1 00:00:11,149 --> 00:00:15,989 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mama Maya acknowledges 2 00:00:16,029 --> 00:00:19,229 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:19,309 --> 00:00:20,069 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,389 --> 00:00:23,349 Speaker 2: I am pregnant. 5 00:00:27,189 --> 00:00:30,269 Speaker 1: Welcome to Hallo Bump. We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and 6 00:00:30,349 --> 00:00:33,549 Speaker 1: more manageable. I'm Grace Rubrey. I'm pregnant for the first 7 00:00:33,549 --> 00:00:35,869 Speaker 1: time and number two's are now every second day. 8 00:00:38,069 --> 00:00:38,949 Speaker 2: I'm Yana Pittman. 9 00:00:39,149 --> 00:00:41,429 Speaker 3: I'm a former Olympic athlete, i am a mummy to 10 00:00:41,549 --> 00:00:43,509 Speaker 3: six kids, and I'm training to be an obstitrician. 11 00:00:43,829 --> 00:00:46,069 Speaker 1: Each week, Janna and I will hold your hand week 12 00:00:46,109 --> 00:00:49,829 Speaker 1: by week through the mysterious, perplexing and sometimes blocked miracle 13 00:00:49,989 --> 00:00:52,909 Speaker 1: that is pregnancy, all the way from a poppy seed 14 00:00:52,909 --> 00:00:58,109 Speaker 1: to a pumpkin. Week sixteen sixteen, this is getting big. 15 00:00:58,149 --> 00:00:59,789 Speaker 1: What songs are we now, Well. 16 00:00:59,669 --> 00:01:01,429 Speaker 3: It's now the size of an avocado, which you probably 17 00:01:01,429 --> 00:01:03,389 Speaker 3: should be having some more of grace if your bowels 18 00:01:03,389 --> 00:01:04,069 Speaker 3: aren't working, but. 19 00:01:06,749 --> 00:01:08,269 Speaker 2: Or a small remote control. 20 00:01:08,269 --> 00:01:09,869 Speaker 1: And knock you at thirty three to ten. 21 00:01:10,269 --> 00:01:12,549 Speaker 3: Yes, Or we're now moving into some animals, a small 22 00:01:12,589 --> 00:01:13,509 Speaker 3: guinea pig, a. 23 00:01:13,429 --> 00:01:16,109 Speaker 1: Small guinea pick. So when they get all of these 24 00:01:16,149 --> 00:01:19,909 Speaker 1: shapes and sizes and fruits. Is it measuring length or 25 00:01:20,389 --> 00:01:22,349 Speaker 1: girth length? 26 00:01:22,829 --> 00:01:25,309 Speaker 3: So we start measuring crown rump length initially, and then 27 00:01:25,349 --> 00:01:28,709 Speaker 3: we move soon to the head of the head of 28 00:01:28,709 --> 00:01:30,469 Speaker 3: the top of your babies head, to their little legs, 29 00:01:30,469 --> 00:01:32,669 Speaker 3: to their toes. So there's a variation in time of 30 00:01:32,669 --> 00:01:34,469 Speaker 3: when we actually look at just their bottom and as 31 00:01:34,469 --> 00:01:36,589 Speaker 3: they start stretching out their whole thing. It's not quite yet, 32 00:01:36,629 --> 00:01:38,149 Speaker 3: but you'll see as we come along, we'll all of 33 00:01:38,149 --> 00:01:39,909 Speaker 3: a sudden jump ten centimeters. 34 00:01:39,469 --> 00:01:40,709 Speaker 2: And be like, hang on a second, the maybe didn't 35 00:01:40,709 --> 00:01:41,469 Speaker 2: grow tens and es. 36 00:01:41,589 --> 00:01:43,589 Speaker 3: No, we change the way we measure the baby, so 37 00:01:43,589 --> 00:01:45,469 Speaker 3: at the moment, it's still crown crump length. 38 00:01:45,549 --> 00:01:47,869 Speaker 1: Because sometimes Tom, I've seen ones that it's like it's 39 00:01:47,989 --> 00:01:49,709 Speaker 1: a bunch of celery and you're like, what. 40 00:01:49,829 --> 00:01:54,309 Speaker 3: How No, at the moment they're around eleven to twelve centimeters, 41 00:01:54,429 --> 00:01:55,909 Speaker 3: and we've got a weight now, so we've got abound 42 00:01:55,909 --> 00:01:58,829 Speaker 3: an eighty five to one hundred and ten grams, so. 43 00:01:59,389 --> 00:02:03,669 Speaker 1: What what ways that you don't have to have any 44 00:02:03,869 --> 00:02:04,349 Speaker 1: chocolate bar? 45 00:02:04,429 --> 00:02:04,909 Speaker 2: Think about it? 46 00:02:04,949 --> 00:02:07,669 Speaker 3: Eighty grams so sometimes one hundred grams, right, I'd love 47 00:02:07,669 --> 00:02:08,149 Speaker 3: one right now. 48 00:02:08,189 --> 00:02:12,229 Speaker 2: Though, Let's move on, right, Jool and I'm not even pregnant. 49 00:02:12,549 --> 00:02:14,949 Speaker 1: Well, what's happening to them? What are they're getting heavier? 50 00:02:15,109 --> 00:02:17,869 Speaker 3: What is that as a result of Yes, they can 51 00:02:17,909 --> 00:02:20,429 Speaker 3: now wriggle their fingers and their toes, which is quite cute. 52 00:02:20,509 --> 00:02:22,549 Speaker 3: And they're starting to have early expressions, not that we'll 53 00:02:22,549 --> 00:02:24,069 Speaker 3: be able to see them, but the facial muscles are 54 00:02:24,069 --> 00:02:26,829 Speaker 3: starting to work. The umbilical cord is mostly formed. It's 55 00:02:26,829 --> 00:02:29,069 Speaker 3: getting thicker though, and longer because it gets what's called 56 00:02:29,069 --> 00:02:31,789 Speaker 3: Woban's jelly, which is like a fatty outer layer, and 57 00:02:31,829 --> 00:02:34,589 Speaker 3: it'll supply your oxygen and your nutrition to your baby 58 00:02:34,589 --> 00:02:35,549 Speaker 3: for the rest of pregnancy. 59 00:02:36,029 --> 00:02:40,589 Speaker 1: What's happening to me and what's happening to our body? 60 00:02:40,629 --> 00:02:41,429 Speaker 2: To you? Yes? 61 00:02:41,469 --> 00:02:42,469 Speaker 1: To me, what's happening to me? 62 00:02:43,109 --> 00:02:43,309 Speaker 2: Now? 63 00:02:43,349 --> 00:02:45,549 Speaker 3: This is the time we sort of said that people 64 00:02:45,589 --> 00:02:46,509 Speaker 3: say they start feeling. 65 00:02:46,589 --> 00:02:48,709 Speaker 2: Now, if someone said it to me, I go, yeah, Okay. 66 00:02:49,109 --> 00:02:51,629 Speaker 3: Most don't feel their baby move, but some people do 67 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:54,789 Speaker 3: say that this is starting to happen. You might find 68 00:02:54,869 --> 00:02:56,429 Speaker 3: you have that increase in libido or a bit of 69 00:02:56,469 --> 00:02:58,189 Speaker 3: a dropping elevedo now, so again we'll have to talk 70 00:02:58,189 --> 00:03:01,549 Speaker 3: about that ups and downs. The leg cramps are coming in, yes, 71 00:03:01,869 --> 00:03:06,749 Speaker 3: and the Varraco's vein. Interesting, Yeah, not fun. 72 00:03:07,109 --> 00:03:10,869 Speaker 1: On all parts of you. You did mention varicose veins 73 00:03:10,909 --> 00:03:14,349 Speaker 1: in like uncomfortable areas, But are we looking just at 74 00:03:14,429 --> 00:03:16,989 Speaker 1: legs first or are they up for grabs anywhere. 75 00:03:17,029 --> 00:03:19,509 Speaker 3: It depends on your genetics predisposition. So some people have 76 00:03:19,589 --> 00:03:23,149 Speaker 3: quite thin vein walls and they can get varicose veins 77 00:03:23,149 --> 00:03:26,309 Speaker 3: all over their legs. It can be hemorrhoids. They're also 78 00:03:26,429 --> 00:03:28,349 Speaker 3: veins and that sort of pelvic congestion area. So it 79 00:03:28,349 --> 00:03:30,189 Speaker 3: comes around because you've got an increased bloo volume. We've 80 00:03:30,189 --> 00:03:33,069 Speaker 3: talked about that several times, ongoing hormonal control. So those 81 00:03:33,069 --> 00:03:35,669 Speaker 3: progesterone really relax those vessel walls. So if you've already 82 00:03:35,669 --> 00:03:38,589 Speaker 3: predisposed with thin vessels and you've got of wobbly the 83 00:03:38,669 --> 00:03:40,789 Speaker 3: valves inside the vein that usually stop the backflow from 84 00:03:40,829 --> 00:03:43,589 Speaker 3: the blood going to the heart. The increased pressure of 85 00:03:43,589 --> 00:03:45,749 Speaker 3: the uterus as it grows on what's called the iliac vessels, 86 00:03:45,749 --> 00:03:47,789 Speaker 3: So they're the big vessels around that take all the 87 00:03:47,829 --> 00:03:50,469 Speaker 3: waste products back towards the heart. If they're being squashed 88 00:03:50,509 --> 00:03:53,069 Speaker 3: by the pregnancy, the blood has to go somewhere, so 89 00:03:53,109 --> 00:03:55,829 Speaker 3: it backflows and it actually increases the diameter of those 90 00:03:55,949 --> 00:03:59,069 Speaker 3: vessels and they become tortuous and wrigley. For most women 91 00:03:59,109 --> 00:04:01,389 Speaker 3: it's legs, so they even get pain and cramps in 92 00:04:01,389 --> 00:04:02,989 Speaker 3: their legs, and you can actually see there's sort of 93 00:04:03,029 --> 00:04:05,349 Speaker 3: tortuous looking blue vessels on the skin. Now it doesn't 94 00:04:05,349 --> 00:04:07,589 Speaker 3: actually it looks. It's a small risk factor for DVT, 95 00:04:07,669 --> 00:04:09,989 Speaker 3: but it's not your main risk factor. They're deep veins, 96 00:04:10,189 --> 00:04:14,469 Speaker 3: are superficial veins. It was my main symptom in pregnancy. 97 00:04:14,549 --> 00:04:18,589 Speaker 3: So I had legit, as I said in one previous episode, 98 00:04:18,629 --> 00:04:21,269 Speaker 3: testicles in my vagina on one side, so I had 99 00:04:21,269 --> 00:04:23,749 Speaker 3: a single side and what we call a volvle variosity, 100 00:04:24,309 --> 00:04:26,389 Speaker 3: and not a single person had ever spoken about it. 101 00:04:26,389 --> 00:04:27,949 Speaker 3: I felt like I was the only person on the 102 00:04:28,109 --> 00:04:31,909 Speaker 3: entire planet that experienced this until now. I've seen lots 103 00:04:31,909 --> 00:04:34,149 Speaker 3: of vaginas, and I've seen lots of women who have them, 104 00:04:34,789 --> 00:04:36,349 Speaker 3: but nobody talks about it, Which is why I was 105 00:04:36,389 --> 00:04:38,269 Speaker 3: really keen and hopeful that you might let me discuss it, 106 00:04:38,309 --> 00:04:41,149 Speaker 3: because if you are experiencing this, you are absolutely not alone. 107 00:04:41,189 --> 00:04:43,269 Speaker 3: It's really common, and I want to reassure you that 108 00:04:43,309 --> 00:04:44,069 Speaker 3: after pregnancy it. 109 00:04:44,069 --> 00:04:44,949 Speaker 2: Almost goes away. 110 00:04:45,069 --> 00:04:47,949 Speaker 1: Will you see them, You're like, oh, yes, okay, okay, 111 00:04:48,109 --> 00:04:49,829 Speaker 1: so you know if you have them. 112 00:04:49,829 --> 00:04:51,189 Speaker 3: Well, I mean you could have small ones you may 113 00:04:51,189 --> 00:04:52,789 Speaker 3: not notice, but that cares. If you have small ones 114 00:04:52,829 --> 00:04:54,509 Speaker 3: you don't notice, then you don't need to know about it. 115 00:04:54,669 --> 00:04:56,189 Speaker 3: I woke up in the middle of the night one time, 116 00:04:56,269 --> 00:04:58,869 Speaker 3: felt this real release of pressure down the left right 117 00:04:58,909 --> 00:05:01,629 Speaker 3: side of my leg and woke up with these terrible veins, 118 00:05:01,669 --> 00:05:04,029 Speaker 3: like really really bad leg veins. And then the volvile 119 00:05:04,069 --> 00:05:06,589 Speaker 3: ones came, and unfortunately each pregnancy, they got worse and 120 00:05:06,629 --> 00:05:07,269 Speaker 3: worse and worse. 121 00:05:08,189 --> 00:05:08,829 Speaker 1: Is this normal? 122 00:05:08,909 --> 00:05:09,589 Speaker 2: Is normal? 123 00:05:10,189 --> 00:05:12,389 Speaker 1: It could be completely unrelated, or it could be I'm 124 00:05:12,389 --> 00:05:14,709 Speaker 1: not quite sure, but I around this time, I did 125 00:05:14,749 --> 00:05:17,509 Speaker 1: go to an optometrist just because it was time to 126 00:05:17,549 --> 00:05:19,789 Speaker 1: get it check up, and there was a burst blood 127 00:05:19,869 --> 00:05:22,789 Speaker 1: vessel in my eye, like not visually that you could see, 128 00:05:22,829 --> 00:05:24,949 Speaker 1: but somewhere at the back. And she did say that 129 00:05:25,069 --> 00:05:27,109 Speaker 1: could be as a result of pregnancy, or it could 130 00:05:27,149 --> 00:05:29,789 Speaker 1: be a sign of gestational diabetes asolutely I had had 131 00:05:29,829 --> 00:05:33,109 Speaker 1: my I had had my gestational diabetes test the following 132 00:05:33,109 --> 00:05:35,589 Speaker 1: week and I didn't have it. And then she said, 133 00:05:35,629 --> 00:05:37,509 Speaker 1: or it could be the force of vomiting that you. 134 00:05:37,789 --> 00:05:41,629 Speaker 2: All three okay, very well, she's very good. I like it, okay, and. 135 00:05:41,629 --> 00:05:43,789 Speaker 1: She did read me for three months. Time to go. 136 00:05:43,869 --> 00:05:45,629 Speaker 1: Let's just double check that it's fine. 137 00:05:45,709 --> 00:05:46,909 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's is if you do have 138 00:05:46,949 --> 00:05:50,229 Speaker 3: pre existing diabetes, pregnancy makes everything worse. So we actually 139 00:05:50,309 --> 00:05:52,309 Speaker 3: check women who have type one diabetes. For example, we 140 00:05:52,349 --> 00:05:54,629 Speaker 3: actually prefer them to have really planned their pregnancy and 141 00:05:54,669 --> 00:05:56,589 Speaker 3: really had good type sugar control because we know that 142 00:05:56,589 --> 00:05:59,349 Speaker 3: the kidneys and the eyes can be quite significantly damaged. 143 00:05:59,349 --> 00:06:00,429 Speaker 3: So we actually have that they have to have that 144 00:06:00,509 --> 00:06:02,989 Speaker 3: check twice in pregnancy because of that exact thing. But 145 00:06:03,069 --> 00:06:05,349 Speaker 3: your constant romity, grace, think about the pressures and you're 146 00:06:05,389 --> 00:06:06,549 Speaker 3: leaning over in a toilet bowl. 147 00:06:06,629 --> 00:06:07,949 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to happen. 148 00:06:07,989 --> 00:06:09,989 Speaker 3: It'll also happen potentially when you push your baby out. 149 00:06:10,149 --> 00:06:11,669 Speaker 3: Burst all the blood mistles in my eyes when I've 150 00:06:11,669 --> 00:06:14,309 Speaker 3: got pushed the baby out, so as your. 151 00:06:14,189 --> 00:06:17,869 Speaker 1: Eyes or sneezing, because I've definitely noticed enough tick and 152 00:06:17,949 --> 00:06:20,429 Speaker 1: sneezing as well, can that burst them? Well? 153 00:06:20,469 --> 00:06:21,589 Speaker 2: Again, I can't think that comes about. 154 00:06:21,589 --> 00:06:23,669 Speaker 3: Because you've got more and more blood flow to your 155 00:06:23,709 --> 00:06:26,789 Speaker 3: nose and to everything. It's gonna leak and you're you're 156 00:06:26,829 --> 00:06:29,429 Speaker 3: gonna have more congestion. You have nasal congestions really common 157 00:06:29,429 --> 00:06:33,349 Speaker 3: in pregnancy. Again, increased blood flow, so anything that you're 158 00:06:33,349 --> 00:06:34,589 Speaker 3: concerned about, I think it is just better to get 159 00:06:34,589 --> 00:06:36,149 Speaker 3: your GP to get it checked. But eye health is 160 00:06:36,189 --> 00:06:38,429 Speaker 3: something that often gets not talked about in pregnancy and 161 00:06:38,749 --> 00:06:40,509 Speaker 3: is really really important to make sure that you're not 162 00:06:41,189 --> 00:06:42,189 Speaker 3: in your eyes for life. 163 00:06:42,509 --> 00:06:43,669 Speaker 2: So it's something to look after. 164 00:06:45,109 --> 00:06:47,069 Speaker 1: So we have talked a lot of is this normal? 165 00:06:47,069 --> 00:06:49,709 Speaker 1: But I've just got one more to add, which is constipation, 166 00:06:50,349 --> 00:06:55,349 Speaker 1: which it hasn't gotten better from the start, So what 167 00:06:55,389 --> 00:06:58,029 Speaker 1: can we do? One is this normal? To what can 168 00:06:58,029 --> 00:06:58,229 Speaker 1: we do? 169 00:06:58,909 --> 00:07:01,789 Speaker 3: Sadly, in pregnancy, you have slowed transition of your bow, 170 00:07:02,029 --> 00:07:03,949 Speaker 3: so you'd hope that well some people get don't get 171 00:07:03,989 --> 00:07:05,269 Speaker 3: me get the runs as well, so it's not every 172 00:07:05,269 --> 00:07:08,149 Speaker 3: woman yet again highlights how different pregnancy is. So that 173 00:07:08,189 --> 00:07:11,229 Speaker 3: at least fifteen times so far. But we often have 174 00:07:11,269 --> 00:07:13,989 Speaker 3: a slowed bow transition, so the food you're taking takes 175 00:07:14,149 --> 00:07:16,869 Speaker 3: longer to absorb and go slower through your body. To 176 00:07:16,909 --> 00:07:19,109 Speaker 3: make sure that you're optimizing the amount of nutrients you 177 00:07:19,109 --> 00:07:23,309 Speaker 3: can remove from that food, we often vomit less, so 178 00:07:23,349 --> 00:07:26,269 Speaker 3: you're more dehydrated, you are circulating more volume, so you 179 00:07:26,229 --> 00:07:28,229 Speaker 3: got to try and keep that volume up. And women 180 00:07:28,269 --> 00:07:31,909 Speaker 3: are just really chronically problematic with constipation. So it's probably, 181 00:07:32,109 --> 00:07:33,829 Speaker 3: i'd say it is probably the most common symptom of 182 00:07:33,869 --> 00:07:35,509 Speaker 3: the second and third semester is women say, oh, it 183 00:07:35,629 --> 00:07:38,509 Speaker 3: cannot open my bows throwing. We often say, hey, Grace, 184 00:07:38,549 --> 00:07:40,869 Speaker 3: why don't you start taking an iron supplement that's going 185 00:07:40,949 --> 00:07:44,669 Speaker 3: to help you constipated? Hey have some on densitron for 186 00:07:44,709 --> 00:07:48,429 Speaker 3: your nausea constipated. So the combination of all those things 187 00:07:48,549 --> 00:07:51,869 Speaker 3: means women are struggling and then, unfortunately, let's go one 188 00:07:51,869 --> 00:07:54,269 Speaker 3: step further. You then get hemorrhoids, which hurts when you're 189 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:56,669 Speaker 3: past stool, or you get an anal fisher, sorry, lady's 190 00:07:56,669 --> 00:07:58,669 Speaker 3: taking it really low below the table today, which is 191 00:07:58,669 --> 00:08:00,669 Speaker 3: basically a little cut in the anal verge of of 192 00:08:00,669 --> 00:08:03,509 Speaker 3: your bottom, and it hurts like stink to pass the stool, 193 00:08:03,549 --> 00:08:05,589 Speaker 3: so we get scared of passing, and so that you 194 00:08:05,629 --> 00:08:07,309 Speaker 3: don't and it goes two or three days. It's a 195 00:08:07,389 --> 00:08:08,949 Speaker 3: much bigger stool when it does come out, and it 196 00:08:08,989 --> 00:08:10,709 Speaker 3: hurts even more. So you have that sort of reflex 197 00:08:10,789 --> 00:08:12,989 Speaker 3: like a little toddler no, not want it to open 198 00:08:13,069 --> 00:08:15,749 Speaker 3: your bouth. So key to that hydration and can I 199 00:08:15,789 --> 00:08:17,589 Speaker 3: overcoal and colock so if you need. 200 00:08:17,429 --> 00:08:19,709 Speaker 1: It that a'll just sounds so terrible. 201 00:08:20,069 --> 00:08:21,989 Speaker 2: I'm sorry you didn't want me to be honest. 202 00:08:22,269 --> 00:08:24,589 Speaker 1: No, it's good. It's good. It is, and I hope 203 00:08:24,589 --> 00:08:27,669 Speaker 1: people just feel not alone if exactly they've gone down 204 00:08:27,709 --> 00:08:31,549 Speaker 1: one path to help another which has shut down something else. Yeah, 205 00:08:31,709 --> 00:08:33,709 Speaker 1: what is it like one step forward to two steps 206 00:08:33,709 --> 00:08:34,429 Speaker 1: back exactly? 207 00:08:34,429 --> 00:08:35,109 Speaker 2: And keep moving. 208 00:08:35,149 --> 00:08:37,109 Speaker 3: Actually, one of the things is you need to keep exercising. 209 00:08:37,149 --> 00:08:38,989 Speaker 3: So that sort of walking and things can certainly help 210 00:08:39,029 --> 00:08:40,189 Speaker 3: those bowers keep moving as well. 211 00:08:40,229 --> 00:08:43,469 Speaker 1: I will say when I do my big make eight 212 00:08:43,509 --> 00:08:46,589 Speaker 1: k walks in the morning, it does helps. It does help. 213 00:08:46,669 --> 00:08:50,309 Speaker 3: Yeah, And a coffee sometimes ironically it's another old wives table, 214 00:08:50,309 --> 00:08:51,109 Speaker 3: but it can sometimes help. 215 00:08:51,149 --> 00:08:51,949 Speaker 2: I was not too much. 216 00:08:51,989 --> 00:08:54,389 Speaker 1: But and what are some important things to check off 217 00:08:54,429 --> 00:08:55,549 Speaker 1: on our list this week? 218 00:08:55,869 --> 00:08:58,069 Speaker 3: Okay, so now we're getting closer to starting to book 219 00:08:58,069 --> 00:08:58,749 Speaker 3: that morphology. 220 00:08:58,869 --> 00:09:00,989 Speaker 2: It takes about an hour the morphology. It's long, and. 221 00:09:00,949 --> 00:09:03,469 Speaker 3: It's the really in depth review of the structures of 222 00:09:03,469 --> 00:09:06,549 Speaker 3: your baby. And so it can for example, at our 223 00:09:06,549 --> 00:09:08,229 Speaker 3: hospital where I work out, it can be three weeks 224 00:09:08,309 --> 00:09:08,749 Speaker 3: wait to. 225 00:09:08,749 --> 00:09:10,949 Speaker 2: Get into that appointment because our guys are so. 226 00:09:10,989 --> 00:09:13,549 Speaker 1: Great because you've only got that window to do it in. 227 00:09:13,629 --> 00:09:14,149 Speaker 1: Do you need to. 228 00:09:14,069 --> 00:09:15,189 Speaker 2: Book booking events? 229 00:09:15,229 --> 00:09:17,509 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, so I think that's probably my biggest one, 230 00:09:17,509 --> 00:09:20,469 Speaker 3: to make sure you've had that booked. And a discussion 231 00:09:20,509 --> 00:09:24,629 Speaker 3: around bleeding. Again, any bleeding in pregnancy, particularly at this gestation, 232 00:09:24,789 --> 00:09:27,109 Speaker 3: needs to be followed up because that placenta is starting 233 00:09:27,109 --> 00:09:30,149 Speaker 3: to grow and not all placentas are in the right spot. Now. 234 00:09:30,149 --> 00:09:32,149 Speaker 3: I have a bigger chat about that later, but if 235 00:09:32,149 --> 00:09:35,149 Speaker 3: you're having bleeding, it's really important now where at a 236 00:09:35,189 --> 00:09:37,509 Speaker 3: point where we want to get this pregnancy to a 237 00:09:37,669 --> 00:09:40,269 Speaker 3: viable gestation where you contact your birth team and just 238 00:09:40,349 --> 00:09:40,709 Speaker 3: let them know. 239 00:09:40,949 --> 00:09:43,229 Speaker 1: We've talked about the ultrasound places being really good. Are 240 00:09:43,229 --> 00:09:45,709 Speaker 1: the women's specific ones in every state. 241 00:09:45,949 --> 00:09:47,989 Speaker 3: Lots of them, So there are often women's centered places, 242 00:09:47,989 --> 00:09:49,389 Speaker 3: and it doesn't mean the others aren't great. You might 243 00:09:49,429 --> 00:09:51,709 Speaker 3: have an amazing sonographer at one of the other places, 244 00:09:52,269 --> 00:09:54,349 Speaker 3: but it's just more that if they concentrate on women's 245 00:09:54,349 --> 00:09:56,829 Speaker 3: imaging all the time, that's what they do all the time. 246 00:09:57,029 --> 00:09:58,749 Speaker 3: If you came to our hospital and there was an 247 00:09:58,789 --> 00:10:09,069 Speaker 3: abnormality on it. We would probably get it redone, but. 248 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:11,589 Speaker 1: My took it this week. Helpful to everyone. But it's 249 00:10:11,629 --> 00:10:15,269 Speaker 1: a travel tip. I had an overseas flight early on 250 00:10:15,309 --> 00:10:17,789 Speaker 1: in my second trimester around this week, and I was 251 00:10:17,869 --> 00:10:21,749 Speaker 1: quite anxious about flying on a plane because of blood volume, 252 00:10:21,949 --> 00:10:25,549 Speaker 1: and because I was feeling sick, and because of a 253 00:10:25,589 --> 00:10:28,629 Speaker 1: whole bunch of things. So I did get the compression 254 00:10:28,709 --> 00:10:31,869 Speaker 1: bands great, well, compression socks, and I also got travel 255 00:10:31,909 --> 00:10:36,349 Speaker 1: sickness mean okay, fair, And then I also packed snacks 256 00:10:36,389 --> 00:10:38,349 Speaker 1: in my carry on and things that I knew just 257 00:10:38,389 --> 00:10:41,429 Speaker 1: in case if the meal wasn't coming to me, that 258 00:10:41,829 --> 00:10:44,269 Speaker 1: if it didn't vibe with what I needed, that I 259 00:10:44,349 --> 00:10:47,029 Speaker 1: had some of those safe snacks like twisties or like 260 00:10:47,069 --> 00:10:50,109 Speaker 1: some crackers and cheese and things like that. So if 261 00:10:50,149 --> 00:10:52,829 Speaker 1: you are stressed, especially of going to another country, there 262 00:10:52,869 --> 00:10:54,669 Speaker 1: are some things that that's what you can do. But 263 00:10:55,029 --> 00:10:57,389 Speaker 1: I do want to ask about the compression socks. Because 264 00:10:57,389 --> 00:10:59,709 Speaker 1: we do have so much more blood. Are we more 265 00:10:59,709 --> 00:11:01,469 Speaker 1: worried about blood clots? 266 00:11:01,549 --> 00:11:02,029 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 267 00:11:02,109 --> 00:11:05,309 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, DVTs are much more common in pregnancy. Well, I mean, 268 00:11:05,309 --> 00:11:06,949 Speaker 3: I you think about it when you got asked if 269 00:11:06,989 --> 00:11:08,909 Speaker 3: you're going on the pill, for example, we know hormones 270 00:11:08,909 --> 00:11:11,629 Speaker 3: can play a role in that. So pregnancy is one 271 00:11:11,669 --> 00:11:13,749 Speaker 3: of the big times in life where you are at 272 00:11:13,909 --> 00:11:16,869 Speaker 3: risk of a DVT. So traveling overseas is always better 273 00:11:16,909 --> 00:11:18,789 Speaker 3: to just keep aware of it. Long haul flights move 274 00:11:18,789 --> 00:11:22,549 Speaker 3: around on the flight, yes, where your support stockings. Media 275 00:11:22,549 --> 00:11:24,829 Speaker 3: Australia make some really good ones or SRC and even 276 00:11:24,869 --> 00:11:26,709 Speaker 3: belly Band makes some good ones. So there's a couple 277 00:11:26,709 --> 00:11:29,229 Speaker 3: of good companies out there that support pregnants are specific 278 00:11:29,269 --> 00:11:32,269 Speaker 3: for pregnancy, not just whack on some stockings. But obviously 279 00:11:32,269 --> 00:11:33,589 Speaker 3: if that's what you can afford, that's what you do. 280 00:11:34,029 --> 00:11:34,269 Speaker 2: I want. 281 00:11:34,269 --> 00:11:37,109 Speaker 3: I also touch that VOLV variicosities, which we talked about already. 282 00:11:37,269 --> 00:11:38,709 Speaker 3: There's a lot of things like what's called a V 283 00:11:38,749 --> 00:11:41,229 Speaker 3: two supporter compression therapy. So there are things out there 284 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:43,069 Speaker 3: you can I mean I said against V two supporters. 285 00:11:43,109 --> 00:11:44,749 Speaker 3: They make a huge difference to allow them. You can 286 00:11:44,749 --> 00:11:46,029 Speaker 3: wear them on the plane, you can wear them every 287 00:11:46,069 --> 00:11:47,989 Speaker 3: day from work, when you get out of bed. Some 288 00:11:48,069 --> 00:11:50,189 Speaker 3: women may even need to wear these compression stockings that 289 00:11:50,229 --> 00:11:51,989 Speaker 3: you only did it for the plane almost every day 290 00:11:52,029 --> 00:11:52,669 Speaker 3: for that support. 291 00:11:53,029 --> 00:11:53,949 Speaker 2: But it's very important. 292 00:11:53,989 --> 00:11:56,189 Speaker 1: I didn't have that many medications. I just had vitamins. 293 00:11:56,229 --> 00:11:59,069 Speaker 1: But are their problems with traveling with medications that are 294 00:11:59,189 --> 00:12:00,589 Speaker 1: vital for you and your pregnancy. 295 00:12:00,869 --> 00:12:02,389 Speaker 3: Well, you just never know how long you're going to 296 00:12:02,389 --> 00:12:03,909 Speaker 3: be going for something that might happen. So I think 297 00:12:03,909 --> 00:12:06,149 Speaker 3: it's always good to take your you know, whatever medications 298 00:12:06,149 --> 00:12:08,549 Speaker 3: and multivitamins and things you're on for pregnancy away with 299 00:12:08,589 --> 00:12:10,309 Speaker 3: you and keep them in your hand luggage, and keep 300 00:12:10,309 --> 00:12:12,149 Speaker 3: your favorite company of pajamas in your hand luggage because 301 00:12:12,149 --> 00:12:13,549 Speaker 3: you know, we always look at it lose our baggage 302 00:12:13,549 --> 00:12:13,949 Speaker 3: as well. 303 00:12:14,229 --> 00:12:16,749 Speaker 1: I do actually have one more question, when do you 304 00:12:16,789 --> 00:12:18,469 Speaker 1: need the letter to be able to fly? 305 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:19,029 Speaker 3: Like? 306 00:12:19,069 --> 00:12:20,749 Speaker 1: When is it no longer safe? Because I was looking 307 00:12:20,829 --> 00:12:24,029 Speaker 1: up things and like I was one shop assistant who 308 00:12:24,069 --> 00:12:25,989 Speaker 1: obviously was this shop assistant and knew nothing was like 309 00:12:26,029 --> 00:12:27,589 Speaker 1: are you allowed to fly? And then it just like 310 00:12:27,749 --> 00:12:30,429 Speaker 1: flew out of your head. Yes, So when should you 311 00:12:30,429 --> 00:12:31,029 Speaker 1: stop flying? 312 00:12:31,429 --> 00:12:33,989 Speaker 3: That is a really difficult question to ask, because I 313 00:12:34,029 --> 00:12:36,829 Speaker 3: mean the situation will be very dependent on whether you've 314 00:12:36,829 --> 00:12:38,789 Speaker 3: got a higher risk or a low risk pregnancy. So firstly, 315 00:12:39,109 --> 00:12:41,549 Speaker 3: do you feel safe to fly or not? You know, 316 00:12:41,629 --> 00:12:44,469 Speaker 3: I think the airlines also have their fairly specific rules, 317 00:12:44,509 --> 00:12:46,309 Speaker 3: some say thirty two weeks, some say thirty four weeks. 318 00:12:46,349 --> 00:12:47,709 Speaker 3: I saw a lad in the day flying at thirty 319 00:12:47,709 --> 00:12:49,469 Speaker 3: six weeks. Don't think I would have done that personally, 320 00:12:49,509 --> 00:12:51,509 Speaker 3: because going into labor on the plane is not something. 321 00:12:51,669 --> 00:12:54,069 Speaker 1: Is that the right if you go into labor? 322 00:12:54,229 --> 00:12:57,189 Speaker 2: Mainly because what's going to happen if you have a baby. 323 00:12:56,909 --> 00:12:59,349 Speaker 1: On a plane? Hello? Is there a doctor on the plane. 324 00:12:59,949 --> 00:13:02,869 Speaker 3: So it's the safety, you know, if something We don't 325 00:13:02,909 --> 00:13:04,909 Speaker 3: want to go into this right now. But labor can 326 00:13:04,989 --> 00:13:07,349 Speaker 3: be dangerous, Okay, there's no way of getting around. These 327 00:13:07,349 --> 00:13:09,749 Speaker 3: babies one hundred two hundred years ago didn't make it 328 00:13:09,749 --> 00:13:12,469 Speaker 3: through like so it's ideal if you've got a low 329 00:13:12,509 --> 00:13:14,349 Speaker 3: respregnancy you can have a wonderful home birth. I'm a 330 00:13:14,349 --> 00:13:17,389 Speaker 3: big home birthing advocate, but you want to have access 331 00:13:17,429 --> 00:13:19,989 Speaker 3: to maternity services if something goes wrong. 332 00:13:20,869 --> 00:13:22,549 Speaker 2: Not really easy to do an. 333 00:13:22,269 --> 00:13:25,349 Speaker 3: International long haul flight over the over Japan. So I 334 00:13:25,349 --> 00:13:27,549 Speaker 3: think it's more a if your waters break your high 335 00:13:27,549 --> 00:13:28,269 Speaker 3: you know you've got a member. 336 00:13:28,269 --> 00:13:29,149 Speaker 2: It's all inside fluid. 337 00:13:29,189 --> 00:13:31,869 Speaker 3: You flying it autitude with its increased pressures and changes 338 00:13:32,589 --> 00:13:34,629 Speaker 3: that just flying later in gestation. 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