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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 3: Makeup is my therapy. I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and

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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for

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Speaker 4: your Face. I'm Aaron Dockerty and.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the formula.

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Speaker 4: Every week I sit down with celebs and some of

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Speaker 4: the biggest names in beauty and take a look into

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Speaker 4: their skincarey, teenes and newbies. Who's ever thought I've got

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Speaker 4: sensitive skin. I just can't use actives or any of

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Speaker 4: the core products we see in Sephora and Mecca. I'll

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Speaker 4: just have to use unsexy chemist products forever. What if

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Speaker 4: we told you that's not the case. Today, we're talking

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Speaker 4: to Amy Lou, the CEO and founder of Tower twenty eight,

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Speaker 4: who has done a full three six on her Roseatia

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Speaker 4: and exemaprone skin, and she's here to share her tips

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Speaker 4: on how you can do the same. Back in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 4: after working as a beauty executive for over fifteen years, Amy,

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Speaker 4: who was in her forties, took a leap of faith

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Speaker 4: and decided to quit a job and start her own brand.

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Speaker 4: Her goal to make sure reactive skin could still have

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Speaker 4: fun with beauty. If you've tried or heard anything about

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Speaker 4: Tower twenty eight, you'll know it makes glowy, it girl

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Speaker 4: skin possible and fun for all with dermatologist approved high

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Speaker 4: performance skincare and makeup designed for the most sensitive skin.

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Speaker 4: And while it's only ever been available in the US,

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Speaker 4: it's finally hit Australian and New Zealand shores and is

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Speaker 4: now available in Mecca. Today, Amy is teaching us what

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Speaker 4: does and doesn't work for sensitive skin and how to

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Speaker 4: incorporate actives while still giving your skin time to rest

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Speaker 4: and heal.

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Speaker 1: You are such beautiful skin.

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Speaker 4: But how Amy, thank you so much for joining me

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Speaker 4: today on the show. I am so so excited. I

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Speaker 4: can't believe you're here. I can't believe the brand is here.

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Speaker 3: Welcome.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's honestly such a grief dream come true.

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Speaker 2: I'm such a big fan of Mecca and I'm a

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Speaker 1: It's all a real dream come true.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're so excited to have you.

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Speaker 4: I know, we have a lot of girls in the

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Speaker 4: that how twenty eight is finally here. They're like, thank God,

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Speaker 4: we don't have to send our friends away to carry

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Speaker 2: So I have been a long time beauty executive. I've

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Speaker 2: like our SOS spray, which has hypochlorous acid in.

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Speaker 2: as you said, I actually love the YOU Beauty Resurfacing Compound.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, these are all amazing recommendations. I don't think

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Speaker 1: So the letter you and then beauty resurfacing compound.

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Speaker 4: Have we just found our very own skincare brand for

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Speaker 4: U Beauty podcast.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing. We've got to have a chat with them,

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Speaker 4: have sensitive skin galies.

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Speaker 2: I'll use our SOS cream, and our SOS cream is

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Speaker 2: really just about hydrations like cerobides, hyaluronic acid. It's beautiful cream.

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Speaker 2: And then if I'm feeling really dry, I'll use an oil.

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Speaker 2: And I really like the Mara Beauty. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you guys have Mara Beauty, but Mara is great

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Speaker 2: and I really like their all.

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Speaker 3: Oh if that tunds beautiful. I love a good oil

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 4: Hit And you've made one of the greatest discoveries of

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Speaker 4: all time.

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Speaker 1: Oh miss never again, never Amy.

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Speaker 4: I want to move onto our hits and missus. This

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Speaker 4: is my favorite part of the show. I'm excited to

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Speaker 4: ask you what is a skincare technique or ingredient that

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Speaker 4: you love and what's one that you hate.

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Speaker 2: I would be remiss to not say a hypoplorous acid,

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Speaker 2: because it really has changed my skin in it is

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Speaker 2: such an amazing way. I mean, honestly, I couldn't see

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Speaker 2: it if it wasn't true. But it has really genuinely

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Speaker 2: changed my skin. I don't use any steroids anymore. I

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Speaker 2: don't use any topical or oral, which is huge for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that in and of itself is really a huge part

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Speaker 2: of it. Oh you know what else I love?

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Speaker 1: Actually I don't. If you know who Namvo is, she's

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Speaker 1: an influencer, good care kind of influence.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Nan told me, she was like, girl, you

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Speaker 2: need to use red light like she looks amazing, and

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Speaker 2: so she referred me to one.

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Speaker 1: I bought it. It was not cheap, I.

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Speaker 3: Have to tell you.

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Speaker 1: I really think it makes a difference.

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Speaker 3: Is it like a fool on device or like an

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Speaker 3: at home mask?

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Speaker 1: It's an at home. But it is a saluma.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's the one that you lie under.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you lie under it for thirty minutes. And I

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Speaker 2: will tell you one. I think it has really changed

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Speaker 2: my skin too. It has changed my sleep, which I

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Speaker 2: didn't anticipate. So I used to take melatonin to go

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Speaker 2: to sleep, and now I fall asleep with this red

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Speaker 2: light mask on. And at some point I like wake

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Speaker 2: up and it's on, and you know, it's on a

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Speaker 2: thirty minute timer, and then like I like toss it

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Speaker 2: to the side.

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Speaker 1: It helps put me to sleep.

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Speaker 4: I love a red light treatment. I mean, I've got

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Speaker 4: red light masks. But I did have someone on the

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Speaker 4: show that one said she had a red light sauna,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't think I've got enough

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Speaker 4: money for that.

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Speaker 1: They have these places in La. They have red light

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Speaker 1: exercise studios.

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Speaker 2: There's one called Burn and so there's like red lights

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Speaker 2: all over and then you like exercise.

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Speaker 1: Inside of the red light.

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Speaker 4: They love hyping things up, but red light is super

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Speaker 4: good for your skin.

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Speaker 2: So I wasn't a believer, honestly, and I was like, really, like,

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Speaker 2: it was such an expensive machine, even though I got

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Speaker 2: a discount on it.

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Speaker 1: It was so expensive, and I was like, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to use it though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: If you're consistent within you use it, then you're going

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Speaker 4: to notice the benefits.

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Speaker 1: It has made a difference in terms of missus. I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: I went to this kind of like the medspa I

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Speaker 2: go to for lasers once in a while, and they

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Speaker 2: were trying to convince me to do this like salmon

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Speaker 2: sperm thing, and I.

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Speaker 3: Was like the salmon's ferm injective was this.

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Speaker 1: I was like, we've gone too far. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about this.

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Speaker 3: That has actually just hit Australia.

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Speaker 4: I think it was this year and it has blown

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Speaker 4: up pre so I haven't tried it yet and I

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Speaker 4: don't know that I do want to do that.

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Speaker 3: So it just.

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Speaker 2: Sounded so funny to me that I was like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I can do that.

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Speaker 3: Did we get here?

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Speaker 1: How did we get here? And who was the person.

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Speaker 3: Was the first person who?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Who was like I think I've got an idea.

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Speaker 1: I got it had to test. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't tried it, so I can't really be an

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Speaker 2: easier Yeah, I'm going to stick with a light for

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Speaker 2: right now if I can.

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Speaker 3: Amy Thank you so much. That was amazing. It was

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Speaker 3: so good to have you on, oh so fun. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: and that's all we have time for today.

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Speaker 4: But if you want more beauty news, check out our

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Speaker 4: beauty newsletter. We've chucked a link to it in the

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Speaker 4: show notes. The producer of You Beauty is the lovely

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Speaker 4: Cassie Merrit and we'll see you next Tuesday for another

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Speaker 4: interview talking all things skin.

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Speaker 3: Bye.