Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mom and mea podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to mum me are out loud.
Speaker 3: I am Jesse Stevens, I'm Holly Waynwright, I'm Amelia Lastov
Speaker 3: and I'm a Burnham.
Speaker 2: And this is part two of our very very special
Speaker 2: treat for you. It is our best recommendations of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five. We had so many favorites. Some are you,
Speaker 2: some you may have heard. Bring up. We've also got
Speaker 2: Amelia who often isn't here on a Friday and so
Speaker 2: has a bank of banger recommendations from what to do,
Speaker 2: what to buy, what to read, what to watch. First up,
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the best TV show of
Speaker 2: the year. Holly, you go first, because I co sign
Speaker 2: your best TV show ever the year.
Speaker 4: My favorite TV show of the year.
Speaker 3: I did mention this on the show, but you know,
Speaker 3: I learned a lesson because I didn't recommend it because
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it's finished, because it's one of
Speaker 3: those shows that goes with and then I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: but everybody just watches it on catch up. But I
Speaker 3: thought like, oh, they'll know what the answer is because anyway,
Speaker 3: I digressed. The most fun I've had on TV this
Speaker 3: year is the UK celebrity Traders.
Speaker 1: Maybe I have got a dark side. I'm here to win.
Speaker 4: I don't know what bas lie within me. I'm going
Speaker 4: to fight till a death.
Speaker 1: Players. Welcome to the Highlands.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 5: Now I know out in the real world you're very
Speaker 5: important and successful, but here there is no special treatment.
Speaker 5: Traders remain undetected and murder.
Speaker 4: The faithful is an faithful.
Speaker 5: You must hunt down the traders.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I want to be Oh God.
Speaker 2: Have you two watched it?
Speaker 4: I've watched on my TikTok. I hate interesting, Amelia.
Speaker 1: I need you to sell it to me. It sounds boring.
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought it's sound of boring too. I am
Speaker 2: so late to this party, but it has taken over
Speaker 2: my life. Holly, please heel.
Speaker 4: It is so great.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if you're familiar with Traders. It's
Speaker 3: a reality TV genre, but it's basically a show. The
Speaker 3: British one is set in the Scottish Castle. They take
Speaker 3: a lot of people up to be in the castle
Speaker 3: nineteen people in this instance, and they pick some of them.
Speaker 4: To be traders.
Speaker 3: Right, so you think of a game of Mafia or like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: so their rest of them are faithfuls. You have tasks
Speaker 3: you have to complete on different days and all those things,
Speaker 3: but at the end of every day you have to
Speaker 3: guess who the traders are, and everybody has to vote
Speaker 3: someone off, and then the traders, if they don't get
Speaker 3: voted off, get rid of somebody too. They murder them,
Speaker 3: so every day you get rid of two. Now this
Speaker 3: version is the celebrity version, obviously the UK celebrity version.
Speaker 3: A lot of people that you might not know, but
Speaker 3: also people you definitely will know, like Stephen Fry, like
Speaker 3: Celia Emery, really amazing A listers, and the host is
Speaker 3: fabulous Claudia Wink when she's so good. It's like high
Speaker 3: camp amazing values. But it became a sensation in Britain
Speaker 3: this particular season that just took over everything, and now
Speaker 3: it's being used as a blueprint of like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: it's brought linear television back to life. Because it was
Speaker 3: on only once a week. It always stops on these
Speaker 3: amazing cliffhangers, and they were like, how are we going
Speaker 3: to get gen Z to wait that long to watch
Speaker 3: the next one?
Speaker 4: But they did, So is it good?
Speaker 1: Because it's suspenseful of funny, or all of the able.
Speaker 4: All of the above. It's suspenseful.
Speaker 3: It's funny family viewing too, it's one hundred percent family viewing.
Speaker 3: You can watch it with anybody in your family. But
Speaker 3: it's just such fun. And so when I say I
Speaker 3: thought it was finished, it's because obviously in Britain this
Speaker 3: was an obsession. And so when it was over, who
Speaker 3: won and everything's all over the internet and I.
Speaker 2: Still haven't said, and you still don't know.
Speaker 3: And so if you've managed to avoid that, it's still
Speaker 3: really fun to watch, and you can watch it on
Speaker 3: catch up.
Speaker 4: It's on ten. Anyway, I just had a ball, and what.
Speaker 2: I loved about it was that so it's got heaps
Speaker 2: of comedians and actors and whatever. Often on reality shows
Speaker 2: they're all trying to outcompete each other with how funny
Speaker 2: they are. This is like they are so serious and
Speaker 2: so competitive and so in it, like they are living
Speaker 2: in this castle. My theory is that games are coming
Speaker 2: back in a big way. I went to a murder
Speaker 2: Mystery night this year, Mafia. We play lots of games.
Speaker 2: I've been doing escape rooms, adults playing games, traction right,
Speaker 2: it's crazy it's distraction.
Speaker 3: And although I agree with you that it's not an
Speaker 3: outfunning each other, there are some people on it who
Speaker 3: understand the premise a bit better. As Marina Heidelwer says,
Speaker 3: she's like, there's some of them who understand that they
Speaker 3: are an entertainment booking and this is an entertainment show,
Speaker 3: so be entertaining, please, and some who.
Speaker 4: Don't seem to get that at all, and they're just
Speaker 4: they're like.
Speaker 3: I'm a show of this mystery and it's just it's
Speaker 3: very fun.
Speaker 4: So there's that I'm just gonna throw in really quickly.
Speaker 3: Also, I thought four Seasons on Netflix was really fun,
Speaker 3: which is the one about the group of adult friends
Speaker 3: who go away together.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad to do you like that.
Speaker 3: But you know, I think one of my criteria this year,
Speaker 3: unlike Jesse who loves to watch really depressing documentaries, is
Speaker 3: I just want entertainment. One of the main criteria for
Speaker 3: Brent and now when we're looking for a show to
Speaker 3: watch together is not too long, not too stressful. And
Speaker 3: although some things, of course get through that, like we're
Speaker 3: loving Stranger Things and all that stuff, that's one of
Speaker 3: those shows. It's not dumb but it's distracting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna throw in just to springboard off the
Speaker 2: Celebrity Traders Taskmaster and it's hit and miss. Sometimes some
Speaker 2: series aren't great, but I'd really like the UK version
Speaker 2: of task Master and the Australian version I have actually loved.
Speaker 3: Pick up all twenty six flowers and deliver them to
Speaker 3: Tom's VARs.
Speaker 7: You may only advance to collect the next flower when
Speaker 7: you correctly guess that flowers password.
Speaker 3: You must deliver all twenty six flowers to Tom's vas
Speaker 3: or you will be disqualified. Fewest total attempts to guess
Speaker 3: a password wins.
Speaker 4: Fewest total okay.
Speaker 1: Password, accept that password.
Speaker 4: Open, sesame.
Speaker 2: Come on in bomb Calm Gleason is a long boy
Speaker 2: fish butterfly and the other one is last one laughing.
Speaker 2: The UK version where they throw comedians in a room
Speaker 2: together and the job is not to laugh.
Speaker 4: And I've seen that on TikTok as well.
Speaker 3: Yes, myeer my teenagers loved that. We ended up watching
Speaker 3: some of the American ones. In the New Zealand ones.
Speaker 2: It's really really good. So the snippets are brilliant. The
Speaker 2: social strategy has been incredible, but I promise it is
Speaker 2: worth watching the season.
Speaker 4: It's fantastic.
Speaker 2: M What is your television show recommendation for this year?
Speaker 7: Okay, my favorite TV show this year is probably the
Speaker 7: show that just made me laugh the most, and it's
Speaker 7: The Studio on Apple TV.
Speaker 6: Yes, being the head of Continental is the only job
Speaker 6: I've ever wanted honored obviously to be one of the people.
Speaker 6: I guess it's a choose you know, which movies get
Speaker 6: made and which ones don't. That's that's huge. And I
Speaker 6: got into all this because you know, I love movies,
Speaker 6: but now I have this fear it. My job is
Speaker 6: to ruin them. The job as a meat grinder.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 7: So it's created and stars seth Rogen it's about he
Speaker 7: plays like this big Hollywood studio owner and his whole
Speaker 7: job is to try to get people to still be
Speaker 7: excited about movies. And it's done in one of those
Speaker 7: like one pan shots, so every episode is just one
Speaker 7: shot and it's so so funny. He gets a bunch
Speaker 7: of celebrities on different episodes and they play themselves and
Speaker 7: it's just really funny and clever TV. I've shown this
Speaker 7: show to everyone, and each episode is kind of a
Speaker 7: standalone itself. The one episode I always make everyone watch
Speaker 7: in front of me is the one shot episode with
Speaker 7: Greta Lee. She is herself is filming a one shot
Speaker 7: scene and she's playing Greta Lee, and Seth Throgan's character
Speaker 7: just comes in and messes it up for them over
Speaker 7: and over and over again, and the whole TV show
Speaker 7: is also in one shot. It's just done so well
Speaker 7: on the floor laughing.
Speaker 2: It is so so accurate to the intry and kind
Speaker 2: of the commercial concerns.
Speaker 4: And the upfronts. It's just so it's so funny.
Speaker 3: I'm very la I always just think how expensive that
Speaker 3: show must be to make because it's got all the
Speaker 3: most famous people in Hollywood in it. They're in mansions,
Speaker 3: it's the real estate. Yeah, it's really Yeah, it's really
Speaker 3: well done. But I also want to quickly break the
Speaker 3: rules a little bit and recommend another movie that I
Speaker 3: did get to recommend last episode.
Speaker 7: It's so underrated. Not enough people are talking about it.
Speaker 7: It's called One of Them Days. I saw it in
Speaker 7: the cinema. It's now out on prime video. It was
Speaker 7: created by Isa Ray and it stars what she was
Speaker 7: up to. Oh my god, this movie is so funny because.
Speaker 1: Her show Insecure was one of my.
Speaker 7: Favorite It was one of my favorite shows, and like
Speaker 7: the humor from that is in this movie. So it
Speaker 7: stars siss and Kiki Palmer. They play roommates and it's
Speaker 7: just one of those like physical comedies. They have to
Speaker 7: pay rent by the end of the day and they
Speaker 7: have no money at all, and they just go on
Speaker 7: this mad adventure around just like getting involved in the worst.
Speaker 4: Kind of people.
Speaker 7: It is really really funny, and I really hate that
Speaker 7: not everyone saw it, but it's so good and their
Speaker 7: pressed to her for it was so funny as well. Oh,
Speaker 7: I'm going to watch It's amazing.
Speaker 2: How about you, Amelia?
Speaker 1: So my recommendation is The Beast in Me? Has anyone
Speaker 1: watched this on Netflix? Claire Danes and Matthew Reese from
Speaker 1: The Americans, and I just love both those actors.
Speaker 6: Why are you here?
Speaker 4: Did you kill her? What do you think?
Speaker 6: Niall?
Speaker 4: Jarvis moved down the street from me.
Speaker 7: Maybe my next book should be about him.
Speaker 4: Oh the world thinks I know what happened, but I
Speaker 4: didn't kill my wife. People just want gossip and carnage.
Speaker 1: You want to be relegitimized.
Speaker 4: I can offer a new.
Speaker 1: Narrative I'm going to roll the dice on you.
Speaker 4: Well right then, don't let me down.
Speaker 1: It's about a riser who plays a cash and mouse
Speaker 1: game with a mysterious and possibly murderous billionaire. Need I
Speaker 1: say more? I mean it's literally perfect. It's a psychological thriller.
Speaker 1: I love psychological thrillers. It's not too scary. You could
Speaker 1: watch it by yourself. I have, and I'm a scaredy cat.
Speaker 1: But it's just gripping and great. And my quick second
Speaker 1: recommendation is South Park, which is on ten play, which
Speaker 1: is doing the best political satire in the whole world
Speaker 1: right now about Trump and all of his cronies.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that. I love that. Up after the break,
Speaker 2: we will be doing our favorite beauty products and we
Speaker 2: will also be throwing in some extra book recommendations.
Speaker 4: Clearly we could all talk about beauty things for age
Speaker 4: books and beauty like things we can.
Speaker 3: Talk about for a long time because we're going again
Speaker 3: with beauty after last week's rykos.
Speaker 4: Who wants to go first?
Speaker 1: I'm going to go first because this one's big. So
Speaker 1: I've mentioned that this year I revamped my makeup and
Speaker 1: this actually began because I noticed young people like m
Speaker 1: vernon looking beautiful with dark lipliner and then a slightly
Speaker 1: less dark lipstick.
Speaker 2: This tip changed how I did my makeup, please, and.
Speaker 1: I just thought, why should they have all the fun? Yeah,
Speaker 1: why can't I do that?
Speaker 7: You can?
Speaker 2: So I did do that, and.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you that you put on your
Speaker 1: dark clipliner, you put on your barrel legg jeans, and
Speaker 1: you start to feel like you've got a new lease
Speaker 1: on life if you happen to be forty two. So
Speaker 1: the one that I love is Bobby Brown, because I
Speaker 1: mean really, Bobby Brown flipliner in rum Raisin.
Speaker 7: Can I say, I think that is the best shade
Speaker 7: in history?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel so vindicated.
Speaker 4: Genuinely, like it's the shade. I think.
Speaker 7: It's a shade that my mum used and then I
Speaker 7: used for the first time when I started wearing makeup,
Speaker 7: and I still.
Speaker 1: Use it to Okay, I'm so glad that you said that,
Speaker 1: because the way I found this is that I walked
Speaker 1: into a Sephora in the US. In Australia, Bobby Brown
Speaker 1: is at Mecca, and I said, I want to look
Speaker 1: young and I need darklipliner, and this very beautiful young
Speaker 1: person there said this is the one. So now two
Speaker 1: beautiful young people have verified that this is the one.
Speaker 4: I have questions because this sounds quite high level to me.
Speaker 1: No, it's so easy.
Speaker 3: How am I not going to look like I've put
Speaker 3: a felt on the outside.
Speaker 4: Of my lips.
Speaker 2: I'm going to speak for the fair among us, not
Speaker 2: for the we're blonde. We have to be careful, honey. Okay,
Speaker 2: we can't be going. I think if you've got darker hair,
Speaker 2: you can get away with more of a statement. We
Speaker 2: can go slightly dark.
Speaker 1: Honey, it's hard to be blonde. I get that.
Speaker 2: Yes, so you can do a pinky. I do lipliner
Speaker 2: every like and I feel like it keeps my lipstick in,
Speaker 2: but I do more of a pinky. We can't go
Speaker 2: to you, but I want.
Speaker 1: I want to challenge you, because pinky is our comfort zone.
Speaker 1: With respect, Jesse, pink is our comfort zone.
Speaker 2: We don't want to look like Westfhani.
Speaker 7: You guys should be doing like a rose pink.
Speaker 1: You've bridged the divide. It's like a dark And what
Speaker 1: I think is great is you can just work on
Speaker 1: a lip arm on top of it.
Speaker 7: Yes, and it blends in really well.
Speaker 3: So You're not coloring in your whole lip with the lipliner.
Speaker 3: You are lining your lips with the lip liner.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you can do some shading.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you don't color it? No, no, no, because the
Speaker 1: whole point is your middle to be bright.
Speaker 3: You did this in the nineties, Yeah, I did, but
Speaker 3: it didn't end well are you wearing?
Speaker 1: No? But it's great, Jesse. What have you got given that?
Speaker 1: You said that mine isn't going to work for you?
Speaker 1: What's going to work for you?
Speaker 2: So I went back and forth and then I went no, no, no.
Speaker 2: The best beauty recommendation and I'm stretching the thing a
Speaker 2: bit is my rashie and I'm bringing a rash, em
Speaker 2: bringing a rash because and we all know with chests,
Speaker 2: like I go to the beach now, with chests, they
Speaker 2: just they age faster than your face.
Speaker 4: You have a beautiful chest.
Speaker 2: I no, no, I already feel like I've gone pinky
Speaker 2: when I get to the beach. I try and do
Speaker 2: my back often like Luna and I will go. I
Speaker 2: can't do my back properly, right, very very stressful, very
Speaker 2: not good for the sun. Beauty is one thing. The
Speaker 2: other is skin cancer. Right, I got this rashy from
Speaker 2: a brand called Avali, which is a V A L y.
Speaker 2: It is not the rashy you have in your head.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have bluey on it. It is a tight
Speaker 2: sculpted crops. Don't look like I love it. It's pretty okay.
Speaker 7: No, I like the crop element.
Speaker 4: I've got a couple of long sleeves swimsuits.
Speaker 2: It's really cool and are we talking?
Speaker 1: It goes thunder boob crop.
Speaker 2: No like belly button, crop, high waist. I think I
Speaker 2: look like I'm in Blue Crush, the movie with.
Speaker 7: I'm feeling it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought that might get you now. It's long sleeves,
Speaker 2: really really good neckline, and it's made from this like
Speaker 2: ec friendly material sixty bucks life changing. I have it
Speaker 2: in like a green that I love. They also have
Speaker 2: really cute kids wetsuits that are made from sustainable stuff.
Speaker 2: But that I think has saved my chest from.
Speaker 3: Will allow it because also we don't have a fashion category,
Speaker 3: but we could have, couldn't we?
Speaker 4: So fashion slash beauty we could Okay, my.
Speaker 3: Last beauty recos because again we could go on all day,
Speaker 3: I recommended on the show. Speaking of Bobby Brown, as
Speaker 3: we were rom and Raisin the Jones Road Miracle Balm.
Speaker 3: I bought that and I didn't really know what to
Speaker 3: do with it, but I just knew I liked it.
Speaker 3: Now I know what to do with it. It's like
Speaker 3: you're getting in quite a big pot. Jones Road is
Speaker 3: Bobby Brown's new brand because she sold Bobby Brown and
Speaker 3: it's for.
Speaker 1: Like, and then she had years of non compete. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so she just had to open a hotel in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: And then finally ten years goes by and she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm studying.
Speaker 4: That, I'm ready, and here's Jones Road. Let's go. I
Speaker 4: never know what to do with a bar. Well, here's
Speaker 4: the thing is.
Speaker 3: So they come in different shades, and I've got one
Speaker 3: that's called Golden Glow and it's creamy, it's balmy, right, okay,
Speaker 3: it's shine and moisture, and it's like good for in
Speaker 3: those little creasy bits where you you know, you want
Speaker 3: to distract a bit from the creasy bits. So I've
Speaker 3: got like a clear one, and then I've also got
Speaker 3: like a bronzy one that is great when you're not
Speaker 3: really wearing makeup.
Speaker 4: So you've just got you, you know, your skin products
Speaker 4: and then you.
Speaker 3: Just do a big swoop here, maybe a little bit here,
Speaker 3: and it's just glowing and fabulous, and now I'm addicted.
Speaker 3: So I went from like I'm not sure what to
Speaker 3: do with this to being addicted. But I'm throwing in
Speaker 3: one extra one too, which is most hard working product
Speaker 3: in my bag. Everybody knows this product. It's the rosh
Speaker 3: pose Sis, a plastic balm.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, best.
Speaker 3: But everybody uses this usually when they fucked their skin barrier.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, like they like, I've got to recover. But
Speaker 3: what I've discovered about this, because that is how I
Speaker 3: also was introduced to this. I was introduced to it
Speaker 3: when I got a breakout of Rose Show once, because
Speaker 3: I don't get that all the time, but I do sometimes.
Speaker 3: Best thing for that, but also best save ever for
Speaker 3: you've got to go to an event or do a
Speaker 3: thing and it's in between work and you stick it
Speaker 3: on as a mask.
Speaker 4: Just do a big thick.
Speaker 3: Layer of it and then wipe it off with a
Speaker 3: tissue and then put your makeupon, and you have never.
Speaker 4: Glowed that much.
Speaker 3: I also use it for a heavy moisturizer to sleep
Speaker 3: in over like a red andol or some kind of exfoliant.
Speaker 4: So basically I use it like a really.
Speaker 3: Thick I mean, obviously it's thick and gloopy, that's the
Speaker 3: thing of it. So it's not like you're just whacking
Speaker 3: it on and walking out. But as a mask it's heaven.
Speaker 3: As an overnight sleep cream, it's great and of course
Speaker 3: it solves your problems. So it is now my favorite,
Speaker 3: most hard and it comes everywhere with.
Speaker 1: That's such a good tip.
Speaker 4: I love that so good links to all these things
Speaker 4: in the show. I'm sorry, mine, we've all.
Speaker 3: Been talking so much shows out our beauty records.
Speaker 7: Okay, mine is expensive, but I promise you it's worth it.
Speaker 7: It is the shark Flextile air styling.
Speaker 1: Oh I've heard this is like the new Dyson.
Speaker 7: Okay, it's the new Dicon and it's half the price
Speaker 7: it is. So it's one of those hair styling tools.
Speaker 7: I'm not a big hair person, Like I never really
Speaker 7: know what to do with my hair. I just blow
Speaker 7: dry it and then go about my day. And I
Speaker 7: just wanted everything in one which is basically what this is.
Speaker 7: So it comes in like this big wand and then
Speaker 7: you get all the attachments that you can attach to
Speaker 7: the top yeah, and it's like a hair dryer. You
Speaker 7: can use the brush as a straightener. You can use
Speaker 7: a curler to curl, and I don't use any other
Speaker 7: hair tool.
Speaker 4: I just use this one thing.
Speaker 2: Is it heat?
Speaker 7: It's heat it it's like hair heat. It's like similar
Speaker 7: to a dcon. So it blows hot air and then
Speaker 7: you get like a gush of cool and then your
Speaker 7: hair just stays like that forever.
Speaker 4: It is so good.
Speaker 1: And how heavy is it? Oh?
Speaker 4: It depends. How can you travel with it?
Speaker 7: You can so because it comes with all the attachments,
Speaker 7: So it has like the tiny base of it, which
Speaker 7: is like the big thing that's connected to the wall,
Speaker 7: and then you can just bring whatever attachment you want,
Speaker 7: so always bring like the hair dry attachment and like
Speaker 7: the brush attachment.
Speaker 4: So how much is it?
Speaker 7: It's two hundred and fifty dollars right now it's on
Speaker 7: sale because I wanted the dsin but it's just was
Speaker 7: way too expensive and this is literally half the price.
Speaker 4: Oh so good.
Speaker 3: Okay, we are going to be back with another blast
Speaker 3: of books after this break.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're back with some of our favorite books that
Speaker 1: we've read this year. And I have one that is
Speaker 1: extremely scandalous. You will not be able to put it down.
Speaker 1: It is called Ask Not the Kennedys and the Women
Speaker 1: They Destroyed by Maureen Callahan. More In Callahan is I
Speaker 1: think a sort of British tabloid journalist of some note
Speaker 1: who has in the past written at least for the
Speaker 1: Daily Mail. But this book is very scrupulously researched, and
Speaker 1: it's all about the girlfriends and wives that the Kennedy
Speaker 1: men destroyed. They destroyed their lives. It's really shocking. You
Speaker 1: can't really believe that this famous political dynasty, this storied
Speaker 1: group of men, did so many horrible things to the
Speaker 1: women in their lives. But it reminded me that history
Speaker 1: is a lot stranger and more interesting than sometimes I
Speaker 1: think it is because I don't normally read history books.
Speaker 1: There was something about this that was so gripping, so
Speaker 1: many just jaw dropping stories. It's the sort of book
Speaker 1: that you find yourself wanting to share the stories that
Speaker 1: you've read in it with your friends afterwards.
Speaker 4: I bet it's a good audio book.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Holly, what about you?
Speaker 3: Okay again, stiff competition for new books this year. I
Speaker 3: could have picked Claire. The worst thing I've ever done.
Speaker 3: I could have picked Mad Mabel by Sally. I could
Speaker 3: have picked Trent Dalton's Gravity Let Me Go, but let's
Speaker 3: face it, he gets enough press. So I have instead
Speaker 3: picked Lonely Mouth by Jacqueline Mayley because that isn't a
Speaker 3: book that you're seeing absolutely everywhere. But Jacqueline Mayley is
Speaker 3: an amazing journo. She works for The Herald and a
Speaker 3: very thoughtful writer. At her novel she released this year,
Speaker 3: it's called Lonely Mouth and it's about sisters. It's about
Speaker 3: eating disorders, it's about unrequited love, it's about family mess.
Speaker 4: But it is such a beautiful book.
Speaker 3: It is so beautifully written, and it follows this young
Speaker 3: woman who lives a very contained life. It's very set
Speaker 3: in Sydney. It's a very Sydney book. She works in
Speaker 3: a restaurant where she is brilliant and efficient front of house.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot about that food world too, and
Speaker 3: she has a mad crush on her boss, who's the chef.
Speaker 3: She also has a wayward sister and you find out,
Speaker 3: you know, why her sister is wayward and what happens
Speaker 3: when she comes back into her life. But really it's
Speaker 3: this beautiful exploration of this young woman who's trying to
Speaker 3: control every aspect of her life so tightly from what
Speaker 3: she eats. That's the eating disorder part of it. I
Speaker 3: guess to how she relates to everyone around her, and
Speaker 3: then what happens when all that starts to disintegrate. You know,
Speaker 3: when I was thinking about which book do I think
Speaker 3: about the most, and I said, in the last one,
Speaker 3: that's why I picked Family Happiness. I also think about
Speaker 3: this book all the time, and when I walk down
Speaker 3: certain streets in Sydney, now it's like I've seen this book,
Speaker 3: Like I've seen that girl walking there. I know that
Speaker 3: kind of restaurant in Darlinghurst where she works, and like,
Speaker 3: so it's just a beautiful book.
Speaker 4: I really liked it. Lonely mouthed by Jacqueline May, how
Speaker 4: about you?
Speaker 7: Am Okay, you guys aren't going to be surprised at mine.
Speaker 7: I am recommending the act. Yes, okay, I need somebody
Speaker 7: should I need to talk about the law of how
Speaker 7: I found Akatar.
Speaker 4: So my sister introduced me to tell everybody what akatar.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. It is a Court of Thorns and Roses
Speaker 4: by Sarah J. Mass.
Speaker 7: It is a romanticy series. There's five books in the series,
Speaker 7: and I think the next one comes out next year.
Speaker 4: The best selling books in the world.
Speaker 2: So I know a lot of people who have bought them,
Speaker 2: going okay, everyone's reading them and they're like, I don't
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: So an a Gatar the name of the series, and
Speaker 1: then Court of.
Speaker 4: Is the acronym of a court of thorns.
Speaker 7: And roses, and then we call it the Aquitar series.
Speaker 7: And then the second books like a Court of Missed
Speaker 7: and Fury, and then it goes on. So that's five books.
Speaker 7: And how I got into it was my sister read
Speaker 7: them all. She's like, you have to read the Akaitar series.
Speaker 4: You'll love it. And I was like okay.
Speaker 7: So she gave me the first book and I read
Speaker 7: it in a day and it was a Thursday, and
Speaker 7: I immediately started the second book, and then I came
Speaker 7: into the office on Friday, going okay, guys, I just
Speaker 7: started Akata. Everyone in the office has already read them.
Speaker 7: They're like, can't wait to hear what you think about
Speaker 7: the rest of the second book. The weekend passes, I
Speaker 7: get to work on Monday, eyes are so read and
Speaker 7: they were like, how'd you go with the second book,
Speaker 7: and I was like, I read all five.
Speaker 4: I read all five books.
Speaker 1: So are these historical?
Speaker 2: It is like there are no Kennedy's in these books.
Speaker 7: No fantasy. It's fantasy. It's like fairies, fairies.
Speaker 1: And it's a very like sexually.
Speaker 4: It's not like super super sexual.
Speaker 7: Like I feel like people who love smart books will
Speaker 7: be like, that's not smart. But then when I first
Speaker 7: read them, I was like, whoa, this is smart. And
Speaker 7: now I read more smart and I'm like that wasn't smart.
Speaker 7: So it is like very very it's the gateway.
Speaker 3: Yah.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 7: So it is very very sexy. There's a lot of
Speaker 7: sex scenes. But then once you get into the Romancy universe,
Speaker 7: you'd be like, oh, that was child's play. But it
Speaker 7: is so addictive, Like I haven't felt reading those books
Speaker 7: since I read Harry Potter when I was a kid,
Speaker 7: Like you just.
Speaker 4: Want to read my I'm addicted.
Speaker 7: Sarah Jay Marsh she started writing her series when she
Speaker 7: was like sixteen years old.
Speaker 3: Wow, and she's now richer than God tell everybody. If so,
Speaker 3: if I'm entry level and I'm buying this for someone
Speaker 3: all for myself, which, what's the first one I've got to.
Speaker 4: Read again A Court of Thorns and Rows.
Speaker 3: So although that's the name of the series, it's also
Speaker 3: the name of the first book.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: My mum bought me the second Harry Potter book to
Speaker 2: start with, and I was second.
Speaker 4: Such annoying she didn't get it.
Speaker 2: One of my books of the year that I probably
Speaker 2: recommend if someone says, what was the best book you
Speaker 2: read this year? The Wedding People?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I love that book.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm I think it was released in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four. But The Wedding People a novel by Alison S.
Speaker 4: Pack.
Speaker 2: It's sold more than one million copies. It's massive and
Speaker 2: it sounds really depressing when you describe the premise and
Speaker 2: it kind of is it done.
Speaker 1: She stopped me from reading it for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like this woman who her relationship has
Speaker 2: broken down. You kind of find out why. But it's
Speaker 2: really funny and like there is something about the insights
Speaker 2: and being inside that woman's head that is so entertaining,
Speaker 2: and then the dynamics of a wedding as well, is
Speaker 2: just so genius to explore.
Speaker 1: The writing is so absurd.
Speaker 2: It's so observant, it's just outstanding writing. The wedding people.
Speaker 2: I have not had anyone go and read this and
Speaker 2: say a bad word about it.
Speaker 1: It is. It is so good.
Speaker 2: All right, Holly, what is your rogue recommendation?
Speaker 3: My music taste has changed this year completely. I've had
Speaker 3: a sudden realization this year that I only really want
Speaker 3: to listen to women now, and.
Speaker 4: That's really different for me.
Speaker 3: All of the artists I've loved all my life, most
Speaker 3: of them have been tortured men like I could name
Speaker 3: them all, but I told you all about how Wencey
Speaker 3: Ryan Adams, who was one of my favorite all time artists.
Speaker 1: Well, also you and I have to recommend.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: Obviously, the Oasis gig was amazing, so they get an
Speaker 3: exclusion from this. But I realized that a lot of
Speaker 3: the angsty men that I've always loved and always love
Speaker 3: listening to, I'm just done with them. I'm just done
Speaker 3: with them. It's not because I'm like, oh, they're all
Speaker 3: old and wingy or canceled or whatever.
Speaker 4: It's just I've just shifted.
Speaker 3: There are just so many amazing female artists making so
Speaker 3: much amazing music. So the two things I'm recommending is
Speaker 3: this soundtrack to Pruning Your Tomatoes because you're also recommending
Speaker 3: pruning your tomatoes.
Speaker 4: Two things, your tomatoes. My hack is.
Speaker 3: I've got more tomatoes and I know what to do
Speaker 3: with in the garden this year because I've been pruning
Speaker 3: them really hard. If anyone's growing tomatoes, you just got
Speaker 3: to cut all of the baby leek, just cut cut.
Speaker 3: And while you're doing that, you listen to Lily Allen's
Speaker 3: West End Girl, which is one of my albums of
Speaker 3: the year, no question. I'm obsessed with that. That's a
Speaker 3: good album. I live in that hour.
Speaker 1: It's your favorite song on it to start with.
Speaker 3: My favorite song on it is four chan Stan, which
Speaker 3: is such a good song about how sad her mysterious
Speaker 3: partner aka David Harber has become. But really you have
Speaker 3: to listen to it from beginning to end because it's
Speaker 3: the story of the story, which is so original about it.
Speaker 2: I haven't great told you this, Holly, because you kept
Speaker 2: banging on about it. And then I found myself with
Speaker 2: a quiet Sunday afternoon knowing I'm just going to put
Speaker 2: on the first song, see what the fuss is about.
Speaker 2: It's a great album, so good, and it's like you
Speaker 2: have to listen to every single song do.
Speaker 4: It's a story.
Speaker 3: She's made something amazing I think, and all the music
Speaker 3: is great. Non Monoga Mummy is also a banger, like
Speaker 3: some of them are such bangers like dance bangers, but
Speaker 3: they're about these terrible things. And it goes hand in
Speaker 3: hand with one of my recommendations from earlier this year,
Speaker 3: which is Semat who's an amazing Irish female songwriter and
Speaker 3: her album euro Country is so good. So put those
Speaker 3: amazing women in your ears and prune the shit out
Speaker 3: of your tomatoes.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've got something that goes with that. If you
Speaker 1: don't have tomatoes to prune, you can put on those
Speaker 1: albums while you do my recommendation. My recommendation is a
Speaker 1: Japanese I mask. Now, these are readily available on Amazon
Speaker 1: or on any of those K Beauty and J beauty
Speaker 1: stores that have popped up around the country. I learned
Speaker 1: about them when I lived in Japan, and they are
Speaker 1: self heating paper imasks, so you can get like five
Speaker 1: in a pack or ten in a pack. They're not
Speaker 1: expensive at all. They're centered with either citrus, camera meal
Speaker 1: or my personal favorite is lavender, and you put it on.
Speaker 1: It has little ear loops, put on your lily. Allen
Speaker 1: lie down and they magically heat up to about forty
Speaker 1: degrees celsius. And they stay at that heat for about
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or so, so you'll get rid of a headache,
Speaker 1: you will fall asleep. They're great for planes. If you're
Speaker 1: on a plane, you know how your eyes feel so dry?
Speaker 1: And I'm pleasant on a plash and I got.
Speaker 4: Off a plane.
Speaker 7: I got to starve because all my oh, like I
Speaker 7: got clogs.
Speaker 4: I needed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: My autonomicis was like, you need to put a heat
Speaker 7: on your eyes.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't recommend them highly enough. The brand is meg
Speaker 1: Rhythm by cow Kao And like I say, they're just
Speaker 1: a cheap delight that will improve your life.
Speaker 4: Oh I need that, how about you? M okay.
Speaker 7: My recommendation, my rogue recommendation is actually from a segment
Speaker 7: we talked about on the podcast, and there was the
Speaker 7: analog bag. Yes, oh my god, so now I have
Speaker 7: my analog z own. Analog bag is also known as
Speaker 7: a hobby bag, and you basically make a bag that
Speaker 7: either lives in your home or lives in your car,
Speaker 7: or that you can have on hand that has everything
Speaker 7: in it that isn't digital. So stuff you can do
Speaker 7: that doesn't require a phone, a computer or a screen.
Speaker 7: Like I do have my Kindle in it because I
Speaker 7: read on it, but it's like that's my only.
Speaker 4: Digital thing in it.
Speaker 7: I have my coloring in book, and some markets I
Speaker 7: have my crossword book. I have like every so many
Speaker 7: little things in there, and I just take it to
Speaker 7: a cafe or a park and then I leave my
Speaker 7: phone at home and then I can just do my
Speaker 7: analog activities.
Speaker 1: And do you actually leave your phone at home?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't go too far from my apartment in
Speaker 7: case I'm working my way across the radius analog bag.
Speaker 4: And I see a lot of people talking about these
Speaker 4: since you recommended. Yeah, it's just so fun little activities.
Speaker 1: What coloring book are you loving at the moment? Is
Speaker 1: there an Akata one? No?
Speaker 4: I actually don't use the adult coloring books. I use
Speaker 4: the kid ones.
Speaker 7: I'm bad it's staying in the line. If anything, it
Speaker 7: stresses me out more. So I use the kid ones
Speaker 7: where I get like big, like thick black li line.
Speaker 7: So I don't go outside the lines because then I
Speaker 7: freak out if I do. I've also been experimenting in
Speaker 7: shading cross hatching. Yeah, I'll send you guys a photo
Speaker 7: of my latest piece.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love a color.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: My record. I've got two quick ones. The first is
Speaker 2: earlier this year. I recommended giving blood, and I'm really
Speaker 2: glad that I gave blood, because when you're pregnant you
Speaker 2: can't donate blood. But given the recent terror attack in
Speaker 2: Bonday and we saw Australia break records for blood donations,
Speaker 2: I just want to remind people to keep the momentum
Speaker 2: of that kind of of us flocking and donating blood.
Speaker 2: Let's keep that momentum up, especially in a period where
Speaker 2: we might find ourselves with a few days that are
Speaker 2: free in our calendar. So if you haven't done it
Speaker 2: in a while, go and do it. And look just
Speaker 2: as a little silver lining if you need something to
Speaker 2: get over the line. Lots of hot men hit me
Speaker 2: up exactly, and lots of really good snacks. Yep, yeah,
Speaker 2: apparently it's good for you. You get sweet things and
Speaker 2: you can post about it on social Make sure you
Speaker 2: tell people everyone you see that you've just donated blood.
Speaker 2: If you can wear like a thing around your your
Speaker 2: arm and just say I don't, I think you might
Speaker 2: get a sticker you get a key ring. Yeah, wear
Speaker 2: it is a lanyard. Just I think it's a really
Speaker 2: important thing to mark to everyone. I am better than
Speaker 2: you because I gave blood. So that is my recommendation.
Speaker 2: And the other thing is I leveled up my smoothie
Speaker 2: this year. I was just telling Holly before Luna and
Speaker 2: I make how smoothie every day. I used to work
Speaker 2: at Boost Juice. This is on I am a I'm professional,
Speaker 2: so I always do my like mango banana oat milk
Speaker 2: ice like that's your your base. But I chuck in
Speaker 2: my spinach. I do like flax shea whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I go to a health food and find something throw
Speaker 2: that in. But what I've done is I've just added
Speaker 2: a little bit of honey just to sweeten it. And
Speaker 2: it's just in summer. It's like every day I'm having that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so about six cubes and that's what makes the.
Speaker 4: Nice to speak.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was going to say, like, having worked
Speaker 1: at Boost Juice, does it ever feel like work when.
Speaker 2: You're making I feel as though I'm in a like
Speaker 2: I'm a scientist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel very confident about it. I can
Speaker 1: tell you do it with a sort of practice exactly,
Speaker 1: and I just know smoothie. I think that time you
Speaker 1: should charge.
Speaker 2: I do with six and I really like it nice
Speaker 2: and thick. That's the trick to getting it there. Sometimes
Speaker 2: I even put a little bit of yoga in there.
Speaker 2: Sometimes for breakfast, I'll put some oats in there.
Speaker 1: It's the only thing that's advanced.
Speaker 4: Myself. Neutrable bullet. So I'm going to be Smoothie in
Speaker 4: all summer.
Speaker 2: You get a neutra bullet and you put spinach in
Speaker 2: your smoothie and you start. I have a friend and
Speaker 2: this is all we talk about. Every time I see him.
Speaker 2: I go, I don't get ever since I got spinach
Speaker 2: and my neutrable. He's like, so do I. And all
Speaker 2: we do is talk about a neutrable. It's game changing, amazing.
Speaker 4: It's also good at making frozen margretas. Oh yes, that's genius.
Speaker 1: Can I just reflect on the fact that these recommendations
Speaker 1: have spanned Smart Too, Smoothie.
Speaker 4: Out louders.
Speaker 3: Finally, we have reached the end of our recommendations for
Speaker 3: the year. We've loved being with you and sharing them
Speaker 3: with you all year long. I got a few more
Speaker 3: days to go, remember everyone. January one of the year.
Speaker 3: What year?
Speaker 2: Good episode?
Speaker 1: Actually, it's a very good one.
Speaker 3: A few goodies in there and a surprise guest who
Speaker 3: probably isn't a surprise.
Speaker 4: Anyway, out louders, we love you the bits.
Speaker 3: We'll be back in your ears tomorrow and then of
Speaker 3: course for the big New Year's Day.
Speaker 2: And if you're looking for more to listen to, Every
Speaker 2: Mum and mea podcast is curating your summer listening right
Speaker 2: across our network. From pop culture to beauty to powerful interviews.
Speaker 2: There's something for everyone. There's a link in our show notes.
Speaker 2: We'll be back to regular programming on Monday, twelfth of January.
Speaker 7: Bye Bye Mummy acknowledges the traditional owners of the land
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