1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:14,034 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia Podcast. 2 00:00:18,794 --> 00:00:21,714 Speaker 2: From Mama Mia. Welcome to this bill, your daily pop 3 00:00:21,754 --> 00:00:24,994 Speaker 2: culture Fixed. I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm tena propos and 4 00:00:25,194 --> 00:00:27,954 Speaker 2: coming up today, we've had another week of Married at 5 00:00:27,954 --> 00:00:30,434 Speaker 2: First Sight Australia and we're going to break down all 6 00:00:30,434 --> 00:00:32,994 Speaker 2: the surprises and scandals. I think you and I are 7 00:00:32,994 --> 00:00:35,074 Speaker 2: going to have a conversation we never thought we'd had 8 00:00:35,554 --> 00:00:39,034 Speaker 2: about sex, toys, drumming, and a throw down over a 9 00:00:39,074 --> 00:00:42,833 Speaker 2: tiny furry animal which upset a whole table full of adults. 10 00:00:43,233 --> 00:00:45,754 Speaker 2: We're going to get into that. But first, some movie 11 00:00:45,833 --> 00:00:48,473 Speaker 2: news that I think a lot of people, particularly some 12 00:00:48,593 --> 00:00:51,473 Speaker 2: elder millennials, were very excited about, and that is the 13 00:00:51,513 --> 00:00:55,074 Speaker 2: fact that this week the first trailer for Scary Movie, 14 00:00:55,234 --> 00:00:57,714 Speaker 2: so it's technically the sixth film in the franchise, so 15 00:00:57,794 --> 00:01:00,474 Speaker 2: it's Scary Movie six, but they're just calling it Scary 16 00:01:00,514 --> 00:01:04,874 Speaker 2: Movie has been released and people are very excited because 17 00:01:04,914 --> 00:01:08,154 Speaker 2: we've got the original cast back, so Ma and Shane Waynis, 18 00:01:08,154 --> 00:01:10,314 Speaker 2: the Waynas brothers have come back, the creators of the 19 00:01:10,394 --> 00:01:13,874 Speaker 2: original film, Regina Hall is back and Anna Faris, the 20 00:01:13,914 --> 00:01:17,194 Speaker 2: stars in the original movie are back, and people have 21 00:01:17,274 --> 00:01:18,594 Speaker 2: been very excited about this. 22 00:01:18,754 --> 00:01:20,594 Speaker 1: I can imagine because when was the last one, like 23 00:01:20,594 --> 00:01:21,354 Speaker 1: a decade ago? 24 00:01:21,594 --> 00:01:24,234 Speaker 2: Yeah, a decade ago, and the very first one came 25 00:01:24,274 --> 00:01:27,274 Speaker 2: out in the year two thousand half our listeners might 26 00:01:27,274 --> 00:01:27,954 Speaker 2: not have been born. 27 00:01:27,994 --> 00:01:29,994 Speaker 1: Then that is very concerning for me. 28 00:01:30,394 --> 00:01:30,594 Speaker 2: Yeah. 29 00:01:30,594 --> 00:01:31,994 Speaker 1: I think it's a big deal to have all the 30 00:01:32,034 --> 00:01:34,434 Speaker 1: cast back, and that's when you know like a sequel 31 00:01:34,514 --> 00:01:36,274 Speaker 1: is going to be good. Yeah, when all the casts 32 00:01:36,314 --> 00:01:37,114 Speaker 1: have bought into it. 33 00:01:37,314 --> 00:01:39,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So that's kind of been the excite man. 34 00:01:39,674 --> 00:01:43,114 Speaker 2: Here's a question. Were you a scary movie fan growing up? 35 00:01:43,354 --> 00:01:45,754 Speaker 1: So I will say I am not a scary movie fan. 36 00:01:45,794 --> 00:01:48,034 Speaker 1: I think because in general as a genre, I don't 37 00:01:48,074 --> 00:01:51,714 Speaker 1: like scary movies. So a lot of references obviously the 38 00:01:51,874 --> 00:01:54,394 Speaker 1: iconic ones like I can like pick up on, but 39 00:01:54,474 --> 00:01:56,874 Speaker 1: a lot of like the references will just go over 40 00:01:56,914 --> 00:01:59,554 Speaker 1: my head because I am naturally scared of those movies 41 00:01:59,594 --> 00:02:01,674 Speaker 1: and I avoid them. So you would think that this 42 00:02:01,714 --> 00:02:04,034 Speaker 1: would be for me. Yeah, it's a parody. 43 00:02:04,114 --> 00:02:05,914 Speaker 2: I think this would be for you, because here's the 44 00:02:05,954 --> 00:02:07,794 Speaker 2: fun thing about me is I don't like the Scary 45 00:02:07,834 --> 00:02:09,953 Speaker 2: Movie franchise because I love scary movies. 46 00:02:10,034 --> 00:02:11,314 Speaker 1: Oh I thought you would like it. 47 00:02:11,394 --> 00:02:15,354 Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, no, look I've I've softened to it 48 00:02:15,394 --> 00:02:17,474 Speaker 2: over the years, and I am happy these actresses are 49 00:02:17,514 --> 00:02:20,114 Speaker 2: back because this is Anna Faris's first big role was 50 00:02:20,114 --> 00:02:22,034 Speaker 2: in scary movies. So when I saw the trailers and 51 00:02:22,034 --> 00:02:23,954 Speaker 2: stuff as a kid, and like people would put the 52 00:02:23,954 --> 00:02:26,154 Speaker 2: movies on its sleepovers, and it was that type of 53 00:02:26,314 --> 00:02:29,954 Speaker 2: movie Scream. Yes, okay, that is why as little that 54 00:02:30,114 --> 00:02:32,834 Speaker 2: is why I hate it because, as you know, Scream, 55 00:02:33,074 --> 00:02:35,194 Speaker 2: or maybe you don't know, because it's okay if you 56 00:02:35,194 --> 00:02:36,714 Speaker 2: don't know, but the original Scream is one of my 57 00:02:36,754 --> 00:02:39,874 Speaker 2: favorite movies of all time. And so when Scary Movie 58 00:02:39,914 --> 00:02:42,274 Speaker 2: came out as a parody of Scream, which is how 59 00:02:42,314 --> 00:02:44,554 Speaker 2: it became so huge and it made Anna Faris a star. 60 00:02:45,234 --> 00:02:46,834 Speaker 2: Every time I sat down to watch it, I was like, 61 00:02:46,874 --> 00:02:49,794 Speaker 2: I just wish I was watching Scream. And you what's 62 00:02:49,794 --> 00:02:52,554 Speaker 2: a fun fact is that the Scream was originally called 63 00:02:52,634 --> 00:02:54,874 Speaker 2: Scary Movie. Really that was going to be that because 64 00:02:54,874 --> 00:02:58,434 Speaker 2: it's so meta matter and it's this exploration of scary movies. 65 00:02:58,474 --> 00:03:00,434 Speaker 2: And one of the most iconic lines in the Screen 66 00:03:00,434 --> 00:03:02,594 Speaker 2: franchise is do you like scary movies? 67 00:03:02,674 --> 00:03:02,954 Speaker 1: Yes? 68 00:03:02,994 --> 00:03:05,594 Speaker 2: So it was originally called Scary Movie and they changed 69 00:03:05,634 --> 00:03:09,594 Speaker 2: to Scream as better marketing, and then the Scary Movie 70 00:03:09,634 --> 00:03:12,314 Speaker 2: parody series was born. They're like, we'll use it. It's 71 00:03:12,314 --> 00:03:14,234 Speaker 2: a much better name for the parody. 72 00:03:14,394 --> 00:03:17,594 Speaker 1: Yeah, it works. Look, I'm gonna watch it. This is 73 00:03:17,594 --> 00:03:18,234 Speaker 1: the one that I'm I. 74 00:03:18,194 --> 00:03:20,314 Speaker 2: Actually think I might watch this one too. I've seen 75 00:03:20,354 --> 00:03:21,914 Speaker 2: all the others over the years because I think, like 76 00:03:22,314 --> 00:03:25,034 Speaker 2: if you were like a tween and then a teen 77 00:03:25,154 --> 00:03:27,554 Speaker 2: in the early two thousands, they were just such a 78 00:03:27,554 --> 00:03:29,754 Speaker 2: big part of like you know, people talked about them 79 00:03:29,794 --> 00:03:31,314 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, that was such a big thing. 80 00:03:31,394 --> 00:03:33,834 Speaker 2: So I think I just saw them by default. And 81 00:03:33,874 --> 00:03:36,074 Speaker 2: there's some genuinely funny moments in there. 82 00:03:36,274 --> 00:03:37,874 Speaker 1: I think not all of it will be funny to me, 83 00:03:37,914 --> 00:03:39,594 Speaker 1: Like I think it's not my kind of humor, Like 84 00:03:39,834 --> 00:03:40,354 Speaker 1: I don't watch it. 85 00:03:40,394 --> 00:03:41,914 Speaker 2: I'm like, hah, yeah, same. 86 00:03:42,074 --> 00:03:44,714 Speaker 1: There's like moments that I can appreciate, but I think 87 00:03:44,754 --> 00:03:47,074 Speaker 1: that's why. But I do after seeing the trailer, like 88 00:03:47,114 --> 00:03:48,234 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued. 89 00:03:48,634 --> 00:03:50,474 Speaker 2: And when the new Screen movie was coming out, like 90 00:03:50,514 --> 00:03:52,354 Speaker 2: I'd si to so many people like, oh, like do 91 00:03:52,394 --> 00:03:53,714 Speaker 2: you know the plot and this and that? And they're like, 92 00:03:53,714 --> 00:03:55,954 Speaker 2: oh no, I've never seen Screen, but I've seen Scary movies, 93 00:03:55,994 --> 00:03:58,394 Speaker 2: So I pretty much get it. I'm like, sorry, no, no, 94 00:03:58,434 --> 00:04:01,554 Speaker 2: it's not saying but there's an interesting parallel between Scream 95 00:04:01,554 --> 00:04:04,554 Speaker 2: and Scary Movie apart from the title as well, which 96 00:04:04,634 --> 00:04:06,234 Speaker 2: is the fact that there was this kind of like 97 00:04:06,354 --> 00:04:09,154 Speaker 2: whispers online and like even in the industry that for 98 00:04:09,194 --> 00:04:11,994 Speaker 2: these last screen movies that Nev Campbell was too old 99 00:04:12,554 --> 00:04:15,834 Speaker 2: and passed her prime to be the leader of a franchise, 100 00:04:15,954 --> 00:04:18,674 Speaker 2: to the point where her character Sidney Prescott in the 101 00:04:18,714 --> 00:04:20,993 Speaker 2: new movie references that and like says towards the end 102 00:04:20,993 --> 00:04:23,953 Speaker 2: when she's killed some people like past my prime. And 103 00:04:24,193 --> 00:04:26,913 Speaker 2: Anna Faris has like never gone completely on the record, 104 00:04:26,953 --> 00:04:28,794 Speaker 2: but she's been asked why she was left out of 105 00:04:28,834 --> 00:04:31,073 Speaker 2: the latest Scary Movie, like she was like kind of 106 00:04:31,073 --> 00:04:33,513 Speaker 2: like pushed out of the franchise, and she was like, well, 107 00:04:33,513 --> 00:04:34,794 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I think they just thought 108 00:04:34,794 --> 00:04:36,633 Speaker 2: I was too old and I was past my prime 109 00:04:36,674 --> 00:04:39,393 Speaker 2: and they didn't want me anymore. And now now the 110 00:04:39,393 --> 00:04:41,794 Speaker 2: Waynes's brothers are back, and also Harvey Weinstein's out of 111 00:04:41,794 --> 00:04:44,034 Speaker 2: the picture because he took control of the franchise. Now 112 00:04:44,113 --> 00:04:46,474 Speaker 2: that's done, they brought her back. So I think there's 113 00:04:46,513 --> 00:04:49,953 Speaker 2: something so like fun about nev and Anna Is like 114 00:04:49,993 --> 00:04:52,714 Speaker 2: these iconic actresses from the early two thousands in these 115 00:04:52,993 --> 00:04:56,474 Speaker 2: franchises that are so different but parallel each other, being 116 00:04:56,513 --> 00:04:58,873 Speaker 2: told they were too old and now coming back back 117 00:04:59,313 --> 00:05:02,234 Speaker 2: like later in their careers to be leading ladies again. 118 00:05:02,073 --> 00:05:04,034 Speaker 1: And they're great. I can't wait. I would say it 119 00:05:04,113 --> 00:05:04,473 Speaker 1: just far of. 120 00:05:04,513 --> 00:05:06,474 Speaker 2: Her, I would you, because again, Scary Movie came out. 121 00:05:06,474 --> 00:05:07,914 Speaker 2: It was her first movie. It was so funny. She 122 00:05:07,993 --> 00:05:10,754 Speaker 2: told her parents a very conservative, not conservative Republican and 123 00:05:10,753 --> 00:05:12,713 Speaker 2: I actually don't know, I mean conservative of like be 124 00:05:12,834 --> 00:05:14,993 Speaker 2: really quiet and like don't like talk about sex, and 125 00:05:15,034 --> 00:05:17,674 Speaker 2: like we're like we're a proper family. And when she 126 00:05:17,714 --> 00:05:19,473 Speaker 2: wanted to become an actress, so a bit like mmmm, 127 00:05:19,633 --> 00:05:21,914 Speaker 2: and her mum's like like Meryl Streep and and I 128 00:05:21,953 --> 00:05:25,433 Speaker 2: was like, well, I booked Scary movie and I'm gonna 129 00:05:25,433 --> 00:05:28,034 Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, because that's how I So. I didn't 130 00:05:28,034 --> 00:05:30,433 Speaker 2: really know Anna Faris when this movie first came out. 131 00:05:30,433 --> 00:05:32,474 Speaker 2: This was her first role. But since then I've grown 132 00:05:32,553 --> 00:05:34,633 Speaker 2: to like love her comedy and her humor and like 133 00:05:34,674 --> 00:05:37,594 Speaker 2: her as a performer so much. So maybe I need 134 00:05:37,633 --> 00:05:39,553 Speaker 2: to see this. I mean it does apart from the 135 00:05:39,594 --> 00:05:42,553 Speaker 2: fact that's also brought to Regina Hallback and she's so funny. 136 00:05:42,993 --> 00:05:45,593 Speaker 2: This new scary movie is going to parody. The whole 137 00:05:45,633 --> 00:05:48,074 Speaker 2: idea is like it parodies all the most famous horror 138 00:05:48,154 --> 00:05:50,234 Speaker 2: movies that have come out recently. So it's going to 139 00:05:50,313 --> 00:05:54,953 Speaker 2: parody Smile, Sinners, Long Legs, Terrifier, all of these different movies. 140 00:05:55,113 --> 00:06:00,473 Speaker 1: Substance, Yeah, parts of that. 141 00:06:00,474 --> 00:06:02,993 Speaker 2: That's a fun thing about a scary movie movie. Again, 142 00:06:03,034 --> 00:06:05,193 Speaker 2: not that I'm their target fan base, only because like 143 00:06:05,234 --> 00:06:06,714 Speaker 2: I always like, oh, I wish I was really watching 144 00:06:06,753 --> 00:06:08,993 Speaker 2: the Subs and I wish I was watching Terrifier right now, 145 00:06:09,193 --> 00:06:11,553 Speaker 2: which I was watching Long Legs, Like that's the for me. 146 00:06:11,594 --> 00:06:14,553 Speaker 1: Maybe this is like an entry level, entry level. 147 00:06:14,953 --> 00:06:16,473 Speaker 2: This is for a way for you through all the 148 00:06:16,474 --> 00:06:18,073 Speaker 2: horror movies and not be scared. 149 00:06:18,433 --> 00:06:19,913 Speaker 1: But I could keep up with all the reference. 150 00:06:19,993 --> 00:06:22,594 Speaker 2: Yes, so the trailer's out now, it's kind of fun 151 00:06:22,633 --> 00:06:24,754 Speaker 2: to see the franchise back. And yeah, it's coming out 152 00:06:24,794 --> 00:06:26,633 Speaker 2: in June, so I'm sure a lot of people be 153 00:06:26,794 --> 00:06:28,873 Speaker 2: very excited to see this franchise. But you don't get 154 00:06:28,914 --> 00:06:31,034 Speaker 2: to movie number six without having a big fan base. 155 00:06:32,834 --> 00:06:34,954 Speaker 2: And now, speaking of scary content to want to watch 156 00:06:34,953 --> 00:06:37,434 Speaker 2: on screen, it's time to talk about marri at first sight. 157 00:06:37,834 --> 00:06:40,393 Speaker 1: This week, our couples were faced with some hard truths. 158 00:06:40,433 --> 00:06:43,674 Speaker 1: Our new couples moved into each other's apartments, and then 159 00:06:43,753 --> 00:06:46,513 Speaker 1: of course our OG's had family and friends week. 160 00:06:46,953 --> 00:06:49,313 Speaker 2: Yes, so kicking off his family and friends week, which 161 00:06:49,433 --> 00:06:51,873 Speaker 2: I mean, God bless these people. God best these family 162 00:06:51,914 --> 00:06:55,073 Speaker 2: members who come in and supports. I mean, I like 163 00:06:55,113 --> 00:06:57,033 Speaker 2: to think that I'm a good sister and friend to 164 00:06:57,034 --> 00:06:59,033 Speaker 2: the people in my life that I do think I 165 00:06:59,154 --> 00:07:01,594 Speaker 2: might potentially draw the line, it might be a judgment 166 00:07:01,674 --> 00:07:04,074 Speaker 2: zone about going on married at first sight and kind 167 00:07:04,073 --> 00:07:06,914 Speaker 2: of just taking part in this charade. But here we are. 168 00:07:07,313 --> 00:07:09,874 Speaker 2: Shall we start with Darren Scott because theirs was quite 169 00:07:10,314 --> 00:07:12,634 Speaker 2: what explosive as we've seen from them in the past. 170 00:07:12,754 --> 00:07:15,354 Speaker 2: But of course, much like their wedding day started with 171 00:07:15,393 --> 00:07:17,234 Speaker 2: a fight and then ended in a nice way, this 172 00:07:17,314 --> 00:07:18,874 Speaker 2: also had a bit of a fight at the table. 173 00:07:19,354 --> 00:07:21,554 Speaker 1: Yes, Jeer and Scott. I feel like it just never 174 00:07:21,594 --> 00:07:23,754 Speaker 1: stops with them. And it's interesting because usually with the 175 00:07:23,794 --> 00:07:25,994 Speaker 1: happy couples, you don't see too much from them and 176 00:07:25,994 --> 00:07:29,034 Speaker 1: they're always going on about how happy they are, but 177 00:07:29,114 --> 00:07:30,514 Speaker 1: they will not get off the screens. 178 00:07:31,114 --> 00:07:33,154 Speaker 2: Yeah and kind of yeah, interesting. So they had they 179 00:07:33,154 --> 00:07:34,994 Speaker 2: were like very came together as like a unit at 180 00:07:34,994 --> 00:07:37,194 Speaker 2: their lunch with their family and friends, and there were 181 00:07:37,274 --> 00:07:38,953 Speaker 2: questions where they were going to live, which I guess 182 00:07:39,074 --> 00:07:41,034 Speaker 2: is kind of fair enough. But I was like, guys, 183 00:07:41,074 --> 00:07:43,074 Speaker 2: we all know they're pretending to be married, but they've 184 00:07:43,074 --> 00:07:44,794 Speaker 2: only known each other a few weeks. I think it's 185 00:07:44,834 --> 00:07:49,434 Speaker 2: totally fine. Real marriage guy them to move stays like 186 00:07:49,434 --> 00:07:51,153 Speaker 2: that would be a terrible idea. You're not a dad 187 00:07:51,234 --> 00:07:53,793 Speaker 2: yet exactly. But he did talk about meeting her daughter. 188 00:07:54,114 --> 00:07:56,074 Speaker 2: Did we di I miss this? Did he confirm? Does 189 00:07:56,074 --> 00:07:56,953 Speaker 2: he know that kid's name? 190 00:07:57,314 --> 00:07:58,354 Speaker 1: I don't want his name? 191 00:07:58,434 --> 00:08:00,634 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't either. You know what, that's actually 192 00:08:00,674 --> 00:08:02,833 Speaker 2: a good thing. We shouldn't know that child's name. No, 193 00:08:02,994 --> 00:08:04,634 Speaker 2: that's not for us to know. But it was just 194 00:08:04,634 --> 00:08:07,434 Speaker 2: such a big deal because he hadn't realized name in 195 00:08:07,474 --> 00:08:08,554 Speaker 2: a previous episode. 196 00:08:08,674 --> 00:08:11,114 Speaker 1: I don't think he says it again, but surely you 197 00:08:11,114 --> 00:08:13,674 Speaker 1: know child. I think they've been like facetiming. 198 00:08:13,914 --> 00:08:16,153 Speaker 2: Yeah, well they met in real life. Apparently. That was 199 00:08:16,194 --> 00:08:17,634 Speaker 2: kind of like one of the big takeaways. So they 200 00:08:17,674 --> 00:08:20,314 Speaker 2: had a bit of an explosive time. And then Rachel 201 00:08:20,314 --> 00:08:23,714 Speaker 2: and Stephen are cute ye, worrisome couple. For me at least, 202 00:08:23,914 --> 00:08:25,674 Speaker 2: I'm quite worried about how this has gone on fault. 203 00:08:25,754 --> 00:08:27,834 Speaker 1: She is cute and I think he's not cute, and 204 00:08:27,914 --> 00:08:29,713 Speaker 1: I don't know who's going to tell her, but if 205 00:08:29,754 --> 00:08:32,034 Speaker 1: you have not even kissed beyond a peck. 206 00:08:31,834 --> 00:08:35,194 Speaker 2: On the mouth, yeah, it's It's interesting because their entire 207 00:08:35,274 --> 00:08:38,034 Speaker 2: storyline is them talking about how like they respect each 208 00:08:38,074 --> 00:08:40,754 Speaker 2: other and love each other, and even his family being 209 00:08:40,794 --> 00:08:42,594 Speaker 2: like you have to lean in and she is lovely, 210 00:08:42,634 --> 00:08:44,874 Speaker 2: and of course she comes across as so lovely. I'm 211 00:08:44,874 --> 00:08:46,434 Speaker 2: sure it's huking him. 212 00:08:47,034 --> 00:08:48,994 Speaker 1: She's like stroking his hand in his arm, and he's like, 213 00:08:50,234 --> 00:08:52,634 Speaker 1: I know, I do feel for him because he's clearly 214 00:08:52,634 --> 00:08:55,314 Speaker 1: in just the world's most uncomfortable situation and doesn't know 215 00:08:55,314 --> 00:08:56,954 Speaker 1: how to get out of it, and that being held 216 00:08:56,954 --> 00:09:00,074 Speaker 1: at gunpoint, and that I don't think it's about Rachel 217 00:09:00,114 --> 00:09:02,914 Speaker 1: at all. I actually think that if she hadn't been 218 00:09:02,954 --> 00:09:05,034 Speaker 1: like so lovely to him and so understanding, and she 219 00:09:05,074 --> 00:09:07,874 Speaker 1: didn't come across as like a fun person to be around, 220 00:09:08,194 --> 00:09:09,234 Speaker 1: he would have been out of there. 221 00:09:09,234 --> 00:09:11,154 Speaker 2: He would have just collapsed under the pressure of this. 222 00:09:11,354 --> 00:09:13,594 Speaker 1: The cameras as well. It's definitely a bit of a 223 00:09:13,594 --> 00:09:16,354 Speaker 1: pressure cook kind and a comfortable situation to be in. 224 00:09:16,554 --> 00:09:17,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he. 225 00:09:17,794 --> 00:09:19,514 Speaker 1: Just doesn't look like he's feeling it in the way 226 00:09:19,554 --> 00:09:20,194 Speaker 1: that she does. 227 00:09:20,354 --> 00:09:21,954 Speaker 2: I just don't even know, like when he feel it 228 00:09:21,994 --> 00:09:23,874 Speaker 2: with kind of like anyone or is it just her? 229 00:09:24,074 --> 00:09:26,474 Speaker 2: I just think, you know, what's happened is this man's 230 00:09:26,514 --> 00:09:28,674 Speaker 2: being told he has to be in a relationship, and 231 00:09:28,674 --> 00:09:30,234 Speaker 2: he's been made in some way out in the real 232 00:09:30,274 --> 00:09:33,194 Speaker 2: world to feel embarrassed that he's not in a relationship. 233 00:09:33,194 --> 00:09:35,034 Speaker 2: And he's been made to feel embarrassed that he's not 234 00:09:35,114 --> 00:09:37,634 Speaker 2: out dating and he's not chasing ladies. So he's come 235 00:09:37,674 --> 00:09:39,634 Speaker 2: on this show to try and fix that, and now 236 00:09:39,634 --> 00:09:42,074 Speaker 2: he's trying to force himself to like this perfectly lovely 237 00:09:42,114 --> 00:09:44,714 Speaker 2: woman who I feel for her too because she's she's 238 00:09:44,794 --> 00:09:47,234 Speaker 2: so the late work. And then I thought it was 239 00:09:47,234 --> 00:09:49,354 Speaker 2: interesting at the end of the dinner party, which we'll 240 00:09:49,354 --> 00:09:50,874 Speaker 2: get into the rest of the dinner party later, but 241 00:09:50,914 --> 00:09:52,634 Speaker 2: there was that tiny section at the top where he 242 00:09:52,714 --> 00:09:55,114 Speaker 2: was saying to everyone else, like, it's so hard because 243 00:09:55,154 --> 00:09:56,834 Speaker 2: I have to keep saying like I know, I'm the problem, 244 00:09:56,874 --> 00:09:59,034 Speaker 2: I'm the problem, And then that hits me really hard. 245 00:09:59,034 --> 00:10:00,794 Speaker 2: At the end of the day as well. I just 246 00:10:00,794 --> 00:10:02,754 Speaker 2: think someone needs to pull these kids out of there. 247 00:10:02,874 --> 00:10:04,714 Speaker 1: I know, I think they're done. I think they're near 248 00:10:04,754 --> 00:10:06,474 Speaker 1: the end, just knowing that they have already been in 249 00:10:06,514 --> 00:10:09,914 Speaker 1: the experiment now and it's not really progressing, and I 250 00:10:09,914 --> 00:10:12,074 Speaker 1: don't want to see either of them get hurt. But 251 00:10:12,194 --> 00:10:13,274 Speaker 1: the thing is I thought I saw. 252 00:10:13,314 --> 00:10:15,234 Speaker 2: I don't know paparazzi pictures tell a lot, but I 253 00:10:15,274 --> 00:10:17,714 Speaker 2: have seen pat pictures of them out and about. I 254 00:10:17,714 --> 00:10:19,194 Speaker 2: don't know if they have like old ones of like 255 00:10:19,194 --> 00:10:21,394 Speaker 2: because obviously when they were living together and filming, it's 256 00:10:21,394 --> 00:10:22,994 Speaker 2: not like The Bachelor where they get locked away they 257 00:10:23,034 --> 00:10:25,354 Speaker 2: do go out into the world. Or are they friends 258 00:10:25,394 --> 00:10:27,634 Speaker 2: now or they I just. 259 00:10:27,594 --> 00:10:29,594 Speaker 1: Don't think the romance is like in the building. It's 260 00:10:29,594 --> 00:10:30,994 Speaker 1: not in the room. I don't even know if it 261 00:10:31,034 --> 00:10:31,594 Speaker 1: was in the building. 262 00:10:31,914 --> 00:10:33,594 Speaker 2: I just think, leave that man alone if he doesn't 263 00:10:33,594 --> 00:10:35,314 Speaker 2: want a girlfriend, and let that woman go and meet 264 00:10:35,354 --> 00:10:37,114 Speaker 2: someone who will like appreciate her, I. 265 00:10:37,194 --> 00:10:39,114 Speaker 1: Know, And I kind of wish that Stephen would put 266 00:10:39,154 --> 00:10:41,234 Speaker 1: her out of her misery if that is the case. Like, 267 00:10:41,314 --> 00:10:43,674 Speaker 1: you can't force something, and I think at this point 268 00:10:43,994 --> 00:10:46,354 Speaker 1: he is trying to be really lovely and caring. But 269 00:10:46,434 --> 00:10:47,674 Speaker 1: at what point do you just like. 270 00:10:47,754 --> 00:10:49,314 Speaker 2: Call it quick, just call it quits, and me like, 271 00:10:49,354 --> 00:10:51,794 Speaker 2: let the TV show go. The other couple that we 272 00:10:51,834 --> 00:10:54,154 Speaker 2: saw quite a bit of this week, and look, it 273 00:10:54,194 --> 00:10:56,514 Speaker 2: wasn't something I wanted to watch, but you know, it 274 00:10:56,594 --> 00:10:58,914 Speaker 2: was part of the show, which is Stephanie and Tyson 275 00:10:59,234 --> 00:11:03,114 Speaker 2: moving into their little those apartments. I know they're residential apartments, 276 00:11:03,154 --> 00:11:04,754 Speaker 2: and like they're quite nice. They just meant to be 277 00:11:04,834 --> 00:11:06,914 Speaker 2: like a kind of part of the experiment, but just 278 00:11:06,914 --> 00:11:09,274 Speaker 2: every time they walk into them, they just feel so 279 00:11:09,634 --> 00:11:13,834 Speaker 2: claustrophob clinical. Clinical, yes, clinical and claustrophobic. 280 00:11:13,954 --> 00:11:15,234 Speaker 1: It does feel experiment. 281 00:11:15,554 --> 00:11:18,354 Speaker 2: It does give experiment exactly. And I just think like 282 00:11:18,594 --> 00:11:21,554 Speaker 2: after going through like the intensity of marrying a stranger, 283 00:11:21,994 --> 00:11:23,874 Speaker 2: then you go away to a hotel and resort where 284 00:11:23,874 --> 00:11:25,754 Speaker 2: you were in a smaller room, but like there's places 285 00:11:25,754 --> 00:11:27,914 Speaker 2: to go and there's activities, and you go downstairs for dinner, 286 00:11:27,914 --> 00:11:28,994 Speaker 2: and you go for a swim, and you go for 287 00:11:29,034 --> 00:11:31,274 Speaker 2: a walk, and you have all these things to keep 288 00:11:31,274 --> 00:11:33,634 Speaker 2: you occupied. And I think one of the reasons why 289 00:11:33,794 --> 00:11:35,914 Speaker 2: so many of these couples get back to these residential 290 00:11:35,954 --> 00:11:38,114 Speaker 2: suites and then they seem to have a bit of 291 00:11:38,114 --> 00:11:40,514 Speaker 2: a blob or something happens and someone moves out straight away. 292 00:11:40,514 --> 00:11:41,674 Speaker 2: I think it's because they all of a sudden they 293 00:11:41,714 --> 00:11:42,674 Speaker 2: get locked in that little. 294 00:11:42,634 --> 00:11:45,953 Speaker 1: The reality crazy, Yeah, that room with this person. 295 00:11:45,754 --> 00:11:47,674 Speaker 2: And they had to come down from the wedding and 296 00:11:47,674 --> 00:11:49,514 Speaker 2: the honeymoon and the travel and all of a sudden, 297 00:11:49,554 --> 00:11:50,394 Speaker 2: it just hits you. 298 00:11:50,314 --> 00:11:51,833 Speaker 1: Because what are we going to do with each other? 299 00:11:52,274 --> 00:11:54,274 Speaker 2: Because some people do get back there and everyone's like, oh, 300 00:11:54,314 --> 00:11:56,114 Speaker 2: that woman just turned crazy, and I was like, yeah, 301 00:11:56,154 --> 00:11:58,194 Speaker 2: she's just having a bit of a come down. Let 302 00:11:58,194 --> 00:11:59,714 Speaker 2: her go be in her own room for a second. 303 00:11:59,874 --> 00:12:00,554 Speaker 1: Leave me alone. 304 00:12:00,594 --> 00:12:02,834 Speaker 2: That's my biggest mayor of getting in a relationship is 305 00:12:02,834 --> 00:12:03,874 Speaker 2: not having my own space. 306 00:12:03,954 --> 00:12:05,474 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what do you do? I've never lived with 307 00:12:05,514 --> 00:12:08,914 Speaker 1: someone else before. Do you like hang out all the time. 308 00:12:09,234 --> 00:12:11,074 Speaker 2: All the time. I have so many questions because a 309 00:12:11,114 --> 00:12:13,434 Speaker 2: couple lived in my apartment before I moved into it, 310 00:12:13,474 --> 00:12:15,594 Speaker 2: and often I'm seeing my living room, I'm like, there's 311 00:12:15,634 --> 00:12:16,714 Speaker 2: not someone else. 312 00:12:16,514 --> 00:12:17,954 Speaker 1: Like what if I want to eat dinner in my bed? 313 00:12:18,154 --> 00:12:20,434 Speaker 2: Yeah? What if I want to do that? But see 314 00:12:20,434 --> 00:12:21,994 Speaker 2: this is this is why that's the judgment. I'm like, 315 00:12:22,034 --> 00:12:23,674 Speaker 2: what if I want to live together. Do I have 316 00:12:23,714 --> 00:12:25,794 Speaker 2: to go No, we can't live together, which is fair enough, 317 00:12:25,874 --> 00:12:27,114 Speaker 2: But I'm like, do I send him out to the 318 00:12:27,154 --> 00:12:29,514 Speaker 2: balcony if I want the living room to myself? Or 319 00:12:29,514 --> 00:12:31,394 Speaker 2: do I send him to the bedroom or I don't 320 00:12:31,394 --> 00:12:33,234 Speaker 2: know if you have to send another partner. This is 321 00:12:33,274 --> 00:12:34,754 Speaker 2: why I shouldn't live with someone. 322 00:12:34,714 --> 00:12:35,834 Speaker 1: And you shouldn't be on MASS. 323 00:12:36,114 --> 00:12:38,354 Speaker 2: There's so many reasons for that. This is why my 324 00:12:38,434 --> 00:12:39,954 Speaker 2: dream is that if I did meet someone, he would 325 00:12:39,994 --> 00:12:42,114 Speaker 2: live in my building. Oh that would be and that 326 00:12:42,154 --> 00:12:44,034 Speaker 2: way we can hang out, but we have our own apartment. 327 00:12:44,154 --> 00:12:47,034 Speaker 1: I love that you can get a little bit. 328 00:12:47,994 --> 00:12:50,274 Speaker 2: It's like how Tim Burton and Helena Bon and Carter 329 00:12:50,394 --> 00:12:54,194 Speaker 2: bought houses this is my dream, houses next door to 330 00:12:54,234 --> 00:12:57,194 Speaker 2: each other in London and then had a private entryway connected. 331 00:12:57,274 --> 00:12:59,594 Speaker 2: That feels she lived in her house, he lived in 332 00:12:59,594 --> 00:13:02,314 Speaker 2: his house, but they could go through the connector that 333 00:13:02,474 --> 00:13:04,554 Speaker 2: I mean maybe Massive If Mass did that, that sounds like. 334 00:13:04,514 --> 00:13:05,034 Speaker 1: A good show. 335 00:13:05,234 --> 00:13:08,674 Speaker 2: Yes exactly, and that that's the perfect way every married 336 00:13:08,714 --> 00:13:11,714 Speaker 2: couple should live. So anyway, we saw Stephanie and Tyson 337 00:13:11,794 --> 00:13:15,674 Speaker 2: come back to their little experiment clinical room and things 338 00:13:15,674 --> 00:13:18,434 Speaker 2: were very strange between them, and then you know, my 339 00:13:18,514 --> 00:13:20,634 Speaker 2: things are strangers because he was just being the most 340 00:13:20,714 --> 00:13:24,154 Speaker 2: vile human being when we first met him. But then 341 00:13:24,354 --> 00:13:27,074 Speaker 2: it's like this switch flip and he got very robotic 342 00:13:27,154 --> 00:13:29,754 Speaker 2: and it's like he was reading lines. He's like, hello, Stephanie, 343 00:13:29,954 --> 00:13:32,674 Speaker 2: you look very nice in that dress today. And I 344 00:13:32,714 --> 00:13:36,154 Speaker 2: was like, now you're acting like before you're a misogynist. 345 00:13:36,554 --> 00:13:39,394 Speaker 2: Now you're acting like a serial killer cyborg. That's not better. 346 00:13:39,474 --> 00:13:42,194 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, he can't find the middle ground. And 347 00:13:42,474 --> 00:13:44,914 Speaker 1: I was worried. You know. I think usually in Maths, 348 00:13:44,954 --> 00:13:46,674 Speaker 1: when they start off and they have a really bad 349 00:13:46,754 --> 00:13:49,234 Speaker 1: like character, they kind of turn it around. And I 350 00:13:49,274 --> 00:13:50,994 Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to see it turn around 351 00:13:51,034 --> 00:13:52,754 Speaker 1: for them. Not really, I don't really want to see 352 00:13:52,754 --> 00:13:53,314 Speaker 1: a happy ending. 353 00:13:53,434 --> 00:13:55,554 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think that's all we've seen a 354 00:13:55,594 --> 00:13:58,354 Speaker 2: few times this season in particular, is that people come in, 355 00:13:58,714 --> 00:14:00,514 Speaker 2: they talk. They probably talk the same way they talked 356 00:14:00,514 --> 00:14:02,914 Speaker 2: in their audition tape and through like their meetings with 357 00:14:02,954 --> 00:14:04,474 Speaker 2: producing and stuff to get on the show, and they 358 00:14:04,474 --> 00:14:06,994 Speaker 2: come in and they be themselves but in a high 359 00:14:07,714 --> 00:14:09,834 Speaker 2: and when they get that first round of feedback from 360 00:14:09,834 --> 00:14:12,514 Speaker 2: people at the dinner party and then at the commitment ceremony, 361 00:14:12,634 --> 00:14:13,794 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, they're just like, Oh, I 362 00:14:13,794 --> 00:14:15,554 Speaker 2: didn't think I was the villain. I thought I was 363 00:14:15,594 --> 00:14:17,834 Speaker 2: the heart throb or the victim or the quirky one. 364 00:14:18,274 --> 00:14:20,594 Speaker 2: And then they backpedal and trying to change their story. 365 00:14:20,634 --> 00:14:23,154 Speaker 2: But yeah, watching him trying to blame a phosaurus for 366 00:14:23,234 --> 00:14:24,514 Speaker 2: his problems. 367 00:14:24,074 --> 00:14:26,714 Speaker 1: I can't That man needs some help first. He doesn't 368 00:14:26,714 --> 00:14:29,234 Speaker 1: know what submissive means. We also ask what the difference 369 00:14:29,274 --> 00:14:31,914 Speaker 1: between coffee and tea? 370 00:14:32,154 --> 00:14:34,954 Speaker 2: Well, I did. I. I did feel him in that 371 00:14:34,994 --> 00:14:36,474 Speaker 2: moment because I was like, you know what, As I 372 00:14:36,474 --> 00:14:39,754 Speaker 2: said when we first started doing these podcasts, the biggest 373 00:14:39,754 --> 00:14:42,074 Speaker 2: floor of this man is yes, they're terrible, but their 374 00:14:42,074 --> 00:14:45,234 Speaker 2: biggest floor is they don't have personalities. That man could 375 00:14:45,274 --> 00:14:47,954 Speaker 2: not think of one interesting thing to say. If he's 376 00:14:48,034 --> 00:14:51,914 Speaker 2: not talking about being misogynist, he has nothing his brand. Yeah, 377 00:14:52,594 --> 00:14:55,034 Speaker 2: and we've said before none of these men are true villains, 378 00:14:55,074 --> 00:14:57,874 Speaker 2: because a true reality TV villain they're awful people, but 379 00:14:57,914 --> 00:15:00,554 Speaker 2: they have some pizzazz, they have some storytell to it, 380 00:15:00,754 --> 00:15:03,914 Speaker 2: they have something to say that's the awful but interesting. 381 00:15:04,394 --> 00:15:06,914 Speaker 2: Whereas these men you take away their misogyny and all 382 00:15:06,954 --> 00:15:09,234 Speaker 2: his Scott is what is the difference between coffee and milk. 383 00:15:09,674 --> 00:15:11,354 Speaker 1: It's like disappointment in a new way. 384 00:15:11,514 --> 00:15:14,034 Speaker 2: Yeah, give me a reason to love hate you. At 385 00:15:14,114 --> 00:15:15,994 Speaker 2: least it's not just finds you boring, which is the 386 00:15:15,994 --> 00:15:16,834 Speaker 2: worst thing you can know. 387 00:15:17,074 --> 00:15:18,754 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's just going to keep coming 388 00:15:18,874 --> 00:15:21,994 Speaker 1: up over the week. How can I continue to hate 389 00:15:22,074 --> 00:15:22,794 Speaker 1: him for the same. 390 00:15:22,834 --> 00:15:25,594 Speaker 2: Yeah, well exactly like and I don't think his storyline's 391 00:15:25,594 --> 00:15:26,954 Speaker 2: going to change at all, But yeah, I did think 392 00:15:26,994 --> 00:15:30,594 Speaker 2: it's interesting that he's still arguing about what submissive means. 393 00:15:30,594 --> 00:15:32,834 Speaker 2: And I'm like, so, if I was using one word 394 00:15:32,954 --> 00:15:36,354 Speaker 2: multiple times a day and I made it my entire personality, 395 00:15:36,834 --> 00:15:38,754 Speaker 2: I would at least, even if I'm not going like 396 00:15:38,794 --> 00:15:41,154 Speaker 2: Webs's dictionary, I would at least dictionary dot com that 397 00:15:41,234 --> 00:15:42,994 Speaker 2: bad boy to find out what it means. 398 00:15:43,034 --> 00:15:45,034 Speaker 1: I find it incredibly hard to believe he doesn't know 399 00:15:45,074 --> 00:15:45,954 Speaker 1: what the word means. 400 00:15:46,034 --> 00:15:46,594 Speaker 2: Oh I don't. 401 00:15:47,354 --> 00:15:49,074 Speaker 1: I don't think he didn't know how to backtrack out 402 00:15:49,114 --> 00:15:50,914 Speaker 1: of it, Yeah, and kind of like he didn't have 403 00:15:50,994 --> 00:15:53,634 Speaker 1: enough knowledge to actually back up why he wanted that 404 00:15:53,914 --> 00:15:56,034 Speaker 1: yeah to well, I don't know. I thought it meant 405 00:15:56,074 --> 00:15:57,274 Speaker 1: like emotional. 406 00:15:56,954 --> 00:15:58,994 Speaker 2: And then we were just getting this weird like Stepford 407 00:15:59,074 --> 00:16:01,914 Speaker 2: husband routine of like him being a robot, of like 408 00:16:02,034 --> 00:16:04,154 Speaker 2: making the tea. Also, if he's never made tea before, 409 00:16:04,194 --> 00:16:05,594 Speaker 2: I do wander. I thought it was quite nice of 410 00:16:05,634 --> 00:16:08,154 Speaker 2: her just to like choke it back down. Doesn't know 411 00:16:08,194 --> 00:16:11,194 Speaker 2: what tea is. Well, at least if he comes out 412 00:16:11,194 --> 00:16:14,154 Speaker 2: of the experiment knowing that he's learnt something, that's something. 413 00:16:14,234 --> 00:16:16,194 Speaker 2: Don't let that man near another woman just said him 414 00:16:16,314 --> 00:16:19,034 Speaker 2: stay with his tea. Okay. The other couple that we 415 00:16:19,114 --> 00:16:22,394 Speaker 2: must talk about is a Juliet and Joel, because even 416 00:16:22,474 --> 00:16:24,714 Speaker 2: though he came across very strange, this is one of 417 00:16:24,714 --> 00:16:26,914 Speaker 2: our new couples. Even though he came across a bit 418 00:16:26,994 --> 00:16:30,114 Speaker 2: strange and want to be quirky on their wedding, she 419 00:16:30,274 --> 00:16:32,754 Speaker 2: seemed to quite like him at the ceremony. In the 420 00:16:32,834 --> 00:16:34,754 Speaker 2: wedding day, honeymoon. 421 00:16:34,434 --> 00:16:36,434 Speaker 1: They were like all over each other. You know. She 422 00:16:36,474 --> 00:16:38,754 Speaker 1: did come in saying she wanted a bit of a weirdo. 423 00:16:39,314 --> 00:16:42,234 Speaker 2: Got on Royality TV what you'll get. 424 00:16:42,314 --> 00:16:44,314 Speaker 1: You shouldn't tell the producers that you are a weirdo. 425 00:16:44,594 --> 00:16:45,954 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden again they got back 426 00:16:45,954 --> 00:16:48,434 Speaker 2: to the apartment. She panicked, as we said, fair enough. 427 00:16:48,874 --> 00:16:50,874 Speaker 2: But then and this is why sometimes it's fun when 428 00:16:50,874 --> 00:16:54,354 Speaker 2: they have social media. And then a video surface, correct. 429 00:16:54,154 --> 00:16:57,514 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, a video surface of Joel playing the drums, 430 00:16:57,834 --> 00:17:00,674 Speaker 1: which sounds so lovely. He has a hobby. We have 431 00:17:00,834 --> 00:17:04,834 Speaker 1: a hobby. Yeah, he is playing the drums with dildo's 432 00:17:05,154 --> 00:17:07,834 Speaker 1: in his hands, which she's not something that your vows 433 00:17:07,834 --> 00:17:10,634 Speaker 1: can really prepare you for. No, And look. 434 00:17:10,434 --> 00:17:13,554 Speaker 2: I haven't watched the video, but I do understand, have you. Yeah, 435 00:17:13,594 --> 00:17:15,394 Speaker 2: I was trying to say, I understand it's still out 436 00:17:15,394 --> 00:17:18,834 Speaker 2: there and live. Essentially, I understand the brutally honest review 437 00:17:18,874 --> 00:17:22,594 Speaker 2: of his It is a penis drum video. 438 00:17:22,794 --> 00:17:26,674 Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd be concerned. Wait what was it? 439 00:17:27,354 --> 00:17:31,874 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I was paraphrasing. I. I haven't watched it. 440 00:17:31,914 --> 00:17:34,074 Speaker 2: I don't know what the storyline video is. I don't 441 00:17:34,074 --> 00:17:36,194 Speaker 2: know what. Yeah, exactly, I want you to give me 442 00:17:36,234 --> 00:17:37,514 Speaker 2: a debris. 443 00:17:37,594 --> 00:17:39,274 Speaker 1: What I was trying to work out was whether there 444 00:17:39,314 --> 00:17:41,914 Speaker 1: was a drumming track in the background or it was 445 00:17:42,034 --> 00:17:45,354 Speaker 1: legitimately him playing drums. By the way he's actioning. I 446 00:17:45,354 --> 00:17:47,434 Speaker 1: don't know whether I acted out or you just use 447 00:17:47,514 --> 00:17:49,394 Speaker 1: your imagination. And I feel like I would. 448 00:17:49,154 --> 00:17:50,914 Speaker 2: Love you to act it out. And this is when everyone, 449 00:17:50,914 --> 00:17:52,234 Speaker 2: please go to our YouTube channel. 450 00:17:53,754 --> 00:17:56,674 Speaker 1: I thought that his movements did look reminiscent of someone 451 00:17:56,674 --> 00:17:58,794 Speaker 1: really playing the drums, so that is. 452 00:17:58,874 --> 00:17:59,874 Speaker 2: Nice, he committed. 453 00:18:00,074 --> 00:18:02,114 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a real drum set, Like it's a full 454 00:18:02,314 --> 00:18:05,274 Speaker 1: drum kit and set. I feel like there's also multiple 455 00:18:05,434 --> 00:18:08,394 Speaker 1: like kind of angles going on. And he has got 456 00:18:08,394 --> 00:18:11,074 Speaker 1: a lot of facial expressions, which is something that Juliette 457 00:18:11,114 --> 00:18:14,033 Speaker 1: did not enjoy quite they're actually quite out. 458 00:18:13,874 --> 00:18:17,714 Speaker 2: Of his facial expressions. I'm sorry, we're gonna have to 459 00:18:17,714 --> 00:18:17,914 Speaker 2: do it. 460 00:18:17,954 --> 00:18:20,754 Speaker 1: This is this is audio listeners. You have to. 461 00:18:21,074 --> 00:18:23,954 Speaker 2: I'll describe Tina's face. There's a lot of mouth gaping, 462 00:18:24,034 --> 00:18:25,914 Speaker 2: eye closing. You did look like Joe then that was 463 00:18:25,914 --> 00:18:29,154 Speaker 2: beautiful done. Yes, you had his spirit in. I mean, 464 00:18:29,154 --> 00:18:31,954 Speaker 2: I don't want to defend the man, but I didn't. 465 00:18:31,714 --> 00:18:34,634 Speaker 1: Have some fun. We're just silly fun and is a 466 00:18:34,634 --> 00:18:36,034 Speaker 1: grown man. So it's strange. 467 00:18:36,274 --> 00:18:39,114 Speaker 2: So one just one fot question because you did the 468 00:18:39,234 --> 00:18:41,354 Speaker 2: like work and watch the video. Is he alone or 469 00:18:41,434 --> 00:18:44,114 Speaker 2: is he like a Oh so it's like a self 470 00:18:44,794 --> 00:18:47,073 Speaker 2: Oh no, that's so much worse. In my head, I 471 00:18:47,114 --> 00:18:49,314 Speaker 2: was giving him like a little reprieve of the backstory. 472 00:18:49,354 --> 00:18:51,674 Speaker 2: I was like with his friends and like they're hanging 473 00:18:51,674 --> 00:18:53,354 Speaker 2: out sometimes you're just stupid things when you're with your 474 00:18:53,394 --> 00:18:55,513 Speaker 2: friends just for them to laugh. You don't mean for 475 00:18:55,554 --> 00:18:56,914 Speaker 2: it to go on side joke. 476 00:18:57,114 --> 00:19:00,394 Speaker 1: Yeah, So sometimes I think I have some strange things 477 00:19:00,394 --> 00:19:02,273 Speaker 1: that I was shot when I was like fourteen, But 478 00:19:02,274 --> 00:19:05,154 Speaker 1: then I remember he's not fourteen in the video, so 479 00:19:05,194 --> 00:19:06,194 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. 480 00:19:06,354 --> 00:19:08,914 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. Here's the thing about this man. Not 481 00:19:08,954 --> 00:19:11,434 Speaker 2: to defend him, but when I heard like Resurfer's video, 482 00:19:11,434 --> 00:19:13,033 Speaker 2: I did think it was going to be a lot worse. 483 00:19:13,474 --> 00:19:15,313 Speaker 2: I just think that his biggest crime is that he 484 00:19:15,394 --> 00:19:19,394 Speaker 2: can't really judge humor, and he's trying so hard to 485 00:19:19,474 --> 00:19:21,793 Speaker 2: be quirky and to be an odd ball, and he 486 00:19:21,914 --> 00:19:24,313 Speaker 2: is trying to be like a breakout star on the 487 00:19:24,314 --> 00:19:26,834 Speaker 2: show in that way, and he's just so misjudged the 488 00:19:26,914 --> 00:19:29,274 Speaker 2: room in such a big way that he's not even 489 00:19:29,274 --> 00:19:31,114 Speaker 2: in the building. He's like three doors down from where 490 00:19:31,114 --> 00:19:31,793 Speaker 2: the room should be. 491 00:19:32,034 --> 00:19:34,074 Speaker 1: When he first came on, I do think he says 492 00:19:34,114 --> 00:19:37,834 Speaker 1: something about being misjudged, and I don't know. I actually 493 00:19:37,954 --> 00:19:40,754 Speaker 1: think that he is just weird and like you could 494 00:19:40,754 --> 00:19:43,314 Speaker 1: be a class clown but have a different humor from 495 00:19:43,314 --> 00:19:46,114 Speaker 1: everyone else, or you can be so desperate to be funny, 496 00:19:46,114 --> 00:19:48,434 Speaker 1: but it never lands with anyone. But I'm sure there 497 00:19:48,514 --> 00:19:52,114 Speaker 1: is a name to find this man funny community of 498 00:19:52,194 --> 00:19:54,194 Speaker 1: people that would really like this video. 499 00:19:56,114 --> 00:19:59,234 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't out there, absolutely not, nor do 500 00:19:59,274 --> 00:20:00,434 Speaker 2: I want to be in a room with him. But 501 00:20:00,474 --> 00:20:02,674 Speaker 2: I just don't think it's the worst thing ever. Just 502 00:20:02,674 --> 00:20:05,394 Speaker 2: he tried to be funny. It didn't land. But I 503 00:20:05,474 --> 00:20:08,674 Speaker 2: also understand. But I also understand why Juliette has the 504 00:20:08,714 --> 00:20:09,674 Speaker 2: ick because. 505 00:20:09,354 --> 00:20:10,634 Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do. What would you 506 00:20:10,634 --> 00:20:11,954 Speaker 1: do that if you went on a date with someone 507 00:20:12,034 --> 00:20:14,674 Speaker 1: and then a couple of dates? Yeah, this resurface. 508 00:20:17,554 --> 00:20:18,994 Speaker 2: No, I'm thinking because you know what I mean, I 509 00:20:18,994 --> 00:20:21,154 Speaker 2: don't think it's I don't think it's funny or interesting. 510 00:20:21,514 --> 00:20:23,634 Speaker 2: But if I was really into the person and I 511 00:20:23,674 --> 00:20:26,554 Speaker 2: found them very funny and interesting, true, I would probably 512 00:20:26,634 --> 00:20:29,514 Speaker 2: just shrugg it off. I've overlooked worse, Honestly, I overlook 513 00:20:29,554 --> 00:20:31,874 Speaker 2: if you like the person, you overlook so much, Like. 514 00:20:31,914 --> 00:20:34,354 Speaker 1: That's so funny. Yeah, I'd be like, oh that's I mean, 515 00:20:34,474 --> 00:20:35,354 Speaker 1: she'd be able to do that. 516 00:20:35,554 --> 00:20:37,714 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be like, it's not your best but like 517 00:20:37,954 --> 00:20:40,034 Speaker 2: you've said other funny things, and like a guy being 518 00:20:40,074 --> 00:20:43,194 Speaker 2: funny is so important. I think Juliette like she was 519 00:20:43,234 --> 00:20:45,793 Speaker 2: already spiraling. She obviously didn't want to be there, she 520 00:20:45,834 --> 00:20:46,674 Speaker 2: already had the thing. 521 00:20:46,834 --> 00:20:49,074 Speaker 1: She's very embarrassed. I think at the wedding was very 522 00:20:49,074 --> 00:20:51,353 Speaker 1: clear that she was embarrassed, and she was looking at 523 00:20:51,354 --> 00:20:54,994 Speaker 1: the reactions of her friends in response to his speech. Yeah, 524 00:20:55,034 --> 00:20:57,754 Speaker 1: so I do feel like her friends sending that video 525 00:20:58,354 --> 00:21:00,514 Speaker 1: like there's a little bit of judgment, and I feel 526 00:21:00,554 --> 00:21:02,874 Speaker 1: like she's just embarrassed because when they had the time 527 00:21:02,914 --> 00:21:05,674 Speaker 1: away on their honeymoon and they were kind of shielded 528 00:21:05,674 --> 00:21:07,474 Speaker 1: from the world and in their own little bit bullet 529 00:21:07,554 --> 00:21:09,154 Speaker 1: seemed like it was fine. And now they're back in 530 00:21:09,234 --> 00:21:12,354 Speaker 1: the experiment, it's a bit much because even when they. 531 00:21:12,234 --> 00:21:14,154 Speaker 2: Had that moment after their wedding, was just the two 532 00:21:14,194 --> 00:21:17,154 Speaker 2: of them back in the hotel room, prior to him 533 00:21:17,194 --> 00:21:19,554 Speaker 2: walking his teddy bear up the stairs, which was bad, 534 00:21:19,994 --> 00:21:21,313 Speaker 2: but prior to time, and they were just sitting on 535 00:21:21,314 --> 00:21:22,954 Speaker 2: the couch together chatting, and she was like, I think 536 00:21:22,954 --> 00:21:24,954 Speaker 2: we show have separate rooms, and he's like, yeah, absolutely, 537 00:21:25,034 --> 00:21:27,194 Speaker 2: Like let's be comfortable, let's just take a moment to chill, 538 00:21:27,234 --> 00:21:29,754 Speaker 2: and they were just very calm and nice and stuff, 539 00:21:29,794 --> 00:21:32,434 Speaker 2: and I do. I Actually, as I've said before, I 540 00:21:32,434 --> 00:21:35,194 Speaker 2: feel like these text messages and group chats that all 541 00:21:35,234 --> 00:21:38,474 Speaker 2: the contestants of Maths are having offscreen with each other 542 00:21:38,554 --> 00:21:40,354 Speaker 2: and with people in the outside world, which is so 543 00:21:40,434 --> 00:21:43,674 Speaker 2: different to how other reality shows operate. Of like, you're 544 00:21:43,794 --> 00:21:45,994 Speaker 2: in the experiment and that's it. The fact that they 545 00:21:46,034 --> 00:21:48,033 Speaker 2: go out to the world, talk to people, talk to 546 00:21:48,074 --> 00:21:50,434 Speaker 2: each other, to me, talk to each other off camera. 547 00:21:50,914 --> 00:21:52,474 Speaker 2: I'm always like, I feel like I'm really ever getting 548 00:21:52,474 --> 00:21:53,354 Speaker 2: half the story. 549 00:21:53,514 --> 00:21:55,754 Speaker 1: I think we're missing a lot in between their reactions. 550 00:21:55,834 --> 00:21:58,674 Speaker 1: So similar to Melon Luke, I just felt like I 551 00:21:58,794 --> 00:22:01,754 Speaker 1: was missing part of the puzzle because obviously we only 552 00:22:01,794 --> 00:22:04,674 Speaker 1: see those moments during the week where they're together, but 553 00:22:04,714 --> 00:22:06,954 Speaker 1: we don't see how they interact with others. We miss 554 00:22:06,954 --> 00:22:09,394 Speaker 1: out on a lot of the conversations. And also they 555 00:22:09,394 --> 00:22:12,793 Speaker 1: still have contact with people back home. Yeah, there's just 556 00:22:12,874 --> 00:22:14,793 Speaker 1: so many layers to it that we're not seeing. And 557 00:22:14,794 --> 00:22:18,074 Speaker 1: I feel like Juliet's reaction to Joel is just not proportionate. 558 00:22:18,354 --> 00:22:22,954 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And her reaction brings us to the dinner party, 559 00:22:24,874 --> 00:22:27,874 Speaker 3: which leads us into the dinner party, and I mean 560 00:22:27,914 --> 00:22:30,034 Speaker 3: it's not the most explosive one we've had. 561 00:22:29,874 --> 00:22:31,714 Speaker 2: But it was still there was quite a lot of 562 00:22:31,994 --> 00:22:34,594 Speaker 2: yelling and what not going on. One thing I thought 563 00:22:34,634 --> 00:22:38,114 Speaker 2: was interesting was Alyssa and David, who, like obviously Alyssa 564 00:22:38,114 --> 00:22:39,714 Speaker 2: was the target of a lot of hate that thought 565 00:22:39,834 --> 00:22:43,114 Speaker 2: you're the last dinner parties. David hasn't really gotten into it, 566 00:22:43,154 --> 00:22:44,714 Speaker 2: but he came in this time a little bit like 567 00:22:45,074 --> 00:22:47,714 Speaker 2: to defend his fake wife, which I weirdly thought was nice. 568 00:22:48,074 --> 00:22:48,354 Speaker 1: Yeah. 569 00:22:48,514 --> 00:22:51,394 Speaker 2: Currently, David's the only one I would be not scared 570 00:22:51,434 --> 00:22:52,154 Speaker 2: to be in a room with. 571 00:22:52,274 --> 00:22:55,594 Speaker 1: He seemed quite chill. He does seemed like a nice couple. 572 00:22:55,634 --> 00:22:57,234 Speaker 1: Like we haven't seen like too much of them because 573 00:22:57,234 --> 00:22:58,114 Speaker 1: I feel like they're just kind of. 574 00:22:58,434 --> 00:22:59,914 Speaker 2: Just having a lovely time. Well, a lot of their 575 00:22:59,954 --> 00:23:02,274 Speaker 2: storyline has just been like all the women attacking her. 576 00:23:02,714 --> 00:23:04,674 Speaker 2: So it was interesting when they had their family and 577 00:23:04,714 --> 00:23:07,914 Speaker 2: friends meet up that they said that Beck had been 578 00:23:07,954 --> 00:23:10,474 Speaker 2: out Adelaide drama, out in the mean streets of Adelaide. 579 00:23:10,514 --> 00:23:12,313 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's like she's seeing the streets of Adelaide. 580 00:23:12,354 --> 00:23:14,714 Speaker 2: I might would they take her ten minutes one? 581 00:23:15,114 --> 00:23:17,474 Speaker 1: She's done one life. She went down to the pub. 582 00:23:17,274 --> 00:23:20,273 Speaker 2: And back to get some gossip and is getting up 583 00:23:20,474 --> 00:23:23,833 Speaker 2: dirt on Alyssa, and then at the dinner party, David 584 00:23:23,954 --> 00:23:25,234 Speaker 2: confronted Beck about it. 585 00:23:25,354 --> 00:23:27,754 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued because we don't really know too much about 586 00:23:27,794 --> 00:23:30,513 Speaker 1: what this dirt is, Like, what are they saying? I 587 00:23:30,554 --> 00:23:30,994 Speaker 1: want to know. 588 00:23:31,194 --> 00:23:32,714 Speaker 2: I think it was something to do with and this again, 589 00:23:32,754 --> 00:23:34,273 Speaker 2: this is all the message is happening off screen that 590 00:23:34,314 --> 00:23:35,994 Speaker 2: we don't get to see with something about her like 591 00:23:36,394 --> 00:23:38,714 Speaker 2: talking to an X or like still being in contact 592 00:23:38,714 --> 00:23:40,634 Speaker 2: with an X or something like that. 593 00:23:40,754 --> 00:23:42,914 Speaker 1: So interesting. I feel like Beck has definitely like had 594 00:23:42,914 --> 00:23:45,274 Speaker 1: a target on those who seem like they are really 595 00:23:45,314 --> 00:23:47,874 Speaker 1: solid couples. I think, you know, I think a lot 596 00:23:47,874 --> 00:23:49,634 Speaker 1: of the other couples are picking up on her, like 597 00:23:49,714 --> 00:23:52,474 Speaker 1: deflecting onto them, and we just see it coming out 598 00:23:52,674 --> 00:23:55,194 Speaker 1: through each dinner party. But I really want a welfare 599 00:23:55,274 --> 00:23:58,714 Speaker 1: check on Beck. Yeah, okay, I just feel like she's up, 600 00:23:58,714 --> 00:24:01,513 Speaker 1: she's down, and she's up, she's down, and I concerned. 601 00:24:01,794 --> 00:24:04,313 Speaker 2: I don't know, and I guess Danny also, like I 602 00:24:04,394 --> 00:24:07,754 Speaker 2: want to like him because he's coming across Oh interesting 603 00:24:07,914 --> 00:24:10,234 Speaker 2: because he's coming in across an okay way, But I 604 00:24:10,274 --> 00:24:12,954 Speaker 2: also feel like he's just reading line, He's just telling 605 00:24:12,954 --> 00:24:14,874 Speaker 2: the camera what he thinks the camera and us want 606 00:24:14,874 --> 00:24:16,073 Speaker 2: to hear, is how I feel. 607 00:24:16,234 --> 00:24:17,794 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I feel. I don't think he wants 608 00:24:17,874 --> 00:24:21,034 Speaker 1: to come off badly and he kind of plays on, 609 00:24:21,514 --> 00:24:23,754 Speaker 1: you know, the drama that happens as to why he 610 00:24:23,794 --> 00:24:25,834 Speaker 1: can't get closer to her, but obviously we know before 611 00:24:26,194 --> 00:24:28,474 Speaker 1: the drama started that was already the case. Like, I 612 00:24:28,634 --> 00:24:30,714 Speaker 1: feel as though he wants a bit of a scapegoat, 613 00:24:30,994 --> 00:24:33,513 Speaker 1: So things feel like they're all on her, but really 614 00:24:33,874 --> 00:24:36,634 Speaker 1: we're not seeing them connect on that much of a 615 00:24:36,674 --> 00:24:37,194 Speaker 1: deep level. 616 00:24:37,674 --> 00:24:40,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like he's not as she has liort 617 00:24:40,794 --> 00:24:42,634 Speaker 2: of asked him before, like he's unattracted to her and 618 00:24:42,674 --> 00:24:44,834 Speaker 2: has been married to her, but he's so aware of 619 00:24:44,954 --> 00:24:47,354 Speaker 2: not coming across as the bad guy or even maybe 620 00:24:47,434 --> 00:24:48,874 Speaker 2: hurting her feelings. I don't know. I give him the 621 00:24:48,874 --> 00:24:50,154 Speaker 2: benefit of the best friend level. 622 00:24:50,194 --> 00:24:53,234 Speaker 1: There's something there, but for Beckett just you could see 623 00:24:53,274 --> 00:24:55,754 Speaker 1: how much it means, and like she broke down this week, 624 00:24:56,914 --> 00:24:59,394 Speaker 1: her worst fear is him not being attracted to her 625 00:24:59,554 --> 00:25:01,554 Speaker 1: and him leaving her. Yeah, and I just don't think 626 00:25:01,634 --> 00:25:02,674 Speaker 1: he would say the same thing. 627 00:25:03,194 --> 00:25:05,833 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think every time like something blows up 628 00:25:05,834 --> 00:25:07,793 Speaker 2: in him and he says to her like I'm just 629 00:25:07,834 --> 00:25:09,674 Speaker 2: angry that you didn't believe me, or angry that you 630 00:25:09,714 --> 00:25:12,553 Speaker 2: thought this and then his and then yeah as an 631 00:25:12,594 --> 00:25:15,394 Speaker 2: excuse of like why their relationship. I know it's hard. 632 00:25:15,474 --> 00:25:17,754 Speaker 2: That's what happens when you're marry a random strangers on TV. 633 00:25:18,234 --> 00:25:20,034 Speaker 2: I did think it was like quite big of beck to. 634 00:25:20,754 --> 00:25:22,394 Speaker 2: I know, she got quite like a dressing down at 635 00:25:22,474 --> 00:25:25,273 Speaker 2: last week's commitment ceremony, so I think she realized how 636 00:25:25,354 --> 00:25:27,994 Speaker 2: badly she came across. But I thought it was interesting 637 00:25:28,074 --> 00:25:30,594 Speaker 2: when David was saying to her, like, you know, you've 638 00:25:30,634 --> 00:25:32,114 Speaker 2: done this and you've done that, and she was like, yeah, 639 00:25:32,154 --> 00:25:35,194 Speaker 2: I take full responsibility. That was uncalled for. Shouldn't behave 640 00:25:35,314 --> 00:25:37,033 Speaker 2: like that. I'm like, you're so rare that you hear 641 00:25:37,114 --> 00:25:37,994 Speaker 2: someone in the show say that. 642 00:25:38,354 --> 00:25:40,634 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think she's been able to reflect, and that's 643 00:25:40,674 --> 00:25:43,394 Speaker 1: why I just concerned for her well being because I 644 00:25:43,434 --> 00:25:45,594 Speaker 1: think she is just going through her emotions and she's 645 00:25:45,674 --> 00:25:48,234 Speaker 1: quite reactive, and you can see she has a lot 646 00:25:48,274 --> 00:25:50,793 Speaker 1: of you know, I feel like she her self esteem 647 00:25:51,194 --> 00:25:53,513 Speaker 1: takes a hit from all the drama that's happened. I 648 00:25:53,594 --> 00:25:56,754 Speaker 1: think whenever there's happy couples, it just amplifies what she's 649 00:25:56,834 --> 00:25:59,794 Speaker 1: been seeing in hers and then when she's got Gea 650 00:25:59,954 --> 00:26:02,313 Speaker 1: coming on to Danny, like, I think it's all her 651 00:26:02,514 --> 00:26:05,354 Speaker 1: just feeling like she's taking those hits from everyone and 652 00:26:05,434 --> 00:26:08,154 Speaker 1: that's why she reacts so like viciously. 653 00:26:08,514 --> 00:26:11,554 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Oh yeah, it really does feel like that. Okay, 654 00:26:11,634 --> 00:26:15,033 Speaker 2: one moment of bright happiness before we get into all 655 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:17,513 Speaker 2: the other drama that happened at the dinner party, and 656 00:26:17,594 --> 00:26:20,154 Speaker 2: that is sweet Chris turning to the table and saying, 657 00:26:20,394 --> 00:26:22,194 Speaker 2: would anyone like to hear some good news? 658 00:26:24,154 --> 00:26:25,474 Speaker 1: I love him? I love him? 659 00:26:25,554 --> 00:26:27,034 Speaker 2: And I was like, sir, you are in the wrong 660 00:26:27,114 --> 00:26:27,954 Speaker 2: place for good news. 661 00:26:28,034 --> 00:26:28,834 Speaker 1: You're on the wrong show. 662 00:26:28,914 --> 00:26:30,394 Speaker 2: But you're in the wrong show. You should just be 663 00:26:30,434 --> 00:26:31,954 Speaker 2: off in a lovely show. We get to follow you 664 00:26:32,074 --> 00:26:34,274 Speaker 2: around being a dad and falling in love with hot Sam. 665 00:26:34,674 --> 00:26:36,714 Speaker 2: But I was like, yes, do throw some good news 666 00:26:36,754 --> 00:26:38,354 Speaker 2: into the mix. And I thought it was so cute 667 00:26:38,394 --> 00:26:40,714 Speaker 2: the way he talked about becoming a dad both through 668 00:26:40,794 --> 00:26:43,274 Speaker 2: being a sperm donor to a couple that he's friends 669 00:26:43,314 --> 00:26:45,754 Speaker 2: with and also with a sur again later this year, 670 00:26:46,034 --> 00:26:47,594 Speaker 2: And it was so cute how he was so worried 671 00:26:47,634 --> 00:26:49,634 Speaker 2: about telling Sam when he first came on the show. 672 00:26:49,714 --> 00:26:50,594 Speaker 2: And then he told him. 673 00:26:50,594 --> 00:26:53,514 Speaker 1: Sam so lovely as well, like he's such a sweetie. 674 00:26:53,554 --> 00:26:56,994 Speaker 1: And I feel like the reaction was so genuine and positive, 675 00:26:57,194 --> 00:26:59,033 Speaker 1: and it's nice that now he can just like let 676 00:26:59,114 --> 00:27:01,914 Speaker 1: his walls down and be himself because during the week, 677 00:27:02,114 --> 00:27:03,794 Speaker 1: I feel like Sam said that he did want to 678 00:27:03,794 --> 00:27:06,154 Speaker 1: get closer. Yeah, and I think that was probably the 679 00:27:06,234 --> 00:27:09,033 Speaker 1: wall that was there. You're not able to fully share yourself. 680 00:27:09,074 --> 00:27:11,513 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that they can, you know, come together 681 00:27:11,554 --> 00:27:13,394 Speaker 1: a bit more because I'm not totally sure what the 682 00:27:13,474 --> 00:27:15,394 Speaker 1: vibes are. Yeah, I think they get along quite well, 683 00:27:15,394 --> 00:27:16,634 Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's more than friends. 684 00:27:16,754 --> 00:27:18,194 Speaker 2: I think they get along quite well. I know I 685 00:27:18,274 --> 00:27:20,514 Speaker 2: want them to be madly in love, but only because 686 00:27:20,674 --> 00:27:23,434 Speaker 2: they seem to be only like nice, fun people on 687 00:27:23,594 --> 00:27:26,074 Speaker 2: the show. I know. I'm like, as soon as they 688 00:27:26,314 --> 00:27:27,834 Speaker 2: came into the dinner p and sat down, I'm like, 689 00:27:27,874 --> 00:27:29,674 Speaker 2: you were the only ones I would ever want to 690 00:27:29,714 --> 00:27:31,994 Speaker 2: be in a room with and like actually have dinner 691 00:27:32,074 --> 00:27:33,994 Speaker 2: with and have a glass of wine. I think that 692 00:27:34,074 --> 00:27:36,714 Speaker 2: they're more like bros and friends rather than being in 693 00:27:36,794 --> 00:27:40,114 Speaker 2: love right and getting grover. But maybe it'll maybe it'll happen. 694 00:27:40,514 --> 00:27:43,194 Speaker 1: Because when he told him about the kids. Sam gave 695 00:27:43,274 --> 00:27:44,634 Speaker 1: him a hub yes, Rowie. 696 00:27:45,074 --> 00:27:47,194 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it was a very supportive friend hub 697 00:27:47,474 --> 00:27:49,794 Speaker 2: like the yeah exactly, which I mean, look, I guess 698 00:27:49,994 --> 00:27:51,794 Speaker 2: that's fine, but it's not what you expect from it. 699 00:27:51,874 --> 00:27:53,354 Speaker 1: First, I can't call it off. Yeah yes. 700 00:27:53,474 --> 00:27:55,394 Speaker 2: And also maybe there's just so much else happening around 701 00:27:55,394 --> 00:27:57,394 Speaker 2: and they can't even get into that, which brings us 702 00:27:57,474 --> 00:28:00,354 Speaker 2: to the big throwdown fight of the night, which was 703 00:28:00,394 --> 00:28:05,314 Speaker 2: between Juliet and Joel and Juliet seemingly I don't know 704 00:28:05,354 --> 00:28:06,914 Speaker 2: what's happening behind the scenes of the show, but this 705 00:28:06,994 --> 00:28:14,034 Speaker 2: is the third time seemingly normal ish woman I really liked, Yeah, same. 706 00:28:14,354 --> 00:28:16,714 Speaker 2: This is a third time a normalish woman who has 707 00:28:16,754 --> 00:28:19,073 Speaker 2: been behaving like relatively normal for being I'm married at 708 00:28:19,074 --> 00:28:21,954 Speaker 2: first sight, has come into a dinner party and it's 709 00:28:21,994 --> 00:28:24,954 Speaker 2: like she's been replaced by like again a cyborg, but 710 00:28:25,114 --> 00:28:28,914 Speaker 2: a vicious one because Brook. Yeah exactly, they just cloned her, 711 00:28:28,954 --> 00:28:30,954 Speaker 2: and then they'd been like, oh, she's not performing, sending 712 00:28:30,994 --> 00:28:34,114 Speaker 2: the robot because it happened with Brook, like she was 713 00:28:34,154 --> 00:28:37,553 Speaker 2: acting again like not completely normal but relative to being 714 00:28:37,594 --> 00:28:40,074 Speaker 2: on the show, but like a nice normal woman came 715 00:28:40,114 --> 00:28:44,154 Speaker 2: into that dinner party, absolutely lost her mind, screaming, taunting, 716 00:28:44,314 --> 00:28:47,394 Speaker 2: being so cruel, and afterwards she felt very She looked 717 00:28:47,434 --> 00:28:49,394 Speaker 2: shell shocked, like I can't believe I behave like that. 718 00:28:49,754 --> 00:28:52,474 Speaker 2: Then Beck did the same thing. She came in normal woman, 719 00:28:52,634 --> 00:28:55,954 Speaker 2: came in, lost her ever loving mind, screaming, yelling. 720 00:28:56,234 --> 00:28:58,474 Speaker 1: How did they decide between themselves who's gonna get to 721 00:28:58,634 --> 00:29:01,474 Speaker 1: which one's going to be the crazy one? Talkie? Yeah, 722 00:29:01,714 --> 00:29:03,154 Speaker 1: what's the crazy stick tonight? Guy? 723 00:29:03,274 --> 00:29:05,274 Speaker 2: I honestly said, something is happening where each week they 724 00:29:05,314 --> 00:29:07,034 Speaker 2: have to send in a woman to like set things off. 725 00:29:07,434 --> 00:29:09,874 Speaker 2: And then this week the unlucky candidate was Juliet, who, 726 00:29:09,914 --> 00:29:13,114 Speaker 2: again lovely woman, came in going for it to ever 727 00:29:13,234 --> 00:29:15,514 Speaker 2: loving mind, like she became a different person. 728 00:29:15,634 --> 00:29:19,154 Speaker 1: She was genuinely vicious and it was quite nasty. Yeah, 729 00:29:19,234 --> 00:29:21,194 Speaker 1: she said it with a bit of a smirk. Yeah. 730 00:29:21,474 --> 00:29:24,634 Speaker 2: Again, the same as Brooke and then and Juliet. It's 731 00:29:24,674 --> 00:29:26,794 Speaker 2: like they all went through like a mind transplant, and 732 00:29:26,874 --> 00:29:28,394 Speaker 2: then they went back to normal afterwards. 733 00:29:28,514 --> 00:29:30,834 Speaker 1: It's like a delusional level of confidence to have it 734 00:29:30,874 --> 00:29:33,794 Speaker 1: at dinner party, to be throwing that around, and I 735 00:29:33,954 --> 00:29:36,354 Speaker 1: hope that you know something hasn't happened behind a closed 736 00:29:36,394 --> 00:29:38,554 Speaker 1: door that really has led her to lose her mind. 737 00:29:38,714 --> 00:29:41,114 Speaker 2: Well that that was what I was thinking, because it 738 00:29:41,154 --> 00:29:43,834 Speaker 2: made me think of Melan Luke. Is that that man's name? Sure? Yeah, 739 00:29:43,834 --> 00:29:45,674 Speaker 2: thank god now gone. But you know how she kept 740 00:29:45,714 --> 00:29:48,194 Speaker 2: saying like it seemed like she was just being crazy 741 00:29:48,274 --> 00:29:50,714 Speaker 2: to him, and it seemed like he was being like 742 00:29:51,154 --> 00:29:54,194 Speaker 2: normal ish, and then she kept saying, like, what you've 743 00:29:54,234 --> 00:29:56,354 Speaker 2: put me through, what you've put me through, And we 744 00:29:56,554 --> 00:29:59,434 Speaker 2: kept thinking, surely something has happened that we haven't seen. 745 00:29:59,874 --> 00:30:01,554 Speaker 2: And that's what I'm thinking about these two, because I 746 00:30:01,594 --> 00:30:03,794 Speaker 2: haven't seen anything in the interactions that would make her 747 00:30:03,834 --> 00:30:05,914 Speaker 2: act like that, although we're only seeing this. 748 00:30:06,434 --> 00:30:08,434 Speaker 1: We had to live with him because I don't mind 749 00:30:08,514 --> 00:30:10,554 Speaker 1: watching like an hour of him, like part of an 750 00:30:10,594 --> 00:30:12,634 Speaker 1: hour of him, But if I had to live in 751 00:30:12,794 --> 00:30:16,074 Speaker 1: like four walls with him, yeah, maybe maybe it's that's 752 00:30:16,154 --> 00:30:17,434 Speaker 1: nothing to drive she said. 753 00:30:17,754 --> 00:30:20,754 Speaker 2: She's not like annoyed by him or fatigued by him, 754 00:30:20,914 --> 00:30:23,954 Speaker 2: or she's not like she's viciously like angry and hurt 755 00:30:24,034 --> 00:30:26,554 Speaker 2: by him, which is different to not getting someone's humor. 756 00:30:26,634 --> 00:30:28,794 Speaker 1: And she could be in the same room even they 757 00:30:28,794 --> 00:30:31,914 Speaker 1: were doing those intimacy challenges. She was making him speak 758 00:30:31,954 --> 00:30:34,634 Speaker 1: to her through a door, which again comes across as 759 00:30:34,714 --> 00:30:35,274 Speaker 1: quite rude. 760 00:30:35,994 --> 00:30:37,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I'm not saying she's in the wrong, 761 00:30:37,874 --> 00:30:39,154 Speaker 2: but I'm just saying I just feel like for that 762 00:30:39,354 --> 00:30:42,714 Speaker 2: level of reaction, we need to see something. It just 763 00:30:42,834 --> 00:30:46,274 Speaker 2: seems like his jokes are really bad and he's he's 764 00:30:46,314 --> 00:30:49,714 Speaker 2: got an unlikable personality, fair enough, but it doesn't match 765 00:30:49,834 --> 00:30:52,514 Speaker 2: the viciousness of her response. So they come into the 766 00:30:52,554 --> 00:30:54,314 Speaker 2: dinner party, all the other little fights and the good 767 00:30:54,354 --> 00:30:56,874 Speaker 2: news and stuff is happening, and then this blows up 768 00:30:57,074 --> 00:30:59,794 Speaker 2: over a moment where she tells everyone and they really 769 00:30:59,874 --> 00:31:02,074 Speaker 2: grill him over it that he said he was the 770 00:31:02,154 --> 00:31:02,914 Speaker 2: star of the show. 771 00:31:03,554 --> 00:31:06,354 Speaker 1: I do think she's taken the words out of contact 772 00:31:06,474 --> 00:31:09,074 Speaker 1: me too, because he all he said was you don't 773 00:31:09,074 --> 00:31:12,474 Speaker 1: see the star in me, which probably not the best 774 00:31:12,554 --> 00:31:14,794 Speaker 1: word choice when you are on a show where everybody 775 00:31:14,914 --> 00:31:16,034 Speaker 1: is trying to become a star. 776 00:31:16,554 --> 00:31:18,754 Speaker 2: But I think again, she I think she did miss 777 00:31:18,834 --> 00:31:21,474 Speaker 2: the context, and maybe because she already hated him, maybe 778 00:31:21,514 --> 00:31:23,754 Speaker 2: because like us, she thought he came into the show 779 00:31:23,874 --> 00:31:26,394 Speaker 2: to be a TV stuff and he does come across 780 00:31:26,474 --> 00:31:29,394 Speaker 2: that way. But in fairness to this bizarre man, he 781 00:31:29,594 --> 00:31:32,274 Speaker 2: actually said you don't really see me. You don't see 782 00:31:32,314 --> 00:31:33,874 Speaker 2: the star in me, you don't see the light in me. 783 00:31:34,114 --> 00:31:35,194 Speaker 2: So what he was trying to say is you're not 784 00:31:35,274 --> 00:31:39,954 Speaker 2: seeing context. The context is so important. And so now 785 00:31:40,074 --> 00:31:42,114 Speaker 2: everyone else in the cast thinks that he is come 786 00:31:42,194 --> 00:31:44,594 Speaker 2: in thinking he's the star of a TV show, and 787 00:31:44,714 --> 00:31:45,474 Speaker 2: what he's saying. 788 00:31:45,354 --> 00:31:48,794 Speaker 1: You're just because they're just jealous. Maybe, but I'm the star. 789 00:31:49,994 --> 00:31:51,474 Speaker 1: How can you be the star? I'm the start. 790 00:31:51,554 --> 00:31:53,154 Speaker 2: All he was saying is I have an inner life 791 00:31:53,194 --> 00:31:54,714 Speaker 2: that you are not seeing, which is not a fun. 792 00:31:54,714 --> 00:31:57,394 Speaker 1: Thing to say, but it is equally delusional. 793 00:31:57,554 --> 00:32:00,394 Speaker 2: But it's very different to like, I'm going to take 794 00:32:00,434 --> 00:32:03,954 Speaker 2: the screen time. I do wish someone had rolled that 795 00:32:04,034 --> 00:32:05,914 Speaker 2: tape back to her before she lost her mind, because 796 00:32:05,914 --> 00:32:07,074 Speaker 2: I do wonder if she's going to watch it by 797 00:32:07,154 --> 00:32:08,274 Speaker 2: this week and be like, whoops. 798 00:32:08,554 --> 00:32:11,114 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think she's standing by she's standing 799 00:32:11,154 --> 00:32:13,834 Speaker 1: by what she's saying. And he really did hold firm 800 00:32:13,914 --> 00:32:16,794 Speaker 1: and being quite calm, and I think that was what 801 00:32:17,034 --> 00:32:19,234 Speaker 1: saved him with like the other brides and grooms, like 802 00:32:19,394 --> 00:32:23,074 Speaker 1: they kind of saw Juliet, as you know, overreacting. And 803 00:32:23,154 --> 00:32:25,194 Speaker 1: I hate to say that she's overacting because again, I 804 00:32:25,194 --> 00:32:26,594 Speaker 1: don't know what that woman's been through. 805 00:32:27,074 --> 00:32:29,634 Speaker 2: Yeah again, toways can see the full context. But can 806 00:32:29,674 --> 00:32:31,354 Speaker 2: I say, from what we've seen from the show, which 807 00:32:31,394 --> 00:32:32,594 Speaker 2: is all we can go off, I do think she 808 00:32:32,754 --> 00:32:35,514 Speaker 2: was overreacting and she doesn't want to be married to him, 809 00:32:35,554 --> 00:32:36,754 Speaker 2: fair enough, But also. 810 00:32:36,794 --> 00:32:38,034 Speaker 1: You don't have to like him, but you don't have 811 00:32:38,114 --> 00:32:39,594 Speaker 1: to be nasty, which. 812 00:32:39,634 --> 00:32:42,234 Speaker 2: Being nasty is what leads us to the big debate 813 00:32:42,394 --> 00:32:45,194 Speaker 2: that took over the rest of the episode, and something 814 00:32:45,274 --> 00:32:48,314 Speaker 2: I never saw a bunch of adults discussing on primetime 815 00:32:48,434 --> 00:32:50,794 Speaker 2: television that I'm sure a lot of people are discussing 816 00:32:50,834 --> 00:32:52,514 Speaker 2: in their group chats now, and that is the question 817 00:32:52,634 --> 00:32:54,714 Speaker 2: of is it okay for an adult man to sleep 818 00:32:54,754 --> 00:32:57,354 Speaker 2: with a teddy bear? That was the throwdown side of 819 00:32:57,434 --> 00:32:57,714 Speaker 2: the night. 820 00:32:58,394 --> 00:32:58,994 Speaker 1: What do you think? 821 00:32:59,714 --> 00:33:02,554 Speaker 2: I can't believe we've gone from what was the other 822 00:33:02,594 --> 00:33:07,874 Speaker 2: one that dildo drums to this, and can I just yeah, exactly, Yeah, 823 00:33:08,074 --> 00:33:11,274 Speaker 2: you must have a lot of things. Look him walking 824 00:33:11,474 --> 00:33:16,394 Speaker 2: the bear up the stairs. Very few people can look 825 00:33:16,434 --> 00:33:18,874 Speaker 2: hot while crouching going upstairs and with the bear just 826 00:33:18,954 --> 00:33:22,834 Speaker 2: threw it over. Here's the thing. It's like again, if 827 00:33:22,914 --> 00:33:25,474 Speaker 2: you really loved the person, if I really liked a 828 00:33:25,514 --> 00:33:27,154 Speaker 2: guy and he had a stuff bear, like just in 829 00:33:27,314 --> 00:33:31,754 Speaker 2: his room, probably let it go. I would start to 830 00:33:31,834 --> 00:33:34,074 Speaker 2: get the a little bit if he had it in 831 00:33:34,194 --> 00:33:34,794 Speaker 2: bed with us. 832 00:33:34,954 --> 00:33:36,714 Speaker 1: Well. I even think when women do that, I'm like, 833 00:33:36,794 --> 00:33:38,434 Speaker 1: why are you sleeping with the bear? Yeah? 834 00:33:38,674 --> 00:33:39,474 Speaker 2: I pillow. 835 00:33:39,514 --> 00:33:42,074 Speaker 1: It's not a comfort, Like it's not even like I have. 836 00:33:42,234 --> 00:33:44,354 Speaker 1: I actually sleep with a body pillow. Do you like 837 00:33:44,434 --> 00:33:47,994 Speaker 1: a pregnancy pillow which people seem to find very extaining, But. 838 00:33:48,154 --> 00:33:49,714 Speaker 2: I just find you can call it something else. You 839 00:33:49,754 --> 00:33:52,114 Speaker 2: can be an intimacy pillow. That's so much. 840 00:33:52,914 --> 00:33:54,114 Speaker 1: That's like I've really given up. 841 00:33:55,714 --> 00:33:57,674 Speaker 2: You know, you haven't give up to your face on it. 842 00:33:58,914 --> 00:34:01,434 Speaker 2: You told you like it has a mustache on it. 843 00:34:01,474 --> 00:34:03,994 Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. I mean I think, I mean, look, 844 00:34:03,994 --> 00:34:05,754 Speaker 2: I would be against that. I just instead, I just 845 00:34:05,794 --> 00:34:08,514 Speaker 2: sleep with like five pillows equate to a body pillow. 846 00:34:08,634 --> 00:34:10,594 Speaker 2: So I'm right there with you. Yeah, it's fine. I 847 00:34:10,634 --> 00:34:13,113 Speaker 2: feel like I would have questions about when the teddy 848 00:34:13,114 --> 00:34:15,393 Speaker 2: bear was last washed, because a lot of these men 849 00:34:15,954 --> 00:34:19,114 Speaker 2: have not looked. No, it did not look clean. I 850 00:34:19,154 --> 00:34:20,754 Speaker 2: think he's had it since he was a child, and 851 00:34:20,994 --> 00:34:23,433 Speaker 2: he keeps telling everyone he's thirty one. Just the other 852 00:34:23,514 --> 00:34:25,074 Speaker 2: thing is that they're making fun of him for looking 853 00:34:25,154 --> 00:34:25,553 Speaker 2: too old. 854 00:34:25,674 --> 00:34:26,994 Speaker 1: I'm like, is he thirty one? 855 00:34:27,154 --> 00:34:27,714 Speaker 2: He's thirty one. 856 00:34:27,794 --> 00:34:30,114 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a picture now, Yeah, yeah, I see 857 00:34:30,154 --> 00:34:30,514 Speaker 1: that he. 858 00:34:30,594 --> 00:34:32,154 Speaker 2: Looks a lot. He does look oder than thirty one, 859 00:34:32,234 --> 00:34:34,794 Speaker 2: but that's just because he's embraced his gray hair. I 860 00:34:34,874 --> 00:34:36,754 Speaker 2: feel again, I feel like we can't shame him for that, 861 00:34:36,874 --> 00:34:39,114 Speaker 2: because if we shamed woman for that, it would be very, 862 00:34:39,234 --> 00:34:39,594 Speaker 2: very bad. 863 00:34:39,714 --> 00:34:43,234 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I actually think he's a good looking guy. 864 00:34:43,394 --> 00:34:45,634 Speaker 2: You take away that man's personality and he's a fine 865 00:34:45,674 --> 00:34:46,114 Speaker 2: looking guy. 866 00:34:46,274 --> 00:34:49,074 Speaker 1: Before were complaining that they have no personalities. Then they 867 00:34:49,194 --> 00:34:51,754 Speaker 1: have a personality, and we're like, too much, take it away. 868 00:34:52,354 --> 00:34:54,434 Speaker 2: It's such a fine and middle line. So then everyone 869 00:34:54,514 --> 00:34:56,594 Speaker 2: had to throw down over the Teddy Bear. And then 870 00:34:56,834 --> 00:34:58,554 Speaker 2: my favorite thing is they were taking people off to 871 00:34:58,594 --> 00:35:00,754 Speaker 2: do side interviews about the Teddy Bear. 872 00:35:01,074 --> 00:35:03,434 Speaker 1: It's at that point the producers it's like, two am millig. 873 00:35:03,554 --> 00:35:04,513 Speaker 1: I asked my life. 874 00:35:05,314 --> 00:35:07,393 Speaker 2: I wanted them to get the bear in there, just 875 00:35:07,474 --> 00:35:10,594 Speaker 2: have him on a Finger's. 876 00:35:09,754 --> 00:35:11,474 Speaker 1: Thought, what's the bears read on this? 877 00:35:11,754 --> 00:35:14,513 Speaker 2: I actually thought that Danny, even though I know he's 878 00:35:14,514 --> 00:35:17,754 Speaker 2: a problem man, I liked his take on Beargate the best, 879 00:35:17,874 --> 00:35:20,914 Speaker 2: and his take was, well, maybe he's the most masculine 880 00:35:20,994 --> 00:35:23,714 Speaker 2: of all of us because he's not worried about looking 881 00:35:24,314 --> 00:35:26,234 Speaker 2: unmanly by having the teddy bear. 882 00:35:26,434 --> 00:35:28,834 Speaker 1: I respect that, and I do think that is the 883 00:35:28,914 --> 00:35:31,994 Speaker 1: one thing I can respect about Joel's character that he 884 00:35:32,194 --> 00:35:34,433 Speaker 1: knows he's a weirdo. He knows it's not landing well, 885 00:35:34,594 --> 00:35:36,714 Speaker 1: but he's not afraid to keep trying. 886 00:35:37,114 --> 00:35:41,393 Speaker 2: Exactly. I just let let the man have his teddy bear. 887 00:35:41,634 --> 00:35:44,074 Speaker 2: It's fine again. Don't walk it up the stairs, and 888 00:35:44,114 --> 00:35:46,674 Speaker 2: don't bring it near me, please God, but like, let 889 00:35:46,794 --> 00:35:48,354 Speaker 2: him have it. I just think out of all the 890 00:35:48,434 --> 00:35:51,514 Speaker 2: things that we've seen men on this show do, which is, 891 00:35:51,594 --> 00:35:54,994 Speaker 2: you know, be aggressive towards women, be dismissive, say terrible 892 00:35:55,034 --> 00:35:58,194 Speaker 2: things about their look. It's true, be very sexist, misogynistic. 893 00:35:58,434 --> 00:36:00,594 Speaker 2: I'm so much more worried about that than I am 894 00:36:00,674 --> 00:36:03,194 Speaker 2: about that man having a teddy bear. Who I must say, 895 00:36:03,314 --> 00:36:05,274 Speaker 2: I don't even think he's had attach that bear. I 896 00:36:05,394 --> 00:36:07,513 Speaker 2: think again, he came on to be a quirk star 897 00:36:08,034 --> 00:36:11,074 Speaker 2: and he went so hard he's misjudged the situation. Yeah, 898 00:36:11,154 --> 00:36:12,634 Speaker 2: but I don't think he's out attached the bear. I 899 00:36:12,754 --> 00:36:14,914 Speaker 2: just think he thought Australia would embrace him. 900 00:36:14,834 --> 00:36:16,873 Speaker 1: And I can't believe that was the debate versus all 901 00:36:16,954 --> 00:36:20,994 Speaker 1: of those other really problematic conversations. I noted to dedicate 902 00:36:21,034 --> 00:36:22,634 Speaker 1: the whole dinner party to the bear. 903 00:36:22,754 --> 00:36:25,594 Speaker 2: Exactly, I mean bear Gate. Who would have thought it's 904 00:36:25,714 --> 00:36:28,473 Speaker 2: just become It's become the conversation of our times. Would 905 00:36:28,514 --> 00:36:30,274 Speaker 2: you date a man with a teddy bear? Ask on 906 00:36:30,354 --> 00:36:30,953 Speaker 2: your next date. 907 00:36:30,874 --> 00:36:32,634 Speaker 1: And do let us know, Yeah, that's a good first 908 00:36:32,674 --> 00:36:36,033 Speaker 1: date question. Thanks so much for listening to the Spill today. 909 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,594 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed the episode, the best way in support 910 00:36:38,714 --> 00:36:41,114 Speaker 1: is to give us a five star rating wherever you listen, 911 00:36:41,434 --> 00:36:43,513 Speaker 1: it goes a long way and helping us continue giving 912 00:36:43,554 --> 00:36:46,274 Speaker 1: you guys the best content. 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