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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Hello, I'm Kate Langbrook

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Speaker 1: and welcome to No Filter. So this summer we've curated

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Speaker 1: a special No Filter playlist, unmissible conversations with extraordinary Australians

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Speaker 1: whose stories remind us of what authenticity, or courage or

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Speaker 1: love really look like. And today we're bringing you one

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Speaker 1: of the most joyful, the most honest, the incredible g flip.

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Speaker 1: GE's about to kick off their massive Australian tour in February,

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Speaker 1: returning home to play the songs that are taking them

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Speaker 1: around the world. But behind the music is a story

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Speaker 1: about identity, drive and the kind of love that changes everything.

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Speaker 1: G opens up about growing up in Melbourne, losing their

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Speaker 1: beloved drum teacher, finding their sound, falling in love with

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Speaker 1: this selling Sunset star Krishelle Staus and how the two

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Speaker 1: of them are heading into the new year with big

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Speaker 1: life changes and even bigger dreams. This is g flip raw, funny,

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Speaker 1: beautifully unfiltered g flip.

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Speaker 2: The last few years. To be honest, it's an IVF.

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Speaker 2: It's been a real struggle and we've had so many

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Speaker 2: ups and downs, and for anyone that goes through that

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Speaker 2: whole process, like hopeful moments and then sad moments, and

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Speaker 2: then there's a little bit of hope, and then it

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Speaker 2: all backfires and then it's going starting again.

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to No Filter. I'm kateline Brook and

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Speaker 1: today we're diving into the world of g Flip and

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Speaker 1: what a world it is. G Flip is one of

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Speaker 1: Australia's most exciting boundary pushing musicians, and from their breakout

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Speaker 1: hits to life behind the scenes, g shares the moments

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Speaker 1: that shape their journey from the highs of touring and

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Speaker 1: performing too very personal stories of love, relationships and family.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, we hear about the chance encounter that

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Speaker 1: led to meeting Krishelle Staus, how their friendship turned into love,

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Speaker 1: and what it's really like navigating life and relationships in

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Speaker 1: the very public eye. Plus, g Flip opens up about

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Speaker 1: the challenges of IVF, the joy of celebrating love with

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Speaker 1: annual weddings, and how they stay true to themselves no

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Speaker 1: matter what the world throws at them. This is g

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Speaker 1: flip raw unfiltered, and I think you'll find utterly captivating.

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Speaker 1: G flip Yell you straddle continents. Do I love a straddle?

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Speaker 1: I love estratu. But you're with us now. So you're

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Speaker 1: in Sydney. I'm in Melbourne, I'm in your hometown. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I was just there yesterday. And what were you doing here?

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Speaker 1: I flew in yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to fly in and have a day

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Speaker 2: sometimes I will fly into Melbourne just for a few

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Speaker 1: So how was that. What did you do? Were you

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Speaker 2: Or Yeah, so just at my place in Melbourne and

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Speaker 1: And that's what I do. And how often are you

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Speaker 1: What was it about LA that was calling you?

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Speaker 2: So my drums was my first instrument in my first love.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've never had a neighbor that likes me until

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Speaker 2: I guess the last two years at Chrishelle's moving into

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Speaker 1: Yes, because it's a I mean, it's not it's not

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Speaker 2: No, he moved out when I kind of moved out

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Speaker 1: So yeah, oh that's annoying. That's really annoying because you

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Speaker 2: He's like some people are like, I hope my ex

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Speaker 1: It was this weird obsession I had.

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Speaker 2: and then I think it started to form that I

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Speaker 1: Is just as well because I mean, AI hasn't overtaken

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Speaker 1: thing called Uber that has meant that a lot of

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Speaker 1: And so when you talk to drumming, did you allow

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was always in me, and I like really

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Speaker 2: It was the only thing that I could stay still

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Speaker 1: versus what makes that happen. Yeah, and your work ethic

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Speaker 2: But Yeah, even with those auditions, I would practice, rehearse

440
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: everything that they were going to even ask me. So

441
00:25:32,879 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 2: I'd thought about every possible question they could ask me.

442
00:25:36,679 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: So I had rehearsed, sharp, perfected answers. And even when

443
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: i'd audition for bands you'd have to audition three songs,

444
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: I'd learn their entire catalog just in case and backing vocals,

445
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: so that when i'd go into an audition, I could

446
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: be like, Hey, you've played those three songs all day.

447
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 2: How about we played this song or that song or

448
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: that song. So I think for me, I've always over prepared,

449
00:26:01,879 --> 00:26:05,759
Speaker 2: like so so so much that it's like if I

450
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: did an audition like it'd be really hard to turn

451
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: me down. So even with my career, I did absolutely

452
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: just everything possible. So it felt like I'd open the

453
00:26:17,399 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 2: door in so many avenues that at least one of

454
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: the routes is going to work.

455
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: Because I always think there's so many ways to fuck

456
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: yourself up, and there's so many ways that the external

457
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: world can trip you up as well. You don't need

458
00:26:31,879 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: to trip yourself up through lack of preparation. No, no, yeah,

459
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: And at what point did you go did you start

460
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: to feel the momentum of all of that coming together.

461
00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: So you're singing, you're drumming, you've got the call to America.

462
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: Was there a moment where you went, oh, I think,

463
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: I think g Flip's going to do this.

464
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, there was definitely one defining moment.

465
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,039
Speaker 1: So after I.

466
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: Left that last band, I gave myself one year to

467
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,999
Speaker 2: basically find management or a label. And I had no

468
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: connections in the Australian music scene, but I gave myself

469
00:27:24,679 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: about a year to figure it out. So I made

470
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: Excel spreadsheets of the whole music industry in Australia. I

471
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: had everyone's details from Triple J all the booking agents,

472
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: Spotify playlisters, and I made this insane spreadsheet of the

473
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 2: whole music industry, and then I would I was just

474
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: I was so relentless. I was just insane, and I

475
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: wanted to write my hit list of who I wanted

476
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: to be, my publicist and my booking agent. And then

477
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: I wrote as many wrote and produced as many songs

478
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: in my bedroom and it's all I thought about.

479
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: For a year.

480
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: I went sober, I didn't really see my friends. All

481
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: my friends would come over on the weekend and help

482
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: me make my spreadsheets.

483
00:28:04,639 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 1: Was very cute of them crafting.

484
00:28:07,639 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 2: And then it was I started going to all these

485
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: in the Australian music scene. They have like Music Week

486
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: in Melbourne, and they have Music Week in Sydney, and

487
00:28:18,639 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: you'd go listen to managers and labels talk about the industry.

488
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: And I would go there and my whole plan was

489
00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: that I'm going to talk to that manager afterwards and

490
00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: give him my demos, and I'm going to talk to

491
00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: that booking agent and learn more about the industry.

492
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: And I was just so obsessed with it.

493
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: And then this one manager, I walked up and said, Hey,

494
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 2: you should listen to my demos. I'm like Dave Grohl

495
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: from Nirvana, played drums in a band, but now I'm

496
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: a lead singer and I write the music. And you're

497
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: going to love my demos if you give me a shot,

498
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: just have a listen. And he looked at me and said,

499
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: your confidence is so crazy. I'm actually going to listen

500
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: to your demos. And then he listened to the demos

501
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: and then sent me a message and said, hey, come

502
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: to my office Monday morning. And then I remember just

503
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: driving my car and calling my dad and being like

504
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: holy shit, like holy shit, and I'd worked the whole

505
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: year to the point and I got my database and

506
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: I was about to blast email everyone but my demos,

507
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: but then that one manager heard it first and then

508
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 2: he wanted to sign me for management and label.

509
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: So then I took his name.

510
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 2: And then I messaged as many people as I could

511
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 2: in the Australian music industry and said he wants to

512
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: sign me, so you should listen to my demos. And

513
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: then everyone that I sent them listened to my demos.

514
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: And then I just got to meet heaps of different

515
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: people in the music industry and kind of.

516
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: Pick my turn yourself into a bidding war.

517
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: I did yeah, Wow, yeah, And then that all happened,

518
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: and at the same time I had my first single

519
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 2: about You that and I was obsessed with Triple J

520
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: on Earth to this platform, and I was a super user.

521
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: I was so obsessed with that I would write reviews

522
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: because I knew at some stage I'm going to have

523
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: a single and I want to have a direct contact

524
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: that I can give my song to them. Because this

525
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: was about this is how my brain works.

526
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: I wanted every.

527
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: Avenue to work, so even the Triple J thing, I

528
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: was a super user. And then Max Quinn, I had

529
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: his email and this doesn't mean that you get on

530
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: the air, but it means you just have the email

531
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: of the guy that works at Triple Jay on Earth

532
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: for me to just send him and be like, hey,

533
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: I uploaded a song today.

534
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: And then it was this was the day that.

535
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: To answer your question, that I remember everything feeling like,

536
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: holy shit, I think it's going to work. Is that

537
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 2: song that I uploaded to Triple Jay on Earth blew up?

538
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: And then went on the air on Triple J and

539
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: started going psycho online. And then I remember going to

540
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: bed that night and I've documented all of this, actually

541
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: all of this story, I'm telling.

542
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: You the christ.

543
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's real life videos of me talking about it,

544
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: but I have a video of me going to sleep

545
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 2: that night and being like, holy shit, I don't think

546
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to have to, you know, teach drum lessons anymore.

547
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: And I don't think I'm going to have to hand

548
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: out pamphlets at rod Laver Arena anymore. Like I think

549
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm I think I've made it. Even though it was

550
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: just the first I just got a spin. But it

551
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: just made me think that, oh, I think I'm going

552
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: to be okay here and I'm going to be able

553
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: to do this for the rest of my life.

554
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,039
Speaker 1: So did you send a little preyer up to Jenny

555
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: at that time?

556
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Obviously Jenny's always in the back of my head.

557
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: And when the song came out, it was actually it

558
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: was on her birthday. Oh really yeah, oh really see

559
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: that I get these two confusis when she passed words

560
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: on her birthday, but those dates vercant. Yeah, that was

561
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: pretty special. And yeah, and then I just woke up

562
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: and then everything changed and I had to message all

563
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: because I was teaching drum students in my bedroom and

564
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: I had to message them all and say I'm so sorry,

565
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: I won't be able to teach all of you anymore.

566
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: Well, you dragged them straight away. Yeah, my life changed

567
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: the next day. Wow, And like when you say changed,

568
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: what did that look like? Gigs or appointments or sessions.

569
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: So my song went viral online and it hadn't even

570
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: been released yet. It was just on Triple J on

571
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,759
Speaker 2: the website, so it wasn't even a release song. I

572
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: just uploaded it to the website platform. But overnight it

573
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: went global and it became Pitchfork's Best New Song, which

574
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: is like a big deal in the US. And then

575
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: I started getting gig offers at south By Southwest in Texas,

576
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: which was in two weeks time, so I had two

577
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: weeks to find a band and then play my first show,

578
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: which luckily, I'm such a freak and I prepared my

579
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,999
Speaker 2: whole entire show already, so I was ready for that

580
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: exact moment, because if I hadn't planned it all out first,

581
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: I would have been in trouble. But I already had

582
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: my show and my band members and thought exactly about

583
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: what my live show would be. So then two weeks

584
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: later from there, I was in the States and playing

585
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: my very first show, and that was that your.

586
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: First time in the States. No, I'd been in the

587
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: States before drumming for other bands, right, but in your

588
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: own right.

589
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first time being g G Flip And then yeah,

590
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: I had my first show as g Flip and yeah.

591
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: Then it began and it never stopped. No, it never stopped.

592
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: And then concurrently with that, because I do believe that

593
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: when as an artist, particularly, the more that you can

594
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: step into yourself, the more everything else blossoms. Yeah, and

595
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: so often those things that you grapple with about yourself

596
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: or that you think you can't share are the very

597
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: things that give you that are the wind in your wings.

598
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: So with your I don't know, do you say self

599
00:34:35,759 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: discovery or your revelations about yourself or your non binary thing,

600
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: your what was the compulsion then that you went, I

601
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: just need to share this with the famous Hey motherfuckers,

602
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm non binary.

603
00:34:52,759 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess. I was overtly queer and I

604
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: had multiple partners that I'd write songs about, and you know,

605
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: my music videos they were very queer leaning. And then

606
00:35:07,759 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: just as I evolved as a human being, I learned

607
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: about what being and I would see like Sam Smith

608
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: and Demi Levado at the time, and people would come

609
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: out non binary, and I educated myself on what that was,

610
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: and then I remember like really reading and understanding it

611
00:35:27,799 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: and then being like, oh, oh my god, that's like

612
00:35:32,799 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: so me to a t. And then when I would

613
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: try to explain being non binary to my friends or

614
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: family members, then I would kind of use myself as

615
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: an example, and it just felt it's just so me.

616
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: I just feel so.

617
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: Non binary, and if you don't get it, it's because

618
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: you're probably not non binary. Like I just feel so

619
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: like a blend of genders. I just feel like the

620
00:35:58,799 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 2: most gender smoothie motherfucker ever. And I felt like that

621
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: from a very young age. I'd look at myself in

622
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: the mirror and I'd be like because I went to

623
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: Catholic school, and I'd be like, wow, God, really he

624
00:36:12,799 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: ran out of girl insides and brain and I think

625
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: he just put a bit of boy brain or insides

626
00:36:20,759 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: in me, because I'd feel like a mix. And I'm

627
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 2: like seven years old, eight years old thinking that, and

628
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,479
Speaker 2: then to me like, that's the most non binary thing,

629
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: for most non binary thing for seven year old to think.

630
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: That that God made you that way.

631
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously then there was no vocabulary for being

632
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 2: non binary, Like I didn't know that was a thing.

633
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: But I look back on my childhood and it just it.

634
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: Being non binary makes so much sense I've always felt,

635
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: and for every non binary person, it's different where you

636
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: fall on the spectrum. But I feel pretty fifty to

637
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: fifty in the middle of like female male, mix of gender,

638
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: and that's the best way I can describe it. That's

639
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: just who I am, and I don't know how to

640
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: change it. So when people get in my DMS being hectic, it's.

641
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: Yes, can't change this. Yes, when you told your family

642
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: didn't make the same sense to them, or to your mom,

643
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: or to your dad, or to your sister. Who who

644
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: of them was the one that was like, yeah, I

645
00:37:25,759 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: see that the most, Probably my sister the most.

646
00:37:30,799 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: I feel like my mom and dad kind of didn't

647
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: understand it because it was quite a while ago. Now

648
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: so I feel like now they're so educated on it

649
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: because I'm their kid, but back then they did struggle

650
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: to understand pronouns and just figure out And I feel

651
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: like for that age group, like they're in their early sixties,

652
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: so it is kind of harder. But for them to

653
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: grapple the idea of it.

654
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: I saw your dad do a cute thing actually on

655
00:38:02,279 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: Sixty Minutes where he said sometimes I miss GenEd them. Yeah,

656
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: and I thought that what that is? You just ask

657
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: for people to rise to meet you.

658
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, it's you know, and it's kind of a

659
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: respect thing.

660
00:38:16,759 --> 00:38:18,999
Speaker 1: It's like, that's what I go by.

661
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: And like, even if you stuff it up and completely

662
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: fail and stuff up my pronouns, as long as you're like,

663
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: oh fuck, sorry, G and then you correct yourself or

664
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: just correct yourself, like so many of my mates will

665
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: accidentally say she and then be like they and then

666
00:38:34,279 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: just keep talking and you know, it's it's normal.

667
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: After this short break, g Flip takes us inside their

668
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: relationship with wife Krishelle. Don't go anywhere. How was your

669
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: meeting with Krishelle? Because at that point, so she's a

670
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: massive star in the States. Yes, selling Sunset. She's had

671
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: romantic entanglements on that show. She's been doing it for

672
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: so long. There's no secrets about her life. Really no.

673
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: And then you two meet, you meet at a party.

674
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, our first meet was at a Halloween party that

675
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: tones and I.

676
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: Had, Ah, what was your costume?

677
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: I was a skeleton, and so was Chrishelle. Oh really,

678
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,959
Speaker 2: so that's why we have a thing with skeletons, since

679
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 2: I've got skeletons tattooed on my arms and our wedding

680
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 2: rings have skeletons on them. Oh so, yeah, we met.

681
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: She was a really hot skeleton. I got my my

682
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: I literally found like some eyeliner pencil and just like

683
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: blacked my eyes out and found like a kid's T

684
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: shirt from Target that had bones on it and run

685
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: it sleeves off. So I was a fifteen buck skeleton.

686
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 2: She was like, I really put together good looking skeleton.

687
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: Well, she is a very good looking skeleton. She's yeah,

688
00:40:10,279 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: she's insane looking. And from the moment you met the skeletons, like,

689
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: what was that moment you were introduced to each other,

690
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: or you went up and you talked to her, or

691
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: she came up to you. Can you remember your encounter,

692
00:40:25,759 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: your skeleton encounter.

693
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, first time we met was one of Tone's best mates,

694
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: Talia was at the front of this venue and.

695
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, gee, come over meet Michelle.

696
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: And then I was like all right, and then I

697
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,999
Speaker 2: just came over and we shook hands and I said hey,

698
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: and she said hey, and then I was like, like,

699
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 2: you're real, like a really good looking skeleton and I'm

700
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: not so good looking skeleton. But it wasn't like romantic

701
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: or anything. It was just like a friend group meeting

702
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: a friend group. It wasn't till like six months later

703
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,519
Speaker 2: or something that then some barks flu yeah.

704
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Which is was I mean, probably more straightforward for you

705
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: m at that time than it was for her because

706
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: she didn't think that she was gonna be a lesbian

707
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: or no. Right, she was straight as far as she knew,

708
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: and maybe Stille's but loves who she loves.

709
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't really know what to call herself, Like

710
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: the word is really pan sexual, and when you're pans sexual,

711
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: you're just attracted to energy. It's not really a gender,

712
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: it's the person. But she personally hates the word pansants.

713
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: It is it's sort of hard to casually toss toss

714
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: that in.

715
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a kind of ugly word. So she's like, no,

716
00:41:55,759 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to identify as that. So she just

717
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: says like she falls in love with energy and people

718
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: and who they are, and I guess you know that's

719
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: the case with us, And yeah, we've been together now

720
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: over three years.

721
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,999
Speaker 1: And that's amazing because I love I've heard you tell

722
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 1: the story about when you asked her out after you'd

723
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: had a couple of you know, encounters, and she said,

724
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, yeah'm straight.

725
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: Yes she did, but you were like, I just thought, well,

726
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: we haven't been been very straight together recently, That's what

727
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 2: I thought, Like the last few times we've had little

728
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: kisses here and there that wasn't very straight darling, But yeah,

729
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: that's what I thought.

730
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: But I just said, oh, okay, no worries.

731
00:42:48,799 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: And then a few like a week after, I sent

732
00:42:52,799 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: her some houses that I was because she's a real

733
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: estate agent and I was going to try rent a

734
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: house in La after tour my tour finished. So I

735
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: sent her some houses and I was like, is this

736
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: a good price range for where it is and the

737
00:43:06,759 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: location and whatever? And then she offered to come and

738
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: look at the houses with me. And then that was

739
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: our first date.

740
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: A did you know at the time it was a

741
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,479
Speaker 1: date or it was only in retrospect?

742
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: I think I knew it was a because yeah, in

743
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: my head, she just told me she was straight and

744
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: not interested. And then when I rocked up to the house,

745
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: I was in the car, and I looked out the

746
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: window and saw her walking down the road to the house,

747
00:43:41,279 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 2: and she was like adjusting her face makeup or something

748
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: and looking incredible, Like I knew she'd taken time to

749
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: get ready. And she remembers, like in her words, she

750
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: would say like when she was getting ready that day,

751
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 2: she was getting ready like she was going to meet

752
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: someone that she had a crush on, Like took that

753
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: extra time and tried on different dress. No, not this,

754
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: And so then that's kind of when it clicked in

755
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: her brain. And I think it clicked in mind because

756
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: I was looking at like her walking down the street

757
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: looking like an absolute fox, and then also just like

758
00:44:19,279 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 2: she was doing something like putting lip stuff on or something.

759
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: And then we were just at this house showing and

760
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: we were just flirted the whole time, and then it

761
00:44:29,279 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: never the flirting never.

762
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: Ended, and it still hasn't ended, even though now you're

763
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: an old married couple. Yeah.

764
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do a wedding once a year. We reknew

765
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 2: our vows. It kind of started because our first wedding

766
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: was so shotgun. We married after three months kind of dating,

767
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: which I think a lot of the world think we

768
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: got married like a year later when really we.

769
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: Got We kept it a secret.

770
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: Because yeah, we got married like three months after we

771
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: started fully kind of dating. And then obviously we called

772
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: our family and we decided the day of because we

773
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: worked out we both had the day off the next day,

774
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: so then we ended up deciding to go to Vegas

775
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: and get married. Anyway, we called all our friends and

776
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: family and they were all kind of like, what do

777
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: you mean, Like they were very happy for us, but

778
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: they were sad they were missing it. So we said,

779
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: don't worry, we're going to do another one. Like so,

780
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: then we're going to do another one. So then the

781
00:45:33,759 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: next one was in Palm Springs so that our friends

782
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: in LA could come, and then my family's like, but

783
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: we can't make it, so.

784
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, okay, we'll do another one.

785
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: So then we did another one in Australia with all

786
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: my family, and then this year we had other friends

787
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: that missed out, so then we were like, okay, we'll

788
00:45:49,799 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: do it.

789
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: And then it just became the Wedding World Tour.

790
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: So now we do a wedding every year, and you know,

791
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: we're covering the base of a big wedding, which we

792
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: probably that most people have with over one hundred guests.

793
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: We're just slowly getting to all one hundred World War

794
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: ten at a time. Yes, and what like your last one?

795
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Was it it was medieval? Was it then medieval? And

796
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: you aren't? Were you a knight? I don't know, I was, Yeah,

797
00:46:18,279 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: what were you? Was it a costume shop or was it? No?

798
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: So arn't directed?

799
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, So all our weddings are planned one week

800
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 2: in advance or less because our whole thing with weddings

801
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: is we don't want to be stressed because we hate

802
00:46:34,759 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: stress for weddings and it should be about love.

803
00:46:37,799 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: So everything is so last minute planned.

804
00:46:40,799 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: So really I had to just look on Amazon and

805
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: see what could get delivered in time, and I bought.

806
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: What was the description? What was the description of the costume?

807
00:46:53,759 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: Some like Renaissance medieval royal coat?

808
00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

809
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: And then and then I bought a sort I like

810
00:47:02,759 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: the thought of having a sword that was called so

811
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 2: I bought a foam sword and a sword holder. And

812
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: then I wore some of Kroshelle's like leggings from her

813
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: fitness and then I just wore these boots that I'm

814
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: wearing right now.

815
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: It was gorgeous. It was a bit Zelderish too.

816
00:47:20,759 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a bit fantasy, and we're not like

817
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: into that stuff. It was kind of a joke, like

818
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: it was a week out from when we're meant to

819
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: be getting married, because we always have to do it

820
00:47:31,799 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 2: in July, and I think it was Kroshelle was just like,

821
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: what was if we did a medieval wedding, and I

822
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 2: just looked at it. I was like, oh my god,

823
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: that's so funny, like we should get a loop player,

824
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 2: and then ks like we should get people who fight

825
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: with swords, and we just were making each other laugh.

826
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 2: And then we happened to look on Airbnb and there

827
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: was a castle around the corner that you could hire

828
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: just as an Airbnb. So then we were like, all right,

829
00:47:58,759 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: let's book it, and then let's find some people to

830
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: fight with some swords.

831
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: You jousted jousted like you've verally jousted, and in fact,

832
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: the relationship between the two of you is very lovely,

833
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: and the happiness between you is you know, it's when

834
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: you talk before about trolls and stuff, I'm like, partly

835
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, who can be bothered trolling in the face

836
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: of what is objectively pure happiness?

837
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, still happens still people think, still think that our

838
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: relationships fake, and we find that funny because God, we

839
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: hang out all the time. Imagine having a pr relationship,

840
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 2: having a hang out with each other all.

841
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: And especially especially in Hollywood, because have you noticed as

842
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: an Australian, I think part of the reason they love

843
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: you is that you've got this really authentic, almost kind

844
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: of old fashioned Australian energy, you know, Alarican and a

845
00:49:02,279 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: bit relaxed and have alf instead of getting angry and

846
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: being open, instead of closing the doors. So that to

847
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: Hollywood must have been a shock. Yeah, I think.

848
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: I think honestly, just Krishelle not being with a man

849
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: was the biggest shock. I think that really took Americans.

850
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: And you know, a lot of the selling Sunset fan

851
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: base isn't you know in states where it's you know,

852
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 2: really common to have queer relationships, like Middle America's very

853
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 2: like you know, the tradition. It's yeah, it's trad It's like,

854
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: so it was really shocking to see her in a

855
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: not with like a six foot man, you know, like

856
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: it was it really made people crazy, and especially at

857
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: that time when we came out public in a relationship

858
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: like the dms and just the things that you just

859
00:49:58,279 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: I just couldn't believe how much it affected people's days. Like,

860
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: you know, there'd be Karen in Middle America just sweeping

861
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: and then they'd be just so angry and then they'd

862
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: have to get on their phone to like message me

863
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: because they're just so furious that I'm with her.

864
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was.

865
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: It was very eye opening to me about how people

866
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: are homophobic or you know.

867
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: Scared or fearful, fearful of things because I think fear

868
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: and anger live kind of close to each other.

869
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really interesting, and it still happens, to

870
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 2: be honest, I'm still getting dms that people are so

871
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 2: upset with my gender or that I'm with Koshelle, or

872
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: that I'm queer, or you know, people are just they're

873
00:50:45,799 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: angry at it. But it really just you know, in

874
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: the end, it kind of does amuse me that someone

875
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: is literally driving to the shops to buy some cereal

876
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: and bread and milk and they just have to pull

877
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: the car over to like message me how angry angry

878
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: they are.

879
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: Like what a crazy way to live?

880
00:51:04,279 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: You know what, that you're just ticked off by someone existing, but.

881
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: What you continue to do in the face of that

882
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: is exist even more fully. Yeah. One, you know, I

883
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: would never dull myself down. And by the way, on

884
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: an unrelated note, I was also doing the project the

885
00:51:26,279 --> 00:51:29,959
Speaker 1: night Krischelle came in, which was not long ago. Oh

886
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: my goodness that the response to her was so beautiful,

887
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: just so beautiful. Yeah, she's she's a great one. I know,

888
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,479
Speaker 1: I've really lucked out. She's an Arab one.

889
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: When my family found out, like we're seriously going to

890
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: be together, it wasn't just like a little fling. They

891
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: all cried. They were like because they just thought she

892
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 2: was the best person they ever met.

893
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: So, you know, because Chrishelle's just spoken recently and I've

894
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: heard you speak before too about and Krishelle's always been

895
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: really open about the fact that she wants to have babies. Yes,

896
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: and recently she came out and said that that wasn't

897
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: working out so well.

898
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: Yeah the last few years. To be honest, it's an IVF.

899
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: It's been a real struggle and we've had so many gods,

900
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: so many ups and downs, and for anyone that goes

901
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 2: through that whole process, like it really takes a toll.

902
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: And there's you know, hopeful moments and then sad moments,

903
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: and then there's a little bit of hope and then

904
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: it all backfires and then it's going starting again. So yeah,

905
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: it's definitely been uh and the hormones. The hormones are

906
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 2: rough hormones. And the amount of needles, like it's crazy.

907
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: And surgeries and she's such a baller though. Whenever Krishelle

908
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 2: has surgeries or has to go through anything where the

909
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: doctor might give you pain medication, majority of the time

910
00:53:08,279 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: she doesn't even take the medication. She's just a baller,

911
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: Like her pain tolerance is insane. Like, so she's such

912
00:53:16,759 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 2: a tough cookie. And you know, I admire I admire

913
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: just everything and how strong she is and how she's

914
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: taking all, you know, the news that we get, and

915
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: she's just she's so amazing and she's such a brilliant

916
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: and strong human being for everything she's gone through, not

917
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 2: only with this whole process we're going through, but also

918
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: her whole life, Like her story is pretty amazing. What

919
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: she's got through to get to where she has. Her

920
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: childhood was nothing like you would think and it's completely

921
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: the opposite. So I just admire everything about her and

922
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: where she's come from.

923
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 1: You're very yin and yang. You know, there's something together

924
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: that's so whole with the two of you together. I

925
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: hope you're I hope your every dream comes true together

926
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: because you're delightful and individually. Thank you for your gift

927
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 1: of music and really being a great ambassador for Australia,

928
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: which life not every Australian is. But I truly believe

929
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: that your spirit and you get up and go is

930
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: just glorious. That's very sweet. That's going to make me cry.

931
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: The future is a big place. You have to narrow

932
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,959
Speaker 1: it down slightly to what is coming up. It's dream Ride.

933
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: Yes, album's coming out September fifth. It's called dream Ride.

934
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: It's a very eighties esque kind of album. I went

935
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: really hard into the eighties world sonically with like big

936
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: reverb on the drums and you know every drum is

937
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: me playing it and a lot of sax solos and

938
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: synth solos. And yeah, I'm really excited to release this

939
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: record on fifth.

940
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: We look forward to seeing you very much.

941
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: Yes, So I'm coming back to Australia late feb and

942
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: March to play shows in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and

943
00:55:16,279 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 2: Perth and I can't wait to come and play shows.

944
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: Playing shows is my favorite part about my job, and

945
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: I spend a lot of time trying to make my

946
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: live show as good as possible, and I've been working

947
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: on it the last week and yeah, it's going to

948
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: be a ripper. So I can't wait and hope hopefully

949
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 2: some people come out to see me.

950
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 1: It's going to be good. Oh I think they will.

951
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: Jenny's brother comes to my shows and they have a

952
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: little girl who's a huge g Flip fan, their little daughter,

953
00:55:45,759 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: so Jenny's niece, so it's very, very cute. And my

954
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 2: last show I played in Melbourne, Jenny's brow and his

955
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: wife came to that show and they gave me a

956
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: pair of Jenny's last drumsticks, which is really special.

957
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: Sure really yeah, yeah, it was really nice. Ah. Just

958
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: the power of a teacher, I know, And that's what

959
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: made me want to be a drum teacher.

960
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 2: So then I followed in her, and then when she passed,

961
00:56:12,799 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: I took over a lot of her drum students as well.

962
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: And then you drop them to be Jefly now, and

963
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: then I became Jeefly. Then I couldn't teach them anymore.

964
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, so yeah, Jenny's a big part and I

965
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: have Jenny related tattoos all over my body too.

966
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: You deserve everything good? And also what did you take?

967
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: What do you take to Kara Delvine's party? What was

968
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: in that big box? What was it? What was it?

969
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: Do you want to know?

970
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was like, I was literally like, this is

971
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: really funny. Kara in bind me the party and I

972
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: texted her and I was like, I'm getting you. I'm

973
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: going to get you a real strange present. She's like,

974
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: I can't wait looking forward to it.

975
00:56:57,799 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: And then I was.

976
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: Thinking, what do you get a girl that has it all, like,

977
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: she's got everything?

978
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: What do you get her?

979
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 2: And I was like, I bet she doesn't own bagpipes?

980
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: So that photo were present, there's bagpipes in this Yeah, yeah.

981
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: All right, I guarantee you something, and that is that

982
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: U G Flip will learn to play them before she does.

983
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: Do you know what?

984
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: When I bought her the bagpipes, I might have bought

985
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: myself some bagpipes too.

986
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she loved them. She thought they were great.

987
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's great, that's great. Well, god speed to you.

988
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on No Filter. Thank you for

989
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,999
Speaker 1: showing yourself nah, thank you so much, Kate.

990
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: I remember driving from Dingley Village to Cheltenham to go

991
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: to school every morning and listening to you in the car,

992
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: and your voice has always been such a calming, warm energy.

993
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: So that's why I tear up, because you're like always

994
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: grown up with you at round.

995
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 1: So I love it. Love you, Kate. Okay, I love

996
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: you too, Kate. I think to know g Flip is

997
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: to love g Flip because, like I said to them

998
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: in our chat, there's something quintessentially Australian about them, a

999
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: sense of mischief, a sense of joy, a sense of

1000
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: She'll be right, but also so cool, so themselves, so talented.

1001
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: G Flip has really done it all, from chart chopping

1002
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: jams to the emotional rollercoaster of IVF. They fell hard

1003
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: and fast for Chrishelle along the way and are really

1004
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: making it work. And I think there's magic in someone

1005
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: who lives their life full volume and flips the script

1006
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: at every turn, or should I say the script. Make

1007
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: sure you subscribe to No Filter, because the world needs

1008
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: more voices like this and we deserve to hear them.

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Speaker 1: senior producer is bree Player. Audio production is by Jacob Brown,

1011
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: and video editing is by Josh Green. This episode was

1012
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1013
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