1 00:00:08,193 --> 00:00:10,914 Speaker 1: You're listening to I'm on a Mere podcast. 2 00:00:16,114 --> 00:00:17,474 Speaker 2: Happy New Year out louders. 3 00:00:17,674 --> 00:00:21,393 Speaker 3: Welcome to a very special tradition that we always do 4 00:00:21,514 --> 00:00:23,954 Speaker 3: on the first day of the year. Even more special 5 00:00:23,994 --> 00:00:27,474 Speaker 3: this year because we've joined by somebody who isn't always 6 00:00:27,474 --> 00:00:28,194 Speaker 3: with us anymore. 7 00:00:28,234 --> 00:00:30,234 Speaker 1: It's Santa. 8 00:00:29,434 --> 00:00:32,193 Speaker 2: Happy New Year to you. 9 00:00:32,354 --> 00:00:35,233 Speaker 1: Me Friedman, Happy New Year, friends. I've forgotten how to 10 00:00:35,274 --> 00:00:37,153 Speaker 1: do this. I's forgotten how to jewel it. 11 00:00:38,434 --> 00:00:39,114 Speaker 2: Can you even? 12 00:00:39,714 --> 00:00:42,513 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, too many? 13 00:00:43,513 --> 00:00:45,553 Speaker 3: I'm Holly Wayne right. In case you're wondering, In case 14 00:00:45,593 --> 00:00:47,793 Speaker 3: you just decided woke up on the first of January 15 00:00:47,873 --> 00:00:49,913 Speaker 3: when I'm going to go and listen to MoMA be 16 00:00:49,954 --> 00:00:51,873 Speaker 3: a rout Laud's Word of the Year episode, Who are 17 00:00:51,913 --> 00:00:52,473 Speaker 3: those bitches? 18 00:00:52,513 --> 00:00:54,713 Speaker 4: I'm Holly Wayne Right, I'm Jesse Stevens. 19 00:00:54,714 --> 00:00:55,633 Speaker 1: I'm me a Friedman. 20 00:00:55,994 --> 00:00:58,073 Speaker 3: And this is what we do on the first day 21 00:00:58,074 --> 00:01:01,594 Speaker 3: of the year. Every year, we pick a word that's. 22 00:01:01,434 --> 00:01:02,554 Speaker 2: Going to define our year. 23 00:01:03,194 --> 00:01:06,554 Speaker 3: We fail, we do, we go back to the one 24 00:01:06,554 --> 00:01:09,314 Speaker 3: we had last year, and we discuss why we failed 25 00:01:09,354 --> 00:01:12,874 Speaker 3: at it. Sometimes people forget what their words are, sometimes 26 00:01:12,914 --> 00:01:14,354 Speaker 3: they change them. 27 00:01:14,354 --> 00:01:16,274 Speaker 2: Why should we start, friends. 28 00:01:16,034 --> 00:01:20,034 Speaker 4: I think we need to begin with what our word 29 00:01:20,234 --> 00:01:22,514 Speaker 4: was last year and give ourselves a bit of a 30 00:01:22,554 --> 00:01:25,474 Speaker 4: report card on how we feel we went. I want 31 00:01:25,474 --> 00:01:28,594 Speaker 4: to start with Hollies, because maybe Holly failed more than 32 00:01:28,634 --> 00:01:30,634 Speaker 4: we did, and that makes me feel happy. 33 00:01:30,994 --> 00:01:32,234 Speaker 2: All right, let's start with that. 34 00:01:32,394 --> 00:01:36,154 Speaker 3: Here's a little grab of me and my word of 35 00:01:36,194 --> 00:01:38,474 Speaker 3: the year from this time last year. 36 00:01:41,794 --> 00:01:42,394 Speaker 4: Surprise me. 37 00:01:42,674 --> 00:01:46,514 Speaker 3: Word of the year this year, I've decided is. 38 00:01:48,594 --> 00:01:51,274 Speaker 2: As in, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that 39 00:01:51,354 --> 00:01:54,954 Speaker 2: either a word enough because. 40 00:01:54,754 --> 00:01:57,594 Speaker 3: So no feels too hot, you know what I'm like, No, 41 00:01:57,874 --> 00:02:01,274 Speaker 3: it is too much, But nup is like what I 42 00:02:01,314 --> 00:02:04,154 Speaker 3: want to do this year. It's like not to all 43 00:02:04,154 --> 00:02:07,274 Speaker 3: the bullshit expectations on my word of the year, not 44 00:02:07,354 --> 00:02:10,633 Speaker 3: to ever committing to things, not up to like all 45 00:02:10,714 --> 00:02:12,554 Speaker 3: the I mean, you know whether or not I will 46 00:02:12,554 --> 00:02:14,674 Speaker 3: actually do this, not to all the kind of pressure 47 00:02:14,674 --> 00:02:16,353 Speaker 3: to be a certain way, do all that stuff, just 48 00:02:16,714 --> 00:02:19,874 Speaker 3: up and up to everything except what really matters, which 49 00:02:19,914 --> 00:02:23,874 Speaker 3: is the stuff that nourishes my people, my community. 50 00:02:23,954 --> 00:02:28,274 Speaker 1: I actually think that that is top of the leaderboard 51 00:02:28,394 --> 00:02:31,314 Speaker 1: of words of the year. I just think that was 52 00:02:31,314 --> 00:02:33,234 Speaker 1: an outstanding Okay, I was. 53 00:02:33,354 --> 00:02:35,154 Speaker 2: Very smug, wasn't I You're smug? 54 00:02:35,154 --> 00:02:37,074 Speaker 4: But I want before Holly gets the right of reply. 55 00:02:37,114 --> 00:02:39,194 Speaker 4: I would like to tell everyone a story about Hollywaon 56 00:02:39,274 --> 00:02:42,914 Speaker 4: right this year. Okay, So Holly comes to Sydney on 57 00:02:42,954 --> 00:02:46,034 Speaker 4: a Monday morning at three am from the country, from 58 00:02:46,074 --> 00:02:49,274 Speaker 4: the country. She wakes up before the sunsets and she 59 00:02:49,314 --> 00:02:52,154 Speaker 4: gets to Sydney and she does long days and she 60 00:02:52,194 --> 00:02:55,634 Speaker 4: stays in Sydney, and then on Wednesday afternoons she sometimes 61 00:02:55,714 --> 00:02:58,234 Speaker 4: goes back to the country to work all her other 62 00:02:58,314 --> 00:02:58,754 Speaker 4: jobs and. 63 00:02:58,714 --> 00:02:59,434 Speaker 1: Da da da. 64 00:02:59,474 --> 00:03:03,314 Speaker 4: Anyway, this particular week, Holly comes from the country, she 65 00:03:03,314 --> 00:03:05,994 Speaker 4: comes here, she has a book event on a Monday night, 66 00:03:06,314 --> 00:03:09,874 Speaker 4: she's interviewing someone really important. On a Wednesday night, she 67 00:03:10,594 --> 00:03:13,594 Speaker 4: maybe there was a Trent Dalton. Maybe it's probably there 68 00:03:13,634 --> 00:03:16,633 Speaker 4: were just all of these really big deal events that Holly. 69 00:03:16,794 --> 00:03:18,793 Speaker 4: I think she'd like eight events in a week, right, 70 00:03:19,154 --> 00:03:21,274 Speaker 4: She just never went back to the country. And then 71 00:03:21,314 --> 00:03:25,594 Speaker 4: on Friday afternoon she flew to Perth for a festival. 72 00:03:26,514 --> 00:03:30,913 Speaker 4: She stayed there that weekend that Sunday. Yeah, no, no, no, wait, 73 00:03:31,434 --> 00:03:33,514 Speaker 4: I think it was early the Monday she did the 74 00:03:33,554 --> 00:03:39,074 Speaker 4: red Eye from Perth. Come just in time to record 75 00:03:39,114 --> 00:03:40,754 Speaker 4: out Loud on a Monday, and I went. 76 00:03:40,674 --> 00:03:42,594 Speaker 1: To Mondays so she could work on both of them, 77 00:03:42,754 --> 00:03:44,794 Speaker 1: one on the West coast, one on the East coast. 78 00:03:45,314 --> 00:03:46,074 Speaker 5: How did not go? 79 00:03:46,434 --> 00:03:50,234 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just make a noise like that. 80 00:03:53,314 --> 00:03:55,674 Speaker 2: I don't think I nailed up. It's been a big year. 81 00:03:55,954 --> 00:03:58,474 Speaker 2: It's been a really big year. Right, it's been a 82 00:03:58,514 --> 00:04:01,954 Speaker 2: big year. Maybe you wanted to do I did. 83 00:04:02,674 --> 00:04:05,634 Speaker 3: I did really enjoy my work this year. I had 84 00:04:05,674 --> 00:04:08,594 Speaker 3: a great time. I had a book out that was fun. 85 00:04:08,874 --> 00:04:11,474 Speaker 3: The tour was really fun. And moment we were outloud 86 00:04:11,474 --> 00:04:15,194 Speaker 3: toward those two things happened at the same time. It 87 00:04:15,234 --> 00:04:18,034 Speaker 3: has been fun out loud. We've had been through a lot, 88 00:04:18,234 --> 00:04:20,874 Speaker 3: losing our mia from most of the shows, but that's all, 89 00:04:20,954 --> 00:04:22,993 Speaker 3: you know, settled out. It's been all right. I have 90 00:04:23,113 --> 00:04:24,874 Speaker 3: done some big events with some big people, which has 91 00:04:24,873 --> 00:04:25,353 Speaker 3: been fun. 92 00:04:25,513 --> 00:04:29,354 Speaker 4: Did you say nup to anything to a single thing? 93 00:04:32,034 --> 00:04:32,513 Speaker 2: I didn't. 94 00:04:33,034 --> 00:04:34,193 Speaker 4: I don't recall you. 95 00:04:34,794 --> 00:04:37,154 Speaker 3: And then I had a brief period in the middle 96 00:04:37,154 --> 00:04:39,234 Speaker 3: of the year when I got really sick, and. 97 00:04:39,154 --> 00:04:41,313 Speaker 2: Then I bounced back and got back into it. 98 00:04:41,393 --> 00:04:43,354 Speaker 1: You tried to work through your sickness. You didn't even 99 00:04:43,393 --> 00:04:43,833 Speaker 1: say nap. 100 00:04:43,873 --> 00:04:46,113 Speaker 4: Then there was something Holly didn't want to do, and 101 00:04:46,154 --> 00:04:48,553 Speaker 4: she grumbled about it to me for about fifteen minutes 102 00:04:48,594 --> 00:04:49,474 Speaker 4: and she just went and did it. 103 00:04:49,794 --> 00:04:53,953 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they say up to anything. 104 00:04:53,594 --> 00:04:56,273 Speaker 3: I'm pretty I didn't really nail them up, I have 105 00:04:56,433 --> 00:04:58,433 Speaker 3: to say. And people kept saying to me because it 106 00:04:58,513 --> 00:05:00,914 Speaker 3: was a good word, mea, you're right, And a lot 107 00:05:00,914 --> 00:05:02,634 Speaker 3: of people would come up to me and say the 108 00:05:02,714 --> 00:05:06,113 Speaker 3: Year of nap like excitedly, and I'd go, yeah, no, 109 00:05:06,193 --> 00:05:08,194 Speaker 3: I did didn't really nail it. 110 00:05:08,234 --> 00:05:10,514 Speaker 2: I didn't really nail it. But what about you? 111 00:05:11,113 --> 00:05:13,553 Speaker 4: Okay, I can semi remember what my word is. But 112 00:05:13,594 --> 00:05:15,393 Speaker 4: what I want to listen back to is why I 113 00:05:15,873 --> 00:05:22,674 Speaker 4: chose it creativity. And the reason I have that is 114 00:05:22,714 --> 00:05:27,474 Speaker 4: because I'm feeling a bit itchy ye this year. I 115 00:05:27,513 --> 00:05:30,514 Speaker 4: feel like I've planted a few seeds creatively, like I've 116 00:05:30,553 --> 00:05:33,713 Speaker 4: started a few projects that I'm excited by and I 117 00:05:33,753 --> 00:05:36,274 Speaker 4: want to lean into them. And watching Holly last year 118 00:05:36,313 --> 00:05:40,794 Speaker 4: finish a book and Claire finish a book, I've started. 119 00:05:40,433 --> 00:05:43,193 Speaker 3: To put you off ever writing another book ever again, 120 00:05:43,234 --> 00:05:44,913 Speaker 3: by all the mental breakdowns. 121 00:05:45,393 --> 00:05:48,193 Speaker 4: This envy of just where you get to when you've 122 00:05:48,234 --> 00:05:52,954 Speaker 4: done a project of that size, rather than you know, 123 00:05:53,034 --> 00:05:56,834 Speaker 4: the short SoundBite things your face. 124 00:05:58,553 --> 00:05:59,154 Speaker 2: The project. 125 00:05:59,474 --> 00:06:02,193 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you fucked it by putting the phrase 126 00:06:02,234 --> 00:06:04,193 Speaker 1: into the universe, planted some seeds. 127 00:06:04,753 --> 00:06:08,873 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think maybe the envy I felt for other 128 00:06:08,873 --> 00:06:12,594 Speaker 4: people's creativity dissipated and I just went it's fine, and 129 00:06:12,633 --> 00:06:13,833 Speaker 4: I just didn't try anything. 130 00:06:13,914 --> 00:06:15,553 Speaker 1: What did you do this year that was creative? 131 00:06:16,274 --> 00:06:20,354 Speaker 4: Sometimes Luna asks me to draw an escalator, and I 132 00:06:20,433 --> 00:06:23,713 Speaker 4: draw an escalator. That's the most creative thing I did. 133 00:06:26,633 --> 00:06:28,073 Speaker 2: Your job is pretty creative. 134 00:06:28,313 --> 00:06:29,593 Speaker 4: What I do day to day. 135 00:06:30,274 --> 00:06:31,913 Speaker 1: Creative penis inside your own body. 136 00:06:32,034 --> 00:06:34,633 Speaker 4: Exactly. Neither did that this year. 137 00:06:34,714 --> 00:06:38,074 Speaker 2: Now, didn't you write a you're writing a TV like. 138 00:06:37,993 --> 00:06:41,753 Speaker 4: You are like writing that, Okay, plotting that along and 139 00:06:42,393 --> 00:06:46,593 Speaker 4: thinking as I was twelve months ago about my next book. 140 00:06:47,113 --> 00:06:49,873 Speaker 4: And I and I did speak on a Subscribe episode 141 00:06:49,873 --> 00:06:53,193 Speaker 4: this year about the dock, the twelve page dock that 142 00:06:53,354 --> 00:06:59,313 Speaker 4: just has words like dementia. That's like a cracker gorilla. 143 00:06:59,993 --> 00:07:00,993 Speaker 2: It's just keywords. 144 00:07:01,073 --> 00:07:02,513 Speaker 1: That's like a great Christmas read. 145 00:07:02,633 --> 00:07:07,034 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it'll be like funny. So anyway, that's my. 146 00:07:08,914 --> 00:07:12,114 Speaker 3: But you created in a different way, because as we're 147 00:07:12,154 --> 00:07:14,994 Speaker 3: recording this, you do have twins in your bellies. 148 00:07:15,034 --> 00:07:15,394 Speaker 4: Exactly. 149 00:07:15,674 --> 00:07:18,714 Speaker 2: This is a season for you of creation of a different. 150 00:07:18,393 --> 00:07:21,034 Speaker 3: Type, because you really, really really wanted to be pregnant 151 00:07:21,034 --> 00:07:24,634 Speaker 3: this year, Like we're kind of talking about professional perceived 152 00:07:24,714 --> 00:07:27,914 Speaker 3: failures here, Yeah, but on a personal front, you've been 153 00:07:27,953 --> 00:07:30,154 Speaker 3: through it and you really wanted to have a baby, 154 00:07:30,634 --> 00:07:31,034 Speaker 3: and so I. 155 00:07:30,994 --> 00:07:34,354 Speaker 4: Did create yes in that way. And I also like 156 00:07:34,434 --> 00:07:37,473 Speaker 4: there is something about like early parenthood that is a 157 00:07:37,474 --> 00:07:41,194 Speaker 4: little bit creative and very consuming, very consuming. Every night 158 00:07:41,274 --> 00:07:42,594 Speaker 4: Luna says, tell me a story, and I have to 159 00:07:42,594 --> 00:07:46,554 Speaker 4: tell her a story, and often it's about your house. 160 00:07:47,674 --> 00:07:50,794 Speaker 4: That we went to Nana's house and Nana was being crazy, 161 00:07:51,074 --> 00:07:54,354 Speaker 4: isn't Nana gray? And I just tell us? And then 162 00:07:54,874 --> 00:07:57,394 Speaker 4: Nana was wearing silly clothes, wasn't she? And I just 163 00:07:57,434 --> 00:07:59,834 Speaker 4: like tell a story and it's very plotty, and I 164 00:07:59,874 --> 00:08:01,594 Speaker 4: feel like I am getting better and better, but none 165 00:08:01,634 --> 00:08:03,554 Speaker 4: of it could be published. I think I'm gonna have 166 00:08:03,554 --> 00:08:04,674 Speaker 4: to go in a different direction this. 167 00:08:04,714 --> 00:08:06,153 Speaker 2: Year, different directions this year. 168 00:08:07,514 --> 00:08:09,754 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what 169 00:08:09,794 --> 00:08:12,314 Speaker 1: my word was last year, I like, I never do. 170 00:08:12,634 --> 00:08:17,154 Speaker 1: I've felt very rebellious and like no I was. I 171 00:08:17,154 --> 00:08:18,874 Speaker 1: don't want to do this episode. I don't want to 172 00:08:18,914 --> 00:08:21,234 Speaker 1: record this episode. I don't want to pick the word. 173 00:08:21,434 --> 00:08:23,114 Speaker 1: I don't can't make me. 174 00:08:24,674 --> 00:08:28,074 Speaker 2: Want to Toddler. Shall we go back and find out 175 00:08:28,114 --> 00:08:29,034 Speaker 2: what your word was this year? 176 00:08:29,234 --> 00:08:29,514 Speaker 5: You want? 177 00:08:29,674 --> 00:08:30,474 Speaker 2: The thing is with you? 178 00:08:30,594 --> 00:08:30,674 Speaker 1: Is? 179 00:08:30,714 --> 00:08:32,034 Speaker 2: I think it was a double header. 180 00:08:32,194 --> 00:08:35,113 Speaker 4: Yeah. 181 00:08:35,154 --> 00:08:39,554 Speaker 1: My word is a very boring word, and it is make. 182 00:08:40,794 --> 00:08:41,554 Speaker 1: Let me explain. 183 00:08:41,674 --> 00:08:43,714 Speaker 4: Okay, wait, wait, wait, have you this? 184 00:08:44,514 --> 00:08:45,434 Speaker 1: I've had created? 185 00:08:45,914 --> 00:08:46,234 Speaker 6: Create? 186 00:08:46,314 --> 00:08:48,714 Speaker 4: Okay, you had create? 187 00:08:48,994 --> 00:08:49,314 Speaker 2: I did. 188 00:08:50,114 --> 00:08:52,754 Speaker 1: How is make different? To create? And create is not 189 00:08:52,874 --> 00:08:55,354 Speaker 1: the word that I wanted for this year. The reason 190 00:08:55,394 --> 00:08:58,594 Speaker 1: I like make is I was thinking about the different 191 00:08:58,634 --> 00:09:02,474 Speaker 1: meanings of make. I want to make, not manage. I 192 00:09:02,514 --> 00:09:06,474 Speaker 1: want to make, not moan. I want to make, not mourn. 193 00:09:07,154 --> 00:09:09,474 Speaker 1: I want to make things. I want to make memories. 194 00:09:09,554 --> 00:09:13,754 Speaker 1: I want to make space because create is about fucking productivity. 195 00:09:14,354 --> 00:09:15,114 Speaker 1: I want to create. 196 00:09:15,154 --> 00:09:15,994 Speaker 2: I want to make. 197 00:09:16,074 --> 00:09:19,194 Speaker 1: I want to make. Isn't because meg might be memories, 198 00:09:19,234 --> 00:09:21,514 Speaker 1: make might be space. It feels different. 199 00:09:21,754 --> 00:09:22,554 Speaker 4: Oh I like that. 200 00:09:22,794 --> 00:09:27,114 Speaker 3: I like But Mayor Friedman, what happened was a little 201 00:09:27,154 --> 00:09:29,434 Speaker 3: bit you then changed that word. 202 00:09:30,394 --> 00:09:32,794 Speaker 2: So here's what you changed it too. 203 00:09:33,154 --> 00:09:35,554 Speaker 1: My word was make, and then I decided to change 204 00:09:35,594 --> 00:09:38,074 Speaker 1: it mid January. And I used to be very strict 205 00:09:38,074 --> 00:09:39,834 Speaker 1: with word of the year, and now it's all just 206 00:09:39,914 --> 00:09:42,914 Speaker 1: gone to shit. But so then I decided it was 207 00:09:42,954 --> 00:09:45,074 Speaker 1: going to be let them, because let them was having 208 00:09:45,114 --> 00:09:48,074 Speaker 1: a real moment and I am at heart a basic bitch, 209 00:09:48,234 --> 00:09:50,634 Speaker 1: and so I was like, I want to be that. 210 00:09:50,794 --> 00:09:52,114 Speaker 1: So I want to be let them and I don't 211 00:09:52,154 --> 00:09:54,274 Speaker 1: want to be stressed about all the things in the world. 212 00:09:54,634 --> 00:09:56,554 Speaker 1: If you're wondering why I sound like I'm shouting, that 213 00:09:56,674 --> 00:09:59,554 Speaker 1: was during the live show. I decided to just spontaneously 214 00:09:59,594 --> 00:10:01,994 Speaker 1: on the stage change my word of the year to 215 00:10:02,154 --> 00:10:06,434 Speaker 1: the most sheeplike mainstream viral trend. 216 00:10:06,674 --> 00:10:08,074 Speaker 4: You change shit to fuck them? 217 00:10:08,194 --> 00:10:08,674 Speaker 2: Oh did I? 218 00:10:08,994 --> 00:10:09,194 Speaker 4: Well? 219 00:10:09,594 --> 00:10:11,634 Speaker 2: So changes? 220 00:10:11,714 --> 00:10:13,794 Speaker 3: You went to let them what you talked about on 221 00:10:13,834 --> 00:10:16,274 Speaker 3: the show, then the tour you changed it on stage 222 00:10:16,274 --> 00:10:17,394 Speaker 3: from let them to fuck them. 223 00:10:17,594 --> 00:10:18,474 Speaker 2: Come now here we are. 224 00:10:19,874 --> 00:10:21,634 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the ways I failed at all of 225 00:10:21,634 --> 00:10:24,914 Speaker 1: those words. So make I actually did not a bad 226 00:10:24,994 --> 00:10:27,674 Speaker 1: job that may not manage. I have been working on 227 00:10:27,714 --> 00:10:29,954 Speaker 1: a new podcast for Mum and Maya that he's launching 228 00:10:30,194 --> 00:10:33,394 Speaker 1: this year in a few weeks, and I tried to 229 00:10:33,474 --> 00:10:38,154 Speaker 1: make an audio series and then I just made a mess. 230 00:10:38,514 --> 00:10:41,714 Speaker 1: So I did make. I wrote and finished and didn't finish, 231 00:10:41,754 --> 00:10:43,514 Speaker 1: but got and then I just went, no, I don't 232 00:10:43,594 --> 00:10:45,354 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. And I pulled it, which is 233 00:10:45,354 --> 00:10:47,074 Speaker 1: a whole other story, which I might talk about it 234 00:10:47,114 --> 00:10:50,114 Speaker 1: a later time. So did I make space? I did 235 00:10:50,154 --> 00:10:52,674 Speaker 1: make space. I definitely made space. I've had a big 236 00:10:52,714 --> 00:10:54,194 Speaker 1: year of change, thank you. 237 00:10:54,354 --> 00:10:54,994 Speaker 2: I think I have. 238 00:10:55,154 --> 00:10:57,154 Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe I did make space. 239 00:10:57,514 --> 00:10:59,994 Speaker 3: People keep saying to me like an out louders keep 240 00:10:59,994 --> 00:11:02,314 Speaker 3: saying in the group, oh. 241 00:11:02,274 --> 00:11:05,034 Speaker 2: Not working is really suiting me? Oh, all that time off. 242 00:11:05,074 --> 00:11:07,674 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, no, she's not doing You did 243 00:11:07,674 --> 00:11:10,474 Speaker 3: have some time off off, but she doesn't lay by Paul, No, 244 00:11:10,634 --> 00:11:12,514 Speaker 3: that's not She's not a lying by the pool kind 245 00:11:12,514 --> 00:11:16,034 Speaker 3: of girl. So you've leant out of work in some ways, 246 00:11:16,034 --> 00:11:17,994 Speaker 3: but still into work in lots of ways, just not 247 00:11:18,274 --> 00:11:18,914 Speaker 3: on this show. 248 00:11:19,034 --> 00:11:20,794 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a bit of a break for a while, 249 00:11:20,954 --> 00:11:23,034 Speaker 1: and then I'm sort of working more on the business 250 00:11:23,114 --> 00:11:26,674 Speaker 1: rather than in the business, but certainly making some space 251 00:11:26,714 --> 00:11:29,234 Speaker 1: by not doing the pod every day. Let them, I 252 00:11:29,234 --> 00:11:31,034 Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck that was about, And fuck them, 253 00:11:31,074 --> 00:11:32,594 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what that was about. 254 00:11:33,114 --> 00:11:36,314 Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel very stuck this year about what 255 00:11:36,434 --> 00:11:38,034 Speaker 1: my word's going to be. So I want to hear 256 00:11:38,074 --> 00:11:38,834 Speaker 1: yours for inspo. 257 00:11:39,474 --> 00:11:42,074 Speaker 3: We have to address one thing, which is that the 258 00:11:42,074 --> 00:11:45,514 Speaker 3: fact that we routinely fail at our words. Does that 259 00:11:45,674 --> 00:11:48,354 Speaker 3: undermine the whole purpose of this episode or is that 260 00:11:48,434 --> 00:11:49,314 Speaker 3: kind of part of the point. 261 00:11:49,394 --> 00:11:51,914 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm going in with more hope than ever. 262 00:11:52,354 --> 00:11:55,714 Speaker 4: Like I think that the hope that kills you. I 263 00:11:55,754 --> 00:11:58,714 Speaker 4: think we go in believing we will be different people 264 00:11:58,754 --> 00:12:01,394 Speaker 4: this year and believing that we will evolve. And this 265 00:12:01,514 --> 00:12:03,114 Speaker 4: is my theory. I have brought it up on every 266 00:12:03,114 --> 00:12:05,394 Speaker 4: Word of the Year episode, which is that sometimes it 267 00:12:05,434 --> 00:12:08,474 Speaker 4: takes a year or two for it to full Like 268 00:12:08,674 --> 00:12:10,314 Speaker 4: I had words that I was like, Oh, I didn't 269 00:12:10,314 --> 00:12:12,754 Speaker 4: do it, Like sometimes it takes you a little while. 270 00:12:12,754 --> 00:12:14,354 Speaker 4: Maybe you'll be the Queen of NAP this year. 271 00:12:14,474 --> 00:12:17,034 Speaker 1: Maybe it's also meant to be setting your sat navs 272 00:12:17,074 --> 00:12:19,474 Speaker 1: Like you might not get there, you might end up 273 00:12:19,474 --> 00:12:22,114 Speaker 1: somewhere different. Maybe this wasn't the year to get there. 274 00:12:22,154 --> 00:12:23,714 Speaker 2: But I do quite like. 275 00:12:23,754 --> 00:12:26,754 Speaker 1: Coming back and like for you whole your word was nup, 276 00:12:27,274 --> 00:12:29,754 Speaker 1: but life got in the way and you wouldn't have 277 00:12:29,794 --> 00:12:31,634 Speaker 1: had it Differently, It's not like you were going to say, NAP, 278 00:12:31,714 --> 00:12:34,634 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do all these things. I'm trying 279 00:12:34,634 --> 00:12:34,954 Speaker 1: to make you. 280 00:12:34,914 --> 00:12:38,674 Speaker 4: Feel bad and we need new sticks to beat ourselves. 281 00:12:38,714 --> 00:12:41,674 Speaker 4: With that's true, we need a new one. Are you 282 00:12:41,674 --> 00:12:44,554 Speaker 4: feeling hot hot pressure? 283 00:12:45,034 --> 00:12:45,954 Speaker 2: Do you think it's the pressure? 284 00:12:46,074 --> 00:12:47,994 Speaker 1: Are you having a word flash situation? 285 00:12:48,274 --> 00:12:50,594 Speaker 2: I don't think so because that's kind of past. 286 00:12:50,754 --> 00:12:55,914 Speaker 3: But I am feeling very hostile. I'm like, shit, maybe 287 00:12:55,914 --> 00:12:59,314 Speaker 3: that's going to be my word of the years. Flush 288 00:13:00,194 --> 00:13:03,394 Speaker 3: will be there. We'll be back in a minute, jumping 289 00:13:03,394 --> 00:13:04,953 Speaker 3: on each other. We'll be back in a minute with 290 00:13:04,954 --> 00:13:06,794 Speaker 3: what our words are going to be for this year? 291 00:13:07,514 --> 00:13:11,274 Speaker 2: Okay, am I going first? Shit? So I did word. 292 00:13:13,354 --> 00:13:16,034 Speaker 3: I have actually chosen a word that isn't dissimilar to shit, 293 00:13:16,154 --> 00:13:19,234 Speaker 3: because what I realized is the last few years I've 294 00:13:19,234 --> 00:13:22,834 Speaker 3: been setting words that are like this year, I'm going 295 00:13:22,914 --> 00:13:23,994 Speaker 3: to be X. 296 00:13:24,074 --> 00:13:27,114 Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna be why. And it's always the. 297 00:13:27,074 --> 00:13:29,794 Speaker 3: Similar theme, which is like I'm going to simplify, it's 298 00:13:29,834 --> 00:13:31,754 Speaker 3: going to be calm. It's going to be like there's 299 00:13:31,754 --> 00:13:34,714 Speaker 3: always something in that space, isn't it? 300 00:13:34,794 --> 00:13:34,994 Speaker 5: You know? 301 00:13:35,194 --> 00:13:36,274 Speaker 2: And it never happens. 302 00:13:36,554 --> 00:13:39,434 Speaker 3: And the reason it never happens is because I don't 303 00:13:39,474 --> 00:13:41,754 Speaker 3: think I really do want that, do you know what 304 00:13:41,754 --> 00:13:44,794 Speaker 3: I mean? It's profound, like I think I think that 305 00:13:44,874 --> 00:13:48,754 Speaker 3: I think I want this, like very calm everything's going 306 00:13:48,834 --> 00:13:51,354 Speaker 3: to be fine. I'm gonna make everything. But I think 307 00:13:51,394 --> 00:13:53,434 Speaker 3: if I really wanted that, I'd make it happen. In 308 00:13:53,474 --> 00:13:56,554 Speaker 3: the words of Carrie Bradshaw, I always think about this. 309 00:13:56,674 --> 00:13:58,914 Speaker 3: I think she did an episode was called Catch thirty eight. 310 00:13:58,914 --> 00:14:00,314 Speaker 3: I know exactly what it was in Sex and the 311 00:14:00,314 --> 00:14:02,554 Speaker 3: City where she was like. She was talking about how 312 00:14:02,554 --> 00:14:03,994 Speaker 3: she hadn't had a baby, and she was like, if 313 00:14:04,074 --> 00:14:06,234 Speaker 3: i'd have really wanted a baby, I would have had one, 314 00:14:06,314 --> 00:14:07,674 Speaker 3: just like I wanted to be a writer and I 315 00:14:07,714 --> 00:14:08,314 Speaker 3: became a writer. 316 00:14:08,394 --> 00:14:10,554 Speaker 2: I wanted to move to New York. And she's like, 317 00:14:11,114 --> 00:14:13,754 Speaker 2: sometimes you say you will just say that too. 318 00:14:14,954 --> 00:14:17,754 Speaker 3: You say you want things, but do you really So 319 00:14:17,914 --> 00:14:22,234 Speaker 3: I think my word for this is going to be messy. 320 00:14:22,594 --> 00:14:23,794 Speaker 1: I think you'll be so good. 321 00:14:23,594 --> 00:14:26,394 Speaker 3: At that because I think my life is messy. It 322 00:14:26,474 --> 00:14:31,154 Speaker 3: is kind of complicated, it's in different places. Teenagers are messy, 323 00:14:31,594 --> 00:14:33,794 Speaker 3: and I think that maybe it's time to pick a 324 00:14:33,834 --> 00:14:38,594 Speaker 3: word that accept who I am rather than challenges who 325 00:14:38,634 --> 00:14:38,914 Speaker 3: I am. 326 00:14:39,314 --> 00:14:39,594 Speaker 2: Do you know? 327 00:14:39,754 --> 00:14:39,954 Speaker 1: Oh? 328 00:14:40,074 --> 00:14:42,634 Speaker 4: I like that? And when we were speaking, that's. 329 00:14:42,474 --> 00:14:45,194 Speaker 1: A pivot what twist I did not seek. 330 00:14:45,354 --> 00:14:48,554 Speaker 4: We were talking a month ago about how the vibe 331 00:14:48,634 --> 00:14:50,834 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty six is going to be chaos, Like 332 00:14:50,914 --> 00:14:55,194 Speaker 4: it's going to be messiness for me back online, like 333 00:14:55,354 --> 00:15:00,154 Speaker 4: this kind of curated, I don't know, hyper political thing. 334 00:15:00,314 --> 00:15:02,074 Speaker 4: Now we're all just a man, no, And. 335 00:15:01,994 --> 00:15:05,314 Speaker 3: I think it's kind of like I'm always fighting against that, 336 00:15:05,634 --> 00:15:08,234 Speaker 3: and even my opinions and your thoughts are like they 337 00:15:08,274 --> 00:15:11,474 Speaker 3: need to fit into this narrow thing of like this 338 00:15:11,634 --> 00:15:13,594 Speaker 3: is what you should think about that, And I'm like, 339 00:15:14,274 --> 00:15:16,754 Speaker 3: maybe it's just time to lean into the mess a 340 00:15:16,754 --> 00:15:19,474 Speaker 3: little bit. I love it, the imperfection and the mess. 341 00:15:19,514 --> 00:15:21,754 Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's a cop out out 342 00:15:21,754 --> 00:15:23,434 Speaker 3: loud as. I'm sure you'll tell me if it's a 343 00:15:23,474 --> 00:15:26,994 Speaker 3: cop out, because it means I'm not striving for something. 344 00:15:27,234 --> 00:15:27,314 Speaker 5: No. 345 00:15:27,474 --> 00:15:33,074 Speaker 1: I think it's about like not fighting against your life stage. Like, yeah, 346 00:15:33,234 --> 00:15:36,514 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on, it's exciting, it is messy. 347 00:15:37,154 --> 00:15:38,354 Speaker 1: This is really interesting. 348 00:15:38,514 --> 00:15:42,074 Speaker 2: I didn't know that there's good there's some good stuff 349 00:15:42,114 --> 00:15:43,234 Speaker 2: in the mess, you know what I mean. 350 00:15:43,274 --> 00:15:45,834 Speaker 4: That's what I mean, Like, it's not it's embracing the season. 351 00:15:45,954 --> 00:15:48,954 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's embracing the season, which is a very busy 352 00:15:49,034 --> 00:15:52,754 Speaker 3: time in my life in general. But also there's a 353 00:15:52,754 --> 00:15:55,794 Speaker 3: lot of good things about that instead of being fighting 354 00:15:55,834 --> 00:15:58,194 Speaker 3: against the chaos, I'm kind of going. 355 00:15:58,034 --> 00:15:59,714 Speaker 2: It's okay, the chaos is okay. 356 00:16:00,154 --> 00:16:03,114 Speaker 3: Otherwise, I often wake up on Sundays, for example. I 357 00:16:03,114 --> 00:16:05,194 Speaker 3: think we've talked about this on the show, and I 358 00:16:05,194 --> 00:16:08,114 Speaker 3: get really stressed on Sundays. Not because I'm dreading work, 359 00:16:08,194 --> 00:16:11,154 Speaker 3: not in that way, but more oh my god, all 360 00:16:11,194 --> 00:16:12,954 Speaker 3: these things I said I was going to do I 361 00:16:12,994 --> 00:16:16,354 Speaker 3: haven't done. Yeah, And like, today's the day. In this 362 00:16:16,514 --> 00:16:18,594 Speaker 3: eight hour period, I'm going to get everything in my 363 00:16:18,634 --> 00:16:20,554 Speaker 3: life sorted out, and I'm going to make sure the 364 00:16:20,634 --> 00:16:23,114 Speaker 3: house and the family and the clothes and the food 365 00:16:23,154 --> 00:16:26,394 Speaker 3: and the dad as well as you know, what's going 366 00:16:26,434 --> 00:16:28,154 Speaker 3: to happen in my work this week, where I'm going 367 00:16:28,194 --> 00:16:30,914 Speaker 3: to be who's doing what? And like I'm always beating 368 00:16:30,914 --> 00:16:33,794 Speaker 3: myself with the stick of why are things chaotic? And 369 00:16:33,874 --> 00:16:37,074 Speaker 3: things are chaotic because maybe like life is chaotic, you. 370 00:16:37,114 --> 00:16:40,234 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, you could make it less chaotic, but it 371 00:16:40,274 --> 00:16:41,394 Speaker 4: would also be more boring. 372 00:16:41,594 --> 00:16:41,874 Speaker 2: Yeah. 373 00:16:41,914 --> 00:16:43,714 Speaker 3: So I think that this year I'm going to lean 374 00:16:43,754 --> 00:16:45,794 Speaker 3: into the mess and I think I'm going to give 375 00:16:45,794 --> 00:16:46,754 Speaker 3: myself a break. 376 00:16:47,034 --> 00:16:48,994 Speaker 2: I like that a lot. What I love that we 377 00:16:49,154 --> 00:16:50,234 Speaker 2: think about that. 378 00:16:50,354 --> 00:16:53,394 Speaker 1: Five stars would recommend. I think that is sounds like 379 00:16:53,434 --> 00:16:55,034 Speaker 1: a really good word for you. And I like this 380 00:16:55,114 --> 00:16:58,954 Speaker 1: idea of description rather than aspiration, because the whole idea 381 00:16:58,994 --> 00:17:00,834 Speaker 1: of word of the year was originally meant to be 382 00:17:01,674 --> 00:17:03,914 Speaker 1: not so you would set yourself up for failure in 383 00:17:03,954 --> 00:17:06,833 Speaker 1: the way that news resolutions do. And I feel like 384 00:17:06,874 --> 00:17:10,394 Speaker 1: we've sort of fallen into optimizing culture a little bit. 385 00:17:10,474 --> 00:17:12,674 Speaker 1: We have and been like, I'm going to be better 386 00:17:12,674 --> 00:17:14,834 Speaker 1: this year. I'm going to be better, whereas it's more 387 00:17:14,914 --> 00:17:18,474 Speaker 1: kind of setting an intention or now maybe a description. 388 00:17:18,914 --> 00:17:20,834 Speaker 3: I keep looking in the mirror, for example, and going 389 00:17:20,874 --> 00:17:22,354 Speaker 3: I need to get carrot and again. 390 00:17:23,634 --> 00:17:26,354 Speaker 2: Maybe, but maybe I don't. 391 00:17:26,434 --> 00:17:29,514 Speaker 3: I don't think maybe while I'm still like of an 392 00:17:29,554 --> 00:17:33,074 Speaker 3: age where I can have like long, big messy hair, Let's. 393 00:17:32,794 --> 00:17:34,313 Speaker 2: Just fucking have big, long, messy hair. 394 00:17:34,714 --> 00:17:35,834 Speaker 1: And I can see your signature. 395 00:17:35,914 --> 00:17:36,434 Speaker 2: I love it. 396 00:17:36,874 --> 00:17:39,273 Speaker 4: I think I've stuffed up my word because I've just 397 00:17:39,354 --> 00:17:42,794 Speaker 4: changed mine. I think what I did was I'm now 398 00:17:42,874 --> 00:17:47,554 Speaker 4: asking myself this word that you've chosen, is it truly 399 00:17:47,634 --> 00:17:50,714 Speaker 4: what you want? Or are you scared of it? And 400 00:17:50,754 --> 00:17:54,074 Speaker 4: I think I am scared of it because of what 401 00:17:54,274 --> 00:17:56,554 Speaker 4: will happen if I fully embrace it. So the word 402 00:17:56,714 --> 00:17:59,274 Speaker 4: it has actually been in the word of the year 403 00:17:59,794 --> 00:18:03,794 Speaker 4: world before. One of us is Saturn. And as soon 404 00:18:03,834 --> 00:18:07,273 Speaker 4: as I went, oh, okay, we're recording this episode, my 405 00:18:07,314 --> 00:18:10,434 Speaker 4: word going to be it. Just immediately Bam knew it. 406 00:18:10,434 --> 00:18:12,114 Speaker 4: It was like the universe went, this has to be 407 00:18:12,154 --> 00:18:12,474 Speaker 4: your word? 408 00:18:12,514 --> 00:18:14,434 Speaker 1: Do you allowed the same word more than once? 409 00:18:14,754 --> 00:18:16,194 Speaker 2: I think so, because I think you should. 410 00:18:17,154 --> 00:18:21,474 Speaker 4: I think so. I'm stealing yours from a few years ago, MAYU, 411 00:18:21,554 --> 00:18:22,314 Speaker 4: which was grace. 412 00:18:22,874 --> 00:18:26,114 Speaker 1: I think you chose that's such a good word. 413 00:18:26,314 --> 00:18:26,514 Speaker 5: Now. 414 00:18:26,554 --> 00:18:29,794 Speaker 4: The reason memory I think you would read Julia Baird's book. 415 00:18:31,714 --> 00:18:34,834 Speaker 4: The reason why I've chosen that is because I've gone, 416 00:18:34,994 --> 00:18:38,354 Speaker 4: I'm looking down the barrel at what will, on paper 417 00:18:38,874 --> 00:18:42,874 Speaker 4: be the most overwhelming year of my life. Right Like, 418 00:18:42,914 --> 00:18:45,274 Speaker 4: there's no one that says the first year with twins 419 00:18:45,354 --> 00:18:47,034 Speaker 4: is easy. There's one story, and it's going to be 420 00:18:47,074 --> 00:18:48,914 Speaker 4: full on. It's going to be beautiful in all the things, 421 00:18:48,914 --> 00:18:52,154 Speaker 4: but it's going to be full on. And I remember 422 00:18:52,194 --> 00:18:55,874 Speaker 4: someone saying when I first discovered I was having twins, 423 00:18:55,874 --> 00:18:59,914 Speaker 4: they said, you'll be surprised that there's actually less judgment 424 00:19:00,754 --> 00:19:03,074 Speaker 4: because most people only know what it's like to have 425 00:19:03,074 --> 00:19:03,754 Speaker 4: one at a time. 426 00:19:03,874 --> 00:19:06,434 Speaker 1: I've heard that from Twin mar Yeah, they. 427 00:19:06,234 --> 00:19:08,793 Speaker 4: Say, like you know how there's like, oh solid sleep 428 00:19:08,874 --> 00:19:10,234 Speaker 4: training formula? 429 00:19:10,314 --> 00:19:10,634 Speaker 2: Did it? 430 00:19:10,714 --> 00:19:13,594 Speaker 4: A lot of people go, if you have multiples, you 431 00:19:13,674 --> 00:19:15,954 Speaker 4: do you to stay sane. 432 00:19:16,154 --> 00:19:19,034 Speaker 1: One of my friends says that that people expect nothing. 433 00:19:19,114 --> 00:19:21,793 Speaker 1: They expect that they help youah. 434 00:19:21,274 --> 00:19:23,434 Speaker 4: Because they're just like, WHOA, I couldn't do it right. 435 00:19:24,074 --> 00:19:28,874 Speaker 1: So except fran Stevens, who's like, hold my pop, that is. 436 00:19:28,874 --> 00:19:29,793 Speaker 2: One of your problems. 437 00:19:29,914 --> 00:19:34,553 Speaker 4: But is anything that that woman has is like she 438 00:19:34,794 --> 00:19:38,354 Speaker 4: gives herself a lot of grace and her mantra is 439 00:19:38,634 --> 00:19:40,194 Speaker 4: be kind to yourself. She says it all the time. 440 00:19:40,354 --> 00:19:41,034 Speaker 2: She says, you got to be. 441 00:19:40,994 --> 00:19:47,154 Speaker 4: Canty, and I'm so bad at that you are, and 442 00:19:47,354 --> 00:19:51,754 Speaker 4: like you're your perspection bad at it. I don't give 443 00:19:51,794 --> 00:19:55,314 Speaker 4: myself grace in any arena. And even with exercising through pregnancy, 444 00:19:56,234 --> 00:20:00,274 Speaker 4: I have exercised through pain and discomfort in a way 445 00:20:00,274 --> 00:20:02,354 Speaker 4: that I think has left me in a like, you know, 446 00:20:02,514 --> 00:20:03,474 Speaker 4: in a way. 447 00:20:03,274 --> 00:20:04,954 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have about that today. 448 00:20:05,154 --> 00:20:08,034 Speaker 4: And I I was swimming the other day and I went, 449 00:20:08,314 --> 00:20:11,234 Speaker 4: this is grace and if you can only swim half 450 00:20:11,234 --> 00:20:15,513 Speaker 4: the distance, give yourself grace, Like you know how the 451 00:20:15,634 --> 00:20:18,474 Speaker 4: universe will like keep trying to teach you the same lesson. Ye, 452 00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:20,874 Speaker 4: Like I had no grace during my first pregnancy, So 453 00:20:20,914 --> 00:20:22,674 Speaker 4: it's like the universe went, now we're going to throw 454 00:20:22,714 --> 00:20:24,994 Speaker 4: you too and see if you get it yet that 455 00:20:25,114 --> 00:20:28,394 Speaker 4: you can't go like, yeah, you can't try and do 456 00:20:28,434 --> 00:20:30,034 Speaker 4: it better than everyone else or whatever. 457 00:20:30,314 --> 00:20:32,313 Speaker 1: You're so unkind to yourself, I think, hole and I 458 00:20:32,354 --> 00:20:35,754 Speaker 1: am more kind to ourselves like we. I think I 459 00:20:35,834 --> 00:20:38,674 Speaker 1: give myself quite a lot of grace, like I'm tortured 460 00:20:38,714 --> 00:20:41,674 Speaker 1: and you're tortured in different ways. But I think I 461 00:20:41,714 --> 00:20:43,994 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe when you've been around the block more 462 00:20:44,194 --> 00:20:45,514 Speaker 1: times as we have. 463 00:20:46,194 --> 00:20:50,594 Speaker 3: Really hard on myself, but I'm not a perfectionist, and 464 00:20:49,674 --> 00:20:54,874 Speaker 3: I think that your perfectionism makes you particularly hard on yourself. Yeah, 465 00:20:55,034 --> 00:20:58,394 Speaker 3: you're very much like always, I expect a lot of 466 00:20:58,394 --> 00:21:01,474 Speaker 3: myself at all times, so you get very disappointed self easily. 467 00:21:01,514 --> 00:21:04,074 Speaker 3: But I think what I've been thinking about with you 468 00:21:04,514 --> 00:21:08,474 Speaker 3: through this pregnancy is obviously we all remember your last 469 00:21:08,474 --> 00:21:11,194 Speaker 3: pregnancy and that was really hard at times too, right, 470 00:21:11,354 --> 00:21:14,754 Speaker 3: like it really was. But then I also just remember 471 00:21:15,554 --> 00:21:18,994 Speaker 3: when you had Luna and that shift in your entire 472 00:21:19,234 --> 00:21:23,434 Speaker 3: energy which hung around like it hung there that's what 473 00:21:23,474 --> 00:21:27,273 Speaker 3: I mean. It's like it was so profound. You were 474 00:21:27,314 --> 00:21:29,594 Speaker 3: talking to us the other day about how everybody goes. 475 00:21:29,474 --> 00:21:30,874 Speaker 2: Oh, pregnant twins, Oh my god. 476 00:21:30,954 --> 00:21:34,114 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's almost like they expect cast some kind 477 00:21:34,154 --> 00:21:38,114 Speaker 3: of negativity on you. But I also just think, oh 478 00:21:38,194 --> 00:21:41,273 Speaker 3: my god, you are very well placed to be in 479 00:21:41,314 --> 00:21:42,794 Speaker 3: this position of the joy. 480 00:21:42,794 --> 00:21:44,554 Speaker 2: It's as well as the heart. 481 00:21:44,674 --> 00:21:46,634 Speaker 4: That's the only way the joy is going to be 482 00:21:46,714 --> 00:21:50,074 Speaker 4: found is if a bit of grace, whether it's like 483 00:21:50,834 --> 00:21:53,834 Speaker 4: the chances of me being able to like exclusively breastfeed 484 00:21:53,834 --> 00:21:56,074 Speaker 4: these twins, Like, let's be real, like it's probably going 485 00:21:56,154 --> 00:21:59,354 Speaker 4: to be really really hard, accept I know it, try harder. 486 00:21:59,754 --> 00:22:02,274 Speaker 4: I'm going to need like lots more help. There are 487 00:22:02,314 --> 00:22:05,833 Speaker 4: just all of those things, and there's something that happens, 488 00:22:05,874 --> 00:22:08,434 Speaker 4: like I remember when I had Luna, the way you 489 00:22:08,474 --> 00:22:10,914 Speaker 4: speak to them, right, You're just like, look at you 490 00:22:10,994 --> 00:22:13,474 Speaker 4: with your feeding and your bluff. And I found this 491 00:22:13,554 --> 00:22:15,834 Speaker 4: click happened in my brain where I went, oh, sometimes 492 00:22:15,874 --> 00:22:18,834 Speaker 4: I'm catching myself doing that to myself after a big day, 493 00:22:18,874 --> 00:22:21,114 Speaker 4: I go, look at you. You looked after your child 494 00:22:21,114 --> 00:22:24,313 Speaker 4: and you made her dinner. You know that kind of 495 00:22:24,434 --> 00:22:27,594 Speaker 4: self grace reparenting that's grace where you go. 496 00:22:27,794 --> 00:22:30,634 Speaker 1: I love that you say that, because sometimes you can go, oh, 497 00:22:30,674 --> 00:22:32,234 Speaker 1: what does it mean to have grace? Like, have I 498 00:22:32,234 --> 00:22:35,194 Speaker 1: had grace to myself today? You can just literally use 499 00:22:35,194 --> 00:22:37,634 Speaker 1: that as a tool and go, what would I say 500 00:22:37,674 --> 00:22:40,354 Speaker 1: to myself today in the voice of Grace? 501 00:22:40,634 --> 00:22:42,754 Speaker 4: Yes, how do I? How do I speak to them? 502 00:22:43,034 --> 00:22:45,194 Speaker 4: And like, what are my expectations. 503 00:22:44,634 --> 00:22:45,914 Speaker 1: Would Grace say to me today? 504 00:22:46,034 --> 00:22:46,274 Speaker 2: Yeah? 505 00:22:46,394 --> 00:22:48,514 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, she's going to call her female 506 00:22:48,874 --> 00:22:51,314 Speaker 3: grace very religious? 507 00:22:52,354 --> 00:22:55,954 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's. 508 00:22:58,074 --> 00:22:59,434 Speaker 2: Well, not too. 509 00:22:59,354 --> 00:23:01,914 Speaker 4: Much pressure, hopefully. But I feel like you've. 510 00:23:01,754 --> 00:23:04,234 Speaker 1: Taken it to a whole other level and I'm intimidating. 511 00:23:04,274 --> 00:23:08,674 Speaker 4: I think we said that last year. And how about you, mate? Now, 512 00:23:08,674 --> 00:23:10,434 Speaker 4: have you changed it throughout the course of this record? 513 00:23:10,554 --> 00:23:11,034 Speaker 2: Yes? Okay. 514 00:23:11,234 --> 00:23:13,354 Speaker 3: The thing I have good about yours Jesse too, is 515 00:23:13,354 --> 00:23:15,354 Speaker 3: that we can use it at you when she's given 516 00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:16,274 Speaker 3: herself a hard time? 517 00:23:16,354 --> 00:23:18,874 Speaker 2: Can we we can be like, yes, Grace, Jesse, Yes, 518 00:23:19,034 --> 00:23:20,354 Speaker 2: like we used to Holly. 519 00:23:20,554 --> 00:23:23,794 Speaker 1: We weaponized it and beat her with the word not Yeah. Yeah, 520 00:23:24,154 --> 00:23:25,714 Speaker 1: so you know I love to mock you with a word. 521 00:23:26,114 --> 00:23:30,434 Speaker 1: Now I have another one go on. Okay, So after 522 00:23:30,514 --> 00:23:31,954 Speaker 1: just going I don't want to do it. Then I'm like, 523 00:23:31,994 --> 00:23:33,314 Speaker 1: I know what I'll do. I'll just get them to 524 00:23:33,394 --> 00:23:35,674 Speaker 1: choose a word for me in what would your word 525 00:23:35,674 --> 00:23:36,194 Speaker 1: be if you had. 526 00:23:36,154 --> 00:23:36,834 Speaker 2: To choose one for me? 527 00:23:37,874 --> 00:23:41,794 Speaker 1: I don't really mean because shure, she's I liked that. 528 00:23:44,314 --> 00:23:46,794 Speaker 3: I was thinking about this before, and because this year 529 00:23:46,874 --> 00:23:48,074 Speaker 3: has been a lot of change for. 530 00:23:47,994 --> 00:23:51,553 Speaker 2: You so much, and I don't know what your. 531 00:23:51,474 --> 00:23:55,434 Speaker 3: Next chapter is, Like, I genuinely feel like there's a 532 00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:58,274 Speaker 3: lot of mystery about twenty twenty six, which is exciting. 533 00:23:58,394 --> 00:24:02,634 Speaker 1: Well, there actually isn't. And interestingly, when I started to 534 00:24:02,674 --> 00:24:05,754 Speaker 1: think about it in the last fifteen minutes since we've 535 00:24:05,794 --> 00:24:11,314 Speaker 1: been talking, I suddenly remembered a time just a month 536 00:24:11,394 --> 00:24:13,914 Speaker 1: or two or three ago, Jesse, when you were away 537 00:24:14,634 --> 00:24:16,514 Speaker 1: and she was staying with me, and I was also 538 00:24:16,554 --> 00:24:18,273 Speaker 1: looking after her during the day, and I didn't know 539 00:24:18,314 --> 00:24:20,874 Speaker 1: how I'd cope with that because there was no other childcare. 540 00:24:21,114 --> 00:24:23,073 Speaker 1: So it was about three or four days where I 541 00:24:23,194 --> 00:24:26,754 Speaker 1: was a stay at home nana. Primary care, Yeah, primary care, 542 00:24:26,874 --> 00:24:30,914 Speaker 1: stay at home nana. I fucking loved it. I fucking 543 00:24:30,954 --> 00:24:34,154 Speaker 1: loved it, and I met a side of myself that 544 00:24:34,234 --> 00:24:38,033 Speaker 1: I didn't know was there, and I kind of surprised 545 00:24:38,034 --> 00:24:39,954 Speaker 1: myself with how much I enjoyed it, because I didn't 546 00:24:40,514 --> 00:24:42,794 Speaker 1: like staying home with my own kids even at all. 547 00:24:43,514 --> 00:24:47,793 Speaker 1: And Jason actually said to me, it's been incredible to 548 00:24:47,874 --> 00:24:51,194 Speaker 1: watch you this week, Like he said, I just got 549 00:24:52,154 --> 00:24:55,914 Speaker 1: this image of the future of what is going to 550 00:24:55,954 --> 00:24:58,154 Speaker 1: be the next few years of your life. And he 551 00:24:58,154 --> 00:25:01,434 Speaker 1: said it was really beautiful, and I was like, huh, 552 00:25:01,474 --> 00:25:03,714 Speaker 1: And then I sort of didn't think about it. And 553 00:25:03,714 --> 00:25:06,634 Speaker 1: so then when I was thinking about this year, and 554 00:25:06,674 --> 00:25:09,154 Speaker 1: I was thinking thinking about, you know, your due with 555 00:25:09,234 --> 00:25:12,114 Speaker 1: twins in a couple of months, and not only are 556 00:25:12,114 --> 00:25:15,394 Speaker 1: they going to be two babies, but also Luna is 557 00:25:15,434 --> 00:25:18,914 Speaker 1: going to need more, you know, to give you the 558 00:25:18,954 --> 00:25:22,714 Speaker 1: space to devote and everything. And you know it's hard 559 00:25:22,914 --> 00:25:26,074 Speaker 1: for any sibling, older sibling when the new babies come along, 560 00:25:26,154 --> 00:25:28,914 Speaker 1: let alone when there's two. And so I thought, okay, 561 00:25:28,954 --> 00:25:30,474 Speaker 1: so there'll be stuff for me to do. And I 562 00:25:30,554 --> 00:25:33,714 Speaker 1: always like to have jobs and purpose because I really 563 00:25:33,754 --> 00:25:36,794 Speaker 1: struggled when Luna came along about what was my purpose 564 00:25:36,834 --> 00:25:38,674 Speaker 1: and what did it mean to be and nana and 565 00:25:38,754 --> 00:25:40,273 Speaker 1: I didn't know, I didn't even know it why I 566 00:25:40,274 --> 00:25:42,874 Speaker 1: would be called. So then I thought my word of 567 00:25:42,914 --> 00:25:45,314 Speaker 1: the year will be Nana. And then I thought, while 568 00:25:45,354 --> 00:25:47,914 Speaker 1: you were talking Hole, you said something about seasons, and 569 00:25:47,954 --> 00:25:50,474 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, no, my word of the year is 570 00:25:50,594 --> 00:25:55,793 Speaker 1: season because Nana is quite prescriptive, but I might have 571 00:25:55,834 --> 00:26:00,194 Speaker 1: several seasons through this year. But it's about I've felt 572 00:26:00,234 --> 00:26:03,354 Speaker 1: so lost over the last few years because i haven't 573 00:26:03,394 --> 00:26:06,474 Speaker 1: known what season I'm in. I've just felt like I'm 574 00:26:06,514 --> 00:26:10,514 Speaker 1: in hell in many ways, not every day or anything, 575 00:26:10,554 --> 00:26:15,394 Speaker 1: but just going through that identity crisis of midlife and transitioning. 576 00:26:15,874 --> 00:26:18,394 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's really clear what season you're in, and that 577 00:26:18,474 --> 00:26:21,313 Speaker 4: can be very you know what your purpose is. But 578 00:26:21,354 --> 00:26:23,994 Speaker 4: then sometimes you're going I'm floating between seasons and I 579 00:26:24,034 --> 00:26:25,914 Speaker 4: don't know what I'm meant to be doing exactly. 580 00:26:26,474 --> 00:26:30,394 Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm just going to really lean 581 00:26:30,474 --> 00:26:34,593 Speaker 1: into whatever seasons this year brings, and I don't have 582 00:26:34,674 --> 00:26:36,234 Speaker 1: to know what they are. I know what one of 583 00:26:36,274 --> 00:26:38,994 Speaker 1: them is, which is going to be the season of Nana. 584 00:26:39,514 --> 00:26:42,714 Speaker 1: Will there be other seasons overlaid onto that I don't know? 585 00:26:43,314 --> 00:26:48,354 Speaker 1: But I'm just going to really not fight my life stage. 586 00:26:48,674 --> 00:26:52,034 Speaker 2: Ye, the embracing of the season. 587 00:26:52,154 --> 00:26:54,954 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a little bit like with you in Messy 588 00:26:54,994 --> 00:26:55,674 Speaker 1: and you with grace. 589 00:26:55,754 --> 00:27:00,354 Speaker 3: It's just like we find that our works connected even 590 00:27:00,394 --> 00:27:02,274 Speaker 3: though we never tell each other what they are before 591 00:27:02,314 --> 00:27:04,034 Speaker 3: we move we walk into the room. 592 00:27:04,514 --> 00:27:07,074 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so true. I think sometimes you try and 593 00:27:07,194 --> 00:27:09,954 Speaker 4: guy against the grain and then that sets you up 594 00:27:09,994 --> 00:27:11,434 Speaker 4: for fear, like n it was never going to work 595 00:27:11,474 --> 00:27:11,994 Speaker 4: for you this year. 596 00:27:12,474 --> 00:27:16,674 Speaker 1: And also Nana doesn't encompass the other parts of my 597 00:27:16,754 --> 00:27:18,714 Speaker 1: life that I'm in that season, Like my kids have 598 00:27:19,234 --> 00:27:22,074 Speaker 1: grown up now. My youngest is going to finish school 599 00:27:22,154 --> 00:27:23,554 Speaker 1: at the end of this year, so this. 600 00:27:23,634 --> 00:27:24,794 Speaker 2: Is going to be his HC. 601 00:27:25,074 --> 00:27:27,994 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is his HC all the kids through school. 602 00:27:28,114 --> 00:27:33,314 Speaker 1: So it's like, I'm really enjoying all the different aspects 603 00:27:33,314 --> 00:27:36,513 Speaker 1: of this season, and I want to just try and focus. 604 00:27:36,594 --> 00:27:40,114 Speaker 3: Can I ask you with that this is rabbit holing maybe, 605 00:27:40,114 --> 00:27:42,274 Speaker 3: but do you remember because I do because we've worked 606 00:27:42,274 --> 00:27:46,354 Speaker 3: together this long. When Luca left school, you spent the 607 00:27:46,634 --> 00:27:50,034 Speaker 3: in tears because you were like, oh, my baby, right, 608 00:27:50,474 --> 00:27:53,314 Speaker 3: and now your youngest is going to finish school too, 609 00:27:53,474 --> 00:27:55,034 Speaker 3: and this is about the seasons. 610 00:27:55,034 --> 00:27:56,194 Speaker 2: Thing I guess is that. 611 00:27:56,554 --> 00:27:58,513 Speaker 3: Everybody talks about how hard it is to watch your 612 00:27:58,554 --> 00:28:02,194 Speaker 3: kids grow up, but you've settled into the season of 613 00:28:02,274 --> 00:28:05,793 Speaker 3: having kids in a different phase rather than fighting against it. 614 00:28:05,874 --> 00:28:07,754 Speaker 3: So do you think it will be really front watching 615 00:28:07,914 --> 00:28:08,154 Speaker 3: I do. 616 00:28:08,474 --> 00:28:12,354 Speaker 1: It's already different. It's already different. I think also because 617 00:28:12,354 --> 00:28:16,194 Speaker 1: of the big age gap, Like my eldest child now 618 00:28:16,234 --> 00:28:19,594 Speaker 1: given me a grandchild soon to be three, so like 619 00:28:19,634 --> 00:28:22,674 Speaker 1: there's still someone who like loves me and needs me, 620 00:28:22,794 --> 00:28:27,434 Speaker 1: and that part of my parenting muscle is incredibly activated 621 00:28:28,034 --> 00:28:31,994 Speaker 1: by my time with Luna, which softens the blow, and 622 00:28:32,074 --> 00:28:34,674 Speaker 1: in some ways that having a much younger child, like 623 00:28:34,714 --> 00:28:38,034 Speaker 1: when Luca left school, Remy was only nine, so he 624 00:28:38,074 --> 00:28:41,074 Speaker 1: hadn't gone into that teen boy tunnel, so that also 625 00:28:41,194 --> 00:28:45,314 Speaker 1: softened that blow. But no, I feel really excited about 626 00:28:45,434 --> 00:28:49,314 Speaker 1: him leaving school. I also think, yeah, I've done it 627 00:28:49,434 --> 00:28:53,154 Speaker 1: twice since then, you know, so I'm yeah, I'm excited. 628 00:28:53,634 --> 00:28:56,114 Speaker 3: Wow, I love this look. We always end our Word 629 00:28:56,154 --> 00:28:59,394 Speaker 3: of the Year episode feeling very like I'm win and 630 00:28:59,554 --> 00:29:01,394 Speaker 3: positive about the year ahead. 631 00:29:02,154 --> 00:29:04,274 Speaker 4: I think we have a little treat for the Outlauders too, 632 00:29:04,354 --> 00:29:08,514 Speaker 4: which is that we spoke to our other hosts, Yes 633 00:29:08,714 --> 00:29:11,554 Speaker 4: m Vernham and Amelia Lester, and we wanted to know 634 00:29:11,594 --> 00:29:14,554 Speaker 4: what their word of the Year was because out Louders 635 00:29:14,594 --> 00:29:17,594 Speaker 4: have gotten to know them so well. This year, after 636 00:29:17,594 --> 00:29:20,194 Speaker 4: the break, we will hear more of your words out 637 00:29:20,234 --> 00:29:22,274 Speaker 4: loud as if you need some inspiration, then we are 638 00:29:22,394 --> 00:29:25,034 Speaker 4: going to hear what you've chosen, and we are also 639 00:29:25,074 --> 00:29:26,834 Speaker 4: going to hear from m and Amelia. 640 00:29:27,754 --> 00:29:30,474 Speaker 1: My word of the year is woo wu. My word 641 00:29:30,474 --> 00:29:32,954 Speaker 1: of the year is no, not enough No. 642 00:29:33,514 --> 00:29:37,114 Speaker 3: My word for the year in twenty twenty six is simplicity. 643 00:29:37,474 --> 00:29:39,474 Speaker 1: My word of the year is nourish. 644 00:29:39,594 --> 00:29:41,514 Speaker 2: My word for the year is moderation. 645 00:29:43,634 --> 00:29:46,114 Speaker 4: Here is what Amelia Lester said. 646 00:29:46,674 --> 00:29:49,354 Speaker 5: My word of the year is conscious. I want to 647 00:29:49,394 --> 00:29:54,074 Speaker 5: be conscious of moving with intention and with my core 648 00:29:54,194 --> 00:29:56,874 Speaker 5: as opposed to just sort of dragging myself along the street. 649 00:29:57,314 --> 00:29:59,354 Speaker 5: I want to buy a fewer clothes, so I want 650 00:29:59,354 --> 00:30:03,314 Speaker 5: to more consciously consume clothing and everything. 651 00:30:02,914 --> 00:30:04,074 Speaker 1: Else that I buy online. 652 00:30:04,674 --> 00:30:07,554 Speaker 5: And I want to be conscious of enjoying the time 653 00:30:07,634 --> 00:30:10,674 Speaker 5: that I spend with my family and friends, as opposed 654 00:30:10,714 --> 00:30:13,634 Speaker 5: to looking at my phone, thinking about my to do 655 00:30:13,794 --> 00:30:17,114 Speaker 5: list and just generally not being present for them. 656 00:30:17,354 --> 00:30:19,594 Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's multi layered. 657 00:30:19,634 --> 00:30:20,274 Speaker 2: It really is. 658 00:30:20,394 --> 00:30:22,914 Speaker 4: I love it. I also think that Amelia is one 659 00:30:22,954 --> 00:30:24,874 Speaker 4: of the most conscious people. 660 00:30:24,994 --> 00:30:26,554 Speaker 2: I'm like, she's so conscious. 661 00:30:26,794 --> 00:30:29,634 Speaker 4: I worry that she's reached a different level of consciousness 662 00:30:29,714 --> 00:30:30,554 Speaker 4: to the rest of us. 663 00:30:31,554 --> 00:30:33,434 Speaker 2: This year, it could only go further. 664 00:30:34,074 --> 00:30:37,514 Speaker 3: I'm dying to know what my friend m Vernon has picked. 665 00:30:40,274 --> 00:30:43,754 Speaker 3: Emilie Vernon, please tell us what You're worth of the year. 666 00:30:43,714 --> 00:30:47,954 Speaker 6: Is Hello, Happy New Year everyone. I know we've pre 667 00:30:47,954 --> 00:30:51,754 Speaker 6: recorded this, but I guarantee you I am struggling with 668 00:30:51,794 --> 00:30:54,234 Speaker 6: the worst hangover in the world right now. 669 00:30:54,794 --> 00:30:59,594 Speaker 2: But my word of the year is explore. 670 00:31:00,274 --> 00:31:03,754 Speaker 6: And I've chosen this word because I feel like this year, 671 00:31:03,914 --> 00:31:06,714 Speaker 6: I want to get more out of my comfort zone, 672 00:31:07,274 --> 00:31:10,274 Speaker 6: to travel more, I want to do more things. I 673 00:31:10,274 --> 00:31:12,034 Speaker 6: feel like I've kind of been in the rut of 674 00:31:12,114 --> 00:31:14,674 Speaker 6: like the every day of doing the same thing every 675 00:31:14,754 --> 00:31:17,354 Speaker 6: every every day, and I want to explore new things. 676 00:31:17,394 --> 00:31:19,834 Speaker 6: I want to explore myself maybe, and that's not in 677 00:31:19,874 --> 00:31:22,874 Speaker 6: a sexual manner. I mean like kind of like see 678 00:31:22,954 --> 00:31:26,554 Speaker 6: what else I can push myself to do mentally and physically. 679 00:31:27,194 --> 00:31:30,554 Speaker 6: And I feel like this is one that I can 680 00:31:30,594 --> 00:31:34,554 Speaker 6: easily be held accountable for because I think it'll be very, 681 00:31:34,754 --> 00:31:37,874 Speaker 6: very very obvious if I'm just not out doing things. 682 00:31:38,154 --> 00:31:40,954 Speaker 6: But yeah, explore is my word of the year, and 683 00:31:40,994 --> 00:31:43,314 Speaker 6: I do have a feeling I don't know what everyone 684 00:31:43,354 --> 00:31:45,314 Speaker 6: else as well of the year is just as yet, 685 00:31:45,394 --> 00:31:48,474 Speaker 6: but I do feel like mine is the best one. 686 00:31:52,034 --> 00:31:54,754 Speaker 4: As soon as she said the word explore, I thought 687 00:31:54,794 --> 00:31:56,554 Speaker 4: back to an episode we did about it a month 688 00:31:56,594 --> 00:32:00,354 Speaker 4: ago or so where we talked about RFK Junior writing 689 00:32:00,394 --> 00:32:03,474 Speaker 4: poems to Olivia Uzi and one of the sex acts 690 00:32:03,514 --> 00:32:05,994 Speaker 4: that he enjoyed, and I just went and wants to 691 00:32:06,034 --> 00:32:06,514 Speaker 4: explore that. 692 00:32:07,714 --> 00:32:08,874 Speaker 1: She does want to explore it. 693 00:32:09,034 --> 00:32:12,114 Speaker 3: I thought about it we did where we talked about 694 00:32:12,114 --> 00:32:14,954 Speaker 3: what we all did on a Sunday and did absolutely 695 00:32:14,994 --> 00:32:18,074 Speaker 3: nothing all day until nine o'clock when she left the 696 00:32:18,074 --> 00:32:20,674 Speaker 3: house and went on a date and we were just Jesse, 697 00:32:20,874 --> 00:32:22,434 Speaker 3: We were our minds will blow. 698 00:32:22,994 --> 00:32:24,154 Speaker 4: She was even on our phone. 699 00:32:24,194 --> 00:32:26,674 Speaker 3: She was just sitting there nothing all day. And then 700 00:32:26,714 --> 00:32:28,074 Speaker 3: she went and then I got in the shower and 701 00:32:28,074 --> 00:32:28,954 Speaker 3: got ready for my date and. 702 00:32:28,874 --> 00:32:31,194 Speaker 1: We went wow. 703 00:32:31,274 --> 00:32:33,514 Speaker 2: So I just don't to know where she's going to 704 00:32:33,554 --> 00:32:34,194 Speaker 2: explore to it. 705 00:32:34,314 --> 00:32:38,874 Speaker 3: That is twenty six out louders, thank you for being 706 00:32:38,914 --> 00:32:41,474 Speaker 3: here with us for another year. Let's all hold hands 707 00:32:41,474 --> 00:32:48,234 Speaker 3: and make sure that your twenty twenty six is well messy, graceful, graceful. 708 00:32:47,954 --> 00:32:50,634 Speaker 1: And that you enjoy the seasons of your life. There's 709 00:32:50,674 --> 00:32:53,594 Speaker 1: a really good song called Seasons of Love from Rent. 710 00:32:53,754 --> 00:32:54,554 Speaker 1: Should I sing it out? 711 00:32:54,674 --> 00:32:59,434 Speaker 3: No? Oh my god, she's definitely don't know that. Out Louders, 712 00:32:59,514 --> 00:33:01,354 Speaker 3: I'm sure you might hear a few a little bit 713 00:33:01,354 --> 00:33:02,714 Speaker 3: from Mere Friedman through the year. 714 00:33:03,034 --> 00:33:05,314 Speaker 2: In between her Oh no, here she. 715 00:33:05,274 --> 00:33:09,794 Speaker 4: Goes, we'll have some exciting amounts, not because copyright. If 716 00:33:09,834 --> 00:33:11,954 Speaker 4: you need some inspired. 717 00:33:12,514 --> 00:33:14,674 Speaker 1: So much, no one will ever recognize what the song is. 718 00:33:14,914 --> 00:33:17,154 Speaker 3: They will be suing us. They'll be like that sounds 719 00:33:17,194 --> 00:33:19,434 Speaker 3: like can't it could possibly. 720 00:33:19,074 --> 00:33:20,234 Speaker 2: Be no way. 721 00:33:20,634 --> 00:33:22,154 Speaker 4: We are going to put some ideas in the out 722 00:33:22,194 --> 00:33:24,914 Speaker 4: Louders Facebook group and go in there to get some inspiration. 723 00:33:25,074 --> 00:33:26,914 Speaker 4: I love reading what people choosing. 724 00:33:26,674 --> 00:33:28,754 Speaker 1: To share your word. We always love to read them. 725 00:33:28,914 --> 00:33:32,194 Speaker 3: Our team, we are telling you what theirs are as 726 00:33:32,234 --> 00:33:34,714 Speaker 3: we thank them for an amazing year we've had and 727 00:33:34,754 --> 00:33:37,874 Speaker 3: a great year ahead. Group executive producer Ruth de Vine 728 00:33:38,034 --> 00:33:39,794 Speaker 3: her word of the year is adventure. 729 00:33:40,074 --> 00:33:41,674 Speaker 4: Her and em are going to be spending a lot 730 00:33:41,714 --> 00:33:45,994 Speaker 4: of weekends together. Executive producer Sashatanic her word of the 731 00:33:46,074 --> 00:33:47,714 Speaker 4: year is abs fucko lutely. 732 00:33:47,914 --> 00:33:54,914 Speaker 3: I very much enjoy the NOD two Sex in the City. Yes, 733 00:33:55,114 --> 00:33:57,394 Speaker 3: that's otherwise that could mean a year of yes, but 734 00:33:57,474 --> 00:33:59,114 Speaker 3: it's abso fucking lutely. 735 00:33:59,434 --> 00:34:02,194 Speaker 1: Senior audio producer is Leo Porges and her word of 736 00:34:02,234 --> 00:34:05,554 Speaker 1: the year is build. Bit about the builder coming along. 737 00:34:05,634 --> 00:34:06,114 Speaker 4: I like that. 738 00:34:06,234 --> 00:34:09,393 Speaker 3: Video producer Green Here's word of the year is cadence. 739 00:34:09,873 --> 00:34:11,553 Speaker 2: Okay, somebody explains that to me. 740 00:34:11,834 --> 00:34:16,594 Speaker 4: Okay, rhythm, rhythm, I like that. I like that a lot. 741 00:34:16,914 --> 00:34:21,194 Speaker 4: And our junior content producer is Tessa Kotovich. Her word 742 00:34:21,194 --> 00:34:27,794 Speaker 4: of the year is back yourself one way. Yeah, I 743 00:34:27,794 --> 00:34:28,953 Speaker 4: think it runs on. 744 00:34:29,194 --> 00:34:32,834 Speaker 1: We've got hyphens this year, We've got dumble words. It's great. 745 00:34:33,314 --> 00:34:33,913 Speaker 2: I love it. 746 00:34:34,394 --> 00:34:36,794 Speaker 3: Thank you all so much out loud as. Happy Happy 747 00:34:36,874 --> 00:34:38,033 Speaker 3: New Year, Happy New Year. 748 00:34:38,394 --> 00:34:40,674 Speaker 2: We'll be back in your ears any minute now. 749 00:34:40,714 --> 00:34:41,634 Speaker 1: Bye bye. 750 00:34:42,834 --> 00:34:45,434 Speaker 4: And if you're looking for more to listen to, every 751 00:34:45,554 --> 00:34:49,914 Speaker 4: Muma Mia podcast is curating your summer listening right across 752 00:34:49,954 --> 00:34:54,034 Speaker 4: our network. From pop culture to beauty to powerful interviews, 753 00:34:54,234 --> 00:34:57,314 Speaker 4: there's something for everyone. There's a link in our show notes. 754 00:34:57,594 --> 00:35:01,394 Speaker 4: We'll be back to regular programming on Monday, twelfth of January. 755 00:35:04,594 --> 00:35:07,873 Speaker 4: Mama Mayer acknowledges the traditional owners of the on which 756 00:35:07,874 --> 00:35:09,474 Speaker 4: we have recorded this podcast