1 00:00:11,229 --> 00:00:15,389 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mom and Maya 2 00:00:15,429 --> 00:00:18,709 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this 3 00:00:18,749 --> 00:00:23,349 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on. Hello, Canceled listeners, You most definitely 4 00:00:23,589 --> 00:00:27,029 Speaker 1: have noticed that Wicked is now in cinemas. We love 5 00:00:27,069 --> 00:00:30,469 Speaker 1: a musical here because the thing about lazy girls, we're 6 00:00:30,509 --> 00:00:33,709 Speaker 1: not talented, but we really appreciate talent, and I love 7 00:00:33,749 --> 00:00:36,109 Speaker 1: have you seen all the things about how they sung live? 8 00:00:36,469 --> 00:00:38,549 Speaker 1: Oh God, I love knowing that they sung on set 9 00:00:38,589 --> 00:00:43,749 Speaker 1: because they're also supremely talented. Wicked of course stars Cynthia Arrivo, 10 00:00:44,109 --> 00:00:48,549 Speaker 1: Jonathan Bailey, Jeff Goldbloom, Marissa Body, Ethan Slater, and of 11 00:00:48,589 --> 00:00:54,309 Speaker 1: course Ariana Grande. Ariana got one that's like, not how 12 00:00:54,309 --> 00:00:58,109 Speaker 1: you pronounce that? We've never made that joke before, but 13 00:00:58,189 --> 00:01:01,829 Speaker 1: we wanted to reshare our cancel episode on Ariana from 14 00:01:01,829 --> 00:01:05,949 Speaker 1: a little while ago. It's just incredibly relevant right now 15 00:01:06,109 --> 00:01:18,149 Speaker 1: here it is, Hello, and welcome to Canceled, the podcast 16 00:01:18,189 --> 00:01:20,989 Speaker 1: that looks at silly celebrity crimes and as science charges 17 00:01:21,029 --> 00:01:23,269 Speaker 1: and sentences to them so we can all move on 18 00:01:23,389 --> 00:01:27,709 Speaker 1: with our lives. Jesse. That's not our official tagline, but 19 00:01:27,789 --> 00:01:30,349 Speaker 1: it's become our official tagline because I just copy and 20 00:01:30,349 --> 00:01:33,589 Speaker 1: paste it in every week. Yeah, should we write a 21 00:01:33,629 --> 00:01:36,789 Speaker 1: different one every week or something? Yeah, maybe we can 22 00:01:36,829 --> 00:01:38,749 Speaker 1: make it better if it just is officially going to 23 00:01:38,749 --> 00:01:41,749 Speaker 1: be the tagline. My name's Claire Stephens and I'm joined 24 00:01:41,749 --> 00:01:45,429 Speaker 1: by Jesse Stevens, and we're in different places today, which 25 00:01:45,509 --> 00:01:48,829 Speaker 1: very rarely happens. Happens in case of emergency. I am 26 00:01:48,909 --> 00:01:51,829 Speaker 1: in the office, Claire, where are you? I'm at home 27 00:01:52,749 --> 00:02:00,909 Speaker 1: with my friend COVID. Okay, you and I still can't 28 00:02:00,949 --> 00:02:03,429 Speaker 1: say COVID. We have to say COVID because that is 29 00:02:03,509 --> 00:02:06,989 Speaker 1: how normalans wants it. In Coronacast, we're hit by another 30 00:02:07,149 --> 00:02:11,469 Speaker 1: surge of COVID nineteen so many years with his Scottish accent. 31 00:02:11,869 --> 00:02:14,029 Speaker 1: You've been struck down by the COVID for I don't 32 00:02:14,029 --> 00:02:17,149 Speaker 1: know the eighth time or something like are you doing okay? 33 00:02:17,309 --> 00:02:19,189 Speaker 1: No one cares. That's not what they're here for. They're 34 00:02:19,229 --> 00:02:22,389 Speaker 1: here for celebrity gossip. When I told our producer she 35 00:02:22,549 --> 00:02:24,709 Speaker 1: had a great point. She said, your immune system is 36 00:02:24,749 --> 00:02:27,029 Speaker 1: a lazy gill And I thought, you know what, The 37 00:02:27,069 --> 00:02:30,149 Speaker 1: immune system is a lazy gil. She's a lazy girl. 38 00:02:30,629 --> 00:02:34,549 Speaker 1: I never wanted to say it. But dear guys, you're lazy. Hey, yes, 39 00:02:34,909 --> 00:02:39,189 Speaker 1: but she's not. Celebrity. Gossip waits for no one, and 40 00:02:39,229 --> 00:02:41,789 Speaker 1: that is why the show must go on. Correct, Claire, 41 00:02:41,829 --> 00:02:44,469 Speaker 1: Who are we doing today? On today's episode, we're talking 42 00:02:44,549 --> 00:02:49,549 Speaker 1: about Ariana Grande. Please welcome Ariana Grande. Hi, Lauren, It's 43 00:02:49,589 --> 00:02:52,669 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande and today I'm going to be breaking down. 44 00:02:52,709 --> 00:03:00,109 Speaker 1: Do you have it up for Ariana Grande? Ariana Grande 45 00:03:00,349 --> 00:03:03,989 Speaker 1: but Terra is a singer, songwriter, and actress known for 46 00:03:04,069 --> 00:03:08,309 Speaker 1: such bangers as Dangerous Woman, Positions, No Tears Left to Cry, 47 00:03:08,629 --> 00:03:11,589 Speaker 1: Thank You Next, and her color oboration with Lady Gaga 48 00:03:11,829 --> 00:03:21,869 Speaker 1: rain on Me. According to the Internet, Ariana Grande is 49 00:03:21,909 --> 00:03:25,989 Speaker 1: the most streamed female artist, and Jesse, Here's the thing 50 00:03:26,069 --> 00:03:31,669 Speaker 1: about facts, I don't always believe them. Are you seriously 51 00:03:31,789 --> 00:03:35,909 Speaker 1: telling me that Ariana Grande has been streamed more times 52 00:03:35,949 --> 00:03:40,389 Speaker 1: than Taylor Swift, then Miley Cyrus, than Madonna every time 53 00:03:40,469 --> 00:03:42,549 Speaker 1: a song comes out, it is the most streamed song 54 00:03:42,589 --> 00:03:44,829 Speaker 1: of all time. And I've had it, I've had it. 55 00:03:45,069 --> 00:03:48,389 Speaker 1: I heard it about Sam Smith. Sam Smith most streamed downloaded. 56 00:03:48,389 --> 00:03:51,349 Speaker 1: But I'm a researcher, so I checked. And what is 57 00:03:51,429 --> 00:03:54,869 Speaker 1: confusing is that by streamed they don't just mean Spotify. 58 00:03:54,989 --> 00:03:57,549 Speaker 1: I guess it's like Apple too, But Taylor Swift is 59 00:03:57,549 --> 00:04:00,789 Speaker 1: the most streamed artist on Spotify. So that's a lesson 60 00:04:00,829 --> 00:04:05,509 Speaker 1: for the children. Always check, don't trust with you, okay. 61 00:04:05,909 --> 00:04:09,069 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande has had some songs that'd have been listened 62 00:04:09,069 --> 00:04:13,189 Speaker 1: to lot, some may say. Speaking of facts, a fun 63 00:04:13,229 --> 00:04:16,709 Speaker 1: fact about Ariana Grinde is that whenever we do stories 64 00:04:16,709 --> 00:04:20,549 Speaker 1: about her on the website, people don't click do they? 65 00:04:20,629 --> 00:04:26,109 Speaker 1: Just like Selena Gomez. There are particular stories on our 66 00:04:26,149 --> 00:04:28,749 Speaker 1: site where people start and they go, oh, should we 67 00:04:28,789 --> 00:04:31,469 Speaker 1: do a story about Ariana Grande's breakup? When we go, oh, 68 00:04:31,469 --> 00:04:33,349 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, you've only been here a week. What 69 00:04:33,509 --> 00:04:36,109 Speaker 1: you don't appear to know is that our audience doesn't 70 00:04:36,109 --> 00:04:41,149 Speaker 1: care about Ariana Grande. They only care about Olivia Fraser 71 00:04:41,509 --> 00:04:44,189 Speaker 1: from two seasons ago on Married at First Sight? Do understand? 72 00:04:44,269 --> 00:04:46,349 Speaker 1: And they're like, that's so sad, and we're like, it 73 00:04:46,429 --> 00:04:49,589 Speaker 1: may be, but it is also the way the world works. 74 00:04:49,789 --> 00:04:54,869 Speaker 1: We were nervous about doing this episode because we thought, oh, well, 75 00:04:54,909 --> 00:04:56,909 Speaker 1: nobody clicks on it. What's the point of doing a podcast? 76 00:04:56,949 --> 00:04:58,629 Speaker 1: You know what it's like It's like the time that 77 00:04:58,669 --> 00:05:00,829 Speaker 1: we did Brooklyn Beckham and Claire. You said that you 78 00:05:00,909 --> 00:05:03,429 Speaker 1: sec to a magazine Ed I said, he's sunk magazines 79 00:05:03,509 --> 00:05:04,989 Speaker 1: because he can't put him on the cover because no 80 00:05:04,989 --> 00:05:07,469 Speaker 1: one will buy it. That is Ariana Grinde. This is 81 00:05:07,509 --> 00:05:11,709 Speaker 1: a canceled episode that will sink canceled exactly. But I 82 00:05:11,789 --> 00:05:15,429 Speaker 1: think our listeners will understand that we don't care about 83 00:05:15,429 --> 00:05:19,869 Speaker 1: Ariana's breakup. We do care about Ariana Grande licking donut. Yes. 84 00:05:20,109 --> 00:05:23,029 Speaker 1: So if you are listening and you're like, I don't 85 00:05:23,069 --> 00:05:27,669 Speaker 1: care about Ariana grand same, yes, same. We're not talking 86 00:05:27,669 --> 00:05:30,469 Speaker 1: about like Pete Davidson, like no one gives a crap, 87 00:05:30,709 --> 00:05:34,829 Speaker 1: We're talking about donut. Before we get started, Jesse, I 88 00:05:34,829 --> 00:05:37,949 Speaker 1: have a theory about Ariana Grande, and I've always thought 89 00:05:37,989 --> 00:05:40,709 Speaker 1: it and I've never been able to articulate it. She 90 00:05:41,229 --> 00:05:48,429 Speaker 1: likes being little. Ah ah, Yes, yes, I've heard this said, 91 00:05:48,789 --> 00:05:53,749 Speaker 1: particularly about tall women. Will say it resentfully about smaller 92 00:05:53,789 --> 00:05:56,469 Speaker 1: women who put on a baby voice, and they're like, 93 00:05:56,509 --> 00:05:59,509 Speaker 1: your obsessed with being small, being small, being short, being little, 94 00:05:59,549 --> 00:06:02,749 Speaker 1: being petite is your entire personality as a short person. 95 00:06:02,789 --> 00:06:04,709 Speaker 1: I used to get defensive. Now I acknowledge. It is 96 00:06:04,749 --> 00:06:08,109 Speaker 1: absolutely a thing, and it is annoy because so one 97 00:06:08,109 --> 00:06:10,989 Speaker 1: of our favorite podcasts is called Center to Garbage, and 98 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:13,309 Speaker 1: they did a series called Sentimental in the City and 99 00:06:13,349 --> 00:06:17,349 Speaker 1: they said this about Carrie Bradshaw, that she was obsessed 100 00:06:17,549 --> 00:06:20,869 Speaker 1: classic small girl syndrome. She loved being in heels. 101 00:06:20,989 --> 00:06:23,829 Speaker 2: The heels are almost high enough to put me face 102 00:06:23,869 --> 00:06:24,189 Speaker 2: to face? 103 00:06:24,309 --> 00:06:27,949 Speaker 1: Was Natasha If Natasha wears flat like the fact that 104 00:06:27,989 --> 00:06:31,789 Speaker 1: big was called big, like she just liked to be tiny. Yes, 105 00:06:31,829 --> 00:06:35,989 Speaker 1: And Ariana Grande has the same energy, like she is like, 106 00:06:36,309 --> 00:06:39,109 Speaker 1: I'm so small and look at my big shoes. 107 00:06:39,189 --> 00:06:40,829 Speaker 2: I'm just a baby. 108 00:06:41,109 --> 00:06:47,309 Speaker 1: I'm just a baby. Why won't you won't wear Ponydale? Yeah, 109 00:06:47,389 --> 00:06:50,109 Speaker 1: exactly because I'm just in primary school. Like she does 110 00:06:50,189 --> 00:06:51,909 Speaker 1: kind of have that vibe and she's always kind of 111 00:06:51,909 --> 00:06:54,429 Speaker 1: looking up at people and she's wide eyed and she 112 00:06:54,469 --> 00:06:58,149 Speaker 1: always looks thirteen, which is a little bit sexual, I suppose. 113 00:06:58,509 --> 00:07:01,149 Speaker 1: But yes, this is absolutely a thing. So that's just 114 00:07:01,189 --> 00:07:04,189 Speaker 1: an observation I thought i'd introduce into the court room. Yeah, 115 00:07:04,189 --> 00:07:08,269 Speaker 1: for the vibe. But my structure for today is as follows. Firstly, 116 00:07:08,589 --> 00:07:11,869 Speaker 1: Deva Demarth including a rumor from a shoot in Sydney, 117 00:07:12,669 --> 00:07:16,389 Speaker 1: the donut looking incident, an awkward conversation about race, and 118 00:07:16,469 --> 00:07:22,869 Speaker 1: a word on annunciation. Let's begin, Jesse, you've probably heard 119 00:07:22,949 --> 00:07:26,229 Speaker 1: about the recent memoir I'm Glad My Mom Died by 120 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:29,709 Speaker 1: Jeanette McCurdy. Yeah, apparently it's great. Yes, I've heard great 121 00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:35,789 Speaker 1: things about it. I did know that Jeanette McCurdy starred 122 00:07:36,029 --> 00:07:40,189 Speaker 1: opposite Ariana Grande in these shows on Nickelodeon, like I 123 00:07:40,389 --> 00:07:45,029 Speaker 1: Carlee and Sam and Kat. Now, she was obviously really 124 00:07:45,069 --> 00:07:48,749 Speaker 1: close to Ariana just as her career was exploding, and 125 00:07:48,789 --> 00:07:51,229 Speaker 1: she writes in her book that when they were twenty one, 126 00:07:51,629 --> 00:07:54,869 Speaker 1: they're on I Carlee and McCurdy wants to do feature 127 00:07:54,869 --> 00:07:57,469 Speaker 1: films and she keeps going to the execs. I mean like, hey, 128 00:07:57,509 --> 00:07:59,589 Speaker 1: I've had this offer to do a feature film and 129 00:07:59,589 --> 00:08:02,869 Speaker 1: they're like, well, you can't because you're doing this shitty show. 130 00:08:02,869 --> 00:08:05,749 Speaker 1: You don't want to be here. She's like fine, so 131 00:08:05,789 --> 00:08:09,589 Speaker 1: she can't leave. Yeah, and then she said she absolutely 132 00:08:09,629 --> 00:08:11,789 Speaker 1: lost it. And the point where she just couldn't like 133 00:08:11,989 --> 00:08:16,989 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande anymore was when Arianna was going to the 134 00:08:16,989 --> 00:08:20,189 Speaker 1: Billboard Music Awards during filming, so she was not gonna 135 00:08:20,189 --> 00:08:22,989 Speaker 1: be there for an entire week of shooting, and it 136 00:08:23,029 --> 00:08:27,549 Speaker 1: had been decided that in Ariana's absence, they were going 137 00:08:27,629 --> 00:08:30,829 Speaker 1: to have her character locked in a box for the 138 00:08:30,949 --> 00:08:33,189 Speaker 1: entire episode. That Ariana Grande would be locked in a box. 139 00:08:33,269 --> 00:08:36,309 Speaker 1: Thank you, miss Valentine. How if you please step inside 140 00:08:36,309 --> 00:08:40,389 Speaker 1: the box? Okay, care on me, Okay in there. Yeah, 141 00:08:40,429 --> 00:08:45,149 Speaker 1: it's kind of cozy. Narratively, that is flawed, but I 142 00:08:45,189 --> 00:08:48,469 Speaker 1: respect it. It's just flawed. And so Jeanette McCurdy was like, 143 00:08:48,829 --> 00:08:52,629 Speaker 1: not only does Ariana Grande get to go to these 144 00:08:52,669 --> 00:08:55,429 Speaker 1: awards and sing and meet all the celebrities, but I 145 00:08:55,549 --> 00:08:59,509 Speaker 1: now have to act opposite a box. Okay, a few 146 00:08:59,549 --> 00:09:01,909 Speaker 1: things here. I can see her going, well, why can't 147 00:09:01,909 --> 00:09:03,629 Speaker 1: I be in a box? If we're just putting people 148 00:09:03,669 --> 00:09:05,269 Speaker 1: in boxes, if they have elsewhere to be, I can 149 00:09:05,309 --> 00:09:07,389 Speaker 1: be in a box. But the thing that she's forgetting 150 00:09:07,549 --> 00:09:10,749 Speaker 1: is that Ariana is a little and being in a 151 00:09:10,789 --> 00:09:14,109 Speaker 1: box is a very little person thing to do. Like, 152 00:09:14,189 --> 00:09:17,589 Speaker 1: no tall woman is climbing into a box because she's 153 00:09:17,669 --> 00:09:20,749 Speaker 1: like this is infantilizing, But Ariana Grande is like, give 154 00:09:20,789 --> 00:09:24,069 Speaker 1: me a match box, I will curl up. Do you 155 00:09:24,109 --> 00:09:26,869 Speaker 1: know how little people are obsessed with like being able 156 00:09:26,909 --> 00:09:30,429 Speaker 1: to fit into like a draw yeah, or a suitcase 157 00:09:30,549 --> 00:09:33,549 Speaker 1: or something, and they're like, look, it's like, I can't 158 00:09:33,589 --> 00:09:39,669 Speaker 1: explain why this is annoying. Could stop being so small? 159 00:09:39,869 --> 00:09:42,669 Speaker 1: You just know that Arianna was like, well, Jeanette, like 160 00:09:42,789 --> 00:09:46,669 Speaker 1: you couldn't fit in the box. So that's just like 161 00:09:46,669 --> 00:09:49,869 Speaker 1: why it wouldn't work. But I do think this is 162 00:09:50,549 --> 00:09:55,389 Speaker 1: a two types of people thing because while Arianna, yes, 163 00:09:56,509 --> 00:09:59,109 Speaker 1: her career was exploding, so the execs were more likely 164 00:09:59,189 --> 00:10:01,629 Speaker 1: to say, yeah, you can do the Billboard Music Awards 165 00:10:01,669 --> 00:10:04,029 Speaker 1: will work around you. It also takes a certain person 166 00:10:04,069 --> 00:10:05,669 Speaker 1: to be able to look their friend in the eye 167 00:10:05,709 --> 00:10:09,309 Speaker 1: and be like, I'm going you'll be acting opposite a box. 168 00:10:10,149 --> 00:10:13,989 Speaker 1: And I do think between me and you, you're the Ariana. 169 00:10:14,029 --> 00:10:17,469 Speaker 1: I'm the Janette. And guess what the world rewards Claire, Arianna, 170 00:10:17,549 --> 00:10:20,949 Speaker 1: the woman in the box. It always rewards the woman 171 00:10:20,989 --> 00:10:23,949 Speaker 1: who's like, I'll keep this full time job, thanks and 172 00:10:24,029 --> 00:10:26,429 Speaker 1: get paid for it. I'll be in a box and 173 00:10:26,469 --> 00:10:28,349 Speaker 1: I'll be at the award show. What I need you 174 00:10:28,389 --> 00:10:32,149 Speaker 1: to do is work three times as hard in my absence. Bye, 175 00:10:33,189 --> 00:10:35,909 Speaker 1: that is you. That it was just kind of the 176 00:10:35,949 --> 00:10:38,749 Speaker 1: beginning of the Diva behavior, and that's not necessarily her 177 00:10:38,829 --> 00:10:43,589 Speaker 1: diva behavior. But Ariana Grande will only be photographed from 178 00:10:43,629 --> 00:10:48,789 Speaker 1: her left side, photograph of one side. I need to 179 00:10:49,069 --> 00:10:54,469 Speaker 1: be good looking all the time. And I can recall 180 00:10:54,589 --> 00:10:56,669 Speaker 1: this fact quicker than I could tell you who the 181 00:10:56,709 --> 00:10:58,989 Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Australia. All right, Like I know this 182 00:10:59,269 --> 00:11:01,789 Speaker 1: in my DNA. I also know this in my DNA, 183 00:11:01,949 --> 00:11:05,309 Speaker 1: and I relate so strongly because I think that from 184 00:11:05,309 --> 00:11:09,469 Speaker 1: my left side, I am a five on my wedding date, 185 00:11:09,509 --> 00:11:13,109 Speaker 1: potentially we're trying to get to a six. On my right, 186 00:11:13,749 --> 00:11:16,909 Speaker 1: I am a three. I can't explain it. It's the 187 00:11:16,949 --> 00:11:20,709 Speaker 1: shape of my nose, my chin looks very different, my 188 00:11:20,829 --> 00:11:24,629 Speaker 1: hair sits differently. Right now. We are filming this like 189 00:11:24,709 --> 00:11:27,269 Speaker 1: we do it for, you know, like TikTok, that kind 190 00:11:27,309 --> 00:11:29,429 Speaker 1: of thing yess angling to my left side, and I'm 191 00:11:29,429 --> 00:11:31,469 Speaker 1: not mad about it. When it's a right side day, 192 00:11:31,869 --> 00:11:34,949 Speaker 1: I feel wit for the whole record. So I get it. 193 00:11:35,349 --> 00:11:37,109 Speaker 1: I get it as well. But I think what she 194 00:11:37,469 --> 00:11:42,069 Speaker 1: doesn't acknowledge is that there are advantages and disadvantages to 195 00:11:42,229 --> 00:11:45,589 Speaker 1: the different sides of the face. Like for me, yes, 196 00:11:46,309 --> 00:11:50,589 Speaker 1: my right side, my teeth a straighter, but it's also 197 00:11:50,629 --> 00:11:51,789 Speaker 1: the side of my mole, you. 198 00:11:51,749 --> 00:11:54,629 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, right right. 199 00:11:54,589 --> 00:11:57,669 Speaker 1: So tricky. So I guess it's interesting that she hasn't 200 00:11:57,709 --> 00:12:01,709 Speaker 1: really weighed those things up. But former E News host 201 00:12:01,789 --> 00:12:06,669 Speaker 1: Julianna Ransick claims that in twenty fourteen, Grande pushed her 202 00:12:07,189 --> 00:12:09,549 Speaker 1: to the other side of the camera during an award 203 00:12:09,549 --> 00:12:12,029 Speaker 1: show Into You, so that she could be on the left. 204 00:12:12,349 --> 00:12:15,549 Speaker 1: Ransick thought at that point Grande was too young to 205 00:12:15,589 --> 00:12:18,549 Speaker 1: be acting like that, and she hadn't really earned her 206 00:12:18,629 --> 00:12:21,269 Speaker 1: divastat have we told the story on this podcast of 207 00:12:21,309 --> 00:12:22,709 Speaker 1: the time we're on the front page of the paper 208 00:12:22,749 --> 00:12:25,829 Speaker 1: and what you did to my face? I don't think 209 00:12:25,869 --> 00:12:28,229 Speaker 1: we have. So we were on the front page of 210 00:12:28,269 --> 00:12:31,909 Speaker 1: paper following our HC in two thousand and eight, and 211 00:12:32,469 --> 00:12:34,669 Speaker 1: I don't think I knew my left side was better. 212 00:12:35,189 --> 00:12:37,789 Speaker 1: I didn't know a lot about posing. A few things 213 00:12:37,789 --> 00:12:39,629 Speaker 1: happened that day. The first was that you use the 214 00:12:39,709 --> 00:12:41,909 Speaker 1: last of the shampoo and conditioner. I remember that because 215 00:12:41,949 --> 00:12:43,709 Speaker 1: I will look back and look at my hair and 216 00:12:43,749 --> 00:12:47,269 Speaker 1: it's just you've never seen anything more horrific. The second 217 00:12:47,309 --> 00:12:49,149 Speaker 1: thing is I had nothing to wear, so I borrowed 218 00:12:49,149 --> 00:12:52,509 Speaker 1: my mum's shirt. The sad thing is that. Then in 219 00:12:52,549 --> 00:12:55,669 Speaker 1: the photo it's you and I like twins, do HC 220 00:12:55,749 --> 00:12:58,749 Speaker 1: same story every year? Honestly, it's formula. People love twins. 221 00:12:59,829 --> 00:13:02,429 Speaker 1: But we're on the front and you put your arm 222 00:13:02,589 --> 00:13:06,909 Speaker 1: around my neck and completely covered my neck, making me 223 00:13:07,069 --> 00:13:11,229 Speaker 1: look so ugly I can't eat. To this day, people 224 00:13:11,269 --> 00:13:13,469 Speaker 1: will say, you know, people think you're ugly and they 225 00:13:13,509 --> 00:13:14,669 Speaker 1: don't want to say it when they look at it 226 00:13:14,749 --> 00:13:18,029 Speaker 1: and they go, I can't recognize you in that, and 227 00:13:18,029 --> 00:13:20,269 Speaker 1: that's their kind way of saying, don't worry, you don't 228 00:13:20,309 --> 00:13:22,669 Speaker 1: look like that, And that was your fault. You cut 229 00:13:22,709 --> 00:13:26,069 Speaker 1: off my neck, which I needed in that picture for 230 00:13:26,149 --> 00:13:29,109 Speaker 1: some depth and that kind of thing. So I understand 231 00:13:29,229 --> 00:13:33,309 Speaker 1: Arianna's violent reaction to Juliana Ransick because that's what I 232 00:13:33,309 --> 00:13:37,789 Speaker 1: should have done. We should share that photo to the 233 00:13:37,869 --> 00:13:41,469 Speaker 1: twins thoughts and just just say, is Jesse overreacting? Always 234 00:13:41,509 --> 00:13:44,149 Speaker 1: a really a terrible photo. We should do a poll 235 00:13:44,189 --> 00:13:46,109 Speaker 1: because everyone will go, no, no, no, that is actually 236 00:13:46,109 --> 00:13:48,109 Speaker 1: this single ugliest photo I've seen of you, and it's 237 00:13:48,149 --> 00:13:50,309 Speaker 1: also the only photo that will ever exist of you 238 00:13:50,349 --> 00:14:02,909 Speaker 1: on the front page of a newspaper. Well, you might 239 00:14:02,949 --> 00:14:07,909 Speaker 1: also be able to relate to Ariana Grande's behavior during 240 00:14:07,949 --> 00:14:11,669 Speaker 1: a photo shooting Sydney. It's twenty fourteen, same year. Not 241 00:14:11,749 --> 00:14:14,669 Speaker 1: a good year for Sweetie. She's twenty one and she's 242 00:14:14,709 --> 00:14:17,629 Speaker 1: promoting a new album and she's at the Darling Hotel 243 00:14:17,749 --> 00:14:24,309 Speaker 1: in Sydney and she's being photographed for a Tier one publication. Jesse, Oh, 244 00:14:24,429 --> 00:14:27,429 Speaker 1: the train one? Can you give the listeners some context 245 00:14:27,469 --> 00:14:30,629 Speaker 1: about MX? MX? MX used to be the paper that 246 00:14:30,709 --> 00:14:33,309 Speaker 1: you'd get when you got the train, as we always did, 247 00:14:33,669 --> 00:14:36,069 Speaker 1: the free paper that they handed out. And I had 248 00:14:36,309 --> 00:14:39,509 Speaker 1: he is looking at you my single favorite section, which 249 00:14:39,589 --> 00:14:43,189 Speaker 1: was all about like I keep seeing a girl on 250 00:14:43,229 --> 00:14:46,429 Speaker 1: the train with a blue backpack and blonde hair, and 251 00:14:46,469 --> 00:14:48,509 Speaker 1: I think you're beautiful. And I was like, that's me 252 00:14:48,869 --> 00:14:50,549 Speaker 1: every time I would read it and go, these three 253 00:14:50,589 --> 00:14:52,749 Speaker 1: people are talking about me. It was never about me. 254 00:14:53,589 --> 00:14:57,709 Speaker 1: It was a fantastic paper, Tier one, I would call 255 00:14:57,789 --> 00:15:01,589 Speaker 1: it closer to a Tier eleven paper. It doesn't exist anymore. 256 00:15:01,629 --> 00:15:04,909 Speaker 1: And I am baffled that Ariana Grande was posing for MX. 257 00:15:04,989 --> 00:15:07,989 Speaker 1: It just wasn't really a celebrity newspaper. But anyhow, the 258 00:15:08,029 --> 00:15:10,829 Speaker 1: business model of giving out free papers, I always wondered 259 00:15:10,869 --> 00:15:13,549 Speaker 1: how that was to sustain itself, but in the end 260 00:15:13,549 --> 00:15:17,349 Speaker 1: it didn't work. It didn't work. Apparently there were several 261 00:15:17,389 --> 00:15:20,469 Speaker 1: media outlets there, and Grande's people gave them a list 262 00:15:20,509 --> 00:15:23,309 Speaker 1: of demands ahead of the shoot, including that there'd be 263 00:15:23,389 --> 00:15:27,029 Speaker 1: no natural light. I love that. I love that, and 264 00:15:27,069 --> 00:15:29,669 Speaker 1: that she was only to be photographed from the left side. 265 00:15:30,189 --> 00:15:34,629 Speaker 1: While she was being photographed by MX photographer Chris Published, 266 00:15:35,069 --> 00:15:40,629 Speaker 1: she apparently checked not Chris great photographer, but I'm sure 267 00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:44,629 Speaker 1: grizz is a great podographer. She apparently checked each frame 268 00:15:44,829 --> 00:15:47,109 Speaker 1: after it was taken and asked for them to be 269 00:15:47,229 --> 00:15:50,349 Speaker 1: deleted if she didn't like I should have done this, Honestly, 270 00:15:50,509 --> 00:15:53,749 Speaker 1: I wish I knew my rights. After a few minutes, 271 00:15:54,389 --> 00:15:57,189 Speaker 1: she left because she didn't like how her top looked. 272 00:15:57,389 --> 00:16:00,509 Speaker 1: But she never came back, and she canceled the rest 273 00:16:00,549 --> 00:16:03,269 Speaker 1: of her shoes. I love it, and I get that 274 00:16:03,309 --> 00:16:06,429 Speaker 1: this is inconvenient for media. Everyone's turned up. MX is like, 275 00:16:06,589 --> 00:16:10,109 Speaker 1: we reserved the front page and we are now bankrupt. 276 00:16:11,909 --> 00:16:15,029 Speaker 1: It was the end of their next Remember you'd go 277 00:16:15,109 --> 00:16:17,269 Speaker 1: out for a night on the town in twenty twelve, 278 00:16:17,349 --> 00:16:21,669 Speaker 1: and you'd bring your cannon and take three hundred photos, 279 00:16:21,669 --> 00:16:23,229 Speaker 1: and you get home the next day you're like, I'm 280 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:26,509 Speaker 1: gonna post my album with four hundred and eighty photos 281 00:16:26,509 --> 00:16:28,509 Speaker 1: of one night on my Facebook acount and then you'd 282 00:16:28,509 --> 00:16:30,469 Speaker 1: look at it and you'd go, in hindsight, I look 283 00:16:30,589 --> 00:16:34,509 Speaker 1: like shit, and you would never never poast them. Arianna 284 00:16:34,549 --> 00:16:37,269 Speaker 1: Grande was a woman of her time. She was all 285 00:16:37,309 --> 00:16:41,989 Speaker 1: of us. While on that publicity tour, media were also 286 00:16:42,189 --> 00:16:46,629 Speaker 1: told not to ask her about Mariah Carey or Justin Bieber. 287 00:16:46,829 --> 00:16:48,669 Speaker 1: And just while we touch on that, I do want 288 00:16:48,669 --> 00:16:52,349 Speaker 1: to remind you, so this is twenty fourteen. In twenty sixteen, 289 00:16:53,029 --> 00:16:57,349 Speaker 1: Mariah Carey insisted she did not know who Marianna Grande was. 290 00:16:57,469 --> 00:17:00,429 Speaker 1: Marianna Grande do you know her? Now? Okay, you don't 291 00:17:00,469 --> 00:17:02,549 Speaker 1: know her? So why did Mariana Grande? I hate her? 292 00:17:03,069 --> 00:17:06,949 Speaker 1: Two years before? No, she didn't hate her, She loved her. 293 00:17:07,189 --> 00:17:11,509 Speaker 1: So Mariah Carey was always Ariana Grande's like. Absolute was 294 00:17:11,589 --> 00:17:14,349 Speaker 1: just obsessed with her. But I think maybe at this 295 00:17:14,509 --> 00:17:18,829 Speaker 1: stage she had maybe picked up that Mariah wasn't necessarily 296 00:17:18,869 --> 00:17:22,829 Speaker 1: a fan of her, so didn't want that becoming a headline. 297 00:17:22,949 --> 00:17:23,869 Speaker 2: That's embarrassing. 298 00:17:24,229 --> 00:17:28,909 Speaker 1: Also, in twenty fourteen, there were reports that Ariana was 299 00:17:28,989 --> 00:17:33,989 Speaker 1: demanding to be carried around like a baby following big events, 300 00:17:34,109 --> 00:17:38,029 Speaker 1: photo shoots, and just other experiences generally that made her tie. 301 00:17:39,829 --> 00:17:43,629 Speaker 1: It didn't help that she had shared two photos to 302 00:17:43,669 --> 00:17:47,549 Speaker 1: her Instagram of her being carried, with captions like post 303 00:17:47,589 --> 00:17:51,069 Speaker 1: show ritual, when my feet are broken and long shoot 304 00:17:51,309 --> 00:17:54,109 Speaker 1: day yesterday. Couldn't walk or keep my eyes open by 305 00:17:54,109 --> 00:17:59,029 Speaker 1: the time we finished. Jesse, I have sent you two 306 00:17:59,069 --> 00:18:01,749 Speaker 1: photos of her being carried. Yes, I want you to 307 00:18:01,789 --> 00:18:05,669 Speaker 1: tell me what your vibe is. Firstly, being a baby 308 00:18:05,709 --> 00:18:09,389 Speaker 1: as a vibe. Secondly, I'm opening the pictures right now, 309 00:18:09,589 --> 00:18:12,949 Speaker 1: scroll down, so I've got one picture. It's that how 310 00:18:12,989 --> 00:18:18,109 Speaker 1: we carry a baby ish, it's more like how you'd 311 00:18:18,109 --> 00:18:21,509 Speaker 1: carry a toddler. I suppose. Yeah, I see it. She 312 00:18:21,549 --> 00:18:23,189 Speaker 1: does like to be carried. I don't think it's a 313 00:18:23,189 --> 00:18:25,309 Speaker 1: baby thing. I think it's a I'm a small lady thing. 314 00:18:25,389 --> 00:18:27,269 Speaker 1: Like I think this comes back to I'm a little lady. 315 00:18:27,509 --> 00:18:29,829 Speaker 1: She loves being a little lady with her shoes that 316 00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:32,549 Speaker 1: are too heavy. I would like people treat me like 317 00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:34,909 Speaker 1: a baby in that I would like to be burped 318 00:18:35,429 --> 00:18:37,229 Speaker 1: after I have a stuff drink. But I don't need 319 00:18:37,269 --> 00:18:39,709 Speaker 1: to be carried like a baby. Actually, that's true. Out 320 00:18:39,709 --> 00:18:42,469 Speaker 1: of all the things that I would like to be 321 00:18:42,509 --> 00:18:49,669 Speaker 1: treated like a baby, as doesn't make sense. All the 322 00:18:49,709 --> 00:18:52,309 Speaker 1: ways I'd like to be treated like a baby. I 323 00:18:52,429 --> 00:18:54,829 Speaker 1: want to be put in a pram. Yeah, and I 324 00:18:54,909 --> 00:18:58,069 Speaker 1: want a warm like a cloth over that pram. And 325 00:18:58,149 --> 00:19:01,829 Speaker 1: I want to go to scheduled naptimes scheduled naptimes. And 326 00:19:01,869 --> 00:19:04,549 Speaker 1: I also want to be put to bed and rubbed 327 00:19:05,229 --> 00:19:11,709 Speaker 1: like on my back. Has you heard Ariana Grande's imitation 328 00:19:11,829 --> 00:19:15,309 Speaker 1: of a baby crying? Okay, I have prepared this. You 329 00:19:15,309 --> 00:19:18,789 Speaker 1: know how celebrities will be like I can do a 330 00:19:18,829 --> 00:19:22,589 Speaker 1: really good Australian accent and then like the host will 331 00:19:22,589 --> 00:19:24,509 Speaker 1: be late do it and they're like, OHI Nate, and 332 00:19:24,509 --> 00:19:27,149 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, that shit. But because you are hot 333 00:19:27,189 --> 00:19:30,069 Speaker 1: and rich, no one's ever told you that shit. Not 334 00:19:30,149 --> 00:19:34,029 Speaker 1: the case with Ariana Grande. I'm gonna play you her 335 00:19:34,309 --> 00:19:37,749 Speaker 1: impression of a crying baby. It's one of the most 336 00:19:37,869 --> 00:19:39,989 Speaker 1: confronting things I've ever heard in my life. Here we go, 337 00:19:47,709 --> 00:19:51,429 Speaker 1: what do you think that's terrifying? It's more terrifying when 338 00:19:51,429 --> 00:19:53,269 Speaker 1: you can see the visuals of it coming out of 339 00:19:53,309 --> 00:19:56,229 Speaker 1: a twenty something year old woman with like long hair. 340 00:19:57,749 --> 00:20:02,189 Speaker 1: It I hate it because Okay, my theory with the 341 00:20:02,229 --> 00:20:06,829 Speaker 1: being carried thing is that she becomes famous and she's like, 342 00:20:07,229 --> 00:20:10,029 Speaker 1: what's the go How hard can I push this? 343 00:20:10,669 --> 00:20:10,909 Speaker 2: Yeah? 344 00:20:11,029 --> 00:20:14,549 Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, if I'm this famous, do I still 345 00:20:14,589 --> 00:20:17,749 Speaker 1: have to walk? Yes? Or no? And apparently the answer 346 00:20:17,749 --> 00:20:20,349 Speaker 1: is no, She's a lazy girl. It's no, but it 347 00:20:20,389 --> 00:20:23,949 Speaker 1: won't fly well, and she's like interesting. She had to 348 00:20:23,989 --> 00:20:27,029 Speaker 1: actually put out a statement because she was being criticized 349 00:20:27,109 --> 00:20:30,269 Speaker 1: so heavily for people saying she now refuses to walk, 350 00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:33,269 Speaker 1: and the statement was about how her toes were bleeding 351 00:20:33,269 --> 00:20:36,709 Speaker 1: because she had finished shooting at five am and bra rauh. 352 00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:41,669 Speaker 1: She also acknowledged this rumor when she did carpool Karaoke 353 00:20:41,789 --> 00:20:44,509 Speaker 1: with James Corden in twenty eighteen. But I read the 354 00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:47,469 Speaker 1: thing that you insist on being carried by your security 355 00:20:47,469 --> 00:20:49,189 Speaker 1: guard or something that happened. There was a picture of 356 00:20:49,229 --> 00:20:51,789 Speaker 1: me being carried by my tour manager, right, because I 357 00:20:51,829 --> 00:20:54,309 Speaker 1: had just shot a video and points shoes, right, And 358 00:20:54,349 --> 00:20:56,389 Speaker 1: I posted it because I thought it was cute, sure, 359 00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:59,589 Speaker 1: and like my toes were bleeding and pain. Can I 360 00:20:59,669 --> 00:21:04,269 Speaker 1: just say though, excellent carbold karaoke? Is it? She understood 361 00:21:04,269 --> 00:21:07,829 Speaker 1: the brief. She's just riffing within the whole light. It's 362 00:21:08,069 --> 00:21:15,629 Speaker 1: just lovely. She knew she had to. Does she have 363 00:21:15,669 --> 00:21:20,149 Speaker 1: a good voice? Oh beautiful, it's my carry level. Seriously, 364 00:21:20,189 --> 00:21:23,669 Speaker 1: she has a voice banana Okay, all right, But she 365 00:21:24,469 --> 00:21:28,709 Speaker 1: denies that she has ever demanded to be carried around. 366 00:21:29,429 --> 00:21:33,269 Speaker 1: And then James Corden carries her. They get out of 367 00:21:33,269 --> 00:21:36,629 Speaker 1: the car and he carries her into a Starbucks and 368 00:21:36,949 --> 00:21:39,949 Speaker 1: she's like yelling at everybody, being like, I'm Mariana Grande 369 00:21:40,029 --> 00:21:42,909 Speaker 1: and I demand to be carried. Hello, I'm Mariana Grande. 370 00:21:43,309 --> 00:21:46,229 Speaker 1: I must be carrying. It's pretty funny. And then she 371 00:21:46,309 --> 00:21:50,949 Speaker 1: gets a Grande late. Oh I'm going to get a grind. 372 00:21:52,429 --> 00:21:56,029 Speaker 1: That is funny. But it's a good carpool karaoke. And 373 00:21:56,109 --> 00:21:59,109 Speaker 1: we do love someone who gets the brief. Because Mariah 374 00:21:59,389 --> 00:22:03,429 Speaker 1: didn't get that, you didn't get, know, Jesse. Moving on 375 00:22:03,629 --> 00:22:06,869 Speaker 1: to the donut licking incident, a donu shop owner says 376 00:22:06,909 --> 00:22:11,189 Speaker 1: that pop star Ariana Grande licked and spit the merchandise 377 00:22:11,309 --> 00:22:14,109 Speaker 1: at his shop when his employees weren't looking. I have 378 00:22:14,109 --> 00:22:16,869 Speaker 1: so much to say about this. This is the sort 379 00:22:16,909 --> 00:22:21,109 Speaker 1: of story the cancel courtroom was designed for yes, although 380 00:22:21,949 --> 00:22:26,909 Speaker 1: bordering on criminal continue but not quite. But It's July 381 00:22:27,149 --> 00:22:30,669 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen and Ariana Grande is caught on a security 382 00:22:30,709 --> 00:22:37,069 Speaker 1: camera near California donuts store leaking a donut. TMZ leaked 383 00:22:37,109 --> 00:22:39,589 Speaker 1: the footage, and I just want to know the reaction 384 00:22:39,789 --> 00:22:42,509 Speaker 1: of the person who realized what they'd come across. They're like, 385 00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:48,069 Speaker 1: is that Ariana Grande liking a donut that she has 386 00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:52,709 Speaker 1: not foughtd She also says in the video, what the 387 00:22:52,829 --> 00:22:57,309 Speaker 1: fuck is that? I hate Americans? I hate America. That's disgusting. 388 00:22:57,429 --> 00:23:00,189 Speaker 1: And she's saying all that while looking at donuts, And 389 00:23:00,229 --> 00:23:02,829 Speaker 1: to me, it's like, if you don't want donuts, you 390 00:23:02,829 --> 00:23:05,029 Speaker 1: don't have to be in the donut shop. So that's 391 00:23:05,069 --> 00:23:08,189 Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway. Yeah, with them up to your eye height, 392 00:23:08,389 --> 00:23:11,589 Speaker 1: Like she's she's entering donuts a lot for someone who 393 00:23:11,629 --> 00:23:16,789 Speaker 1: doesn't want a donut, Like, for example, I don't love froyo. 394 00:23:17,709 --> 00:23:20,269 Speaker 1: You won't find me in a froyo shop yelling about 395 00:23:20,309 --> 00:23:22,869 Speaker 1: how I don't like it. I'm just next door getting 396 00:23:22,869 --> 00:23:24,549 Speaker 1: an ice cream, Like, I don't know why you're in 397 00:23:24,589 --> 00:23:27,469 Speaker 1: the donut shop. I kind of enjoy that. In the 398 00:23:27,509 --> 00:23:31,909 Speaker 1: coverage of this it's really the licking the donut that 399 00:23:31,989 --> 00:23:35,029 Speaker 1: people were most offended by, where she was saying like, 400 00:23:35,069 --> 00:23:38,349 Speaker 1: I hate America, I hate Americans, and I feel like 401 00:23:38,389 --> 00:23:41,309 Speaker 1: Americans were like, you can hate us the dome, look 402 00:23:41,309 --> 00:23:46,509 Speaker 1: our donuts. All right. Did you see the statement she 403 00:23:46,629 --> 00:23:52,229 Speaker 1: released following this, I'm furious. Yes, Okay. I want to 404 00:23:52,269 --> 00:23:55,389 Speaker 1: know if you and I picked up on the same sentence. Okay, 405 00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:58,109 Speaker 1: did anything stick out to you about that apology? The 406 00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:59,949 Speaker 1: fact that she had to clarify was her friend who 407 00:24:00,029 --> 00:24:01,909 Speaker 1: was buying the donor No no, no, no no no no, 408 00:24:01,909 --> 00:24:03,749 Speaker 1: no no no. So it was a statement that was 409 00:24:03,749 --> 00:24:05,749 Speaker 1: going blah blah blah, the donut shouldn't have done it, 410 00:24:05,749 --> 00:24:07,669 Speaker 1: shouldn't I said, I hate America, blah blah blah. And 411 00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:09,349 Speaker 1: then she just acknowledged that she wasn't going to be 412 00:24:09,349 --> 00:24:11,789 Speaker 1: at some show. Did you see that bit? Yeah, this 413 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:13,909 Speaker 1: is the quod as for why I cannot be at 414 00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:18,989 Speaker 1: the MLB show. I've had emergency oral surgery and due 415 00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:23,949 Speaker 1: to recovery, I cannot attend the show. If anyone was 416 00:24:24,069 --> 00:24:28,949 Speaker 1: wondering what was wrong with licking a public donut, do 417 00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:32,029 Speaker 1: you have a bacterial or viral infection of the mouth. 418 00:24:32,109 --> 00:24:34,389 Speaker 1: She's like, sorry, guys, so I have an open sore 419 00:24:34,429 --> 00:24:36,069 Speaker 1: on my mouth, so I just have to get surgery. 420 00:24:36,909 --> 00:24:41,229 Speaker 1: Then why are you licking donuts? Because it goes both ways. 421 00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:43,829 Speaker 1: It goes all right, you've got a mouth condition, So 422 00:24:43,869 --> 00:24:46,749 Speaker 1: did you have the mouth condition when you lick the donut? Now, 423 00:24:46,989 --> 00:24:50,349 Speaker 1: by the way, for the record, that donut was sold, 424 00:24:50,669 --> 00:24:54,149 Speaker 1: and one can assume etn yes. So it's like you've 425 00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:57,869 Speaker 1: spread your mouth syphilis to an unsuspecting member of the public, 426 00:24:58,189 --> 00:25:02,429 Speaker 1: which is why we don't lick a donuhut. And I 427 00:25:02,469 --> 00:25:05,109 Speaker 1: love how she's It's like, we don't lick another person's desert. 428 00:25:05,149 --> 00:25:06,669 Speaker 1: And she's like, oh my god, sorry, guys, can't do 429 00:25:06,709 --> 00:25:09,749 Speaker 1: the show. I've got some weird mouth infection xxxx no no, no, 430 00:25:09,749 --> 00:25:12,909 Speaker 1: no related. These two things are related. So just the 431 00:25:12,949 --> 00:25:17,269 Speaker 1: thing about the oral surgery line. The reason you know 432 00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:19,389 Speaker 1: I didn't think of that as the most important thing 433 00:25:19,949 --> 00:25:23,189 Speaker 1: in her apology was because I did immediately dismiss it 434 00:25:23,229 --> 00:25:27,069 Speaker 1: as a lie. So she was meant to perform. Clearly, 435 00:25:27,069 --> 00:25:29,429 Speaker 1: she's having a horrible week. If she goes and performs 436 00:25:29,509 --> 00:25:32,269 Speaker 1: amidst this, people are gonna throw donuts at it, which 437 00:25:32,269 --> 00:25:36,549 Speaker 1: is hilarious. It's hilarious and also an ohn S hazard. 438 00:25:36,629 --> 00:25:39,709 Speaker 1: But the things we could have said, she has a headache, 439 00:25:40,189 --> 00:25:44,909 Speaker 1: she has a head cold, she's hurt her foot, whatever, 440 00:25:45,509 --> 00:25:50,549 Speaker 1: But to go with oral infection is almost like her 441 00:25:50,989 --> 00:25:55,309 Speaker 1: PR person was taking the piss. I reckon her PR 442 00:25:55,429 --> 00:25:58,589 Speaker 1: person was upset on behalf of the donuts. And when 443 00:25:58,669 --> 00:26:01,709 Speaker 1: I'll do my job, I won't do it. Well, no, no, no, 444 00:26:02,189 --> 00:26:05,229 Speaker 1: because donuts have been disrespected here and I know where 445 00:26:05,229 --> 00:26:08,069 Speaker 1: my allegiance lies. I wasn't upset about the America thing. 446 00:26:08,109 --> 00:26:10,629 Speaker 1: I was obviously upset about the spreading of the mouth infection, 447 00:26:11,069 --> 00:26:13,509 Speaker 1: but more than anything, it was the profound lack of 448 00:26:13,509 --> 00:26:17,029 Speaker 1: respect afforded to donuts. Donuts and my dessert and you've 449 00:26:17,069 --> 00:26:19,869 Speaker 1: just gone and licked someone's dessert. What upset me was 450 00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:24,549 Speaker 1: that her apology was so and so she's trying to say, 451 00:26:24,749 --> 00:26:28,309 Speaker 1: I'm an advocate for healthy eating. Oh yeah, a donut shop, 452 00:26:30,229 --> 00:26:33,269 Speaker 1: the donut shops to the rest of us, honestly, And 453 00:26:33,389 --> 00:26:35,789 Speaker 1: she's like, I get upset because like some of the 454 00:26:35,789 --> 00:26:39,709 Speaker 1: things Americans eat and consume, like without giving any thought 455 00:26:39,749 --> 00:26:42,149 Speaker 1: to it. It's like, well, actually we find you were 456 00:26:42,309 --> 00:26:45,909 Speaker 1: liking for one, I give lots and lots of thought 457 00:26:45,989 --> 00:26:48,709 Speaker 1: to Cinema donuts. So yeah, shut up, I believe me 458 00:26:48,909 --> 00:26:50,829 Speaker 1: if I'm buying a cinnamon donut. It's not like a 459 00:26:50,869 --> 00:26:53,749 Speaker 1: spur of I've been picking out of the dates and 460 00:26:53,869 --> 00:26:55,989 Speaker 1: don't like it. Because then what happened to the bakery, 461 00:26:56,069 --> 00:26:59,309 Speaker 1: the donut sellings shop is that they had their food 462 00:26:59,469 --> 00:27:03,989 Speaker 1: rating like it decreased because people were like, well, there 463 00:27:03,989 --> 00:27:06,989 Speaker 1: are hygiene standards and Ariana breached them. And now we 464 00:27:06,989 --> 00:27:10,349 Speaker 1: don't know which donut it was that was licked, could 465 00:27:10,389 --> 00:27:14,829 Speaker 1: be many. We've got a ramp and oral infection through 466 00:27:14,869 --> 00:27:18,109 Speaker 1: your supply and apparently really acted business. The only thing 467 00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:20,629 Speaker 1: I will say is have you noticed when you go 468 00:27:20,629 --> 00:27:24,909 Speaker 1: to cafes, doughnutking, etc. It's very rare that a place 469 00:27:24,949 --> 00:27:28,429 Speaker 1: will have food out on the counter, not in the 470 00:27:28,469 --> 00:27:32,629 Speaker 1: glass case. Yes, that was weird. I mean it was 471 00:27:32,669 --> 00:27:36,229 Speaker 1: a different era, wasn't it. I mean it was twenty fifteen. 472 00:27:36,309 --> 00:27:38,949 Speaker 1: But every now and then I will see like a 473 00:27:39,109 --> 00:27:42,349 Speaker 1: cake tin, like a thing out the front that has 474 00:27:42,469 --> 00:27:45,149 Speaker 1: say a brownie, and I reckon that that's out in 475 00:27:45,149 --> 00:27:46,869 Speaker 1: the open. But I don't think you'd get away with 476 00:27:46,909 --> 00:27:49,869 Speaker 1: a lick without anyone saying anything. I don't, but I 477 00:27:49,949 --> 00:27:52,629 Speaker 1: have to say, if I go to a cafe and 478 00:27:52,669 --> 00:27:56,029 Speaker 1: see that something is out there then and isn't behind glass, 479 00:27:56,229 --> 00:28:00,509 Speaker 1: I think if I buy that, I've accepted the risk 480 00:28:00,669 --> 00:28:04,269 Speaker 1: of a leak, that's actually I think a brilliant point. 481 00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:15,989 Speaker 2: That is a brilliant point, Jesse. 482 00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:22,909 Speaker 1: A word on annunciation. I'm big on diction and annunciation. 483 00:28:23,069 --> 00:28:25,669 Speaker 1: Every time I go to a musical, I comment on 484 00:28:25,709 --> 00:28:27,749 Speaker 1: the diction. I say, she's got a great voice. Don't 485 00:28:27,789 --> 00:28:30,229 Speaker 1: know what she's saying. I need to know the story 486 00:28:31,069 --> 00:28:35,629 Speaker 1: because I'm not getting that. And something about Ariana Grande 487 00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:39,589 Speaker 1: is that she's got a beautiful voice, but it is 488 00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:41,829 Speaker 1: not always clear what she's saying. So, Jesse, we're going 489 00:28:41,869 --> 00:28:44,469 Speaker 1: to play a game, all right. It's called can you 490 00:28:44,589 --> 00:28:50,269 Speaker 1: understand what Ariana is singing? So what's gonna happen is 491 00:28:50,309 --> 00:28:52,749 Speaker 1: that I am going to play and you're gonna tell 492 00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:55,509 Speaker 1: me what she's singing? Okay, all right, I'm really good 493 00:28:55,549 --> 00:29:06,269 Speaker 1: at this good. What word is that? People? It is greedy? 494 00:29:08,589 --> 00:29:12,429 Speaker 1: I'm pasty, but I don't don't mind because I'm honey incorrect. 495 00:29:12,629 --> 00:29:15,349 Speaker 1: It's I'm classy, but I don't mind if it get 496 00:29:15,429 --> 00:29:23,749 Speaker 1: at me. Okay, okay, next one, what's that I need 497 00:29:23,869 --> 00:29:27,949 Speaker 1: a chip and a chill on my back. I ain't 498 00:29:28,029 --> 00:29:32,709 Speaker 1: even tripping. I'm a chill and sit back. Okay is close? Ah? 499 00:29:33,469 --> 00:29:38,909 Speaker 1: That a god? Skin all that you got. I'm going 500 00:29:38,949 --> 00:29:42,549 Speaker 1: to stand on my desk all that you got, skin 501 00:29:42,629 --> 00:29:46,829 Speaker 1: to skin? Oh my god, it's fun now when you 502 00:29:46,949 --> 00:29:54,069 Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, wait, wait one more. Alright, Oh that's easy. 503 00:29:54,309 --> 00:29:57,149 Speaker 1: But if I can't be me, what's the point. But 504 00:29:57,309 --> 00:30:00,509 Speaker 1: if I can't be me, then fix the point. It's 505 00:30:00,589 --> 00:30:04,589 Speaker 1: pretty close. It's pretty close. It's hard when the lyrics 506 00:30:04,629 --> 00:30:08,789 Speaker 1: are bad. My interpretation of her is like her interpretation 507 00:30:08,829 --> 00:30:13,829 Speaker 1: of Japanese just slightly off. Yeah, just slightly off, Like 508 00:30:13,989 --> 00:30:17,309 Speaker 1: is she saying seven rings or Japanese barbecue grill? No 509 00:30:17,389 --> 00:30:20,909 Speaker 1: one's going ever be sure, never know Tomato tomato. I 510 00:30:21,069 --> 00:30:23,109 Speaker 1: kind of before this, I was like, what is an 511 00:30:23,149 --> 00:30:25,989 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande song? So I went to Spotify and I 512 00:30:26,029 --> 00:30:29,069 Speaker 1: typed in Ariana Grande, which is gonna scrut my algorithm. 513 00:30:29,109 --> 00:30:31,029 Speaker 1: But I wrote that and then I like listened to 514 00:30:31,109 --> 00:30:35,309 Speaker 1: it and I was like, none of them quite are good, 515 00:30:35,829 --> 00:30:39,909 Speaker 1: like they've always been there. Yes, rain on me is fine, 516 00:30:40,189 --> 00:30:43,589 Speaker 1: thank you, next is fine, but I've never actively chosen 517 00:30:43,589 --> 00:30:46,429 Speaker 1: to listen to an Ariana Grande song. No, I'm the same. 518 00:30:46,749 --> 00:30:54,829 Speaker 1: It's there, it's playing when you walk into a it 519 00:30:54,909 --> 00:30:58,909 Speaker 1: is Yeah, that's where it's playing. Just a final word 520 00:30:58,989 --> 00:31:02,509 Speaker 1: before we get to charges and sentences. Arianna has recently 521 00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:05,869 Speaker 1: launched her own skincare line, and she's gonna start in 522 00:31:06,229 --> 00:31:08,589 Speaker 1: Wicked the movie when it comes out next year. And 523 00:31:08,629 --> 00:31:10,109 Speaker 1: it actually it's really good. It's got a really good 524 00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:13,989 Speaker 1: that's fun, but I can't get around the skincare and 525 00:31:14,029 --> 00:31:17,109 Speaker 1: makeup line. This is how every episode of Canceled is 526 00:31:17,149 --> 00:31:19,989 Speaker 1: like segment one, two, three, four, And they now have 527 00:31:19,989 --> 00:31:23,749 Speaker 1: a skincare line, like that'slicially, who's that one, Hailey Bieber, 528 00:31:23,989 --> 00:31:28,469 Speaker 1: brad Pitt, brad Pitt, everyone. It's called r E M. 529 00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:32,589 Speaker 1: And her TikTok is just her talking about these products 530 00:31:32,669 --> 00:31:36,749 Speaker 1: and I'm like, lady, let's talk and more singings like 531 00:31:36,749 --> 00:31:39,949 Speaker 1: like why are you telling me about concealer? And then 532 00:31:39,989 --> 00:31:42,189 Speaker 1: I'm like, well is this makeup? Like if I want 533 00:31:42,189 --> 00:31:46,949 Speaker 1: to be my own race, Like what's the deal. We 534 00:31:47,189 --> 00:31:50,509 Speaker 1: just don't need another beauty company and it's getting greedy. 535 00:31:50,869 --> 00:31:55,469 Speaker 1: One of the videos says the concealer conceals puffiness. Nah, 536 00:31:55,589 --> 00:31:58,549 Speaker 1: and I haven't stopped thinking about that because you can't 537 00:31:58,589 --> 00:32:05,949 Speaker 1: conceal puffiness. No, I puffiness just is it can't be concealed, concealed, 538 00:32:05,989 --> 00:32:08,749 Speaker 1: like I understand if it's like concealing dark under eyes. 539 00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:10,509 Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, I still don't believe and Stela 540 00:32:10,589 --> 00:32:12,869 Speaker 1: can do that, but like it sounds like more of 541 00:32:12,909 --> 00:32:20,949 Speaker 1: a reasonable claim. Yeah, Marianna, just seeing, just see Jesse. 542 00:32:21,109 --> 00:32:27,269 Speaker 1: It's time for charges and sentences. Okay. My charge, I'm 543 00:32:27,309 --> 00:32:30,989 Speaker 1: unsurprisingly still stuck not only on the licking of the donut, 544 00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:33,989 Speaker 1: but doing so with a mouth infection that requires surgery. 545 00:32:34,949 --> 00:32:39,709 Speaker 1: My sentence is this was hard because she has already 546 00:32:39,749 --> 00:32:41,589 Speaker 1: been banned from the donut shop. I don't know if 547 00:32:41,629 --> 00:32:45,589 Speaker 1: you know that officially, she's, as far as I can tell, 548 00:32:45,949 --> 00:32:49,149 Speaker 1: still banned. Being banned from a donut shop is a 549 00:32:49,189 --> 00:32:55,229 Speaker 1: bad thing. Okay, that's embarrassing. It also really inhibits your 550 00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:57,869 Speaker 1: lack of access to donuts that I'm going Okay, Well, 551 00:32:57,989 --> 00:33:01,349 Speaker 1: is that punishment enough? No? I have more, And it's 552 00:33:01,389 --> 00:33:05,029 Speaker 1: about the mouth infection. Because the mouth infection, I was 553 00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:09,869 Speaker 1: thinking it should come back the next time she wants 554 00:33:10,189 --> 00:33:13,149 Speaker 1: an apple because she cares so much about health food. 555 00:33:13,149 --> 00:33:16,069 Speaker 1: That's why she's in a donut job. Anyway, the next 556 00:33:16,069 --> 00:33:20,309 Speaker 1: time she wants an apple, well, Jenny licked it, and 557 00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:24,549 Speaker 1: Jenny she had a mouth infection, which weirdly has been 558 00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:30,229 Speaker 1: going around LA since twenty fifteen. So now you need 559 00:33:30,309 --> 00:33:34,269 Speaker 1: surgery again, which means that maybe they have to push 560 00:33:34,309 --> 00:33:37,669 Speaker 1: wicked back or maybe for part of the movie. I 561 00:33:37,709 --> 00:33:39,749 Speaker 1: am thinking of this on the spot you are in 562 00:33:39,789 --> 00:33:45,829 Speaker 1: a box. I think maybe Jeanette McCurdy should replace her. 563 00:33:47,309 --> 00:33:49,709 Speaker 1: She has a mouth infection, which actually it makes it 564 00:33:49,749 --> 00:33:53,069 Speaker 1: hard to think it would, but also the risk of 565 00:33:53,109 --> 00:33:56,389 Speaker 1: spreading on set, especially if she's going to be licking 566 00:33:56,389 --> 00:34:03,189 Speaker 1: the free food exactly exactly. What's your charge? Okay, my charge? 567 00:34:03,189 --> 00:34:06,469 Speaker 1: You will never see it coming licking a dog out. 568 00:34:06,509 --> 00:34:11,829 Speaker 1: That wasn't hers, Okay, that it wasn't hers. I actually 569 00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:14,349 Speaker 1: saw a lot of the headlines at the time. I 570 00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:16,229 Speaker 1: was looking at how was this reported on, you know, 571 00:34:16,349 --> 00:34:19,149 Speaker 1: like first draft of history, what was the what was 572 00:34:19,189 --> 00:34:21,389 Speaker 1: the vibe when this was reported on? And a lot 573 00:34:21,429 --> 00:34:26,749 Speaker 1: of publications needed to include the detail that it wasn't hers. No, 574 00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:28,789 Speaker 1: and it wasn't just that it wasn't hers, it was 575 00:34:28,909 --> 00:34:32,509 Speaker 1: licking a donut that she hadn't paid for that was 576 00:34:32,549 --> 00:34:35,589 Speaker 1: the most important thing, like she could have owned it, 577 00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:40,949 Speaker 1: she had no intention of ever owning. There's something about 578 00:34:41,069 --> 00:34:45,029 Speaker 1: licking something and then bitching about it that feels disrespectful 579 00:34:45,429 --> 00:34:48,149 Speaker 1: to the licked because it's like, if you didn't want it, 580 00:34:48,709 --> 00:34:52,389 Speaker 1: don't lick it. Yeah, great point. I had another idea 581 00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:55,229 Speaker 1: that she really will not like, Okay, hey, what is it? 582 00:34:55,309 --> 00:34:58,949 Speaker 1: She gets a lady in life growth and she's no 583 00:34:59,029 --> 00:35:04,709 Speaker 1: longer a small girl. Oh she's tall six foot six. 584 00:35:06,749 --> 00:35:09,909 Speaker 1: Oh my godness, because have you seen she'll do like 585 00:35:09,909 --> 00:35:12,309 Speaker 1: a And it's always the joke that people are like, 586 00:35:12,669 --> 00:35:14,789 Speaker 1: you're tiny, and then she's like, no, I'm not, and 587 00:35:14,829 --> 00:35:16,309 Speaker 1: she stands next to them. She comes up to like 588 00:35:16,349 --> 00:35:19,509 Speaker 1: their waist. Yeah, but I wanted to be like you're tiny, 589 00:35:20,349 --> 00:35:26,389 Speaker 1: No I'm not, And she stands and really tall. I 590 00:35:26,589 --> 00:35:28,349 Speaker 1: like that a lot. And then she says to someone 591 00:35:28,429 --> 00:35:31,069 Speaker 1: carrying me like a baby and they're like I can't 592 00:35:31,629 --> 00:35:34,709 Speaker 1: my back can't take it, or like you awkwardly can't 593 00:35:34,749 --> 00:35:36,389 Speaker 1: do this, And then when they try and get her 594 00:35:36,389 --> 00:35:38,389 Speaker 1: in a box, it's like we don't have one big enough, 595 00:35:38,469 --> 00:35:42,149 Speaker 1: and she's just like, honestly, this is a much harder life. 596 00:35:42,389 --> 00:35:45,269 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this episode of 597 00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:49,429 Speaker 1: Canceled for all the evidence we've mentioned, including the photos, 598 00:35:50,109 --> 00:35:51,829 Speaker 1: the video because you have to watch the video of 599 00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:54,749 Speaker 1: her speaking like a baby obviously, the footage of her 600 00:35:54,789 --> 00:35:57,149 Speaker 1: looking the doughnut, which I'm sure you've seen. 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