1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,304 Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia 2 00:00:15,424 --> 00:00:18,984 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this 3 00:00:19,064 --> 00:00:27,184 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, 4 00:00:27,224 --> 00:00:30,144 Speaker 1: your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm 5 00:00:30,224 --> 00:00:32,544 Speaker 1: m Vernam and coming up on the show today, a 6 00:00:32,664 --> 00:00:37,264 Speaker 1: very famous family is having a very public throwdown through 7 00:00:37,304 --> 00:00:40,584 Speaker 1: messages and videos and secret sources. We're going to get 8 00:00:40,584 --> 00:00:43,624 Speaker 1: into that because there's a lot happening behind the scenes. Also, 9 00:00:44,304 --> 00:00:48,624 Speaker 1: a very highly anticipated, slightly controversial movie has finally come 10 00:00:48,664 --> 00:00:51,824 Speaker 1: to Australia. We need to talk about it and really 11 00:00:51,824 --> 00:00:53,824 Speaker 1: get into the nitty gritty of it because I've been 12 00:00:53,824 --> 00:00:56,224 Speaker 1: thinking about this movie for months. Months and months, I 13 00:00:56,264 --> 00:00:59,144 Speaker 1: tell you. But first, Emily Vernon, you have a recommendation. 14 00:00:59,424 --> 00:01:01,224 Speaker 1: I do, even though it's not Friday weekend watch and 15 00:01:01,224 --> 00:01:02,024 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let it slid. 16 00:01:02,104 --> 00:01:03,304 Speaker 2: I do have a recommendation. 17 00:01:03,464 --> 00:01:05,224 Speaker 3: I couldn't do it for a week and watch because 18 00:01:05,224 --> 00:01:07,424 Speaker 3: it's actually been out for a whole week now. 19 00:01:07,624 --> 00:01:09,304 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that's against the rules. 20 00:01:09,304 --> 00:01:15,424 Speaker 3: It's against the rules, unfortunately, but that's really annoying rules. 21 00:01:15,704 --> 00:01:18,344 Speaker 3: It's a recommendation that I want everyone to watch because 22 00:01:18,624 --> 00:01:20,464 Speaker 3: I really want to talk about it, and everyone I 23 00:01:20,544 --> 00:01:21,904 Speaker 3: know hasn't watched it. 24 00:01:21,904 --> 00:01:23,384 Speaker 2: It is and stick with me. 25 00:01:23,504 --> 00:01:26,744 Speaker 3: It is a documentary series, but it's really really good. 26 00:01:27,144 --> 00:01:31,584 Speaker 3: It's called SNL Beyond Fifty and it's about the hit 27 00:01:31,704 --> 00:01:35,944 Speaker 3: sketch comedy series SNL Saturday Night Live that I have 28 00:01:36,104 --> 00:01:38,784 Speaker 3: been on the record to say that I don't actually 29 00:01:39,024 --> 00:01:40,304 Speaker 3: really enjoy. 30 00:01:40,664 --> 00:01:42,344 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a bit ay that, but you 31 00:01:42,344 --> 00:01:42,904 Speaker 1: bring it up all. 32 00:01:42,984 --> 00:01:44,104 Speaker 2: I bring it up so much. 33 00:01:44,144 --> 00:01:46,664 Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of physical comedy, and I 34 00:01:46,704 --> 00:01:50,304 Speaker 3: also don't very really understand comedy physical sketch comedy. I 35 00:01:50,304 --> 00:01:55,384 Speaker 3: don't really understand American humor that much, Okay, but everything 36 00:01:55,424 --> 00:01:58,304 Speaker 3: about Saturday Night Live, Like, I'm so interested in the 37 00:01:58,344 --> 00:02:02,504 Speaker 3: mechanics of it because it's something that on paper shouldn't work, 38 00:02:02,744 --> 00:02:07,104 Speaker 3: and yet it does so so well. So four episodes 39 00:02:07,144 --> 00:02:09,944 Speaker 3: have dropped in one go. It's on binge, and I 40 00:02:09,944 --> 00:02:11,904 Speaker 3: have a fear they will do more episodes because it 41 00:02:11,904 --> 00:02:14,504 Speaker 3: doesn't feel like it's ended. But the first two episodes 42 00:02:14,544 --> 00:02:17,984 Speaker 3: are my absolute favorite. The first episode goes into like 43 00:02:18,344 --> 00:02:21,264 Speaker 3: how big Saturday Night Live has become in the US 44 00:02:21,304 --> 00:02:23,584 Speaker 3: and how it's kind of like everyone's dream to get 45 00:02:23,624 --> 00:02:26,144 Speaker 3: on the show doesn't even have to be like if 46 00:02:26,184 --> 00:02:29,384 Speaker 3: you're a comedian, like so many people who are like 47 00:02:29,504 --> 00:02:31,824 Speaker 3: very serious actors wants to host it, and people who 48 00:02:31,864 --> 00:02:34,264 Speaker 3: are like very serious musicians wants to play on there. 49 00:02:34,664 --> 00:02:36,864 Speaker 3: The first episode goes through like all of these big 50 00:02:36,904 --> 00:02:40,144 Speaker 3: aless celebrities like Amy Polo, Jimmy Fallon, Andy Samberg who 51 00:02:40,224 --> 00:02:42,584 Speaker 3: all started on SNL, and they all watch their first 52 00:02:42,584 --> 00:02:45,144 Speaker 3: audition tapes, and it also goes in on how you 53 00:02:45,184 --> 00:02:47,224 Speaker 3: just can't audition for SNL. You have to be invited 54 00:02:47,304 --> 00:02:50,824 Speaker 3: to audition, and they list all of these A list 55 00:02:50,864 --> 00:02:54,264 Speaker 3: celebrities who have auditioned for SNL and never made it, 56 00:02:54,784 --> 00:02:55,624 Speaker 3: and it's insane. 57 00:02:55,664 --> 00:02:57,464 Speaker 2: I want to read you out like all the celebrities 58 00:02:57,464 --> 00:02:57,944 Speaker 2: that I saw. 59 00:02:58,544 --> 00:03:01,704 Speaker 1: So Mindy Kaling, yes, and she worked in the writer's 60 00:03:01,824 --> 00:03:03,544 Speaker 1: room for a whit we never got a sketch up 61 00:03:03,704 --> 00:03:04,384 Speaker 1: and she. 62 00:03:04,464 --> 00:03:07,064 Speaker 3: Became a guest writer, but she was offered a written 63 00:03:07,144 --> 00:03:10,224 Speaker 3: role full time, which she declined, but she she took 64 00:03:10,384 --> 00:03:10,824 Speaker 3: it being. 65 00:03:10,704 --> 00:03:12,344 Speaker 1: So out of her depth in her book. And Amy 66 00:03:12,384 --> 00:03:14,504 Speaker 1: Pohler invites her out to have drinks because she's just 67 00:03:14,504 --> 00:03:16,944 Speaker 1: seen the office and no one's talking to her, but 68 00:03:17,504 --> 00:03:18,024 Speaker 1: my girls don't. 69 00:03:18,024 --> 00:03:22,384 Speaker 3: Okay fine, Kevin Hart, Yes, he auditioned, didn't make it. 70 00:03:22,464 --> 00:03:26,704 Speaker 3: Jennifer Anison auditioned, Jim Carrey auditioned a few times, didn't 71 00:03:26,744 --> 00:03:29,904 Speaker 3: make it. Stephen Cobert audition. He's so funny in the 72 00:03:29,984 --> 00:03:30,984 Speaker 3: interview where he's. 73 00:03:30,824 --> 00:03:32,504 Speaker 2: Like, I think that was pretty good. I don't think 74 00:03:32,504 --> 00:03:33,304 Speaker 2: I should have made it. 75 00:03:33,664 --> 00:03:38,144 Speaker 3: Donald Glover, Zach Galafanakis, Tiffany Hattish, Jordan Peel who's like 76 00:03:38,384 --> 00:03:42,064 Speaker 3: so Veage just now, Aubrey Plaza, and John Mulaney who 77 00:03:42,144 --> 00:03:44,664 Speaker 3: actually they just offered a written like a writer's job 78 00:03:44,704 --> 00:03:46,784 Speaker 3: for and he took the writer's job and became really 79 00:03:46,824 --> 00:03:48,904 Speaker 3: big in that sense. And it was just so interesting 80 00:03:48,944 --> 00:03:51,384 Speaker 3: because they also humble. Like being interviewed, they're like, yeah, 81 00:03:51,464 --> 00:03:53,664 Speaker 3: like I didn't make it, but it's like, I'm still 82 00:03:53,664 --> 00:03:54,344 Speaker 3: so proud of that. 83 00:03:54,904 --> 00:03:57,744 Speaker 1: It's a very specific thing, right because Lawn Michaels, who's 84 00:03:57,744 --> 00:03:59,824 Speaker 1: the genius behind it and so invested in all the 85 00:03:59,864 --> 00:04:02,304 Speaker 1: shows and everything's still there's so many people that have 86 00:04:02,344 --> 00:04:03,904 Speaker 1: come through. He's like, I can see that person's going 87 00:04:03,944 --> 00:04:05,464 Speaker 1: to be a big star. They just weren't right for 88 00:04:05,584 --> 00:04:08,064 Speaker 1: SNL and the cast and also what we wanted to 89 00:04:08,104 --> 00:04:10,504 Speaker 1: do that year. So I find behind the scenes this 90 00:04:10,544 --> 00:04:12,624 Speaker 1: show so fascinating. 91 00:04:12,624 --> 00:04:15,584 Speaker 3: They also only got five minutes to audition it, and 92 00:04:15,664 --> 00:04:17,304 Speaker 3: they don't actually see because it's in the k the 93 00:04:17,344 --> 00:04:19,504 Speaker 3: panel of judges, so they don't see Tina fe they 94 00:04:19,504 --> 00:04:20,584 Speaker 3: don't see Lawn mikeels. 95 00:04:20,624 --> 00:04:21,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they don't. 96 00:04:21,784 --> 00:04:23,224 Speaker 2: Laugh while they're auditioning. 97 00:04:23,464 --> 00:04:25,984 Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently it's massive if you actually get a response 98 00:04:25,984 --> 00:04:27,184 Speaker 3: from like Lawn and Tina and. 99 00:04:27,304 --> 00:04:29,664 Speaker 1: Sad like if they laugh they normally don't. Amy Polar 100 00:04:29,744 --> 00:04:32,224 Speaker 1: notoriously laughs really hard to try, and like warm the 101 00:04:33,184 --> 00:04:35,064 Speaker 1: so nice. I feel like Tina Fae has written a 102 00:04:35,104 --> 00:04:37,224 Speaker 1: lot about SNL in her book, so is Amy Polo, 103 00:04:37,344 --> 00:04:39,664 Speaker 1: so is Ndy Kaling. So I feel like they're often 104 00:04:39,704 --> 00:04:42,064 Speaker 1: the chapters I gravitate towards because they just paint such 105 00:04:42,064 --> 00:04:44,024 Speaker 1: a fascinating picture and it seems. 106 00:04:43,664 --> 00:04:46,544 Speaker 3: Like they're all dying, Like there's no way that you 107 00:04:46,544 --> 00:04:48,704 Speaker 3: could stay alive while working on this show, because the 108 00:04:48,744 --> 00:04:51,104 Speaker 3: second episode, which is my favorite episode, is all just 109 00:04:51,144 --> 00:04:52,864 Speaker 3: about the writers, and I feel like being a writer, 110 00:04:53,024 --> 00:04:56,784 Speaker 3: I was most fascinated. Yeah, and if you've read Romantic Comedy, 111 00:04:56,984 --> 00:05:00,864 Speaker 3: I haven't understanding of how intense working on a show 112 00:05:00,944 --> 00:05:03,504 Speaker 3: like SNL is or if you watch the movie Saturday Night, 113 00:05:03,544 --> 00:05:04,744 Speaker 3: which is absolutely brilliant. 114 00:05:04,824 --> 00:05:07,304 Speaker 1: That movie like makes my heart beat too fast. It's 115 00:05:07,384 --> 00:05:08,304 Speaker 1: so good. 116 00:05:08,384 --> 00:05:10,544 Speaker 3: It's so tense, and like they showed this in the 117 00:05:10,544 --> 00:05:12,864 Speaker 3: second episode perfectly, so it was kind of like a 118 00:05:12,944 --> 00:05:15,224 Speaker 3: walkthrough of what the whole week looks like. And they 119 00:05:15,264 --> 00:05:18,144 Speaker 3: did Iowa Derberry's episode where she came on to so 120 00:05:18,224 --> 00:05:21,184 Speaker 3: she's in it. It's really well done. So on Monday, 121 00:05:21,224 --> 00:05:23,464 Speaker 3: which is like their first day of the week, they 122 00:05:23,464 --> 00:05:25,984 Speaker 3: all sit in Lawn Michael's office, like they all literally 123 00:05:26,024 --> 00:05:27,904 Speaker 3: just pile into the office and they're all on the floor. 124 00:05:27,984 --> 00:05:30,144 Speaker 3: Ioderberry or the host will be like at the front 125 00:05:30,144 --> 00:05:32,544 Speaker 3: and center and yeah, Lawn and they all kind of 126 00:05:32,584 --> 00:05:34,664 Speaker 3: pitch to her as if like trying to warm her 127 00:05:34,744 --> 00:05:36,104 Speaker 3: up to get used to it, because the host is 128 00:05:36,144 --> 00:05:37,984 Speaker 3: allowed to pitch as well, and she was throwing some 129 00:05:38,064 --> 00:05:40,424 Speaker 3: pitches in, but they save all their good pitches for 130 00:05:40,464 --> 00:05:41,584 Speaker 3: the actual table read. 131 00:05:42,024 --> 00:05:43,424 Speaker 2: So they spend the whole. 132 00:05:43,264 --> 00:05:46,184 Speaker 3: Of Tuesday, and by Tuesday, I mean like from like 133 00:05:46,304 --> 00:05:49,544 Speaker 3: six am from Tuesday till like probably eight am on Wednesday, 134 00:05:49,664 --> 00:05:52,184 Speaker 3: just riding out sketches. Like they just write and write 135 00:05:52,224 --> 00:05:55,784 Speaker 3: and write and brainstorm, and it's so tense like watching them. 136 00:05:55,784 --> 00:05:57,504 Speaker 3: They're all in like their pajamas, they're all like half 137 00:05:57,504 --> 00:05:59,384 Speaker 3: asleep on the couch. They all go like a bit 138 00:05:59,424 --> 00:06:02,024 Speaker 3: crazy and get a second window like three am. It's 139 00:06:02,064 --> 00:06:04,744 Speaker 3: so interesting. And on Wednesday, five pm they do the 140 00:06:04,744 --> 00:06:07,664 Speaker 3: big table read. So about thirty five to forty sketches 141 00:06:07,704 --> 00:06:10,304 Speaker 3: get red and it takes about three hours all together 142 00:06:10,504 --> 00:06:13,904 Speaker 3: to get through them. Then LRD Michaels goes away with 143 00:06:13,944 --> 00:06:16,384 Speaker 3: like the head riders and stuff to choose the sketches 144 00:06:16,384 --> 00:06:18,904 Speaker 3: that get chosen, and then they release to everyone, kind 145 00:06:18,944 --> 00:06:21,184 Speaker 3: of like those like high schools where they put out 146 00:06:21,184 --> 00:06:23,264 Speaker 3: like who made it in the plays and they all 147 00:06:23,264 --> 00:06:24,744 Speaker 3: the riders run up to the list and see they 148 00:06:24,824 --> 00:06:27,824 Speaker 3: made it. And then on Thursday, after they've decided which 149 00:06:27,824 --> 00:06:30,024 Speaker 3: sketches make it, that's when they start doing the sets 150 00:06:30,104 --> 00:06:32,384 Speaker 3: and the costumes. Reminder that like this only goes live 151 00:06:32,424 --> 00:06:35,104 Speaker 3: on Saturday. They only start building the sets and all 152 00:06:35,104 --> 00:06:37,664 Speaker 3: the costumes on the Thursday and on thursdays when the 153 00:06:37,664 --> 00:06:39,944 Speaker 3: re rides happen. So they split the riders into half. 154 00:06:40,264 --> 00:06:41,984 Speaker 3: One half takes like half the sketches, the other half 155 00:06:42,024 --> 00:06:44,104 Speaker 3: take the other half and they rewrite to make it better. 156 00:06:44,584 --> 00:06:47,984 Speaker 3: Friday they do rehearsals. Saturday eight pm is the dress 157 00:06:48,024 --> 00:06:50,744 Speaker 3: rehearsal where they have a live audience come in. This 158 00:06:50,904 --> 00:06:52,304 Speaker 3: is not the one that gets filmed. They just do 159 00:06:52,384 --> 00:06:54,944 Speaker 3: it in front of a live audience. After that dress rehearsal, 160 00:06:55,024 --> 00:06:58,384 Speaker 3: more sketches get cut so your sketch could make it. 161 00:06:58,384 --> 00:06:59,664 Speaker 1: It's just like telling me about. 162 00:06:59,464 --> 00:07:01,584 Speaker 3: Because there was this one sketch that required like this 163 00:07:01,744 --> 00:07:04,424 Speaker 3: massive boat to be built. It didn't make it after 164 00:07:04,464 --> 00:07:07,424 Speaker 3: the dress rehearsal, so these people, including the riders had 165 00:07:07,424 --> 00:07:09,024 Speaker 3: to be like, well, I guess we just have this 166 00:07:09,064 --> 00:07:11,464 Speaker 3: boat now that's going to be you. And then they're 167 00:07:11,464 --> 00:07:15,224 Speaker 3: still writing and finalizing up until eleven thirty pm. And 168 00:07:15,264 --> 00:07:17,504 Speaker 3: they famously say like, we don't go live when the 169 00:07:17,544 --> 00:07:19,304 Speaker 3: show's ready to go live because we have to. 170 00:07:19,464 --> 00:07:21,704 Speaker 1: Yeap, which is true. I think of all deadline that 171 00:07:21,864 --> 00:07:23,344 Speaker 1: is insane. 172 00:07:22,824 --> 00:07:25,264 Speaker 3: Like it's such a well oiled machine and there's like 173 00:07:25,504 --> 00:07:28,584 Speaker 3: hundreds of people working on it and just watching behind 174 00:07:28,584 --> 00:07:31,744 Speaker 3: the scenes. If you watch the movie Saturday Night, there's 175 00:07:31,824 --> 00:07:34,824 Speaker 3: like no exaggeration at all, like as. 176 00:07:34,704 --> 00:07:36,024 Speaker 2: Chaotic as that movie. 177 00:07:36,064 --> 00:07:37,704 Speaker 3: I just don't know how they do it and there's 178 00:07:37,744 --> 00:07:40,184 Speaker 3: someone who has never really been into Saturday Night Light. 179 00:07:40,264 --> 00:07:42,464 Speaker 1: I was like, there's no you are into it. You're 180 00:07:42,504 --> 00:07:44,704 Speaker 1: a super fan. Now you're across all the lawyer, across 181 00:07:44,704 --> 00:07:47,384 Speaker 1: all the background. And also I feel like way wilder 182 00:07:47,464 --> 00:07:49,624 Speaker 1: things have happened that they've never spoken about. Like Amy 183 00:07:49,624 --> 00:07:51,824 Speaker 1: Poehla kind of a loose from her book and she 184 00:07:51,904 --> 00:07:53,744 Speaker 1: says things like, you know, if we had a really 185 00:07:53,784 --> 00:07:56,064 Speaker 1: wild week behind the scenes, the show was never as 186 00:07:56,144 --> 00:07:58,224 Speaker 1: good because they were like, you know, things were happening. 187 00:07:58,264 --> 00:07:59,984 Speaker 1: So she's like, if you ever see a bad episode, 188 00:08:00,024 --> 00:08:01,024 Speaker 1: just know we had a good week. 189 00:08:01,144 --> 00:08:01,384 Speaker 3: Yeah. 190 00:08:01,424 --> 00:08:02,784 Speaker 1: And so I always think that when I see it 191 00:08:02,904 --> 00:08:04,024 Speaker 1: very care episode. 192 00:08:04,064 --> 00:08:05,184 Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff that I feel like they 193 00:08:05,264 --> 00:08:07,744 Speaker 3: skit over. Like season twenty apparently there was so much 194 00:08:07,784 --> 00:08:10,664 Speaker 3: backstage drama of like they all just like kind of 195 00:08:10,704 --> 00:08:12,184 Speaker 3: like have sex with each other and make out with 196 00:08:12,224 --> 00:08:13,744 Speaker 3: each other, and there's a lot of stuff going on. 197 00:08:13,744 --> 00:08:17,544 Speaker 3: Like twenty four to seven, they literally don't go home 198 00:08:17,664 --> 00:08:21,304 Speaker 3: until Sunday, and it's just like, oh, I just I 199 00:08:21,384 --> 00:08:22,584 Speaker 3: kind of want to be there. I kind of want 200 00:08:22,584 --> 00:08:25,144 Speaker 3: to write a show and be there, and I feel 201 00:08:25,184 --> 00:08:28,664 Speaker 3: like I should audition. So SML if you're listening, I'm coming. 202 00:08:37,104 --> 00:08:39,184 Speaker 1: So over the last couple of days, there's been a 203 00:08:39,184 --> 00:08:42,304 Speaker 1: lot of drama for one of Hollywood's most famous families, 204 00:08:42,344 --> 00:08:43,584 Speaker 1: and that is a Cyrus family. 205 00:08:43,944 --> 00:08:47,384 Speaker 2: The Cyrus family. When will they leave? That's too much, 206 00:08:47,424 --> 00:08:48,184 Speaker 2: too much is happening. 207 00:08:48,224 --> 00:08:49,544 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of them. First of all, 208 00:08:49,584 --> 00:08:52,064 Speaker 1: so you've got Miley Cyrus, who's obviously the most famous 209 00:08:52,104 --> 00:08:54,104 Speaker 1: one of the family. Her dad, Billy. 210 00:08:53,984 --> 00:08:56,104 Speaker 2: Ray Cyrus, second famous. 211 00:08:55,824 --> 00:08:57,544 Speaker 1: Second famous, I don't know the other some of the 212 00:08:57,544 --> 00:08:59,944 Speaker 1: other siblings are coming up through that. And also Tish 213 00:08:59,984 --> 00:09:02,744 Speaker 1: Cyrus with her fancy wedding. I think they're like. 214 00:09:02,744 --> 00:09:05,784 Speaker 3: Now famous for like the newer generation. But my parents 215 00:09:05,864 --> 00:09:07,144 Speaker 3: think just like the two of them exist. 216 00:09:07,344 --> 00:09:10,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, this particular bit of drama which has been going 217 00:09:10,184 --> 00:09:12,984 Speaker 1: on for many years. So obviously, Billy Ray Cyrus was 218 00:09:13,024 --> 00:09:15,784 Speaker 1: on Hannah Montana with Miley Cyrus and they were a 219 00:09:15,864 --> 00:09:18,664 Speaker 1: very famous father daughter Joe back at the time, and 220 00:09:18,704 --> 00:09:20,704 Speaker 1: they have a you know, there's a big family of kids. 221 00:09:20,824 --> 00:09:23,304 Speaker 1: And when he married Trish Cyrus, he adopted her two 222 00:09:23,384 --> 00:09:25,904 Speaker 1: older kids and they were kind of this like really happy, 223 00:09:25,904 --> 00:09:29,304 Speaker 1: famous family. And then over the years things have deteriorated 224 00:09:29,584 --> 00:09:33,024 Speaker 1: from Billy Ray and Tish getting divorced. Miley Cyrus has 225 00:09:33,424 --> 00:09:35,824 Speaker 1: said a few things, different things in interviews about why 226 00:09:35,824 --> 00:09:37,784 Speaker 1: she doesn't have a relationship with her father and how 227 00:09:37,784 --> 00:09:39,624 Speaker 1: things are difficult and how she's had to lean on 228 00:09:39,664 --> 00:09:40,304 Speaker 1: her mom. 229 00:09:40,144 --> 00:09:41,424 Speaker 2: And even the kids. 230 00:09:41,424 --> 00:09:43,984 Speaker 3: Like the siblings split in half, right, Yeah, Like half 231 00:09:44,024 --> 00:09:46,904 Speaker 3: of them were in supportive, like quite like publicly in 232 00:09:46,944 --> 00:09:49,224 Speaker 3: support of Billy Ray, and the other half was quite. 233 00:09:49,024 --> 00:09:51,704 Speaker 1: Per Yeah, And that was very evident on Tish's wedding 234 00:09:51,784 --> 00:09:54,144 Speaker 1: day when half the siblings were there smiling and the 235 00:09:54,144 --> 00:09:58,184 Speaker 1: photos including Miley and the other kids, including Noah Cyrus went. 236 00:09:58,064 --> 00:10:00,144 Speaker 2: To Walmont, they spent a day together. 237 00:10:00,384 --> 00:10:03,464 Speaker 1: Yeah. And also very infamously, when Miley Cyrus won her 238 00:10:03,504 --> 00:10:05,944 Speaker 1: first Grammy, in her thank you speech, she named her 239 00:10:06,024 --> 00:10:07,824 Speaker 1: mum and some of her siblings and then she said 240 00:10:07,904 --> 00:10:10,584 Speaker 1: very pointedly, and that's all kind of just like adding 241 00:10:10,584 --> 00:10:12,144 Speaker 1: her dad out. So that all happened, and that's kind 242 00:10:12,144 --> 00:10:14,184 Speaker 1: of feels like we haven't heard much from them in 243 00:10:14,224 --> 00:10:16,704 Speaker 1: the last couple of months. Billy Ray Cyrus did make 244 00:10:16,744 --> 00:10:21,264 Speaker 1: headlines a while ago for marrying Fire Rose. Remember the situation, Yeah, 245 00:10:21,304 --> 00:10:23,984 Speaker 1: and he got in trouble. Well, yeah, so she was 246 00:10:24,024 --> 00:10:26,704 Speaker 1: an a Strange singer. She was over twenty years younger 247 00:10:26,744 --> 00:10:28,904 Speaker 1: than him. They got married, talked for how much they're 248 00:10:28,904 --> 00:10:32,504 Speaker 1: in love, and then when their separation was announced, she 249 00:10:32,624 --> 00:10:35,944 Speaker 1: made some pretty terrible accusations against him treating her quite 250 00:10:35,944 --> 00:10:38,504 Speaker 1: badly and being quite abusive behind the scenes, and a 251 00:10:38,544 --> 00:10:40,624 Speaker 1: lot of stuff came out around that. So that's the 252 00:10:40,704 --> 00:10:42,784 Speaker 1: last year or so, and then it's been a little 253 00:10:42,784 --> 00:10:45,464 Speaker 1: bit quiet for the last couple of months until Billy 254 00:10:45,544 --> 00:10:48,464 Speaker 1: Ray Cyrus performed at the Liberty Ball as part of 255 00:10:48,504 --> 00:10:49,824 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's inauguration. 256 00:10:53,744 --> 00:10:59,384 Speaker 3: I came no more, y'all could put your hands together 257 00:10:59,464 --> 00:11:00,064 Speaker 3: now like that. 258 00:11:00,704 --> 00:11:03,784 Speaker 2: If you encourage about keep going. They told me to 259 00:11:03,904 --> 00:11:05,544 Speaker 2: kill as much time as possible. 260 00:11:05,584 --> 00:11:07,464 Speaker 3: So does anybody know the words? 261 00:11:07,824 --> 00:11:12,064 Speaker 2: You breaking the heart while I'm here child a little bit? 262 00:11:12,104 --> 00:11:14,984 Speaker 1: I mean, that would have been bad enough. 263 00:11:15,104 --> 00:11:19,104 Speaker 3: But there were a lot of performers there, like Carrie Underwood, 264 00:11:19,184 --> 00:11:20,944 Speaker 3: who a lot of people were like, why do you 265 00:11:20,984 --> 00:11:24,504 Speaker 3: have to perform for this inauguration? But I think the 266 00:11:24,624 --> 00:11:29,104 Speaker 3: aftermath of what happened after his performance specifically, is what 267 00:11:29,184 --> 00:11:30,224 Speaker 3: everyone's talking about. 268 00:11:30,304 --> 00:11:31,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there was something going with someone high 269 00:11:31,984 --> 00:11:35,784 Speaker 1: above was cursing these Trump inauguration performances because Carrie Underwood 270 00:11:35,984 --> 00:11:38,224 Speaker 1: when she came out to sing America the Beautiful, the music, 271 00:11:38,264 --> 00:11:40,424 Speaker 1: didn't you see that the music didn't start and she's 272 00:11:40,464 --> 00:11:42,104 Speaker 1: saying it just you know, without the music, and it 273 00:11:42,144 --> 00:11:44,104 Speaker 1: was fine, but you know, it wasn't wasn't the greatest 274 00:11:44,104 --> 00:11:46,744 Speaker 1: thing to happen. But then when Billy Ray Cyrus performed, 275 00:11:46,784 --> 00:11:49,544 Speaker 1: he just seemed very like he was barely singing. He 276 00:11:49,624 --> 00:11:51,504 Speaker 1: was asking people if he wanted together the stage like 277 00:11:51,504 --> 00:11:54,344 Speaker 1: he was just a complete mess, and people were just like, 278 00:11:54,384 --> 00:11:57,704 Speaker 1: this man is not okay. He's been performing for decades, 279 00:11:57,784 --> 00:11:59,784 Speaker 1: He's never he was just slumping around the stage. It 280 00:11:59,864 --> 00:12:00,504 Speaker 1: was really bad. 281 00:12:00,584 --> 00:12:01,384 Speaker 2: He looked unwell. 282 00:12:01,544 --> 00:12:04,784 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he looked very very unwell. So this caused 283 00:12:04,824 --> 00:12:07,744 Speaker 1: Trace Cyrus, so one of the elder sons of the 284 00:12:07,784 --> 00:12:10,704 Speaker 1: Cyrus family, he was adopted by Bell Yes, has been 285 00:12:10,784 --> 00:12:12,624 Speaker 1: rayed like that's his dad. He said so many times, 286 00:12:12,624 --> 00:12:14,784 Speaker 1: he's like, this man raised me. He's my father. Put 287 00:12:14,784 --> 00:12:18,424 Speaker 1: out an Instagram post being like very concerned about Billy 288 00:12:18,504 --> 00:12:21,384 Speaker 1: Ray's health and he said me and the girls, which 289 00:12:21,424 --> 00:12:23,424 Speaker 1: is Miley and Norah, and you know the other girls 290 00:12:23,424 --> 00:12:26,104 Speaker 1: in the family have been genuinely worried about you for years, 291 00:12:26,104 --> 00:12:29,024 Speaker 1: but you've pushed all of us away. Noah has desperately 292 00:12:29,104 --> 00:12:31,064 Speaker 1: that's the youngest one, has desperately wanted you to be 293 00:12:31,104 --> 00:12:33,424 Speaker 1: part of her life and you haven't even been there 294 00:12:33,424 --> 00:12:36,584 Speaker 1: for you. And that's your baby girl. She deserves better somehow, 295 00:12:36,664 --> 00:12:39,344 Speaker 1: just like me, she still idolizes you. And he went 296 00:12:39,384 --> 00:12:41,264 Speaker 1: on to say like he loved him. He's grown up 297 00:12:41,264 --> 00:12:43,064 Speaker 1: with this man, and he was like, please get help. 298 00:12:43,424 --> 00:12:45,144 Speaker 1: He went on to say later that he himself is 299 00:12:45,184 --> 00:12:47,464 Speaker 1: sober and says to Billy Ray through this is all 300 00:12:47,464 --> 00:12:50,224 Speaker 1: public through the Instagram post. I don't know what you're 301 00:12:50,264 --> 00:12:52,544 Speaker 1: involved with, but I know it's something bad, and if 302 00:12:52,584 --> 00:12:54,544 Speaker 1: you'll want to get clean and sober, I'm here to 303 00:12:54,584 --> 00:12:54,984 Speaker 1: help you. 304 00:12:55,304 --> 00:12:57,024 Speaker 2: A lot was said in that one post. 305 00:12:57,104 --> 00:13:00,144 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it was a very long message and like 306 00:13:00,184 --> 00:13:02,184 Speaker 1: a really nice photo of them from them and growing 307 00:13:02,224 --> 00:13:02,664 Speaker 1: up together. 308 00:13:02,744 --> 00:13:04,024 Speaker 3: And you would have to know that I would have 309 00:13:04,144 --> 00:13:08,864 Speaker 3: to be really bad for him to make it a 310 00:13:08,904 --> 00:13:09,704 Speaker 3: public post. 311 00:13:09,984 --> 00:13:10,584 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 312 00:13:10,664 --> 00:13:13,664 Speaker 3: I can't even imagine how many messages and texts and 313 00:13:13,744 --> 00:13:16,064 Speaker 3: calls they would have had to make to him and 314 00:13:16,624 --> 00:13:18,864 Speaker 3: until they were like, no, this has to be public. 315 00:13:18,904 --> 00:13:20,184 Speaker 2: If that's the only way you'll see it. 316 00:13:20,504 --> 00:13:22,024 Speaker 1: Well, I think for a while, they're like people were 317 00:13:22,104 --> 00:13:25,184 Speaker 1: very invested in the Billy Ray and Phioh's divorce because 318 00:13:25,464 --> 00:13:27,584 Speaker 1: they were saying so many public things back and forth. 319 00:13:27,624 --> 00:13:29,104 Speaker 1: But it was almost like people were watching that for 320 00:13:29,224 --> 00:13:31,824 Speaker 1: like a voyeurism of like, oh, this old guy married 321 00:13:31,824 --> 00:13:33,504 Speaker 1: this really young woman. They were so in love and 322 00:13:33,544 --> 00:13:35,664 Speaker 1: now they're having this bit of breakup and isn't it juicy? 323 00:13:36,064 --> 00:13:37,824 Speaker 1: And so I think people were watching that. But then 324 00:13:37,864 --> 00:13:40,184 Speaker 1: when this is the first time we've really seen at 325 00:13:40,184 --> 00:13:44,344 Speaker 1: the inauguration event, seeing Billy Ray, like you know, in person, performing, 326 00:13:44,384 --> 00:13:46,744 Speaker 1: and it was so startling to people that I think 327 00:13:46,784 --> 00:13:49,784 Speaker 1: that's why Trace put this post out. And then apparently 328 00:13:50,104 --> 00:13:53,184 Speaker 1: Billy Ray's team threatened him with legal action over the post, 329 00:13:53,224 --> 00:13:55,024 Speaker 1: and a few days later he put a follow up 330 00:13:55,024 --> 00:13:57,984 Speaker 1: saying that his letter was meant to just be loving 331 00:13:58,144 --> 00:14:00,144 Speaker 1: and he was just trying to be honest. 332 00:14:01,424 --> 00:14:04,024 Speaker 3: So what, like, I feel like, what will happen now, Like, 333 00:14:04,064 --> 00:14:07,504 Speaker 3: there's no way he would respond to that, do you think? 334 00:14:07,624 --> 00:14:10,504 Speaker 1: Well, to an extent he did. So. Brayson, who's the 335 00:14:10,544 --> 00:14:14,064 Speaker 1: other son, Billy Ray's other son, is now working with 336 00:14:14,104 --> 00:14:17,184 Speaker 1: Billy Ray to produce his new album, and he was 337 00:14:17,184 --> 00:14:19,904 Speaker 1: like a dig at his brother, so Hembrace. 338 00:14:19,264 --> 00:14:21,984 Speaker 3: And the one who like when it was Tish's wedding, 339 00:14:22,224 --> 00:14:25,304 Speaker 3: him and Noah were doing the stories together. 340 00:14:25,704 --> 00:14:27,424 Speaker 1: Yeah okay, yeah, try to keep them all straight. It's 341 00:14:27,464 --> 00:14:29,144 Speaker 1: like the Kardashians over here. There's a lot of moving 342 00:14:29,184 --> 00:14:32,264 Speaker 1: aparts this family. He put up a statement that was 343 00:14:32,304 --> 00:14:34,184 Speaker 1: sort of in response to what his brother had said, 344 00:14:34,424 --> 00:14:36,944 Speaker 1: and he said, our dad is happy, healthy, and ready 345 00:14:36,944 --> 00:14:38,504 Speaker 1: to make this record, and. 346 00:14:38,384 --> 00:14:39,704 Speaker 2: I mean, we all know that's not true. 347 00:14:39,824 --> 00:14:42,464 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And then when Trey Cyrus was doing a 348 00:14:42,544 --> 00:14:44,184 Speaker 1: Q and A on his Instagram and it was a 349 00:14:44,224 --> 00:14:46,024 Speaker 1: lot of moving parts here was doing a Q and 350 00:14:46,024 --> 00:14:47,144 Speaker 1: A and his Instagram. 351 00:14:46,784 --> 00:14:48,944 Speaker 2: Should just make a big family Instagram. 352 00:14:49,584 --> 00:14:52,584 Speaker 1: Group chat was saying, well, how come you're saying that 353 00:14:52,624 --> 00:14:54,744 Speaker 1: your dad is so sick if Brace and your brother 354 00:14:54,784 --> 00:14:56,984 Speaker 1: are standing by him, And he just said birds of 355 00:14:56,984 --> 00:15:00,784 Speaker 1: a feather flocked together, Oh okay, which yeah, is kind 356 00:15:00,784 --> 00:15:02,344 Speaker 1: of quite telling. So that's where they. 357 00:15:02,384 --> 00:15:05,624 Speaker 3: All seem very emotionally driven, Like they all seem very 358 00:15:05,744 --> 00:15:09,944 Speaker 3: very upset and angry at the whole situation. And I 359 00:15:09,944 --> 00:15:12,344 Speaker 3: can't even imagine what everyone else is thinking, because then 360 00:15:12,344 --> 00:15:15,384 Speaker 3: you get a Miley Cyrus who's so so famous that 361 00:15:15,584 --> 00:15:20,344 Speaker 3: I feel like she can't actually contribute any noise to this. 362 00:15:20,904 --> 00:15:22,424 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean if she must know that if 363 00:15:22,464 --> 00:15:25,024 Speaker 1: she made any sort of statemental comment, that would just 364 00:15:25,144 --> 00:15:28,304 Speaker 1: ignite the whole situation even more, being the most famous 365 00:15:28,784 --> 00:15:31,064 Speaker 1: one of the family. But also every time she does 366 00:15:31,064 --> 00:15:33,144 Speaker 1: say anything. Man, when she's on David Leman's talk show, 367 00:15:33,144 --> 00:15:35,464 Speaker 1: when she didn't even say anything that bad about her dad, 368 00:15:35,744 --> 00:15:38,024 Speaker 1: she talked about her mum in such a loving way 369 00:15:38,064 --> 00:15:39,784 Speaker 1: of how supportive she was, and she's like, yeah, my 370 00:15:39,864 --> 00:15:42,904 Speaker 1: dad taught me resilience and he gave me some good hair, 371 00:15:42,984 --> 00:15:45,304 Speaker 1: and you know, she's just very like she's trying, obviously 372 00:15:45,344 --> 00:15:47,064 Speaker 1: trying not to get in the weeds of it. She 373 00:15:47,104 --> 00:15:50,344 Speaker 1: hasn't publicly commented on this, but a lot of sources 374 00:15:50,504 --> 00:15:52,904 Speaker 1: have said that like her idea is just giving these 375 00:15:52,904 --> 00:15:55,904 Speaker 1: anonymous responses where she's been saying publicly that she's aware 376 00:15:55,904 --> 00:15:57,864 Speaker 1: of the situation but doesn't want to get involved. But 377 00:15:57,904 --> 00:16:00,464 Speaker 1: she's said that via sources so that her name isn't 378 00:16:00,504 --> 00:16:01,384 Speaker 1: directly linked to it. 379 00:16:02,304 --> 00:16:03,704 Speaker 2: I think that's the way she has to go. 380 00:16:03,904 --> 00:16:04,184 Speaker 1: Yeah. 381 00:16:04,304 --> 00:16:06,344 Speaker 3: Oh, I feel really bad because it also feels like 382 00:16:06,544 --> 00:16:09,744 Speaker 3: this time, especially Miley Cyrus is just having like we've 383 00:16:09,784 --> 00:16:12,904 Speaker 3: been talking about so so much this last year. It's 384 00:16:12,944 --> 00:16:15,704 Speaker 3: like she's just like found her like sound and like 385 00:16:15,744 --> 00:16:18,024 Speaker 3: found her look and she's just so so happy, is 386 00:16:18,064 --> 00:16:20,384 Speaker 3: what it looked like from the outside. But you have 387 00:16:20,464 --> 00:16:22,064 Speaker 3: to have a big Grammys win, like her first ever 388 00:16:22,104 --> 00:16:24,904 Speaker 3: Grammy's win and that beautiful performance she gave, and it 389 00:16:25,024 --> 00:16:27,824 Speaker 3: just sucks that, like the entire thing that's happening with 390 00:16:27,864 --> 00:16:29,664 Speaker 3: a family is the one that's taking over headlines for 391 00:16:29,704 --> 00:16:30,464 Speaker 3: her nana. 392 00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:34,504 Speaker 1: So a few years ago it was announced that Amy 393 00:16:34,544 --> 00:16:37,024 Speaker 1: Adams was taking on a new film project, So that 394 00:16:37,144 --> 00:16:39,424 Speaker 1: wasn't the interesting thing that woman is in. Like she's 395 00:16:39,504 --> 00:16:41,584 Speaker 1: kind of also like an a cul Kimmen. She's always working, 396 00:16:41,624 --> 00:16:44,504 Speaker 1: she's always getting nominated for things. This particular movie people 397 00:16:44,544 --> 00:16:46,704 Speaker 1: were quite invested in because it was called Night Bitch 398 00:16:46,864 --> 00:16:50,704 Speaker 1: yep and a Great Name. Great name based off a 399 00:16:50,744 --> 00:16:53,304 Speaker 1: book that was released in twenty twenty one by Rachel Yoda, 400 00:16:53,384 --> 00:16:54,784 Speaker 1: The Great Book, Great Book. 401 00:16:54,864 --> 00:16:56,424 Speaker 3: Yeah you and I have both had a beautiful cover 402 00:16:56,544 --> 00:16:58,024 Speaker 3: as well, like the Big Slab of. 403 00:16:58,024 --> 00:17:01,304 Speaker 1: Me just lovely and directed by Mariolhella, who is an 404 00:17:01,304 --> 00:17:03,504 Speaker 1: incredible director who also wrote the screenplay. So all the 405 00:17:03,544 --> 00:17:04,104 Speaker 1: pieces were there. 406 00:17:04,144 --> 00:17:04,784 Speaker 2: Everything's great. 407 00:17:04,944 --> 00:17:06,704 Speaker 1: It was also this idea of people were like, oh, 408 00:17:06,904 --> 00:17:09,024 Speaker 1: is it alluding to the fact that, like, she imagines 409 00:17:09,064 --> 00:17:10,744 Speaker 1: herself turning into a dog. And this is not a 410 00:17:10,784 --> 00:17:13,864 Speaker 1: spoiler because no, no. In the movie, Amy Adam's character 411 00:17:13,984 --> 00:17:16,184 Speaker 1: does transform into a dog, but it makes sense when 412 00:17:16,184 --> 00:17:16,704 Speaker 1: you watch him. 413 00:17:16,744 --> 00:17:18,464 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's super cute. 414 00:17:18,904 --> 00:17:20,504 Speaker 1: You just love getting to be home with them all 415 00:17:20,544 --> 00:17:21,704 Speaker 1: the time? Yeah, I do. 416 00:17:21,984 --> 00:17:22,544 Speaker 2: I love it. 417 00:17:23,264 --> 00:17:29,824 Speaker 1: But in this family can clean their hose bus. If 418 00:17:29,864 --> 00:17:32,864 Speaker 1: you wake him up, I will whip your throat out. Okay, 419 00:17:33,424 --> 00:17:36,224 Speaker 1: from what it's worth. I will do to stay home 420 00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:37,024 Speaker 1: with them every day. 421 00:17:37,944 --> 00:17:39,584 Speaker 3: Love it. 422 00:17:39,984 --> 00:17:43,264 Speaker 1: I'm not buzzy. I just feel off. Look at my teeth, 423 00:17:43,664 --> 00:17:44,144 Speaker 1: sharp air. 424 00:17:44,304 --> 00:17:45,344 Speaker 2: It's a little bit weird. 425 00:17:46,264 --> 00:17:50,464 Speaker 1: Motherhood and changes you and connects you to some primal urges. 426 00:17:53,784 --> 00:17:56,384 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm stuck. Can make up a plan, 427 00:17:56,664 --> 00:17:57,584 Speaker 1: draw up a schedule. 428 00:17:57,704 --> 00:17:59,464 Speaker 2: Happiness is a choice. 429 00:18:00,184 --> 00:18:04,224 Speaker 1: Happiness is a choice. I'll try. I'm never going to 430 00:18:04,264 --> 00:18:12,864 Speaker 1: be smart happy person ever again. Oh and I'm pretty 431 00:18:12,864 --> 00:18:16,424 Speaker 1: sure I'm turning into a dog. You're so funny. So 432 00:18:16,544 --> 00:18:19,944 Speaker 1: I saw this movie in October of last year as 433 00:18:20,024 --> 00:18:22,944 Speaker 1: part of South By Southwestern Sydney, and then it just 434 00:18:22,984 --> 00:18:24,784 Speaker 1: didn't come out in Australia and there was no way 435 00:18:24,824 --> 00:18:26,144 Speaker 1: to watch it. There was no way to talk about it. 436 00:18:26,144 --> 00:18:27,544 Speaker 1: So I didn't bring it up on the spill because 437 00:18:27,584 --> 00:18:29,184 Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk about this movie that has 438 00:18:29,224 --> 00:18:31,704 Speaker 1: been plaguing my mind ever since then if people couldn't 439 00:18:31,704 --> 00:18:33,904 Speaker 1: watch it. But in the last week it has finally 440 00:18:33,904 --> 00:18:36,344 Speaker 1: come out on Disney Plus, you've watched it. What are 441 00:18:36,384 --> 00:18:37,864 Speaker 1: your thoughts. We haven't talked about it. 442 00:18:38,544 --> 00:18:40,544 Speaker 3: And this came up because I watched it on the weekend. 443 00:18:40,584 --> 00:18:42,224 Speaker 3: Didn't tell anyone I was watching it. I just watched 444 00:18:42,224 --> 00:18:46,784 Speaker 3: it's single behavior in the pitch meeting this morning, because yes, 445 00:18:46,864 --> 00:18:50,384 Speaker 3: we do pitch these every morning. LB was like, anyway, 446 00:18:50,424 --> 00:18:52,264 Speaker 3: so like night Bitches finally out in Australia and I 447 00:18:52,384 --> 00:18:53,864 Speaker 3: literally stood up from my seat and. 448 00:18:53,984 --> 00:18:55,664 Speaker 2: Was like, I watched that last night. 449 00:18:55,664 --> 00:18:57,024 Speaker 3: It was the best thing I've ever seen in my 450 00:18:57,104 --> 00:18:58,744 Speaker 3: entire life. I need to talk about it immediately. 451 00:18:58,944 --> 00:19:01,184 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting again that you're saying that's the best thing, 452 00:19:01,184 --> 00:19:04,224 Speaker 1: because I have I did love it, and obviously October 453 00:19:04,304 --> 00:19:05,744 Speaker 1: last year and I watched a lot of movies and 454 00:19:05,744 --> 00:19:08,024 Speaker 1: I haven't stopped thinking about that controversial I thought. 455 00:19:07,904 --> 00:19:10,304 Speaker 2: Yeah, better than the book. Interesting. 456 00:19:10,504 --> 00:19:14,064 Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved Amy adams performance in this She was incredible. 457 00:19:14,064 --> 00:19:15,704 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get into that before we get into 458 00:19:15,744 --> 00:19:18,224 Speaker 1: why it's a little bit muddy in some areas for 459 00:19:18,264 --> 00:19:20,904 Speaker 1: some people. Apparently not you, You're a huge fan. So in 460 00:19:20,944 --> 00:19:23,664 Speaker 1: the book, Amy Adams plays a woman who used to 461 00:19:23,664 --> 00:19:25,384 Speaker 1: live with this kind of very big life in New York. 462 00:19:25,464 --> 00:19:27,664 Speaker 1: She was an artist, very successful. She met her husband, 463 00:19:27,664 --> 00:19:30,944 Speaker 1: they fell madly in love, wild sex, got married, all 464 00:19:30,984 --> 00:19:33,024 Speaker 1: that sort of things, and then they had what is 465 00:19:33,104 --> 00:19:34,984 Speaker 1: meant to be the life that we all aspire to. 466 00:19:35,384 --> 00:19:37,744 Speaker 1: They moved to the suburbs, they bought a big, beautiful house, 467 00:19:37,784 --> 00:19:39,584 Speaker 1: and they had a very cute baby, a little boy, 468 00:19:40,184 --> 00:19:43,424 Speaker 1: and then you sort of see the reality of Amy 469 00:19:43,424 --> 00:19:46,304 Speaker 1: Adams's life is that she feels like she's completely lost 470 00:19:46,344 --> 00:19:49,184 Speaker 1: herself in motherhood. Her husband travels a lot for work, 471 00:19:49,224 --> 00:19:51,144 Speaker 1: so he's off like living his life and traveling and 472 00:19:51,184 --> 00:19:52,904 Speaker 1: talking to her, and he's away for like weeks at 473 00:19:52,904 --> 00:19:54,984 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, and she's just at home with their todd, Lauren. 474 00:19:55,024 --> 00:19:56,624 Speaker 1: She doesn't really have any friends. She doesn't fit in 475 00:19:56,664 --> 00:19:59,024 Speaker 1: with the mum group and all her other fancy friends 476 00:19:59,064 --> 00:20:01,384 Speaker 1: in New York. And in this art world and don't 477 00:20:01,384 --> 00:20:02,984 Speaker 1: really want to talk to her, and she just feels 478 00:20:03,024 --> 00:20:06,984 Speaker 1: completely lost and alone, exhausted, disgusting, all those things. 479 00:20:07,024 --> 00:20:10,064 Speaker 2: If you don't have children, you will not want them. 480 00:20:10,064 --> 00:20:10,984 Speaker 2: After watching this. 481 00:20:11,104 --> 00:20:13,984 Speaker 1: Man Interesting at the end of the movie told a 482 00:20:13,984 --> 00:20:17,064 Speaker 1: different stance. So those themes I think maybe just because 483 00:20:17,064 --> 00:20:18,584 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't have kids, both of us, unless 484 00:20:18,584 --> 00:20:20,384 Speaker 1: you've got some hidden somewhere you haven't told me about. 485 00:20:20,664 --> 00:20:22,984 Speaker 1: But I think I don't know, since the topic for 486 00:20:22,984 --> 00:20:26,984 Speaker 1: another of us. I think working in women's media, these 487 00:20:27,104 --> 00:20:29,544 Speaker 1: themes something that have been talked about so much and 488 00:20:29,544 --> 00:20:31,184 Speaker 1: that we've sort of had to just you know, we've 489 00:20:31,184 --> 00:20:33,224 Speaker 1: been around for so long. They don't feel new, but 490 00:20:33,264 --> 00:20:35,304 Speaker 1: they are always something that needs to be explored because 491 00:20:35,704 --> 00:20:38,064 Speaker 1: that's an element I think of motherhood that would ring 492 00:20:38,144 --> 00:20:42,544 Speaker 1: true for anyone, depending on no matter what your circumstances are. 493 00:20:42,544 --> 00:20:45,344 Speaker 1: Obviously it hits harder for others than some, but that 494 00:20:45,464 --> 00:20:47,864 Speaker 1: idea of losing your identity and being taken from this 495 00:20:47,984 --> 00:20:50,384 Speaker 1: life and everyone telling you this is the most magical 496 00:20:50,384 --> 00:20:52,264 Speaker 1: time of your life and you should be, you know, 497 00:20:52,344 --> 00:20:54,784 Speaker 1: appreciating it, and you being like I'm in hell. So 498 00:20:54,824 --> 00:20:57,184 Speaker 1: we really see that from Amy Adams and then do 499 00:20:57,184 --> 00:20:58,184 Speaker 1: you want to take the six bit. 500 00:20:58,344 --> 00:21:01,744 Speaker 3: Oh about her turning into a dog? Yeah, yes, that 501 00:21:01,944 --> 00:21:03,864 Speaker 3: was insane. I mean I kind of knew it was 502 00:21:03,864 --> 00:21:05,104 Speaker 3: going to happen because of the book. 503 00:21:05,384 --> 00:21:07,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also it's in the trailer and stuff like 504 00:21:07,344 --> 00:21:08,504 Speaker 1: they're not it's not a spoiler, it's. 505 00:21:08,344 --> 00:21:11,384 Speaker 3: Not a higher but it speaks too like I was 506 00:21:11,424 --> 00:21:14,184 Speaker 3: actually telling Elbe and I produced him this morning that 507 00:21:14,584 --> 00:21:18,064 Speaker 3: it's the first movie I watched about motherhood that I 508 00:21:18,304 --> 00:21:19,224 Speaker 3: actually loved. 509 00:21:19,544 --> 00:21:19,784 Speaker 2: Wow. 510 00:21:19,904 --> 00:21:22,264 Speaker 3: I've watched a lot of movies about monorhood, and this 511 00:21:22,344 --> 00:21:24,864 Speaker 3: is the one that actually stuck with me the most. 512 00:21:24,944 --> 00:21:27,864 Speaker 3: It's the one that I cannot stop thinking about because 513 00:21:27,984 --> 00:21:31,064 Speaker 3: it was just so raw and real and obviously her 514 00:21:31,144 --> 00:21:33,744 Speaker 3: turning into a dog, like, yes, she's physically turning into 515 00:21:33,744 --> 00:21:36,864 Speaker 3: a dog, but it also speaks to like how moms 516 00:21:36,864 --> 00:21:39,504 Speaker 3: are just meant to pretend that everything's okay and everything's 517 00:21:39,544 --> 00:21:41,144 Speaker 3: good and they love being a mum, and they love 518 00:21:41,264 --> 00:21:42,664 Speaker 3: they get to be on matt leave to take care 519 00:21:42,704 --> 00:21:44,624 Speaker 3: of their kids, and they love staying home so they 520 00:21:44,664 --> 00:21:47,464 Speaker 3: can like just like focus on helping their kid grow. 521 00:21:47,704 --> 00:21:50,864 Speaker 2: But it doesn't speak to like how it's actually. 522 00:21:50,544 --> 00:21:53,384 Speaker 3: Such a brutal job to have, like being a full 523 00:21:53,424 --> 00:21:56,584 Speaker 3: time parent is so so brutal, and how they can't 524 00:21:56,584 --> 00:21:58,984 Speaker 3: just let go and be like this feral beast that 525 00:21:59,024 --> 00:22:00,864 Speaker 3: they need to be in times where they need to 526 00:22:00,864 --> 00:22:03,504 Speaker 3: be it. And you just see like these certain scenes 527 00:22:03,504 --> 00:22:06,904 Speaker 3: of like her just eating like meat loaf with her hands, 528 00:22:07,104 --> 00:22:10,024 Speaker 3: or everyone in like the cafeterias like watching her like 529 00:22:10,064 --> 00:22:14,224 Speaker 3: these just like really raw scenes of I can so tell. 530 00:22:14,344 --> 00:22:15,864 Speaker 3: And I'm not a mother, but I can so tell 531 00:22:15,864 --> 00:22:17,784 Speaker 3: that there would be moments in a woman's life where 532 00:22:17,784 --> 00:22:19,824 Speaker 3: she just wants to let go and just be like, 533 00:22:20,144 --> 00:22:22,784 Speaker 3: this is really hard and it really sucks, and I 534 00:22:22,904 --> 00:22:25,224 Speaker 3: sometimes don't love my kid all the time, even though 535 00:22:25,264 --> 00:22:27,704 Speaker 3: I know I'm meant to. Yeah, And I've never seen 536 00:22:27,704 --> 00:22:30,384 Speaker 3: anything like that before, and it was just done so well. 537 00:22:30,744 --> 00:22:33,064 Speaker 3: And she has like these kind of monologue moments where 538 00:22:33,504 --> 00:22:35,984 Speaker 3: she breaks the fourth wall and says what she really 539 00:22:35,984 --> 00:22:38,384 Speaker 3: wants to say, and then it like reverses and then 540 00:22:38,424 --> 00:22:39,784 Speaker 3: she says what she actually. 541 00:22:39,464 --> 00:22:40,864 Speaker 2: Says, yeah, and it's done. 542 00:22:41,024 --> 00:22:43,384 Speaker 3: Oh, I just can't it's so hard to describe, but 543 00:22:43,984 --> 00:22:45,984 Speaker 3: I was watching it and then I just sat there 544 00:22:46,144 --> 00:22:49,984 Speaker 3: after finished, staring at the blank screen for so long, 545 00:22:50,424 --> 00:22:52,984 Speaker 3: like I couldn't believe. And also I was quite nervous 546 00:22:52,984 --> 00:22:55,424 Speaker 3: to watch it because the book was really well done 547 00:22:55,464 --> 00:22:57,584 Speaker 3: and it speaks in these big metaphors, and I was like, 548 00:22:57,584 --> 00:22:58,424 Speaker 3: I don't know how they're going. 549 00:22:58,424 --> 00:23:01,464 Speaker 2: To convey this on screen. And I think Amy Adams 550 00:23:01,504 --> 00:23:02,544 Speaker 2: absolutely killed it. 551 00:23:02,584 --> 00:23:05,384 Speaker 1: Oh, she was amazing. And also something about watching the movie, 552 00:23:05,424 --> 00:23:06,784 Speaker 1: which is maybe why you thought it was better than 553 00:23:06,824 --> 00:23:09,024 Speaker 1: the book, is because it's so much of it does 554 00:23:09,104 --> 00:23:12,144 Speaker 1: lend itself to being the very visual in a way 555 00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:14,224 Speaker 1: that obviously in a book you imagine in your head 556 00:23:14,264 --> 00:23:16,104 Speaker 1: and it's very descriptive. But I thought something there was 557 00:23:16,104 --> 00:23:18,824 Speaker 1: like something very visceral about watching her body, because some 558 00:23:18,864 --> 00:23:20,544 Speaker 1: of it is almost like a little bit body horror 559 00:23:20,624 --> 00:23:22,784 Speaker 1: in a way. But also I think goes to show that, 560 00:23:22,824 --> 00:23:24,984 Speaker 1: like after you've given birth and while you're still breastfitting 561 00:23:25,024 --> 00:23:26,824 Speaker 1: a baby, your body is not your own and can 562 00:23:26,984 --> 00:23:30,104 Speaker 1: change in different ways, which we see explored on a 563 00:23:30,184 --> 00:23:32,504 Speaker 1: very kind of over the top level. When she starts 564 00:23:32,544 --> 00:23:35,224 Speaker 1: growing a tail. That scene, I was like, oh my god, 565 00:23:35,264 --> 00:23:37,144 Speaker 1: Like I knew it was coming obviously, but it was 566 00:23:37,224 --> 00:23:39,264 Speaker 1: very intense. Also, when she comes out of the shower 567 00:23:39,304 --> 00:23:40,984 Speaker 1: for the first time, she opens her shirt moment, and 568 00:23:41,024 --> 00:23:43,784 Speaker 1: all the nipples because parts of her body start transforming 569 00:23:43,784 --> 00:23:46,504 Speaker 1: into a dog before she herself fully starts transforming into 570 00:23:46,504 --> 00:23:48,824 Speaker 1: a dog and running free at night before going back 571 00:23:48,864 --> 00:23:51,224 Speaker 1: to a human during the day. And so you see 572 00:23:51,264 --> 00:23:53,984 Speaker 1: all of her like throbbing nipples all down her body 573 00:23:53,984 --> 00:23:56,544 Speaker 1: because her body's transforming as if she has to feed 574 00:23:56,584 --> 00:23:57,464 Speaker 1: a litter of puppies. 575 00:23:57,664 --> 00:23:59,704 Speaker 3: And it's only when she gets transformed into a dog 576 00:23:59,744 --> 00:24:02,704 Speaker 3: that she feel like fully free. Yeah, but she'll always 577 00:24:02,744 --> 00:24:04,824 Speaker 3: still be a mum, like she'll that's like her main. 578 00:24:04,664 --> 00:24:06,944 Speaker 1: Thing, yeah, exactly, And so her body's been taken away 579 00:24:06,944 --> 00:24:08,744 Speaker 1: from her, but she also finds power in it, which 580 00:24:08,744 --> 00:24:09,424 Speaker 1: I think is kind of this. 581 00:24:09,624 --> 00:24:12,344 Speaker 3: The scene I really was when she's lying on the 582 00:24:12,344 --> 00:24:14,104 Speaker 3: cat and it was like a literally zo point two 583 00:24:14,224 --> 00:24:17,464 Speaker 3: second scene that probably everyone might have missed. But she 584 00:24:17,544 --> 00:24:20,064 Speaker 3: was lying on the couch after like her kid had 585 00:24:20,104 --> 00:24:22,424 Speaker 3: gone to bed, and the cat came and jomp next 586 00:24:22,424 --> 00:24:24,384 Speaker 3: to her, and she pushed the cat down and she's said, sorry, 587 00:24:24,424 --> 00:24:26,104 Speaker 3: I just can't have anything touching me right now. 588 00:24:26,184 --> 00:24:29,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, oh, I just felt that. 589 00:24:29,304 --> 00:24:31,544 Speaker 3: And then when her husband was like trying to insinuate 590 00:24:31,544 --> 00:24:33,064 Speaker 3: should we have sex and she's like, no, I fucking 591 00:24:33,104 --> 00:24:33,464 Speaker 3: hate that. 592 00:24:33,704 --> 00:24:38,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like absolutely touch One of my favorite scenes, 593 00:24:38,184 --> 00:24:39,824 Speaker 1: and it was so funny because I watched it at 594 00:24:39,824 --> 00:24:41,984 Speaker 1: a film festival, so it was a packed crowd and 595 00:24:42,024 --> 00:24:44,904 Speaker 1: everyone gasped like in horror at this one stage. And 596 00:24:44,944 --> 00:24:47,224 Speaker 1: it wasn't the body morphing stuff or when she's like 597 00:24:47,504 --> 00:24:49,184 Speaker 1: eating the raw meat, or when she kills some of 598 00:24:49,184 --> 00:24:51,104 Speaker 1: the animals or anything that that. It was the part 599 00:24:51,144 --> 00:24:53,424 Speaker 1: when she and her husband having an argument. She's like, 600 00:24:53,464 --> 00:24:55,944 Speaker 1: I'm stuck here all day and you don't understand. And 601 00:24:55,984 --> 00:24:57,744 Speaker 1: then he snaps back at her and he was like, 602 00:24:58,024 --> 00:25:02,024 Speaker 1: I married this interesting, smart, creative woman and now you're 603 00:25:02,104 --> 00:25:04,384 Speaker 1: just nothing. You just sit around the house and complain 604 00:25:04,384 --> 00:25:08,264 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, sir, how dare you? But also I thought, like, 605 00:25:08,464 --> 00:25:10,984 Speaker 1: not that he's right, but like in movie, you're supposed 606 00:25:10,984 --> 00:25:13,144 Speaker 1: to show real human emotion. Everyone's not meant to say 607 00:25:13,144 --> 00:25:16,264 Speaker 1: the politically correct thing, and it showed this man what 608 00:25:16,384 --> 00:25:18,784 Speaker 1: he was thinking. He was like, I married this wild, 609 00:25:18,784 --> 00:25:20,784 Speaker 1: beautiful artist, and I come home and now she just 610 00:25:21,224 --> 00:25:23,904 Speaker 1: looks terrible. Like this is what he's saying. He looks terrible, 611 00:25:24,184 --> 00:25:27,024 Speaker 1: has no conversation, doesn't ask me about my day, has 612 00:25:27,024 --> 00:25:28,904 Speaker 1: nothing to tell me because every day I come back 613 00:25:28,904 --> 00:25:31,144 Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm tired. He didn't sleep, that's it. 614 00:25:31,464 --> 00:25:33,064 Speaker 1: And you see them have this kind of fight and 615 00:25:33,064 --> 00:25:34,264 Speaker 1: you're just like, that is such a real fan. 616 00:25:34,384 --> 00:25:35,624 Speaker 2: I feel it was so. 617 00:25:35,464 --> 00:25:37,904 Speaker 1: That it's one thing you're not supposed to say, and 618 00:25:37,944 --> 00:25:39,744 Speaker 1: he said it and it kind of set them off. 619 00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:41,744 Speaker 3: And like she ended it so well where he was like, 620 00:25:41,744 --> 00:25:44,504 Speaker 3: what happened to her? And she said she died during childbirth? 621 00:25:44,744 --> 00:25:46,104 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, oh. 622 00:25:46,824 --> 00:25:48,024 Speaker 2: She put him in his place. 623 00:25:48,224 --> 00:25:50,624 Speaker 1: Well, you're saying about Amy Adams is that she is incredible. 624 00:25:50,704 --> 00:25:53,544 Speaker 1: And the interesting thing is, like any other year she 625 00:25:53,584 --> 00:25:54,624 Speaker 1: would have won an Oscar for this. 626 00:25:54,624 --> 00:25:55,384 Speaker 2: Why didn't she? 627 00:25:55,504 --> 00:25:58,504 Speaker 1: Like it's just too stacked, as we've been saying over 628 00:25:58,544 --> 00:26:02,824 Speaker 1: and it was insane, I know. And also she's one 629 00:26:02,864 --> 00:26:05,544 Speaker 1: of those actresses who almost wins it so many times, 630 00:26:05,544 --> 00:26:07,504 Speaker 1: like so many times she's been so close. So she's 631 00:26:07,504 --> 00:26:10,944 Speaker 1: been nominated for an Academy Award six times already. Each 632 00:26:10,984 --> 00:26:13,224 Speaker 1: time everyone's like, next time is going to be her year, 633 00:26:13,224 --> 00:26:14,504 Speaker 1: because you know what kind of builds up with the 634 00:26:14,504 --> 00:26:16,464 Speaker 1: Academy and eventually you just get it for a movie 635 00:26:16,464 --> 00:26:18,624 Speaker 1: where they're like, this is for your like Jamie Lue 636 00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:20,624 Speaker 1: Curtis in the last few years, or you know, like 637 00:26:20,624 --> 00:26:22,304 Speaker 1: a Reese with a Spooner or Sandra Bullock. There's so 638 00:26:22,304 --> 00:26:24,704 Speaker 1: many where you kind of just eventually get one for 639 00:26:24,784 --> 00:26:27,424 Speaker 1: a movie that was fine, but it's more so like 640 00:26:27,464 --> 00:26:29,824 Speaker 1: here's one for your whole career. But the thing about 641 00:26:29,944 --> 00:26:31,624 Speaker 1: Night Bitch is like it could have just also won 642 00:26:31,664 --> 00:26:34,344 Speaker 1: her own Oscar, So all signs were pushing towards it. 643 00:26:34,544 --> 00:26:36,104 Speaker 1: This was the year she was gonna win. And then 644 00:26:36,104 --> 00:26:38,264 Speaker 1: the movie just got knocked out by like The Substance 645 00:26:38,304 --> 00:26:41,624 Speaker 1: and Anora and Wicked, and there's just too many other 646 00:26:41,704 --> 00:26:44,064 Speaker 1: movies out there that got too much public traction and 647 00:26:44,224 --> 00:26:46,104 Speaker 1: Night Bitch kind of just got a bit forgotten, and 648 00:26:46,144 --> 00:26:48,304 Speaker 1: so she didn't get nominated at all, and everyone thought 649 00:26:48,344 --> 00:26:49,664 Speaker 1: she was definitely going a win for it. 650 00:26:49,744 --> 00:26:51,584 Speaker 2: Like, well, maybe we should do the press tool for. 651 00:26:52,864 --> 00:26:55,064 Speaker 1: A year after it's come out. I will just say 652 00:26:55,104 --> 00:26:56,984 Speaker 1: quarly won't obviously won't spoil it because we want you 653 00:26:57,024 --> 00:26:58,504 Speaker 1: all to go to Disney Plus and watch it. And 654 00:26:58,544 --> 00:27:00,424 Speaker 1: I just think everyone how I've talked to has had 655 00:27:00,424 --> 00:27:03,304 Speaker 1: a very different opinion. Some people like you absolutely love it. 656 00:27:03,504 --> 00:27:06,184 Speaker 1: Some people like me just like found it a very 657 00:27:06,264 --> 00:27:09,224 Speaker 1: visceral movie experience and both loved and hated it. 658 00:27:09,464 --> 00:27:11,544 Speaker 3: Which is also really same with the book. I feel 659 00:27:11,584 --> 00:27:13,104 Speaker 3: like if you read the book, you either love it 660 00:27:13,224 --> 00:27:13,744 Speaker 3: or you hate it. 661 00:27:13,824 --> 00:27:15,304 Speaker 1: I thought the ending was a cop out. That's all 662 00:27:15,304 --> 00:27:17,784 Speaker 1: I'll say. I won't spoil the ending, okay, but I 663 00:27:17,824 --> 00:27:19,864 Speaker 1: thought like we really were building to something and then 664 00:27:19,904 --> 00:27:21,784 Speaker 1: it kind of just peters. It's like it tries to 665 00:27:21,824 --> 00:27:24,624 Speaker 1: say something really interesting about motherhood, and it does in 666 00:27:24,624 --> 00:27:26,424 Speaker 1: so many ways, but it kind of drops the ball. 667 00:27:26,504 --> 00:27:27,384 Speaker 1: The end was my thought. 668 00:27:27,784 --> 00:27:29,464 Speaker 2: I agree with you with that tape. 669 00:27:29,504 --> 00:27:30,104 Speaker 1: Oh interesting. 670 00:27:30,144 --> 00:27:33,224 Speaker 3: I think I also think it should have ended way 671 00:27:33,304 --> 00:27:36,624 Speaker 3: before that, right, I think it should have ended as 672 00:27:36,664 --> 00:27:38,664 Speaker 3: like I don't know if I can say it, but 673 00:27:38,784 --> 00:27:41,544 Speaker 3: like when we find out that she's like becomes a 674 00:27:41,584 --> 00:27:43,904 Speaker 3: dog essentially, I think. 675 00:27:43,784 --> 00:27:46,784 Speaker 1: That I missed so much of the story then, Yeah. 676 00:27:46,664 --> 00:27:49,304 Speaker 3: I think you miss like a whole part about like 677 00:27:49,344 --> 00:27:51,744 Speaker 3: what happens to a relationship twenty end and stuff. But 678 00:27:51,784 --> 00:27:53,344 Speaker 3: I also feel like we didn't need it. 679 00:27:53,744 --> 00:27:55,384 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that we're trying to say the end, 680 00:27:55,424 --> 00:27:56,384 Speaker 1: like don't worry, like. 681 00:27:57,344 --> 00:28:00,024 Speaker 3: The end, but I'm like, sometimes it doesn't, and like 682 00:28:00,064 --> 00:28:03,144 Speaker 3: throughout the whole, like first half three quarters of the movie, 683 00:28:03,624 --> 00:28:05,824 Speaker 3: it feels like it shouldn't work out, and I kind 684 00:28:05,864 --> 00:28:07,784 Speaker 3: of wish they ended it with it. 685 00:28:08,104 --> 00:28:09,544 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it is this 686 00:28:09,664 --> 00:28:12,584 Speaker 1: idea that is the greatest thing you could possibly ever do, 687 00:28:12,984 --> 00:28:14,744 Speaker 1: and again, not a new idea, and I'm sure a 688 00:28:14,744 --> 00:28:16,984 Speaker 1: lot of people have gone through it would definitely think that, 689 00:28:17,024 --> 00:28:18,784 Speaker 1: and I think there's definitely room to have that be 690 00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:20,984 Speaker 1: the story. But there was also this, I don't know, 691 00:28:21,104 --> 00:28:23,144 Speaker 1: I felt like they kind of they kind of looked 692 00:28:23,184 --> 00:28:25,144 Speaker 1: at the possibility of being a bit subversive, and then 693 00:28:25,144 --> 00:28:27,024 Speaker 1: they backed it up a little and made it a 694 00:28:27,024 --> 00:28:29,064 Speaker 1: bit more clean cut. But it's still a great movie. 695 00:28:29,104 --> 00:28:31,744 Speaker 1: It's on Disney plast night. Bitch. Please guys go and 696 00:28:31,784 --> 00:28:33,424 Speaker 1: watch it and then love us know what you think. Yes, 697 00:28:33,464 --> 00:28:36,024 Speaker 1: please be so interested in people's reaction to this movie. 698 00:28:36,144 --> 00:28:38,624 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today. 699 00:28:38,704 --> 00:28:41,224 Speaker 3: If you haven't listened to any of our recent episodes, 700 00:28:41,304 --> 00:28:44,744 Speaker 3: we did on Friday the best music biopics of all time. 701 00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:48,264 Speaker 3: After we did our little review on a Complete Unknown, 702 00:28:48,304 --> 00:28:52,224 Speaker 3: which way had completely different opinions on. We will put 703 00:28:52,224 --> 00:28:54,184 Speaker 3: a link to that in our show notes. The Spill 704 00:28:54,264 --> 00:28:57,104 Speaker 3: is produced by Kimberly Bradish with sound production by Scott Stronik, 705 00:28:57,144 --> 00:28:59,104 Speaker 3: and we'll be back in your podcast feed at three 706 00:28:59,144 --> 00:29:00,104 Speaker 3: pm tomorrow. 707 00:29:00,224 --> 00:29:06,104 Speaker 1: Bye bye Lan.