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Speaker 1: So much you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia

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Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this

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Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill,

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Speaker 1: your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm

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Speaker 1: m Vernon, and welcome to the most important day of

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Speaker 1: the entire year. I'm not even being dramatic. It is

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Speaker 1: our Oscars recap day.

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Speaker 2: This isn't funny, how like everyone has their version of

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Speaker 2: the Oscars, but our Oscars is well.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's like how people say that's my super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: This is our super bowls our super Bowl. All I

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Speaker 1: know about the Super Bowl is who performs at halftime,

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Speaker 1: but that's neither here nor there. So yesterday, of course,

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Speaker 1: we did our big red carpet recap with our best

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Speaker 1: and worst looks and little scandals that happened. If you

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Speaker 1: But we had to watch the entire ceremony, all three

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Speaker 1: and a half hours of it, and then read all

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Speaker 1: the analysis or write the analysis afterwards to be prepared

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Speaker 1: for today. So we're going to go through the biggest shocks.

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Speaker 1: It was a shocking Oscars. We'll talk about it later.

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Speaker 1: I very rarely scream in the office, but I did yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad it was a shocking oscar, because if it wasn't,

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Speaker 2: then it would been the most boring.

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Speaker 1: Oscar we ever was exactly, so we had some shocks

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Speaker 2: Juice made up for the red carpet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, things were much more exciting we got inside. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go through all the biggest moments, starting with

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Speaker 1: the musical performance that kicks things off.

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh my god. It was one of those things

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Speaker 2: where you know when a show starts is like all

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Speaker 2: this like anticipation, and you kind of expect, like I

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Speaker 2: guess a countdown or something like it's a big game

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Speaker 2: like the Super Bowl, and then you just see on stage.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how they did the lighting, but it

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Speaker 2: like mesting my eyes. It was like these big black

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Speaker 2: and then this beautiful like ray of light that was

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Speaker 2: all different colors like a rainbow. And then Ariana Grande

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Speaker 2: was there in her big ruby ball gown.

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Speaker 1: With the ruby slipper shoes sticking out of the back

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Speaker 2: I don't lie down in that dress iconic, but.

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Speaker 2: With your back. And she opened the show with Somewhere over.

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Speaker 2: Like a very a cappella demure rendition of Somewhere over

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Speaker 2: the Rainbow, and then Cynthia Revo came out looking sted

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Speaker 1: As we said yesterday, I should have worn them down

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Speaker 1: the red carpet. Understand why they did it, but those

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Speaker 2: And then they gave the people what they wanted.

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Speaker 1: They sung for Good Together, which is obviously coming in

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Speaker 1: this second Wicked movie. And when I interview them this year,

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Speaker 1: So I love that they chose to sing that at

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Speaker 1: the Oscars. And then the way Ariana kind of floated

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sitting at my desk and I'm like, don't

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Speaker 2: And I loved her when even though it was like

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Speaker 2: camera angle kept shifting onto Ariana's face watching her sing,

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Speaker 2: Crime made me cry.

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Speaker 1: Yes exactly. I don't know. I know. Wicked didn't win

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Speaker 1: their year. But they did win Best Costume Design.

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Speaker 2: What a good speech.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, so good, the first black man to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really hope they win something. I just want

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Speaker 2: shut down right now. Yeah, they should have ended this show.

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Speaker 2: So after the big performance, we then have the monologue

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Speaker 2: from the host, which was Conan O'Brien, very funny man. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I have you watched. This is like the one YouTube

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Speaker 2: It's this YouTube video of Conan O'Brien with Kevin Hart

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Speaker 2: never seen this before, LB, you will cry.

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Speaker 1: Show it to me.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm going off track, but it's so important

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Speaker 2: the best thing I've ever watched. Everyone, we'll look at

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Speaker 2: So he opened up the show like the most gross

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Speaker 1: They did to be done personally, I.

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Speaker 2: Find it overplayed the whole backstage host, Hey, we're ready

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Speaker 1: It's over the quest. They pre film that all so

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Speaker 2: So they chose that iconic scene from Substance where Demi

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Speaker 2: some crazy things and a new person emerges from her.

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Speaker 2: Except the person who emerges from this demimour was Conan O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: He literally comes out of her body is so and

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Speaker 2: I thought his monologue was decent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, that's a tough room. That's a tough gig.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's always said it's hard to Now I think he

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Speaker 1: think this year that's kind of what OSCARS needed.

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Speaker 2: had to say that. There's no way he could have

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Speaker 2: passed it. But he did say something about someone in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what he said.

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Speaker 5: Nora uses the F word four hundred and seventy nine times.

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Speaker 5: That's three more than the record set by Carlo Sofia

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Speaker 5: Gascon's publicist.

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Speaker 1: You tweeted what.

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Speaker 5: Carlos Sophia Gascon is here tonight and yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: And Carla, if you are going to tweet about the Oscars,

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Speaker 2: I feel like he had to say something like that,

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Speaker 2: But what was shocked me was the amount of applause

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look, that's a tough road to walk,

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Speaker 1: that whole situation derailed a million Peres from winning everything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, also, thank god because that's I have seen

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Speaker 1: And oh, I would love to know what happened this moment.

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Speaker 1: There's a moment of her walking over to greet Selena Gomez.

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Speaker 1: They're kind of sitting together, not in the same row,

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Speaker 1: and you can see Carlo Sophia Gascon leaning over to

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Speaker 1: give Selena a kiss. It's hard to tell just a

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Speaker 1: couple of photos, but the look on Selena's face was

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Speaker 1: not great because not only did Selena talk about the

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Speaker 1: magic of the movie being gone after the scandal, but

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Speaker 1: some of the unearthed tweets were terrible things about Selena

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Speaker 1: Gomez before they worked together, so she had two reasons

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Speaker 1: to be upset. Oh no, So that was a bit

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Speaker 1: of an awkward Oscars front row. And for people who

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Speaker 1: facets to the Amelia Perez scandals that were not just

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Speaker 1: about the tweets, but obviously that was a huge part

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Speaker 1: of them, the lead of the movie having all these

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Speaker 1: tweets uncovered that she had previously sent out that were racist, homophobic,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Conan went into a bit of a

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Speaker 1: But before that, who a little cameo? The greatest man

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Speaker 7: What you're wearing.

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Speaker 8: Nobody even thought about what I was wearing.

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Speaker 6: Look cause I'm a good person.

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Speaker 5: But I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: And I also have never heard a person Hollywood say

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Speaker 7: It turns out she said that because she didn't think

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Speaker 7: after the show, we're walking through a parking lot. She's

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Speaker 7: I said, really, I want four, and she turned me.

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Speaker 7: I swear to God, this habitage just over a year ago.

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Speaker 7: She said, I will give you four when you win,

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Speaker 7: and osk her I should alway should think my mom

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Speaker 1: No, that was wild because because I know the history

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Speaker 1: family was very messed up. They had so many children.

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Speaker 1: They pushed McCauley, particularly into show business, took a lot

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Speaker 1: of his money. He emancipated himself early to get away

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Speaker 1: when he's like, to my parents, you did the best

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Speaker 2: Also felt if you didn't know about their situation. It

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Speaker 2: like it sounded like he was difficult to raise. So

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Speaker 2: it was like, you did the best you could with me.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I guess because I'm so like I've just

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Speaker 2: It's shitty because when you do know, you're like, you've

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Speaker 1: Such a tough life. All those kids in that family

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Speaker 2: And it's true they like, I hate that they don't talk.

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Speaker 2: The only time I've seen him mention his brother kind

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Speaker 2: it was the Critics Awards Red Carpet and an interviewer

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Speaker 2: asked him, who do you think Wire winning the fight?

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Speaker 2: The Scar's card brothers or you guys, And he's like.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen those brothers that massive?

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Speaker 2: Can I quickly talk about something that deeply upset me?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Please go ahead, the biggest waste of my time.

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Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna say, and.

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Speaker 2: Everyone else's time. Who watched the Oscars? If you watch

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Speaker 2: personally for what happened. It was after the ad break

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Speaker 2: and the camera is like, focus on Margot Quali's don't

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Speaker 2: She was on stage? Is she presenting award? We find

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Speaker 2: out quickly she's not presenting award. She's doing some weird, smiley, cheeky,

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Speaker 1: Yes, she does have a big dance background, but I

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Speaker 2: It was not the time someone who else? If you

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Speaker 2: have been watching Taylorsift's aerostall all over your tinkert feed,

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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't notice that. I noticed that.

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Speaker 2: Look at Me Pop classic at You. So they do

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Speaker 2: a dance number and you're like, oh, this is like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they're doing like a non to all different

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Speaker 2: And then someone starts singing. And then you hear someone

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Speaker 2: about recently because she's in the late season of White Loads.

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Speaker 1: She's just killing it right now.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, brilliant singer, classic James Bond song. We were all

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Speaker 1: And they're having all women sing? Is it going to

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Speaker 1: We were ready to accept.

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Speaker 2: And then I was first like, wait, is Lisa James Bond?

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Speaker 1: I'm not that from Black Pink?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 7: Sure?

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Speaker 2: And then Doja Cat came on and she's also singing

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Speaker 1: She was fabulous, fabulous?

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Speaker 8: Is she James Bond?

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Speaker 1: So I'm okay with that, But if she wasn't James Bond.

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Speaker 2: She wasn't James Bond. And then Ray came on stage,

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Speaker 2: So we're like, oh, okay, after everyone sings, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: was the point of that whole thing? Like, I love

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Speaker 2: James Bond, I know you do. I love all those movies,

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Speaker 1: I haven't been able to find an answer to this.

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Speaker 2: The fact that we're trying to understand.

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Speaker 1: I was like, is it an anniversary of James Bond?

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Speaker 1: I don't think it easily it is. They're keeping that

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Speaker 2: I was like, is Idris Elber there, because that's the

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Speaker 1: and that's how they announced.

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Speaker 2: That's what I thought it was going to be. And

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Speaker 1: Kate, It's like, well exactly doja cats like, I'm just here,

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Speaker 1: probably never seen a James Bond movie. Look, I know

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Speaker 1: you can pay for some advertising. Women and the Little

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Speaker 1: Mermaids showed their trailer at the Oscars. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: And I was like, if you've got the money to

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Speaker 2: But you know, even if you didn't show the actual

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Speaker 1: And then it just all peered away. I do have

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Speaker 1: Oscars is having the people who perform the songs who

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Speaker 1: brought the house down, but.

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Speaker 2: They weren't nominated.

433
00:19:12,584 --> 00:19:14,464
Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, no, they weren't. This is a thing.

434
00:19:14,504 --> 00:19:17,224
Speaker 1: No one who was nominated for Best Song performed this year.

435
00:19:17,584 --> 00:19:19,704
Speaker 1: That's very rare for that not to happen, And I

436
00:19:19,784 --> 00:19:21,584
Speaker 1: just think they weren't a bunch of bangers this year.

437
00:19:21,584 --> 00:19:24,024
Speaker 1: But also Best Song was won by Amelia Perez, the

438
00:19:24,144 --> 00:19:27,544
Speaker 1: scandal filled Amelia Perez and everyone. Honestly, that would have.

439
00:19:27,464 --> 00:19:30,424
Speaker 2: Been better than Well, they're like, we don't want the Amelia.

440
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Speaker 1: Press people to sing, even though they did sing when

441
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Speaker 1: they accepted their award. They're getting in so much trouble

442
00:19:34,264 --> 00:19:35,144
Speaker 1: for it. People hate them.

443
00:19:35,424 --> 00:19:37,984
Speaker 2: But that was awkward. I'm glad we're not talking about

444
00:19:37,984 --> 00:19:39,464
Speaker 2: that because I don't think I'm able to get through it.

445
00:19:39,464 --> 00:19:40,504
Speaker 2: That was so awkward.

446
00:19:40,544 --> 00:19:42,704
Speaker 1: So I think they were just like, hey, we're not

447
00:19:42,784 --> 00:19:45,504
Speaker 1: having all these best song performances. We need something to

448
00:19:45,544 --> 00:19:47,144
Speaker 1: break up the night and fill this three and a

449
00:19:47,184 --> 00:19:49,744
Speaker 1: half hour run time. Let's just get all the girls

450
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Speaker 1: into sing James Bond and all the cool girls too,

451
00:19:52,064 --> 00:19:55,104
Speaker 1: like a Doja Cat and Lisa And because the Oscars,

452
00:19:55,304 --> 00:19:57,384
Speaker 1: as we all are in media, are desperately trying to

453
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Speaker 1: bring in a younger audience. Yeah, they're trying, really and

454
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Speaker 1: they thought this was their way in.

455
00:20:01,344 --> 00:20:02,784
Speaker 2: But they thought they could do it with the red

456
00:20:02,784 --> 00:20:05,184
Speaker 2: carpet and they're like, ah shit, there's stressed the same Yeah,

457
00:20:05,304 --> 00:20:07,424
Speaker 2: how are we going to beg So they brought in

458
00:20:07,464 --> 00:20:09,224
Speaker 2: Doja Cat and she's like, I'm good, but I'm not

459
00:20:09,264 --> 00:20:12,624
Speaker 2: that good anyway. If you have any theories on why

460
00:20:12,704 --> 00:20:15,344
Speaker 2: the James Bond thing happened, please let us know. But

461
00:20:15,944 --> 00:20:17,104
Speaker 2: I think we could have done without it.

462
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Speaker 1: Well, it was just a little early Mark. It was

463
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Speaker 1: just a lot to go from Ariana and Cynthia too.

464
00:20:22,984 --> 00:20:24,304
Speaker 2: If anything, they should have led with that.

465
00:20:24,584 --> 00:20:29,264
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, getting onto some big awards for the night.

466
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Speaker 1: So it was really no surprise that Adrian Brody won

467
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Speaker 1: Best Actor for the Broodlers. He'd had a pretty clean

468
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Speaker 1: awards sweep all season. I mean there was a world

469
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Speaker 1: in which Timothy Shallowy won because he won it a

470
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Speaker 1: sad he was the only close contender. Also, I know

471
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Speaker 1: we were ragging a lot on Timothy Y're saying our

472
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Speaker 1: red Carpet Special for ditching his mum and the cheap

473
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Speaker 1: seeds and having Kylie Jenner in the front row, which

474
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Speaker 1: he did. But just before they announced Best Actor, Kylie

475
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Speaker 1: Jenner got up from her seat moved behind them. They

476
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Speaker 1: brought his mum in like a seat filler and put

477
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Speaker 1: her next to him so that she could be next

478
00:21:00,864 --> 00:21:03,464
Speaker 1: to him just in case he won, so.

479
00:21:03,344 --> 00:21:05,384
Speaker 2: That they Jenna boot out.

480
00:21:06,024 --> 00:21:08,104
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly who was in that seed? That's the thing

481
00:21:08,104 --> 00:21:12,424
Speaker 1: at the Oscars, there's no empty seat jail. It couldn't

482
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Speaker 1: be announced because he was hustled out that he started

483
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Speaker 1: for two seconds. But it was cute because then when

484
00:21:18,264 --> 00:21:20,464
Speaker 1: he lost him with Ea Challoween leaned around and Kyli

485
00:21:20,504 --> 00:21:22,784
Speaker 1: Jenner passed him on the lips. So h was fine.

486
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Speaker 2: She's quite interesting.

487
00:21:23,664 --> 00:21:25,784
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would never do that, Like, can I get

488
00:21:25,784 --> 00:21:27,504
Speaker 1: back to my seat? Like put me back in the back,

489
00:21:27,824 --> 00:21:30,584
Speaker 1: back up with the moms. So Adrian Brody won. He

490
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Speaker 1: had previously won more than twenty two years ago, which

491
00:21:32,944 --> 00:21:36,304
Speaker 1: is the whole thing about him. Passion CALLI emotional man,

492
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Speaker 1: isn't he? Yeah, like every person when he won the award,

493
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Speaker 1: he literally looked into the soul of every person who

494
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Speaker 1: congratulated him.

495
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Speaker 2: It was wild. And then he threw his gum at

496
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Speaker 2: his wife.

497
00:21:47,504 --> 00:21:50,064
Speaker 1: Okay, that was I don't think they're married, but they're

498
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Speaker 1: not married. No, that's even worse.

499
00:21:53,304 --> 00:21:58,024
Speaker 2: So a situationship called his gum. There are some things

500
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Speaker 2: I do for a man that is not it.

501
00:21:59,464 --> 00:22:01,504
Speaker 1: I know, and like you have to do a lot

502
00:22:01,544 --> 00:22:03,744
Speaker 1: to give Georgina Chapman the egg because she was married

503
00:22:03,784 --> 00:22:07,344
Speaker 1: to Harvey Weinstein's right. She has started in that room

504
00:22:07,384 --> 00:22:09,744
Speaker 1: and seen some terrible things for many years. And I

505
00:22:09,824 --> 00:22:12,544
Speaker 1: just imagine I catch that gun, being like and I'm done.

506
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Speaker 2: But she looks so young.

507
00:22:13,944 --> 00:22:16,464
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she was looking gorgeous. She's a fashion designer,

508
00:22:16,504 --> 00:22:19,624
Speaker 1: she's always got Yeah. So she was married to him.

509
00:22:19,704 --> 00:22:21,904
Speaker 1: They had two kids, and then when all of the

510
00:22:21,984 --> 00:22:24,944
Speaker 1: allegations came out against him, against the sexual assault, the rape,

511
00:22:24,944 --> 00:22:28,304
Speaker 1: the blackmail, everything, they divorced. Soon after that. A lot

512
00:22:28,344 --> 00:22:31,384
Speaker 1: of women were and yeah, it's fair enough. And then

513
00:22:31,464 --> 00:22:33,104
Speaker 1: it was a whole big thing when she and Adrian

514
00:22:33,184 --> 00:22:34,984
Speaker 1: Brody met and fell in love and they've been together

515
00:22:34,984 --> 00:22:37,224
Speaker 1: for many years. This is kind of like beautiful love story.

516
00:22:37,224 --> 00:22:39,304
Speaker 1: And he like briefly was like mentioning her kids, who

517
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Speaker 1: he's like a stepfather to, although to my knowledge they're

518
00:22:41,824 --> 00:22:44,544
Speaker 1: not officially married. If they are, they've kept that very quiet.

519
00:22:44,704 --> 00:22:47,984
Speaker 1: But yeah, he jumped up on stage, didn't sexually harass

520
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Speaker 1: anyone stage, which is growth for him.

521
00:22:49,544 --> 00:22:50,144
Speaker 2: That's quite nice.

522
00:22:50,184 --> 00:22:52,544
Speaker 1: But he pulled the gum out of his mouth. You're right,

523
00:22:52,544 --> 00:22:55,824
Speaker 1: and he turned around and maybe this is what people

524
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Speaker 1: in love do. I don't know. I don't know what

525
00:22:57,944 --> 00:23:00,664
Speaker 1: people in love do. But Georgina Chapman ran forward with

526
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Speaker 1: her hands out to catch it. I didn't like that.

527
00:23:03,864 --> 00:23:07,944
Speaker 2: And your gun though, really yeah, I would not catch yours. Okay,

528
00:23:08,344 --> 00:23:10,944
Speaker 2: not even if I was desperate and you were like, whoa,

529
00:23:11,464 --> 00:23:13,704
Speaker 2: what is she going to do? Well, I mean unless

530
00:23:13,704 --> 00:23:16,504
Speaker 2: that gum was you literally lived with like five bottles

531
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Speaker 2: of hands, it wouldn't be fine.

532
00:23:18,584 --> 00:23:20,424
Speaker 1: True, Well, that's why I don't want to touch it.

533
00:23:20,464 --> 00:23:22,384
Speaker 1: Maybe if your gum was like about to hit a

534
00:23:22,424 --> 00:23:24,504
Speaker 1: bomb and it was about to block the entire world

535
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Speaker 1: and I was the only one who could save it

536
00:23:25,824 --> 00:23:27,504
Speaker 1: by catching the gup, even then I'd hesitate.

537
00:23:27,544 --> 00:23:28,504
Speaker 2: Okay, that's quite extreme.

538
00:23:28,584 --> 00:23:31,144
Speaker 1: Well, I obviously don't love you like a Chapman or

539
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Speaker 1: that I love you Jesus cute of us.

540
00:23:34,304 --> 00:23:34,424
Speaker 6: Then.

541
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Speaker 1: Also my question is, because the camera was on him,

542
00:23:37,184 --> 00:23:39,824
Speaker 1: did she stand there through that whole acceptance speech holding

543
00:23:39,864 --> 00:23:41,024
Speaker 1: that chewed gum in her hand?

544
00:23:41,024 --> 00:23:43,384
Speaker 2: No, because I actually zoomed in on the video, she missed.

545
00:23:44,344 --> 00:23:46,464
Speaker 1: She didn't catch it. She's not that good.

546
00:23:46,744 --> 00:23:51,424
Speaker 2: Oh no, So it flew past her and no, imagine

547
00:23:51,504 --> 00:23:53,944
Speaker 2: it landed like close to his seat. Luckily land on

548
00:23:53,944 --> 00:23:55,984
Speaker 2: the floor, didn't hit anyone. Oh my god, embarrassing.

549
00:23:56,104 --> 00:23:56,744
Speaker 1: Can you imagine?

550
00:23:56,784 --> 00:23:57,984
Speaker 2: And she ran back to the seat.

551
00:23:58,144 --> 00:24:00,544
Speaker 1: Harry started spitting on Chris Pine all over again. Oh

552
00:24:00,584 --> 00:24:00,864
Speaker 1: my god.

553
00:24:00,944 --> 00:24:02,824
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Pine would have definitely caught that.

554
00:24:04,784 --> 00:24:05,144
Speaker 5: Well.

555
00:24:05,224 --> 00:24:08,544
Speaker 2: I mean, is speech though when I talk about that,

556
00:24:08,824 --> 00:24:10,784
Speaker 2: and it didn't intermission too long?

557
00:24:10,904 --> 00:24:13,184
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was like a beautiful speech. He's been

558
00:24:13,264 --> 00:24:14,144
Speaker 1: up here before. Yeah.

559
00:24:14,144 --> 00:24:15,664
Speaker 2: They tried to play him off and he's like, don't

560
00:24:15,704 --> 00:24:18,184
Speaker 2: do that. I've done it before. It's not my first

561
00:24:18,264 --> 00:24:19,544
Speaker 2: ro You've had two goes.

562
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Speaker 6: Acting is a very fragile profession. It looks very glamorous,

563
00:24:25,264 --> 00:24:29,304
Speaker 6: and at certain moments it is. But the one thing

564
00:24:29,344 --> 00:24:32,224
Speaker 6: that I've gained having the privilege to come back here

565
00:24:32,664 --> 00:24:37,864
Speaker 6: is to have some perspective and no matter where you

566
00:24:37,904 --> 00:24:41,584
Speaker 6: are in your career, no matter what you've accomplished, it

567
00:24:41,624 --> 00:24:45,384
Speaker 6: can all go away. Please please, I'm wrapping up. I

568
00:24:45,424 --> 00:24:47,664
Speaker 6: will wrap up. Please turn the music up. I've done

569
00:24:47,704 --> 00:24:48,704
Speaker 6: this before, thank you.

570
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Speaker 2: It's not my first.

571
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Speaker 6: Rodeo, but I will I will be brief. I will

572
00:24:54,304 --> 00:24:55,504
Speaker 6: not be agreedious, I promise.

573
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Speaker 5: Well.

574
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Speaker 2: I was kind of fine with that. The boys are fine,

575
00:24:57,744 --> 00:24:59,904
Speaker 2: but the women, I mean, it was all about the women.

576
00:24:59,944 --> 00:25:01,344
Speaker 2: It was all about the and the piece of gum.

577
00:25:01,544 --> 00:25:04,304
Speaker 1: But I mean, obviously Amelia Perez is not a good movie.

578
00:25:04,344 --> 00:25:06,544
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say a lot of controversy

579
00:25:06,584 --> 00:25:10,864
Speaker 1: around it. But Zoe Saldana winning her first Oscar again.

580
00:25:10,904 --> 00:25:12,704
Speaker 1: I was in tears as she was walking to the stage.

581
00:25:12,824 --> 00:25:14,184
Speaker 2: Every time she's one, I've been in tears.

582
00:25:14,344 --> 00:25:16,904
Speaker 1: She's one all the way through. Not that that matters,

583
00:25:16,944 --> 00:25:18,264
Speaker 1: We'll get to that later. She was on all the

584
00:25:18,304 --> 00:25:20,664
Speaker 1: way through. But when her name was called out and

585
00:25:20,704 --> 00:25:22,264
Speaker 1: she got to the stage and she was trying not

586
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Speaker 1: to cry, and then she's calling out and people are

587
00:25:24,384 --> 00:25:26,424
Speaker 1: racking on her for this. People are making fun of her,

588
00:25:26,424 --> 00:25:27,784
Speaker 1: And to that, I say, how dare you?

589
00:25:28,064 --> 00:25:28,504
Speaker 2: Why?

590
00:25:28,664 --> 00:25:30,904
Speaker 1: Well, she was calling out mommy, mommy, because she could

591
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Speaker 1: see her. She was looking for I would have done

592
00:25:32,424 --> 00:25:34,664
Speaker 1: that audio. And then she saw her mom and she

593
00:25:34,704 --> 00:25:36,744
Speaker 1: was like mom. It was like the cutest thing. I

594
00:25:36,744 --> 00:25:38,464
Speaker 1: don't care if she's a woman in her forties with

595
00:25:38,504 --> 00:25:40,384
Speaker 1: three kids. You can call out to your mom if

596
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Speaker 1: you want to.

597
00:25:41,144 --> 00:25:43,464
Speaker 2: Oh, I was so freaking cute. I hate people calling

598
00:25:43,464 --> 00:25:44,184
Speaker 2: her out, how dare you?

599
00:25:47,704 --> 00:25:50,584
Speaker 4: My mom is here, my whole family's here. I am

600
00:25:51,224 --> 00:25:54,464
Speaker 4: floored by this honor. Thank you to the Academy.

601
00:25:54,664 --> 00:25:56,944
Speaker 1: I thought she gave a really emotional and well thought

602
00:25:56,944 --> 00:25:58,784
Speaker 1: out speech, and I loved her shout out to her

603
00:25:58,824 --> 00:26:00,704
Speaker 1: hot husband when she was like, I love your hair.

604
00:26:01,224 --> 00:26:01,624
Speaker 1: He does have.

605
00:26:03,144 --> 00:26:05,104
Speaker 2: The caraman's doing overtime.

606
00:26:06,184 --> 00:26:09,464
Speaker 1: Hair. They met on a plane, which I find crazy

607
00:26:09,544 --> 00:26:13,904
Speaker 1: because it's the overall speech so lovely.

608
00:26:14,024 --> 00:26:17,904
Speaker 4: Here. I am floored by this honor. Thank you to

609
00:26:17,944 --> 00:26:24,744
Speaker 4: the Academy for recognizing the quiet heroism and the power

610
00:26:24,784 --> 00:26:25,664
Speaker 4: and a woman.

611
00:26:25,864 --> 00:26:29,344
Speaker 9: Like Rita and talking about.

612
00:26:29,064 --> 00:26:32,944
Speaker 4: Powerful women to my mom, my dad, and my sister's

613
00:26:33,024 --> 00:26:33,744
Speaker 4: mania and.

614
00:26:35,864 --> 00:26:39,504
Speaker 3: Everything brave, outrageous and good that I've ever done in

615
00:26:39,544 --> 00:26:40,904
Speaker 3: my life is because of you.

616
00:26:41,504 --> 00:26:42,424
Speaker 9: Thank you so much.

617
00:26:42,504 --> 00:26:45,824
Speaker 3: And to my husband with that beautiful hair.

618
00:26:45,784 --> 00:26:46,464
Speaker 7: You're just.

619
00:26:51,904 --> 00:26:54,304
Speaker 4: The biggest honor in my life is being your partner.

620
00:26:54,784 --> 00:26:57,864
Speaker 4: You hung the moon in our beautiful, perfect suns Cy

621
00:26:58,024 --> 00:26:58,824
Speaker 4: Bowie and Zen.

622
00:26:59,224 --> 00:27:02,384
Speaker 9: They fill our skies every night with stars.

623
00:27:02,864 --> 00:27:07,024
Speaker 4: My grandmother came to this country in nineteen sixty one.

624
00:27:07,544 --> 00:27:15,424
Speaker 3: I am a proud child of immigrant parents with dreams

625
00:27:15,464 --> 00:27:19,304
Speaker 3: and dignity and hard working hands. And I am the

626
00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:23,744
Speaker 3: first American of Dominican origin to accept an Academy award.

627
00:27:23,744 --> 00:27:26,184
Speaker 9: And I know I will not be the last I

628
00:27:26,344 --> 00:27:26,784
Speaker 9: hold the.

629
00:27:29,064 --> 00:27:33,784
Speaker 3: Bag that I'm getting an award for a role where

630
00:27:33,784 --> 00:27:36,464
Speaker 3: I got to sing and speak in Spanish.

631
00:27:36,784 --> 00:27:37,784
Speaker 2: My grandmother, if.

632
00:27:37,704 --> 00:27:39,504
Speaker 8: She were here, she would be so delighted.

633
00:27:39,544 --> 00:27:43,144
Speaker 3: This from my grandmother, Adhinthina say say thank you so much.

634
00:27:43,024 --> 00:27:43,944
Speaker 2: For Jack dassiask.

635
00:27:45,224 --> 00:27:47,864
Speaker 1: So that was lovely and also a moment like she

636
00:27:47,944 --> 00:27:49,984
Speaker 1: walks off stage and she's got herself together, she's all

637
00:27:49,984 --> 00:27:52,584
Speaker 1: composed after giving a speech, and then there's a camera

638
00:27:52,624 --> 00:27:54,144
Speaker 1: on the side of the stage at court there she

639
00:27:54,184 --> 00:27:57,264
Speaker 1: walks off, she looks down at Oskar and just starts sobbing.

640
00:27:58,424 --> 00:28:00,424
Speaker 1: I kind of had a moment where she's like, oh yeah,

641
00:28:00,504 --> 00:28:03,144
Speaker 1: I just won. That starts sobbing, and it's just like

642
00:28:03,184 --> 00:28:04,704
Speaker 1: you know how like you just do those ugly cry

643
00:28:04,744 --> 00:28:07,464
Speaker 1: faces where your whole face scrunches up. It was that

644
00:28:07,544 --> 00:28:09,224
Speaker 1: kind of cry, which is the best kind of cry.

645
00:28:09,384 --> 00:28:11,664
Speaker 1: So after you when you're a you go straight into

646
00:28:11,704 --> 00:28:15,264
Speaker 1: the media room where there's about thirty to forty Cedar

647
00:28:15,344 --> 00:28:18,384
Speaker 1: journalists and a whole bunch of other journalists online. Straight

648
00:28:18,384 --> 00:28:20,664
Speaker 1: out you answer yeah, yeah, you answer all your questions.

649
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Speaker 1: You shouldlways get a little breather. You also get your

650
00:28:23,264 --> 00:28:25,344
Speaker 1: Oscar engraved with your name, because I don't have names

651
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Speaker 1: on them until you win. Okay they screw up.

652
00:28:28,744 --> 00:28:29,824
Speaker 2: Well they've done that before.

653
00:28:29,904 --> 00:28:31,824
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. No, it's meant for the surprise, and it's

654
00:28:31,824 --> 00:28:33,704
Speaker 1: the whole thing to get your Oscar engrave. You go

655
00:28:33,744 --> 00:28:36,104
Speaker 1: and do all the speeches, you take a bunch of photos,

656
00:28:36,144 --> 00:28:37,704
Speaker 1: and then you can go back to your seat. So

657
00:28:37,904 --> 00:28:39,904
Speaker 1: Zoe Saldana went into the media room and there were

658
00:28:39,944 --> 00:28:42,504
Speaker 1: lots of lovely questions. But one of the big things

659
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Speaker 1: about Amelia Peyers that people have been upset about is

660
00:28:45,144 --> 00:28:48,624
Speaker 1: that they think it is very racist towards Mexican people.

661
00:28:48,704 --> 00:28:51,824
Speaker 1: They also think it appropriates Mexican culture, and there are

662
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Speaker 1: a few journalists in the room of Mexican descent who

663
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Speaker 1: were really upset and they asked Zoe Saldana about it.

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Speaker 1: So in her Oscar speech she was having to sort

665
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Speaker 1: of face that criticism head on.

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00:29:02,144 --> 00:29:05,984
Speaker 10: Hello, SUI I'm Christine Ivan. Yes, I'm from Webebia, representing

667
00:29:06,024 --> 00:29:09,784
Speaker 10: Census Inning, which is a Mexican outlet. I get to

668
00:29:09,864 --> 00:29:13,944
Speaker 10: say that it has been a lot of things has

669
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Speaker 10: been said about the movie about trans people, about empowering women,

670
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Speaker 10: but lets has been said about Mexico, which is the

671
00:29:24,064 --> 00:29:24,784
Speaker 10: heart of it.

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Speaker 2: So what would you say about.

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Speaker 10: The heart of this movie, but also about the topic

674
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Speaker 10: who is really hurtful for US Mexicans.

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Speaker 9: First of all, I'm very very sorry that you and

676
00:29:40,384 --> 00:29:45,104
Speaker 9: so many Mexicans felt offended. That was never our intention

677
00:29:45,744 --> 00:29:47,784
Speaker 9: we spoke. We came from a place of love, and

678
00:29:47,784 --> 00:29:51,784
Speaker 9: I will stand by that. I don't share your opinion.

679
00:29:52,264 --> 00:29:55,464
Speaker 9: For me, the heart of this movie was not Mexico.

680
00:29:55,824 --> 00:29:58,104
Speaker 9: We weren't making a film about a country. We were

681
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Speaker 9: making a film about four women. And these women could

682
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Speaker 9: have been Russian, could have been Dominican, could have been Black,

683
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Speaker 9: from Detroit, could have been from Israel, could have been

684
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Speaker 9: from Gaza. And these women are still very universal women

685
00:30:12,144 --> 00:30:16,344
Speaker 9: that are struggling every day that trying to survive systemic

686
00:30:16,384 --> 00:30:20,784
Speaker 9: oppression and trying to find their most authentic voices. So

687
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Speaker 9: I will stand by that. But I'm also always open

688
00:30:24,264 --> 00:30:26,944
Speaker 9: to sit down with all of my Mexican brothers and

689
00:30:26,984 --> 00:30:30,584
Speaker 9: sisters and with love and respect, having a great conversation

690
00:30:30,984 --> 00:30:33,944
Speaker 9: on how Amelia could have been done better. I have

691
00:30:33,984 --> 00:30:37,904
Speaker 9: no problem. I welcome it. Thank you, thank you so much, congratulations,

692
00:30:37,984 --> 00:30:38,864
Speaker 9: thank you so much.

693
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Speaker 2: That was such a strong statement it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not my place to sort of say

695
00:30:43,064 --> 00:30:45,544
Speaker 1: whether that was right or wrong. She didn't dance around anything, no,

696
00:30:45,584 --> 00:30:47,024
Speaker 1: But I think the good thing was that she went

697
00:30:47,064 --> 00:30:50,544
Speaker 1: into that room very prepared for those questions. I mean,

698
00:30:50,544 --> 00:30:52,064
Speaker 1: the thing is you can caveat that I'm not going

699
00:30:52,104 --> 00:30:53,944
Speaker 1: to answer any questions about this, and that you can't

700
00:30:53,984 --> 00:30:55,664
Speaker 1: do it as much in the Oscars room. But she

701
00:30:55,704 --> 00:30:57,904
Speaker 1: could have chosen not to answer those questions. But I

702
00:30:57,904 --> 00:31:00,424
Speaker 1: feel like she felt very prepared, like she practiced unded

703
00:31:00,464 --> 00:31:03,304
Speaker 1: it her whole Oscars. To us, she's won all these

704
00:31:03,344 --> 00:31:06,144
Speaker 1: different awards even before the tweets came out. There was

705
00:31:06,144 --> 00:31:08,184
Speaker 1: so much controversy around this movie that she's had to

706
00:31:08,224 --> 00:31:10,904
Speaker 1: always have these answers ready. But I just thought that

707
00:31:10,944 --> 00:31:13,024
Speaker 1: was interesting to go from that moment on stage to

708
00:31:13,144 --> 00:31:15,464
Speaker 1: that reckoning in the press room. But I also think

709
00:31:15,464 --> 00:31:17,624
Speaker 1: it's very fair enough for those journalists to ask that question.

710
00:31:17,784 --> 00:31:20,984
Speaker 2: Yeah, when like statements like that happen, like what it

711
00:31:21,064 --> 00:31:23,784
Speaker 2: is kind of the aftermath of it. Because for me,

712
00:31:23,944 --> 00:31:25,824
Speaker 2: I feel like once you win your Oscar, you're kind

713
00:31:25,824 --> 00:31:28,224
Speaker 2: of done and then you move on to the next thing.

714
00:31:28,544 --> 00:31:30,544
Speaker 2: But I feel like with Amelia Perez with all the

715
00:31:30,584 --> 00:31:33,544
Speaker 2: controversy that's happened around it, like not just with Carlo

716
00:31:33,584 --> 00:31:37,504
Speaker 2: Savia Gascon, but also like representation and what's right and

717
00:31:37,504 --> 00:31:40,064
Speaker 2: what's wrong? Is this like something that's likely to just

718
00:31:40,104 --> 00:31:43,464
Speaker 2: follow them ongoing, especially if they're winning awards.

719
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Speaker 1: I mean to an extent. I mean, once you win

720
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Speaker 1: the Oscar, you do then have a couple more days

721
00:31:48,264 --> 00:31:49,904
Speaker 1: like big press, I mean straight afterwards, like you go

722
00:31:49,984 --> 00:31:51,904
Speaker 1: into a room with thirty journalists and you get hammered

723
00:31:51,904 --> 00:31:55,304
Speaker 1: with questions for quite an extensive amount of time. Then

724
00:31:55,344 --> 00:31:57,424
Speaker 1: you go backstage and you do, like maybe like the

725
00:31:57,464 --> 00:31:59,864
Speaker 1: bigger trade publications, you do a few solo one on

726
00:31:59,864 --> 00:32:01,984
Speaker 1: one interviews, and then when you go to all the

727
00:32:02,024 --> 00:32:03,864
Speaker 1: different after parties, you go along the line and do

728
00:32:03,904 --> 00:32:05,824
Speaker 1: all the interviews. So if you've just had a big

729
00:32:05,864 --> 00:32:07,904
Speaker 1: win and everyone loves you, that's a lovely time. But

730
00:32:07,904 --> 00:32:10,184
Speaker 1: if you're Zoe cel Dannia or anyone like that who

731
00:32:10,704 --> 00:32:12,784
Speaker 1: is coming from a controversial movie, you're gonna have to

732
00:32:12,784 --> 00:32:15,944
Speaker 1: answer those questions over and over again. It's interesting how

733
00:32:15,984 --> 00:32:19,184
Speaker 1: like this movie hasn't tainted her in any way. It

734
00:32:19,264 --> 00:32:21,784
Speaker 1: seems that people have firmly fallen into this camp now,

735
00:32:22,144 --> 00:32:24,584
Speaker 1: because the thing is, I'm like, everyone's separating her from

736
00:32:24,584 --> 00:32:26,624
Speaker 1: the Actually, yeah, they're like, we love zoe we hate

737
00:32:26,624 --> 00:32:28,184
Speaker 1: this movie. I mean, they did win Best Song, but

738
00:32:28,424 --> 00:32:31,184
Speaker 1: coming into this they had a historic amount of Oscar

739
00:32:31,264 --> 00:32:34,384
Speaker 1: nominations thirteen. That's huge. They were the favorite to win.

740
00:32:34,664 --> 00:32:36,624
Speaker 1: The fact that they didn't even win Best Foreign Film,

741
00:32:36,624 --> 00:32:39,664
Speaker 1: which seemed like such a lock coming into this, goes

742
00:32:39,704 --> 00:32:42,024
Speaker 1: to show how deep kind of the backlash against this

743
00:32:42,104 --> 00:32:44,304
Speaker 1: movie was. But I think Zoey Sadana has been in

744
00:32:44,304 --> 00:32:47,704
Speaker 1: the industry for thirty years just so much, and she's

745
00:32:47,904 --> 00:32:50,344
Speaker 1: from my knowledge, I haven't interviewed her, but reading the

746
00:32:50,464 --> 00:32:53,064
Speaker 1: accounts of everyone's who's interviewed her, she's never walked into

747
00:32:53,104 --> 00:32:54,624
Speaker 1: a room and said, don't ask me about this or that.

748
00:32:54,704 --> 00:32:56,944
Speaker 1: She said to everyone, ask me anything, I will answer,

749
00:32:57,224 --> 00:32:58,864
Speaker 1: which I think has been the right way to play it,

750
00:32:59,384 --> 00:33:05,104
Speaker 1: smart lady. So, coming into the Oscars, as we've said previously,

751
00:33:05,144 --> 00:33:06,744
Speaker 1: it did seem like a little bit of a boring

752
00:33:06,984 --> 00:33:09,984
Speaker 1: show because the same people had won over and over again.

753
00:33:10,024 --> 00:33:14,064
Speaker 1: Adrian Brodie, Demi Moore, Kieran Colkin's always sel Dania. It

754
00:33:14,104 --> 00:33:15,864
Speaker 1: felt like such a lock of who was gonna win

755
00:33:15,904 --> 00:33:17,184
Speaker 1: and they were gonna get up and give the same

756
00:33:17,224 --> 00:33:20,464
Speaker 1: acceptance speeches. And for most of the night that did happen.

757
00:33:20,904 --> 00:33:23,224
Speaker 1: But so we have finished recording I read carpet episode.

758
00:33:23,264 --> 00:33:25,264
Speaker 1: We went back out into the office in the Mummy

759
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Speaker 1: editorial section and we had these big TVs on the wall.

760
00:33:28,144 --> 00:33:30,944
Speaker 1: Everyone was watching the Oscars. The Best Actress section came

761
00:33:30,984 --> 00:33:33,344
Speaker 1: on and we all turned around, just so ready to

762
00:33:33,384 --> 00:33:36,504
Speaker 1: watch Demi Moore give the same iteration of the speech

763
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Speaker 1: she's given a few times that she's been very good

764
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Speaker 1: at giving. Yeah, and then Emma Stone read out Mikey

765
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Speaker 1: Madison's name, And when I tell you, I gassed.

766
00:33:47,944 --> 00:33:50,544
Speaker 2: I heard it all the way from my seat. Yeah, grisly,

767
00:33:50,664 --> 00:33:52,744
Speaker 2: we sit very very far apart.

768
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not my choice, maybe it's your, but yeah,

769
00:33:55,904 --> 00:33:59,904
Speaker 1: I gasped so loud because it was so shocking, because yes,

770
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Speaker 1: Mikey Madison won the Bafter and has been like the

771
00:34:03,264 --> 00:34:06,504
Speaker 1: only contentious person in the mix with Demi Moore. But

772
00:34:06,624 --> 00:34:09,544
Speaker 1: Demi Moore has had almost a clean sweep towards the Oscars,

773
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Speaker 1: and also the fact that she won the sag Award,

774
00:34:11,704 --> 00:34:15,544
Speaker 1: which has the biggest overlap between voters, and she looked

775
00:34:15,584 --> 00:34:18,064
Speaker 1: shocked as well. The camera cut away from Demi Moore

776
00:34:18,144 --> 00:34:21,304
Speaker 1: quite quickly, and she.

777
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Speaker 2: Even the cameraman was like, oh, was like, oh, I'm

778
00:34:23,344 --> 00:34:23,984
Speaker 2: more than the wrong person.

779
00:34:24,064 --> 00:34:24,224
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Everyone just runs to Mikey Madison and you see Demi

781
00:34:27,344 --> 00:34:29,744
Speaker 1: Moore look to the person next to her like quite shocked.

782
00:34:29,824 --> 00:34:31,544
Speaker 1: They've had the lip readers out of course, and the

783
00:34:31,584 --> 00:34:34,344
Speaker 1: body language experts and stuff, and apparently she just said nice,

784
00:34:34,944 --> 00:34:37,664
Speaker 1: but I think it would be very hard to be

785
00:34:37,784 --> 00:34:40,464
Speaker 1: sitting in that audience and have this huge build up

786
00:34:40,504 --> 00:34:43,184
Speaker 1: and everyone tell you're gonna win. And she like walked

787
00:34:43,224 --> 00:34:45,784
Speaker 1: this line of this Oscars campaign of doing everything right.

788
00:34:45,864 --> 00:34:48,904
Speaker 1: Like Oscar's campaigns are one on like speeches and stories

789
00:34:48,944 --> 00:34:51,584
Speaker 1: just as much as they are on performance, and Demi

790
00:34:51,584 --> 00:34:54,504
Speaker 1: Moore had had like she'd had a textbook campaign, done

791
00:34:54,544 --> 00:34:57,624
Speaker 1: everything right. She's sitting in the audience after like forty

792
00:34:57,664 --> 00:35:00,144
Speaker 1: years in the industry, she's ready to get her first Oscar,

793
00:35:00,184 --> 00:35:02,784
Speaker 1: for her very first Oscar nomination, and then it goes

794
00:35:02,824 --> 00:35:03,624
Speaker 1: to Mikey Madison.

795
00:35:03,984 --> 00:35:06,064
Speaker 2: Wow, this is very serial.

796
00:35:09,024 --> 00:35:11,664
Speaker 8: Forget me of us. I'm going to read off of

797
00:35:11,664 --> 00:35:15,584
Speaker 8: a paper, but thank you so much to the academy

798
00:35:15,624 --> 00:35:19,664
Speaker 8: I grew up in Los Angeles, but Hollywood always felt

799
00:35:19,704 --> 00:35:23,424
Speaker 8: so far away from me. So to be here standing

800
00:35:23,424 --> 00:35:28,064
Speaker 8: in this room today is really incredible. Thank you Neon

801
00:35:28,344 --> 00:35:33,104
Speaker 8: Film Nation Universal. Thank you to my incredible family, my

802
00:35:33,544 --> 00:35:35,784
Speaker 8: mom and my dad, and my sister, and my little

803
00:35:35,784 --> 00:35:39,064
Speaker 8: brother and my twin brother, Miles. Thank you for being

804
00:35:39,104 --> 00:35:40,144
Speaker 8: my best friend.

805
00:35:40,144 --> 00:35:42,544
Speaker 9: Not that you have a choice.

806
00:35:42,944 --> 00:35:47,904
Speaker 2: Mikey Madison her first attendance at the Oscars, her first nomination,

807
00:35:48,144 --> 00:35:51,824
Speaker 2: and her first win. I was really happy. I was true,

808
00:35:51,904 --> 00:35:55,504
Speaker 2: because she's brilliant and annoymous and Nora is the better performance,

809
00:35:55,544 --> 00:35:57,304
Speaker 2: like it just Demi Moore was great in a substance.

810
00:35:57,344 --> 00:35:59,144
Speaker 1: But I mean, you and I have been diehard a

811
00:35:59,224 --> 00:36:01,104
Speaker 1: Nora fannygirls. We're basically and remember like.

812
00:36:01,104 --> 00:36:03,304
Speaker 2: Right from the beginning when the nominations were out and

813
00:36:03,344 --> 00:36:05,624
Speaker 2: we were both like, how sad are we going to be?

814
00:36:05,624 --> 00:36:07,464
Speaker 2: Because it's not She's not going to win well.

815
00:36:07,344 --> 00:36:09,744
Speaker 1: Exactly because when A Nora first came out and when

816
00:36:09,784 --> 00:36:12,384
Speaker 1: it first won the palmduor like the big award at

817
00:36:12,384 --> 00:36:15,024
Speaker 1: the carn Film Festival in May, we were saying, like,

818
00:36:15,184 --> 00:36:17,784
Speaker 1: Anora is going to be the film that sweeps the Oscars,

819
00:36:18,024 --> 00:36:21,344
Speaker 1: And then once award season started Anora really peed it

820
00:36:21,344 --> 00:36:24,184
Speaker 1: out and he went to every award show barely won anything.

821
00:36:24,584 --> 00:36:27,304
Speaker 1: Mikey Anderson won a BAFTA, but pretty much they walked

822
00:36:27,304 --> 00:36:30,384
Speaker 1: away empty handed, and so then it got pushed aside.

823
00:36:30,424 --> 00:36:31,864
Speaker 1: And for a while there everyone's like, it's going to

824
00:36:31,864 --> 00:36:34,784
Speaker 1: be Amelia Perez. They've got so many nominations. And then

825
00:36:34,824 --> 00:36:37,304
Speaker 1: when Amelia Perez was knocked out by the controversy, then

826
00:36:37,344 --> 00:36:40,824
Speaker 1: everyone's like, hey, Conclave right there. And then also Conclave

827
00:36:40,944 --> 00:36:43,544
Speaker 1: was winning a few Oscars like Best Adapted Screenplay early

828
00:36:43,624 --> 00:36:46,184
Speaker 1: in the night, and so you're like, maybe it's gonna

829
00:36:46,184 --> 00:36:48,344
Speaker 1: come from behind and win. Its exact kind of movie

830
00:36:48,344 --> 00:36:51,384
Speaker 1: the Oscars love, although they have diversified their voting over

831
00:36:51,424 --> 00:36:53,984
Speaker 1: the years. But as the night went on, like things

832
00:36:53,984 --> 00:36:56,424
Speaker 1: started to tip in a Nora's favor, so Sean Baker

833
00:36:56,624 --> 00:37:00,744
Speaker 1: won for Screenplay, he won Best Director. Anora also won

834
00:37:00,784 --> 00:37:04,224
Speaker 1: Best Editing, which infamously has a huge crossover with Best Picture,

835
00:37:04,784 --> 00:37:07,864
Speaker 1: and he actually set a record. He tied with Walt Disney,

836
00:37:08,264 --> 00:37:11,384
Speaker 1: that old guy. You might have heard him. He tied

837
00:37:11,424 --> 00:37:13,544
Speaker 1: with Walt Disney for the most Oscar wins by person

838
00:37:13,544 --> 00:37:16,184
Speaker 1: in one night, with four. So it was actually a

839
00:37:16,304 --> 00:37:19,144
Speaker 1: huge sweet, but when Mikey Madison's name was called out,

840
00:37:19,304 --> 00:37:20,984
Speaker 1: it was hard because you, like, that was such a

841
00:37:21,024 --> 00:37:23,224
Speaker 1: good performance. And the oscars are not meant to be

842
00:37:23,704 --> 00:37:26,144
Speaker 1: about your career as a whole, but over time they

843
00:37:26,184 --> 00:37:27,584
Speaker 1: have because like.

844
00:37:27,584 --> 00:37:29,904
Speaker 2: We may as well give her one. She works so hard.

845
00:37:29,904 --> 00:37:33,104
Speaker 1: Exactly like they do sometimes become about like who deserves one,

846
00:37:33,104 --> 00:37:34,424
Speaker 1: who's been in the industry the longest.

847
00:37:34,424 --> 00:37:36,744
Speaker 2: It's not fair. It should be about the actual performance.

848
00:37:36,824 --> 00:37:38,944
Speaker 1: I know, but some years the wrong person wins, or

849
00:37:38,944 --> 00:37:41,424
Speaker 1: some years the categories are two stacks, So it has

850
00:37:41,504 --> 00:37:45,264
Speaker 1: become practice to give people it's time Oscar Leonardo DiCaprio

851
00:37:45,344 --> 00:37:48,384
Speaker 1: is one, and it's time Oscar, Kate Winslet, Sandra Bullock,

852
00:37:48,624 --> 00:37:51,424
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt, They've all gotten awards for a movie that

853
00:37:51,504 --> 00:37:53,944
Speaker 1: was just fine but not their best performance. But everyone's like,

854
00:37:53,984 --> 00:37:56,224
Speaker 1: this is for us to show you that we've seen

855
00:37:56,264 --> 00:37:58,584
Speaker 1: the thirty years of work you've done, and here's an

856
00:37:58,584 --> 00:38:01,424
Speaker 1: a participation award. And Demimore was supposed to win that,

857
00:38:01,544 --> 00:38:03,424
Speaker 1: and you could kind of see the shock on her face.

858
00:38:03,464 --> 00:38:04,904
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people like because I

859
00:38:04,944 --> 00:38:06,664
Speaker 1: wrote a piece about last night, a lot people message

860
00:38:06,664 --> 00:38:08,144
Speaker 1: you mean bank, don't put words in her mouth, and

861
00:38:08,144 --> 00:38:10,304
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not Maybe she was fine, but also

862
00:38:10,344 --> 00:38:13,064
Speaker 1: so it's also very fine for her to be very

863
00:38:13,184 --> 00:38:17,264
Speaker 1: very upset. Angela Bassett in twenty twenty three got absolutely

864
00:38:17,304 --> 00:38:19,984
Speaker 1: slammed online because when she lost to Jamie Lee Curtis,

865
00:38:20,104 --> 00:38:22,904
Speaker 1: she looked very visibly upset, and everyone called her a

866
00:38:22,904 --> 00:38:25,664
Speaker 1: horrible person. And later on she gave an interview and said,

867
00:38:25,944 --> 00:38:27,584
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to be upset up a lot of work

868
00:38:27,624 --> 00:38:30,384
Speaker 1: in and I thought I deserved it, and I was upset,

869
00:38:30,584 --> 00:38:33,464
Speaker 1: I know, and I think normalized being upset in the

870
00:38:33,464 --> 00:38:35,824
Speaker 1: audience when you don't win the award that you thought

871
00:38:35,864 --> 00:38:37,304
Speaker 1: you were going to win, you thought you deserved.

872
00:38:37,704 --> 00:38:40,664
Speaker 2: That is so true. It reminds me of the Super Bowl.

873
00:38:40,464 --> 00:38:40,664
Speaker 6: You know.

874
00:38:41,504 --> 00:38:44,104
Speaker 1: In What Wait? Also, they go halfway through the Oscar

875
00:38:44,824 --> 00:38:46,584
Speaker 1: Brian comes out and says, what did he say?

876
00:38:46,584 --> 00:38:47,744
Speaker 2: He was like, I was waiting for Kenny.

877
00:38:47,824 --> 00:38:49,944
Speaker 1: He's like, if we're halftime three, which I guess means

878
00:38:49,944 --> 00:38:52,384
Speaker 1: it's time for Kendrick to come out and call Drinker cataphile.

879
00:38:54,384 --> 00:38:56,784
Speaker 2: But it did actually remind me of the Super Bowl

880
00:38:57,144 --> 00:39:00,864
Speaker 2: because I was watching the snippet of Jason Kelsey because

881
00:39:00,864 --> 00:39:02,824
Speaker 2: he had that little reality thing going on with his

882
00:39:02,864 --> 00:39:06,104
Speaker 2: life where he lost the Super Bowl and Travis won,

883
00:39:06,584 --> 00:39:08,264
Speaker 2: and he was talking to his kids, how we can

884
00:39:08,304 --> 00:39:11,184
Speaker 2: be happy for Travis but still sad, and his wife

885
00:39:11,464 --> 00:39:14,304
Speaker 2: was like, we can be happy for uncle Travis tomorrow.

886
00:39:14,664 --> 00:39:15,904
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's true.

887
00:39:15,984 --> 00:39:17,984
Speaker 2: Let them be happy for the person who want tomorrow.

888
00:39:18,144 --> 00:39:19,824
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's allowed to be sad.

889
00:39:19,864 --> 00:39:20,064
Speaker 5: Now.

890
00:39:20,104 --> 00:39:22,984
Speaker 2: I'm sad for you, but I'm also very happy because

891
00:39:22,984 --> 00:39:24,984
Speaker 2: I really like Mikey Madison and she deserved to win.

892
00:39:25,064 --> 00:39:27,824
Speaker 1: I know. Willonora was our favorite joint movie, so good.

893
00:39:27,944 --> 00:39:29,864
Speaker 1: It's one of the best movie experiences. It's not the

894
00:39:29,864 --> 00:39:31,864
Speaker 1: best movie you've ever seen, that's a big call, but.

895
00:39:31,824 --> 00:39:34,064
Speaker 2: It's the best of last year that I've.

896
00:39:33,904 --> 00:39:36,384
Speaker 1: Seen, one hundred percent. Best movie of twenty twenty four. Yeah,

897
00:39:36,424 --> 00:39:38,864
Speaker 1: love No s Feratu as well. Oh Wick, It's a

898
00:39:38,864 --> 00:39:41,424
Speaker 1: whole different ball game because that had a twenty year

899
00:39:41,424 --> 00:39:43,264
Speaker 1: build up. I'm taking that out of the running. That's

900
00:39:43,264 --> 00:39:45,184
Speaker 1: a different thing. But Honora was the best movie of

901
00:39:45,184 --> 00:39:47,224
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, but also one of the best movie

902
00:39:47,224 --> 00:39:51,584
Speaker 1: watching experiences because we were like screaming, laughing, crying so

903
00:39:51,704 --> 00:39:54,024
Speaker 1: much that in silence for ten minutes after works like

904
00:39:54,304 --> 00:39:55,744
Speaker 1: that's a movie. That's a movie.

905
00:39:55,944 --> 00:39:56,944
Speaker 2: It's a good movie.

906
00:39:57,224 --> 00:39:59,184
Speaker 1: So then it was coming down to Best Picture, which

907
00:39:59,224 --> 00:40:00,984
Speaker 1: is the big one. And even right now I was like,

908
00:40:01,064 --> 00:40:03,024
Speaker 1: I was on the edge of my seat because the

909
00:40:03,344 --> 00:40:05,624
Speaker 1: deme more thing could happen. Upset, I was like, what

910
00:40:05,664 --> 00:40:08,624
Speaker 1: could happen? It could be any movie except Amelia Press.

911
00:40:08,904 --> 00:40:13,504
Speaker 1: Also our poor Timothy Chalamey and his they anything, I

912
00:40:13,584 --> 00:40:14,824
Speaker 1: don't believe.

913
00:40:14,464 --> 00:40:15,984
Speaker 2: So and you were going to say a great unknown.

914
00:40:15,984 --> 00:40:17,624
Speaker 2: It's the complete unknown.

915
00:40:17,784 --> 00:40:20,024
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the movie that I still can't pronounce norminated

916
00:40:20,024 --> 00:40:23,024
Speaker 1: for eight awards one nothing, the worst performer of the night.

917
00:40:23,344 --> 00:40:25,664
Speaker 1: I don't say that with joy. Oh you would because

918
00:40:25,664 --> 00:40:26,144
Speaker 1: you hated it.

919
00:40:26,224 --> 00:40:28,424
Speaker 2: I liked it though, Yeah, And I feel like I

920
00:40:28,464 --> 00:40:30,904
Speaker 2: could easily now vote for the Oscar because I feel

921
00:40:30,904 --> 00:40:32,384
Speaker 2: like we're all on the same page.

922
00:40:32,544 --> 00:40:32,744
Speaker 6: Year.

923
00:40:33,384 --> 00:40:35,144
Speaker 1: They're like, Bob Dylan was invited, he didn't want to

924
00:40:35,144 --> 00:40:41,344
Speaker 1: come as cool as Bob Dylan. Oh look, Wicked didn't

925
00:40:41,344 --> 00:40:43,624
Speaker 1: have a good run either. Nominated for ten one two.

926
00:40:43,704 --> 00:40:45,624
Speaker 1: But this always happens when people know this a part

927
00:40:45,624 --> 00:40:47,904
Speaker 1: two coming. They're like, you're going to get yours next year,

928
00:40:48,504 --> 00:40:50,704
Speaker 1: which is fine. The only sad thing about that is

929
00:40:50,744 --> 00:40:54,704
Speaker 1: that Zoe Saldana like that wasn't her best performance. Overall,

930
00:40:54,744 --> 00:40:58,064
Speaker 1: she's great, but I almost want to say Ariana was

931
00:40:58,824 --> 00:41:01,624
Speaker 1: really great in Wicked, in a plot twist no one

932
00:41:01,664 --> 00:41:05,904
Speaker 1: saw coming, really good, and that is notoriously like Glinda's

933
00:41:06,064 --> 00:41:08,944
Speaker 1: biggest moments are in part one. So I think she'll

934
00:41:08,944 --> 00:41:11,304
Speaker 1: get nominated in Part two. She might get the Best

935
00:41:11,344 --> 00:41:13,504
Speaker 1: Supporting Actress. It depends who else's nomination.

936
00:41:13,504 --> 00:41:14,984
Speaker 2: Even Pete Davidson wanted her to win.

937
00:41:15,224 --> 00:41:17,664
Speaker 1: That's so true. I'll that you put that in. She

938
00:41:17,744 --> 00:41:19,384
Speaker 1: might win next year as kind of like a good

939
00:41:19,384 --> 00:41:21,144
Speaker 1: on youth for both movies kind of thing. But I

940
00:41:21,184 --> 00:41:22,824
Speaker 1: did think that if she was gonna win, this would

941
00:41:22,824 --> 00:41:25,144
Speaker 1: have been the year. That was a bit sad. And

942
00:41:25,184 --> 00:41:27,904
Speaker 1: then they announced the Best Picture winner and it was Anra.

943
00:41:28,264 --> 00:41:31,024
Speaker 1: I was so happy, but also shocked, because I know,

944
00:41:31,064 --> 00:41:33,864
Speaker 1: shocked in shocked in the best way possible, because I

945
00:41:33,904 --> 00:41:36,344
Speaker 1: know some people hate that movie and some people love it.

946
00:41:36,584 --> 00:41:38,944
Speaker 1: Who hates it? Some people hate it really yeah, and

947
00:41:38,984 --> 00:41:41,024
Speaker 1: they think it's just like very kind of like heavy handed.

948
00:41:41,064 --> 00:41:44,224
Speaker 1: It's just like a wish fulfillment thing and everything. But

949
00:41:44,304 --> 00:41:46,224
Speaker 1: I also just think that that's just such a well

950
00:41:46,264 --> 00:41:48,424
Speaker 1: made movie. So when Sean Baker was giving one of

951
00:41:48,424 --> 00:41:50,864
Speaker 1: his four acceptance speeches. I think it was actually his

952
00:41:50,984 --> 00:41:53,384
Speaker 1: editing speech that was one of the greatest speeches because

953
00:41:53,424 --> 00:41:56,184
Speaker 1: he's like, he was so happy he won for editing,

954
00:41:56,464 --> 00:41:59,144
Speaker 1: which is obviously a huge oscar to win.

955
00:41:59,304 --> 00:42:00,744
Speaker 2: He was like, I held up the whole movie.

956
00:42:00,904 --> 00:42:03,904
Speaker 1: Yeah, editing, but usually it's like Best Picture or screenplay.

957
00:42:03,944 --> 00:42:05,304
Speaker 1: But he got there and he was like, I'm so

958
00:42:05,344 --> 00:42:09,304
Speaker 1: glad I won for this because this movie was terrible

959
00:42:09,304 --> 00:42:11,824
Speaker 1: before I edited, which I can imagine because that movie

960
00:42:11,864 --> 00:42:14,304
Speaker 1: is wild. Feel how much footage they'd have in that car.

961
00:42:14,464 --> 00:42:17,504
Speaker 2: It feels like it's also like filmed on like someone's

962
00:42:17,544 --> 00:42:20,584
Speaker 2: iPhone that doesn't stop, Like it's just one big long film.

963
00:42:20,664 --> 00:42:22,904
Speaker 1: Yeah, notoriously a very quick shoot time. They shot it

964
00:42:22,944 --> 00:42:25,304
Speaker 1: over a couple of weeks and just slammed through the days,

965
00:42:25,304 --> 00:42:26,824
Speaker 1: got as much footage as they can, and then he

966
00:42:26,864 --> 00:42:29,304
Speaker 1: sat together in that room and cut it together, and

967
00:42:29,384 --> 00:42:31,704
Speaker 1: so you could kind of see him on stage being

968
00:42:31,744 --> 00:42:34,744
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I really earned this. I edited the

969
00:42:34,744 --> 00:42:36,864
Speaker 1: shitter that movie because, as he said, it was bad

970
00:42:36,904 --> 00:42:39,264
Speaker 1: before he started editing it, so I thought that was great.

971
00:42:39,304 --> 00:42:41,704
Speaker 1: But yeah, such a good win from an aura. We

972
00:42:41,744 --> 00:42:44,664
Speaker 1: could all have its turn next year, and yeah, overall

973
00:42:44,704 --> 00:42:46,024
Speaker 1: like quite a good Oscars.

974
00:42:46,584 --> 00:42:49,264
Speaker 2: Good Oscars. I'm just glad there were some big surprise

975
00:42:49,344 --> 00:42:52,184
Speaker 2: moments because I would be like, what would we talk

976
00:42:52,224 --> 00:42:52,784
Speaker 2: about today?

977
00:42:52,944 --> 00:42:55,624
Speaker 1: Well, exactly, I mean the best Actress Oscar was obviously

978
00:42:55,744 --> 00:42:58,104
Speaker 1: like the most contentious win of the night. And the

979
00:42:58,224 --> 00:43:00,264
Speaker 1: sad thing about that is like everyone's being like, oh,

980
00:43:00,264 --> 00:43:02,304
Speaker 1: there more woman in Hollywood over fifty who were getting

981
00:43:02,304 --> 00:43:05,944
Speaker 1: movie rolls, and that's very true. But statistically women are

982
00:43:06,024 --> 00:43:08,984
Speaker 1: much more likely to win an Oscar under the age

983
00:43:09,024 --> 00:43:11,784
Speaker 1: of forty and their chances like statistically men win their

984
00:43:11,824 --> 00:43:14,704
Speaker 1: Oscars over the age of forty and upwards, so like

985
00:43:14,744 --> 00:43:17,104
Speaker 1: you're more likely to get your really get into your

986
00:43:17,144 --> 00:43:21,424
Speaker 1: Oscar's stride if you're a male at late forties, fifties, sixties.

987
00:43:21,464 --> 00:43:23,224
Speaker 1: And a lot of people are saying that's why Timothy

988
00:43:23,264 --> 00:43:25,864
Speaker 1: Chalamaye didn't win, because the people voting for him are

989
00:43:25,864 --> 00:43:27,144
Speaker 1: male actors in the academy.

990
00:43:27,224 --> 00:43:31,184
Speaker 2: That's probably you know, how to dicoverer one like years later, Yeah, exactly.

991
00:43:31,224 --> 00:43:33,464
Speaker 1: They're always like it's very unlikely for a young man

992
00:43:33,504 --> 00:43:35,384
Speaker 1: to win. It's always like you've got to like prove

993
00:43:35,464 --> 00:43:38,384
Speaker 1: the industry that you're worth it, Whereas for women, it's

994
00:43:38,424 --> 00:43:40,504
Speaker 1: most likely that more of an ingenou like a younger

995
00:43:40,544 --> 00:43:43,224
Speaker 1: woman will win. It's getting better, like over the years

996
00:43:43,344 --> 00:43:46,264
Speaker 1: kind of sort of started to age up a little bit,

997
00:43:46,304 --> 00:43:48,864
Speaker 1: except for the am A Stone win. But statistically most

998
00:43:48,864 --> 00:43:51,704
Speaker 1: women win their first Oscar under fifty, and it's mostly

999
00:43:51,744 --> 00:43:53,864
Speaker 1: twenties and thirties, so I can see there's.

1000
00:43:54,584 --> 00:43:56,024
Speaker 2: We don't have that much time left.

1001
00:43:56,144 --> 00:43:58,504
Speaker 1: I know there's all that backstory for Demi Moore of

1002
00:43:58,544 --> 00:44:00,504
Speaker 1: being sixty two, which you know, I feel like she's

1003
00:44:00,504 --> 00:44:02,104
Speaker 1: getting a stride now and she could be in another

1004
00:44:02,144 --> 00:44:04,744
Speaker 1: Oscar nominated movie, but she would know the reality of

1005
00:44:04,744 --> 00:44:07,624
Speaker 1: her situation, whereas Mikey Madison's twenty five, this is her

1006
00:44:07,624 --> 00:44:10,864
Speaker 1: first lady life. She could win so many more. Apart

1007
00:44:10,904 --> 00:44:13,904
Speaker 1: from that a great Oscars. I'm a good asker, and

1008
00:44:13,944 --> 00:44:17,304
Speaker 1: hopefully every Oscars going forward will have a James Bond tribute.

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Speaker 2: If you are obsessed with Oscars like we are, we've

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Speaker 2: done a whole lot of coverage of it on Mamma Mia.

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