WEBVTT - Divine Or Delulu? The Bezos Wedding Post Mortem 0:00:10.622 --> 0:00:13.342 You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 0:00:13.822 --> 0:00:17.221 Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 0:00:17.222 --> 0:00:19.102 that this podcast is recorded. 0:00:18.662 --> 0:00:23.381 On Welcome to Mama Mia out Loud, where women come 0:00:23.462 --> 0:00:26.982 to debrief. I am Jesse Stevens, I'm Mia Friedman, and 0:00:27.022 --> 0:00:30.062 i'mm Vernon filling in for Holly and here is what 0:00:30.342 --> 0:00:33.342 is on our agenda for today, Monday, the thirtieth of June. 0:00:33.781 --> 0:00:35.781 The Liberal Party is in a world of pain and 0:00:35.862 --> 0:00:37.821 some people think they know how to fix it. We 0:00:38.022 --> 0:00:40.422 way into the debate that has been going on for 0:00:40.462 --> 0:00:41.822 more than thirty years. 0:00:42.382 --> 0:00:44.942 Jesse came in very hot this morning, desperate to talk 0:00:45.022 --> 0:00:48.022 about the viral documentary that she watched on the weekend, 0:00:48.022 --> 0:00:50.542 which I will never watch. So she's going to tell 0:00:50.622 --> 0:00:52.302 us everything that we need to know about it. 0:00:52.542 --> 0:00:55.782 And are we witnessing the downfall of dating apps? I 0:00:55.942 --> 0:00:57.502 have a lot of personal. 0:00:57.182 --> 0:01:00.382 Feelings, But first, if you were anywhere near the Internet 0:01:00.462 --> 0:01:03.062 on the weekend, you couldn't have missed the site of 0:01:03.142 --> 0:01:06.542 Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez getting married in Venice. 0:01:07.021 --> 0:01:09.702 I feel like you fell down that rabbit hole. I 0:01:09.742 --> 0:01:10.341 really did. 0:01:10.581 --> 0:01:14.062 I watched it like I would watch an Awards ceremony, 0:01:14.422 --> 0:01:16.301 you know, like the red carpet, but the red carpet 0:01:16.342 --> 0:01:18.942 went on for three days and involved boats. 0:01:19.182 --> 0:01:22.702 So everything I know about this wedding was against my 0:01:22.782 --> 0:01:25.822 consent because I just looked at my Instagram on a 0:01:25.862 --> 0:01:29.102 lovely Saturday morning, and not even just my Instagram, but 0:01:29.182 --> 0:01:32.622 my sub stack feed, my Facebook feed, my group chats. 0:01:32.942 --> 0:01:36.461 Everyone was so obsessed with this wedding. I struggle to 0:01:36.622 --> 0:01:40.862 think so deeply about something that I know no one 0:01:40.862 --> 0:01:43.462 will care about in like a few weeks except for 0:01:43.502 --> 0:01:45.941 the people who are just so so angry about it. 0:01:46.062 --> 0:01:50.142 I was harassed by a wedding to me I wasn't 0:01:50.142 --> 0:01:52.182 invited to, and if I was out a virus, VP 0:01:52.382 --> 0:01:52.822 no thank you? 0:01:53.782 --> 0:01:54.902 Well are you would have gone? 0:01:55.782 --> 0:01:58.542 A lot of people would have VP no thank you, 0:01:58.662 --> 0:02:01.982 but two hundred people said yes please. The groom wore 0:02:02.182 --> 0:02:04.622 new muscles in a spray tann, the bride wore boobs, 0:02:05.102 --> 0:02:07.782 and festivities began with a phone party and ended with 0:02:07.822 --> 0:02:09.502 a pajama and lingerie. 0:02:09.582 --> 0:02:12.422 Hardy guests my personal health well guests. 0:02:12.302 --> 0:02:16.062 Included Oprah, Avunka Trump, Lachlan and Sarah Murdoch, Sydney Sweeney, 0:02:16.061 --> 0:02:20.142 Bill Gates, Leonardo DiCaprio and my favorite description of the 0:02:20.142 --> 0:02:22.502 whole thing. I read a lot over the weekend about it, 0:02:22.502 --> 0:02:24.102 because a lot of people had a lot of feelings. 0:02:24.782 --> 0:02:28.102 My favorite was a series of Kardashians walk down a 0:02:28.142 --> 0:02:31.302 series of jetties wearing a series of ten thousand dollar bras. 0:02:31.782 --> 0:02:33.862 Some more quick numbers. The cost of the wedding was 0:02:33.942 --> 0:02:36.742 rumored to be around fifty million. There were, as I said, 0:02:36.782 --> 0:02:39.702 two hundred guests who arrived on ninety private jets. 0:02:39.742 --> 0:02:42.622 Okay, I have a comment on that, Yeah, because I'm 0:02:42.662 --> 0:02:48.102 not a mathematician, but that means that for each private jet, like, 0:02:48.102 --> 0:02:49.502 there's two people of private jet yees. 0:02:49.542 --> 0:02:52.181 So I did that match too, And at first I thought, oh, 0:02:52.222 --> 0:02:54.221 why would they only? But then I remembered the whole 0:02:54.222 --> 0:02:56.382 point of a private jet is that it's private. So 0:02:56.702 --> 0:02:59.742 if you're rich enough to have a private jet, it's 0:02:59.782 --> 0:03:00.302 your jet. 0:03:00.342 --> 0:03:02.222 But private let pool uber pool. 0:03:02.382 --> 0:03:02.702 Yeah. 0:03:02.782 --> 0:03:04.702 Like I went to a wedding recently. There was a 0:03:04.702 --> 0:03:06.462 bit of a drive. We got a minibus, you know 0:03:06.542 --> 0:03:08.622 what I mean. That was like, get a private jet 0:03:08.702 --> 0:03:11.262 and put twenty people on it. But the idea that 0:03:11.262 --> 0:03:13.862 the private jets are landing with two people on them 0:03:13.902 --> 0:03:17.061 I guess it's also their entourage, the hair and makeup. 0:03:16.782 --> 0:03:20.181 Yes to a group of five. I read that those 0:03:20.222 --> 0:03:23.062 two Rivera jets were the same amount of emissions as 0:03:23.102 --> 0:03:25.302 twenty seven thousand cars in one day. 0:03:25.622 --> 0:03:28.302 And I'm not buying any new clothes this year. And 0:03:28.382 --> 0:03:31.062 let me tell you watching that, I just went fuck 0:03:31.142 --> 0:03:31.582 it there. 0:03:32.462 --> 0:03:35.302 Well, you know who did buy some new clothes. Lauren Sanchez. 0:03:35.382 --> 0:03:38.622 She wore twenty seven different outfits, including adult chain ger 0:03:38.662 --> 0:03:40.662 bying a wedding dress that took nine hundred hours to 0:03:40.702 --> 0:03:43.542 make and reportedly cost several one hundred thousand dollars. We 0:03:43.622 --> 0:03:46.942 know this because Vogue covered it. They did a digital 0:03:46.942 --> 0:03:49.702 cover that they dropped over the weekend of her wedding dress, 0:03:49.702 --> 0:03:52.302 which you might have seen was the most covered up 0:03:52.342 --> 0:03:54.582 thing I think she's ever worn. It was very fitted. 0:03:55.102 --> 0:03:57.142 She said she didn't wanted to go bling bling. She 0:03:57.222 --> 0:04:00.182 wanted to be classic. And she said this occurred to 0:04:00.222 --> 0:04:03.182 her after she went up in Space and she said 0:04:03.222 --> 0:04:06.502 she wanted to last minute dress. I know. She said 0:04:06.542 --> 0:04:09.542 she really changed everything after Space because she was good 0:04:09.702 --> 0:04:13.982 to do the traditional sort of mermaid strapless look that 0:04:14.142 --> 0:04:17.421 she wears a lot, where her sort of bezongers are 0:04:17.462 --> 0:04:20.742 out the top and up high. But she said, no, 0:04:20.942 --> 0:04:22.261 I want to be classic and. 0:04:22.582 --> 0:04:26.381 More low key with my dress that took eight hundred 0:04:26.421 --> 0:04:29.701 thousand hours to make and sorry dresses. How many dresses 0:04:29.782 --> 0:04:30.342 did she put on? 0:04:30.421 --> 0:04:33.821 There were about twenty seven. We saw a few wedsses 0:04:33.941 --> 0:04:34.461 like the movie. 0:04:34.541 --> 0:04:36.301 That's why she did it, base change. I have a 0:04:36.342 --> 0:04:39.462 fashion question, please. I know you briefly talked about this 0:04:39.541 --> 0:04:42.021 last week, but is this not a bit of a 0:04:42.181 --> 0:04:45.262 tacky wedding for Vogue to jump on the. 0:04:45.301 --> 0:04:47.861 Vogue thing is really interesting because we're going to talk 0:04:47.861 --> 0:04:50.541 about all the big feelings first, and then we're going 0:04:50.582 --> 0:04:54.382 to talk about the scurollous gossip, because yes, it was 0:04:54.421 --> 0:04:57.741 a massive spectacle. And what I noticed the most about 0:04:57.741 --> 0:05:01.101 the coverage is that the people who were upset about 0:05:01.142 --> 0:05:04.382 it were really upset, and there was a weird kind 0:05:04.421 --> 0:05:08.821 of inverted snobbery where a lot of people who aren't 0:05:08.941 --> 0:05:12.141 rich we're turning up their noses and saying that the 0:05:12.262 --> 0:05:16.621 rich people were very tacky, as though there was some 0:05:17.101 --> 0:05:20.501 you know, arbiter of what's good taste and what's bad taste. 0:05:20.541 --> 0:05:22.861 The definition of good taste is just someone who shares 0:05:22.861 --> 0:05:24.181 whatever taste you have, and. 0:05:24.222 --> 0:05:27.581 I read that in terms of the incentive for Vogue 0:05:27.621 --> 0:05:29.902 to do this, a lot of the big designer houses 0:05:29.902 --> 0:05:32.902 are not doing so well at the moment financially right, 0:05:33.381 --> 0:05:36.981 and so you need the zero point zero zero zero 0:05:37.022 --> 0:05:39.342 one percent. Spent a lot of money at them, so 0:05:39.381 --> 0:05:42.342 it was like good publicity for adult chain, Gabana or 0:05:42.342 --> 0:05:45.022 whatever to go look at this dress and basically like 0:05:45.142 --> 0:05:47.142 it's a big ad and they've got to kind of go. 0:05:47.782 --> 0:05:50.581 It doesn't matter whether we endorse Lauren Sanchez. She is 0:05:50.582 --> 0:05:52.421 a vehicle now for us to sell our clothes. 0:05:52.741 --> 0:05:55.142 It's not just that though we're talking about it now. 0:05:55.541 --> 0:05:58.022 Something that I've read an interview with Anna Wintour recently, 0:05:58.022 --> 0:05:59.462 and I've read her biography, and it was a big 0:05:59.501 --> 0:06:03.062 weekend for her because she is stepping away from her 0:06:03.262 --> 0:06:05.062 role as editor in chief of Vogue. 0:06:05.061 --> 0:06:07.021 There were some funny jokes that were like, she put 0:06:07.222 --> 0:06:09.181 Laurence Sanchez on the cover of Vogue, and. 0:06:12.782 --> 0:06:14.822 People were really snobby in the same way that they 0:06:14.821 --> 0:06:16.621 were very snobby the first time she put the cut 0:06:16.662 --> 0:06:18.861 Ashians on the cover. I've read an interview with her 0:06:18.902 --> 0:06:20.821 where she talks about being on a plane and she 0:06:20.981 --> 0:06:24.342 was flying somewhere and sitting next to a man who 0:06:24.381 --> 0:06:26.142 was talking about I can't remember who was at the time, 0:06:26.142 --> 0:06:28.502 but it was a particular celebrity, and he said, oh, she'd 0:06:28.541 --> 0:06:30.461 never be on the cover of Vogue because that's just 0:06:31.301 --> 0:06:34.581 you know, that wouldn't be what Vogue is. And she said, 0:06:34.582 --> 0:06:36.822 I landed, and I booked that person straight away, because 0:06:36.821 --> 0:06:39.061 if someone's in the cultural conversation, the only way for 0:06:39.101 --> 0:06:42.541 these legacy media brands like Vogue to stay relevant is 0:06:42.582 --> 0:06:45.021 to be part of the cultural conversation. You don't have 0:06:45.101 --> 0:06:49.182 to agree with it, but if everybody's talking about Lauren Sanchez, yeah, 0:06:49.421 --> 0:06:50.342 Vogue got the scoop. 0:06:50.741 --> 0:06:57.422 See I could baland the TACKI conversation quite telling or interesting, right, 0:06:57.462 --> 0:07:00.301 because I was probably one of those people who felt 0:07:00.662 --> 0:07:05.421 sick watching this unfold over the weekend. The display of wealth, 0:07:05.462 --> 0:07:08.541 the vulgarity of the whole thing, the private jets. I 0:07:08.662 --> 0:07:11.742 found that horrific. But it's like, what, so if her 0:07:11.821 --> 0:07:14.141 dress was less tacky. I don't have a single opinion 0:07:14.142 --> 0:07:15.702 on that dress. I don't care about the dress at all. 0:07:16.022 --> 0:07:18.182 But if the dress was less tacky, then we could 0:07:18.262 --> 0:07:20.901 justify the exorbitant costs, Like I think our issue is 0:07:21.422 --> 0:07:24.582 with the money, and we have to place this within 0:07:24.622 --> 0:07:26.902 the context of a US right now that is giving 0:07:27.022 --> 0:07:29.982 tax breaks to billionaires at a time when they are 0:07:30.022 --> 0:07:33.782 wanting to cut health care for working people. That's why 0:07:34.182 --> 0:07:39.381 this event sort of transcended everything and kind of was 0:07:39.462 --> 0:07:43.102 so significant in the zeitgeist. I think that people horrified 0:07:43.102 --> 0:07:46.302 by billionaires and it felt as though it was being 0:07:46.702 --> 0:07:49.821 rubbed in our faces. It felt like the Hunger Games, 0:07:50.342 --> 0:07:53.622 where you've got these really rich people going. I know 0:07:53.742 --> 0:07:56.021 there's a cost of living crisis and you guys can 0:07:56.222 --> 0:07:59.141 barely afford rent right now, but I'm gonna wear this 0:07:59.342 --> 0:08:01.982 dress and come on my private jet. And it was 0:08:02.062 --> 0:08:05.102 this ekey like was it felt so tone deaf, but 0:08:05.142 --> 0:08:08.382 it felt intentional. It felt like an intentional performance of 0:08:08.502 --> 0:08:11.462 just like we are has and we want the have nots. 0:08:11.662 --> 0:08:13.622 I think you're completely right. I think a lot of 0:08:13.662 --> 0:08:18.022 people get tacky mixed up with loud yes. For me, like, 0:08:18.342 --> 0:08:21.222 back in my day, I never I didn't know a 0:08:21.262 --> 0:08:24.622 single billionaire, and now I know so many of them. Personally, 0:08:24.662 --> 0:08:27.582 I didn't know anything, but I didn't know a name 0:08:27.622 --> 0:08:29.862 of a single billionaire, and now I know so many 0:08:29.902 --> 0:08:30.182 of them. 0:08:30.302 --> 0:08:32.502 So which billionaires do you know what other billionaires do 0:08:32.542 --> 0:08:32.742 you know? 0:08:32.862 --> 0:08:38.021 I know Musk, I know Gates, it's JK Rowling. Still 0:08:38.062 --> 0:08:39.422 wantld did she donate that away? 0:08:39.822 --> 0:08:42.102 She did donate some. That's a good point yeeah. 0:08:42.222 --> 0:08:45.662 Do you know who has donated almost twenty billion dollars 0:08:46.102 --> 0:08:49.342 over the last few years is Mackenzie Bezos? Yeh, first 0:08:49.342 --> 0:08:50.102 wife of Jess. 0:08:50.342 --> 0:08:51.302 Is she still a billionaire? 0:08:51.302 --> 0:08:54.142 Though she still is because she got a lot more 0:08:54.182 --> 0:08:55.502 than that, Yeah, so you know her. 0:08:55.902 --> 0:08:58.422 Yeah. And it almost felt like if you're a billionaire, 0:08:58.822 --> 0:09:00.942 you had to kind of be a bit embarrassed about it, 0:09:01.022 --> 0:09:02.902 like you didn't want that many people to know, and 0:09:02.942 --> 0:09:05.342 you didn't want you were just really secretive about your money. 0:09:05.662 --> 0:09:07.862 And now you have these guys who, like, we know 0:09:07.942 --> 0:09:10.462 that the phone for the phone party helicopped it in 0:09:10.542 --> 0:09:13.822 because they had photographers, yea. Or the phone party. They 0:09:13.862 --> 0:09:16.182 want you to know every single part of what went 0:09:16.222 --> 0:09:18.462 on during that weekend exactly. 0:09:18.502 --> 0:09:21.102 Don't you find that part a little bit ugly? 0:09:21.102 --> 0:09:24.381 Mayn well to play Devil's advocate. People have always had 0:09:24.422 --> 0:09:26.702 over the top weddings, and not just rich people, you know, 0:09:26.742 --> 0:09:30.182 in terms of people of all different socioeconomic groups. Have 0:09:30.302 --> 0:09:34.742 always spent a huge amount of money compared to perhaps 0:09:34.782 --> 0:09:37.822 what they could otherwise do with that money on weddings, 0:09:37.902 --> 0:09:41.342 so that's not new. Also, rich people have always been rich. 0:09:41.422 --> 0:09:44.742 They've always had fancy things, they've had fancy jewelry, they've 0:09:44.822 --> 0:09:49.302 had ostentatious displays of their wealth. Now we're certainly seeing 0:09:49.302 --> 0:09:52.342 a reaction to the quiet luxury movement of the last 0:09:52.422 --> 0:09:56.662 few years. And that's what's so in a way fascinating 0:09:57.182 --> 0:09:59.142 to me about this. And it's not that I don't 0:09:59.182 --> 0:10:04.182 share your feelings, Jesse, but it's more the flagrant display. 0:10:04.542 --> 0:10:07.102 I find that interesting and I think. 0:10:06.902 --> 0:10:08.382 That it's no shame. 0:10:08.582 --> 0:10:11.102 No, there was always the sense of if you were 0:10:11.142 --> 0:10:14.942 really wealthy, it was very tacky to show displays of 0:10:14.982 --> 0:10:18.142 your wealth. That's what's quiet luxury. That's why it's always 0:10:18.142 --> 0:10:20.342 been something that you do behind closed doors, and that's 0:10:20.382 --> 0:10:23.582 more sheic. But the world has also changed. Firstly, you've 0:10:23.582 --> 0:10:26.062 got Donald Trump in charge, and he likes the gold toilet, 0:10:26.422 --> 0:10:29.542 and he likes everything gold, and even the whole Maga 0:10:29.582 --> 0:10:34.302 beauty ideal. It's not minimalist, and so I find that interesting. 0:10:34.462 --> 0:10:38.062 And I also find something about Lauren Sanchez interesting in 0:10:38.102 --> 0:10:42.742 that she genuinely isn't trying to impress and a winter 0:10:43.022 --> 0:10:46.342 really you know, like she has got a certain aesthetic 0:10:46.422 --> 0:10:52.182 that she likes, which is boobs out, huge amount of work, plastic, fantastic. 0:10:53.302 --> 0:10:56.062 She owns that she's not trying to be someone that 0:10:56.102 --> 0:10:59.942 she's not. If anything, he has changed to meet her 0:11:00.622 --> 0:11:04.622 kind of aesthetic, and he's now you know, jacked and 0:11:04.862 --> 0:11:07.542 fake tanned. And what struck me most about the picture 0:11:07.542 --> 0:11:10.102 that they posted. It was also so interesting to me 0:11:10.142 --> 0:11:13.862 that she wiped her Instagram clean and changed her handle 0:11:13.942 --> 0:11:16.462 to Lauren Sanchez Bezos. 0:11:16.182 --> 0:11:17.982 Like an hour after yeah, at. 0:11:17.822 --> 0:11:20.782 Like an album release, like talk about a rebranding, and 0:11:20.822 --> 0:11:22.982 then just had that photo. And the photo that they 0:11:23.022 --> 0:11:25.302 released of the two of them, what struck me was 0:11:25.342 --> 0:11:28.022 that neither of them were looking at each other, and 0:11:28.462 --> 0:11:32.622 he was so airbrushed and filtered he looked like a fetus. 0:11:33.222 --> 0:11:35.222 It was really interesting, Like I found the whole thing 0:11:35.302 --> 0:11:36.422 just a really rich text. 0:11:36.502 --> 0:11:38.582 It is such a rich text, but it just says 0:11:38.582 --> 0:11:41.702 a lot about where we are. And I don't think 0:11:41.742 --> 0:11:45.302 that you can subtract the Trump element, right because Bezos, 0:11:45.382 --> 0:11:48.662 let's remember, donated a million dollars to Trump, who is 0:11:48.742 --> 0:11:52.022 now rounding up immigrants in the US and deporting them, 0:11:52.422 --> 0:11:54.942 and so to see the celebrities, And I've grappled with 0:11:54.982 --> 0:11:59.702 this all weekend, where the celebrities attending a wedding is 0:11:59.742 --> 0:12:02.502 a tacit endorsement of the bride and groom and everything 0:12:02.502 --> 0:12:04.822 they believe. Because I'm sure I've been to weddings where 0:12:05.302 --> 0:12:06.742 I don't know how they voted. I don't know what 0:12:06.782 --> 0:12:09.702 they do in their spare time. But you can't go 0:12:09.742 --> 0:12:13.182 to Jeff Bezos's wedding and not know he's the Amazon dude. 0:12:13.222 --> 0:12:15.822 But what if he's a nice person. I'm not talking 0:12:15.862 --> 0:12:18.302 about the business side of what he does. That's a 0:12:18.302 --> 0:12:20.742 different thing. And what if by all accounts that I 0:12:20.782 --> 0:12:23.382 hear from anybody who knows anybody who knows Lauren Sanchez 0:12:23.422 --> 0:12:24.662 is that she's a really good time. 0:12:24.942 --> 0:12:26.662 Yeah, I supp it's like I should be a good time. 0:12:26.702 --> 0:12:29.822 I just saw a lot of conflicting ideologies. In one place, 0:12:29.902 --> 0:12:34.222 I found Oprah's presence unusual. I found Leonardo Dicaprioj, I know, 0:12:34.342 --> 0:12:37.022 has done an enormous amount for climate change. And you've 0:12:37.062 --> 0:12:40.822 got the stark contrast in our image, you know, based 0:12:40.862 --> 0:12:45.342 media of wildfires in Europe right now, which are climate 0:12:45.502 --> 0:12:48.942 change related. And then you've got what is descending upon Venice. 0:12:49.142 --> 0:12:53.902 You have the Amazon, like what that has done to 0:12:54.542 --> 0:12:57.502 the environment, to fossil fuels, to all of it. And 0:12:57.542 --> 0:12:59.742 then for Leonardo. 0:12:59.342 --> 0:13:04.302 DiCaprio to rie Co sign I know all the values 0:13:04.382 --> 0:13:06.942 of the bride and groom. Every time you're invited to 0:13:06.982 --> 0:13:07.702 a wedding. 0:13:07.662 --> 0:13:11.342 I wonder if you do you are in the spectacle 0:13:11.542 --> 0:13:12.382 in the way that they are. 0:13:12.422 --> 0:13:16.022 Wouldn't there be more dangerous if they didn't go? Just 0:13:16.142 --> 0:13:18.382 as we've seen the election and how much of these 0:13:18.382 --> 0:13:20.862 guys contributed to the election. These guys have all these 0:13:20.862 --> 0:13:24.182 celebrities in their pocket. Like if I was a Leonardo DiCaprio, 0:13:24.262 --> 0:13:26.262 I'd be like, well, this guy could like shut down 0:13:26.262 --> 0:13:27.622 my next movie. I have to go. 0:13:28.022 --> 0:13:30.582 And I also wondered, if I'm Leonardo DiCaprio and I'm 0:13:30.622 --> 0:13:34.182 trying to get funding and save this animal from going extinct, 0:13:34.662 --> 0:13:37.942 then Bezos's money is injecting a lot into that right now. 0:13:37.982 --> 0:13:40.342 Because remember I had to go deep because I was like, 0:13:40.382 --> 0:13:43.822 I need to know how Leo and Jeff know each other. 0:13:45.302 --> 0:13:48.222 This is my Roman empire, A weaken I remembered, do 0:13:48.262 --> 0:13:50.662 you remember a clip from years ago at an event, 0:13:50.742 --> 0:13:53.862 we don't know what the event was, and Laurence Sanchez 0:13:53.942 --> 0:13:56.382 is between Jeff and Leo and she's looking at Leo 0:13:56.542 --> 0:13:58.742 like she's trying to kiss him, like she's just enamored. 0:13:58.982 --> 0:14:01.622 And then Jeff Bezos tweeted and was like, hey, Leo, 0:14:01.702 --> 0:14:03.702 want to hang out And it was a thing about. 0:14:03.462 --> 0:14:04.982 A cliff didn't remember that. 0:14:05.942 --> 0:14:08.702 So they go to a lot of events stuff together. 0:14:08.822 --> 0:14:11.502 The one I can't work out is Sydney Sweeney. That 0:14:11.622 --> 0:14:13.102 is just I can't work that. 0:14:13.102 --> 0:14:14.902 That's a bit of a mystery. I'd like to move 0:14:14.942 --> 0:14:18.102 to scarless gossip. Briefly, what was she doing there? 0:14:19.102 --> 0:14:20.142 Can someone come up? 0:14:20.182 --> 0:14:22.942 She's with Ai, a twenty six year old up and 0:14:22.982 --> 0:14:28.182 coming actress. It's unclear whether she's connected to the bride 0:14:28.382 --> 0:14:31.302 or the groom. And what was interesting to me is 0:14:31.342 --> 0:14:33.662 that with two hundred people, they had a guest list 0:14:33.702 --> 0:14:35.302 of two hundred because they said they wanted it to 0:14:35.302 --> 0:14:37.062 be intimate. And people have rolled their eyes about two 0:14:37.102 --> 0:14:40.262 hundred being intimate. But when you two adult people, both 0:14:40.262 --> 0:14:43.422 on your second marriages, with grown up children, even just 0:14:43.502 --> 0:14:46.862 your families, would you know, blow out the guest list 0:14:46.902 --> 0:14:49.902 and various business people and friends you've accumulated through your life. 0:14:49.942 --> 0:14:51.662 I wonder if they said two hundred and it became 0:14:51.702 --> 0:14:54.142 three hundred. Yeah, because the amount of celebrities that's true. 0:14:54.182 --> 0:14:56.022 I don't know whis people forget? 0:14:56.222 --> 0:14:58.022 Is that did she hook up with Tom Brady? 0:14:58.062 --> 0:15:01.302 Well, weddings have a specific job, like the bride and groom. 0:15:01.342 --> 0:15:03.942 Their job is not only to get married, but they 0:15:04.022 --> 0:15:06.582 owe it to their single friends to set them up. 0:15:06.942 --> 0:15:09.022 Because a single person is there at a wedding. They've 0:15:09.022 --> 0:15:11.142 done all the like, hey, do you need help dressing 0:15:11.222 --> 0:15:13.462 up the table? Do you need help organizing the hotel? 0:15:13.742 --> 0:15:15.862 And there'll be one single person there. I reckon it 0:15:15.942 --> 0:15:17.742 had been like Jeff's cousin who's been single for his 0:15:17.782 --> 0:15:20.062 whole life. Yeah, and he's like, don't I man, I've 0:15:20.062 --> 0:15:22.742 got you. I'm gonna invite all of these girls for 0:15:22.782 --> 0:15:25.182 you to meet to Sydney Tom Brady. 0:15:25.222 --> 0:15:27.302 That's where Sydney came in. And there was theories that 0:15:27.342 --> 0:15:28.902 they paid people to come. I don't think they had 0:15:28.942 --> 0:15:31.222 to pay people to come. But is it a coincidence 0:15:31.222 --> 0:15:33.382 that Orlando Bloom had this in the calendar and he went, 0:15:33.622 --> 0:15:35.222 I'm going to relaunch at the wedding, because I think 0:15:35.222 --> 0:15:35.582 there's going. 0:15:35.582 --> 0:15:39.222 To be just a few days confirming that he'd split 0:15:39.222 --> 0:15:41.942 from Katy Perry, which is interesting because Katy Perry was 0:15:41.942 --> 0:15:44.862 at the bachelorette do in Paris for Lauren Sanchez went 0:15:44.942 --> 0:15:47.782 up in space of course, starting her astronaut career, but 0:15:48.142 --> 0:15:51.302 she's in Australia so she couldn't make it. And they 0:15:51.342 --> 0:15:53.382 obviously hang out together quite a lot. 0:15:53.222 --> 0:15:56.662 As a couple, exactly, and Orlando when they were a couple, 0:15:56.742 --> 0:15:58.062 he seemed to have a good time. 0:15:58.302 --> 0:16:01.142 Did he get custody of the couple Sanchez? 0:16:01.782 --> 0:16:05.822 I believe from reports and because I think we've all 0:16:05.822 --> 0:16:07.422 got to agree that the best part about a wedding, 0:16:07.462 --> 0:16:10.422 put that aside is the next day. It's when you 0:16:10.462 --> 0:16:12.102 wake up and you go who hooked up with her? 0:16:12.742 --> 0:16:16.142 What happened? What Auntie picked a fight with that person? 0:16:16.582 --> 0:16:19.302 Orlando had a glow, he did He's like with someone. 0:16:19.342 --> 0:16:20.862 I don't know who it was, but I believe that 0:16:20.902 --> 0:16:24.662 Sydney and Tom Brady definitely something happened there. They were 0:16:24.662 --> 0:16:27.422 walking around Venice the next day together. Orlando was kind 0:16:27.462 --> 0:16:30.062 of like coming. I think he also maybe liked to 0:16:30.062 --> 0:16:30.342 see me. 0:16:30.422 --> 0:16:33.702 Both Sydney Sweeney and Tom Brady know the value of 0:16:33.742 --> 0:16:37.382 a good pet walk. They do, and so if they 0:16:37.462 --> 0:16:40.942 had actually hooked up, I don't know. I think that 0:16:40.982 --> 0:16:43.382 they probably wouldn't have done that pet pork. I think 0:16:43.422 --> 0:16:47.422 the papwork was pretty calculated and worked very effectively. 0:16:47.142 --> 0:16:49.662 Won both Derif Oprah had to come because Gail had 0:16:49.662 --> 0:16:51.662 to go because of the time eleven minutes in space, 0:16:51.702 --> 0:16:53.302 Opra doesn't have to do any So then I feel 0:16:53.302 --> 0:16:54.782 like Gayale was like, Oprah, please, I don't want to 0:16:54.782 --> 0:16:55.142 go on my own. 0:16:55.222 --> 0:16:56.662 Well, she's the automatic plus one. 0:16:56.982 --> 0:16:58.662 Yeah, she's I think that she's the plus one. 0:16:58.662 --> 0:17:00.342 I really looked like she was having a great time. 0:17:00.462 --> 0:17:04.381 She did, and I also know that like Lauren Sanchez's cousin, 0:17:04.942 --> 0:17:08.341 who is I see as myself right went what the 0:17:08.341 --> 0:17:09.821 fuck do I wear to this wedding? And then she 0:17:09.862 --> 0:17:11.742 was like Sidney Sweeney's coming, She's like, what the fuck 0:17:11.782 --> 0:17:12.182 do I want? 0:17:12.262 --> 0:17:14.461 Like, well, Jesse, it's funny you should say that because 0:17:14.502 --> 0:17:18.022 the guests weren't told anything about any of the events 0:17:18.022 --> 0:17:20.142 for security reasons, so it was just like you've got 0:17:20.182 --> 0:17:21.821 to be here at this time. You'll be picked up 0:17:21.821 --> 0:17:23.901 from your hotel, and that's kind of all they were told, 0:17:24.101 --> 0:17:25.941 but they were given mood boards because there was a 0:17:25.982 --> 0:17:29.302 series events over the three days. The mood board. 0:17:29.341 --> 0:17:31.181 You would have loved that outfit. 0:17:30.861 --> 0:17:33.782 Which I wouldn't have understood, but that's incredibly helpful. 0:17:34.141 --> 0:17:37.101 That's why all the guests kind of were dressed similar 0:17:37.381 --> 0:17:38.101 for each. 0:17:38.141 --> 0:17:39.382 I don't know how to read a mood book. 0:17:39.381 --> 0:17:41.141 I definitely know Kim Cuttsian and wa what you wanted? 0:17:43.422 --> 0:17:44.702 Did not see the mood. 0:17:46.101 --> 0:17:49.061 She's her own mood board, But did you see? I 0:17:49.141 --> 0:17:50.981 loved the bit where they all had to wobble on 0:17:51.061 --> 0:17:52.861 and off jetties. That was great. 0:17:52.982 --> 0:17:54.422 Some of them are like being lifted. 0:17:54.621 --> 0:17:58.102 Yeah, some of them weren't that thrilled about that? 0:17:58.422 --> 0:17:59.742 Can I get a private jet to my job? 0:18:00.341 --> 0:18:02.941 Just the Kardashians alone, I think were about ten people, 0:18:03.141 --> 0:18:06.741 which is what ten people in two hundred? Someone do 0:18:06.821 --> 0:18:10.942 the mass that's like five percent five percent with Kardashians. 0:18:11.022 --> 0:18:14.022 Yeah, someone should have done the matter. 0:18:15.422 --> 0:18:18.502 In a moment. Does the Liberal Party need quotas for women? 0:18:18.702 --> 0:18:21.741 And the viral documentary I watched so you don't have to. 0:18:25.861 --> 0:18:28.141 We must be a liberal party that is proudly for 0:18:28.302 --> 0:18:31.462 women and made up of women. Our party must pre 0:18:31.502 --> 0:18:35.581 select more women in winnable seats so that we see 0:18:36.022 --> 0:18:38.302 more Liberal women in federal Parliament. 0:18:38.581 --> 0:18:41.941 The Liberal Party in Australia, we know, not only lost 0:18:41.982 --> 0:18:45.622 women in this year's election, but kind of lost everyone. 0:18:46.302 --> 0:18:49.901 Liberal Party leader Susan Lee says she will be as 0:18:49.942 --> 0:18:53.101 zelot for women's representation in the party, but says she 0:18:53.502 --> 0:18:58.221 is agnostic about how they get there. Friends, do you 0:18:58.302 --> 0:19:00.581 have a sense of how bad the Liberal Party's women 0:19:00.621 --> 0:19:03.021 problem is right now? Like you know, you hear it, 0:19:03.182 --> 0:19:05.901