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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to this bill, your daily pop

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Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm Cascenula Bitch and

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Speaker 2: coming up on the show today, Harry Styles has announced

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Speaker 2: new music and he's coming to Australia on his tour.

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Speaker 2: We have a bit of behind the scenes info on

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Speaker 2: his press rollout, plus how to get tickets if you

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Speaker 2: missed out in the presale. And Jamila Jamil and Blake

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Speaker 2: some of Jamila Jamil's texts about Blake Lively have been

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Speaker 2: released and we're going to get into this because there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of accusations against both of these women. But

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Speaker 2: first we have some TV news to kick us off.

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Speaker 3: One of our all time favorite series, White Lotus is

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Speaker 3: back for season four and we just want to give

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Speaker 3: you guys a couple of updates. We know that the

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Speaker 3: location was announced a couple of weeks ago. We haven't

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Speaker 3: do know it's going to be in the South of France.

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Speaker 3: But we do actually have some casting news.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's funny about the French location because there were

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Speaker 2: so many roomors remember this that it was happening in Australia,

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Speaker 2: and outlets were running that people were getting excited, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of people were kind of confirming it, people

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Speaker 2: like Tamensersock, who aren't involved in the White Lotus as

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Speaker 2: far as we know, involved in season four, but's in

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Speaker 2: that TV world, And so when it came out that

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Speaker 2: it was France, it was kind of like a roundabout

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Speaker 2: kind of way. Plus a lot of people thought that

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Speaker 2: Mike White might go more of like the creative the

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Speaker 2: show a more cold location because obviously we've had Hawaii,

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Speaker 2: we've had Italy or Sicily, we've had Thailand, and so

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Speaker 2: a lot of people were like, we just want a

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Speaker 2: white Lotus in the snow. Yeah, we're not getting that.

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Speaker 2: And one of the directors from HBO said that Mike

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Speaker 2: White doesn't want that.

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Speaker 4: He didn't go out and say it, but he was like,

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Speaker 4: he said that, but then he.

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Speaker 2: Kind of didn't explain why, but he was very much

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Speaker 2: like he wants it to be like in a warm location.

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Speaker 2: He just wouldn't want it to be in the cold.

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Speaker 4: He hates that.

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Speaker 2: And I just think that Mike White is reading the

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Speaker 2: room and he knows that we want to see some

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Speaker 2: people murdering other people in like three kins, Yeah, bikinis

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Speaker 5: Don't you think Kualia would be like the perfect location?

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Speaker 2: It would have been, and that's where they were going

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Speaker 2: to have it. I do believe they probably scouted that,

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Speaker 2: because I know they've gone scout different locations. There's lots

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Speaker 2: of different locations on the run board. But everyone who's

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Speaker 2: like this is like a hot tip. Every time a

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Speaker 2: White Lotus is about to be announced. Everyone who publicly

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Speaker 2: actually know NDAs in the inner circle. So maybe next

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Speaker 2: time for Australia.

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Speaker 3: Look if for those who aren't know a Qualia, it's

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Speaker 3: in Hamilton Island, beautiful like five star resort.

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Speaker 5: Is just it kind of fits that very perfectly.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah it would.

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Speaker 2: And since we know that Mike White has just detests

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Speaker 2: out of hot locations and he's going to come to Australia.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic love that. But we also have some casting announcements.

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Speaker 3: So our first one is Stephen John Coogan, who is

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Speaker 3: a very very established British comedian. You may know him

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Speaker 3: plays Octavius. That's where I knew him from.

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Speaker 4: That's a great movie. Ten out of ten.

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Speaker 2: That movie Night of the MWS is fantastic. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: sequel not is great. The first one a masterpiece.

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Speaker 4: Great, fantastic.

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Speaker 5: Alexander Ludwig from Vikings.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hot, wonderful. He feels like he's going to be

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Speaker 4: our resident beefcake. Yeah, he'll be the hot one.

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Speaker 2: Aj mccul oh, A lot of tweens just yelled at you.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, how do I say?

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Speaker 4: I think it is?

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Speaker 5: Who?

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Speaker 4: You can keep this in there? I don't know because

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Speaker 4: I've got it. I don't want to get riped. I

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Speaker 4: know this is. I think we're a little bit above

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Speaker 5: She was part of that badly.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever said their name correctly. Oh,

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Speaker 2: they're the sisters that had the TV show The Alien

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Speaker 2: and they had like they're like a singing duo, Ali

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Speaker 2: so what Hillary Duff was to us growing out? Ali

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Speaker 2: and aj were to like the Generation blow Us. I

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Speaker 2: Me and that's a great TV show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I apologize, I apologize, Please don't come for me.

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Speaker 4: Our final one is an Australian.

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Speaker 3: We have a slightly sort of unknown, fairly new actor

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Speaker 3: Caleb Johnte Edwards. He'll be joining the cast. I'm kind

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Speaker 2: Well, what we know is that the White Lotus does

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Speaker 2: have this power to really like especially people who have

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Speaker 4: So like they're the very coveted roles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Altely and it's also because it's this ensemble cast

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Speaker 4: So excited, Nana, Nana.

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Speaker 2: So last week, a number of text messages and emails

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Speaker 2: So before we go any further, I just thought I

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Speaker 2: But what it actually is is that Blake Lively filed

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Speaker 2: for sexual harassments. That's actually what the case is about.

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Speaker 2: In her allegations, she did say that Justin Baldoni and

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Speaker 2: So that's where right now. I just think it's important

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's really important because this has been in

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Speaker 4: Well, actually the core of.

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Speaker 2: The cases, yes, exactly. So now what's come into light

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Speaker 2: Jamila and Jamil also texted Jennifer Abel saying I've never

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, I want to make clear with this

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Speaker 5: This was a private text.

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Speaker 3: Message chain, and Jamilla has sort of made a TikTok

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Speaker 2: So when these text messages came out, and of course

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Speaker 2: Jamila Jamil calls Blake Lively a terrorist, like Jamala Jamil

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Speaker 4: So that all bubbled away for a full day.

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Speaker 2: And everyone was obviously checking Jamila's accounts when she would respond.

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Speaker 7: And I'm not talking about the case in the text messages.

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Speaker 1: Guess check the texts. Check the dates on the text

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Speaker 7: I was saying those things and a lawsuit coming to light.

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Speaker 2: Very nefarious why they've chosen to not reduct her name,

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Speaker 5: But this is the thing.

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Speaker 3: Challenge here is that when we're thinking about sexual assault allegations,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the kind of the really interesting thing

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and this is what I spend time and

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Speaker 3: I still struggle to see how this is relevant to

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Speaker 2: Hollywood belief to see how they email, to see how

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Speaker 2: they have conversations. How does Taylor Swift text her friend

440
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Speaker 2: when they're going through this huge thing, Like how did Matt,

441
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Speaker 2: Damon and Ben respond? What does Jamila Jamil say to

442
00:20:06,074 --> 00:20:08,833
Speaker 2: her best friend, who was also a publicist for one

443
00:20:08,874 --> 00:20:11,514
Speaker 2: of the biggest entertainment stories that has ever happened.

444
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Speaker 4: Like, it's so interesting.

445
00:20:12,714 --> 00:20:15,273
Speaker 3: It's because of that, you know, they're public persona versus

446
00:20:15,274 --> 00:20:17,474
Speaker 3: what they're like in private. It's a peak behind the curtain,

447
00:20:17,514 --> 00:20:20,314
Speaker 3: which is why people love it so much. Yeah. I

448
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Speaker 3: do kind of feel for Jamila because I do think

449
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Speaker 3: she is a target a lot of the time, and

450
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Speaker 3: because she is very outspoken. I don't agree with everything

451
00:20:31,994 --> 00:20:33,634
Speaker 3: she says, but you know, she's an outspoken woman.

452
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Speaker 5: She gets a lot of flack.

453
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Speaker 3: And I do think that this probably would have been calculated.

454
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, I mean at least calculated by all

455
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Speaker 2: the like TAMZ and Tableau journalists who trolled through all

456
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Speaker 2: the information to find the famous names. I think it's

457
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Speaker 2: interesting is like, I know this has probably shifted public

458
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Speaker 2: perception a little bit for Jamila and Blake in terms

459
00:20:53,274 --> 00:20:55,114
Speaker 2: of like some people have seen this and now they

460
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Speaker 2: like are angry at Jamila Jamil for being a bad feminist.

461
00:20:58,794 --> 00:21:02,073
Speaker 2: Some people have seen it and they're angry at Blake Lively,

462
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Speaker 2: like remembering things she was accused of or thinking she's

463
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Speaker 2: on a girl's girl. But for me, it hasn't really

464
00:21:06,674 --> 00:21:09,634
Speaker 2: moved the either way because I think it proves what

465
00:21:09,794 --> 00:21:11,834
Speaker 2: a lot of us have thought all along, and that's

466
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Speaker 2: like there's two truths that could be correct at the

467
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Speaker 2: same time, which is like Blake Lively could have handled

468
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Speaker 2: the press rollout of the movie very insensitively, and she

469
00:21:20,714 --> 00:21:23,434
Speaker 2: could have been sexually harassed allegedly. Yes, like those two

470
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Speaker 2: things could both be true. And I think that is

471
00:21:25,914 --> 00:21:28,434
Speaker 2: kind of where we've landed with this, Like it hasn't

472
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Speaker 2: moved the dial either way.

473
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Speaker 3: It's also interesting because you know, a huge part of

474
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Speaker 3: the conversation is around the power dynamics, and if we're

475
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Speaker 3: thinking about power dynamics between Jamilla and Blake, just in

476
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Speaker 3: terms of the public perception before this whole court case,

477
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Speaker 3: I would say that Blake Lively would be in a

478
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Speaker 3: much higher position of power in terms of her standing

479
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Speaker 3: in Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, standing in Hollywood, Yes, public perception. I mean Blake

481
00:21:54,434 --> 00:21:57,834
Speaker 2: Lit Yeah, Bla that was a much bigger name. But

482
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Speaker 2: I also think and then Jameila's got like a huge

483
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Speaker 2: audience that is like her self bit built audience on

484
00:22:02,794 --> 00:22:05,313
Speaker 2: her substack, and things that can't be controlled by like

485
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Speaker 2: a third party outlet.

486
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't even.

487
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Speaker 2: I don't even. And I think what Jamila has kind

488
00:22:09,674 --> 00:22:12,314
Speaker 2: of ended up by saying, she said, all she's commenting

489
00:22:12,314 --> 00:22:14,914
Speaker 2: on is the text messages from such a long time

490
00:22:14,954 --> 00:22:17,154
Speaker 2: ago that have been released, and she's commenting and like

491
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Speaker 2: kind of affirming what she was saying then. But she

492
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Speaker 2: did go on to say that she would not be

493
00:22:21,194 --> 00:22:24,394
Speaker 2: commenting at all about the lawsuit anyone involved now, and

494
00:22:24,434 --> 00:22:26,754
Speaker 2: she's like, I never do that because there's so much

495
00:22:26,794 --> 00:22:29,754
Speaker 2: more information to come and I don't have anything else

496
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Speaker 2: to say apart from what I said, which was kind

497
00:22:32,834 --> 00:22:35,034
Speaker 2: of protecting my friends. So that's how we fall in

498
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Speaker 2: this next stage. Yes, the case is actually going to

499
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Speaker 2: happen in May, so we have a.

500
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Speaker 4: Lot very close it is.

501
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know, we feel that we've been in

502
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Speaker 2: the weeds with this for like such a long time.

503
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Speaker 5: Were you for talking about this for over a year?

504
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Speaker 2: I know, Well, it has been like the most twisty

505
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Speaker 2: Turney story. But I'm sure a few more text messages

506
00:22:50,634 --> 00:22:53,954
Speaker 2: emails will come to light before then, but otherwise May

507
00:22:54,114 --> 00:22:55,994
Speaker 2: is when the case is going.

508
00:22:55,994 --> 00:22:56,474
Speaker 4: To kick off.

509
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Speaker 5: And then like two weeks later, the documentary series.

510
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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, there are so many layers to this next

511
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Speaker 2: pop culture story. A we're going to talk about this

512
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Speaker 2: musical pop culture story that we have brought in an expert.

513
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Speaker 2: Hello bre player Hello. So, Yes, I am Bri. I

514
00:23:16,874 --> 00:23:20,474
Speaker 2: am the executive producer of Muma MIA's interview podcast No Filter,

515
00:23:21,074 --> 00:23:24,234
Speaker 2: and a bit of a pop culture junkie. But definitely

516
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Speaker 2: I would say a Harry Styles expert. Yes, which is

517
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Speaker 2: what I'm here to talk about. I've seen him in

518
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Speaker 2: concert eight times.

519
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Speaker 4: I was going to say, like, you've done the leg work.

520
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Speaker 4: I've done that. Yes, I've done the leg work.

521
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Speaker 2: I've seen him all around the world, like all around

522
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Speaker 2: the US in Sydney of course on his last tour

523
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Speaker 2: and look, fingers crossed, I'll be seeing him the end

524
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Speaker 2: of this year.

525
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

526
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Speaker 3: So we finally have confirmation that this album is yes coming.

527
00:23:47,994 --> 00:23:50,554
Speaker 3: We kind of had speculated on it a few weeks

528
00:23:50,594 --> 00:23:53,194
Speaker 3: ago with the new year, but we actually know it's

529
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Speaker 3: going to happen, and now we know there's going.

530
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Speaker 2: To be a tour, yes, And it's an interesting tour

531
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Speaker 2: because he's not doing his usual like full trip around

532
00:24:02,314 --> 00:24:04,914
Speaker 2: the world, stopping in all the different cities. He's doing

533
00:24:04,994 --> 00:24:08,554
Speaker 2: like mini residencies, which is interesting and I'm just so

534
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Speaker 2: glad that he did add Australia to this.

535
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Speaker 4: He did.

536
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Speaker 2: Wow, I think that change has happened. Is that like

537
00:24:14,154 --> 00:24:16,194
Speaker 2: quite a significant change from his last mall that was

538
00:24:16,194 --> 00:24:18,114
Speaker 2: more of a stadium too. It was a big stadium

539
00:24:18,114 --> 00:24:21,154
Speaker 2: tour last time. He's obviously playing in stadiums in Australia.

540
00:24:21,194 --> 00:24:23,354
Speaker 2: We've got him here in Sydney and Melbourne playing.

541
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Speaker 4: Him in a hundred ticket venue.

542
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Speaker 3: But as a viewer, for me, when I go to

543
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Speaker 3: a concert, I much prefer like a smallest like a

544
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Speaker 3: smaller stadium or a smaller thing, because you can't really

545
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Speaker 3: do it with a pop star.

546
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Speaker 2: No. And the thing is, and I will say, I

547
00:24:39,154 --> 00:24:42,033
Speaker 2: think Harry does stadiums well. I think it's hard to

548
00:24:42,074 --> 00:24:44,634
Speaker 2: do stadiums well, but Harry does it well. He really

549
00:24:44,754 --> 00:24:48,154
Speaker 2: uses it. And we've seen the layout for this for

550
00:24:48,234 --> 00:24:50,314
Speaker 2: this stage. The apron's really big.

551
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Speaker 4: Nice, thrust nice.

552
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Speaker 2: It's not like a big thrust stage like say Erars was,

553
00:24:54,954 --> 00:24:57,314
Speaker 2: but it's like a big apron that's kind of set

554
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Speaker 2: into quadrants.

555
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Speaker 4: There's pods in it. It's definitely going to be like

556
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Speaker 4: a real dance whose.

557
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Speaker 3: Tour was it recently there was all these complaints about

558
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Speaker 3: like pillars and stuff being in the way.

559
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Speaker 2: Did you see that there was an It's sheer in

560
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Speaker 2: one a little while ago that was like that. So

561
00:25:11,154 --> 00:25:14,834
Speaker 2: it's back here next month, right, So but yeah, he

562
00:25:14,874 --> 00:25:17,194
Speaker 2: did have one there where there were a few pillars

563
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Speaker 2: and band members on that.

564
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Speaker 4: It is hard. It's really hard to do a stadium. Well, yeah,

565
00:25:21,714 --> 00:25:23,034
Speaker 4: a lot of different technical yes.

566
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Speaker 3: Now, Brie, I got an email the other day from

567
00:25:26,714 --> 00:25:29,714
Speaker 3: Amex talking about pre sale tickets.

568
00:25:29,874 --> 00:25:32,514
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's happening here?

569
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Speaker 5: Do you have some like secret tips or something?

570
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Speaker 2: Well, look, okay, I mean it's quite funny because I

571
00:25:37,594 --> 00:25:39,674
Speaker 2: had a friend last night staying up late last night

572
00:25:39,674 --> 00:25:41,834
Speaker 2: applaying for an AMEX card. I'm like, babe, you are

573
00:25:41,834 --> 00:25:44,354
Speaker 2: too late. You should already have that in your wallet. So, yeah,

574
00:25:44,354 --> 00:25:46,194
Speaker 2: there are a few pre sales, but then there's the

575
00:25:46,274 --> 00:25:49,474
Speaker 2: general on sale as well, and I think, you know,

576
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Speaker 2: I would guess, and we have just seen this happen

577
00:25:52,994 --> 00:25:55,634
Speaker 2: in Amsdam and London a few extra nights added. I

578
00:25:55,634 --> 00:25:58,314
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if we see at least another night

579
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Speaker 2: in Melbourne added at another night in Sydney. So I

580
00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:03,074
Speaker 2: would say, like if you are hoping for tickets and

581
00:26:03,074 --> 00:26:07,274
Speaker 2: you're a bit scarred from eras oasis trying to get tickets,

582
00:26:07,314 --> 00:26:10,793
Speaker 2: I think, you know, just stick with it, follow the like,

583
00:26:11,554 --> 00:26:14,994
Speaker 2: follow the tips that Ticketmaster have given. I really like

584
00:26:15,154 --> 00:26:18,914
Speaker 2: you know, Ticketmaster have wounded us all in the past,

585
00:26:18,554 --> 00:26:21,314
Speaker 2: but I do think they're trying really hard to help

586
00:26:21,354 --> 00:26:23,594
Speaker 2: out with this one and one thing. One hint I

587
00:26:23,634 --> 00:26:26,874
Speaker 2: will say, and this is particularly important in this office,

588
00:26:26,874 --> 00:26:29,234
Speaker 2: for example, where there are a lot of Harry Styles fans.

589
00:26:29,674 --> 00:26:32,354
Speaker 2: Do not do it at work on the same Wi

590
00:26:32,354 --> 00:26:34,754
Speaker 2: Fi yeah everyone else, because you.

591
00:26:34,674 --> 00:26:36,394
Speaker 4: Will get tagged as a bot.

592
00:26:36,594 --> 00:26:39,273
Speaker 2: Like I my last time trying to get Eras tickets.

593
00:26:39,314 --> 00:26:42,714
Speaker 2: I was working in a magazine obviously, with so many

594
00:26:42,754 --> 00:26:45,033
Speaker 2: girls in that building trying to get Eras tickets, and

595
00:26:45,114 --> 00:26:47,194
Speaker 2: I was helping out others trying to get them.

596
00:26:47,274 --> 00:26:50,434
Speaker 4: It's just it's it's not a good move. So stay home,

597
00:26:50,554 --> 00:26:52,914
Speaker 4: callin sick. I don't care what you have to do.

598
00:26:53,154 --> 00:26:55,114
Speaker 5: I need you to elaborate on this. What do you

599
00:26:55,194 --> 00:26:56,514
Speaker 5: mean they'll get tagged you as a well.

600
00:26:56,514 --> 00:26:59,234
Speaker 2: Well, if there's so many people using the same IP

601
00:26:59,394 --> 00:27:02,354
Speaker 2: address trying to get tickets, it just looks a bit

602
00:27:02,394 --> 00:27:06,834
Speaker 2: like suspicious activity. Right, So if you're the best chance

603
00:27:06,874 --> 00:27:08,914
Speaker 2: you have to get tickets is to be like home

604
00:27:08,954 --> 00:27:11,834
Speaker 2: alone on your Wi Fi. If you can't, if you

605
00:27:11,954 --> 00:27:14,634
Speaker 2: have to go to work, if you can't, call in sick,

606
00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:18,194
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, like hot spot from your phone, do

607
00:27:18,354 --> 00:27:21,554
Speaker 2: not use the office. I just remember Taylor Swift ticket day,

608
00:27:21,634 --> 00:27:23,394
Speaker 2: like coming into my mere office because I work at

609
00:27:23,434 --> 00:27:24,994
Speaker 2: home in the morning and I came in halfway through

610
00:27:25,034 --> 00:27:27,954
Speaker 2: the day, and it was like a graveyard of broken dreams,

611
00:27:28,114 --> 00:27:31,114
Speaker 2: like and everyone was just sitting at their computers, hunched over, sad,

612
00:27:31,274 --> 00:27:33,674
Speaker 2: crying because none of them had got tickets. Yes, through

613
00:27:33,714 --> 00:27:36,553
Speaker 2: that scene, through the same thing. Well, I was working

614
00:27:36,594 --> 00:27:39,114
Speaker 2: at a magazine. It was the same scenes. You can't

615
00:27:39,114 --> 00:27:39,394
Speaker 2: do it.

616
00:27:39,754 --> 00:27:43,274
Speaker 4: Yes, that's so that. Yeah, that's that's my best tip.

617
00:27:43,474 --> 00:27:44,394
Speaker 4: Call in sick. Guy.

618
00:27:44,554 --> 00:27:46,954
Speaker 2: Like that girl at the Taylor Stick who did her

619
00:27:47,034 --> 00:27:50,074
Speaker 2: interview in the sheet, Yes, outside ticket Master because she's like,

620
00:27:50,114 --> 00:27:51,513
Speaker 2: I can't. She's like, I'm happy to be on the

621
00:27:51,514 --> 00:27:53,194
Speaker 2: news and talk about getting a ticket, but I called

622
00:27:53,194 --> 00:27:54,834
Speaker 2: in sick to work today, so I can't show my face.

623
00:27:54,874 --> 00:27:56,714
Speaker 3: Yeah, but do you know what I think, given of

624
00:27:56,794 --> 00:27:59,234
Speaker 3: the company that we all work for, I feel like,

625
00:27:59,314 --> 00:28:01,994
Speaker 3: that's valid. I think that would be like a valid

626
00:28:02,034 --> 00:28:03,474
Speaker 3: reason for asking for leave.

627
00:28:03,714 --> 00:28:06,794
Speaker 2: I think so too, Butha like it my team's listening.

628
00:28:06,834 --> 00:28:10,154
Speaker 2: That's a right now, I'm joking. Any other tips that

629
00:28:10,194 --> 00:28:13,514
Speaker 2: people need to be across. Yes, it sounds so basic,

630
00:28:13,674 --> 00:28:16,954
Speaker 2: but log in in advance, check your account, check you

631
00:28:16,994 --> 00:28:18,994
Speaker 2: were everything in there, make sure that your credit cards

632
00:28:19,034 --> 00:28:21,154
Speaker 2: already in there, ready to go. So you've just got

633
00:28:21,194 --> 00:28:23,794
Speaker 2: that clean, smooth ride in and want those tickets in

634
00:28:23,874 --> 00:28:27,114
Speaker 2: your basket, don't mess around, just buy them. Yeah, don't

635
00:28:27,114 --> 00:28:29,914
Speaker 2: look for other ones, don't try to get an extra,

636
00:28:30,114 --> 00:28:33,194
Speaker 2: don't do that. And also if you're, like you're buying

637
00:28:33,234 --> 00:28:35,793
Speaker 2: for a group, just have that chat in advance with

638
00:28:35,834 --> 00:28:38,954
Speaker 2: your group and say hey, what's the limit that you're

639
00:28:38,954 --> 00:28:40,954
Speaker 2: willing to spend, because you known'll be firing off messages

640
00:28:40,954 --> 00:28:43,234
Speaker 2: to the group chat saying hey I can get these

641
00:28:43,234 --> 00:28:44,274
Speaker 2: and someone say, oh that's a bit.

642
00:28:44,194 --> 00:28:45,714
Speaker 4: Expensive, Like you got to do it.

643
00:28:45,714 --> 00:28:47,954
Speaker 2: I don't muck around your in and out not some

644
00:28:48,034 --> 00:28:52,914
Speaker 2: smooth and you know what, guys, stay calm, like give people.

645
00:28:52,794 --> 00:28:54,834
Speaker 4: Tips on like how to evacuate a can.

646
00:28:54,874 --> 00:28:57,314
Speaker 3: I just this is actually really helpful for me because

647
00:28:57,394 --> 00:29:00,434
Speaker 3: I the part of the reason I've never bought tickets

648
00:29:00,434 --> 00:29:02,754
Speaker 3: to something like this is the thought of doing that

649
00:29:03,794 --> 00:29:04,594
Speaker 3: gives me so.

650
00:29:04,674 --> 00:29:07,594
Speaker 2: Much anxiety, Like I don't think I could cop That's

651
00:29:07,594 --> 00:29:09,714
Speaker 2: how you make mistakes, so is when you're so stressed.

652
00:29:09,714 --> 00:29:12,074
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying, like, check your account in advance,

653
00:29:12,274 --> 00:29:14,674
Speaker 2: make sure that you've got everything all ready to go.

654
00:29:15,194 --> 00:29:17,514
Speaker 4: Make sure that you make sure you've got the funds

655
00:29:17,554 --> 00:29:18,394
Speaker 4: on your card as well.

656
00:29:18,474 --> 00:29:20,634
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, that's such a simple thing. But

657
00:29:20,674 --> 00:29:22,194
Speaker 2: you know, you just kind of if you forgot that

658
00:29:22,234 --> 00:29:23,634
Speaker 2: you haven't transferred your funds over.

659
00:29:23,714 --> 00:29:25,394
Speaker 4: It's they're all like really simple things.

660
00:29:25,434 --> 00:29:27,834
Speaker 3: What about so easy to forget remembering your like your

661
00:29:27,834 --> 00:29:29,794
Speaker 3: security coaches, I'm it.

662
00:29:29,794 --> 00:29:31,594
Speaker 4: All there in front of you. Have it all ready

663
00:29:31,594 --> 00:29:33,874
Speaker 4: to go. Great great tips.

664
00:29:33,874 --> 00:29:35,154
Speaker 2: I mean you just put the fear of God into

665
00:29:35,154 --> 00:29:36,554
Speaker 2: a lot of people. But also a lot of girls

666
00:29:36,674 --> 00:29:38,474
Speaker 2: right now, I'm sure have their like note pads out. Yeah,

667
00:29:38,474 --> 00:29:42,634
Speaker 2: making no, it's a tactical, it's.

668
00:29:42,554 --> 00:29:45,034
Speaker 4: On the lote. And also, don't don't feel like if

669
00:29:45,074 --> 00:29:45,914
Speaker 4: you miss out.

670
00:29:45,754 --> 00:29:48,034
Speaker 2: This week and it's saying Solda that it's that it's

671
00:29:48,114 --> 00:29:51,354
Speaker 2: done and dusted. We saw people getting eras tours day

672
00:29:51,354 --> 00:29:54,674
Speaker 2: of event before event, so like, it's not over till

673
00:29:54,674 --> 00:29:55,554
Speaker 2: it's Overcau's not over.

674
00:29:55,594 --> 00:29:58,554
Speaker 4: It's not over till Harry Styles sings. That is so true.

675
00:29:58,554 --> 00:30:00,514
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of Harry Style singing, which is what we're

676
00:30:00,554 --> 00:30:02,954
Speaker 2: all here to talk about. So we've got the new

677
00:30:02,994 --> 00:30:05,434
Speaker 2: music coming out, we've got the Stadium tour coming out,

678
00:30:05,514 --> 00:30:07,754
Speaker 2: and because of that, Harry Styles, how long has he

679
00:30:07,794 --> 00:30:09,954
Speaker 2: been out of the spotlight? Like it's been well over

680
00:30:10,034 --> 00:30:11,474
Speaker 2: a year, maybe even long years.

681
00:30:11,674 --> 00:30:14,714
Speaker 4: It literally is, it's been a really, really really long time.

682
00:30:14,874 --> 00:30:16,154
Speaker 2: So I just feel like he's kind of been around

683
00:30:16,154 --> 00:30:17,754
Speaker 2: because you've been paped so much, but he's been out

684
00:30:17,754 --> 00:30:18,674
Speaker 2: of the spotlight for years.

685
00:30:18,754 --> 00:30:22,114
Speaker 4: We've just seen him so much, just like wandering around Ryan,

686
00:30:22,314 --> 00:30:23,994
Speaker 4: which we have to talk. We will get to that.

687
00:30:24,074 --> 00:30:26,354
Speaker 4: Don't worry, My trashy brain is all over that brain.

688
00:30:26,394 --> 00:30:27,434
Speaker 4: Don't you worry. I'll get us there.

689
00:30:27,634 --> 00:30:29,994
Speaker 2: But first I wanted to ask what your thoughts was

690
00:30:30,034 --> 00:30:33,154
Speaker 2: on his first press rollout because when the new music

691
00:30:33,194 --> 00:30:35,874
Speaker 2: and the tour announced, he did a few interviews and

692
00:30:35,954 --> 00:30:37,994
Speaker 2: I thought it was very like, it's almost very deliberate

693
00:30:37,994 --> 00:30:39,514
Speaker 2: the way he did them right and the way he

694
00:30:39,554 --> 00:30:41,514
Speaker 2: looks in the clips and how he's speaking, for sure,

695
00:30:41,634 --> 00:30:47,834
Speaker 2: super casual, super relaxed, like earphones with earphones with cord

696
00:30:49,234 --> 00:30:49,714
Speaker 2: that was great.

697
00:30:49,754 --> 00:30:52,514
Speaker 4: He lives accorded. It does love a chorded earphone. It's

698
00:30:52,634 --> 00:30:55,594
Speaker 4: very like, this is Harry. This is relatable Harry.

699
00:30:55,714 --> 00:30:58,154
Speaker 2: Right. Maybe he has tiny ear canals because I find

700
00:30:58,154 --> 00:31:01,234
Speaker 2: that people with tiny ear canals can't wear airbuns. Yeah maybe, yeah, yeah,

701
00:31:01,394 --> 00:31:03,714
Speaker 2: ask him that if you have interviewing, Okay, that will

702
00:31:03,754 --> 00:31:04,434
Speaker 2: be top of the list.

703
00:31:07,394 --> 00:31:10,834
Speaker 4: This is I'm not this like rollout is also what

704
00:31:10,874 --> 00:31:13,514
Speaker 4: we saw last time. It is no different. He always

705
00:31:13,594 --> 00:31:14,714
Speaker 4: does this. It's the same.

706
00:31:14,954 --> 00:31:18,074
Speaker 2: You know, He's got his like radio shows that he does.

707
00:31:18,234 --> 00:31:21,114
Speaker 2: Although interesting, this time we did see him with John

708
00:31:21,154 --> 00:31:26,354
Speaker 2: Mayer having a chat. Yeah, the couple of Taylor's ex'es galvanizing.

709
00:31:26,914 --> 00:31:27,434
Speaker 2: There was no.

710
00:31:27,394 --> 00:31:28,314
Speaker 4: Description about it.

711
00:31:28,394 --> 00:31:32,474
Speaker 3: But every woman does not like John Mayer very much.

712
00:31:32,514 --> 00:31:34,994
Speaker 3: He's got this not very great good reputation. But I

713
00:31:35,074 --> 00:31:35,994
Speaker 3: kind of like him.

714
00:31:36,114 --> 00:31:36,714
Speaker 2: I kind of like.

715
00:31:38,194 --> 00:31:38,474
Speaker 1: Why.

716
00:31:39,394 --> 00:31:42,314
Speaker 4: I like his music. I like his music.

717
00:31:42,674 --> 00:31:43,674
Speaker 5: He's a real prick.

718
00:31:43,994 --> 00:31:46,234
Speaker 4: I'm trying so hard not to charge you right now.

719
00:31:46,394 --> 00:31:46,794
Speaker 4: I don't.

720
00:31:46,834 --> 00:31:49,274
Speaker 2: I don't And this isn't even a tailor thing like

721
00:31:49,354 --> 00:31:51,114
Speaker 2: this is like a Jessica Simpson thing.

722
00:31:52,074 --> 00:31:55,194
Speaker 3: Stan that I'm not saying he's a good guy. I

723
00:31:55,234 --> 00:31:58,354
Speaker 3: think he's awful, but I also like him, and I

724
00:31:58,394 --> 00:32:00,914
Speaker 3: can't explain the reason for that, and I'm sorry.

725
00:32:01,554 --> 00:32:03,834
Speaker 4: Well, I saw a couple of weeks ago in the

726
00:32:03,914 --> 00:32:06,234
Speaker 4: Chateau Marmont. I wish i'd known that. I would have

727
00:32:06,234 --> 00:32:09,074
Speaker 4: said high for you do I have a galley.

728
00:32:09,754 --> 00:32:11,634
Speaker 3: I wouldn't trust him as far as I would not

729
00:32:11,634 --> 00:32:12,794
Speaker 3: want to have anything to do with him, but I

730
00:32:12,834 --> 00:32:14,994
Speaker 3: do enjoy the stories that come out of him, and

731
00:32:15,034 --> 00:32:15,914
Speaker 3: I like his music.

732
00:32:16,154 --> 00:32:16,754
Speaker 5: So I'm sorry.

733
00:32:17,234 --> 00:32:19,514
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, let's go back to Harry. Feel like this,

734
00:32:19,954 --> 00:32:22,394
Speaker 3: but hang on a second. Doesn't then that reflect quite

735
00:32:22,474 --> 00:32:24,674
Speaker 3: poorly on Harry. Then if you do, if you're so,

736
00:32:24,994 --> 00:32:27,154
Speaker 3: because both of you are looking at me like I have,

737
00:32:27,714 --> 00:32:28,994
Speaker 3: like with Daggers in there.

738
00:32:28,874 --> 00:32:31,354
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to touch Harry. Nothing's no,

739
00:32:31,594 --> 00:32:34,154
Speaker 2: that's fine. Look he was He's doing promo, as you

740
00:32:34,154 --> 00:32:34,634
Speaker 2: talked about it.

741
00:32:34,634 --> 00:32:35,154
Speaker 4: So he's doing this.

742
00:32:35,474 --> 00:32:38,594
Speaker 2: The casual chats roll out the thing about Harry, and

743
00:32:38,634 --> 00:32:41,394
Speaker 2: fans know this that man has never truly answered a

744
00:32:41,474 --> 00:32:42,594
Speaker 2: question his.

745
00:32:42,754 --> 00:32:44,634
Speaker 4: Life, right. He talks a lot.

746
00:32:44,754 --> 00:32:46,674
Speaker 2: You get a like you feel like you're getting a

747
00:32:46,674 --> 00:32:48,554
Speaker 2: lot from him, and it's always so much fun, and

748
00:32:48,594 --> 00:32:51,754
Speaker 2: he's always got like funny stories and interesting little tidbits,

749
00:32:52,074 --> 00:32:54,714
Speaker 2: and he's just like super charming and obviously gorgeous, So

750
00:32:54,794 --> 00:32:57,354
Speaker 2: fans are always just so happy to get anything from him.

751
00:32:57,674 --> 00:32:59,714
Speaker 2: But you never really get anything.

752
00:32:59,434 --> 00:33:00,354
Speaker 4: Juicy out of him.

753
00:33:00,714 --> 00:33:03,314
Speaker 2: He is like the artful dodger when it comes to

754
00:33:03,354 --> 00:33:07,874
Speaker 2: answering questions. But we did get some interest seeing fun

755
00:33:07,954 --> 00:33:10,714
Speaker 2: things out of him. So we finally found out why

756
00:33:10,754 --> 00:33:14,194
Speaker 2: he was at the like announcement of the new pope.

757
00:33:14,474 --> 00:33:16,274
Speaker 4: That was and that's really all I cared about.

758
00:33:18,434 --> 00:33:20,594
Speaker 2: But that was when those photos came out of that

759
00:33:20,674 --> 00:33:22,954
Speaker 2: you pope being announced and everyone like rushing into the

760
00:33:22,954 --> 00:33:26,514
Speaker 2: streets of Rome and such a prominent Harry Styles being there,

761
00:33:26,554 --> 00:33:28,874
Speaker 2: and he looked confused but also like he meant to

762
00:33:28,914 --> 00:33:31,114
Speaker 2: be there, and he was, and he was like so disheveled,

763
00:33:31,114 --> 00:33:33,394
Speaker 2: like wearing the hoodie in the sunglasses, so he's not

764
00:33:33,394 --> 00:33:34,714
Speaker 2: like he was someone who is like he was going

765
00:33:34,714 --> 00:33:36,954
Speaker 2: to an event or something. Yeah, it was weird because

766
00:33:36,954 --> 00:33:39,434
Speaker 2: it's like we know se Catholic, well, we know he

767
00:33:39,474 --> 00:33:42,754
Speaker 2: has been hanging around Italy a lot over the last

768
00:33:42,754 --> 00:33:45,194
Speaker 2: few years, right, that's his like favor, that's his home

769
00:33:45,234 --> 00:33:47,714
Speaker 2: away from home. So it made sense that he was

770
00:33:47,754 --> 00:33:50,074
Speaker 2: in Rome because we've seen him there a lot. It

771
00:33:50,194 --> 00:33:52,994
Speaker 2: was weird that he was just like there amongst a crowd. Yeah,

772
00:33:53,194 --> 00:33:57,874
Speaker 2: so famous, that's insane. But no security by himself, no security,

773
00:33:57,954 --> 00:34:00,234
Speaker 2: none of his friends that we've seen him like wandering

774
00:34:00,274 --> 00:34:05,154
Speaker 2: around Rome with, you know, like Alessandra mchaulay from Valentino.

775
00:34:05,234 --> 00:34:07,034
Speaker 4: We see him walking around with him a lot.

776
00:34:07,114 --> 00:34:09,594
Speaker 2: We see walking around with Zoe a bit, you know,

777
00:34:10,034 --> 00:34:13,314
Speaker 2: and before that, before he was with her other girlfriends,

778
00:34:13,354 --> 00:34:16,554
Speaker 2: Taylor Russell girl loves to take them to Italy, just

779
00:34:16,674 --> 00:34:22,594
Speaker 2: ask Olivia Dean. But he was just there and so like,

780
00:34:22,914 --> 00:34:24,554
Speaker 2: and I think at first Roone was like, is it

781
00:34:24,594 --> 00:34:26,513
Speaker 2: really him? Is it someone who just looks like him

782
00:34:26,594 --> 00:34:28,354
Speaker 2: or is it Ai? Like, what the hell is going on?

783
00:34:28,394 --> 00:34:29,834
Speaker 2: There was a real whole thing. It's just a Harry

784
00:34:29,834 --> 00:34:32,234
Speaker 2: Styles look like and people were searching for the Harry

785
00:34:32,274 --> 00:34:32,913
Speaker 2: Styles look alike.

786
00:34:33,074 --> 00:34:34,953
Speaker 4: Yes, but no, it was him.

787
00:34:35,074 --> 00:34:36,834
Speaker 2: And it turns out that he was down the road

788
00:34:36,834 --> 00:34:39,674
Speaker 2: getting his haircut when this happened, and the hairdress had

789
00:34:39,714 --> 00:34:41,674
Speaker 2: just stopped and was like, oh my god, it's happening

790
00:34:41,714 --> 00:34:44,393
Speaker 2: and ran out, and Harry was like curious, and I

791
00:34:44,394 --> 00:34:46,754
Speaker 2: guess anyone would be in that situation. You're like, Okay,

792
00:34:46,954 --> 00:34:50,074
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's pretty wild that, like at that

793
00:34:50,194 --> 00:34:52,514
Speaker 2: fame level he still went and did it.

794
00:34:52,434 --> 00:34:54,514
Speaker 4: But everyone was too focused on the new Pue. So

795
00:34:54,554 --> 00:34:56,714
Speaker 4: now we know why he was there. Wow, And that's

796
00:34:56,714 --> 00:34:58,634
Speaker 4: really the only question I needed. I needed.

797
00:34:58,674 --> 00:35:03,154
Speaker 2: That's all my Harry, Harry styles. Like one thing I

798
00:35:03,194 --> 00:35:05,314
Speaker 2: love that he was asked, which was about the music,

799
00:35:05,354 --> 00:35:08,354
Speaker 2: because I do love Harry's music. Music nerd was someone

800
00:35:08,394 --> 00:35:11,354
Speaker 2: asked him and I speculated about this a few weeks ago. Yeah,

801
00:35:11,794 --> 00:35:13,714
Speaker 2: someone asked him if they were going to be any

802
00:35:13,754 --> 00:35:17,114
Speaker 2: collapse on this album, because he hasn't done zero collapse

803
00:35:17,194 --> 00:35:20,234
Speaker 2: across his first three albums, and he's confirmed again no

804
00:35:20,354 --> 00:35:24,594
Speaker 2: collapse on this album, which is really so different to

805
00:35:24,634 --> 00:35:25,834
Speaker 2: what everyone else is doing.

806
00:35:25,874 --> 00:35:29,234
Speaker 3: And it's also considering he comes from, you know, the

807
00:35:29,714 --> 00:35:32,034
Speaker 3: biggest boy band in the world and you know all

808
00:35:32,074 --> 00:35:33,274
Speaker 3: of his other prior band.

809
00:35:33,354 --> 00:35:36,834
Speaker 4: Maybe it's just sick of sharing his songs. Yeah, that's

810
00:35:36,874 --> 00:35:37,474
Speaker 4: pretty clear.

811
00:35:37,994 --> 00:35:39,873
Speaker 2: But yeah, well, speaking of that, that brings us to

812
00:35:39,914 --> 00:35:41,594
Speaker 2: something else. I need you to I love how you

813
00:35:41,714 --> 00:35:44,954
Speaker 2: become the Harry Styles spokesperson. Yeah, I'm I'm hitting you

814
00:35:44,994 --> 00:35:46,913
Speaker 2: with on my hardbod questions and I was like, tell

815
00:35:46,914 --> 00:35:49,634
Speaker 2: the people the truth. So the other headlines I've seen

816
00:35:49,674 --> 00:35:52,634
Speaker 2: around this is that other One Direction bandmates have put

817
00:35:52,634 --> 00:35:55,314
Speaker 2: out music this week. In particular, I want to say

818
00:35:55,354 --> 00:35:57,433
Speaker 2: Louis was the one who was just like, please help

819
00:35:57,434 --> 00:35:59,594
Speaker 2: my album cut through the noise. And there's been some

820
00:35:59,674 --> 00:36:02,114
Speaker 2: speculation that it was kind of like a bit of

821
00:36:02,154 --> 00:36:05,074
Speaker 2: a dick move from Harry, who's the biggest superstar to

822
00:36:05,234 --> 00:36:08,154
Speaker 2: release music around the same time his band means and

823
00:36:08,154 --> 00:36:11,354
Speaker 2: to potentially like cancel out their announcements. Do you want

824
00:36:11,354 --> 00:36:13,874
Speaker 2: to speak to that on behalf of these boys Like, okay,

825
00:36:13,914 --> 00:36:16,913
Speaker 2: they're spokesperson, They're not on the same label anymore, so

826
00:36:16,954 --> 00:36:21,314
Speaker 2: they wouldn't necessarily have had visibility about who's releasing when, right,

827
00:36:21,954 --> 00:36:25,914
Speaker 2: And the fact is, like Louis was releasing an album,

828
00:36:26,314 --> 00:36:30,754
Speaker 2: Harry released a single, So they're not really competing necessarily

829
00:36:30,754 --> 00:36:33,354
Speaker 2: for the same thing there. Like Louie wants to see

830
00:36:33,394 --> 00:36:35,593
Speaker 2: like album go to number one on the charts, Harry

831
00:36:35,634 --> 00:36:36,954
Speaker 2: wants to see single go to number one.

832
00:36:36,954 --> 00:36:37,873
Speaker 4: I'm sure Louis would love.

833
00:36:38,034 --> 00:36:40,873
Speaker 2: That to happen as well, but you can't control that,

834
00:36:41,074 --> 00:36:43,834
Speaker 2: and like anyone else could release music at any time,

835
00:36:44,074 --> 00:36:46,234
Speaker 2: Taylor could have decided this week to drop opal Light

836
00:36:46,314 --> 00:36:47,274
Speaker 2: and they'd both be screwed.

837
00:36:47,394 --> 00:36:47,914
Speaker 4: Yeah.

838
00:36:47,994 --> 00:36:51,434
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I think people have this idea that it's

839
00:36:51,474 --> 00:36:56,993
Speaker 2: like more planned sometimes than it is. And you know,

840
00:36:57,354 --> 00:37:00,393
Speaker 2: I've actually had a situation where I interviewed Louis Tomlinson

841
00:37:01,274 --> 00:37:03,754
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, twenty nineteen, and it was

842
00:37:04,074 --> 00:37:06,314
Speaker 2: going to be around the launch of his a single,

843
00:37:06,474 --> 00:37:08,834
Speaker 2: right back and forth, back and forth, because the team

844
00:37:08,874 --> 00:37:10,754
Speaker 2: was still deciding when do we release the single, when

845
00:37:10,834 --> 00:37:12,754
Speaker 2: to release the album. I was told to sit on

846
00:37:12,794 --> 00:37:14,554
Speaker 2: it wait. Then all of a sudden it was like, actually, no,

847
00:37:14,594 --> 00:37:17,393
Speaker 2: we want the sign off to be about the album.

848
00:37:17,394 --> 00:37:18,393
Speaker 4: So right up.

849
00:37:18,354 --> 00:37:20,354
Speaker 2: Until the last minute, and I have to say, they

850
00:37:20,394 --> 00:37:23,314
Speaker 2: still didn't actually pull through, and the interview went like

851
00:37:23,434 --> 00:37:24,194
Speaker 2: it was in print.

852
00:37:24,274 --> 00:37:27,834
Speaker 4: It went out before they had released, like announced the album.

853
00:37:27,954 --> 00:37:31,513
Speaker 2: So like it's not as organized sometimes as you would

854
00:37:31,514 --> 00:37:33,994
Speaker 2: think it would be, and they do chop and change

855
00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:36,354
Speaker 2: and decide like, oh no, that week's not going to

856
00:37:36,434 --> 00:37:38,913
Speaker 2: be great because like they do all want those number ones,

857
00:37:39,154 --> 00:37:40,674
Speaker 2: you know, they want to chart well, and they can

858
00:37:40,714 --> 00:37:42,394
Speaker 2: be a bit more nimble than like a film release,

859
00:37:42,474 --> 00:37:44,433
Speaker 2: because I don't have to be booking theaters or red

860
00:37:44,474 --> 00:37:45,154
Speaker 2: carpets like that.

861
00:37:45,154 --> 00:37:47,514
Speaker 4: Stuff has to be locked in years in advance. Totally,

862
00:37:47,594 --> 00:37:48,393
Speaker 4: totally could Just.

863
00:37:48,634 --> 00:37:52,474
Speaker 2: So, I think someone is as high priority on the

864
00:37:52,474 --> 00:37:56,114
Speaker 2: record label as Harry. I think there's been like a

865
00:37:56,154 --> 00:38:03,074
Speaker 2: definite timeline here that's been set Louis. Look, I don't

866
00:38:03,074 --> 00:38:03,874
Speaker 2: think it's a dick.

867
00:38:03,714 --> 00:38:06,234
Speaker 4: Move by Harry. It's certainly not. No, I don't think

868
00:38:06,234 --> 00:38:07,634
Speaker 4: it's a speak on that.

869
00:38:07,834 --> 00:38:10,714
Speaker 2: Thank you so much and also smart what you've said

870
00:38:10,714 --> 00:38:13,034
Speaker 2: there about the music release schedule, And I think you've

871
00:38:13,074 --> 00:38:15,393
Speaker 2: set a lot of one Direction's hearts like you've healed

872
00:38:15,434 --> 00:38:17,913
Speaker 2: them from being broken. And now, just to finish off,

873
00:38:17,914 --> 00:38:19,154
Speaker 2: I'm going to do what I do best and take

874
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Speaker 2: us from the high to the loop. Yes, and ask

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Speaker 2: you like a real trash bad question, which is, what

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Speaker 2: do you think of the reports that he and Zoe

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Speaker 2: Kravitz are engaged and that they are soul meets okay,

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Speaker 2: which someone a quote has been attributed to her and

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Speaker 2: literally neither of them have ever spoken a word about

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Speaker 2: each other. No, And you know what paparazzi photos are

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Speaker 2: a fun time, so many of them.

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Speaker 4: They never will. I don't know about her. He never will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah famously does not speak about his girlfriends sings about them.

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Speaker 2: So I think that the most we're going to find

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Speaker 2: out about their relationship will be on this upcoming album.

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Speaker 2: We've got nothing in the first single, but you know,

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Speaker 2: like I don't know if you've seen the track listing

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Speaker 2: for this album, but surely there's going to be some

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Speaker 2: stuff there because we do like to put you know,

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Speaker 2: hints about his relationships and things in there and do

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Speaker 2: deep dives into them through song.

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Speaker 4: That's his way, that's his way of sharing.

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Speaker 2: Why is that so romantic? I hate that, I know, but.

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Speaker 4: Like that's what he does best.

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Speaker 3: So I cannot explain how happy it made me when

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Speaker 3: she broke up with Channing Taters Yeah and went to

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Speaker 3: Harry Styles Like great upgrade, massive upgrade for us.

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Speaker 2: So look, I would be surprised if they're engaged this

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Speaker 2: early because it just doesn't feel like him. But you

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Speaker 2: never know, when you know, when you know, you know,

901
00:39:38,234 --> 00:39:40,994
Speaker 2: love is, you know, like it can happen. You just

902
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Speaker 2: don't know. But I've said this before, I do love

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Speaker 2: the idea of Lenny Kravitz being fast.

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Speaker 4: It's so good.

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Speaker 2: And can I just say, if Zoe Kravitz is a

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Speaker 2: real girls girl like she claims, she will share those

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Speaker 2: wedding photos. That's all I want to have photos. It's

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00:39:52,834 --> 00:39:54,074
Speaker 2: not like I don't need any detail.

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Speaker 4: That's all I want. And if she was a girl's girl,

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Speaker 4: she would do it.

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Speaker 3: Let's remember they're both artists, and artists have notoriously unpredictable,

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Speaker 3: very unpredictable and very passionate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, thank you so much, Brie for sharing all

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Speaker 4: of your knowledge.

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Speaker 2: And hopefully there's of girls and guys out there that

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Speaker 2: will get their tickets. By getting tickets, guys, just stay

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Speaker 2: calm and know that this week will not be your

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Speaker 2: only chance.

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Speaker 4: If you do miss out.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back here in your feet tomorrow morning with

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Speaker 3: morning Tea hosted by the wonderful Ash London, then your usual.

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Speaker 5: Episode of The Spill in the afternoon.

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Speaker 3: The Spill is produced by Manisha is Warren with sound

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Speaker 3: production by Scott Strottach Bye Bye Bye.

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Speaker 2: Bye, Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land.

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Speaker 2: We have recorded this podcast on the Gadigoor people of

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Speaker 2: the Eoronation. We pay our respects to their elders past

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Speaker 2: and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and

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Speaker 2: Torres Strait Islander cultures.