1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:23,874 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:18,874 --> 00:00:20,914 Speaker 2: From Mom and Me Out. Welcome to this spill your 3 00:00:20,994 --> 00:00:24,034 Speaker 2: daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm Cassena 4 00:00:24,074 --> 00:00:26,474 Speaker 2: lu Kitch and on the show Tochay, Jennifer Lawrence and 5 00:00:26,594 --> 00:00:28,954 Speaker 2: Rob Pattinson have just kicked off the press tour for 6 00:00:28,994 --> 00:00:31,314 Speaker 2: their new movie and they're pulling out a bit of 7 00:00:31,354 --> 00:00:34,274 Speaker 2: a familiar plot to distruct us from their personal lives. 8 00:00:34,274 --> 00:00:35,793 Speaker 2: Things have gone off the rails. We're going to get 9 00:00:35,833 --> 00:00:38,354 Speaker 2: into that. Plus, Kristen Bell as she is on the 10 00:00:38,354 --> 00:00:41,074 Speaker 2: press tour for season two of Nobody Wants Is, has 11 00:00:41,153 --> 00:00:44,674 Speaker 2: put up a seemingly loving anniversary post to her husband 12 00:00:44,754 --> 00:00:48,553 Speaker 2: Dak Shepherd, and the outrage and backlash around it had 13 00:00:48,593 --> 00:00:52,234 Speaker 2: been very intense. So we're going to unpack that. But first, 14 00:00:52,873 --> 00:00:53,233 Speaker 2: what have. 15 00:00:53,233 --> 00:00:56,394 Speaker 1: We got The season premiere of The Golden Bachelor. 16 00:00:56,794 --> 00:00:59,914 Speaker 2: Yes, The Golden Bachelor, after much hyper much waiting, premiere 17 00:00:59,994 --> 00:01:02,794 Speaker 2: last night on Channel nine. And this is an interesting 18 00:01:02,834 --> 00:01:05,673 Speaker 2: one because the Bachelor franchise well still burns hot and 19 00:01:05,714 --> 00:01:08,473 Speaker 2: bright all around the world, but in Australia for many, 20 00:01:08,514 --> 00:01:11,753 Speaker 2: many years it was one of the number one reality shows, 21 00:01:11,794 --> 00:01:15,114 Speaker 2: pulling in huge ratings and was very much an obsession 22 00:01:15,154 --> 00:01:16,674 Speaker 2: worldwide for everyone who watched it. 23 00:01:16,794 --> 00:01:19,074 Speaker 3: It's definitely fallen out of the zeitgeist because you know, 24 00:01:19,154 --> 00:01:22,114 Speaker 3: it was canceled. No one was really enjoying it anymore. 25 00:01:22,114 --> 00:01:23,474 Speaker 3: But now it's with a different network. 26 00:01:23,754 --> 00:01:25,714 Speaker 2: Yes, So it came to an end with Channel ten 27 00:01:25,834 --> 00:01:28,194 Speaker 2: a few years ago, and their last try to get 28 00:01:28,194 --> 00:01:31,194 Speaker 2: those ratings back was to bring three bachelors into the house. 29 00:01:31,554 --> 00:01:33,634 Speaker 2: But those men were all quite nondescript, and even though 30 00:01:33,634 --> 00:01:35,394 Speaker 2: I was watching it for work, like gun to my head, 31 00:01:35,394 --> 00:01:37,714 Speaker 2: couldn't have told you their names except one of them 32 00:01:37,754 --> 00:01:40,154 Speaker 2: I think wanted to be an influencer. But apart from that, 33 00:01:40,234 --> 00:01:42,194 Speaker 2: it was kind of a very forgettable season. And so 34 00:01:42,274 --> 00:01:44,474 Speaker 2: this idea of how could you bring the Bachelor back 35 00:01:44,794 --> 00:01:47,354 Speaker 2: was an interesting one until Channel nine picked up on 36 00:01:47,394 --> 00:01:50,754 Speaker 2: a franchise that had been wildly successful in the US 37 00:01:50,794 --> 00:01:53,234 Speaker 2: when they launched it, which was The Golden Bachelor. So 38 00:01:53,314 --> 00:01:56,034 Speaker 2: this idea of having a man usually in his sixties 39 00:01:56,354 --> 00:01:58,994 Speaker 2: dating women in their fifties and sixties and kind of 40 00:01:59,114 --> 00:02:00,394 Speaker 2: changing the narrative around. 41 00:02:00,594 --> 00:02:03,194 Speaker 3: I actually love this version of it because it kind 42 00:02:03,274 --> 00:02:07,354 Speaker 3: of taps into the oh of like old people old 43 00:02:07,354 --> 00:02:09,354 Speaker 3: people because they're only sixty they're not that old, Yeah, 44 00:02:09,353 --> 00:02:11,394 Speaker 3: but it does tap into that, you know, it's never 45 00:02:11,434 --> 00:02:13,594 Speaker 3: too late to find love, and you know the hope 46 00:02:13,594 --> 00:02:17,633 Speaker 3: of finding your person even after you've already been married 47 00:02:17,634 --> 00:02:20,634 Speaker 3: and befores it's just got a really nice idea to it. 48 00:02:20,954 --> 00:02:22,114 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's kind of what we saw in the 49 00:02:22,234 --> 00:02:24,874 Speaker 2: US with Jerry. People are obsessed with him. Unfortunately his 50 00:02:24,914 --> 00:02:26,793 Speaker 2: marriage didn't work out. I saw he got married again 51 00:02:26,834 --> 00:02:28,474 Speaker 2: the other day, so maybe he just needed the kickstarter. 52 00:02:28,754 --> 00:02:31,594 Speaker 2: But anyway, last night we were introduced to our new 53 00:02:31,674 --> 00:02:35,234 Speaker 2: golden batch. His name is Barry Murden, but he's called Bear. 54 00:02:35,354 --> 00:02:38,994 Speaker 2: He's sixty one years old. He's an infrastructure engineer and 55 00:02:39,194 --> 00:02:41,514 Speaker 2: he has a really interesting story that I think pull 56 00:02:41,594 --> 00:02:42,954 Speaker 2: people and this is what you need. You need to 57 00:02:42,994 --> 00:02:44,674 Speaker 2: come in with a story that's going to pull people 58 00:02:44,754 --> 00:02:48,034 Speaker 2: in straightaway. So he has three sons and he very 59 00:02:48,074 --> 00:02:50,954 Speaker 2: tragically lost his wife many years ago to brain cancer, 60 00:02:51,434 --> 00:02:53,554 Speaker 2: and he talked about having to put everything in his 61 00:02:53,594 --> 00:02:55,994 Speaker 2: life on hold after like the passing of his true 62 00:02:55,994 --> 00:02:57,754 Speaker 2: love and how that nearly broke him in to look 63 00:02:57,794 --> 00:03:01,514 Speaker 2: after his three sons. And he shared that story and 64 00:03:02,274 --> 00:03:05,114 Speaker 2: you could just see people around Australia tearing up all 65 00:03:05,154 --> 00:03:07,434 Speaker 2: of a sudden, everyone's on his side. There were very 66 00:03:07,434 --> 00:03:10,754 Speaker 2: into the narrative, so when the twenty women came along 67 00:03:11,114 --> 00:03:13,114 Speaker 2: that you know, hopefully he's going to fall in love 68 00:03:13,154 --> 00:03:15,794 Speaker 2: with them. People were already very invested in this, like 69 00:03:15,914 --> 00:03:17,274 Speaker 2: reinvention of a fairy tale. 70 00:03:17,474 --> 00:03:19,994 Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely is very I missed it last night, 71 00:03:20,114 --> 00:03:21,834 Speaker 3: so I'm going to be asking you guys some questions 72 00:03:21,834 --> 00:03:24,194 Speaker 3: about it because I don't know what happened, but the 73 00:03:24,234 --> 00:03:28,714 Speaker 3: widower storyline is definitely something that's gonna make audiences very happening. 74 00:03:28,794 --> 00:03:30,994 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it really didn't. There was every woman who 75 00:03:31,034 --> 00:03:32,794 Speaker 2: came in had kind of like her story to tell, 76 00:03:32,794 --> 00:03:34,154 Speaker 2: which is the whole thing with the batch. But I 77 00:03:34,194 --> 00:03:36,634 Speaker 2: think why it had gotten tied is that a lot 78 00:03:36,634 --> 00:03:38,874 Speaker 2: of people then when they saw how popular the show 79 00:03:38,874 --> 00:03:41,394 Speaker 2: got and how popular the contestants got for it, everyone 80 00:03:41,514 --> 00:03:43,714 Speaker 2: was coming with almost like an act, and so you 81 00:03:43,754 --> 00:03:46,394 Speaker 2: didn't really have those real people, real stories. It didn't 82 00:03:46,394 --> 00:03:49,314 Speaker 2: feel like there was any organic kind of moments. It 83 00:03:49,354 --> 00:03:51,074 Speaker 2: was like everyone was coming in see how many followers 84 00:03:51,074 --> 00:03:53,394 Speaker 2: they could get. But you had these women coming being 85 00:03:53,394 --> 00:03:55,394 Speaker 2: like I'm a grandmother of five, or I've been divorced 86 00:03:55,434 --> 00:03:58,154 Speaker 2: for this many years or I couldn't have children, and 87 00:03:58,194 --> 00:04:00,274 Speaker 2: now I'm just trying my luck to find a partner 88 00:04:00,274 --> 00:04:02,394 Speaker 2: like you had all these beautiful stories, and I know 89 00:04:02,474 --> 00:04:05,194 Speaker 2: I producer that. Manitia. You watched it, you love love, 90 00:04:05,714 --> 00:04:08,434 Speaker 2: I do everything in the whole world. As I was 91 00:04:08,474 --> 00:04:12,154 Speaker 2: watching it last night, I was thinking Manitia's crying. 92 00:04:12,714 --> 00:04:13,994 Speaker 1: I was getting a little missy. 93 00:04:14,074 --> 00:04:16,154 Speaker 4: I'm actually not that much of a crier, but his 94 00:04:16,234 --> 00:04:19,154 Speaker 4: story really got me. Yeah, footage, the beautiful footage of 95 00:04:19,194 --> 00:04:22,794 Speaker 4: his wife and their kids. It's almost like in a 96 00:04:22,834 --> 00:04:25,553 Speaker 4: film where you cut to someone's partners passed away and. 97 00:04:25,474 --> 00:04:28,113 Speaker 1: They bought all these home videos. It was really beautiful. 98 00:04:28,193 --> 00:04:30,753 Speaker 2: Yeah, and son, you had a personal connection. So did 99 00:04:30,794 --> 00:04:33,674 Speaker 2: you have given favorites of the women who came through. 100 00:04:33,794 --> 00:04:35,953 Speaker 2: We did see some women go home last night, unfortunately, 101 00:04:35,953 --> 00:04:37,833 Speaker 2: but in true bachelor's style for we don't know them, 102 00:04:37,953 --> 00:04:39,713 Speaker 2: they didn't get any screen times. So when they left 103 00:04:39,714 --> 00:04:41,553 Speaker 2: her a bit like, oh okay, yeah, sad for you. 104 00:04:41,594 --> 00:04:44,113 Speaker 4: But you know, so, I think the top three contenders, 105 00:04:44,113 --> 00:04:46,073 Speaker 4: and this could change for me week to week, but 106 00:04:46,193 --> 00:04:47,994 Speaker 4: usually I'm right. I've got the winner in my top 107 00:04:48,113 --> 00:04:51,794 Speaker 4: three historically. Yeah, so my top three contenders are Jan, 108 00:04:52,274 --> 00:04:54,273 Speaker 4: she got the first impression rows she's the one with 109 00:04:54,274 --> 00:04:57,034 Speaker 4: the cool pixie cut. She's an age transformation coach. That's 110 00:04:57,073 --> 00:04:58,113 Speaker 4: not a real job. I won't help. 111 00:04:58,193 --> 00:05:00,833 Speaker 1: Sorry, come on, what is an age transformation? 112 00:05:01,113 --> 00:05:02,714 Speaker 4: I tried to find out because any I don't know. 113 00:05:03,193 --> 00:05:04,833 Speaker 4: I think it's some form of life coach. 114 00:05:05,234 --> 00:05:07,754 Speaker 2: Happy for her, and she got the white the traditional 115 00:05:07,753 --> 00:05:09,794 Speaker 2: WiFi edit, you know how like they play the theme 116 00:05:09,953 --> 00:05:12,513 Speaker 2: music and can I say I've seen many uncut clips 117 00:05:12,553 --> 00:05:14,234 Speaker 2: of the Bachelor of the Years because they send you 118 00:05:14,274 --> 00:05:16,073 Speaker 2: the screen as you can sometimes watch it before they 119 00:05:16,073 --> 00:05:18,234 Speaker 2: add music, or at least they used to, and the 120 00:05:18,313 --> 00:05:21,034 Speaker 2: music changes everything. So Jan was the one who got 121 00:05:21,034 --> 00:05:24,553 Speaker 2: the twinkly fairy tale traditional wife music. So you know 122 00:05:24,633 --> 00:05:26,993 Speaker 2: from the moment she arrived that she was going to 123 00:05:27,034 --> 00:05:28,033 Speaker 2: be like a top contender. 124 00:05:28,154 --> 00:05:30,474 Speaker 1: I mean, did you guys watch that series? Unreal? 125 00:05:30,714 --> 00:05:32,634 Speaker 3: Wait, they kind of got behind the scenes of one 126 00:05:32,633 --> 00:05:34,794 Speaker 3: of these types of shows. Yeah, does it feel like 127 00:05:34,834 --> 00:05:37,273 Speaker 3: that they like planning out who is gonna win this? 128 00:05:37,474 --> 00:05:38,113 Speaker 1: Do you feel that? 129 00:05:38,474 --> 00:05:38,634 Speaker 5: No? 130 00:05:38,753 --> 00:05:41,354 Speaker 4: I think Australian reality shows are a little less produced 131 00:05:41,354 --> 00:05:43,034 Speaker 4: than American reality shows in that way. 132 00:05:43,393 --> 00:05:45,393 Speaker 1: But I do think the fact that Jan got the. 133 00:05:45,354 --> 00:05:47,674 Speaker 4: First impression Rose probably means she won't be the winner 134 00:05:47,714 --> 00:05:49,234 Speaker 4: because that's too obvious. 135 00:05:49,313 --> 00:05:51,474 Speaker 2: They often don't show the winner. It's like when with 136 00:05:51,633 --> 00:05:54,113 Speaker 2: Georgia Love season, she always says like it was Lee's 137 00:05:54,113 --> 00:05:56,553 Speaker 2: straight away from me, and you could see that in 138 00:05:56,633 --> 00:05:58,873 Speaker 2: the real life footage, but they edited him out so 139 00:05:58,914 --> 00:06:00,594 Speaker 2: much because they're like, no one's gonna care if they 140 00:06:00,594 --> 00:06:03,273 Speaker 2: know he's peen picked from the start, so they can 141 00:06:03,313 --> 00:06:04,674 Speaker 2: make it look like it's someone else. 142 00:06:04,953 --> 00:06:06,873 Speaker 4: Yeah, and also I love that they show the boit 143 00:06:06,873 --> 00:06:09,033 Speaker 4: where she said she hasn't been attracted to a man 144 00:06:09,193 --> 00:06:09,993 Speaker 4: in twenty. 145 00:06:09,674 --> 00:06:11,273 Speaker 2: Five years since her last husband. 146 00:06:11,313 --> 00:06:12,354 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I. 147 00:06:12,274 --> 00:06:13,913 Speaker 2: Hope a lot of men are the worst. 148 00:06:14,393 --> 00:06:16,714 Speaker 1: I can't relate to that every day, I know. 149 00:06:17,594 --> 00:06:19,794 Speaker 4: The other two on my list were Kim, who I 150 00:06:19,794 --> 00:06:22,714 Speaker 4: have a crush on. She's the first intruder. She's so cool. 151 00:06:22,794 --> 00:06:25,074 Speaker 4: She does like motor sports. She's a doctor in the Navy. 152 00:06:25,274 --> 00:06:27,194 Speaker 4: She's lived all over the world and also fit in 153 00:06:27,234 --> 00:06:30,553 Speaker 4: and having in all these kids. She's lost two husbands. 154 00:06:30,393 --> 00:06:32,113 Speaker 1: She's a great story. 155 00:06:32,234 --> 00:06:34,714 Speaker 4: They really connected over their grief and she's just like 156 00:06:34,794 --> 00:06:37,474 Speaker 4: a very cool chick. Her best friend is also one 157 00:06:37,513 --> 00:06:39,433 Speaker 4: of the contestants and I don't understand how they didn't 158 00:06:39,474 --> 00:06:41,714 Speaker 4: know each other were going on. She's like, my bestie's 159 00:06:41,753 --> 00:06:42,874 Speaker 4: here in the match, and I'm like. 160 00:06:43,274 --> 00:06:44,714 Speaker 1: That's how do you keep that a secret? 161 00:06:44,714 --> 00:06:46,473 Speaker 2: Well, I know, maybe they just didn't tell each other 162 00:06:46,474 --> 00:06:48,674 Speaker 2: they're applied or so. You do hear stories of producers 163 00:06:48,674 --> 00:06:50,633 Speaker 2: calling people the night before and mean like, if you're in, 164 00:06:50,714 --> 00:06:52,594 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a car at five am there tomorrow. 165 00:06:52,674 --> 00:06:53,873 Speaker 2: Like that sort of stuff happens. 166 00:06:54,073 --> 00:06:55,753 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's just like the spill. 167 00:06:55,794 --> 00:06:57,794 Speaker 2: We give you a call up, Yeah, you know you're 168 00:06:57,794 --> 00:06:59,993 Speaker 2: on tomorrow, Jump in the chair, yeah, exactly. 169 00:07:00,154 --> 00:07:03,113 Speaker 3: Is the magic of this that it's more earnest, Like 170 00:07:03,234 --> 00:07:05,793 Speaker 3: the cast are more earnest, and it feels more real. 171 00:07:06,513 --> 00:07:07,794 Speaker 1: I think they are. I'm quite earnest. 172 00:07:07,834 --> 00:07:10,474 Speaker 4: I also think less people are probably on there for 173 00:07:10,994 --> 00:07:14,434 Speaker 4: influencer fame, and it does give the vibe that genuinely 174 00:07:14,474 --> 00:07:17,194 Speaker 4: some people are there looking for someone. I also think 175 00:07:17,274 --> 00:07:20,393 Speaker 4: Jeanette is a strong contender. She seems like she's the 176 00:07:20,474 --> 00:07:23,154 Speaker 4: first arrival. First arrival is always really important. I felt 177 00:07:23,154 --> 00:07:25,754 Speaker 4: they had a really good connection. So who do you 178 00:07:25,754 --> 00:07:26,554 Speaker 4: think Laura? 179 00:07:26,714 --> 00:07:28,594 Speaker 2: I thought from the moment I heard the Twin clean music, 180 00:07:28,634 --> 00:07:30,794 Speaker 2: it was jan but also I know that sometimes they do, 181 00:07:30,874 --> 00:07:33,194 Speaker 2: you know, do a bit of our side step. So 182 00:07:33,234 --> 00:07:34,714 Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to see. And we've got a 183 00:07:34,714 --> 00:07:37,274 Speaker 2: few women also coming in with like some interesting stories 184 00:07:37,314 --> 00:07:39,194 Speaker 2: that are kind of linked to the public. So Laura 185 00:07:39,234 --> 00:07:42,794 Speaker 2: is Abby Chatfield's mom's very famously a Bachelor contestant who 186 00:07:42,834 --> 00:07:45,153 Speaker 2: didn't win but then wanted to become super successful. And 187 00:07:45,194 --> 00:07:47,314 Speaker 2: also Bianca Dias and people are like, I'm obsessed with 188 00:07:47,314 --> 00:07:48,874 Speaker 2: this woman. Where did she come from? But she's been 189 00:07:49,114 --> 00:07:52,794 Speaker 2: like a radio host and TV personality for over thirty years. 190 00:07:53,114 --> 00:07:54,914 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's getting a bit of a craze cray edit 191 00:07:54,953 --> 00:07:57,034 Speaker 4: though I know it's not going well so far. 192 00:07:57,314 --> 00:07:59,354 Speaker 2: I know, but I think the only people who are 193 00:07:59,393 --> 00:08:01,114 Speaker 2: reacting that way, and a lot of people work is 194 00:08:01,154 --> 00:08:03,034 Speaker 2: that maybe they're not used to like hearing her on 195 00:08:03,074 --> 00:08:05,434 Speaker 2: the radio, seeing her on TV, or she's shared like 196 00:08:05,594 --> 00:08:08,074 Speaker 2: so much of her life that I feel like she's 197 00:08:08,074 --> 00:08:10,514 Speaker 2: almost coming in with the idea that the audience have 198 00:08:10,674 --> 00:08:12,593 Speaker 2: known her for thirty years and so they might know 199 00:08:12,634 --> 00:08:15,354 Speaker 2: a little bit. But there's Yeah, there's a lot of different, 200 00:08:15,393 --> 00:08:17,234 Speaker 2: like interesting people in there, and there's also been a 201 00:08:17,274 --> 00:08:20,274 Speaker 2: little bit of drama in the lead up because when 202 00:08:20,274 --> 00:08:22,473 Speaker 2: they were filming the show and they started doing promo 203 00:08:22,594 --> 00:08:25,354 Speaker 2: and they like bear and then the host Samantha Armitage, 204 00:08:25,393 --> 00:08:27,514 Speaker 2: were walking the law Yue's red carpet together and started 205 00:08:27,554 --> 00:08:30,514 Speaker 2: doing press together. This wild rumor started that they were 206 00:08:30,514 --> 00:08:32,674 Speaker 2: hooking up and the show was going to end with 207 00:08:32,714 --> 00:08:36,754 Speaker 2: them together because sam Armitage had separated from her husband, 208 00:08:36,834 --> 00:08:38,954 Speaker 2: Richard Lavender like previously and like and. 209 00:08:39,314 --> 00:08:40,594 Speaker 1: It just like really took off. 210 00:08:40,634 --> 00:08:43,594 Speaker 2: So the whole time they're doing these press runs, Samantha 211 00:08:43,674 --> 00:08:45,914 Speaker 2: Armages has had to be saying, like, I'm not dating 212 00:08:45,914 --> 00:08:47,634 Speaker 2: the Bachelor. That's not the plot twist. I mean, that 213 00:08:48,394 --> 00:08:50,474 Speaker 2: would be a really good TV kind. 214 00:08:50,314 --> 00:08:52,554 Speaker 1: Of wanted to be true. I don't think it is. 215 00:08:53,354 --> 00:08:55,154 Speaker 1: I would love that plot twist. Okay. 216 00:08:55,154 --> 00:08:57,074 Speaker 3: One of my favorite things about The Bachelor is the 217 00:08:57,194 --> 00:08:59,554 Speaker 3: entrances and some of the crazy entances. Do we get 218 00:08:59,554 --> 00:09:01,154 Speaker 3: any like really wild ones. 219 00:09:01,514 --> 00:09:02,834 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had some people doing a bit of a 220 00:09:02,914 --> 00:09:05,274 Speaker 2: dance and like, but not not as crazy as when 221 00:09:05,314 --> 00:09:08,074 Speaker 2: it like got to like when the Batchel ratings started 222 00:09:08,074 --> 00:09:10,714 Speaker 2: really faltering and you had people coming in with like 223 00:09:11,114 --> 00:09:13,514 Speaker 2: a full costume and like a skit prepared and like 224 00:09:13,594 --> 00:09:16,034 Speaker 2: fire twirling and not not and all that sort of stuff. 225 00:09:16,074 --> 00:09:16,794 Speaker 1: There was a horse. 226 00:09:16,914 --> 00:09:19,953 Speaker 2: There was a horse that was fun and a poem, 227 00:09:20,114 --> 00:09:22,034 Speaker 2: a dance and one was really nervous. So he's like, 228 00:09:22,074 --> 00:09:24,074 Speaker 2: take off your shoes and like, let's touch the set. 229 00:09:25,994 --> 00:09:27,674 Speaker 2: That all I want is a man to tell me 230 00:09:27,714 --> 00:09:29,994 Speaker 2: to touch grass. Okay. 231 00:09:30,154 --> 00:09:31,953 Speaker 3: One of the things I've been saying though, is that 232 00:09:32,114 --> 00:09:34,914 Speaker 3: Abbi Chatfield's mom being on there. Do we think Abby 233 00:09:34,954 --> 00:09:37,434 Speaker 3: Chatfield's Mom's going to make it to like the home 234 00:09:37,474 --> 00:09:40,954 Speaker 3: week so that they can do more time with Abby. 235 00:09:41,194 --> 00:09:42,794 Speaker 1: We haven't had enough airtime of her yet. 236 00:09:42,954 --> 00:09:44,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't had. We do know that she's been 237 00:09:44,674 --> 00:09:47,074 Speaker 2: catching with a lot of contestants from the show. That's 238 00:09:47,074 --> 00:09:50,234 Speaker 2: what Laura was saying about, like what's happened afterwards? So 239 00:09:50,354 --> 00:09:52,434 Speaker 2: I'm guessing she stays on for a while enough times 240 00:09:52,474 --> 00:09:54,874 Speaker 2: she started to make friendships. But yeah, I don't know. 241 00:09:54,914 --> 00:09:56,634 Speaker 2: We're only one episode in, but I've got a good 242 00:09:56,634 --> 00:09:58,034 Speaker 2: feeling about this. I think it's gonna be a good 243 00:09:58,074 --> 00:09:58,514 Speaker 2: run for them. 244 00:09:58,594 --> 00:10:00,394 Speaker 4: I think everyone needs to get on there and we 245 00:10:00,434 --> 00:10:02,074 Speaker 4: need to get excited about it like we used to 246 00:10:02,154 --> 00:10:05,034 Speaker 4: with the Bachelor, and I used to throw finale parties. 247 00:10:05,634 --> 00:10:07,474 Speaker 2: We'll do that in a glass who you. 248 00:10:07,394 --> 00:10:08,114 Speaker 4: Thought was gonna win? 249 00:10:08,154 --> 00:10:09,354 Speaker 1: Like, we've got to do that, Okay. 250 00:10:09,114 --> 00:10:12,354 Speaker 2: We will, Nana, Nana. So we've been given a bit 251 00:10:12,354 --> 00:10:13,874 Speaker 2: of a gift at the moment, which is the fact 252 00:10:13,874 --> 00:10:16,713 Speaker 2: that Jennifer Lawrence and Robert Pattinson have teamed up for 253 00:10:16,754 --> 00:10:18,714 Speaker 2: a new movie and they're on the press run for it. 254 00:10:19,074 --> 00:10:21,114 Speaker 2: So the movie, which is coming out soon in Australia, 255 00:10:21,194 --> 00:10:23,794 Speaker 2: is called Dime My Love, and it's a new psychological 256 00:10:23,914 --> 00:10:27,554 Speaker 2: black comedy drama. And in it, Jennifer Lawrence plays Grace, 257 00:10:27,674 --> 00:10:31,314 Speaker 2: so she's a young mother who develops postpartum depression, and 258 00:10:31,354 --> 00:10:34,314 Speaker 2: then Rob Pattinson plays her husband, Jackson, who also enters 259 00:10:34,314 --> 00:10:36,194 Speaker 2: into a psychosis. So it's a bit of a dark 260 00:10:36,234 --> 00:10:38,234 Speaker 2: subject matter. But these two love to have a little 261 00:10:38,274 --> 00:10:40,754 Speaker 2: bit of a laugh on their press tours and they've 262 00:10:40,754 --> 00:10:43,234 Speaker 2: really been taking it to new levels this time around. 263 00:10:43,514 --> 00:10:45,754 Speaker 3: I feel like these two are such a listers, but 264 00:10:46,154 --> 00:10:48,034 Speaker 3: do we really know them? 265 00:10:48,074 --> 00:10:49,714 Speaker 1: Are they kind of putting a bit of an act on? 266 00:10:50,274 --> 00:10:52,034 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing, I guess. There was so much 267 00:10:52,074 --> 00:10:54,314 Speaker 2: excitement when they first walked a red carpet together at 268 00:10:54,314 --> 00:10:56,634 Speaker 2: a film festival many months ago, and we have no 269 00:10:56,674 --> 00:10:58,914 Speaker 2: one for a while. They are in the same friendship circle, 270 00:10:58,954 --> 00:11:01,074 Speaker 2: but they've never had like lead roles in a movie 271 00:11:01,114 --> 00:11:02,914 Speaker 2: like this together, and so there was a lot of 272 00:11:02,954 --> 00:11:05,714 Speaker 2: anticipation for kind of how they would interact or only 273 00:11:05,714 --> 00:11:06,994 Speaker 2: signed to get a bit of a taste of it. 274 00:11:07,234 --> 00:11:10,194 Speaker 2: So Jennifer Lawrence went on The Graham Norton Show, and 275 00:11:10,194 --> 00:11:12,634 Speaker 2: in typical Jonah for Laurence style, she had like a 276 00:11:12,674 --> 00:11:15,714 Speaker 2: whole story prepared about Robert, and she started talking about 277 00:11:15,714 --> 00:11:17,594 Speaker 2: how she was at home with her girlfriends one night 278 00:11:17,634 --> 00:11:19,474 Speaker 2: and they were watching Little Women and like having a 279 00:11:19,514 --> 00:11:21,434 Speaker 2: fun time, and then she got a call from Robert 280 00:11:21,434 --> 00:11:22,994 Speaker 2: that he had like wrapped working on something and he 281 00:11:23,034 --> 00:11:25,554 Speaker 2: was nearby, so he showed up. And because they're really 282 00:11:25,554 --> 00:11:27,874 Speaker 2: close friends, and she always says, he's one of the girls. 283 00:11:27,874 --> 00:11:30,274 Speaker 2: He's down to gossip, he's down to hang when he's 284 00:11:30,274 --> 00:11:32,794 Speaker 2: with us. She treats him both like a sister and 285 00:11:32,834 --> 00:11:34,874 Speaker 2: a daughter, which I really love that dynamic for them. 286 00:11:34,994 --> 00:11:36,474 Speaker 2: And so of course he knocked on the door and 287 00:11:36,554 --> 00:11:39,194 Speaker 2: asked if she had any food, and this is what happened. 288 00:11:39,314 --> 00:11:40,994 Speaker 5: So he comes in and I give him a hug 289 00:11:41,074 --> 00:11:42,794 Speaker 5: and he's like, do you have any food? 290 00:11:43,834 --> 00:11:46,674 Speaker 6: So hungry, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, come in, 291 00:11:46,754 --> 00:11:48,114 Speaker 6: come in, And then he goes to the bathroom and 292 00:11:48,194 --> 00:11:51,634 Speaker 6: I do have food, but it's in the trash. And 293 00:11:51,674 --> 00:11:53,434 Speaker 6: so while he was in the bathroom, I was just 294 00:11:53,474 --> 00:11:58,394 Speaker 6: like pulling food out of my garbage and my girlfriends. 295 00:11:57,954 --> 00:12:01,914 Speaker 5: Were like, and I'm like, well, so. 296 00:12:01,954 --> 00:12:03,994 Speaker 6: He eats it, and we're all just kind of like. 297 00:12:06,434 --> 00:12:09,914 Speaker 5: This trap. And then when he was finished, he was like, 298 00:12:10,154 --> 00:12:12,514 Speaker 5: I'm still hungry as them are, and I'm like, well, 299 00:12:12,514 --> 00:12:15,314 Speaker 5: there is, but it's in the garbage. And he. 300 00:12:21,714 --> 00:12:23,434 Speaker 2: Sounds like the ideal housekifs. 301 00:12:23,474 --> 00:12:25,634 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh my god. 302 00:12:26,394 --> 00:12:27,794 Speaker 2: I'm glad he knew it was out of the trash. 303 00:12:27,794 --> 00:12:29,274 Speaker 2: So I'm like, what if he was hearing about this 304 00:12:29,354 --> 00:12:31,154 Speaker 2: for the first time on the show and being like 305 00:12:31,234 --> 00:12:32,834 Speaker 2: I thought that pizza tasted weird. 306 00:12:32,874 --> 00:12:34,674 Speaker 3: It's so interesting to me that the Bestie is because 307 00:12:34,674 --> 00:12:38,754 Speaker 3: I've always found Robert Pattinson quite sardonic and like sarcastic, 308 00:12:39,234 --> 00:12:41,874 Speaker 3: and Jennifer Lawrence has always been such a fun loving, 309 00:12:41,914 --> 00:12:43,994 Speaker 3: like a bit of the goofy girls. I'm interested that 310 00:12:43,994 --> 00:12:44,834 Speaker 3: they're like Bestie. 311 00:12:45,074 --> 00:12:45,274 Speaker 5: Yeah. 312 00:12:45,314 --> 00:12:46,794 Speaker 2: I feel like they do have a similar sense of 313 00:12:46,834 --> 00:12:48,834 Speaker 2: humor and they both have the same kind of shtick 314 00:12:48,874 --> 00:12:51,794 Speaker 2: when it comes to press tours is that they both 315 00:12:51,914 --> 00:12:54,234 Speaker 2: don't like to talk about their personal life. So I 316 00:12:54,234 --> 00:12:56,914 Speaker 2: mean Robert does a little bit because Suki Waterhouse, his 317 00:12:57,034 --> 00:12:59,354 Speaker 2: partner and the mother of his child, is also famous, 318 00:12:59,354 --> 00:13:02,194 Speaker 2: but they never really talk too much about their relationship. 319 00:13:02,434 --> 00:13:04,674 Speaker 2: They don't talk about their children. So Jennifer's got two 320 00:13:04,754 --> 00:13:07,554 Speaker 2: children now and Robert's got one child with Suki, and 321 00:13:07,594 --> 00:13:09,874 Speaker 2: they don't like to talk about like past co stars, 322 00:13:09,914 --> 00:13:12,874 Speaker 2: scandals or way in on anything like deep or political 323 00:13:12,994 --> 00:13:15,194 Speaker 2: too much. Jennifer Lauren's a little bit. She did do 324 00:13:15,234 --> 00:13:16,833 Speaker 2: a lot of political activism for a while, but I 325 00:13:16,874 --> 00:13:19,194 Speaker 2: think when they're doing these little soundbites on a talk show, 326 00:13:19,354 --> 00:13:21,354 Speaker 2: they want to keep it really light. So they always 327 00:13:21,354 --> 00:13:24,514 Speaker 2: have these like crazy stories to roll out. So Jennifer 328 00:13:24,554 --> 00:13:26,634 Speaker 2: will be like tell stories when she's on a press 329 00:13:26,754 --> 00:13:29,874 Speaker 2: run about like falling down the stairs at something, or 330 00:13:30,194 --> 00:13:32,474 Speaker 2: like getting trapped naked in the bathroom at work, or 331 00:13:32,514 --> 00:13:35,154 Speaker 2: filming X Men, or like embarrassing herself in front of 332 00:13:35,194 --> 00:13:37,554 Speaker 2: Harrison Ford and him not knowing who. Like She's always 333 00:13:37,594 --> 00:13:40,074 Speaker 2: got these like stories prepped and ready to go. 334 00:13:40,154 --> 00:13:42,954 Speaker 3: It's very clever par actually, because you come with this 335 00:13:43,034 --> 00:13:45,114 Speaker 3: pre prepared story. You know that the press are going 336 00:13:45,154 --> 00:13:46,434 Speaker 3: to write on it, you know that there's going to 337 00:13:46,474 --> 00:13:47,994 Speaker 3: be a headline on it, and no one's going to 338 00:13:48,034 --> 00:13:49,154 Speaker 3: ask you about your relationship. 339 00:13:49,274 --> 00:13:52,234 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like very clever, Yeah exactly. And Robert's kind 340 00:13:52,234 --> 00:13:54,874 Speaker 2: of the same, Like he also doesn't like to give 341 00:13:54,914 --> 00:13:57,234 Speaker 2: any information at his personal life, which is fair enough. 342 00:13:57,354 --> 00:13:59,674 Speaker 2: The other thing about Jennifer Lawrence and Robert Pattinson is 343 00:13:59,714 --> 00:14:03,994 Speaker 2: that they've both been burned by really distressing personal stories 344 00:14:04,034 --> 00:14:07,954 Speaker 2: and being like raked through these like media big firestorm. 345 00:14:08,074 --> 00:14:10,354 Speaker 2: So like with Jennifer Lawrence, there's been like her relationship 346 00:14:10,354 --> 00:14:12,834 Speaker 2: with famous people like Nicholas Holt, but there was also 347 00:14:12,834 --> 00:14:15,034 Speaker 2: that time all the photos were taken off her phone, 348 00:14:15,074 --> 00:14:17,274 Speaker 2: all those naked photos that she was sending to Nicholas 349 00:14:17,274 --> 00:14:19,074 Speaker 2: hold at the time because they're in a long distance 350 00:14:19,154 --> 00:14:21,554 Speaker 2: relationship and she was talking about wanting to like keep 351 00:14:21,554 --> 00:14:23,994 Speaker 2: their relationship alive, and then she got like shamed for 352 00:14:24,034 --> 00:14:26,154 Speaker 2: having them on her phone, even though like the contents 353 00:14:26,234 --> 00:14:28,194 Speaker 2: was stolen and uploaded to the public, which is like 354 00:14:28,194 --> 00:14:30,314 Speaker 2: the most horrific thing you can go through. And then 355 00:14:30,314 --> 00:14:32,794 Speaker 2: when Robin Pattinson, obviously he was in that relationship with 356 00:14:32,874 --> 00:14:35,794 Speaker 2: Kristen Stewart for many, many years, and then those photos 357 00:14:35,834 --> 00:14:39,234 Speaker 2: came out of her making out with her snow White director, 358 00:14:39,754 --> 00:14:42,754 Speaker 2: and those photos went everywhere, and then she publicly apologized 359 00:14:42,754 --> 00:14:44,514 Speaker 2: to him, and for a couple that had tried to 360 00:14:44,594 --> 00:14:48,794 Speaker 2: be so private and for that to blow up, he 361 00:14:48,874 --> 00:14:50,594 Speaker 2: really didn't do a lot of press for a long 362 00:14:50,634 --> 00:14:52,474 Speaker 2: time after that, and he's got a really sort of 363 00:14:52,794 --> 00:14:55,434 Speaker 2: hard line about not talking about anything to do with 364 00:14:55,514 --> 00:14:58,394 Speaker 2: that time. And so now he also has these crazy 365 00:14:58,394 --> 00:15:01,154 Speaker 2: stories to bring out, like he'll be doing an interview 366 00:15:01,194 --> 00:15:02,834 Speaker 2: and talk about how he smells like a crayon. 367 00:15:03,114 --> 00:15:03,234 Speaker 5: All. 368 00:15:03,314 --> 00:15:05,154 Speaker 2: There was that time doing that GQ interviewed. That was 369 00:15:05,194 --> 00:15:07,754 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two when he was doing doing an 370 00:15:07,834 --> 00:15:09,914 Speaker 2: interview and he was trying to tell the interview because 371 00:15:09,914 --> 00:15:12,154 Speaker 2: he wanted toward his personal life that he was inventing 372 00:15:12,234 --> 00:15:14,034 Speaker 2: a pastor that you could hold and eat out of 373 00:15:14,074 --> 00:15:16,434 Speaker 2: your hand, because he thought that pastor should be a 374 00:15:16,474 --> 00:15:18,354 Speaker 2: to go fu like a piece of pizza should pick 375 00:15:18,354 --> 00:15:20,194 Speaker 2: it up. And during the interview he was trying to 376 00:15:20,194 --> 00:15:23,274 Speaker 2: make his pastor invention and the microwave exploded, and I 377 00:15:23,314 --> 00:15:25,274 Speaker 2: do think to this day he rigged it because after that, 378 00:15:25,394 --> 00:15:28,034 Speaker 2: no one's talking about anything about him, and all he's 379 00:15:28,034 --> 00:15:29,954 Speaker 2: been asked to comment on is the exploding micro arecer. 380 00:15:29,954 --> 00:15:32,394 Speaker 3: But he was so famously negative and hated doing press 381 00:15:32,474 --> 00:15:35,394 Speaker 3: during those Twilight years, and he was just really hated 382 00:15:35,434 --> 00:15:38,594 Speaker 3: all the attention and being this like vampire and it 383 00:15:38,634 --> 00:15:41,074 Speaker 3: was such a moment in time and then he kind 384 00:15:41,074 --> 00:15:43,234 Speaker 3: of dropped off a little bit. But now he seems 385 00:15:43,274 --> 00:15:47,074 Speaker 3: to have found a solution and a formula for how 386 00:15:47,114 --> 00:15:48,754 Speaker 3: he needs to behave in interviews. 387 00:15:48,954 --> 00:15:51,194 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And I also think that Jennifer had that 388 00:15:51,234 --> 00:15:53,234 Speaker 2: story ready to go because even though they're both in 389 00:15:53,274 --> 00:15:55,874 Speaker 2: long term relationships with kids, when they first walked at 390 00:15:55,914 --> 00:15:58,874 Speaker 2: Red Carpet together, a lot of people thought that they 391 00:15:58,874 --> 00:16:01,514 Speaker 2: were potentially like they had the potential to fall in 392 00:16:01,554 --> 00:16:03,194 Speaker 2: love or they could be a scandal. And so I 393 00:16:03,194 --> 00:16:05,634 Speaker 2: think also we're telling this story that she's kind of 394 00:16:05,674 --> 00:16:08,234 Speaker 2: squashed it very quickly by sort of being like, he's 395 00:16:08,234 --> 00:16:10,154 Speaker 2: a gal pal, he comes over, he eats out of 396 00:16:10,154 --> 00:16:12,514 Speaker 2: the trash, you know, he's just one of the gals. 397 00:16:12,594 --> 00:16:15,314 Speaker 2: And now everyone's talking about that. And also I think 398 00:16:15,354 --> 00:16:18,234 Speaker 2: with the way that movie promotion is at the moment, 399 00:16:18,634 --> 00:16:19,914 Speaker 2: I know we used to talk a lot about the 400 00:16:19,954 --> 00:16:23,114 Speaker 2: fact that movie stars didn't need press anymore because now 401 00:16:23,114 --> 00:16:26,194 Speaker 2: they have their huge followings. But the interesting thing is, 402 00:16:26,194 --> 00:16:28,994 Speaker 2: like neither Jennifer Lawrence or Robert Pattinson really have a 403 00:16:29,034 --> 00:16:32,074 Speaker 2: social presence even though they're super super famous, And it's 404 00:16:32,074 --> 00:16:34,874 Speaker 2: harder than ever to get people to watch movies, especially 405 00:16:34,874 --> 00:16:38,554 Speaker 2: more like original movies like this. So now press tours 406 00:16:38,594 --> 00:16:41,794 Speaker 2: are more important than ever before. But it's viral moments, 407 00:16:41,874 --> 00:16:44,234 Speaker 2: not talking about the movie. So like the rubbish story 408 00:16:44,234 --> 00:16:46,994 Speaker 2: doesn't really lead into a story about postpartum depression. But 409 00:16:47,034 --> 00:16:48,394 Speaker 2: I'm sure people are going to go see it now 410 00:16:48,434 --> 00:16:50,194 Speaker 2: because they're gonna have these moments in their head. 411 00:16:50,274 --> 00:16:52,754 Speaker 3: But we've seen this with interviews. Now the prs want 412 00:16:52,794 --> 00:16:54,594 Speaker 3: us to play games now. And I know in these 413 00:16:54,634 --> 00:16:58,194 Speaker 3: big talk shows like Jimmy Fallon and Graham Norton, we've 414 00:16:58,274 --> 00:17:01,874 Speaker 3: got producers asking, you know, the talent, okay, give us 415 00:17:01,874 --> 00:17:03,594 Speaker 3: something like what is a story that we can tell? 416 00:17:03,634 --> 00:17:06,434 Speaker 3: What can we prompt you to do? They're prepackaging it 417 00:17:06,513 --> 00:17:09,474 Speaker 3: and make it. But that's it makes it interesting and fun. 418 00:17:09,513 --> 00:17:09,874 Speaker 1: I think. 419 00:17:09,994 --> 00:17:11,994 Speaker 2: Yeah, like even a Taylor Swifter is going on talk 420 00:17:12,034 --> 00:17:14,154 Speaker 2: shows and having to like come up these funny stories 421 00:17:14,194 --> 00:17:17,394 Speaker 2: about like baking bread and Travis not knowing who greta 422 00:17:17,434 --> 00:17:19,474 Speaker 2: girlwig is. So it's just the game. But I also 423 00:17:19,474 --> 00:17:21,354 Speaker 2: think what's funny is that we're just at the very 424 00:17:21,394 --> 00:17:23,314 Speaker 2: start of this press two and now with Jennifer Lawrence 425 00:17:23,314 --> 00:17:25,794 Speaker 2: from Pattinson. So this is just the beginning, and I 426 00:17:25,834 --> 00:17:28,033 Speaker 2: think we'll have many more of these like crazy viral 427 00:17:28,114 --> 00:17:30,354 Speaker 2: stories and I can't wait to see how far they 428 00:17:30,354 --> 00:17:32,554 Speaker 2: take it, like how do you top and exploding microwave? 429 00:17:32,754 --> 00:17:34,674 Speaker 4: Nana Na Na. 430 00:17:34,754 --> 00:17:37,754 Speaker 3: So, Kristin Bell has put up an anniversary post for 431 00:17:37,834 --> 00:17:40,994 Speaker 3: her husband, Dax Shepherd, and people are very upset about it. 432 00:17:40,994 --> 00:17:44,154 Speaker 3: It kind of looked a little bit innocent on first glance. 433 00:17:44,194 --> 00:17:47,394 Speaker 3: It's just a photo of you know, Kristen Bell straddling Dax. 434 00:17:47,794 --> 00:17:49,714 Speaker 3: But it's not the photo that's the problem. It was 435 00:17:49,754 --> 00:17:53,834 Speaker 3: the caption. So the post says, happy twelfth anniversary to 436 00:17:53,874 --> 00:17:55,874 Speaker 3: the man who once said to me, I would never 437 00:17:55,954 --> 00:17:57,914 Speaker 3: kill you. A lot of men have killed their wives 438 00:17:57,954 --> 00:18:00,874 Speaker 3: at a certain point, even though I'm heavily incentivized to 439 00:18:00,954 --> 00:18:03,634 Speaker 3: kill you, I never would. And this is what made 440 00:18:03,634 --> 00:18:08,313 Speaker 3: people extremely upset. And people have been reacting to this 441 00:18:08,434 --> 00:18:11,034 Speaker 3: and just talking about how it's a little bit inappropriate. 442 00:18:11,474 --> 00:18:14,754 Speaker 3: But I think this is a very unexpected response for 443 00:18:14,874 --> 00:18:18,594 Speaker 3: Kristen and Dax, because they have been this golden couple. 444 00:18:19,154 --> 00:18:23,513 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have built like a huge following around their marriage, which, 445 00:18:23,754 --> 00:18:26,594 Speaker 2: to their credit, they've always tried to dissolve a little 446 00:18:26,594 --> 00:18:29,794 Speaker 2: bit by saying that marriage for us is like work 447 00:18:29,914 --> 00:18:32,394 Speaker 2: every day. It's been really difficult. We've been together for 448 00:18:32,554 --> 00:18:35,474 Speaker 2: over a decade now. Don't believe all the cutesy edits 449 00:18:35,514 --> 00:18:38,434 Speaker 2: you see. But also, they're so good in public together. 450 00:18:38,474 --> 00:18:41,754 Speaker 2: They're so good walking red carpet together. They come across 451 00:18:41,754 --> 00:18:45,074 Speaker 2: so like sweet and loving, they have all their jokes 452 00:18:45,114 --> 00:18:47,354 Speaker 2: ready to go. They're so cute on their socials, and 453 00:18:47,394 --> 00:18:49,154 Speaker 2: they do work a lot together. They start and a 454 00:18:49,154 --> 00:18:51,834 Speaker 2: lot of movies together. They've created movies together, they do 455 00:18:51,914 --> 00:18:54,634 Speaker 2: commercials together, and so they have become this kind of 456 00:18:54,714 --> 00:18:57,834 Speaker 2: couple that people associate with like love and humor. So 457 00:18:57,874 --> 00:19:00,754 Speaker 2: I think seeing that was jarring for two reasons. One 458 00:19:00,874 --> 00:19:03,314 Speaker 2: is just like the words sort of kill and kill, 459 00:19:03,434 --> 00:19:05,273 Speaker 2: you know, all that sort of stuff through there. But 460 00:19:05,594 --> 00:19:07,754 Speaker 2: also I think if you're a little bit outside of 461 00:19:07,994 --> 00:19:10,794 Speaker 2: their little bubble that they live in, it just felt 462 00:19:10,834 --> 00:19:11,513 Speaker 2: really daring. 463 00:19:11,794 --> 00:19:13,074 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. 464 00:19:13,074 --> 00:19:15,194 Speaker 3: It's very different to what we were just talking about before 465 00:19:15,234 --> 00:19:18,874 Speaker 3: with Robert and Jennifer Lawrence. It's the complete opposite, and 466 00:19:19,114 --> 00:19:22,474 Speaker 3: you know, they are super public about their relationship. It 467 00:19:22,554 --> 00:19:26,114 Speaker 3: really reminded me of Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds because 468 00:19:26,114 --> 00:19:27,034 Speaker 3: they were this golden couple. 469 00:19:27,074 --> 00:19:27,914 Speaker 1: They were really public. 470 00:19:28,194 --> 00:19:31,714 Speaker 3: Ryan was always posting these hilarious photos of Blake for 471 00:19:31,834 --> 00:19:34,954 Speaker 3: her birthday and then now people have kind of turned 472 00:19:34,954 --> 00:19:37,634 Speaker 3: on them and that has been the reaction for this 473 00:19:37,714 --> 00:19:42,754 Speaker 3: particular post. The main comment was that October is domestic 474 00:19:42,794 --> 00:19:45,474 Speaker 3: Violence Awareness Month in the US, and I think it 475 00:19:45,514 --> 00:19:47,354 Speaker 3: was particularly jarring for a lot of people in Australia 476 00:19:47,434 --> 00:19:51,314 Speaker 3: because of what we have experienced with women and domestic violence. 477 00:19:51,994 --> 00:19:54,234 Speaker 3: But you're right, it is really interesting because they're in 478 00:19:54,274 --> 00:19:58,314 Speaker 3: this bubble and they probably don't quite have the awareness 479 00:19:58,354 --> 00:20:01,674 Speaker 3: of what's going out on outside of their A lister lives. 480 00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:03,874 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing, is like, because as much 481 00:20:03,914 --> 00:20:05,834 Speaker 2: as I found the caption a little bit jarring, I 482 00:20:05,914 --> 00:20:07,513 Speaker 2: more found a jarring because I know I knew the 483 00:20:07,554 --> 00:20:09,434 Speaker 2: reaction that was coming, which I do think is like 484 00:20:09,594 --> 00:20:12,994 Speaker 2: very justified people being upset by that language, but not 485 00:20:13,114 --> 00:20:14,514 Speaker 2: that I know this couple. I mean, we be really 486 00:20:14,554 --> 00:20:16,634 Speaker 2: parasocial at the moment, but I feel with like Kristen 487 00:20:16,634 --> 00:20:19,354 Speaker 2: Bell and Dak Shepherd, I know more about their relationship 488 00:20:19,394 --> 00:20:21,554 Speaker 2: than I do about like some of my friend's relationships 489 00:20:21,834 --> 00:20:24,954 Speaker 2: because aside from like the red carpet acts that they do, 490 00:20:25,434 --> 00:20:28,593 Speaker 2: they also have been on Dak Shepherd's podcast Armchech Expert 491 00:20:28,674 --> 00:20:31,594 Speaker 2: many many times together. The very first episode of Armchech 492 00:20:31,594 --> 00:20:35,394 Speaker 2: Expert is them essentially having a two hour fight about 493 00:20:35,394 --> 00:20:39,513 Speaker 2: their relationship and essentially having like a marriage counseling session 494 00:20:39,514 --> 00:20:41,194 Speaker 2: that they didn't mean to have. It just started that 495 00:20:41,234 --> 00:20:43,354 Speaker 2: way because when she came into the room, they were 496 00:20:43,394 --> 00:20:45,074 Speaker 2: kind of like he was nervous, and then she was like, 497 00:20:45,074 --> 00:20:46,474 Speaker 2: are you trying to trick me? Then she couldn't get 498 00:20:46,474 --> 00:20:48,474 Speaker 2: her headphones to work. It was a whole thing. And so 499 00:20:48,994 --> 00:20:51,714 Speaker 2: the first time that we really had that insight to them, 500 00:20:51,914 --> 00:20:54,273 Speaker 2: they aired all the difficulties of their marriage, how they 501 00:20:54,274 --> 00:20:56,834 Speaker 2: talk to each other, and they've done many podcast episodes 502 00:20:56,874 --> 00:20:59,714 Speaker 2: together since then, where we know that the start of 503 00:20:59,714 --> 00:21:02,714 Speaker 2: their relationship they used to fight a lot. It was 504 00:21:02,834 --> 00:21:05,833 Speaker 2: very fiery because she was a very jealous person and 505 00:21:05,874 --> 00:21:08,073 Speaker 2: he didn't feel like he wanted to be controlled by her, 506 00:21:08,154 --> 00:21:09,914 Speaker 2: and he's like, you're not the person I pitched it 507 00:21:09,914 --> 00:21:11,394 Speaker 2: ever being with, I don't know how this is going 508 00:21:11,474 --> 00:21:14,354 Speaker 2: to work. And they talk about like all the fights 509 00:21:14,474 --> 00:21:16,434 Speaker 2: they've had over the years, and also like the way 510 00:21:16,474 --> 00:21:18,833 Speaker 2: they talk to each other, and it is kind of 511 00:21:18,874 --> 00:21:22,154 Speaker 2: like that caps on her Instagram post I think encapsulated 512 00:21:22,434 --> 00:21:25,274 Speaker 2: how this long term couple talks to each other and 513 00:21:25,314 --> 00:21:27,313 Speaker 2: how their circle of friends because they always have their 514 00:21:27,314 --> 00:21:30,634 Speaker 2: circle of friends on this podcast as well and weighing 515 00:21:30,674 --> 00:21:33,634 Speaker 2: in and so if you're in that world, it seemed 516 00:21:33,754 --> 00:21:35,914 Speaker 2: very weirdly romantic, because you're like, this is a couple 517 00:21:35,914 --> 00:21:38,234 Speaker 2: that's been through so much and they've developed their own 518 00:21:38,314 --> 00:21:40,714 Speaker 2: language and their own style of humor that we get 519 00:21:40,754 --> 00:21:43,033 Speaker 2: to look at sometimes. So if you look at it 520 00:21:43,074 --> 00:21:45,714 Speaker 2: through that lens, it's quite romantic. But if you look 521 00:21:45,714 --> 00:21:48,434 Speaker 2: at it through the lens of like in Australia, intimate 522 00:21:48,474 --> 00:21:51,274 Speaker 2: partner violence is very much on the rise. The data 523 00:21:51,274 --> 00:21:53,114 Speaker 2: from like twenty twenty three twenty twenty four is like 524 00:21:53,154 --> 00:21:56,154 Speaker 2: one woman killed every eight days from intimate partner violence. 525 00:21:56,674 --> 00:21:59,074 Speaker 2: The studies from twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four 526 00:21:59,114 --> 00:22:02,354 Speaker 2: show that intimate partner violence in Australia and homicide. The 527 00:22:02,474 --> 00:22:05,114 Speaker 2: rate is rapidly increasing, and we know it's a huge 528 00:22:05,114 --> 00:22:06,794 Speaker 2: issue here and people feel like it's not getting enough 529 00:22:06,794 --> 00:22:08,994 Speaker 2: to earth tension. So if you look at it through 530 00:22:09,034 --> 00:22:10,434 Speaker 2: that lens, it's very disturbing. 531 00:22:10,594 --> 00:22:10,754 Speaker 4: Yeah. 532 00:22:10,834 --> 00:22:13,073 Speaker 3: I mean we also had you know, Jill Maher was 533 00:22:13,714 --> 00:22:16,474 Speaker 3: murdered thirteen years ago last month, so that is also 534 00:22:16,714 --> 00:22:19,313 Speaker 3: pretty fresh in people's mind. You know, that was a 535 00:22:19,354 --> 00:22:23,033 Speaker 3: really big case in Melbourne and really affected Australian So 536 00:22:23,274 --> 00:22:26,273 Speaker 3: I definitely understand that. But I do also think that 537 00:22:26,354 --> 00:22:29,714 Speaker 3: parasocial relationship that you're talking about with them, I think 538 00:22:29,714 --> 00:22:34,114 Speaker 3: that's really normal because they do reveal so much. They 539 00:22:34,234 --> 00:22:38,194 Speaker 3: kind of should expect to appoint for people to feel 540 00:22:38,274 --> 00:22:40,474 Speaker 3: that close with them, do you know what I mean? 541 00:22:40,834 --> 00:22:42,954 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the thing is when like the 542 00:22:42,994 --> 00:22:45,474 Speaker 2: difference between like a podcast audience and a social audience 543 00:22:45,554 --> 00:22:48,553 Speaker 2: is like that post from Kristen Bell then went on 544 00:22:48,634 --> 00:22:50,474 Speaker 2: to be shared through all these different news outlets and 545 00:22:50,474 --> 00:22:52,634 Speaker 2: people were reposting it, So you're having people see that 546 00:22:52,674 --> 00:22:56,114 Speaker 2: with any context about their relationship or how they speak 547 00:22:56,234 --> 00:22:58,034 Speaker 2: or anything like that. I know it's a sec I'm 548 00:22:58,034 --> 00:22:59,874 Speaker 2: defending her, I'm kind of not. I just think like 549 00:23:00,074 --> 00:23:03,194 Speaker 2: the context is important there. But I understand being jarred 550 00:23:03,234 --> 00:23:05,794 Speaker 2: again because I didn't think there was anything that Kristen 551 00:23:05,834 --> 00:23:08,914 Speaker 2: Bell and Duck Shepherd could say that would make me 552 00:23:09,034 --> 00:23:10,474 Speaker 2: kind of stop in my tracks, because I feel like 553 00:23:10,474 --> 00:23:13,234 Speaker 2: I've just heard the craziest stuff from them over the years, 554 00:23:13,634 --> 00:23:15,674 Speaker 2: and when I saw that, I think it was just 555 00:23:15,754 --> 00:23:17,634 Speaker 2: so jarring, because I think if one of my friends 556 00:23:17,674 --> 00:23:18,914 Speaker 2: said that, even if I knew they were in a 557 00:23:18,954 --> 00:23:22,194 Speaker 2: loving relationship, I'd still be like, Oh, that's a really 558 00:23:22,314 --> 00:23:23,394 Speaker 2: dark joke to me. 559 00:23:23,474 --> 00:23:26,194 Speaker 3: It's an odd thing to say, for sure. And I 560 00:23:26,274 --> 00:23:28,793 Speaker 3: really like Kristen Bell. I love nobody wants this and 561 00:23:28,874 --> 00:23:31,514 Speaker 3: you know, it's a great show and I really enjoy her. 562 00:23:31,514 --> 00:23:34,154 Speaker 3: But it definitely did give me a bit of a oh. 563 00:23:34,194 --> 00:23:34,994 Speaker 1: I paused. 564 00:23:35,074 --> 00:23:37,794 Speaker 3: And even the photo was a little bit strange, someone 565 00:23:37,794 --> 00:23:39,874 Speaker 3: wrote in the comments. I thought this was him with 566 00:23:39,954 --> 00:23:40,434 Speaker 3: his daughter. 567 00:23:40,714 --> 00:23:43,033 Speaker 2: They've a wild high difference and they're two kids, like 568 00:23:43,074 --> 00:23:45,034 Speaker 2: nearly the same height as her. Now, No, it wasn't 569 00:23:45,034 --> 00:23:46,553 Speaker 2: the photo that upset me or anything like that. The 570 00:23:46,594 --> 00:23:48,234 Speaker 2: other thing is too, is like we keep having these 571 00:23:48,234 --> 00:23:50,834 Speaker 2: conversations around how like people in the public I can't 572 00:23:50,834 --> 00:23:53,794 Speaker 2: say anything, and everything's so policed, and everyone's become this 573 00:23:53,994 --> 00:23:58,273 Speaker 2: very generic celebrity kind of brand because if they do 574 00:23:58,394 --> 00:24:01,154 Speaker 2: post anything that's outside of like a very traditional style 575 00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:03,674 Speaker 2: social media post, then we jump on them. So there's 576 00:24:03,674 --> 00:24:06,514 Speaker 2: that to kind of consider as well. But I don't 577 00:24:06,554 --> 00:24:08,234 Speaker 2: really know what the end to this. I don't want 578 00:24:08,234 --> 00:24:09,914 Speaker 2: how to take the post down or anything. And I 579 00:24:09,914 --> 00:24:11,714 Speaker 2: think also like if she gets asked about in a 580 00:24:11,754 --> 00:24:14,274 Speaker 2: red carpet, you can't really do it in a SoundBite. 581 00:24:14,354 --> 00:24:16,754 Speaker 2: And I think they have recently been taking a lot 582 00:24:16,754 --> 00:24:20,314 Speaker 2: of content out of their podcast because they're so aware 583 00:24:20,314 --> 00:24:22,434 Speaker 2: of how things can blow up. Like recently they did 584 00:24:22,434 --> 00:24:25,474 Speaker 2: another podcast together and they were saying afterwards with their 585 00:24:25,474 --> 00:24:28,313 Speaker 2: producer Wanicapadmin, that they were happy to leave some of 586 00:24:28,354 --> 00:24:30,513 Speaker 2: it in, but they had ended up taking quite a 587 00:24:30,594 --> 00:24:33,474 Speaker 2: bit out because the conversation they were having is would 588 00:24:33,514 --> 00:24:35,674 Speaker 2: you rather your partner cheat on you or would you 589 00:24:35,834 --> 00:24:38,474 Speaker 2: rather your kids drive drunk? And they were both like, 590 00:24:39,034 --> 00:24:41,074 Speaker 2: I would so much rather you cheat on me. And 591 00:24:41,074 --> 00:24:43,074 Speaker 2: they've always said over many years that cheating is not 592 00:24:43,114 --> 00:24:45,033 Speaker 2: a big deal for either of them, And then they 593 00:24:45,074 --> 00:24:46,834 Speaker 2: had to say, but we haven't cheated on each other, 594 00:24:46,874 --> 00:24:49,154 Speaker 2: and we don't have an open relationship, because everyone has 595 00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:51,914 Speaker 2: thought in Hollywood they've had an open relationship. And you 596 00:24:51,914 --> 00:24:54,554 Speaker 2: can see now they're already starting to like edit things 597 00:24:54,554 --> 00:24:56,354 Speaker 2: out because that was like a bit of a long conversation, 598 00:24:56,474 --> 00:24:58,554 Speaker 2: and so I wondered, like, from the conversation that went 599 00:24:58,554 --> 00:25:00,674 Speaker 2: out and they said they cut most of it, how 600 00:25:00,754 --> 00:25:02,754 Speaker 2: much else are they now having to pull back from 601 00:25:02,794 --> 00:25:03,194 Speaker 2: the world. 602 00:25:03,594 --> 00:25:07,234 Speaker 3: I think for me, it would be her acknowledging that 603 00:25:07,274 --> 00:25:09,914 Speaker 3: this is something that has affected people and that it 604 00:25:09,994 --> 00:25:13,154 Speaker 3: has triggered people, and maybe it wasn't the right time 605 00:25:13,234 --> 00:25:15,674 Speaker 3: for her to post this, particularly given that it was October. 606 00:25:16,354 --> 00:25:19,354 Speaker 1: I think if she acknowledges that and appreciates. 607 00:25:18,794 --> 00:25:22,714 Speaker 3: That people feel triggered by it, that is probably the 608 00:25:22,754 --> 00:25:25,674 Speaker 3: best course of action. Yeah, because I'm sure it wasn't intentional. 609 00:25:25,714 --> 00:25:27,674 Speaker 3: You can kind of see that it's it's her being 610 00:25:28,034 --> 00:25:29,674 Speaker 3: trying to be funny. She's trying to be funny with 611 00:25:29,674 --> 00:25:32,914 Speaker 3: her husband, but acknowledging when you're a public figure like that, 612 00:25:33,434 --> 00:25:36,793 Speaker 3: you have to be able to take responsibility for what 613 00:25:36,834 --> 00:25:37,514 Speaker 3: you're putting out. 614 00:25:37,914 --> 00:25:40,074 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's just a little showcase of what 615 00:25:40,114 --> 00:25:42,594 Speaker 2: happens when you are in your own celebrity, not even celebrity, 616 00:25:42,634 --> 00:25:45,674 Speaker 2: you're in celebrity and friendship bubble. I feel like potentially 617 00:25:45,714 --> 00:25:48,114 Speaker 2: she might address it. She's not usually the type of 618 00:25:48,114 --> 00:25:50,794 Speaker 2: person to sort of post like a big explain or 619 00:25:50,794 --> 00:25:53,074 Speaker 2: anything like that. I wonder if it will happen in 620 00:25:53,154 --> 00:25:55,754 Speaker 2: a few weeks when she's somehow, like on a podcast 621 00:25:55,794 --> 00:25:58,594 Speaker 2: with like her best friend Monica, or with Dak's her husband, 622 00:25:58,794 --> 00:26:01,594 Speaker 2: or in that kind of context where she can sort 623 00:26:01,594 --> 00:26:04,033 Speaker 2: of have a longer form conversation around it. 624 00:26:04,234 --> 00:26:07,074 Speaker 3: Control as well, Yeah, it environment that they can control. 625 00:26:07,434 --> 00:26:09,394 Speaker 3: I would suspect that that's what they would do. 626 00:26:09,634 --> 00:26:11,914 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's difficult also too, because she's doing that 627 00:26:11,954 --> 00:26:14,594 Speaker 2: nobody wants. This season two press rounds at the moment, 628 00:26:14,634 --> 00:26:16,073 Speaker 2: which means that she's going to be asked. 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