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:46.640 your what was the compulsion then that you went, I 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:51.439 just need to share this with the famous Hey motherfuckers, 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:52.680 I'm non binary. 0:34:52.759 --> 0:34:59.160 Yeah, yeah, I guess. I was overtly queer and I 0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.440 had multiple partners that I'd write songs about, and you know, 0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:07.239 my music videos they were very queer leaning. And then 0:35:07.759 --> 0:35:10.279 just as I evolved as a human being, I learned 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:14.360 about what being and I would see like Sam Smith 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.640 and Demi Levado at the time, and people would come 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:21.279 out non binary, and I educated myself on what that was, 0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:27.239 and then I remember like really reading and understanding it 0:35:27.799 --> 0:35:32.040 and then being like, oh, oh my god, that's like 0:35:32.799 --> 0:35:35.399 so me to a t. And then when I would 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.600 try to explain being non binary to my friends or 0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.839 family members, then I would kind of use myself as 0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:47.319 an example, and it just felt it's just so me. 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:48.640 I just feel so. 0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.600 Non binary, and if you don't get it, it's because 0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:55.680 you're probably not non binary. Like I just feel so 0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.799 like a blend of genders. I just feel like the 0:35:58.799 --> 0:36:03.399 most gender smoothie motherfucker ever. And I felt like that 0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.000 from a very young age. I'd look at myself in 0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.319 the mirror and I'd be like because I went to 0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:12.640 Catholic school, and I'd be like, wow, God, really he 0:36:12.799 --> 0:36:16.880 ran out of girl insides and brain and I think 0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.640 he just put a bit of boy brain or insides 0:36:20.759 --> 0:36:23.960 in me, because I'd feel like a mix. And I'm 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.959 like seven years old, eight years old thinking that, and 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:30.479 then to me like, that's the most non binary thing, 0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:35.880 for most non binary thing for seven year old to think. 0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:37.520 That that God made you that way. 0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.319 Yeah, and obviously then there was no vocabulary for being 0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.479 non binary, Like I didn't know that was a thing. 0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:48.440 But I look back on my childhood and it just it. 0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.160 Being non binary makes so much sense I've always felt, 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:53.319 and for every non binary person, it's different where you 0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.120 fall on the spectrum. But I feel pretty fifty to 0:36:56.120 --> 0:37:00.920 fifty in the middle of like female male, mix of gender, 0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.399 and that's the best way I can describe it. That's 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:05.759 just who I am, and I don't know how to 0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:09.560 change it. So when people get in my DMS being hectic, it's. 0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:14.160 Yes, can't change this. Yes, when you told your family 0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:19.239 didn't make the same sense to them, or to your mom, 0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.879 or to your dad, or to your sister. Who who 0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:25.719 of them was the one that was like, yeah, I 0:37:25.759 --> 0:37:30.800 see that the most, Probably my sister the most. 0:37:30.799 --> 0:37:33.760 I feel like my mom and dad kind of didn't 0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:37.880 understand it because it was quite a while ago. Now 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.440 so I feel like now they're so educated on it 0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:45.640 because I'm their kid, but back then they did struggle 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:50.839 to understand pronouns and just figure out And I feel 0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.960 like for that age group, like they're in their early sixties, 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:57.640 so it is kind of harder. But for them to 0:37:58.320 --> 0:37:59.680 grapple the idea of it. 0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.120 I saw your dad do a cute thing actually on 0:38:02.279 --> 0:38:07.920 Sixty Minutes where he said sometimes I miss GenEd them. Yeah, 0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:10.000 and I thought that what that is? You just ask 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:11.840 for people to rise to meet you. 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.920 Really, Yeah, it's you know, and it's kind of a 0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:16.680 respect thing. 0:38:16.759 --> 0:38:18.999 It's like, that's what I go by. 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.279 And like, even if you stuff it up and completely 0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:25.359 fail and stuff up my pronouns, as long as you're like, 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.759 oh fuck, sorry, G and then you correct yourself or 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.719 just correct yourself, like so many of my mates will 0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.160 accidentally say she and then be like they and then 0:38:34.279 --> 0:38:37.080 just keep talking and you know, it's it's normal. 0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:43.680 After this short break, g Flip takes us inside their 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:51.879 relationship with wife Krishelle. Don't go anywhere. How was your 0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:58.160 meeting with Krishelle? Because at that point, so she's a 0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:05.520 massive star in the States. Yes, selling Sunset. She's had 0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.040 romantic entanglements on that show. She's been doing it for 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:12.239 so long. There's no secrets about her life. Really no. 0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:18.360 And then you two meet, you meet at a party. 0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:24.920 Yeah, our first meet was at a Halloween party that 0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:25.719 tones and I. 0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:29.279 Had, Ah, what was your costume? 0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:34.080 I was a skeleton, and so was Chrishelle. Oh really, 0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.959 so that's why we have a thing with skeletons, since 0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:40.280 I've got skeletons tattooed on my arms and our wedding 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:45.280 rings have skeletons on them. Oh so, yeah, we met. 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.839 She was a really hot skeleton. I got my my 0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.680 I literally found like some eyeliner pencil and just like 0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.719 blacked my eyes out and found like a kid's T 0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.080 shirt from Target that had bones on it and run 0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:00.960 it sleeves off. So I was a fifteen buck skeleton. 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:05.799 She was like, I really put together good looking skeleton. 0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:10.280 Well, she is a very good looking skeleton. She's yeah, 0:40:10.279 --> 0:40:16.600 she's insane looking. And from the moment you met the skeletons, like, 0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.359 what was that moment you were introduced to each other, 0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.399 or you went up and you talked to her, or 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.720 she came up to you. Can you remember your encounter, 0:40:25.759 --> 0:40:26.840 your skeleton encounter. 0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:31.280 Yeah, first time we met was one of Tone's best mates, 0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:35.000 Talia was at the front of this venue and. 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.200 Was like, oh, gee, come over meet Michelle. 0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.399 And then I was like all right, and then I 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:43.999 just came over and we shook hands and I said hey, 0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:46.160 and she said hey, and then I was like, like, 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.479 you're real, like a really good looking skeleton and I'm 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:53.840 not so good looking skeleton. But it wasn't like romantic 0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:57.640 or anything. It was just like a friend group meeting 0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:02.600 a friend group. It wasn't till like six months later 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:07.519 or something that then some barks flu yeah. 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:11.960 Which is was I mean, probably more straightforward for you 0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:16.640 m at that time than it was for her because 0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:22.399 she didn't think that she was gonna be a lesbian 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:26.720 or no. Right, she was straight as far as she knew, 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.640 and maybe Stille's but loves who she loves. 0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:35.239 Yeah, she doesn't really know what to call herself, Like 0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:38.080 the word is really pan sexual, and when you're pans sexual, 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.520 you're just attracted to energy. It's not really a gender, 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:45.680 it's the person. But she personally hates the word pansants. 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:51.200 It is it's sort of hard to casually toss toss 0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:51.680 that in. 0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.680 Yeah, it's a kind of ugly word. So she's like, no, 0:41:55.759 --> 0:41:58.000 I don't want to identify as that. So she just 0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:01.520 says like she falls in love with energy and people 0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:03.480 and who they are, and I guess you know that's 0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:08.279 the case with us, And yeah, we've been together now 0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:10.440 over three years. 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.999 And that's amazing because I love I've heard you tell 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:17.959 the story about when you asked her out after you'd 0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:22.040 had a couple of you know, encounters, and she said, 0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:24.760 I'm really sorry, yeah'm straight. 0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:32.040 Yes she did, but you were like, I just thought, well, 0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:37.640 we haven't been been very straight together recently, That's what 0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.439 I thought, Like the last few times we've had little 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:44.680 kisses here and there that wasn't very straight darling, But yeah, 0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:45.920 that's what I thought. 0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.120 But I just said, oh, okay, no worries. 0:42:48.799 --> 0:42:52.719 And then a few like a week after, I sent 0:42:52.799 --> 0:42:54.920 her some houses that I was because she's a real 0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.680 estate agent and I was going to try rent a 0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:02.960 house in La after tour my tour finished. So I 0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:04.799 sent her some houses and I was like, is this 0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:06.719 a good price range for where it is and the 0:43:06.759 --> 0:43:12.879 location and whatever? And then she offered to come and 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:17.080 look at the houses with me. And then that was 0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:17.879 our first date. 0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:21.480 A did you know at the time it was a 0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:23.479 date or it was only in retrospect? 0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.200 I think I knew it was a because yeah, in 0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.000 my head, she just told me she was straight and 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.840 not interested. And then when I rocked up to the house, 0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:37.680 I was in the car, and I looked out the 0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:40.480 window and saw her walking down the road to the house, 0:43:41.279 --> 0:43:45.760 and she was like adjusting her face makeup or something 0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:51.120 and looking incredible, Like I knew she'd taken time to 0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:55.360 get ready. And she remembers, like in her words, she 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.120 would say like when she was getting ready that day, 0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:00.479 she was getting ready like she was going to meet 0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.040 someone that she had a crush on, Like took that 0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:05.799 extra time and tried on different dress. No, not this, 0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:09.239 And so then that's kind of when it clicked in 0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.040 her brain. And I think it clicked in mind because 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:15.080 I was looking at like her walking down the street 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.359 looking like an absolute fox, and then also just like 0:44:19.279 --> 0:44:23.240 she was doing something like putting lip stuff on or something. 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:26.000 And then we were just at this house showing and 0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:29.239 we were just flirted the whole time, and then it 0:44:29.279 --> 0:44:30.680 never the flirting never. 0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:34.399 Ended, and it still hasn't ended, even though now you're 0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.560 an old married couple. Yeah. 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:41.440 Yeah, we do a wedding once a year. We reknew 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:45.280 our vows. It kind of started because our first wedding 0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:49.640 was so shotgun. We married after three months kind of dating, 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.520 which I think a lot of the world think we 0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:56.480 got married like a year later when really we. 0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:57.960 Got We kept it a secret. 0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:02.120 Because yeah, we got married like three months after we 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:06.840 started fully kind of dating. And then obviously we called 0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:12.040 our family and we decided the day of because we 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.080 worked out we both had the day off the next day, 0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:16.880 so then we ended up deciding to go to Vegas 0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:19.960 and get married. Anyway, we called all our friends and 0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:23.200 family and they were all kind of like, what do 0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:25.680 you mean, Like they were very happy for us, but 0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.160 they were sad they were missing it. So we said, 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.440 don't worry, we're going to do another one. Like so, 0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:33.719 then we're going to do another one. So then the 0:45:33.759 --> 0:45:36.520 next one was in Palm Springs so that our friends 0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:39.080 in LA could come, and then my family's like, but 0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:40.319 we can't make it, so. 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.319 We're like, yeah, okay, we'll do another one. 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:45.520 So then we did another one in Australia with all 0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.000 my family, and then this year we had other friends 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:49.759 that missed out, so then we were like, okay, we'll 0:45:49.799 --> 0:45:50.000 do it. 0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:52.160 And then it just became the Wedding World Tour. 0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.799 So now we do a wedding every year, and you know, 0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:59.239 we're covering the base of a big wedding, which we 0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:02.080 probably that most people have with over one hundred guests. 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:05.239 We're just slowly getting to all one hundred World War 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:10.760 ten at a time. Yes, and what like your last one? 0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.080 Was it it was medieval? Was it then medieval? And 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:18.239 you aren't? Were you a knight? I don't know, I was, Yeah, 0:46:18.279 --> 0:46:23.080 what were you? Was it a costume shop or was it? No? 0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:24.520 So arn't directed? 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:29.200 Yeah, no, So all our weddings are planned one week 0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.280 in advance or less because our whole thing with weddings 0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.759 is we don't want to be stressed because we hate 0:46:34.759 --> 0:46:36.680 stress for weddings and it should be about love. 0:46:37.799 --> 0:46:40.000 So everything is so last minute planned. 0:46:40.799 --> 0:46:44.000 So really I had to just look on Amazon and 0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:49.520 see what could get delivered in time, and I bought. 0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:52.840 What was the description? What was the description of the costume? 0:46:53.759 --> 0:46:58.160 Some like Renaissance medieval royal coat? 0:46:58.880 --> 0:46:59.120 Yeah. 0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:02.680 And then and then I bought a sort I like 0:47:02.759 --> 0:47:05.239 the thought of having a sword that was called so 0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:09.879 I bought a foam sword and a sword holder. And 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.680 then I wore some of Kroshelle's like leggings from her 0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:15.520 fitness and then I just wore these boots that I'm 0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:16.400 wearing right now. 0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:19.640 It was gorgeous. It was a bit Zelderish too. 0:47:20.759 --> 0:47:23.680 Yeah, it was a bit fantasy, and we're not like 0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.520 into that stuff. It was kind of a joke, like 0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.560 it was a week out from when we're meant to 0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:31.759 be getting married, because we always have to do it 0:47:31.799 --> 0:47:34.919 in July, and I think it was Kroshelle was just like, 0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.839 what was if we did a medieval wedding, and I 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:39.439 just looked at it. I was like, oh my god, 0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:42.520 that's so funny, like we should get a loop player, 0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:44.399 and then ks like we should get people who fight 0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:48.080 with swords, and we just were making each other laugh. 0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:51.359 And then we happened to look on Airbnb and there 0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:55.160 was a castle around the corner that you could hire 0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.680 just as an Airbnb. So then we were like, all right, 0:47:58.759 --> 0:48:01.480 let's book it, and then let's find some people to 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:02.440 fight with some swords. 0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:08.440 You jousted jousted like you've verally jousted, and in fact, 0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:13.240 the relationship between the two of you is very lovely, 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:18.319 and the happiness between you is you know, it's when 0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:21.640 you talk before about trolls and stuff, I'm like, partly 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:25.640 I'm like, who can be bothered trolling in the face 0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:30.680 of what is objectively pure happiness? 0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:36.560 Yeah, still happens still people think, still think that our 0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:40.600 relationships fake, and we find that funny because God, we 0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:44.120 hang out all the time. Imagine having a pr relationship, 0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:46.359 having a hang out with each other all. 0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:51.279 And especially especially in Hollywood, because have you noticed as 0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:53.640 an Australian, I think part of the reason they love 0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:57.600 you is that you've got this really authentic, almost kind 0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:02.200 of old fashioned Australian energy, you know, Alarican and a 0:49:02.279 --> 0:49:06.319 bit relaxed and have alf instead of getting angry and 0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:10.719 being open, instead of closing the doors. So that to 0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:14.680 Hollywood must have been a shock. Yeah, I think. 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:18.200 I think honestly, just Krishelle not being with a man 0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:22.600 was the biggest shock. I think that really took Americans. 0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.640 And you know, a lot of the selling Sunset fan 0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:30.120 base isn't you know in states where it's you know, 0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:33.839 really common to have queer relationships, like Middle America's very 0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:37.879 like you know, the tradition. It's yeah, it's trad It's like, 0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:42.080 so it was really shocking to see her in a 0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.319 not with like a six foot man, you know, like 0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:49.120 it was it really made people crazy, and especially at 0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:52.440 that time when we came out public in a relationship 0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:57.759 like the dms and just the things that you just 0:49:58.279 --> 0:50:02.879 I just couldn't believe how much it affected people's days. Like, 0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:07.040 you know, there'd be Karen in Middle America just sweeping 0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:09.160 and then they'd be just so angry and then they'd 0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:11.279 have to get on their phone to like message me 0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:15.040 because they're just so furious that I'm with her. 0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:16.640 So yeah, it was. 0:50:16.719 --> 0:50:20.640 It was very eye opening to me about how people 0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:23.560 are homophobic or you know. 0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:29.040 Scared or fearful, fearful of things because I think fear 0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:31.680 and anger live kind of close to each other. 0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:36.480 Yeah, it was really interesting, and it still happens, to 0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:39.359 be honest, I'm still getting dms that people are so 0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:42.399 upset with my gender or that I'm with Koshelle, or 0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:45.759 that I'm queer, or you know, people are just they're 0:50:45.799 --> 0:50:49.480 angry at it. But it really just you know, in 0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.360 the end, it kind of does amuse me that someone 0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:55.480 is literally driving to the shops to buy some cereal 0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:58.160 and bread and milk and they just have to pull 0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:01.120 the car over to like message me how angry angry 0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:01.520 they are. 0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:04.080 Like what a crazy way to live? 0:51:04.279 --> 0:51:09.799 You know what, that you're just ticked off by someone existing, but. 0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:12.359 What you continue to do in the face of that 0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:18.799 is exist even more fully. Yeah. One, you know, I 0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:24.000 would never dull myself down. And by the way, on 0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:26.160 an unrelated note, I was also doing the project the 0:51:26.279 --> 0:51:29.959 night Krischelle came in, which was not long ago. Oh 0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:37.200 my goodness that the response to her was so beautiful, 0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:43.839 just so beautiful. Yeah, she's she's a great one. I know, 0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:47.479 I've really lucked out. She's an Arab one. 0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:53.560 When my family found out, like we're seriously going to 0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:55.799 be together, it wasn't just like a little fling. They 0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:59.279 all cried. They were like because they just thought she 0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:01.760 was the best person they ever met. 0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:06.080 So, you know, because Chrishelle's just spoken recently and I've 0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:09.879 heard you speak before too about and Krishelle's always been 0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:13.000 really open about the fact that she wants to have babies. Yes, 0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.399 and recently she came out and said that that wasn't 0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:18.600 working out so well. 0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:25.359 Yeah the last few years. To be honest, it's an IVF. 0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:29.040 It's been a real struggle and we've had so many gods, 0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:31.360 so many ups and downs, and for anyone that goes 0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:35.439 through that whole process, like it really takes a toll. 0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:39.960 And there's you know, hopeful moments and then sad moments, 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:41.480 and then there's a little bit of hope and then 0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:45.080 it all backfires and then it's going starting again. So yeah, 0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:50.040 it's definitely been uh and the hormones. The hormones are 0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:55.239 rough hormones. And the amount of needles, like it's crazy. 0:52:55.320 --> 0:53:00.680 And surgeries and she's such a baller though. Whenever Krishelle 0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:04.879 has surgeries or has to go through anything where the 0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:08.200 doctor might give you pain medication, majority of the time 0:53:08.279 --> 0:53:11.440 she doesn't even take the medication. She's just a baller, 0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:16.719 Like her pain tolerance is insane. Like, so she's such 0:53:16.759 --> 0:53:20.239 a tough cookie. And you know, I admire I admire 0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:23.440 just everything and how strong she is and how she's 0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:26.359 taking all, you know, the news that we get, and 0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:31.440 she's just she's so amazing and she's such a brilliant 0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:34.560 and strong human being for everything she's gone through, not 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:38.320 only with this whole process we're going through, but also 0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:40.920 her whole life, Like her story is pretty amazing. What 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:45.239 she's got through to get to where she has. Her 0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:49.680 childhood was nothing like you would think and it's completely 0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:53.600 the opposite. So I just admire everything about her and 0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:54.560 where she's come from. 0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:59.240 You're very yin and yang. You know, there's something together 0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:03.399 that's so whole with the two of you together. I 0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:07.960 hope you're I hope your every dream comes true together 0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:14.520 because you're delightful and individually. Thank you for your gift 0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:19.399 of music and really being a great ambassador for Australia, 0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:23.240 which life not every Australian is. But I truly believe 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:26.440 that your spirit and you get up and go is 0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:31.760 just glorious. That's very sweet. That's going to make me cry. 0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:36.040 The future is a big place. You have to narrow 0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:40.959 it down slightly to what is coming up. It's dream Ride. 0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:44.640 Yes, album's coming out September fifth. It's called dream Ride. 0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:49.040 It's a very eighties esque kind of album. I went 0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:53.200 really hard into the eighties world sonically with like big 0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:56.200 reverb on the drums and you know every drum is 0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:59.759 me playing it and a lot of sax solos and 0:54:59.840 --> 0:55:03.560 synth solos. And yeah, I'm really excited to release this 0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:05.200 record on fifth. 0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:07.200 We look forward to seeing you very much. 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:11.880 Yes, So I'm coming back to Australia late feb and 0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:16.239 March to play shows in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and 0:55:16.279 --> 0:55:19.280 Perth and I can't wait to come and play shows. 0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:22.279 Playing shows is my favorite part about my job, and 0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:24.319 I spend a lot of time trying to make my 0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:27.200 live show as good as possible, and I've been working 0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:29.520 on it the last week and yeah, it's going to 0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:31.960 be a ripper. So I can't wait and hope hopefully 0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:33.239 some people come out to see me. 0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:35.720 It's going to be good. Oh I think they will. 0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:41.200 Jenny's brother comes to my shows and they have a 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:45.680 little girl who's a huge g Flip fan, their little daughter, 0:55:45.759 --> 0:55:50.000 so Jenny's niece, so it's very, very cute. And my 0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:53.520 last show I played in Melbourne, Jenny's brow and his 0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:55.640 wife came to that show and they gave me a 0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:58.360 pair of Jenny's last drumsticks, which is really special. 0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:03.319 Sure really yeah, yeah, it was really nice. Ah. Just 0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:08.080 the power of a teacher, I know, And that's what 0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:09.920 made me want to be a drum teacher. 0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:12.760 So then I followed in her, and then when she passed, 0:56:12.799 --> 0:56:15.600 I took over a lot of her drum students as well. 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:19.879 And then you drop them to be Jefly now, and 0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:22.840 then I became Jeefly. Then I couldn't teach them anymore. 0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:27.640 But yeah, so yeah, Jenny's a big part and I 0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:30.120 have Jenny related tattoos all over my body too. 0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:35.279 You deserve everything good? And also what did you take? 0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:38.359 What do you take to Kara Delvine's party? What was 0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:41.560 in that big box? What was it? What was it? 0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:43.680 Do you want to know? 0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:48.040 Yeah? I was like, I was literally like, this is 0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:51.160 really funny. Kara in bind me the party and I 0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:53.040 texted her and I was like, I'm getting you. I'm 0:56:53.040 --> 0:56:55.560 going to get you a real strange present. She's like, 0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:57.200 I can't wait looking forward to it. 0:56:57.799 --> 0:56:58.480 And then I was. 0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:01.920 Thinking, what do you get a girl that has it all, like, 0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:03.000 she's got everything? 0:57:03.120 --> 0:57:04.000 What do you get her? 0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:07.280 And I was like, I bet she doesn't own bagpipes? 0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:19.680 So that photo were present, there's bagpipes in this Yeah, yeah. 0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:22.160 All right, I guarantee you something, and that is that 0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:25.320 U G Flip will learn to play them before she does. 0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:26.960 Do you know what? 0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:29.560 When I bought her the bagpipes, I might have bought 0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:31.400 myself some bagpipes too. 0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:34.960 Yeah, but she loved them. She thought they were great. 0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:39.880 Oh that's great, that's great. Well, god speed to you. 0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:44.280 Thanks for joining us on No Filter. Thank you for 0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:47.999 showing yourself nah, thank you so much, Kate. 0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:51.720 I remember driving from Dingley Village to Cheltenham to go 0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:55.920 to school every morning and listening to you in the car, 0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:59.760 and your voice has always been such a calming, warm energy. 0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:02.280 So that's why I tear up, because you're like always 0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:03.320 grown up with you at round. 0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:08.959 So I love it. Love you, Kate. Okay, I love 0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:16.360 you too, Kate. I think to know g Flip is 0:58:16.400 --> 0:58:21.520 to love g Flip because, like I said to them 0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:27.040 in our chat, there's something quintessentially Australian about them, a 0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:30.640 sense of mischief, a sense of joy, a sense of 0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:39.520 She'll be right, but also so cool, so themselves, so talented. 0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:44.200 G Flip has really done it all, from chart chopping 0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:50.560 jams to the emotional rollercoaster of IVF. They fell hard 0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:53.560 and fast for Chrishelle along the way and are really 0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:57.400 making it work. And I think there's magic in someone 0:58:57.440 --> 0:59:01.880 who lives their life full volume and flips the script 0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:06.520 at every turn, or should I say the script. 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