1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:10,914 Speaker 1: You're listening to I'm On with Me podcast. 2 00:00:14,234 --> 00:00:16,913 Speaker 2: Hello, spillers, this is Laura Brodnick and En Vernam here, 3 00:00:16,954 --> 00:00:19,234 Speaker 2: just popping your ears to say it is a public holidays. 4 00:00:19,233 --> 00:00:21,393 Speaker 2: We don't have a new episode out today, but we 5 00:00:21,514 --> 00:00:24,874 Speaker 2: wanted to share an incredible episode from our sister podcast, 6 00:00:25,034 --> 00:00:27,914 Speaker 2: Watch Party, all about the show that everyone I know 7 00:00:27,954 --> 00:00:32,354 Speaker 2: at least is still talking about, Bridgeton season four on Netflix. 8 00:00:32,473 --> 00:00:35,514 Speaker 3: This episode is so good, you guys, especially if you've 9 00:00:35,634 --> 00:00:38,914 Speaker 3: just binge watched Bridgeton, which we highly recommend you do 10 00:00:38,994 --> 00:00:41,233 Speaker 3: before you're listening to this episode. And you know when 11 00:00:41,233 --> 00:00:43,353 Speaker 3: you just binge watch something that everyone's talking about and 12 00:00:43,354 --> 00:00:45,833 Speaker 3: you're like, I just need someone to debrief with. I 13 00:00:45,873 --> 00:00:48,194 Speaker 3: need someone to bitch with. I need someone to say 14 00:00:48,233 --> 00:00:50,393 Speaker 3: what should have happened and what shouldn't happened. This is 15 00:00:50,434 --> 00:00:53,394 Speaker 3: the podcast episode for you. It's the final one in 16 00:00:53,513 --> 00:00:56,713 Speaker 3: Watch Party for the Bridgeton series. They talk about everything, 17 00:00:56,914 --> 00:00:59,594 Speaker 3: not just a finale, but also theories, what's going to 18 00:00:59,634 --> 00:01:02,353 Speaker 3: happen next. We have some strong opinions in our team. 19 00:01:02,514 --> 00:01:04,394 Speaker 3: Have a listen. It is so so good. 20 00:01:04,834 --> 00:01:11,954 Speaker 4: Please can't help please. From Mamma Mia, Welcome to the 21 00:01:11,954 --> 00:01:14,834 Speaker 4: Skills Watch party where we unpack the biggest shows that 22 00:01:14,874 --> 00:01:17,914 Speaker 4: the world is talking about. This is your next installment 23 00:01:17,994 --> 00:01:21,594 Speaker 4: of Bridgeton Part two. I'm Grace Rufrey and as always, 24 00:01:21,674 --> 00:01:23,674 Speaker 4: I'm joined by Live James. 25 00:01:23,874 --> 00:01:27,114 Speaker 5: I am Muma me as senior Social Producer. I'm online 26 00:01:27,194 --> 00:01:29,274 Speaker 5: all the time, so I'm telling you what everyone is 27 00:01:29,314 --> 00:01:32,554 Speaker 5: thinking about Part two and the whole season overall. 28 00:01:32,834 --> 00:01:33,914 Speaker 4: And I'm Georgie Paige. 29 00:01:33,914 --> 00:01:36,714 Speaker 6: I look after our entertainment podcasts here at Mamma Mia, 30 00:01:37,034 --> 00:01:39,874 Speaker 6: and I am the nerd who renews her library membership 31 00:01:39,914 --> 00:01:42,834 Speaker 6: after watching Bridgeton to deep dive into why they did 32 00:01:42,874 --> 00:01:43,554 Speaker 6: all the things they. 33 00:01:43,434 --> 00:01:45,874 Speaker 4: Did before we get into the topics we're going to 34 00:01:45,874 --> 00:01:49,034 Speaker 4: talk about. This is the highest rated season of Bridgeton 35 00:01:49,274 --> 00:01:52,154 Speaker 4: so far, Emma, So I do want to know what 36 00:01:52,274 --> 00:01:54,794 Speaker 4: your favorite season is that's come out so far. I'll 37 00:01:54,794 --> 00:01:57,754 Speaker 4: start Mine is season three that is mental. I have 38 00:01:57,994 --> 00:01:59,314 Speaker 4: not seen that take anywhere. 39 00:01:59,754 --> 00:02:01,834 Speaker 6: Everyone's saying they love season two the most before this, 40 00:02:02,274 --> 00:02:04,794 Speaker 6: and maybe season four beats it, or maybe it's still 41 00:02:04,834 --> 00:02:06,674 Speaker 6: just a little bit ahead. I've seen no one say 42 00:02:06,754 --> 00:02:10,554 Speaker 6: panel Colin, well, it's less about their love story and 43 00:02:10,594 --> 00:02:12,594 Speaker 6: more about the whistledown coming to a head. I like 44 00:02:12,633 --> 00:02:16,234 Speaker 6: a Bee storyline, a good, solid Bee storyline, which, as 45 00:02:16,274 --> 00:02:18,874 Speaker 6: discussed last episode, no one really had a Bee or 46 00:02:18,914 --> 00:02:22,834 Speaker 6: c storyline, and that frustrated me. So I loved I 47 00:02:22,834 --> 00:02:25,954 Speaker 6: guess the climactic energy of who is whistled down for 48 00:02:25,994 --> 00:02:28,274 Speaker 6: three seasons coming to a head in that interesting. 49 00:02:28,394 --> 00:02:30,354 Speaker 5: I guess that's why I didn't like it, because I. 50 00:02:30,314 --> 00:02:31,834 Speaker 7: Was like, no, I don't want to know who she is? 51 00:02:32,714 --> 00:02:34,954 Speaker 4: Fixed that now? Yeah, they have fixed that. So Georgie, 52 00:02:34,994 --> 00:02:36,554 Speaker 4: what's your favorite Season four? 53 00:02:36,714 --> 00:02:38,394 Speaker 6: Not just because I want to marry Luke Thompson and 54 00:02:38,434 --> 00:02:40,154 Speaker 6: have since the first time I've seen him, but it's 55 00:02:40,194 --> 00:02:43,114 Speaker 6: the first season without a love triangle, like he saw her, 56 00:02:43,314 --> 00:02:45,354 Speaker 6: he wanted her, he chased her, and he got her. 57 00:02:45,634 --> 00:02:49,034 Speaker 4: I think it was just perfect. That's it's clean, it's good, 58 00:02:49,074 --> 00:02:50,913 Speaker 4: it's it's pure. 59 00:02:50,634 --> 00:02:53,554 Speaker 6: Love, because otherwise I'd be going for Lord Devlin last season. 60 00:02:53,554 --> 00:02:54,714 Speaker 6: But that's a whole nother podcast. 61 00:02:57,274 --> 00:02:58,634 Speaker 7: My favorite is none of them. 62 00:02:58,714 --> 00:03:01,834 Speaker 1: It's Queen's Charlotte, of course. 63 00:03:01,874 --> 00:03:02,634 Speaker 7: It's my favorite. 64 00:03:02,754 --> 00:03:05,714 Speaker 5: I thought that maybe this season could take it, but 65 00:03:05,954 --> 00:03:06,834 Speaker 5: absolutely did not. 66 00:03:07,194 --> 00:03:08,353 Speaker 7: Queen Charlotte is the best. 67 00:03:08,514 --> 00:03:10,394 Speaker 4: Well, we both love Queen Charlotte, and maybe there might 68 00:03:10,394 --> 00:03:12,194 Speaker 4: not be a Queen Charlotte sequel, but there could be 69 00:03:12,194 --> 00:03:14,674 Speaker 4: another spin off. We're going to discuss that on this 70 00:03:14,754 --> 00:03:16,994 Speaker 4: episode of our Bridgeton Deep Dive. We're going into all 71 00:03:17,074 --> 00:03:19,914 Speaker 4: four episodes of Part two. We're making the case for 72 00:03:20,034 --> 00:03:23,434 Speaker 4: Violet as the true MVP or guys, she's the diamond 73 00:03:23,514 --> 00:03:26,394 Speaker 4: of the season, if you will. We also have to 74 00:03:26,394 --> 00:03:29,114 Speaker 4: get into Part two's intimate moments and the way the 75 00:03:29,154 --> 00:03:33,353 Speaker 4: Regency world navigates losing virginity for plate and infertility, which 76 00:03:33,394 --> 00:03:37,394 Speaker 4: is quite the spectrum of conversation. And finally, we're ending 77 00:03:37,394 --> 00:03:39,874 Speaker 4: on a heated debate of who is next? Is the 78 00:03:39,914 --> 00:03:42,634 Speaker 4: show setting us up for Eloise or Francesca, and also 79 00:03:42,794 --> 00:03:46,554 Speaker 4: the future trajectory of the last two Bridgitton children, Hyacinth 80 00:03:46,634 --> 00:03:56,074 Speaker 4: and Gregory. Violet Bridgeton is probably the best mother on TV. 81 00:03:56,314 --> 00:03:57,674 Speaker 4: That's my opening statement on. 82 00:03:57,674 --> 00:03:59,234 Speaker 1: This one hundred and ten percent. 83 00:03:59,474 --> 00:04:01,154 Speaker 4: Oh everyone loves her? Does the Internet? 84 00:04:01,194 --> 00:04:01,394 Speaker 1: Look? 85 00:04:01,634 --> 00:04:02,034 Speaker 4: Do you know what? 86 00:04:02,914 --> 00:04:06,634 Speaker 5: Some people really hate Violet? Which why I know? I 87 00:04:06,714 --> 00:04:09,674 Speaker 5: discovered this last night when I was deep diving into it, 88 00:04:10,194 --> 00:04:12,114 Speaker 5: and I feel like I found a corner of the 89 00:04:12,154 --> 00:04:15,474 Speaker 5: Internet that I felt very unwelcome in. I have never 90 00:04:15,554 --> 00:04:18,873 Speaker 5: disagreed with people more in my life. Everyone's saying that 91 00:04:18,914 --> 00:04:22,314 Speaker 5: she's selfish. Everyone's saying that she's making decisions for her 92 00:04:22,394 --> 00:04:25,794 Speaker 5: children and not letting them think for herself. Everyone's saying 93 00:04:25,794 --> 00:04:29,274 Speaker 5: that she's doing things that she would never allow anyone 94 00:04:29,313 --> 00:04:33,313 Speaker 5: else in her family to do and expecting no judgment 95 00:04:33,714 --> 00:04:39,433 Speaker 5: where she judges herself. Which, look, every argument could be 96 00:04:39,553 --> 00:04:42,194 Speaker 5: spun in a way that also makes you like her, 97 00:04:42,433 --> 00:04:44,594 Speaker 5: Like she's seeing she's. 98 00:04:44,354 --> 00:04:46,633 Speaker 7: Not picking who her children love, like she. 99 00:04:46,553 --> 00:04:49,793 Speaker 4: Just saw how Benedict liked, so she did push back 100 00:04:50,113 --> 00:04:52,794 Speaker 4: on him, and then when he pushed back on her, 101 00:04:53,674 --> 00:04:55,433 Speaker 4: she went, Okay, yeah, exactly. 102 00:04:55,513 --> 00:04:57,354 Speaker 6: Well, that's what I think was the best part of 103 00:04:57,393 --> 00:05:00,513 Speaker 6: her character development, and she showed almost more character development 104 00:05:00,513 --> 00:05:04,034 Speaker 6: than anyone else in this series. The confrontation in episode 105 00:05:04,073 --> 00:05:06,314 Speaker 6: six was really hard to watch, right, So when he 106 00:05:06,354 --> 00:05:08,993 Speaker 6: says to her, it is all a tad hypocritical. Do 107 00:05:09,034 --> 00:05:12,154 Speaker 6: you not think you spend our entire life claiming the 108 00:05:12,154 --> 00:05:15,234 Speaker 6: one thing that matters is marrying a love match. I 109 00:05:15,274 --> 00:05:17,473 Speaker 6: did not understand it nor want it. In fact, I 110 00:05:17,553 --> 00:05:19,273 Speaker 6: ran from it, and now I have found someone that 111 00:05:19,313 --> 00:05:20,154 Speaker 6: I loved more than I. 112 00:05:20,113 --> 00:05:21,194 Speaker 4: Ever thought possible. 113 00:05:21,914 --> 00:05:25,234 Speaker 6: The way he yelled at her one was very sexy, 114 00:05:25,274 --> 00:05:28,193 Speaker 6: but he was absolutely right. She has spent years telling 115 00:05:28,193 --> 00:05:30,153 Speaker 6: them to marry for love, but the second it got 116 00:05:30,193 --> 00:05:34,674 Speaker 6: messy with Sophie, she flinched. Right, this season really exposed 117 00:05:34,674 --> 00:05:37,273 Speaker 6: a big crack in the Bridgeton facade, and she's sort 118 00:05:37,274 --> 00:05:39,434 Speaker 6: of the one left holding on to the pieces when 119 00:05:39,433 --> 00:05:42,833 Speaker 6: that happens. But she grows, she changes tack so when 120 00:05:43,193 --> 00:05:45,553 Speaker 6: she finds out that he actually loves her, Sophie's not 121 00:05:45,553 --> 00:05:47,993 Speaker 6: someone he just wants to bed and ruin. I think 122 00:05:48,034 --> 00:05:50,313 Speaker 6: it was remarkable give her the Emmy. 123 00:05:50,633 --> 00:05:52,834 Speaker 4: Give her the Emmy, And I think it was such 124 00:05:52,834 --> 00:05:55,193 Speaker 4: a beautiful work by the writing team that she was 125 00:05:55,274 --> 00:05:58,674 Speaker 4: so integral to each of Benedict and Sophie's storylines the 126 00:05:58,674 --> 00:06:02,034 Speaker 4: whole way through, like the hiring and then Sophie wants 127 00:06:02,073 --> 00:06:03,794 Speaker 4: to leave, so she goes, oh, write you a letter, 128 00:06:03,914 --> 00:06:06,394 Speaker 4: and then to pushing Benedict to be like is this 129 00:06:06,474 --> 00:06:08,274 Speaker 4: just a mistress? Is it more? And then giving her 130 00:06:08,313 --> 00:06:10,033 Speaker 4: the ring and then the court case, like she was 131 00:06:10,073 --> 00:06:12,914 Speaker 4: actually involved every single step of the way of their relationship. 132 00:06:13,154 --> 00:06:15,674 Speaker 4: And also he opened up to his mum to tell her, 133 00:06:15,674 --> 00:06:18,714 Speaker 4: like she knew about the drawings and the glove and 134 00:06:19,193 --> 00:06:23,954 Speaker 4: everything so yeah, she's MVP exactly. But of course the 135 00:06:23,953 --> 00:06:26,553 Speaker 4: most important thing is that she got her garden watered right. 136 00:06:27,073 --> 00:06:30,193 Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I'd love it. And actually, this. 137 00:06:30,113 --> 00:06:32,553 Speaker 5: Is what everyone's talking about the most, is her relationship 138 00:06:32,594 --> 00:06:36,594 Speaker 5: with Marcus and particularly how she was There was a 139 00:06:36,633 --> 00:06:39,873 Speaker 5: lot of alluding to the fact that when she was younger, 140 00:06:40,073 --> 00:06:43,273 Speaker 5: she was wild and free. She said that to Benedict. 141 00:06:43,313 --> 00:06:46,433 Speaker 5: She said to benedicta that Anthony is your father's son, 142 00:06:46,513 --> 00:06:47,474 Speaker 5: but you were mine. 143 00:06:47,953 --> 00:06:49,113 Speaker 4: Yes, And I thought that was. 144 00:06:49,073 --> 00:06:52,193 Speaker 5: So sweet, and I feel like a lot of people 145 00:06:52,234 --> 00:06:55,354 Speaker 5: are putting two and two together. Benedict asked Sophie to 146 00:06:55,393 --> 00:06:58,713 Speaker 5: be his mistress, and then Violet almost pulled the exact 147 00:06:58,753 --> 00:07:01,833 Speaker 5: same move to Marcus, where she basically asked for a 148 00:07:01,914 --> 00:07:07,313 Speaker 5: regency situationship. So she was basically asking Marcus to a 149 00:07:07,354 --> 00:07:08,714 Speaker 5: relationship with those strings. 150 00:07:09,034 --> 00:07:10,994 Speaker 4: But isn't that interesting that that's what Benedict sort of 151 00:07:11,034 --> 00:07:13,593 Speaker 4: does to Sophie in part one of the series. It's 152 00:07:13,594 --> 00:07:15,994 Speaker 4: not for lack of caring or lack of liking them, 153 00:07:16,034 --> 00:07:18,794 Speaker 4: it's just a like, nope, that's here's my boundary. 154 00:07:19,034 --> 00:07:20,114 Speaker 7: Yeah exactly, guys. 155 00:07:20,114 --> 00:07:22,154 Speaker 6: I've got to say the shot of her in the 156 00:07:22,154 --> 00:07:25,234 Speaker 6: mirror wearing the lingerie and realizing that she still has 157 00:07:25,314 --> 00:07:28,034 Speaker 6: wants and that she's more than a wife and a mother, 158 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:31,074 Speaker 6: She's a woman. Yeah, amazing mic drop moment of the series. 159 00:07:31,154 --> 00:07:33,833 Speaker 4: What I find interesting is when Violet says she wants 160 00:07:33,914 --> 00:07:37,154 Speaker 4: the Regency. Here a situationship is Marcus is not stoked. 161 00:07:37,314 --> 00:07:39,953 Speaker 4: He accepts her point of view and what she wants, 162 00:07:39,994 --> 00:07:42,754 Speaker 4: but he wants more. Do we know anything about what 163 00:07:42,794 --> 00:07:45,514 Speaker 4: the future of their relationship is. Well, as you know, 164 00:07:45,594 --> 00:07:47,354 Speaker 4: as a Bridgitton super fan, I have a lot of 165 00:07:47,354 --> 00:07:49,393 Speaker 4: friends online and we have a lot of chats about 166 00:07:49,393 --> 00:07:51,474 Speaker 4: this sort of thing. So this is why I think 167 00:07:51,474 --> 00:07:54,714 Speaker 4: that Varcas and I made up that name. You heard 168 00:07:54,714 --> 00:07:58,593 Speaker 4: her here first sounds like a plant. Well, I reckon 169 00:07:58,634 --> 00:08:01,514 Speaker 4: their endgame. And this is why here's some Easter eggs 170 00:08:01,594 --> 00:08:05,514 Speaker 4: from the finale. Plant is a great segue here. In 171 00:08:05,554 --> 00:08:09,114 Speaker 4: the final scene, Violet is sitting with the grieving Francesca 172 00:08:09,154 --> 00:08:11,674 Speaker 4: and she's working on a piece of embroidery. If you 173 00:08:11,794 --> 00:08:14,514 Speaker 4: zoom in, and of course fans on threads zoomed in, 174 00:08:14,953 --> 00:08:18,074 Speaker 4: she isn't stitching bridgeton roses, but she normally is. She's 175 00:08:18,114 --> 00:08:21,314 Speaker 4: stitching Forget Me nots and traditionally forget me nots with 176 00:08:21,393 --> 00:08:25,194 Speaker 4: a symbol of secret love and faithful remembrance. So I 177 00:08:25,194 --> 00:08:27,634 Speaker 4: think this isn't for John, it's actually for Marcus, and 178 00:08:27,674 --> 00:08:30,554 Speaker 4: it's a visual signal to the audience that while she's 179 00:08:30,594 --> 00:08:33,594 Speaker 4: rejected his public proposal to focus on the kids, she 180 00:08:33,634 --> 00:08:37,473 Speaker 4: has no intention of forgetting the man who reopened her garden. 181 00:08:37,953 --> 00:08:40,594 Speaker 4: Deep huh, Okay, this one's better. This one I really 182 00:08:40,634 --> 00:08:42,594 Speaker 4: agree with, and I want everyone to do a rewatch 183 00:08:42,634 --> 00:08:44,994 Speaker 4: so you can check this out. So, seasons one, two, 184 00:08:45,034 --> 00:08:47,354 Speaker 4: and three, every time Violet has a serious talk in 185 00:08:47,394 --> 00:08:50,754 Speaker 4: the Bridgeton drawing room, the portrait of Edmund behind her 186 00:08:51,074 --> 00:08:53,634 Speaker 4: is always prominently framed right. You can always see them 187 00:08:53,634 --> 00:08:56,914 Speaker 4: sitting together, And in the season four finale, for the 188 00:08:56,954 --> 00:08:59,874 Speaker 4: first time, the camera angle shifts, so when she speaks 189 00:08:59,914 --> 00:09:02,874 Speaker 4: to Marcus, the portrait is completely out of focus, or 190 00:09:02,874 --> 00:09:06,034 Speaker 4: it's entirely out of frame. It's a visual sort of 191 00:09:06,554 --> 00:09:09,634 Speaker 4: passing of the torch. I think it's the director's telling 192 00:09:09,714 --> 00:09:12,634 Speaker 4: us she's finally moved on. She's no longer a widow, 193 00:09:12,674 --> 00:09:14,594 Speaker 4: she's a woman. What do you think of that one? Well, 194 00:09:14,594 --> 00:09:17,634 Speaker 4: why is his not covered and John's covered? We don't 195 00:09:17,674 --> 00:09:20,194 Speaker 4: know that's probably going too deep into the fan fiction. 196 00:09:20,394 --> 00:09:21,594 Speaker 4: Maybe it's just a short term thing. 197 00:09:21,594 --> 00:09:25,114 Speaker 6: You can't have that cover over that beautiful portrait film. Okay, 198 00:09:25,154 --> 00:09:27,594 Speaker 6: this is a really deep cut. I'm not sure if 199 00:09:27,634 --> 00:09:29,474 Speaker 6: I'm going to get you on this one. This is 200 00:09:29,474 --> 00:09:34,473 Speaker 6: a theory that Violet and Marcus are secretly engaged. Okay, 201 00:09:35,074 --> 00:09:38,794 Speaker 6: so what if their breakup was a choreographed move and 202 00:09:38,834 --> 00:09:42,354 Speaker 6: they agreed off camera that a public engagement while francesc 203 00:09:42,554 --> 00:09:43,794 Speaker 6: is breathing in. 204 00:09:44,034 --> 00:09:46,194 Speaker 4: Full morning would be a scandal for the family. 205 00:09:46,594 --> 00:09:50,034 Speaker 6: They're doing a secret engagement to protect the bridges and reputation. 206 00:09:50,354 --> 00:09:52,154 Speaker 4: And here's the thing. In the scene where they have 207 00:09:52,194 --> 00:09:52,994 Speaker 4: their final talk. 208 00:09:53,514 --> 00:09:56,514 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm dreading telling you this, Marcus is seen holding 209 00:09:56,514 --> 00:09:59,874 Speaker 6: his teacup in his left hand, which is a massive 210 00:10:00,034 --> 00:10:03,794 Speaker 6: breach of regency etiquette for a right handed man. So 211 00:10:03,914 --> 00:10:06,554 Speaker 6: in the secret social codes of the eighteen hundreds, doing 212 00:10:06,594 --> 00:10:10,234 Speaker 6: something with the sinister left hand, well, speaking of love 213 00:10:10,674 --> 00:10:13,874 Speaker 6: indicated that the words being spoken were not the whole truth. 214 00:10:14,154 --> 00:10:17,874 Speaker 6: So my question to you, is she the greatest tactical 215 00:10:17,914 --> 00:10:19,554 Speaker 6: genius of the regency era? 216 00:10:19,634 --> 00:10:19,794 Speaker 1: Here? 217 00:10:19,794 --> 00:10:22,354 Speaker 6: Did you just stage manage this breakup to save her 218 00:10:22,394 --> 00:10:25,354 Speaker 6: daughter's reputation while keeping her man on the hook. 219 00:10:25,754 --> 00:10:28,274 Speaker 4: But if she did that, she's also whistled down, like 220 00:10:28,354 --> 00:10:29,953 Speaker 4: because we be so thrown off. 221 00:10:30,034 --> 00:10:30,714 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. 222 00:10:30,874 --> 00:10:32,954 Speaker 4: I don't think she's cape. I think she is so 223 00:10:33,234 --> 00:10:36,714 Speaker 4: pure of like because she's so oh flustered. I just 224 00:10:36,794 --> 00:10:40,714 Speaker 4: don't exactly. No, are you suggesting people on the internet 225 00:10:40,794 --> 00:10:41,514 Speaker 4: have too much time? 226 00:10:41,674 --> 00:10:41,994 Speaker 7: Yes? 227 00:10:42,314 --> 00:10:46,074 Speaker 5: Is that what you're She's calculated, But she's not that calculated, 228 00:10:46,394 --> 00:10:49,434 Speaker 5: Like she's still wild and free, like she was saying 229 00:10:49,514 --> 00:10:51,354 Speaker 5: like all those Easter eggs about how. 230 00:10:51,194 --> 00:10:53,434 Speaker 1: She was like Benedict when she was younger. 231 00:10:53,794 --> 00:10:54,794 Speaker 7: That's what she wants. 232 00:10:54,794 --> 00:10:57,674 Speaker 5: She wants to stay free and young. She's not like 233 00:10:57,874 --> 00:11:00,514 Speaker 5: keeping secrets like Taylor Swift. She's not Taylor Swift in 234 00:11:00,554 --> 00:11:01,274 Speaker 5: the regency era. 235 00:11:01,434 --> 00:11:02,274 Speaker 4: She's not doing that. 236 00:11:02,394 --> 00:11:02,634 Speaker 8: Yeah. 237 00:11:02,634 --> 00:11:05,514 Speaker 4: But most of the older generation are exploring this like 238 00:11:05,594 --> 00:11:08,474 Speaker 4: wild and free and young, so like they're almost reliving 239 00:11:08,634 --> 00:11:11,274 Speaker 4: or as they watch their younger generation go through the 240 00:11:11,314 --> 00:11:14,394 Speaker 4: exact same challenges that they went through, they are reliving 241 00:11:14,474 --> 00:11:17,594 Speaker 4: who they were and pining after this version of themselves. 242 00:11:17,594 --> 00:11:19,234 Speaker 4: And we see that a lot with Violet, but we 243 00:11:19,234 --> 00:11:22,074 Speaker 4: also see it with Queen Charlotte. She is reminded by 244 00:11:22,194 --> 00:11:25,594 Speaker 4: Lady Mondridge specifically as to who she once was and 245 00:11:25,634 --> 00:11:28,194 Speaker 4: what she used to stand up for. Violet also sees 246 00:11:28,194 --> 00:11:31,594 Speaker 4: herself in Francesco in becoming a widow, but Lady Danbrie 247 00:11:31,674 --> 00:11:34,594 Speaker 4: she's claiming her independence again and owning her desires and 248 00:11:34,674 --> 00:11:38,474 Speaker 4: choosing an adventure that is specifically for her on her 249 00:11:38,554 --> 00:11:40,674 Speaker 4: own term. So it feels like a season not just 250 00:11:40,714 --> 00:11:43,314 Speaker 4: about young love, but about women in every stage of 251 00:11:43,314 --> 00:11:44,834 Speaker 4: their life reclaiming who they were. 252 00:11:45,314 --> 00:11:48,634 Speaker 6: I love this so much. This looking backwards to move forward. 253 00:11:48,914 --> 00:11:51,474 Speaker 6: And Bridgeton are doing an amazing thing here because in 254 00:11:51,634 --> 00:11:54,874 Speaker 6: most regency romances, remember that once you're a dowager, so 255 00:11:54,914 --> 00:11:57,914 Speaker 6: once you're a widow, your story is over and you're 256 00:11:57,954 --> 00:12:00,874 Speaker 6: just furniture. But Season four rejects this for Violet and 257 00:12:00,914 --> 00:12:03,194 Speaker 6: rejects it for Lady Danbury. So what they've done is 258 00:12:03,194 --> 00:12:06,554 Speaker 6: they sort of included that love is a recurring choice. 259 00:12:07,234 --> 00:12:10,154 Speaker 6: Makes the stakes for the younger Bridgeton's feel so much 260 00:12:10,194 --> 00:12:12,474 Speaker 6: more real because they're actually watching their mum figure it 261 00:12:12,474 --> 00:12:13,274 Speaker 6: out in her fifties. 262 00:12:13,554 --> 00:12:14,274 Speaker 1: Yeah. 263 00:12:14,314 --> 00:12:15,314 Speaker 7: I love it so much. 264 00:12:15,354 --> 00:12:17,554 Speaker 5: It actually is the one thing that nearly made me 265 00:12:17,634 --> 00:12:20,714 Speaker 5: go maybe season four could be my favorite because there's 266 00:12:20,714 --> 00:12:23,114 Speaker 5: so much depth to that, and I think that that 267 00:12:23,274 --> 00:12:24,713 Speaker 5: kind of depth is why. 268 00:12:24,554 --> 00:12:26,953 Speaker 1: I loved the Queen Charlotte spinoff as well. 269 00:12:27,154 --> 00:12:30,194 Speaker 4: Do you think because we are hearing more about Violet 270 00:12:30,434 --> 00:12:32,754 Speaker 4: and we did get to deep dive into the Queen 271 00:12:32,754 --> 00:12:37,274 Speaker 4: and Lady Danbury. Are there talks of Violet spin on 272 00:12:37,794 --> 00:12:41,434 Speaker 4: to get the love story of her and Edmund Grace? 273 00:12:42,154 --> 00:12:42,434 Speaker 7: Yes? 274 00:12:42,474 --> 00:12:42,954 Speaker 1: There are? 275 00:12:44,554 --> 00:12:45,474 Speaker 4: Did you write them? 276 00:12:46,794 --> 00:12:48,514 Speaker 7: Maybe all of them? 277 00:12:49,794 --> 00:12:52,394 Speaker 5: Well, there is big talks about it online, like a 278 00:12:52,434 --> 00:12:55,514 Speaker 5: lot of people are saying, why is Violet having all 279 00:12:55,514 --> 00:12:58,474 Speaker 5: of these little, you know, easter eggs back to where she. 280 00:12:58,394 --> 00:13:01,194 Speaker 7: Was young and free and all of that kind of stuff. 281 00:13:01,594 --> 00:13:05,954 Speaker 5: And the only conclusion that all sane people are coming to, 282 00:13:06,714 --> 00:13:08,954 Speaker 5: which I am a part of as well, is that 283 00:13:09,114 --> 00:13:12,114 Speaker 5: we are getting a spin off of Violet and Edmund's 284 00:13:12,114 --> 00:13:14,874 Speaker 5: love story. And a comment that I read last night 285 00:13:15,074 --> 00:13:17,874 Speaker 5: which I loved was show us how it all began. 286 00:13:18,514 --> 00:13:21,994 Speaker 6: Oh yes, and we'd see Lady Danbury sleep with violets. 287 00:13:22,714 --> 00:13:24,114 Speaker 4: We'd get that whole backstory. 288 00:13:24,394 --> 00:13:27,034 Speaker 6: And also this waiting two years thing, We've talked about 289 00:13:27,034 --> 00:13:28,234 Speaker 6: it before, it's a lot. 290 00:13:28,514 --> 00:13:30,634 Speaker 4: Imagine if we only had to wait one year for 291 00:13:30,994 --> 00:13:34,274 Speaker 4: Young Filet doing surely they're producing something else. Rather than 292 00:13:34,314 --> 00:13:36,514 Speaker 4: making us wait two years, we will not make you 293 00:13:36,554 --> 00:13:38,514 Speaker 4: wait any longer. No, that's shit, that's a shit, that's 294 00:13:38,514 --> 00:13:43,234 Speaker 4: a that's a radio tour break. But speaking of breaks, 295 00:13:43,394 --> 00:13:45,234 Speaker 4: coming up after this break, we're going to get into 296 00:13:45,274 --> 00:13:48,994 Speaker 4: the bath scene and the rules of sexuality, pregnancy and 297 00:13:49,074 --> 00:13:53,554 Speaker 4: airs don't go anywhere. This was promised to be the 298 00:13:53,594 --> 00:13:57,154 Speaker 4: steamiest season of Bridgeton yet, So for me, there's two 299 00:13:57,194 --> 00:14:00,994 Speaker 4: key moments in part one. It's the staircase scene in 300 00:14:01,034 --> 00:14:04,234 Speaker 4: part to the bathtub. What do we think is hotter 301 00:14:04,594 --> 00:14:07,074 Speaker 4: bathtub or staircase bathtub? 302 00:14:07,194 --> 00:14:12,554 Speaker 5: Dar bat Well, bathtub is so much hotter than the staircase. 303 00:14:12,554 --> 00:14:13,874 Speaker 1: See, it's more romance. 304 00:14:13,994 --> 00:14:15,914 Speaker 4: But do you know what, Neither of them are actual sex. 305 00:14:16,474 --> 00:14:17,394 Speaker 7: Yeah that's true. 306 00:14:17,434 --> 00:14:20,594 Speaker 5: Actually yep, But the intention behind the bathtub is so 307 00:14:20,674 --> 00:14:21,434 Speaker 5: much hotter as well. 308 00:14:21,474 --> 00:14:26,074 Speaker 4: That's true. I'm also thrilled that they're washing jail off her. Yeah. 309 00:14:26,394 --> 00:14:27,594 Speaker 7: Actually I haven't thought about that. 310 00:14:27,954 --> 00:14:32,354 Speaker 4: It's all I thought about. Yeah. 311 00:14:32,514 --> 00:14:33,994 Speaker 7: No, the bathtub takes the cake. 312 00:14:34,034 --> 00:14:36,194 Speaker 4: And it's the first time that we see Benedict who's 313 00:14:36,234 --> 00:14:39,154 Speaker 4: been this like sex god sex party guy. Like he's 314 00:14:39,194 --> 00:14:41,914 Speaker 4: really looking like someone who's had a lot of experience, Yeah, 315 00:14:42,234 --> 00:14:43,274 Speaker 4: which I appreciated. 316 00:14:43,834 --> 00:14:46,434 Speaker 6: I would say neither. I would say the first time 317 00:14:46,474 --> 00:14:48,834 Speaker 6: they had sex in the bed when she lost her virginity, 318 00:14:49,034 --> 00:14:51,994 Speaker 6: And I'll make a big call best loss of virginity 319 00:14:52,034 --> 00:14:54,754 Speaker 6: scene in any TV show or movie I've ever seen. Really, 320 00:14:54,914 --> 00:14:57,554 Speaker 6: I was thinking about why, and it's because when she 321 00:14:57,634 --> 00:14:58,914 Speaker 6: says slow. 322 00:14:58,674 --> 00:15:00,514 Speaker 4: At first, please, I've heard this can hurt. 323 00:15:01,634 --> 00:15:03,594 Speaker 6: This is the first time that we have seen in 324 00:15:03,634 --> 00:15:07,874 Speaker 6: Bridgington proper consent when losing a virginity. Sophie had an 325 00:15:07,954 --> 00:15:11,394 Speaker 6: understanding of what sex is. Daphnie and Penn had no 326 00:15:11,434 --> 00:15:12,594 Speaker 6: idea what was coming to them. 327 00:15:12,874 --> 00:15:13,954 Speaker 7: That's so true. 328 00:15:14,234 --> 00:15:16,314 Speaker 4: So I had to watch it twice. 329 00:15:16,514 --> 00:15:19,314 Speaker 6: She had to guys, I had to watch it twice 330 00:15:19,434 --> 00:15:21,274 Speaker 6: because I was trying to work out what made it 331 00:15:21,314 --> 00:15:23,954 Speaker 6: so special. And what I've realized it is is it's 332 00:15:23,994 --> 00:15:27,314 Speaker 6: the small gestures. So it's like Benedict pulling the pillow 333 00:15:27,434 --> 00:15:29,114 Speaker 6: under her head so that she can lie on it. 334 00:15:29,274 --> 00:15:31,714 Speaker 4: This sort of stuff matters to women men listening. 335 00:15:32,274 --> 00:15:35,034 Speaker 6: It's like green flags flapping in my face, like it 336 00:15:35,154 --> 00:15:39,274 Speaker 6: was so gorgeous. And also there's a production reason why 337 00:15:39,314 --> 00:15:41,314 Speaker 6: this is so hot. So in season one and season 338 00:15:41,354 --> 00:15:44,514 Speaker 6: three rewatch the sex scenes as well. They show the 339 00:15:44,554 --> 00:15:46,514 Speaker 6: whole sex scene from start to climax. 340 00:15:46,594 --> 00:15:46,754 Speaker 1: Right. 341 00:15:47,114 --> 00:15:48,754 Speaker 4: The camera doesn't cut away, which means. 342 00:15:48,554 --> 00:15:51,314 Speaker 6: That Colin and Simon have to rush go quite fast 343 00:15:51,394 --> 00:15:54,034 Speaker 6: because they didn't want them to have really long sex scenes. Right, 344 00:15:54,434 --> 00:15:58,314 Speaker 6: but Benedict and Sophie scenes cut away just enough so 345 00:15:58,474 --> 00:16:01,434 Speaker 6: me as the viewer, I can picture them having fun 346 00:16:01,554 --> 00:16:04,074 Speaker 6: for any sort of length of time that I wanted 347 00:16:04,114 --> 00:16:04,754 Speaker 6: to imagine. 348 00:16:04,834 --> 00:16:08,154 Speaker 4: It's more than snapshots. It's just moment. So I felt 349 00:16:08,154 --> 00:16:10,074 Speaker 4: like I was just seeing a little bit of all 350 00:16:10,114 --> 00:16:10,834 Speaker 4: this that went on. 351 00:16:11,514 --> 00:16:14,074 Speaker 6: And can I just say there was no need to 352 00:16:14,114 --> 00:16:17,674 Speaker 6: explain the pinnacle to Sophie because he is a seasoned 353 00:16:17,714 --> 00:16:20,834 Speaker 6: lover and she had a great time every time they met. 354 00:16:21,194 --> 00:16:23,394 Speaker 4: I feel like that's one of the most unrealistic things though, 355 00:16:23,394 --> 00:16:25,594 Speaker 4: of letting her reach a pinnacle on her first time 356 00:16:25,674 --> 00:16:26,194 Speaker 4: having sex. 357 00:16:26,554 --> 00:16:27,674 Speaker 1: True, But then it's him. 358 00:16:27,794 --> 00:16:29,914 Speaker 7: He's a professional in this kind of thing. 359 00:16:30,314 --> 00:16:32,714 Speaker 4: Every guy thinks that he can like make He's like, oh, 360 00:16:32,754 --> 00:16:35,194 Speaker 4: you've never reached a pinnacle before. I bet I could 361 00:16:35,274 --> 00:16:39,154 Speaker 4: do it. I'll let them have that, sad little I'll 362 00:16:39,234 --> 00:16:41,314 Speaker 4: let them have it. I'll let them happen this season 363 00:16:41,354 --> 00:16:43,994 Speaker 4: does go into I guess sexual health a lot more 364 00:16:44,074 --> 00:16:46,794 Speaker 4: than it has in previous seasons, Like we see her 365 00:16:46,834 --> 00:16:49,914 Speaker 4: with her little calendar marking out waiting for her period, 366 00:16:49,994 --> 00:16:54,714 Speaker 4: as well as obviously Francesca's storyline of having to check 367 00:16:54,834 --> 00:16:58,914 Speaker 4: that she was pregnant. Has there been any memes or think, Okay, 368 00:16:58,954 --> 00:17:01,474 Speaker 4: I'm looking at live and she's already laughing the little 369 00:17:01,514 --> 00:17:04,994 Speaker 4: calendar of crossing out things. Yeah, the regency blow at. 370 00:17:04,914 --> 00:17:08,714 Speaker 5: Right, Yes, so there hasn't been that many memes about that. 371 00:17:08,874 --> 00:17:12,273 Speaker 5: There's been more memes, well not memes, just comments about 372 00:17:12,314 --> 00:17:16,273 Speaker 5: the fact that Bridgeton ignores the fact that there was 373 00:17:16,714 --> 00:17:18,514 Speaker 5: no penicillin back in the day. 374 00:17:19,034 --> 00:17:20,914 Speaker 7: There was no antibiotics back in the. 375 00:17:20,914 --> 00:17:25,474 Speaker 5: Day, and Benedict had a very free and liberated lifestyle 376 00:17:25,514 --> 00:17:28,434 Speaker 5: and there's no way that he would have gotten out 377 00:17:28,434 --> 00:17:29,474 Speaker 5: of that unscathed. 378 00:17:30,634 --> 00:17:32,834 Speaker 6: He does make a little joke about pulling out to 379 00:17:32,874 --> 00:17:36,793 Speaker 6: his mum really early on in part one that but 380 00:17:36,834 --> 00:17:38,994 Speaker 6: how did none of these Bridgeton boys have any babies 381 00:17:38,994 --> 00:17:41,914 Speaker 6: out of wedlock? Truly all have a lot of sex. 382 00:17:42,114 --> 00:17:44,074 Speaker 5: That's actually that needs to be a spin that happens 383 00:17:44,074 --> 00:17:46,033 Speaker 5: in one of the seasons. There's just no way one 384 00:17:46,074 --> 00:17:48,074 Speaker 5: of them doesn't. I would like to read you some 385 00:17:48,114 --> 00:17:49,074 Speaker 5: comments that were my. 386 00:17:49,034 --> 00:17:50,514 Speaker 4: Favorites love comments. Yep. 387 00:17:50,594 --> 00:17:54,114 Speaker 5: Number one, Benedict would have had syphilis, so yes. Number 388 00:17:54,114 --> 00:17:56,634 Speaker 5: two that man would not have had clear skin. 389 00:18:00,474 --> 00:18:03,634 Speaker 4: He drinks no water. It's all wine and whiskey and 390 00:18:03,674 --> 00:18:04,714 Speaker 4: boobs exactly. 391 00:18:05,034 --> 00:18:08,874 Speaker 5: They all look far too healthy, yes for their lifestyle. 392 00:18:08,994 --> 00:18:12,273 Speaker 5: And then Bridgeton is fantasy because no one has a rash. 393 00:18:12,674 --> 00:18:14,513 Speaker 4: Oh. 394 00:18:15,434 --> 00:18:18,594 Speaker 5: I was like yeah, and that kind of really opened 395 00:18:18,594 --> 00:18:18,954 Speaker 5: my eyes. 396 00:18:19,034 --> 00:18:21,754 Speaker 4: I was like, true, guys, true, yeah. One of the 397 00:18:21,754 --> 00:18:23,634 Speaker 4: things of this season because Benedict does go to all 398 00:18:23,634 --> 00:18:26,074 Speaker 4: these sex parties, getting all of these, you know, venereal 399 00:18:26,114 --> 00:18:29,434 Speaker 4: diseases potentially, but Benedict has been very festive and fluid, 400 00:18:29,434 --> 00:18:31,354 Speaker 4: but it kind of doesn't get explored at all in 401 00:18:31,394 --> 00:18:36,353 Speaker 4: this season. His queerness or his fluid gender identity, no 402 00:18:36,354 --> 00:18:39,114 Speaker 4: non gender, it doesn't get explored at all in this season. 403 00:18:39,634 --> 00:18:42,073 Speaker 6: You know what I thought was so sexy when Sophie 404 00:18:42,074 --> 00:18:45,074 Speaker 6: says to Benedict, I cannot risk it yet because while 405 00:18:45,074 --> 00:18:47,794 Speaker 6: there's not so across their fertile period like we are 406 00:18:47,834 --> 00:18:50,194 Speaker 6: these days, she does know that they're not married yet, 407 00:18:50,194 --> 00:18:51,834 Speaker 6: and you know what, she still doesn't want to have 408 00:18:51,874 --> 00:18:54,354 Speaker 6: a child out of wedlock, and he says, then we 409 00:18:54,394 --> 00:18:54,674 Speaker 6: will not. 410 00:18:54,914 --> 00:18:57,754 Speaker 4: I thought that was so hot. There was no pressure, 411 00:18:58,074 --> 00:19:00,714 Speaker 4: there was no even trying to convince her. I thought 412 00:19:00,714 --> 00:19:03,313 Speaker 4: it was gorgeous. The hottest thing is respect and consent. 413 00:19:03,594 --> 00:19:04,394 Speaker 7: Yeah, I reckon. 414 00:19:04,434 --> 00:19:07,273 Speaker 6: The sexiest thing though, wasn't even a sex scene. It 415 00:19:07,314 --> 00:19:09,994 Speaker 6: was when Sophie said I cannot risk it yet about 416 00:19:10,034 --> 00:19:12,194 Speaker 6: having sex with Benedict and now we all know about 417 00:19:12,194 --> 00:19:14,234 Speaker 6: ovulation these days in a way that she didn't, but 418 00:19:14,274 --> 00:19:16,074 Speaker 6: she still doesn't want to have a child out of wedlock. 419 00:19:16,354 --> 00:19:19,074 Speaker 4: And then he says, then we will not. I thought 420 00:19:19,074 --> 00:19:19,834 Speaker 4: it was so hot. 421 00:19:19,874 --> 00:19:22,074 Speaker 6: He didn't try and pressure her at all, didn't even 422 00:19:22,114 --> 00:19:23,034 Speaker 6: try to convince her. 423 00:19:23,514 --> 00:19:27,674 Speaker 4: Amazing. The sexiest thing is respect, just respecting a woman. 424 00:19:27,754 --> 00:19:30,314 Speaker 4: They'll be like great, But look he is for all 425 00:19:30,354 --> 00:19:34,754 Speaker 4: of his festivities. He is an open, trustworthy person and 426 00:19:34,794 --> 00:19:38,154 Speaker 4: he has been open to Sophie about his past within 427 00:19:38,514 --> 00:19:42,033 Speaker 4: the bohemian lifestyle. Yes, Jess Brownell told us that he 428 00:19:42,034 --> 00:19:43,754 Speaker 4: was going to address it in part two, and I 429 00:19:43,794 --> 00:19:45,954 Speaker 4: was really interested to see how that was going to be, 430 00:19:45,954 --> 00:19:48,794 Speaker 4: because also the queer storylines are the most sort of 431 00:19:48,874 --> 00:19:50,994 Speaker 4: active part of the British and hashag on ex at 432 00:19:50,994 --> 00:19:54,033 Speaker 4: the moment, so obviously in this chat, he's telling Sophie 433 00:19:54,034 --> 00:19:56,634 Speaker 4: about his past with Paul and Tilly, and this is 434 00:19:56,674 --> 00:19:59,033 Speaker 4: a really big departure from the books, and it shows 435 00:19:59,074 --> 00:20:02,194 Speaker 4: that his fluidity isn't a phase, it's part of his 436 00:20:02,314 --> 00:20:04,994 Speaker 4: identity and it's important for him to make sure that 437 00:20:05,034 --> 00:20:07,954 Speaker 4: she understands makes him sort of more relatable, I think 438 00:20:07,954 --> 00:20:10,434 Speaker 4: as well, but it also shows that he trusts Sophie 439 00:20:10,434 --> 00:20:13,594 Speaker 4: with his whole self and not this gentleman persona that 440 00:20:13,674 --> 00:20:16,553 Speaker 4: he's needed to be his entire life. And a lot 441 00:20:16,554 --> 00:20:18,754 Speaker 4: of people are discussing the reason she's so okay with it. 442 00:20:18,794 --> 00:20:21,874 Speaker 4: I mean, she's obviously a wonderful open person, but it's 443 00:20:21,954 --> 00:20:24,074 Speaker 4: not what everyone would have thought in this period of history. 444 00:20:24,114 --> 00:20:26,074 Speaker 4: And she replies that love is always a thing to 445 00:20:26,114 --> 00:20:29,274 Speaker 4: be proud of, that the world needs more of. Now 446 00:20:29,434 --> 00:20:33,754 Speaker 4: we all love Alfie, right, Alfie Sophie's I realized after 447 00:20:33,794 --> 00:20:36,994 Speaker 4: watching part two that his role as the gay best friend, 448 00:20:37,034 --> 00:20:38,634 Speaker 4: and we know he is because he makes a little 449 00:20:38,714 --> 00:20:40,794 Speaker 4: joke about how he would like to sleep with Benedict. 450 00:20:41,154 --> 00:20:44,514 Speaker 4: It's really important to Benedict and Sophie's relationship because Alfie 451 00:20:44,554 --> 00:20:46,994 Speaker 4: is clearly out to Sophie to make that joke to her. 452 00:20:47,314 --> 00:20:50,154 Speaker 4: We never see him dating anyone, but the fact that 453 00:20:50,194 --> 00:20:53,194 Speaker 4: when Benedict tells Sophie about his sexuality, it tracks that 454 00:20:53,234 --> 00:20:55,674 Speaker 4: Sophie's not bothered by it because she already loves a 455 00:20:55,674 --> 00:20:56,914 Speaker 4: man who loves men. 456 00:20:57,154 --> 00:20:58,594 Speaker 7: Oh that's so sweet. 457 00:20:59,554 --> 00:21:01,194 Speaker 4: Coming up after this break, we're going to go into 458 00:21:01,234 --> 00:21:03,594 Speaker 4: the character that was a little bit disappointing to us, 459 00:21:03,674 --> 00:21:05,954 Speaker 4: as well as who we think the next season of 460 00:21:05,954 --> 00:21:10,354 Speaker 4: Bridgeton will be about. One of the new characters in 461 00:21:10,354 --> 00:21:14,154 Speaker 4: this season of Bridgeton is Araminta, who is the stepmother 462 00:21:14,434 --> 00:21:17,354 Speaker 4: to Sophie. I thought she came in and it was 463 00:21:17,394 --> 00:21:20,714 Speaker 4: this incredible setup for this life that they'd had, and 464 00:21:20,754 --> 00:21:24,154 Speaker 4: then they just kind of missed the mark with attention. 465 00:21:24,434 --> 00:21:26,434 Speaker 4: For me, I expected her to be in it more, 466 00:21:26,514 --> 00:21:29,474 Speaker 4: especially when the scenes that they're in it together, like 467 00:21:29,554 --> 00:21:32,434 Speaker 4: the shoe clip scene and the court house scene and 468 00:21:32,474 --> 00:21:36,634 Speaker 4: the jail was so fiery. Yeah, but then everything kind 469 00:21:36,634 --> 00:21:37,354 Speaker 4: of got resolved. 470 00:21:37,514 --> 00:21:40,274 Speaker 5: Do you know what I actually thought about this is that, 471 00:21:40,434 --> 00:21:43,194 Speaker 5: obviously this season is based off of fairy tale Cinderella, 472 00:21:43,954 --> 00:21:47,234 Speaker 5: nothing really felt fairytale esque. It's still very much felt 473 00:21:47,274 --> 00:21:49,474 Speaker 5: like it was a story of their own except for 474 00:21:49,514 --> 00:21:51,553 Speaker 5: her character. I was like, oh, yeah, you are the 475 00:21:51,594 --> 00:21:55,273 Speaker 5: evil stepmother. That's just your character to me. Whereas Sophie 476 00:21:55,314 --> 00:21:57,874 Speaker 5: didn't feel like Cinderella for too much of it, you know, 477 00:21:57,914 --> 00:21:59,634 Speaker 5: Benedict didn't feel like Prince Charming. 478 00:22:00,034 --> 00:22:02,154 Speaker 1: So I feel like that's where they missed the mark. 479 00:22:02,394 --> 00:22:04,674 Speaker 4: Is she more evil in the books or is there 480 00:22:04,674 --> 00:22:07,874 Speaker 4: more tension or fights or how do they deal with 481 00:22:07,874 --> 00:22:10,434 Speaker 4: that in the books, Georgie, Well, she's absolutely more evil 482 00:22:10,434 --> 00:22:10,914 Speaker 4: in the books. 483 00:22:10,914 --> 00:22:14,474 Speaker 6: I think book Benofi's that's what we call think that 484 00:22:14,514 --> 00:22:16,594 Speaker 6: her portrayal in the show fell a bit flat. So 485 00:22:16,674 --> 00:22:21,114 Speaker 6: in the book she's absolutely terrifying. So she literally threatened 486 00:22:21,154 --> 00:22:24,994 Speaker 6: Sophie with the workhouse and physical violence. In the show's version, 487 00:22:25,074 --> 00:22:27,794 Speaker 6: she spends a lot of time talking about ruining Sophie, 488 00:22:27,834 --> 00:22:31,313 Speaker 6: but we don't actually see much action on it. I 489 00:22:31,354 --> 00:22:33,754 Speaker 6: read this great thing on Reddit where someone said Araminta 490 00:22:33,834 --> 00:22:36,554 Speaker 6: is a chihuahua barking at a golden retriever. There was 491 00:22:36,634 --> 00:22:39,354 Speaker 6: no doubt that Benedict was going to win, so the tension. 492 00:22:39,034 --> 00:22:41,754 Speaker 4: Was zero, and I I agree. Katie Leung is an 493 00:22:41,754 --> 00:22:44,354 Speaker 4: amazing actress and I think she did a great job, credible. 494 00:22:44,554 --> 00:22:46,754 Speaker 4: I think it's the character that was the problem. And 495 00:22:46,794 --> 00:22:50,034 Speaker 4: also Katie Leong has a very strong Scottish accent. Her 496 00:22:50,034 --> 00:22:52,594 Speaker 4: English accent was pristine. You know, It's like you watch 497 00:22:52,634 --> 00:22:54,514 Speaker 4: a performance by someone you go, I wish they had 498 00:22:54,554 --> 00:22:57,034 Speaker 4: something more to let them fly, because you could see 499 00:22:57,034 --> 00:22:59,794 Speaker 4: it in her performance, even the way she looked, the 500 00:22:59,834 --> 00:23:03,074 Speaker 4: physical work that she had done, like you know, sometimes 501 00:23:03,114 --> 00:23:05,234 Speaker 4: actors do animal studies, and I was like, oh, I 502 00:23:05,274 --> 00:23:07,834 Speaker 4: wonder if she was like did like a chin, Like 503 00:23:07,874 --> 00:23:12,674 Speaker 4: how she moved with such precision and creeping up and things. 504 00:23:13,034 --> 00:23:15,234 Speaker 4: I could just see so much work in her character 505 00:23:15,274 --> 00:23:16,594 Speaker 4: and I wish she had more to do. 506 00:23:16,954 --> 00:23:20,714 Speaker 5: It was almost like she was too evil to fit in, 507 00:23:21,194 --> 00:23:24,034 Speaker 5: maybe because we're not used to having really really. 508 00:23:23,834 --> 00:23:25,754 Speaker 4: Awful, not silly Cresita evil. 509 00:23:25,954 --> 00:23:28,474 Speaker 6: Yes, exactly what I will say is in the book 510 00:23:28,474 --> 00:23:31,474 Speaker 6: you don't really find out why she hates Sophie so much, 511 00:23:31,954 --> 00:23:33,914 Speaker 6: and you don't find out in the show, except that 512 00:23:33,994 --> 00:23:35,954 Speaker 6: I really liked the scene where we looked back in 513 00:23:35,954 --> 00:23:39,194 Speaker 6: the past and she rocks up with her daughters to 514 00:23:39,274 --> 00:23:42,474 Speaker 6: finally be with her new husband, and suddenly there's a 515 00:23:42,514 --> 00:23:45,594 Speaker 6: ward that she knew nothing about. I mean that absolutely 516 00:23:45,634 --> 00:23:49,434 Speaker 6: stuns me. Her reaction and response to that horrendous, but 517 00:23:49,874 --> 00:23:53,954 Speaker 6: I mean pretty shocking. I do have a theory, though, 518 00:23:53,994 --> 00:23:56,474 Speaker 6: just based on what you were saying about Cresita, about 519 00:23:56,514 --> 00:23:59,834 Speaker 6: why this is landed quite poorly. So for three seasons 520 00:23:59,914 --> 00:24:02,714 Speaker 6: we watch Cresita be the mean girl of the ton right, 521 00:24:03,274 --> 00:24:06,194 Speaker 6: and in season four she's given this huge redemption arc. 522 00:24:06,394 --> 00:24:08,554 Speaker 6: The disappointment comes from the fact that Aaron Minta was 523 00:24:08,594 --> 00:24:10,674 Speaker 6: then introduced to take over the role of the villain 524 00:24:10,794 --> 00:24:13,914 Speaker 6: from Cresaita, who's all a bit light and fluffy this season, 525 00:24:14,314 --> 00:24:16,874 Speaker 6: but it didn't have any of the nuance of Cresita, 526 00:24:17,514 --> 00:24:19,954 Speaker 6: And I think after we've seen a really complex antagonist 527 00:24:19,994 --> 00:24:23,273 Speaker 6: like Cressida, Aaron Minta felt really two dimensional. 528 00:24:23,354 --> 00:24:23,914 Speaker 4: Do you agree? 529 00:24:24,034 --> 00:24:26,553 Speaker 6: Yeah, I sort of felt like it was a backward 530 00:24:26,554 --> 00:24:28,674 Speaker 6: step in the show's writing. And I don't have much 531 00:24:28,714 --> 00:24:30,354 Speaker 6: to criticize of this masterpiece. 532 00:24:30,714 --> 00:24:33,594 Speaker 4: Okay, we're getting to the meaty part of this episode, 533 00:24:33,634 --> 00:24:35,434 Speaker 4: the thing that everyone is talking about, the thing that 534 00:24:35,434 --> 00:24:37,994 Speaker 4: we are talking about, who is next. 535 00:24:38,314 --> 00:24:40,074 Speaker 6: The best thing about this is that I've spoken to 536 00:24:40,074 --> 00:24:42,274 Speaker 6: both of you individually, and you haven't spoken to each other, 537 00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:44,033 Speaker 6: and I happen to know you disagree, So this. 538 00:24:44,154 --> 00:24:44,754 Speaker 4: Is going to be fun. 539 00:24:44,834 --> 00:24:45,553 Speaker 7: I'm so excited. 540 00:24:45,634 --> 00:24:48,674 Speaker 4: So the choices are Eloise or Francesca, and Live and 541 00:24:48,714 --> 00:24:50,674 Speaker 4: I do have different theories that we're going to debate, 542 00:24:50,874 --> 00:24:53,714 Speaker 4: and Georgie is going to adjudicate us but also educate 543 00:24:53,834 --> 00:24:56,794 Speaker 4: us with her book knowledge Live. Who are you making 544 00:24:56,834 --> 00:25:01,834 Speaker 4: the case for Eloise? You're incorrect? Okay, all right, Live 545 00:25:01,914 --> 00:25:02,474 Speaker 4: convince us. 546 00:25:02,634 --> 00:25:05,394 Speaker 5: Yeah right, okay, I've done a deep dive and everyone 547 00:25:05,394 --> 00:25:07,034 Speaker 5: in the internet agrees with me. By the way, great, 548 00:25:07,634 --> 00:25:09,674 Speaker 5: if you found anyone that agrees with you, they're wrong. 549 00:25:10,234 --> 00:25:12,234 Speaker 4: I'm not on the internet, so I don't know. No, 550 00:25:12,274 --> 00:25:13,154 Speaker 4: I am continue. 551 00:25:13,314 --> 00:25:15,234 Speaker 5: There is a creator that does a lot of deep 552 00:25:15,274 --> 00:25:18,594 Speaker 5: dives into who will be the next main character of Bridgeton. 553 00:25:18,874 --> 00:25:22,394 Speaker 5: Her name is indy Enna Reads, and she actually goes 554 00:25:22,554 --> 00:25:24,994 Speaker 5: mathematically into screen time. 555 00:25:25,594 --> 00:25:27,513 Speaker 4: So that's clever. 556 00:25:28,034 --> 00:25:30,954 Speaker 6: I know every single thing in Bridgington is deliberate, so 557 00:25:30,994 --> 00:25:31,554 Speaker 6: this is clever. 558 00:25:31,674 --> 00:25:32,034 Speaker 2: I agree. 559 00:25:32,034 --> 00:25:34,994 Speaker 4: Okay, stats, I don't know. I don't have any stats exactly. 560 00:25:35,154 --> 00:25:35,874 Speaker 7: I can't prepared. 561 00:25:36,794 --> 00:25:40,554 Speaker 5: She analyzes the screen time of both Francesca and Eloise. 562 00:25:41,194 --> 00:25:45,354 Speaker 5: Francesca had two minutes and twenty three seconds on screen 563 00:25:45,594 --> 00:25:49,714 Speaker 5: that aided to her plot, so it wasn't just screen time. Okay, 564 00:25:50,274 --> 00:25:54,194 Speaker 5: Eloise had five minutes and thirty six seconds. 565 00:25:54,714 --> 00:25:55,794 Speaker 1: She wins that round. 566 00:25:56,314 --> 00:25:58,554 Speaker 4: Can I ask the question, though, what is her plot? 567 00:25:59,114 --> 00:26:02,234 Speaker 5: Eloise's yes, just becoming a little bit more likable, so 568 00:26:02,274 --> 00:26:04,634 Speaker 5: we can kind of believe that she will want to 569 00:26:04,674 --> 00:26:05,874 Speaker 5: get married in the next season. 570 00:26:06,514 --> 00:26:09,434 Speaker 6: Yeah, this show, I ha spent four seasons of building 571 00:26:09,474 --> 00:26:12,554 Speaker 6: Eloi's sphear of being left behind, and now she's really 572 00:26:12,634 --> 00:26:15,034 Speaker 6: left behind. Her favorite brother is getting married as well, 573 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:16,754 Speaker 6: so not only her best friend older brother. 574 00:26:17,154 --> 00:26:18,354 Speaker 4: Yes, her favorite brother. 575 00:26:18,234 --> 00:26:21,394 Speaker 1: Is Thank you, Georgie, you're helping me out. 576 00:26:22,434 --> 00:26:24,714 Speaker 4: What else have you got to live? Okay? 577 00:26:25,434 --> 00:26:29,634 Speaker 7: The wedding m hm, yes, do you know what Kate says? 578 00:26:29,714 --> 00:26:31,073 Speaker 4: Yes? I do know what Kate says. 579 00:26:31,314 --> 00:26:34,353 Speaker 5: She turns around and goes whose wedding will we be 580 00:26:34,394 --> 00:26:38,594 Speaker 5: going to next? Eloise replies, I do love weddings. 581 00:26:39,314 --> 00:26:42,714 Speaker 4: She loves to attend them. Correct, So does the camera 582 00:26:42,794 --> 00:26:44,034 Speaker 4: go to her first? Yes? 583 00:26:44,154 --> 00:26:44,314 Speaker 8: Right? 584 00:26:45,474 --> 00:26:47,554 Speaker 4: I mean in Bridgeton World, that's pretty telling. 585 00:26:47,634 --> 00:26:49,554 Speaker 5: They're not putting that in there for a mistake. Why 586 00:26:49,594 --> 00:26:51,674 Speaker 5: would they put that in there? It doesn't make sense. 587 00:26:52,114 --> 00:26:54,114 Speaker 5: They just could have not panned to her at all. 588 00:26:55,074 --> 00:26:56,754 Speaker 5: I'm passionate about this. 589 00:26:56,914 --> 00:26:59,034 Speaker 4: I expected she would have said a real smart ass 590 00:26:59,034 --> 00:26:59,634 Speaker 4: comment there, and. 591 00:26:59,594 --> 00:27:02,274 Speaker 1: She did exactly quite well. 592 00:27:02,554 --> 00:27:05,114 Speaker 7: I've got to say they could have just not had 593 00:27:05,114 --> 00:27:05,834 Speaker 7: that line at all. 594 00:27:05,994 --> 00:27:08,954 Speaker 1: Why did Kate I have to even ask that, who cares? 595 00:27:09,274 --> 00:27:09,954 Speaker 4: Who cares? 596 00:27:10,274 --> 00:27:14,234 Speaker 5: Just enjoy the wedding you're at now, live in the moment, guys, Yeah, exactly, 597 00:27:14,314 --> 00:27:16,914 Speaker 5: that's a bread crumb. Okay, what else off the back 598 00:27:16,954 --> 00:27:21,634 Speaker 5: of this speaking about marriage? Francesca and Michaela can't get married, 599 00:27:22,154 --> 00:27:26,194 Speaker 5: So that line itself is only alluding to the fact 600 00:27:26,874 --> 00:27:32,114 Speaker 5: that it could be Eloise or wild Card Violet because 601 00:27:32,634 --> 00:27:36,194 Speaker 5: that scene ends on a close up of Violet's face 602 00:27:36,634 --> 00:27:40,194 Speaker 5: looking into the distance like she's thinking about the future. 603 00:27:40,434 --> 00:27:44,514 Speaker 5: So that also links back to my argument that we're 604 00:27:44,514 --> 00:27:45,674 Speaker 5: getting a Violet spin off. 605 00:27:46,034 --> 00:27:49,314 Speaker 6: Okay, So, Jess Brownell and Chris Bendusen have always said 606 00:27:49,314 --> 00:27:51,754 Speaker 6: there's a season for each Bridge and child and that 607 00:27:51,874 --> 00:27:55,154 Speaker 6: might still be true, But are we waiting longer? They've 608 00:27:55,194 --> 00:27:56,754 Speaker 6: got to hurry up, Greg Green hyas, and they're going 609 00:27:56,754 --> 00:27:57,994 Speaker 6: to age out if they don't be quicker. 610 00:27:58,074 --> 00:27:59,994 Speaker 5: I do have a theory on that, but okay, so 611 00:28:00,114 --> 00:28:01,954 Speaker 5: I just want to Okay, I'm gonna be really nice 612 00:28:01,994 --> 00:28:03,034 Speaker 5: and then I'm also going. 613 00:28:02,954 --> 00:28:05,674 Speaker 7: To debate for your side. I'm gonna this. 614 00:28:05,594 --> 00:28:09,033 Speaker 5: Is an olive branch Oka off the back of Violet, 615 00:28:09,074 --> 00:28:12,194 Speaker 5: potentially having a season that gives us like a year 616 00:28:12,714 --> 00:28:15,834 Speaker 5: for the viewer to have a break from Francesca, to 617 00:28:15,874 --> 00:28:17,874 Speaker 5: be like, Okay, she's had her time to mourn. 618 00:28:18,194 --> 00:28:20,634 Speaker 1: Maybe not in the actual storyline. 619 00:28:20,034 --> 00:28:22,914 Speaker 5: But for us or it won't feel weird. So maybe 620 00:28:22,954 --> 00:28:25,674 Speaker 5: then her season could come after violence. 621 00:28:26,154 --> 00:28:30,273 Speaker 4: Okay. In terms of yes, she is emotional. She is 622 00:28:30,474 --> 00:28:34,154 Speaker 4: fully loaded emotionally, so in terms of like script development, 623 00:28:34,234 --> 00:28:36,834 Speaker 4: character development, you have a character that it's a loaded 624 00:28:36,834 --> 00:28:39,514 Speaker 4: gun and you can just go. So she is full 625 00:28:39,514 --> 00:28:43,394 Speaker 4: of storyline and we've just spent a season caring about her, 626 00:28:43,394 --> 00:28:45,554 Speaker 4: whereas we didn't really care about her before apart from 627 00:28:45,594 --> 00:28:49,514 Speaker 4: her finding John and for me, Elois had no storyline. 628 00:28:49,674 --> 00:28:52,794 Speaker 4: But apart from becoming the comic character, becoming the Benedict, 629 00:28:52,834 --> 00:28:55,594 Speaker 4: which I enjoyed, and also her on the press junket, 630 00:28:55,874 --> 00:28:59,314 Speaker 4: she is the comedic character as well. People love her, 631 00:28:59,394 --> 00:29:01,074 Speaker 4: so I do feel like they're going to keep her 632 00:29:01,114 --> 00:29:03,714 Speaker 4: around not married, because she's going to become boring after 633 00:29:03,714 --> 00:29:04,234 Speaker 4: she's married. 634 00:29:04,314 --> 00:29:06,474 Speaker 7: Literally just come up with an argument from what you're saying. 635 00:29:06,514 --> 00:29:10,194 Speaker 5: Okay, I have barely seen the actress that plays Francesca 636 00:29:10,354 --> 00:29:11,154 Speaker 5: in the press tour. 637 00:29:11,474 --> 00:29:13,154 Speaker 7: All I've seen is Eloise Clips. 638 00:29:13,194 --> 00:29:14,594 Speaker 4: I have seen her in the press tour. 639 00:29:14,674 --> 00:29:17,194 Speaker 6: Well, they traveled the world and sadly didn't come to 640 00:29:17,234 --> 00:29:20,034 Speaker 6: Australia and Luke Thompson yeh and her and Hannah Dodd 641 00:29:20,114 --> 00:29:20,714 Speaker 6: went to Spain. 642 00:29:22,074 --> 00:29:24,674 Speaker 4: Sorry about your theory. And also because we know that 643 00:29:25,034 --> 00:29:29,634 Speaker 4: we know we no production really does take into account 644 00:29:29,754 --> 00:29:34,074 Speaker 4: people becoming fan favorites, and Hannah Dodd has become more 645 00:29:34,234 --> 00:29:36,794 Speaker 4: liked over the course of this season. Also, the way 646 00:29:36,794 --> 00:29:40,834 Speaker 4: that they're starting to shoot her is quite regal and 647 00:29:40,874 --> 00:29:42,754 Speaker 4: how they're like, I really feel like the lighting team 648 00:29:42,834 --> 00:29:45,914 Speaker 4: just had a great time with her because she's so beautiful. 649 00:29:46,594 --> 00:29:47,514 Speaker 4: Isn't she stunning? 650 00:29:47,594 --> 00:29:48,074 Speaker 1: Stunning? 651 00:29:48,154 --> 00:29:50,314 Speaker 4: So I do think her storyline is right for expansion, 652 00:29:50,554 --> 00:29:52,954 Speaker 4: because if you have all of this building up in 653 00:29:53,034 --> 00:29:55,194 Speaker 4: terms of her, like she goes away off screen and 654 00:29:55,234 --> 00:29:57,074 Speaker 4: becomes okay and then comes back, it's like, I want 655 00:29:57,074 --> 00:30:00,074 Speaker 4: to see her wrestle with all of the confusing feelings 656 00:30:00,554 --> 00:30:03,554 Speaker 4: that's true on screen, and I think it would be 657 00:30:03,594 --> 00:30:06,114 Speaker 4: a bit of lack of better words, blue balls. 658 00:30:06,514 --> 00:30:09,194 Speaker 1: You know you've come in with a strong argument and. 659 00:30:09,154 --> 00:30:10,314 Speaker 4: I didn't have stats though. 660 00:30:10,434 --> 00:30:13,634 Speaker 5: No, it was beautiful and I really appreciate it. You nearly, 661 00:30:13,994 --> 00:30:16,994 Speaker 5: you nearly changed my mind, But you haven't because literally, 662 00:30:17,394 --> 00:30:20,034 Speaker 5: Georgie said in the last episode she needs to mourn 663 00:30:20,074 --> 00:30:20,594 Speaker 5: for a year. 664 00:30:20,754 --> 00:30:22,194 Speaker 1: It would be weird if she was. 665 00:30:22,194 --> 00:30:26,154 Speaker 4: Mourning, and what good tension if she has to mourn 666 00:30:26,234 --> 00:30:28,874 Speaker 4: for a year and she has feelings for someone else 667 00:30:28,914 --> 00:30:31,954 Speaker 4: and wouldn't be as a creator, want to watch the audience, 668 00:30:32,274 --> 00:30:34,034 Speaker 4: want to make the audience watch. 669 00:30:33,754 --> 00:30:38,154 Speaker 5: That not only feelings for someone else, but her dead husbands. 670 00:30:38,314 --> 00:30:40,514 Speaker 4: In the house that they shared great well. 671 00:30:40,554 --> 00:30:43,394 Speaker 6: On this press run, Jess Brownew has repeatedly said she 672 00:30:43,434 --> 00:30:47,394 Speaker 6: wants to explore different kinds of love and that is 673 00:30:47,594 --> 00:30:50,154 Speaker 6: not just a queer storyline, but also not a first 674 00:30:50,154 --> 00:30:53,274 Speaker 6: love storyline like we've seen before. It's a second chance story. 675 00:30:53,634 --> 00:30:56,154 Speaker 6: And look, I have to question, you don't introduce a 676 00:30:56,234 --> 00:30:59,554 Speaker 6: character like Mikhayla and give her that much screen presence 677 00:30:59,794 --> 00:31:03,354 Speaker 6: to just leave her on the sidelines for two years. Also, 678 00:31:03,354 --> 00:31:05,834 Speaker 6: they're always trying to keep the show vibrant, right, So 679 00:31:06,274 --> 00:31:10,394 Speaker 6: a move to the Gottish Highlands with Kilts and More's 680 00:31:11,434 --> 00:31:15,514 Speaker 6: Loving a Castle. I mean it's ratings gold. Now I've 681 00:31:15,554 --> 00:31:18,314 Speaker 6: heard both your arguments. Yes, and I'm going to tell 682 00:31:18,354 --> 00:31:21,714 Speaker 6: you that I have decided who I think. But also, 683 00:31:21,754 --> 00:31:24,874 Speaker 6: with another piece of evidence, I feel that it will 684 00:31:24,874 --> 00:31:25,554 Speaker 6: be Eloise. 685 00:31:25,674 --> 00:31:28,354 Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, there is a blink and you'll miss it. 686 00:31:28,434 --> 00:31:31,314 Speaker 6: Shot in part two of Eloise at her desk with 687 00:31:31,354 --> 00:31:35,474 Speaker 6: a stack of letters. One envelope has oppressed botanical flower 688 00:31:35,554 --> 00:31:39,194 Speaker 6: on the seal. So in the book, Eloise ends up 689 00:31:39,234 --> 00:31:42,394 Speaker 6: with Sir Philip Crane, who is a botanist. So I'm 690 00:31:42,474 --> 00:31:45,074 Speaker 6: convinced that this is the show's way of saying they 691 00:31:45,074 --> 00:31:48,474 Speaker 6: are already communicating, and so the two Sir Philip's storyline 692 00:31:48,514 --> 00:31:50,714 Speaker 6: that we loved in the books is already in motion. 693 00:31:51,154 --> 00:31:54,434 Speaker 5: Absolutely ten out of ten. Georgie, you're right, I'm right, Grace, 694 00:31:54,514 --> 00:31:54,994 Speaker 5: You're nearly that. 695 00:31:55,794 --> 00:31:58,594 Speaker 6: Okay, what about this other theory about Hyacinth than Gregory, though, 696 00:31:58,754 --> 00:32:00,994 Speaker 6: I do have a theory just before we leave for 697 00:32:01,314 --> 00:32:02,594 Speaker 6: this episode. 698 00:32:02,154 --> 00:32:04,234 Speaker 4: About what they're going to do with Gregory and Hyacinth. 699 00:32:05,354 --> 00:32:07,594 Speaker 4: When you think of them, do you think of them 700 00:32:07,634 --> 00:32:08,234 Speaker 4: as children? 701 00:32:08,394 --> 00:32:08,634 Speaker 7: Yes? 702 00:32:08,754 --> 00:32:11,474 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, well they are, they are correct, So they 703 00:32:11,514 --> 00:32:14,354 Speaker 4: are children in terms of getting them out into society 704 00:32:15,114 --> 00:32:17,834 Speaker 4: that would look so weird. We're only seeing it from 705 00:32:17,954 --> 00:32:21,154 Speaker 4: hyacinth perspective as like a bright eyed child. They're not 706 00:32:21,274 --> 00:32:25,434 Speaker 4: even filming her or writing her storylines that make it 707 00:32:25,474 --> 00:32:28,434 Speaker 4: actually an option. So I feel like for next season 708 00:32:28,794 --> 00:32:32,634 Speaker 4: they're going to write them out to get that, because 709 00:32:32,674 --> 00:32:35,634 Speaker 4: I think they will go away from our vision and 710 00:32:35,794 --> 00:32:38,834 Speaker 4: absence that makes them grow up so they can return 711 00:32:38,954 --> 00:32:41,474 Speaker 4: and we see them differently, because when it's such, it's 712 00:32:41,554 --> 00:32:44,194 Speaker 4: like a gift and also a problem to see people 713 00:32:44,274 --> 00:32:46,474 Speaker 4: age on screen that they're never going to seem like 714 00:32:46,474 --> 00:32:49,754 Speaker 4: a sexual being. So either they're going to be recast 715 00:32:50,234 --> 00:32:52,394 Speaker 4: or they're going to be they can't. Well they have 716 00:32:52,514 --> 00:32:56,474 Speaker 4: done that, are they're going to go away? And I 717 00:32:56,474 --> 00:32:59,154 Speaker 4: think they've written some easter eggs in there. I don't 718 00:32:59,154 --> 00:33:01,394 Speaker 4: know if I can use easter eggs to describe this, 719 00:33:01,514 --> 00:33:03,754 Speaker 4: but like Gregory talking about going back to Eton was 720 00:33:03,794 --> 00:33:06,114 Speaker 4: made specifically clear that I don't think he's going to 721 00:33:06,154 --> 00:33:09,074 Speaker 4: be very present, yes, and that was an unnecessary line, right, 722 00:33:09,314 --> 00:33:11,354 Speaker 4: and you know, we don't do them. And then Hyacinth 723 00:33:11,394 --> 00:33:13,034 Speaker 4: did it something similar of like you're right, I do 724 00:33:13,154 --> 00:33:14,994 Speaker 4: need to go and find myself see the world or 725 00:33:15,194 --> 00:33:19,154 Speaker 4: before I go into this marriage mart So I think 726 00:33:19,154 --> 00:33:21,594 Speaker 4: in terms of them to grow up, to become viable 727 00:33:21,594 --> 00:33:24,274 Speaker 4: sexual options that we can get behind a sex scene 728 00:33:24,594 --> 00:33:27,434 Speaker 4: and enjoy a sex scene, we need to forget their children, 729 00:33:27,634 --> 00:33:29,754 Speaker 4: and to forget it, they will be non existent for 730 00:33:29,794 --> 00:33:32,314 Speaker 4: the next season. Oh, I love this so much. Theory 731 00:33:32,594 --> 00:33:37,234 Speaker 4: my entire creept. You're right, thank thank you well, Thank 732 00:33:37,274 --> 00:33:40,114 Speaker 4: you so much for listening to our bridgiton podcast Live. 733 00:33:40,194 --> 00:33:43,434 Speaker 4: Georgie and I have absolutely loved deep diving into everything 734 00:33:43,874 --> 00:33:46,914 Speaker 4: of these past eight episodes, and I think it's time 735 00:33:46,954 --> 00:33:49,714 Speaker 4: for a rewatch. So go rewatch, find all those little 736 00:33:49,754 --> 00:33:51,314 Speaker 4: easter eggs that we talk about, and then come back 737 00:33:51,354 --> 00:33:53,194 Speaker 4: and listen to the podcast again. But thank you so 738 00:33:53,274 --> 00:33:55,434 Speaker 4: much for joining us today. Watch Party is the podcast 739 00:33:55,474 --> 00:33:58,674 Speaker 4: where we dive into all your favorite TV shows. 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