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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Seize the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 1: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 1: one way. So this is the platforms to hear and

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Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives They adore,

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Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly. The best and worst day

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Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of Seizing your Yea. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned

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Speaker 1: funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels to co found

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Speaker 1: matcha Maiden and matcha Milk Bar. Sees the Ya is

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Speaker 1: a series of conversations on finding a life you love

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Speaker 1: and exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along

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Speaker 1: the way.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Welcome by Oh my god, I had to swore

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Speaker 2: that s so far as we just started as I

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Speaker 2: took a drink of water.

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Speaker 1: What have you come as? She's wearing like a straw

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Speaker 1: hat that looks very fashion if you wear it with

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Speaker 1: the right ensemble, but it's with like gym clothes.

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Speaker 2: Anytime, Scarecrow, anytime I crossed the river and I got

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Speaker 2: to be busy. I have to come busy today. I'm Wendy.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Wendyoo, Wendy, and my best friend's name is Darlene.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a nice little narrative you've got.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad we got to do our part two

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Speaker 2: so soon after.

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Speaker 1: It was meant to come out seven days after and

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Speaker 1: it's been what two weeks, and we haven't even recorded it,

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Speaker 1: let alone put it out. It's fine, we have we have.

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Speaker 2: Very good reason though. You are seven weeks away from

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Speaker 2: giving back my seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so weird. Thirty three weeks today, he's a pineapple.

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Speaker 2: The spikes hurt.

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Speaker 1: That's what Nick said, you guys have been hanging out to. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I said, he's really hurting me. Like I sent him

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Speaker 1: a little app from like screenshot saying what fruit he

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Speaker 1: is this week? And he was like, and I said, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's really hurting me because he's so big and he's

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Speaker 1: trying to make space. Apparently he doubles in size again

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Speaker 1: from now And I was like, every time he moves,

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Speaker 1: I said Oh, he's really hurting me today. And it

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Speaker 1: goes from the spikes, from the acidity. He's like, all

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Speaker 1: that skin looks spiky, and then.

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Speaker 2: You just.

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Speaker 1: How how But that's not really a reason, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: using it as a reason. But I think this year

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Speaker 1: I've just been really like, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, my thing is a very valid reason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's valid, but it's not the reason. I'm just

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Speaker 1: using it as the reason.

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Speaker 2: I'm You don't like me say it.

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Speaker 1: No, you've been here a lot of times. Just every time.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, let's just do it like another day, because.

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Speaker 2: I am the common denominator.

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Speaker 1: Let's just do it like another day. Yeah, we've just

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Speaker 2: But speaking of pregnancy, how is he tracking? Normal? Site

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Speaker 2: is in normal size?

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Speaker 1: His normal size. He's apparently got like a bit of

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Speaker 2: It's so cute.

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Speaker 1: He's just started to like move all the time now,

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Speaker 1: like all the time. He's just renovating in there, which

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Speaker 2: Surprise amazing nick Son.

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Speaker 2: He's building his laundry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's got a double in size, so like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how he's going to make room in there,

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Speaker 2: Does he have a height?

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Speaker 1: It's like forty two centimeters at the moment, which is well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's four times three times during the pregnancy,

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Speaker 2: So so excited.

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Speaker 1: That's when you get like the three D face again.

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Speaker 3: Two weeks time, isn't then you're five weeks You could

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Speaker 2: Every time you do like a pood, do you feel

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Speaker 1: Not really? No, I kind of thought that there would

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Speaker 1: Well, we've been doing. We've been doing amazing birth.

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Speaker 2: Classes as you went to one yesterday, all the rights.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Valentine's Day, that was our little Valentine's

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Speaker 1: Day activity, and all the right research and support. We

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Speaker 3: Looks like yeah, because so because you don't have any

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Speaker 2: And then Nick's got Nick and his mum and there's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like adoption on both sides. You're such a mystery.

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Speaker 1: But I keep saying that, now that I've realized he's

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: We have a couple of girlfriends in the Korean group

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Speaker 1: Literally money to come from? So but Nick doesn't have ginger.

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Speaker 2: All those shame is really but you don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't you could have. Can you imagine? Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: ed sheeran imagine would be so rich. But I think,

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Speaker 1: he comes out, he's like a little human, like he's

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's why you guys are good. You'd

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Speaker 2: let him be whatever he wants to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like if he wants to play kanga cricket with Annie,

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Speaker 2: But if he wants to do ballet, he'll do ballet

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Speaker 2: maybe Billy Elliott, Billy Elliott.

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Speaker 1: But it's so cute just thinking about all those things now,

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Speaker 1: like of course he doesn't come out with interests and

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Speaker 4: Episode back busy and knowing the baby today he's been

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Speaker 4: in the world for a week and so tell us

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Speaker 4: about the birth from your perspective, So that's about when you.

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Speaker 2: Were younger to die, you had and what about your

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Speaker 2: your neighborhood must be so beautiful, it must be so supportive,

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Speaker 2: and what are your favorite books?

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Speaker 1: What is one book you would recommend to this community.

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Speaker 1: It's like a very hungry caterpillar.

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Speaker 2: Have you thought about things like like social media.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's been a really hard one because I'm such

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Speaker 1: an oversharer, Like you know, I'm really private with people.

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Speaker 1: If something involves people who aren't as public as me

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Speaker 1: Nick just said, exclusively bum.

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Speaker 2: But at two years old, that's too far for that.

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Speaker 1: It's too far forbum yeh yeh.

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Speaker 5: So bummies identify about me recognizable bum you know, like

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Speaker 5: when they're Some people are of the opinion that when

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Speaker 5: their babies, they're less identifiable, so you can show them

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Speaker 5: when they're babies, but when they grow into like toddlers

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like there's so many different options

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Speaker 2: Yes, you sit with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I imagine with you both, a lot of it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's most comfortable. I agree though with the.

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Speaker 3: Also, I think it's different coming from a person that

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Speaker 3: hasn't doesn't have a child. I think your perspective changes

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Speaker 3: once you once you have one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've always felt like babies never look.

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Speaker 1: Like they they end up looking. Yeah, they develop very differently.

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Speaker 3: Like if I look at my photo, I was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: you look I tangerine.

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Speaker 1: No, I think I had drawn. I gave it all

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Speaker 1: of your childhood photos.

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Speaker 2: You look identical.

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Speaker 1: You never a lot different. No, No, you look exactly

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Speaker 2: That is going on. That is you, that is.

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Speaker 1: You right now, Look that you are.

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Speaker 2: I didn't we gotta put this up you.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Most babies look very very different from when they're fit.

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Speaker 2: That's you.

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Speaker 3: You have not changed a photo of me as a

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Speaker 3: probably I don't know, five days old and is now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like selfishly, I was like, please

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Speaker 3: And then have you I think this is a question

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Speaker 2: A birth plan.

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Speaker 1: Yes, have a birth plan. And so we have a

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Speaker 2: You don't have to keep saying door, You're going to

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Speaker 1: Name, Doylely, you look like a totally right now. So

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Speaker 1: plan because she's delivered like hundreds of babies and she's

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Speaker 1: worked really closely with our ob Danielle as well, so

443
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Speaker 1: they're like a team that knows how to work together.

444
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 1: But you do a preferences her approaches. You write down

445
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 1: all your preferences, so the order of what you would

446
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: like in terms of like natural versus cesarean versus natural,

447
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: like vaginal with drugs, vagina without drugs with drugs in order, like,

448
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: you know, do you want any pain relief? Do you

449
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: want it to be offered to you? And she kind

450
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 1: of like helps you know, all the questions that could

451
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: come up and then gets now what your preference is

452
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 1: so that when you're like totally out of it and

453
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily you can't advocate for yourself, that she

454
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,719
Speaker 1: can then communicate those preferences. So, yes, we have like

455
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Speaker 1: my preferences for every single possibility that could come up.

456
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: But then at the same time, if something's medically necessary,

457
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: it's medically necessary.

458
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're pretty much just like whatever happens happened.

459
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of like this is the default, this

460
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: is what I would like, this is my dream scenario,

461
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: and then if this happens, then this. If this happens,

462
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: then this, And we've kind of gone through each thing.

463
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: Okay, exciting. Should we do a separate episode on your

464
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: birth plan or is that private information?

465
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Speaker 4: No?

466
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: But I think we should, Well, we should do one

467
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: on the birth after it and then compare the plan.

468
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: Oh, compare the pair.

469
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: Compare the pair. Yes, compare the pineapple. Compare, although by

470
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: then not be compared the watermelon.

471
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Speaker 2: Well that's smooth, yeah, at least large, but smooth.

472
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: And it's so interesting, like half of the plan will

473
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Speaker 1: be irrelevant, you know what I mean, Like it can.

474
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Speaker 3: Only get just one way because some people have really

475
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 3: strong It's like, you know, I saw this thing the

476
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Speaker 3: other day.

477
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Speaker 2: It's like when you meet someone that's been your friend

478
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: for so long and then you realize that, like like

479
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: uber religious, you wouldn't have you wouldn't have guessed otherwise. Yeah,

480
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 2: don't change and be like, oh, like I wouldn't have

481
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 2: known you were like Orthodox Greek or something.

482
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's interesting. It's like, oh, I wouldn't

483
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Speaker 1: have known you exactly cesarean.

484
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have known you were so like. I think

485
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: people feel really strongly against EPI drils, which I don't like. Again,

486
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Speaker 3: I think it's because I've never had to be in

487
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 3: a situation, but I think working in the hospital also

488
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: I have a desensitized idea of dangers of things like drials. Yeah,

489
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 3: normally that's people's biggest concerns. But yeah, like things like

490
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: people's really strong views towards a drug or no drug

491
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Speaker 3: or definitely no cesarean or definitely cesarean or whatever is interesting,

492
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 3: not like anyone's ever better than the Othercacy outcomes saying

493
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: more very similar, but it's very interesting to no.

494
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Speaker 2: But I feel like yours was. I'm not liable.

495
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't go in like I must do it

496
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: this way. I'm very much like the medical experts will

497
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: guide me. And I trust our rob so much that

498
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: she wouldn't go for an option until it was medically necessary.

499
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: So she'll give you the best chance at a natural

500
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Speaker 1: birth without pain relief. And if I couldn't do that,

501
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: there'd be a reason, And I'm not the right person

502
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: to say what that reason, if that makes sense, Like,

503
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Speaker 1: if she's telling me I need to I'm not going

504
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: to go no, ye totally, or if I need a

505
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: C section, I'm not going to say no against medical advice,

506
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So I'm like like flexible, but

507
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: I know what my base preference would be, which would

508
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: be natural.

509
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 3: I get one more preping question. Yeah, would you do

510
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: like the whole stand in the shower thing?

511
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: Okay? Does everyone do that?

512
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: Everyone does that?

513
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 2: Oh right?

514
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, so you get like your birthing area, and

515
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: some of them have a pool as well. Some of

516
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: them just you imagine it's like an Olympic size room

517
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: and a diving bod. Some of them have a pool,

518
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: but most of them you'll have a shower and because

519
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: like so you learn so much on my god, active

520
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: labor where you're actually like pushing and screaming and like

521
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: that kind of I don't want.

522
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Speaker 3: To that's very short, okay, thank god, because I would

523
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: be too stress seeing my friend in pain.

524
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's also really weird. Half the training

525
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: around birth education is learning that for the one time

526
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: in your life, it's it's it's normal pain, Like it's

527
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: good pain. Like there's obviously a level where you in

528
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: distress versus where you're just working hard. But they're like,

529
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: it's hard. Labor is hard, and it's especially hard, like

530
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 1: for Nick, a lot of his training has been around

531
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: normally if you saw her like that, you would think

532
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: she was dying. And you have to train your brain

533
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: that this is supposed to be like that. You're just

534
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: supposed to help support her through it.

535
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: But I just got she was thinking about stressed. I

536
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't know what to do. I'd be like a lot of.

537
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: It is like the pre labor where the contractions are

538
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: getting closer together, but you're not actually pushing so and

539
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: it's still really uncomfortable. So in that time, people are

540
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: like rolling on the ball, They're going in the shower,

541
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: they're out of the shower. They're like, you're trying to

542
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: create as much oxytocin as possible because your pain levels

543
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: are lower if you have more oxotocin. So it's like

544
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: get rid of the adrenaline. You'd like candles, you play music, Yeah,

545
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm working on it.

546
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: You're just going to be like.

547
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: I've already told it, like if you want, if you

548
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: want ottocin in my body, it's gonna be She's like classical,

549
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: what do you want? I'm like house music where guys, yeah,

550
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: literally literally, if you want me in a mode where

551
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: I feel pumped up, like I can do this, It's like,

552
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: don't you worry each other it? Actually, I'm not king.

553
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: You are like the biggest fan.

554
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: I would actually put money on the fact that at

555
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: some point I'm going to ask someone to play that song.

556
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: I'd be surprised if it wasn't the first song on

557
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: your least.

558
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if there's a moment where I'm like,

559
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: I can't do it, Like when when we ran the

560
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: half marathon, the bits where I was like, I can't

561
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: do this. I put on Swedish House my fee, and

562
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: then I can do it. I knew it, and she

563
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: made me write it down. She's like, write that down

564
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: because that'll be useful. You know, I'm not writing that,

565
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: but this remix, not the radio edit. I want the specific.

566
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah literally, Okay. So that was my last like probing

567
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: question that I personally have.

568
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: Because actually I can't wait to do the birth story

569
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: episode because I will be so fascinated to break down

570
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: the psychology of it all. It's so psychological.

571
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: I like, am I'm quite your stress than I am.

572
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, Oh my god, what's your heart rate doing?

573
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: I haven't turned off from when I went to the

574
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: gym three hours ago? What is it?

575
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: What is it recording your heart right?

576
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: My whole gym session has been since I've been doing

577
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: it for three hours.

578
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: Oh you're so active? Oh my okay, Also, oh my god,

579
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: you're update before we even get into BIM it's been

580
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: twenty seven minutes. We haven't started Part two. Other questions yep,

581
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: which is so chaotic. You did a triathlon since our

582
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: last episode.

583
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: I finished a triathlon, is what. I didn't do it.

584
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: I just you didn't do it. I just got to

585
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: the end.

586
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: Speaking of the psychology of getting through some intelliging. So

587
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Ann slept over. We had a family sleep over the

588
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: night before. Yes, that was really cute.

589
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: That was a good prep. I have to say.

590
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: Actually, and wore her wet suit half the night because a.

591
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: YouTube comment I read said you should season it season.

592
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you said season it gross. It's so gross.

593
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: Ill. Well, most of my education trython wise it was

594
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: through YouTube comments, comments and Instagram comments.

595
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, not the original comments.

596
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: They better than they provide all of the extra It's

597
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: like the nuggets.

598
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the like yeahborhood wisdom.

599
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: What's in a book where it's like the extre info, the.

600
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: Appendages, the appendix appendages like the penises limbs, you mean,

601
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: like the footnotes, like extra comments, yeah, extra comments, so

602
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 1: not appendages.

603
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: Use. It was a great. It was a great. It

604
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: was actually really fun. It was fun.

605
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: It was a fun thing to do. It was funny

606
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: because I went back. I've always wanted to do an

607
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: Olympic distance. Yeah, for like since The first one I

608
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: ever did was to that and in sixteen, okay a

609
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: long time ago, and I didn't know how to swim,

610
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: so YouTube how to swim.

611
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: So that's my swimming knowledge. And I was weird because

612
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: you're really sporty.

613
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: We just never swam like we got You know, when

614
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: you do it and you're in that's grimary school and

615
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: you do it in prep and then you kind of

616
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: can continue outside of that.

617
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, going too. I just did that like we did.

618
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: We could sweat, like you wouldn't have drowned.

619
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: I probably would have drowned.

620
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: Okay, you couldn't swim like.

621
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: No, no, Like we could swim, but like, my my

622
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: ability to trade water was very minimum. I could do

623
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: it for like a minute. I was like, so technically, yeah,

624
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: I would drink.

625
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need one of those baby necks.

626
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, but it was like somewhat like comfortable in

627
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: the water. I wasn't like I could I could do freestyle.

628
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: I couldn't do it for like fifty.

629
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: Meters yeah, okay, not like yeah, so in that.

630
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: Sense, yeah, I was like we we went to the ocean.

631
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: I would spend all my time in the.

632
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: Water as a kid. Yeah, boogie boarding and all that stuff.

633
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: So in that sense, I kind of wouldn't drown straight away,

634
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: but one day rescued probably would be on that in

635
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: some way.

636
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I would be pulled, I would not figure

637
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: out that I was in a rope.

638
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: I'd be like, okay, yeah probably yeah.

639
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: So anyway, that was my first one. I learned how

640
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: to swim, and then I really only ever swim when

641
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: I'm in my mind I'm going to do a trifle

642
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: in the near future, so kind of every like very

643
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: sporadically go back into the pool. So I did that

644
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: one that was a sprint one, and that was really fun.

645
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: But I trained really hard for that, Like I was.

646
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: Like in apule A lot.

647
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: I did a lot of brick sessions, which is where

648
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: you do a bike and a run after the other

649
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: in a single session.

650
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: Yep.

651
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: And then this one.

652
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: I was always going to do a sprint one, and

653
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I want to see if I

654
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: can make it for the Olympic distance. So I picked

655
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: up swimming again and started swimming a lot more, maybe

656
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: like twice a week.

657
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: What is what are the Olympic distances for those?

658
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: So it's one point five klumbitter open water. I swim

659
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: and then a forty k by grid in a ten

660
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: game came on.

661
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still freaking long.

662
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: Because I was like running and cycling. Like cycling, I

663
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: didn't even train for.

664
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: I guess your day to day.

665
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I do en circle as much as I

666
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: used to, but I feel like I've cycled enough in

667
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: my experience to be muscle comfortable with it. And then running,

668
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: I had been running a little bit and that was

669
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: like enough, like a couple of times a week. So

670
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: I kind of was training for the Try, but I

671
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: also wasn't training for the Try. Like I was doing

672
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: all the elements, but not to the distances that I

673
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: probably should have or in the programming that I should have.

674
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was like, you know what, I only have.

675
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: One opportunity to this bloody Try this season because after

676
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: the next one, I'm going to be in Vietnam for

677
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: the wedding.

678
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

679
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: It was like, if I do it, I have to

680
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: do either the Janguine or the feed one.

681
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: I was like, there's no way I could do the

682
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: jain one, Okay, So it's like I'll just have to

683
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: do the fed one. So four days, five days before

684
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: I signed up for it, and I was like, okay.

685
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: I thought you knew a little bit earlier that you

686
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: were doing.

687
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: No, I was always going to do the March three one.

688
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: The feb eleven one was kind of like a see

689
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: how if I think I can manage it?

690
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

691
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: So I had swum like up to a kilometer in

692
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: the pool, which is I was like, so good.

693
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: And then when I was in the water.

694
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: When I was in the water in the race, was

695
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: when I decided to reflect on my training seeing if

696
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: I could do it. And I was like, I never

697
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: actually swam at NonStop like i'd be swimming like chatting

698
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: after one hundred meters, chatting.

699
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: After in the condo meters. And I was like, I'm ready.

700
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: Also open water versus like I know is very.

701
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: While I'm in open water again, I'm reflecting on my

702
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: open water something experiences, I was like, so I've done

703
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: two oh wow.

704
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: One was that first try and the second was bar

705
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: and heads.

706
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: Was this not open water where I thought I was

707
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: actually gonna die because I had to do backstroke two

708
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: years ago and the only other time I swam more

709
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: than six hundred meters. Actually I've never swum I had

710
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: never swum more than.

711
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: Six hundred meters open water.

712
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: And the only other time I swam six hundred was

713
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: four days before when I tried out the wetsuit that

714
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: I got off Facebook Marketplace Nice.

715
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: Four days before Nice.

716
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: I was like, don't worry, I'm prepared. I don't know

717
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: what in my brain thought I was prepared for this.

718
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: That's a nat How did you get through the self

719
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: doubt like it? I'm going to think about it.

720
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: I genuinely obviously didn't think about it, and that was

721
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: why how I did it. I didn't have time to

722
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: think about it because we had the lunar New Year

723
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: coming up, but a lot of happy year we had,

724
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: like my birthday.

725
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 2: We just had a lot of things, and so I

726
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: was just training the elements, but not training probably well

727
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: enough for it anyway. But in my mind I was like, oh,

728
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: like I'd back myself just to finish it anyway, not

729
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: in any special time, but I just knew that I

730
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: could probably just finish it get through. At the minute

731
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: I got on that water, self.

732
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: Doubt, stress, imposter syndrome plus.

733
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: One day rescue on call, like it was just.

734
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm deceased.

735
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: I had had like so I knew I think anyone

736
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: that's done a trithleon kind of knows the feeling of

737
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: going in the water and getting quite highly anxious about

738
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: the things that are happening around you. Like there's a

739
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 3: lot of water splashing, a lot of people, everyone's going

740
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 3: really fast, you can't see the bottom of the water.

741
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: So I had practiced a little bit in past.

742
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: Like the last probably open water swim that I did

743
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: really honing into like relaxing and being like you can't

744
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 3: have to find a meditative state in a sense, particularly

745
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: if you're not a strong swimmer. Yeah, so everyone jumps

746
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: in and they're like fast and I was like one two.

747
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: One, Mississippi, and I was like, oh.

748
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: My god, it's not working because everyone I was so

749
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: everyone was going so fast and I look up and

750
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: everyone's like and then the girl next to me, I

751
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: was like trying to keep up with her, and she

752
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: was in such a she wasn't even wearing a wet suit.

753
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, you guys are amazing.

754
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: So I'm really really trying hard to get it into

755
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: a rhythm and I just can't, Like I just can't count,

756
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: I can't slow down, I can't like everything's like really stressful.

757
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: So you don't get stressed either, like you're not really

758
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: a stress head.

759
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: No, it's a different experience being stressed out there because

760
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: you can't catch your breath.

761
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you get under water. Yeah. So it took

762
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: me three hundred hole meters to find a state where

763
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: I was.

764
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: Like I got this, I'm not trowning.

765
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: So I finally one two three, like one two three,

766
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 3: one two three. I look up the group behind me

767
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 3: is lapping me. So now there's more like fluffing.

768
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: So I was like distrusting to be kind of again,

769
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: and I do another three hundred anyway, so it's that

770
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: by five hundred meters, I was like, my manchi, was

771
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: you finish when you feel well?

772
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: I was like, like, just don't drown it pretty much well,

773
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: so I swam as well as like like I actually

774
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: swam frees o the whole way.

775
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: I thought I would have had to go backstroke or whatever.

776
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: I didn't think I was truly going to drown, but

777
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: I definitely was like I can't swim any faster than this,

778
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: and I thought that was.

779
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: Fast except the so I was f group. I was like,

780
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Q is coming back to me right now.

781
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: I was like, this is terrible.

782
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: Hey, guys, And I had.

783
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: Kept having to think, like I really kept having to

784
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: be like, you can't catch up to them, don't feel

785
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: like you can't catch with them, don't feel like you

786
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: have to catch up to them.

787
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: To just run your own r Yeah.

788
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: I had to really just be like, get there when

789
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: you want to get there, it's fine.

790
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 5: Oh.

791
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: And the other thing was I got my period the morning.

792
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: Oh, oh my god, I can't back. You texted me that.

793
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: I was like, are you joking? It was a tragedy.

794
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: It was true tragedy. I did.

795
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: I thought I may, but my period, like I kind

796
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 3: of can know approximate time, but I never know the

797
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: exact date. And I just had a feeling it was

798
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: going to come on that day and I did my

799
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: first pooh, fine, second pooh.

800
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: I was there when you did do first Yeah, and

801
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: I was fine, Yeah.

802
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: Just in case anyone wanted to know who was there,

803
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: I was in the toilet.

804
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 2: Breakfast yeah. And then second three, I was like no.

805
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: And for me, recently, my day once have gotten much

806
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: more increasingly like crampy.

807
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, really uncomfortable. Yeah, like I don't ever take pain mads.

808
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: You know this yeah, and I kind of have to

809
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: take painmads.

810
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 3: Anyway, it's like, oh, this is gonna be the worst.

811
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: So anyway, my partner's out there, so supportive, so great.

812
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: The tracker on there obviously is just going by the

813
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: time of like the of the group or something, because

814
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: I don't think in the water they can really e

815
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: gauge what time. And the tracker says that I'm done

816
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: in like twenty five minutes, and so she's wet, and

817
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: so she's like texting my other friend casping like it

818
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: says that she's done. Do you think she's done? And

819
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: cast gooes, how long has it been? And she goes

820
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: twenty five minutes because like absolutely not.

821
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: Because like other people from my group are finishing, and

822
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: she's like, oh my god.

823
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: She She's like, I know, and she's not there forty.

824
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: Five minutes to do this stupid swim.

825
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: That's too good that you did it. Well.

826
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: I was very proud.

827
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: I was like open water swim at all. Its very amazing,

828
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: very like I.

829
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: Was like, you know what, just and I was like

830
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: when I did my final turn, I was like so

831
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: happy with myself.

832
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: I'm so proud.

833
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: This is very seasy A yeah, The only time was

834
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: when I was swimming and I thought I was having

835
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: a good, like little spiel of swimming. So, yeah, I

836
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: feels so strong over and I look over and this

837
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: is like probably middle aged woman doing breaststroke like lapping me.

838
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

839
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, it's like when you do the

840
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: Mother's Day Classic and it's like four k's and you're like,

841
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: haven't had a kid and your pelvis is totally fine

842
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: and youthful, and you're going up the and a stry

843
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: and them with hill and the mom with like the twins,

844
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: he's also pregnant. It's like going fast.

845
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: Year.

846
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: I was like, I actually can't swim faster than this.

847
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I'm doing.

848
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 2: Anyway, I finish that and then the rest was like

849
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: a really there was other there's elements, and there's always

850
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: elements in a try that aren't gonna be favorable. There

851
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: was winds, like quite intense wins.

852
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: On the ride from baby fighting, from me fighting, from

853
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 3: people in front of me fighting.

854
00:38:59,280 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: The transition.

855
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: It was really long, but I I, yeah, I was

856
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: really comfortable in the bike, which I thought. I actually

857
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 3: thought I would not. I would struggle more on the

858
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: bike because I often probably were an overconfident on the bike.

859
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: But it was a really nice ride. I know.

860
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: I that's the one thing. I also have ridden that

861
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: route a bajillion times. Yeah, okay, so I knew the

862
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: route like in all of its undulations, but I didn't

863
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: know the ok.

864
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: Okay, the devils whatever. Anyway, it was undulating. Okay, you

865
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: don't understand. You wouldn't even know you're you know, you

866
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: didn't do English language at Macrov whatever.

867
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: Anyway, and then the run.

868
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: Also never done that route before, but I backed myself

869
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: on the run. Also, I wasn't trying to beat any

870
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: time special time on kind of.

871
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 2: But it was thirty degrees. It was that Sunday.

872
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: I thought it was such a hot day.

873
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: It was such a hot day.

874
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: I tried to get up the stairs, and I called

875
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: it was disgusting. I walked up stairs.

876
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: The most fun thing was just like all my friends

877
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: came to watch.

878
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: So anytime I went past the specific spot, they were

879
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 3: like obnoxiously.

880
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: Loud to the point where I was like other friends

881
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: or my other friends. I mean, I wasn't there.

882
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: No, you were trying to get up the stairs, that's

883
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: where you were.

884
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't make it.

885
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, I really enjoyable experience. Well not be able

886
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: to swim, but whenever we got it done, so.

887
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so proud of you.

888
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: Thank you.

889
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: It was it was really fun and so many themes

890
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: of like the psychology of getting through something. It's so

891
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: much more in your brain than like your body for

892
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: so many things like obviously you have to train physically,

893
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: but like you'll you're what do they say your brain

894
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: will give up way before your body will.

895
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think because I didn't have any pressure

896
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: and I genuinely don't, like, I don't ever really.

897
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: Go I need to win.

898
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: Do you get nervous?

899
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't really do nervous poohs

900
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: ever because I don't ever have a time.

901
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: I love how you're like people ask me if I'm nervous,

902
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: I don't do nervous poos. As if poo were even

903
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: part of that question whatsoever, It's implied nothingulation of the

904
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: ground meant who was involved?

905
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: You did not even you don't even speak the enemies anyway.

906
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: That was the try summary.

907
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: But we don't have to get to forty one minutes

908
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: so far.

909
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: Question this questions to be fast fire?

910
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, always very slow fire, but we did do questions.

911
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to try and do fast fire because like

912
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: my pelvis can't sit on the forner.

913
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: Okay, because I did also have one more segment I

914
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: wanted to bring in because fun.

915
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: Okay, it was I'll do this before the questions.

916
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: Actually, and it's for you to think about for the time.

917
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: What did your parents tell you? Yeah, was like illegal

918
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 3: to do.

919
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: That to love question and it's definitely when you're driving

920
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: in the car and you turn on the light, they're like,

921
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: you're absolutely crash and police will pull you over. I

922
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: thought i'd die.

923
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 3: Dad was like, it's illegal to cross your arms when

924
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 3: you when you turn the steering wheel.

925
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: Oh, like the cross Yeah.

926
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: He fully was like actually, actually, yeah, I don't know.

927
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's illegal. I don't think it's illegal.

928
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: But my other one was like if you eat before

929
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: you swim, like if you eat within thirty minutes of swimming,

930
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: like your vomit or something something about eating and swimming.

931
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: And then oh, there's so many.

932
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: Think about that.

933
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Okay, guys, submit yours for next

934
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: time because we'll do that next time. We also have

935
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to your Portland family because

936
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: you irresponsibly did not shout them out last time. This

937
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: is a very important segment of the neighborhood guys concentrate.

938
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: I have never gotten those eyes before.

939
00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 1: Mode. I'm also wearing a striped linen and mum glass

940
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: mum pants and mum ear rings, and I have glasses

941
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: in my hair before Angelina. Yes, shout out your Portland

942
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: family out.

943
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: No, we when we were rehash wanted we've done recently and

944
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: I had just come back from an amazing trip to

945
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 3: my favorite family in Portland, which your.

946
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: Favorite family in Portland is one sentence because you can't

947
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: say favorite family because.

948
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: Then we're going to like my life, I love my dream.

949
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: And also Nic will kick you right out because he

950
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: gets upset when you have other friends. Yeah, it's true.

951
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: It's true.

952
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: He literally gets upset.

953
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: He's like, who's Molly? Yeah?

954
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: Who fuck is Molly?

955
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: Who is that?

956
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 5: Yeah?

957
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: Why are you going to her place?

958
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: Now?

959
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: Like you live here?

960
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: She's my sister?

961
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so no, they are the couple who It's probably

962
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: one of my favorite friendship stories other than ours with

963
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: the toilet cubicle. When I was eighteen, when I was

964
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: backpacking by my my.

965
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: Sam Sebastian, wasn't it. Yeah.

966
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: I went to San Sebastian on a recommendation and I

967
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: met this couple and they were on their honeymoon and

968
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 3: they were this Australian couple and really.

969
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: I fully gate crashed the honeymoon. And we met in

970
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: this pub and they said, oh, we're talking about the surf.

971
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: They were like, we're going back to France and I

972
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, I really wanted to go,

973
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: and they were like wanting to come with, and I

974
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: just thought it was like a drunken offer. And then

975
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: they messaged me on messenger the day after instaid the

976
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 3: office still there if you wanted.

977
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 2: So I gate crashed their honeymoon in their motor home.

978
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: They had a motor home. They were going, you're.

979
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so intimate and you're just like hi,

980
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 1: And then we spent like three two three days together

981
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: there and I sent in this random French and the camping.

982
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: Spot and like, like, looking back, it's so funny because

983
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: they were like, we're going to get muscles on the marina,

984
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: and I was there. They have these beautiful muscles in

985
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 3: the sunset.

986
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: On the Marina's cute, romantic and then there's me and

987
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: I was a good training became friends with us.

988
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 3: I knew that's what was so good at it, and

989
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: then like everything we just did together us three. They

990
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: were like, oh, do you want us to drive you

991
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 3: to Pampalona And I was like, no, I've already missed

992
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: a flight to Portugal. And then we didn't really and

993
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: that's all I saw of them three days in sanz

994
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: Bastian and then that was kind of it. And we

995
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 3: had had each other's on socials and then three years

996
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: ago I was like, I knew they'd come back to

997
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: Melbourne and they lived on the surf coast and like

998
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: you know when you just like like people's stories and stuff.

999
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: So that was the kind of relationship we had. Hadn't

1000
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: really caught up otherwise. And then yeah, and I was like, oh,

1001
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: I do you know a place I can stay? And

1002
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: they're like, well, you can come to our beach.

1003
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: I like, is that when we got in the van?

1004
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was when you guys got me the juicy van.

1005
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: Well I thought you'd been in touch with them before that.

1006
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: Like only very briefly, like you know every time you

1007
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: get a random memory. Yeah, yeah, the only in touch

1008
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: I was really with them was to ask them.

1009
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: The only intern just spat on it.

1010
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: Yep, again, you didn't do this language.

1011
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wouldn't know.

1012
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: Grandma, your mum.

1013
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: It's baby Brian.

1014
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: And then they have they have.

1015
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: This amazing block on the beach where I think Renee

1016
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: bought it when he was really young.

1017
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: But I don't even know how to describe it unless

1018
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: you see it. It's it's genuinely everyone follows you block

1019
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: of brass on the beach.

1020
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: It's beautiful, no cliff to walk down to the beach.

1021
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: It's like a private beach pretty much. Yeah, and it's

1022
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: a beautiful beach anyway. And then they've recently built a

1023
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: little temporary house on there. And then we went up

1024
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: for three days and I was like, this is paradise.

1025
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: This is the life.

1026
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: And then we met their friend.

1027
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I called ash Ash. Was pretending to not

1028
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: fan girl, but she's definitely.

1029
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: She's in the neighborhood and we love ash Ash. It

1030
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: was so lovely to meet you on faith time.

1031
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, as also like the kids lived the best life.

1032
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: We woke up, they had breakfast, they walk over the

1033
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: like the hill is like one percent grade, and then

1034
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: they're undulating. Not again, no undulation. You are so slow

1035
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: these days. And yeah, and then they and the kids

1036
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: they just go on the water. So the morning we

1037
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: were like before nine o'clock they've done a kayak. Can

1038
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: they take to swim? Maybe I swim and like many

1039
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: like mini sir, like the life out there was just so.

1040
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: We love you.

1041
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: We love you a lot.

1042
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: Okay, we have three minutes now to do all that.

1043
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: Questions. Okay, well that's very fast. Five ye don't worry.

1044
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: Okay, medium questions from the neighborhood.

1045
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just going to go through it.

1046
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: Okay, we haven't categorized, like we know.

1047
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 2: Do you have the line on your belly line niagra?

1048
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called linear nigra. It's like this weird I

1049
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: think it's light and that means black line. I kind

1050
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: of have it. It's just this random line.

1051
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: Can you say?

1052
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1053
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought everyone has it.

1054
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if everyone gets it. Some people get

1055
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: it really dark. It looks like it's hair, but it's not.

1056
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: It's just like this random dark line down the live

1057
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: your stomach that you get during pregnancy. Yeah, I do,

1058
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: but it's not super dark.

1059
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: It's also crooked shut puck up.

1060
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 4: I know.

1061
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: I noticed that it's crooked and my belly button is

1062
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: off center and it really really out.

1063
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: That's me.

1064
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: My OCD is like, I can't, I can't. It all

1065
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: needs to be symmetrical, and it's not.

1066
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: Don't look, it's not.

1067
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm hiding it. Yes, I do have a lildia negro.

1068
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 1: I don't know what the purpose of it is, but yeah, okay, neither.

1069
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: How cool?

1070
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: Next for fuss By, Yeah, how will you manage the podcast?

1071
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: I want you to rest and enjoy pregnancy, but also

1072
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: we'll miss it.

1073
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's really lovely? Was it you who submitted that question?

1074
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: More underscore Anna?

1075
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: And Yeah, she's a beautiful French friend who I met

1076
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: through Eliza, our wonderful yoga teacher and one of my

1077
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: oldest and dearest friends. So we are obviously already not

1078
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: managing it very well, since we done two episodes in

1079
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: like three weeks. But I actually think because we can

1080
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: do online, because we can do it at home, because

1081
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 1: we can do it when the baby's here, I think

1082
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: the plan is obviously not to necessarily do weekly like

1083
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: we have been doing in the past years, where we're

1084
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: very organized, But I think we'll just keep going as

1085
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: much as we can, like as when we can, we'll

1086
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: do a little updates. I definitely want to do the

1087
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: birth story as soon as we can, kind of record

1088
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: after that, Q and A do little updates. We have

1089
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: a couple of guests coming up before the baby's born.

1090
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: One is probably going to be a live event, but

1091
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: a live online event so you can ask questions interactively,

1092
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 1: which is very useful in the lead up to the baby.

1093
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: Another one of the guests for International Women's Day is

1094
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: not related to pregnancy. So yes, we'll be keeping up

1095
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: with it, but just more flexibly and probably less rigidly

1096
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: in terms of schedule.

1097
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 3: Okay, great, so you'll get a podcast once a year,

1098
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 3: Yeah for first five years.

1099
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, fast five years. Yeah, we're locked into a contract

1100
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: with and for one episode per year until twenty thirty five.

1101
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Speaker 2: That's my contract.

1102
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think we kind of answered this one. But

1103
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: in the start, how do you find exercising when pregnant?

1104
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: I feel so guilty not keeping it up at twenty weeks.

1105
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so hard because your body really is just

1106
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: going through so much and I had I've really struggled

1107
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: to let go of I've been really regular and felt

1108
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: really fit and strong kind of just before we got pregnant,

1109
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: and then I was so nauseous and sick. I didn't

1110
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: exercise at all, like barely even walked for the first trimester.

1111
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: And then in the second trimester you kind of get

1112
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: energy back, but you still it's not the same as before.

1113
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 1: So I personally have not had a great exercise regime

1114
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: during this pregnancy, and I found the guilt really hard

1115
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: to let go of earlier. But then the more you

1116
00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: remind yourself, in fact, anytime, any routine or or commitment

1117
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: you had before pregnancy isn't going the way you planned,

1118
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: just have to remind yourself you are growing a human

1119
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: being from scratch in your own body. That is a

1120
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: marathon every day. Like it's literally scientifically proven to be

1121
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: the same weight on your body as like running a marathon.

1122
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: So you've got enough going on.

1123
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: That's rough.

1124
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's so much energy expenditure and exercise. If

1125
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: that's not something you can keep up with, Like it's

1126
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: good to move and walk to sort of get your

1127
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: blood flowing, Like that's healthy for the baby and for you.

1128
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: But in terms of like if you're not training, don't

1129
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: be hard on yourself you're you're burning enough energy.

1130
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: Totally. I feel like.

1131
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: If you exercise for the feeling of feeling good, that's

1132
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: different to feel like you need to just say because

1133
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: in pregnancy that's yeah, I feel like keeping it up

1134
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 3: because you've just as a feel good thing, then probably

1135
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 3: be better.

1136
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, presume.

1137
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and your body will tell you, like if if

1138
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: you have enough energy to work out, then work out.

1139
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: If you don't have enough energy to work out, there's

1140
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: a reason. So don't push through because you just think

1141
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: you shouldn't you feel bad?

1142
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 3: Another question about and we separated to pregnancy and then

1143
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: real time cateorizations. Honestly, that's why they pay me the

1144
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 3: medium dollars. Yeah, I know you meditate and try to

1145
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: keep Yeah, I know you meditate and try to keep

1146
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 3: a mental health routine bracket. I'm reading your book again,

1147
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: but can you tell us your routine If your routine

1148
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 3: changed with pregnancy, do you do more?

1149
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: Do you less mercy? Yeah?

1150
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: Great question, and I think it's it's definitely changed, and

1151
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: probably for the same as exercise. It's changed in that

1152
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: because you're just feeling so different and every week is

1153
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: different and you can't predict how you're going to feel

1154
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: week to week. My routine has gone out the window

1155
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: with most things, so didn't exercise much. I used to

1156
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: meditate really regularly and in a structured way. I did

1157
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: vading meditation. I have totally dropped that during the pregnancy

1158
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: because I just felt so sick. I was waking up

1159
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: at different times, sleeping at different times, and yeah, I

1160
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: found it really had to stick to things consistently as

1161
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: so much is changing around you. But in a weird way,

1162
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: I've kind of been more meditative because I've been less structured,

1163
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. I've been more present in each

1164
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: day because I can't plan that far ahead. So overall

1165
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: through the pregnancy, I think I've been a lot more mindful,

1166
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: a lot more in the moment, a lot more what

1167
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: does my body feel like right now? I check in

1168
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: a lot more with my energy levels, which I'm not

1169
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: good at doing normally, Like if I'm in a really

1170
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: busy week, I will stop and feel that and be

1171
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: like I need to cancel some stuff, like I've pushed

1172
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: it too far, Whereas I don't usually do that, so

1173
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: and I'll meditate more sporadically, so I still do it,

1174
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: but I haven't had what I would call like a

1175
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: good consistent practice.

1176
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: Are you journaling at all?

1177
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: Journaling every day?

1178
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: Well, that's meditat like mental health.

1179
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it comes out. It's come out in different ways.

1180
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: And I'm journaling every day mainly because there's so much

1181
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: of the pregnancy. And I would highly recommend this for anyone.

1182
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: You already know that I journal every time we travel

1183
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: and any big kind of life events, but particularly pregnancy,

1184
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: you forget how you feel. I already forgot what the

1185
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: first trimester was like, and like everything changes so quickly.

1186
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: I want I don't remember what week I first felt

1187
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,479
Speaker 1: him kick, Like I'm not going to remember that without

1188
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: writing it down. So I feel like it's even if

1189
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: you just keep dot points every day, it's so nice

1190
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: to have a record of what it felt like at

1191
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: the time when the emotions are fresh, because then you

1192
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: can look back and be like, how exciting was it

1193
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: the first time he moved or the first this scan

1194
00:54:58,719 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: or the first of that, because you're not going to

1195
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: remember but those details. Yeah, but it allows you to

1196
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: just like even the diabetes and stuff like, I don't

1197
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: remember what I ate unless I wrote it down. So

1198
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: to have a record of just this magical nine months

1199
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: including the shitty bits like you'll love going back to.

1200
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 2: That totally and if you do have another one, it's good. Yeah, yeah, comparison. Okay,

1201
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: I think were one last one from the baby side

1202
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 2: is are you getting the snoo?

1203
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: Yes, we have the snow. So the snow is like

1204
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: this Miracle Creation, which is a bassinet. You want to

1205
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: use a microwave. Guys Nixt making his standard cameo now

1206
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: that we're recording downstairs. He wants you you can use

1207
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: a microwave.

1208
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: Microwave? Have you really that's so nice?

1209
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: Normally doesn't Yeah, I know, like last week he was

1210
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: on a call the whole time, like talking in the background.

1211
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 2: There's noises.

1212
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: Magical Creation, which is a bacinet for the baby. So

1213
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: I did not know. You know, everyone does their nursery reveal.

1214
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: Yes, your baby.

1215
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: Doesn't sleep in the nursery or in a cot for

1216
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: a long time, so you don't even need a nursery.

1217
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 3: Them as an official unofficial babysitter for most people.

1218
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that, but most people don't. I think

1219
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: like they think they've got to get their nursery ready,

1220
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: and then everyone's like they don't sleep in the cot,

1221
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like well then why do you what are

1222
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: you doing Nicholas.

1223
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: Serbray's character more than I.

1224
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: Do anyway, So that you use the nursery for changing

1225
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: and feeding, but the actual cot they don't sleep. They

1226
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: sleep in a basinet when they're small, and often that's

1227
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: in your room. So the snow is a bacinet that

1228
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: rocks itself, and it's like this magical miracle creation that

1229
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: people swear by in the first six months. It's like

1230
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: the Mary Poppin's fairy Godmother of babies. Some babies don't

1231
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: like it, or it's rocks too viciously or whatever it is,

1232
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: but most people have very, very wonderful things to say

1233
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: about it. The problem is you have to wean them

1234
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: off it and teach them to sleep without the rocking motion.

1235
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: But it's kind of like putting them in the car anyway. So,

1236
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: as you guys know, we've been in the last couple

1237
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: of weeks all of the preparation for the nursery and

1238
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: the baby. In December, I was like, that's a January problem.

1239
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, oh no, that October twenty twenty five,

1240
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, oh my god, shit. So we've

1241
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: been living at the memo and picking out our PRAM

1242
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,959
Speaker 1: and the PRAM content was great.

1243
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: Did you see I saw that the the.

1244
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: Pramni bus nick speed testing and all terrain testing the

1245
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: PRAM is it?

1246
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: No? Seriously though, if I went and running with the PRAM,

1247
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: can I run on the prem Yeah?

1248
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: You can run with the Prime. Oh you can actually

1249
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: get running prams. There is much technology anyway, So we

1250
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: got this snow from the memo. I will report back

1251
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: because I know some women think it's like a miracle creation.

1252
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: Some think their babies don't like it. Who knows. But

1253
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: if it gives you even a chance of more sleep, like,

1254
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it. What is he doing this? Just guys,

1255
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: if you want an insight into what our sign is

1256
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: going to be like like he lasted, I'm actually proud

1257
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: he lasted fifty five minutes before he came down and started.

1258
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: Okay, quick fire. Next section is relationship.

1259
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 3: There's only one under this. How did you know you

1260
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 3: do life together with your partner? Did you when you know?

1261
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 3: Did you when you know you're not?

1262
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 2: Watch a question? Watch watch that's the question? Did you

1263
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: when you know? You know?

1264
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 5: What?

1265
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: I don't know?

1266
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: So what was really cute yesterday was our fifteenth Valentine's

1267
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: Day together.

1268
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: That's like my age, that's your age.

1269
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: And I must say, I think we thought we knew,

1270
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: Like Nick tried to propose to me like two months later,

1271
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: but I was nineteen, so we thought that we like

1272
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: found our person and we're going to spend the rest

1273
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: of our life together. But like past nineteen years old,

1274
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: so I probably didn't actually think that if you told

1275
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: me then we'd be having a baby together. Now, I

1276
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 1: probably would have laughed, even though I still did think

1277
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: that he was my person.

1278
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: When was there was surely a moment.

1279
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: Give me, he juston walked his way with his little

1280
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: microwave food. I mean, I think you guys can tell

1281
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: from how much we share a relationship how silly we are,

1282
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: Like our love has always been really silly and fun

1283
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: and life will never be boring with Nick. And I'm like,

1284
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: our weirdness is really compatible, and that was evident from

1285
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: the very beginning. So I think I think, yeah, I

1286
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: think I always knew, But then of course there's been

1287
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: in fifteen years, we've been such different people. And the

1288
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: difference couples who stay together and don't is if you

1289
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: evolve in compatible ways or have you become people who

1290
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: are no longer compatible and it just happens that we've

1291
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: evolved in compatible directions, and every time there's been like

1292
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: a big new challenge, like where one of us has

1293
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 1: completely changed careers, are completely changed who we are or

1294
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: what we're what our goals are in life, that it's

1295
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: gone in the same direction.

1296
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: Bim.

1297
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 3: I know you were ex law but that was the

1298
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 3: most lawyer response because you didn't answer the questions what

1299
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 3: I said.

1300
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: The moment was the moment?

1301
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, was there a moment and you're like, wow, weirdness

1302
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: is compatible. We've evolved to be compatible and in the

1303
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: compatible ways we've evolved compatibly.

1304
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: My question. I think it was so we had everything

1305
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: going against us when we first started dating. I went

1306
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: away on two exchanges that were already booked, so I

1307
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: went overseas twice in the first six months, to China

1308
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: for six weeks and then to France for a year.

1309
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: I was like, bye, I'm going to Europe euro trip,

1310
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be single so I wouldn't change

1311
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: my Facebook status.

1312
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: That was the moment.

1313
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: No, the moment was when he was like, I'm at

1314
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: Paras Airport. It's like I flew over because I didn't

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Speaker 1: want to let go of his relationship because I had

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Speaker 1: been like, he's like, change your Facebook status. I'm like no,

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Speaker 1: because I was like, we've been together for six months,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, let's pause because I'm going on

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Speaker 1: a euro trip with my single best friends and we

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Speaker 1: want to like go so our wild oats. And I'd

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Speaker 1: been in a long term relationship before that anyway, I

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Speaker 1: was like, I just want to be single in Europe,

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Speaker 1: in St. Trope, we're doing this big trip. And then

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Speaker 1: he was like, am at the airport and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I love you, okay, but go away.

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Speaker 3: But okay, yeah, you just that is the correct Yeah,

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Speaker 3: none of this was capability doctor sus Okay, quick to

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Speaker 3: three more questions. This is now about more like black

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Speaker 3: business job. Oh no, what's your vision emission statement in business?

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Speaker 2: In life?

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Speaker 3: Come on, you're a quote of the day stuff darks

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Speaker 3: and more dreams in ferry every.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I love that one. Well, at the moment,

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Speaker 1: my mission statement has become very different because it's very

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Speaker 1: like temporal towards a new chapter, and it's very go

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Speaker 1: with the flow and that everything unravels at the right time,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like we're so ready if we've got

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Speaker 1: if we'd be if we'd had a baby when we

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Speaker 1: first started trying, which was in COVID like five years ago,

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Speaker 1: I would be freaking out. I wouldn't feel as ready

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Speaker 1: as I do. I feel. I feel like this is

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Speaker 1: the perfect time. I've had such an amazing life pre motherhood.

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Speaker 1: I feel so ready for motherhood now. Nick is the same.

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Speaker 1: So my life motto is very much like life unravels

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Speaker 1: in chapters, and they're all different and they demand different

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Speaker 1: versions of you. And in business right now, it's obviously

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Speaker 1: my priorities towards work are taking a different form of

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Speaker 1: prioritization for the next little while, while I kind of

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Speaker 1: focus on family and putting that first for the first

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Speaker 1: time in a while. Overall, I think my if I

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Speaker 1: had to say one thing to anyone about your personal

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Speaker 1: life and your career or both, it's just that it's

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Speaker 1: not meant to look like anyone else's. Really, I think

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Speaker 1: all of everyone's problems or dissatisfaction or crisis of confidence

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01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: or like whatever it may be, is comparing to what

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Speaker 1: other people are doing.

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Speaker 2: Comparison is a thief of joy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but literally, it's that you benchmark yourself against what

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Speaker 1: like the only person's life you have to live is yours.

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Speaker 2: So wise, I've also decided from analysis of your responses

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Speaker 2: you respond to everything like you know when you're in

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01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: year five, and there's that narrative breakdown of how to paragraph.

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Speaker 3: Yours an introduction, paragraph, one, paragraph to conclusion.

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Speaker 2: So overall in summary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my low addition the questions in an ad

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Speaker 1: hoc way how to read op points. I con furthermore

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Speaker 1: to the undulation of the ground. However, thereby stand by

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Speaker 1: stop sign parentheses, ellipsis dot dot.

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Speaker 2: Dot relative clauses.

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Speaker 3: I can't find a job online. I can't find a

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Speaker 3: job online. I'm trying to change careers or anything.

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Speaker 2: What do I do?

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Speaker 1: That's a really hard one when you're and I feel

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Speaker 1: like I need more context of what you're jumping from

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Speaker 1: and what you want to jump to. But I think

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Speaker 1: my overall advice just when you're in a position where

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Speaker 1: you don't have a job and you need a job,

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Speaker 1: is that so much of what I talk about is

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Speaker 1: finding your joy and finding your passion and uniting what

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Speaker 1: you're good at with what you like. But there are

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Speaker 1: times in your life where that's not the main question.

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01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: That's not the luxury that you can afford. And the

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Speaker 1: temptation is like, don't accept anything less than what you

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Speaker 1: love and what you're passionate about. But if you are

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Speaker 1: struggling to find a job and you need to pay bills,

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01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: you need stability and certainty and like certain life needs

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Speaker 1: met before you can even contemplate what makes you joyful.

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Speaker 1: So I think find something that will allow you some

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Speaker 1: stability to make decisions later. And I know this sounds terrible. Basically,

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Speaker 1: when normally I would say don't settle, I would say,

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Speaker 1: just find something that really fits part of your criteria.

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Speaker 1: You don't need to wait for the one thing that's perfect.

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Speaker 1: If you just need to pay the bills, that's a

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Speaker 1: reality of life, and then the yay and the joy

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Speaker 1: and the fulfillment that can come later. But find something

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Speaker 1: that helps you get kind of a baseline first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you and I are similarly evolving into

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Speaker 3: that mindset of now that we have financial commitments. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a balance of what you need minimum and then

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Speaker 3: the once come after.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's a luxury to be able to say,

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Speaker 1: seize your ya and find a job you love.

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Speaker 2: Because not on this podcasts, but it is.

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Speaker 1: It's like the reality is not everyone can find a

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Speaker 1: job that they love, and not everyone wants a job

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01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: they love. Sometimes you want your passions to be outside

1407
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: of it. Sometimes you have to have your passions outside

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Speaker 1: of it. Like, not every joyful job pays well. So

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Speaker 1: I think find the job first and then work backwards

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Speaker 1: later into integrating joy.

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Speaker 3: Last question of the day, how did you get into

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Speaker 3: the job you're doing?

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Speaker 2: Now? That's like a whole episode myself.

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Speaker 1: No, that's like listen to every episode from here backwards.

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Speaker 1: That's a hard question in a really roundabout accidental way,

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01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,919
Speaker 1: never planned. It still get surprised by the directions it goes.

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Speaker 1: It goes in all the time. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what I do or how to explain it. But I

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01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: think a combination of like staying really open minded, the world,

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Speaker 1: I must say lucky timing of the world being like

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01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: evolved enough for us to all have these hybrid jobs

1422
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: that didn't exists before, having had amazing support network, lots

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01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: of great mentors and teachers and an amazing family who

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01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: supported me leaving law and all those kinds of things.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the overall answer is really by a complete accident, yes.

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Speaker 3: But not yes, yes, accident, and I don't think accident

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Speaker 3: per se.

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Speaker 2: I think it was perfect timing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and hard work.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, well, I think you built

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01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 3: a very great foundation with law and your communication skills

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Speaker 3: and your personal ability, and.

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Speaker 1: Then lots stop.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, so that is the end of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm cutting myself off.

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Speaker 2: But I did mean that you did work a lot

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Speaker 2: to get there.

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Speaker 3: And you've made you made amazing networks, not through like

1439
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 3: a you know, networking for network, but networking because you

1440
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 3: met people that you really enjoyed being with and were

1441
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 3: great with them and to them, and then that led

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01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 3: to another thing. And also you're very open minded with opportunities.

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01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 3: You're very much like this I've never done before, but

1444
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 3: I'm going to try it.

1445
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: Until I try it, I won't know. And then sometimes

1446
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: you're really enjoy and sometimes you don't. And then I.

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Speaker 3: Feel like that's part of how you've been able to

1448
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 3: kind of do so many different things like radio and

1449
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 3: presenting an MC to authoring a book, to podcasting to

1450
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 3: modeling to like it's all very much.

1451
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: Yes, give it a red hot crack.

1452
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: And I also think that the best thing you can

1453
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: do really is work really hard and build really good

1454
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: networks and not necessarily need to know what that's all

1455
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: for at the time. Like I've always kind of been

1456
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: setting foundations even if I didn't know why, and then

1457
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: those things have come to fruition like seven years later,

1458
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I didn't even know that going

1459
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 1: to that event and spending a little bit of extra

1460
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: time with that person would be important now. So it's

1461
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: like you don't need to know the plan all work out,

1462
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: but it doesn't need to work out straight away, but

1463
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: always be putting things in place suit that working hard

1464
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: to put them in place later.

1465
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 3: My favorite client that I ever got to work with

1466
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 3: was the guy that I COUCHSURFD with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, well you know when I was twenty two.

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01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: But then you kept that relationship on good term so

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01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: that then when it could come to fruition to something else,

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01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: it did versus I think some people are quite short

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01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: sighted when they're like, oh, there's nothing in this for

1472
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: me now, so like I don't need to keep in

1473
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: touch with that person, whereas I'm like, always be laying

1474
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 1: foundations for stuff you don't know who's going to be

1475
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: important later and then like the worst thing that can

1476
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: happen is it all comes together.

1477
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Speaker 2: And just be a good person. Be a good person,

1478
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: just like live lave love, live love love, my life,

1479
01:09:43,080 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 2: my love, my dream. Okay not